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| 07:24.28 | coder | Hi. I wonder if I can get from the jMX, via SNMP, the active connections count. I've seen dozens of posts talking about monitoring JVM, which I already do, but I am asking for the number of active sessions via JMX/SNMP. Can't find it. |
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| 08:44.34 | rmannibucau | Hi guys, any tomcat trunk dev here? |
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| 09:01.52 | SparkyFlary | what the difference between geronimo 3 and tomcat ee? |
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| 09:27.01 | rmannibucau | SparkyFlary, G uses tomcat as a library but doesn't care about being compatible with tomcat |
| 09:27.34 | SparkyFlary | which is better for a business? |
| 09:27.44 | rmannibucau | SparkyFlary, the one matching you rneed |
| 09:27.50 | rmannibucau | s/you r/your / |
| 09:29.02 | SparkyFlary | what does geronimo have that tomcat ee doesn't? |
| 09:31.13 | SparkyFlary | I don't which would be best for me they seem the same |
| 09:36.48 | rmannibucau | SparkyFlary, try them |
| 09:36.59 | rmannibucau | personally i'm a tomee committer so i'll say tomee is easier |
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| 10:45.51 | shur | how do sane people deploy a war to an eclipse's tomcat? |
| 10:49.09 | deepy | I copypaste |
| 10:49.15 | deepy | But I'm far from sane |
| 10:53.34 | shur | where do you paste it then, oh unsane gentle person? |
| 10:54.16 | shur | do you paste it in <workspace>/Servers/<Server> ? |
| 10:54.33 | shur | mashing up with tomcat-users.xml and such? |
| 10:55.18 | deepy | in my devenv I just copy it to webapps :-) |
| 10:55.27 | deepy | or let eclipse handle it |
| 10:57.40 | shur | but i have no webapps, just wtpwebapps |
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| 10:59.40 | shur | do you realize my current problem is that a project runs ok in tomcat but no in eclipse's tomcat dontcha |
| 11:00.12 | coder | I havea tomcat serving a .war that works fine without any JAVA_OPTS. If I do apply -Xmx or -XX:MaxPermSize, no matter which values I do set, the app missbehaves (does not do properly the authentication). There's notthing weird on any log. I'm frustrated. |
| 11:00.19 | deepy | How were I supposed to realize that if you don't tell me at the start? |
| 11:01.14 | shur | but i did tell! |
| 11:02.55 | shur | ok did not tell all |
| 11:03.48 | shur | i dont know if i need to deploy any kind of war dependency into the eclipse to run a project that maybe depends on that war |
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| 11:13.00 | deepy | And letting eclipse deploy it for you means it fails? |
| 11:22.14 | shur | i think i will solve it by importing dependencied war |
| 11:22.28 | shur | i tell in some minutes |
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| 14:34.44 | shur | efectively solution was war importing |
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| 16:25.46 | LzrdKing | where are connector names set? i have a pair of tomcats that are calling the http connector "http-bio-8080" and i have no idea where that "bio" part is coming from |
| 16:27.29 | whartung | "calling"? |
| 16:27.51 | LzrdKing | INFO: Starting ProtocolHandler ["http-bio-8080"] |
| 16:27.56 | LzrdKing | also, the nmbeans are similarly named |
| 16:28.00 | LzrdKing | mbeans |
| 16:28.27 | LzrdKing | also, INFO: Starting ProtocolHandler ["ajb-bio-8009"] |
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| 16:29.54 | LzrdKing | jasonb: ltns! |
| 16:29.59 | whartung | its an implicit name |
| 16:30.24 | jasonb | 1tns? What's that? |
| 16:30.34 | whartung | there's BIO (which I assume is Basic IO), NIO, which is the non blocking IO, actually BIO is probabley Blocking IO, and APR which is apache run time |
| 16:30.45 | jasonb | BIO = Blocking I/O |
| 16:30.46 | whartung | so, BIO, NIO, APR |
| 16:31.57 | jasonb | NIO = New I/O, as in the "new" Java IO core functionality, which isn't new anymore.. so now people say Non-blocking IO, though depending on how you write your code it might actually block. |
| 16:32.06 | LzrdKing | jasonb: long time no see |
| 16:32.30 | LzrdKing | whartung: other tomcats call it http-8080, no bio, no quotes |
| 16:32.38 | jasonb | LzrdKing: Ahh. Well, I've been around, lurking, just very busy lately. |
| 16:32.48 | whartung | well I saw this in T7 |
| 16:32.54 | whartung | it may have change |
| 16:33.12 | LzrdKing | yes, i think so |
| 16:33.33 | LzrdKing | 7 has the bio nonsense, 6 does not |
| 16:33.57 | LzrdKing | at least i figured out a way to overload zabbix so whichever one it has gets monitored |
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| 17:02.58 | LzrdKing | "Oracle recommends setting the minimum heap size (-Xms) equal to the maximum heap size (-Xmx) to minimize garbage collections." is Oracle right? |
| 17:04.58 | whartung | if xmx > xms, ,then the heap starts and xms and will grow to xmx via garbage collections. If you "know" you are going to get to xmx eventually anyway, then you may as well make xms == xmx and expand the heap all at once and be done with it |
| 17:05.33 | LzrdKing | i don't know that, but the dev might, but i doubt it |
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| 17:07.00 | whartung | well here's the thing |
| 17:07.25 | whartung | xmx should be set to where the app likes to live. If you allocate more xmx than you need, it's basically wasted memory. |
| 17:08.07 | LzrdKing | i wonder if a page that only exists in google's cache would be an acceptable counter-argument: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jHByRxHvn9sJ:www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss |
| 17:08.47 | whartung | well see here's the thing. |
| 17:09.15 | whartung | when an app starts, it will surge. There's always stuff an app does on startup, no matter what. |
| 17:09.44 | whartung | there's no reason to GC your way up to that base line. That would be a good place to set xms, let the app surge in to it. |
| 17:09.58 | LzrdKing | what brought it up is that he wanted me to raise the max and set the min equal to the max, and i said i'd raise the max but let the JVM manage the rest |
| 17:10.05 | whartung | after that yea, IBM is sorta right. it all depends on how impactfule the GC has on your operations. |
| 17:10.50 | LzrdKing | right |
| 17:14.28 | LzrdKing | well, the page referenced was for JRocket, not HotSpot; maybe i can find something specific to hotspot |
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| 18:20.13 | Dvig | Hello! |
| 18:20.14 | Dvig | On the Debian-60-squeeze-64-LAMP server with Apache Tomcat/6.0.36 we use a linking of Drupal 7 and NeoJS 1.8.2 for a geneology project. |
| 18:20.14 | Dvig | The programmer was gone, and I can't understand that happened to the site (addition of new nodes doesn't work) |
| 18:20.14 | Dvig | In logs I see some errors, but I am not an expert in Tomcat, please help, can they tell us what is the problem? |
| 18:20.14 | Dvig | http://artlogic.md/dev/logs/catalina.2013-04-24.log |
| 18:20.14 | Dvig | http://artlogic.md/dev/logs/localhost.2013-04-24.log |
| 18:20.14 | Dvig | http://artlogic.md/dev/logs/manager.2013-04-24.log |
| 18:28.29 | whartung | what makes you think this is related to tomcat at all and not Drupal/NeoJS, etc. (isn't Drupal a php thing?) |
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| 18:33.16 | Dvig | yes, Drupal is a php CMF. but logs are in Tomcat log folder so thats why. |
| 18:33.51 | Dvig | maybe i am wrong, so tell me please why |
| 18:34.41 | whartung | well my point is that it sounds like you may be having issues with Drupal and NeoJS (whatever that is) but not Tomcat per se. I don't see how Tomcat itself is relevant to your issues at all at this point |
| 18:35.34 | Dvig | thank you, i will try to find help in NeoJS community |
| 18:36.55 | whartung | ok, good luck. |
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