irclog2html for tuxboxproject on 2001.07.10

00:00:24travis_143cwyeah, that is what i saw off of /.
00:00:38travis_143cwhave you used it?
00:00:47travis_143cwis libcss legal?
00:00:52BZFlagthat's the first free one with menu support that I've seen.
00:01:31travis_143cwcan you buy commercial linux dvd players, that work really good? i.e. menu? chapter select?
00:03:53BZFlagI had a friend over at Caldera with 2 of them. not sure how stable they were
00:04:12BZFlagLinDVD and one other. They were on the beta test list.
00:04:16travis_143cwhmmm. cool
00:04:32travis_143cwhow much does lindvd cost do you know off hand?
00:04:35travis_143cwor about?
00:06:27Slashdot - Updated 2001-07-09 23:59:34 | Slashback: Mono, Names, Locking Up | Canada Post Kills Free Internet-For-Life Program | NASA In Financial Trouble | SCI FI Channel To Produce Dune Sequel
00:06:27travis_143cwibot: slashdot?
00:06:31BZFlagno idea on cost.
00:08:22travis_143cwalright
00:08:28travis_143cwbut i will be back in a little while
00:08:32travis_143cwsomeone just stopped by
00:09:04travis_143cwsee ya guys
00:10:09BZFlagI'm in #ogle now too...
00:10:16travis_143cwhmmm
00:11:53travis_143cwwell i gg
00:11:57travis_143cwsee you in a little bit
01:55:08Snakehello
03:25:25Bakemonowoah
03:25:29Bakemonopeople
03:32:24Bakemonohey
03:32:38travis_143cwhi brb
03:46:45travis_143cw(for whoever is awake) do you guys like the logo on air's site (www.qzx.com/tuxbox)?
03:57:24which one are you using?
03:57:24airwhich one?
03:57:46travis_143cwair, the blue gold one
03:58:10airk
03:58:20travis_143cwhttp://www.qzx.com/tuxbox/_screenshots/tblogo-crashgt-1.png
03:59:00travis_143cwsilverado, i need to talk to you about something...
03:59:02travis_143cwi will msg you
03:59:13silveradosure...
03:59:18airi should be finished with this map tonight so i will start ui tomorrow
04:06:25travis_143cwcool
04:06:30travis_143cwwhat map air?
04:06:40Slashdot - Updated 2001-07-10 02:57:51 | Deciphering Windows Product Activation | Slashback: Mono, Names, Locking Up | Canada Post Kills Free Internet-For-Life Program | NASA In Financial Trouble
04:06:40travis_143cwibot: slashdot?
04:06:57airstargate map for tfc
04:07:06travis_143cwalright cool
04:08:04travis_143cwdone sleeping already?
04:08:52BZFlagheh, decided I had more work I'd better do tonight.
04:08:56travis_143cwlol
04:09:29travis_143cwTim, will you be on at like 1pm (CST)? tomorrow?
04:11:00Snakehello all
04:11:04travis_143cwNZ sucks!!! hahaha snake
04:11:15No luck, travis_143cw
04:11:15travis_143cwibot: insult Snake
04:11:15Snakeno it does not
04:11:26No luck, travis_143cw
04:11:26travis_143cwibot: insult Snake
04:11:27Bakemonohey
04:11:36travis_143cwi am just playin!
04:11:40Snakelol
04:12:07BZFlagtravis_143cw: probably. why?
04:13:21travis_143cwjust in case i need some wireless help if that would be ok with you?
04:13:43BZFlagsure.
04:14:02Snakehey, who is making the outer case for the tuxbox?
04:14:03travis_143cwthank you very much, i need wireless in order to have linux on my laptop
04:14:17travis_143cwSnake: dont know yet, have suggestion? :-)
04:14:22Snakehmmm
04:14:25Snakenot realt
04:14:28Snakenot realy
04:14:32travis_143cwnot realt hey?
04:14:35travis_143cw:-)
04:14:35Bakemonowhen did 0.0.3 of the os come out?
04:14:36silveradoI've started a design....
04:14:39Bakemonoand who did the work?
04:14:44Snakei could go have a look
04:14:44travis_143cwbakemono: last night
04:14:45Snakefor you
04:14:49silverado0.0.3 was ysterday.  and I did it.
04:14:53travis_143cwsnake: yes please
04:14:56Snakek
04:14:57Bakemonocool
04:15:09Snakewhat wouldi search for
04:15:14travis_143cwSilverado is a god!
04:15:17Snakea plastic company?
04:15:21silveradoBut, it'll be updated soon as I'm switching it back to reiser fs.
04:15:29travis_143cwwhy is that?
04:15:33travis_143cwHD issues?
04:15:50silveradoThat and it smokes every other journaling file system in the benchmarks.
04:18:10silveradoAnybody have anything to say on the choice of file systems?
04:19:21Snakefile systems?
04:19:26BakemonoI don't know much about different file systems, so I don't have an opinion
04:19:58travis_143cwsilverado: i think FAT is a good file system!!! JK!!!
04:20:38SnakeFile Alloction Tables
04:20:39Bakemono...
04:20:40Snakeis wondows
04:20:42Snakeisnt it
04:20:46Bakemonoyeah
04:20:51silveradoJournaling file system is a must as it allows 3 second reboots without fsck.
04:21:05travis_143cwthat is good
04:21:15travis_143cwno man, we want fsck.... um no
04:21:43silveradoanybody want to compare the systems?   http://www.namesys.com/benchmarks/benchmark-results.html
04:24:53travis_143cwwhat is the legal status of libcss??
04:26:05Snakeshit i dont know how to compare
04:26:05Snakelol
04:30:02travis_143cwno one wants to answer my libcss question huh?
04:32:09Snakewhat state travis?
04:32:49Snakeyou want metal casin or plastic travis?
04:33:05travis_143cwsnake: whatever looks cool and is cost effecient
04:33:26Snakeok
04:33:42Snakecause im not sure what to search for
04:33:48travis_143cweither
04:33:53travis_143cwoptions are good!
04:33:58Snakeim looking in it american yellowpages for a plastics company
04:34:09Snakewhat state you in?
04:34:29travis_143cwminnesota
04:34:34BZFlagtravis_143cw: libcss is still illegal in the us from what I can find.
04:34:40travis_143cwshit
04:35:02travis_143cwis there a legal linux way to do hardware dvd rendering?
04:35:03Snaketravis: what state do you live in
04:35:22BZFlagtravis_143cw: not that I'm aware of and I'm looking.
04:35:37travis_143cwoh crap
04:35:53travis_143cwthere has got to be a free (software free) way to do dvd
04:35:58SnakeTRAVIS: WHAT STATE ARE YOU IN!!!!????
04:36:05Snakehow many time do i have to ask?
04:36:06BZFlaglooks like either license LinDVD for some unknown ammount or get your own license from MPA for like 100k certification + license fees.
04:36:12travis_143cwSNake: i *still* live in minnesota
04:36:19travis_143cwstop asking :-)
04:36:24BZFlagSnake: a comatose state apparently
04:36:34travis_143cwlol, yep!
04:36:41Snakelol
04:37:03Snakeare you guys still trying to find out how to make the dvd open source?
04:37:16travis_143cwjust legal
04:37:22BZFlagis it an option to ship the device and let the users DL and install a player + libcss from a non-us site?
04:37:31travis_143cwi dont care if that portion were to be closed, as long as we get dvd
04:37:51Snake?
04:38:03Snakewhat do you meen
04:38:06BZFlagor you could even include the player, just have them DL libcss.
04:38:28travis_143cwthat is a good idea
04:38:36travis_143cwso out of box they can play unexcrypted
04:38:45travis_143cwbut if they want libcss they could get it
04:39:05BZFlagit's a grey area if the initial boot were to go to a US site that just redirected to a non-us site and grabbed the required files.
04:39:09Snakewhy dont you cantact a dvd company and ask them
04:39:29BZFlagI'll bet the MPA would still take you to court though, you might win, but the costs would still be there.
04:39:46travis_143cwi dont want that...
04:39:55Snakehmmm
04:40:11Snakegoto the disbutes tribunal
04:40:19Snakeits cheaper the court
04:40:23BZFlagI agree. I'd say put a noncss dvd player on there that would auto use libcss if it were there.
04:40:31Snakeor dont you have that in america
04:40:32travis_143cwBZFlag: i mean, if we were to support "plug ins"
04:40:58travis_143cwSNake: i dont think we have that
04:41:26BZFlagyeah, do vcd, svcd, xvcd, and noncss dvd. let the user get a plugin from non-us to do css dvd.
04:41:57travis_143cwgood call
04:42:01BZFlagsame player might do mpeg1 and opendivx then. ;-)
04:42:17travis_143cwdivx is good!
04:42:25travis_143cwlikes his divx
04:42:26Snakecause in new zealand we have a thing called the disputes tribunal and its for people who can afford court and it costs $30 Nz dollars so that about $14 american
04:42:30BZFlagopendivx is better. ;-)
04:42:40travis_143cwwhat is the difference?
04:42:46BZFlagSnake: nothing like that here that I'm aware of.
04:42:54Snakean you can take a massive company to court for NX$30
04:43:01BZFlagtravis_143cw: opendivx is a GPL rewrite.
04:43:06SnakeNX=
04:43:09SnakeNZ
04:44:26silveradogoodnight....
04:44:51travis_143cwi best go also
04:44:59travis_143cwi tired and have to wake for work in 4 hours....
04:45:36BZFlagtravis_143cw: http://www.projectmayo.com/ <- opendivx
04:47:41Snakeshit i cant find anything
04:47:59Snakeill try find out who made other consoles casing
04:48:44travis_143cwk
04:48:51travis_143cwemail me with any info
04:48:56travis_143cwtravis@tuxboxproject.com
04:49:01travis_143cwlater, i need sleep
04:49:03travis_143cwbye all!
04:49:06Snakebye
04:50:47Snakewait ill go take my playstation apart and have alook who made the casing :)
04:53:26Bakemonomust go now
05:17:35Snakei found out what to make the TUXBOX from
05:17:50SnakeABS plastic is what the playstation console is made from
05:19:42SnakeAcrylonitrile Butadience Stryreneplastic
12:56:49well, snake is cool
12:56:50Snakeibot: snake?
12:56:57Snake: I forgot snake
12:56:57Snakeforget snake
12:57:07Snakesnake is the coolest in the world
12:57:21OK, Snake.
12:57:21Snakeibot: snake is the coolest in the world
12:57:26Snakesnkae?
12:57:32you are the coolest in the world
12:57:32Snakeibot: snake?
12:57:57it has been said that tuxbox is a cool linux console.  For information, go to http://www.tuxboxproject.com/  tuxbox is also the name of travis' stupid ink-bashing excuse for a bot.
12:57:57Snakeibot: tuxbox?
12:58:16i think ink is one badass muthafucka that don't take no shit from nobody!
12:58:16Snakeibot: ink?
12:58:28bugger all, i dunno, snake
12:58:28Snakeibot: travis?
12:58:401 is PC and 11 is iPAQ in my example?
12:58:40Snakeibot: 1?
12:58:48i haven't a clue, snake
12:58:48Snakeibot: 2?
15:13:08I can't find the headlines.
15:13:08travis_143cwibot: slashdot?
15:13:16i haven't a clue, travis_143cw
15:13:16travis_143cwibot: why?
15:13:31Slashdot - Updated 2001-07-10 15:15:30 | Global Warming: Do You Believe? | The Blender Book | Books on Demand | Microsoft and the U.S. School System
15:13:31travis_143cwibot: slashdot?
15:31:38arog:- )
15:31:54salut, travis_143cw
15:31:54travis_143cwhi
15:32:02arog'ello
15:32:17travis_143cwhave you got wireless to work on your laptop yet?
15:32:23aroginfrared?
15:32:26travis_143cwi need to talk to tim riker about this
15:32:32travis_143cwor ryker
15:32:37travis_143cwi forget how to spell
15:32:37travis_143cwit
15:32:43rumour has it i am not as good as tuxbox
15:32:43travis_143cwibot: who are you?
15:32:43arogi haven't tried it yet
15:32:49travis_143cwyeah, i know
15:35:06arogi somehow messed up the nvidia drivers only for my login on my laptop
15:35:22arogand i can't seem to find what's causing the problem
15:35:29arogso i may have to reload  :- (
15:36:28travis_143cwno you wont
15:36:33travis_143cwjust talk to silverado
15:36:55travis_143cwi can almost garentee (i can spell...) that he will be able to hlep you
15:37:01travis_143cwsilverado is very good
15:38:20arogmaybe, but i have been trying for 3 days now
15:38:31arogi removed my directory
15:38:38arogremoved all files associated with my login
15:38:44arogand it still doesn't work
15:41:08arogi am probably going to reload windows 2000, too
15:41:10arogso it's no big deal
15:41:22arogi left the original winme on the laptop
15:41:31arogjust in case i might need it
15:41:46arogbut i haven't used it once in 2 weeks, so i don't think i will ever
15:41:50travis_143cwhmmm
15:42:03travis_143cwjust ask silverado, it will be a learning experience :-)
15:42:07arogand i only have a 10 GB HD
15:42:13travis_143cwyou only got the 10?
15:42:15arogso i could use the space
15:42:30arogyeah, i paid in cash, so i minimized some of the stuff
15:43:00arogi can always install a new hd later
15:43:12arogi skimped on the ram, too 2 64MB DIMMs
15:43:20arogi can upgrade that myself too somewhere down the line
15:43:28arogfor MUCH cheaper than what dell was offering
15:46:56travis_143cwyeah
15:47:12travis_143cwmy dad knows a guy at dell, so he orders all of works laptops through them\
15:47:20travis_143cwso he got a good deal with mine
15:47:30travis_143cwgot the upgraded HD and RAM for free
15:47:47travis_143cwdid you get the dvd or cdrw?
15:55:10arogyou lucky s.o.b.
15:55:13arogi got the cdrw
15:55:25arogi will probably buy the dvd elsewhere later
15:55:40arogi found a store online that has great prices on dell stuff
15:55:46arogplus there's always ebay
15:55:47arog:- 0
15:55:52arog:- )
15:57:59travis_143cwebay....
16:02:51travis_143cwi have a dvd playing under linux!
20:24:39Bakemonohowdy
20:37:14aroghey
20:56:02travis_143cwwhy do i hate windows 2k server so much.....
20:56:14travis_143cwfucking w2k server!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:56:16travis_143cwi hate it
20:56:41travis_143cwi am going to smash that F-ing Compaq running that stupid OS
20:57:17Slashdot - Updated 2001-07-10 21:09:05 | GRAPE6, Now With GNU/Linux Frontend, At 32 TFlops | A Kernel With Everything | MS, CNET On 7-Day Messenger Outage | Using Cell Devices To Monitor Traffic Flow
20:57:17travis_143cwibot: slashdot?
20:59:14Bakemonohowdy
20:59:52travis_143cwhi, i will be back in a little
21:00:03travis_143cwafter i destory a 32,000 dollar server...\
21:00:06travis_143cwi hate it
21:02:19Bakemono...
22:10:10travis_143cwI was just food bitch.... had to run to mcdonalds for everyone and deal with the "all-american" staff that spoke ALOT (sarcastic) of english
22:11:11Slashdot - Updated 2001-07-10 21:09:05 | GRAPE6, Now With GNU/Linux Frontend, At 32 TFlops | A Kernel With Everything | MS, CNET On 7-Day Messenger Outage | Using Cell Devices To Monitor Traffic Flow
22:11:11travis_143cwibot: slashdot?
22:20:46travis_143cwi am so bored
22:21:34airhey
22:21:44travis_143cwhi iar
22:21:45travis_143cwair
22:21:55airi found out i have an iq of 52
22:22:26aircan i still be a member in this project? :)
22:22:34travis_143cwhell yes
22:22:53travis_143cwhave you taken a look at the OS lately?
22:22:59aircant
22:23:03travis_143cw?
22:23:08airdont have an amd cpu
22:23:18travis_143cwi see
22:23:34travis_143cwwe should all be able to build nice protos soon
22:23:41travis_143cwas soon as the crush is released....
22:24:13travis_143cwwe may be even to make the production machines at home soon
22:24:58travis_143cwwhen we all get (make) dev units, developing will be a hell of a lot easier
22:26:46travis_143cwarog, are you available?
22:50:10travis_143cwair: have you worked on the UI at all today?
23:01:54arogtravis?
23:11:24jmdkhello
23:11:40jmdk???
23:13:18Bakemonosup
23:13:53travis_143cwhmmm
23:37:39ink_re
23:57:03travis_143cw: bugger all, i dunno
23:57:03travis_143cwibot: are you my only friend that I can talk to while i am putting in a 24 hour day at work?
23:57:10travis_143cw: i'm not following you...
23:57:10travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:17travis_143cw: sorry...
23:57:17travis_143cwibot: good you little bitch
23:57:23travis_143cw: i'm not following you...
23:57:23travis_143cwibot: thats right
23:57:28travis_143cw: huh?
23:57:28travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:30travis_143cw: what?
23:57:30travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:31travis_143cw: excuse me?
23:57:31travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:33travis_143cw: sorry...
23:57:33travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:39travis_143cw: what?
23:57:39travis_143cwibot: good you little bitch
23:57:41travis_143cw: i'm not following you...
23:57:41travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:42travis_143cw: huh?
23:57:42travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:43travis_143cw: sorry...
23:57:43travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:44travis_143cw: huh?
23:57:44travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:45travis_143cw: excuse me?
23:57:45travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:46travis_143cw: i'm not following you...
23:57:46travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:49travis_143cw: huh?
23:57:49travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:51travis_143cw: huh?
23:57:51travis_143cwibot: fuck you!
23:57:55Sorry, travis_143cw, I'll keep my mouth shut.
23:57:55travis_143cwibot: shut up
23:57:57travis_143cwgood
23:59:00No luck, travis_143cw
23:59:00travis_143cwibot: insult ink|aw
23:59:01travis_143cwyeah!
23:59:05airu were spamming the channel
23:59:09travis_143cwsorry
23:59:26travis_143cwthat was just my agression getting let loose
23:59:33travis_143cwi hate w2k server

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