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| 02:11.20 | jasonb | jtal: META-INF/context.xml .. but you can only place <Context> and the tags it contains into that file. |
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| 10:14.25 | topriddy | apparently, my db connection isnt reopened anytime i redeploy/autodeploy my webapp to tomcat. wonder why that may be so? |
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| 11:30.58 | topriddy1 | i am finding that i am losing connections on app redeploy on tomcat. i am using hibernate/listener. is there any setting that can force my connectiosn to stay up or at least reopen on redeploy? |
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| 12:56.46 | wild_oscar | hi. I noticed a warning on a tomcat7 instance when deploying an app about it not finding jasper-jdt.jar |
| 12:57.38 | wild_oscar | and it's not in tomcat's lib by default. I checked a tomcat6 instance and I have that jar in tomcat 6. did it get removed for any particular reason? |
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| 14:23.43 | volodymyr | Hi. Is there some standard approach if I need to produce debug output from custom Valve ? |
| 14:47.29 | volodymyr | TC version is 6.0 |
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| 15:22.53 | danboid | Hi! I've just installed TC7 for the first time under Ubuntu 12.10. Despite having tried numerous settings in tomcat-users.xml and restarting Tomcat, I cannot log into the web admin interface. I get the login but I'm always unauthorised |
| 15:24.40 | danboid | I'm trying to access it using Ubuntu Firefox 18 |
| 15:26.28 | danboid | The unauthorised screen makes no mention of it and neither do the official docs but the Arch Tomcat page says my user needs to be in the tomcat group? Does a dedicated tomcat user need to exist too? |
| 15:28.04 | danboid | I understand its not wise to give any one user all the roles so I'm not done that |
| 15:28.13 | danboid | I've not, sorry |
| 15:29.01 | danboid | I've got the latest Oracle Java installed btw |
| 15:49.13 | topriddy | I was hoping someone might have an idea as regards whether/why my hibernate connection would be lost and wont be reopened in a particular tomcat upon autodeploy? |
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| 16:29.06 | tenobi | Greetings. if I change the keystore that works apache doesn't complain. If I replace the keystore with correct password it complains IOExecption (tomcat6.024, java version "1.6.0_35", centOS 6.3). Any ideas/suggestions? |
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| 16:39.03 | tenobi | * If I change the password on a keystore (that I know works) tomcat does not complain* |
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| 17:26.22 | cl4w | I am not able to successfully access the page from localhost. I've changed the port number by another 5 ports and also deactivated the proxy. TC = 6.0.36 Java 1.6.0_18 = OS = Windows 7. Can anyone help me? |
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| 18:11.49 | Quest | how to run php files on tomcat? is there a module for php? |
| 18:17.22 | whartung | There's http://php.net/manual/en/java.servlet.php |
| 18:17.28 | whartung | (I don't know anything about that) |
| 18:17.42 | whartung | You can call PHP via CGI |
| 18:18.29 | whartung | And there's Quercus, which is Caucho's PHP implementation in Java, I've not used it either. http://php.net/manual/en/java.servlet.php |
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| 18:22.59 | Quest | will that be slow? |
| 18:23.14 | whartung | will what be slow? |
| 18:23.33 | Quest | i mean by cgi |
| 18:24.53 | whartung | CGI is probably the "slowest" way of doing PHP, but I'm not a PHP expert. The Quercus thing is likely the "Fastest" way to do PHP (even potentially over PHP itself). |
| 18:26.00 | Quest | I heard its doable by o JavaBridge.war |
| 18:26.19 | whartung | ok, I don't know anything about that either |
| 18:26.40 | Quest | http://php-java-bridge.sourceforge.net/doc/tomcat6.php |
| 18:27.43 | Quest | whartung, a stackoverflow post says There this PHP/Java bridge. This is basically running PHP via FastCGI. I have not used it myself |
| 18:27.55 | Quest | so FastCGI is not fast enough? |
| 18:28.29 | whartung | FastCGI is much like mod_php, it's just a generic interface. |
| 18:29.06 | whartung | normal CGI invokes (forks) a new copy of the PHP interpreter for each request. |
| 18:29.32 | Quest | so fastcgi is same slow as normal cgi or faster? |
| 18:29.38 | whartung | FastCGI invokes it once for each child process (using Apaches analogy) and maintains a long term connection to the interpreter. |
| 18:30.07 | Quest | hm |
| 18:30.08 | whartung | mod_php effectively "embeds" php in to the Apache web server, but the net result is that the interpreter is invoked once for each child process. |
| 18:30.09 | Quest | so fastcgi is same slow as normal cgi or faster? |
| 18:30.29 | whartung | If FastCGI were slower than CGI, then the name would be a bit of a misnomer, yes? |
| 18:31.06 | Quest | yes. but is ,as the name says, fastcgi really similar in speed as Caucho is |
| 18:31.08 | Quest | ? |
| 18:32.49 | Quest | whartung, or normal php runing on apache |
| 18:32.50 | whartung | Caucho is likely faster simply because they have a better compiler on the back end than PHPs, but some PHP may not run on Caucho -- since it's a port. |
| 18:33.25 | whartung | running php on mod_php offers, if nothing else, the best support since that's how 99% of the planet runs PHO |
| 18:33.27 | whartung | PHP |
| 18:34.29 | Quest | i see |
| 18:35.12 | Quest | dont you think i am good at runing two servers, one tomcat and one apache for php. and both server? |
| 18:35.32 | Quest | both serving at same time for their speciality? |
| 18:36.33 | whartung | We do that -- we run java and PHP fronted by Apache. We actually have all of the PHP in a WAR file that deploys with our main Java app, and on start up it copies all of the PHP stuff to their proper place, but mod_php doesn't know anything about that. This lets us simply deploy to our java server and the entire app is managed with one deploy for us. |
| 18:38.27 | Quest | whartung, which parttern is close to what 99% of people do for runing php? (I think thats installing apache server) so whats closest to that? |
| 18:38.44 | whartung | yea, apache w/mod_php |
| 18:41.06 | Quest | so (as i have started to mixup things) , which things are close to or similar to w/mod_php (which is apache)? |
| 18:41.22 | whartung | with tomcat instead of apache? |
| 18:42.38 | Quest | yes |
| 18:44.13 | whartung | The Quercus thing is as close to the mod_php as you're going to get (it's arguably better). That bridge thing you linked to is more like FastCGI |
| 18:45.09 | Quest | but as you said quercus is not what 99% people do for php. so it can lead to support issues for some php. |
| 18:45.23 | whartung | well 99% of the people don't use java at all |
| 18:45.41 | whartung | so, inroducting java at all tosses you into the 1% category |
| 18:46.15 | whartung | what applications are you running? How performance sensitive are they? |
| 18:47.43 | Quest | that makes me think on why not use both apache httpd and tomcat at the same time and just use proxy to forward non-native requests to the other container/server (what ever the case is) that why i wont have to care about compatibility issues and i would be using tools that are made for respective tasks. and i dont have to worry about performance too? |
| 18:48.04 | whartung | yea, I mean, that's what we do. |
| 18:48.51 | Quest | oh. |
| 18:49.04 | Quest | so thats what you were saying? |
| 18:49.17 | Quest | the mod_ thing is apache httpd? |
| 18:50.17 | Quest | ok. which one should i make the first one on which the user's request hits. tomcat or apache httpd? and what do i need ? (i have setup tomcat already and is wokring fine) ? |
| 18:51.33 | whartung | you would need Apache, mod_jk, mod_php, and tomcat. The requests hit Apache, and apache directs it to either tomcat or php. |
| 18:51.54 | whartung | I don't know the details of the setup, as I didn't do the work. I just know that's what we do -- that level of detail eludes me. |
| 18:52.35 | Quest | sure, and why not do it vice versa? i.e. first hit on tomcat (as i have setup it on port 80 already) and it redirects php requests to apache httpd? |
| 18:53.06 | whartung | because the first way is well supported and documented |
| 18:53.14 | Quest | wont i need mod_proxy_ajp and proxy_fcgi also ? |
| 18:53.15 | Quest | whartung, ok |
| 18:53.38 | whartung | mod_jk replaces mod_proxy_ajp, and mod_php replaces fcgi |
| 18:53.58 | whartung | lots of folks use apache -> tomcat, lots of folks use apache -> php. |
| 18:54.09 | whartung | the fact that you're doing both isn't an issue at all to apache |
| 18:54.12 | Quest | I see |
| 18:54.29 | Quest | whartung, you are a competent person. what experience do you have in this field , if may i ask |
| 18:55.00 | whartung | I've been doing webish java stuff for…um…15-16 years? |
| 18:55.02 | Quest | whartung, a httpd guy told me mod_proxy_ajp replaces mod_jk |
| 18:55.10 | Quest | oh nice! |
| 18:55.27 | whartung | I know we tried that here but we went back, but we're using glass fish as a back end and not tomcat, so it may be related to that. |
| 18:56.02 | whartung | I have "awareness" of these things, I have not configured them myself (at least not in the past 8 years), I have Trained Professionals(™) doing that stuff for me now :) |
| 18:56.42 | Quest | and one says that mod_php is dead |
| 18:57.07 | Quest | i see |
| 18:58.26 | whartung | well, my Trained Professionals(™) chose mod_php, I can't address the discrepancy between your TPs and my TPs :) |
| 18:58.43 | whartung | pretty sure they read the same internet... |
| 18:59.35 | Quest | hm |
| 18:59.45 | Quest | http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM |
| 19:00.44 | Quest | whartung, thanks alot man! |
| 19:00.49 | whartung | sure, good luck |
| 19:02.04 | Quest | thanks again. really needed that |
| 19:02.26 | whartung | ok, hope you can pan some nuggets from the sand... |
| 19:02.55 | Quest | me too:) |
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| 19:05.56 | h16h | is it possible to have tomcat listen on both 80 and 443 (SSL) |
| 19:07.52 | whartung | by default it runs on both 8080 and 8443, so you can simply change those ports and it should work |
| 19:08.32 | h16h | after configuring SSL, and uncommenting out the connector for 8443(now 443 after my change), It is no longer listening on port 8080(or 80 in my case) |
| 19:08.56 | Quest | whartung, do you happen to have seen any good guides that walks me through the thing i want for linux |
| 19:09.31 | whartung | no, Quest I don't know of any. You should probably just approach them separately -- Apache -> tomcat and Apache -> PHP |
| 19:10.01 | Quest | k |
| 19:10.16 | whartung | they're basically virtual directories off of the same host |
| 19:10.43 | Quest | ya. |
| 19:17.10 | h16h | whartung: is there something specific to running two connectors? By default my install was not listening to both 8443 and 8080. I'm running Tomcat 7 |
| 19:17.36 | whartung | I just looked at TC 6, and you would need to uncomment the 8443 connector |
| 19:18.06 | whartung | but a service can have multiple connectors |
| 19:20.09 | h16h | whartung: would you mind taking a quick look: http://pastebin.com/xPff4T2F |
| 19:20.19 | h16h | under those settings, 443 is working fine but no longer listening on port 80 |
| 19:20.33 | larrys | you have 80 commented out... |
| 19:20.42 | whartung | that looks ok to me. Does 80 "start working" if you comment out 443? |
| 19:20.50 | h16h | whartung: yes |
| 19:21.03 | h16h | larrys: the shared thread pool connector is commented out, look at the very first 3 lines |
| 19:21.41 | larrys | I never like having tomcat run as root to bind to port 80 or 443, I front it with apache httpd... and then let apache take care of ssl |
| 19:23.50 | whartung | don't know why that would suddenly fail h16h |
| 19:24.28 | h16h | larrys: i took that into consideration upon my research before implementation but since im really new to unix i opted for the shortcut |
| 19:24.36 | h16h | whartung: thanks for taking a look =) |
| 19:25.12 | h16h | whartung: is there a specific log I should look at that might indicate why the connector failed to start? |
| 19:25.28 | whartung | nah it should all be in catalina.out |
| 19:26.56 | h16h | Caused by: java.net.BindException: Address already in use <null>:80 |
| 19:27.03 | h16h | well that's one step closer =) |
| 19:27.10 | whartung | ah yea |
| 19:27.12 | whartung | that would do it! |
| 19:27.13 | larrys | You have something else running on port 80, probably httpd |
| 19:27.19 | whartung | si |
| 19:27.29 | Quest | http://pastebin.ca/2316067 |
| 19:27.35 | h16h | nmap shows nothing on 80..perhaps something between my restarts of tomcat? |
| 19:27.53 | whartung | Quest: tomcat doesn't come with JSF by default I don't believe |
| 19:28.05 | whartung | just JSP |
| 19:28.16 | Quest | ... thats what i am amazed of |
| 19:28.31 | whartung | it's more part of the tomcat legacy. |
| 19:28.35 | Quest | that was in /var/log/tomcat7$ cat localhost.2013-02-20.log |
| 19:28.49 | whartung | I don't believe jetty does either. |
| 19:28.51 | Quest | the web doesnt shows and stucks on sending request |
| 19:32.12 | h16h | whartung, larrys: fixed. I believe my startup script needs tweaking. In between restarts of tomcat (and modifying the server.xml), I believe tomcat was trying to start before the previous thread closed out all the way |
| 19:32.29 | h16h | i stopped, verified thread was unloaded and then started, all fine. thanks again! |
| 19:32.33 | whartung | yea, that would Be Bad |
| 19:32.37 | whartung | kk gl |
| 19:38.59 | Quest | whartung, i once deleted /webapps/ROOT folder. my war file is ROOT.war I think thats why its not working? . auto deploy is true. java.io.IOException: Unable to create the directory [/home/ubuntu/www/ROOT] |
| 19:39.44 | whartung | well see, it's (apparently) not configured to use the tomcat web apps directory, but rather /home/unbuntu/www/ROOT |
| 19:40.05 | whartung | I can't speak to tomcat installs other than download the tar ball and expanding it. |
| 19:40.19 | whartung | because that's trivial to do and "just works" |
| 19:40.40 | whartung | when the distros go and make tomcat in to "their image" you end up with lots of folks who know nothing about it. |
| 19:40.40 | Quest | whartung, yes. i added /home/unbuntu/www in my server.xml my self |
| 19:40.45 | whartung | oic |
| 19:40.46 | Quest | it was working fine before |
| 19:40.49 | Quest | with same /home/unbuntu/www/ROOT |
| 19:40.57 | whartung | well, check your permissions |
| 19:41.17 | Quest | in what dir? |
| 19:41.38 | Quest | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb 20 19:34 ROOT |
| 19:42.12 | whartung | well, check the permissions tomcat is running under, and the permission of /home/ubuntu/www to make sure tomcat can write there |
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| 19:43.16 | cl4w | I am not able to access the localhost page at my browser. I've tried 5 anothers ports and also deactivated the proxy. TC = 6.0.36 Java 1.6.0_18 = OS = Windows 7. Anyone has a new idea? |
| 19:44.03 | Quest | whartung, drwxrwxr-x 2 ubuntu ubuntu 4096 Feb 18 20:14 www |
| 19:44.19 | Quest | whartung, tomcats is surely started as root |
| 19:44.35 | whartung | ok, just saying it looked like a perm problem |
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| 19:55.09 | Quest | whartung, strange... http://pastebin.ca/2316077 can you see? |
| 19:55.31 | whartung | yea odd |
| 19:55.41 | whartung | I mean it only makes sense if its a perms problem |
| 19:55.47 | whartung | (or a disk space issue -- HA) |
| 19:57.31 | Quest | the site is running fine too now |
| 19:57.56 | Quest | but i do get the errors though. and the ROOT dir is empty / or is not reflecting my ROOT.war |
| 19:58.21 | Quest | whartung, as you told yesterday. its has not unpacked all files. but in cache |
| 19:58.51 | whartung | yea weird |
| 19:59.03 | whartung | I have to run off, biab |
| 19:59.49 | Quest | sure. thanks |
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