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06:38.57ChanSavrhi
06:39.09ChanSavrhaving problems debugging this
06:39.29ChanSavrwhen trying to start a webapp in the manager this is the error I get:
06:39.49ChanSavrFAIL - Application at context path / could not be started
06:39.49ChanSavrFAIL - Encountered exception org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: An invalid Lifecycle transition was attempted ([after_stop]) for component [org.apache.catalina.startup.FailedContext@7fb6634c] in state [FAILED]
06:40.34ChanSavrnothing shows up in catalina.out
06:44.33ChanSavrhmmm... actually nothing showed up when trying to start the app but restarting tomcat shows the error
06:53.27ChanSavrtake this to be the error:
06:53.27ChanSavrCaused by: org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: Failed to process either the global, per-host or context-specific context.xml file therefore the [] Context cannot be started.
06:53.28ChanSavr<PROTECTED>
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07:01.46ChanSavrok... fixed the error. webapp started but I get a 404 error accessing it
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18:13.22*** topic/#tomcat by jasonb -> Stable versions: 7.0.35, 6.0.36, and (EOL'd) 5.5.36. Newbies use the official binary from tomcat.apache.org, an RPM from http://code.google.com/p/webdroid-tomcat-package , or the latest tomcat deb. Check logs before asking a question. SLOW MOTION CHANNEL: Ask your question including your TC, Java, & OS versions, then wait; check back for answers.
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19:27.02Einzig_CENTOS 6, Tomcat 7, jdk 7: trying to run sample app from the apache website on a vps. never worked. ss -nap shows LISTEN     0      0                        :::8009                    :::*      users:(("java",21632,41))
19:27.06Einzig_LISTEN     2      0                        :::8080                    :::*      users:(("java",21632,40))
19:27.39Einzig_the website I am trying to run it on is gedachtegaal.nl but all it does is time out
19:28.25Einzig_same with errr's simple tomcat tutorial :)
19:29.27Einzig_I see 3 processes invoked:
19:29.32Einzig_CLOSE-WAIT 314    0                                  ::ffff:85.214.67.217:8080                               ::ffff:83.117.26.74:53414
19:29.35Einzig_ESTAB      313    0                                  ::ffff:85.214.67.217:8080                               ::ffff:83.117.26.74:53442
19:29.42Einzig_CLOSE-WAIT 314    0                                  ::ffff:85.214.67.217:8080                               ::ffff:83.117.26.74:53114
19:29.52Einzig_What could be the issue?
19:31.46whartungyou still fighting this thing Einzig_ ? I'm so sorry to hear that
19:32.16Einzig_yes, no progress so far.
19:32.37whartung:(
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21:16.58Einzig_errr: Do you have any more ideas? Someone?
21:29.20whartungare you using the native APR stuff with Tomcat or the pure java stack? Einzig_
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21:30.12orudiegreets. Where is heap size configured for tomcat?
21:30.38whartungJAVA_OPTS env var before invoking catalina.sh
21:34.25orudiewhartung, so its configured in catalina.sh ?
21:34.37whartungit can be, sure
21:35.25orudiestartup.sh ?
21:35.42whartungthat simply invokes catalina.sh, but you can set it there as well
21:51.55occupwntor you could be running a distro-packaged version of tomcat that doesn't even have these files
21:52.27whartungwell then I can't help you.
21:52.54orudiewhartung, hmm. Looking at a tomcat installation here, and I am not seeing anything that starts with -Xms or Xmx
21:52.59orudiewhartung, what is the default ?
21:53.12orudiewhartung, running RHEL5
21:53.16whartungTHere's no magic here. Tomcat is started like every other java program on the planet "java -ARGS some.apache.tomat"
21:53.27occupwntdid you install from RPMs or a tarball?
21:53.28whartungthe default is just generic java default
21:53.43orudieI didn't install, its a customer site
21:53.45whartungI always use the tarball
21:54.02occupwntif it's using the RHEL packages, everything is in a completely non-standard location compared to a stock tomcat install
21:54.10whartungthat's why I use the tarball
21:54.12whartung:)
21:54.28orudiewell i can get ti startup.sh and catalina.sh
21:54.46orudiejust can't see the -Xmx or Xms parameters anywhere
21:54.47whartungbut likely there is a script that starts tomcat on startup in init.d or systemd or however red hat starts nowadays
21:55.10whartungI don't think tomcat specifies any by default, it runs fine in the java defaults
21:55.11orudiewhartung, yes I can get to the custom startup script, its not there either
21:56.03occupwntI don't know about 5, but for 6, your options are in /etc/sysconfig/tomcat6
21:56.11occupwntRHEL 5/6, that is
21:56.25orudieits a custom installation
21:56.34orudiethe tomcat6 folder was copied into a user's home dr
21:56.46orudieand there is a script that invokes startup.sh
21:57.24whartungyea, there's no Xmx default for tomcat
21:57.41whartungyou set those in the JAVA_OPTS varaible
21:58.15whartungactually they suggest CATALINA_OPTS
21:58.31whartunghttp://d.pr/n/4wiS
22:00.40Einzig_whartung: I am using the default tomcat untarred archive. Not sure if that is enabled by default.
22:00.49whartungyea I don't think it is
22:02.49Einzig_I was thinking that maybe I have some process still alive in a lost screen session, but I guess that would show up when using netcat
22:03.02whartungyea and tomcat would whine also
22:03.07Einzig_netstat even
22:03.08Einzig_ok
22:04.13whartungI mea, so this is what you've tried, right? Download tarball, tar xvf tomcat.tar; cd tomcat; bin/startup.sh; wget http://localhost:8080
22:04.15whartungand that fails?
22:05.03whartung(and if you take that literally rather than figuratively I'll beat you :) )
22:13.02Einzig_yes, wget tarball, unpack, add sample to webapps dir and bin/startup
22:15.23whartungcan you do it without adding the sample webapps?
22:15.40whartungjust straight out of the tarball
22:19.31Einzig_you mean just run the startup script to get the welcome screen?
22:19.37whartungyea
22:20.36whartunglets see if the basics work, right?
22:24.42Einzig_The shutdown script hangs, I kill the processes manually and now the ports aren't listening when using the startup script.
22:25.07Einzig_This reocurring problem seems part of the underlying issue.
22:25.10orudiehmm
22:25.20orudiei think I found where the heap size is configured in this env
22:25.38LzrdKingit happens, tomcat will close the shutdown port, but the process still runs, so it can;t respond to shutdown anymore
22:25.59whartungyea, but he's got some fundamental networking stuff going wrong here.
22:26.13whartungso, make sure all of the java processes are dead
22:26.19Einzig_I do every time.
22:26.25whartungbut out of the tar ball, it should Just Work
22:26.35Einzig_I know. never had this before
22:26.36whartungand I know you were able to get my crude example work
22:26.54whartungbut it could be a dns thing or who knows what.
22:26.57Einzig_Sometimes after a while the ports will listen again
22:27.01whartungThis is why I have a NetOps team :)
22:27.05Einzig_heh
22:28.55Einzig_LzrdKing: http://pastebin.com/gE9isKKY this is the error I sometimes get when running the shutdown command. The times it is not hanging. Never does it close the program normally though.
22:29.24whartungis that norwegian??
22:29.38whartung"verging weirds language"
22:29.44whartungverbing...
22:29.46Einzig_Dutch
22:29.51Einzig_connection is refused
22:29.55whartungok
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22:31.54Einzig_I guess normal when they were not listening in the first place.
22:33.29Einzig_actually the main issue is that I can't get them to listen. as if there is a process that first needs to timeout
22:33.56whartungtry changing the tomcat port
22:34.00whartungI doubt that's it
22:34.00Einzig_after a day or so (of pulling out hair) it happily complies
22:34.01Einzig_:D
22:34.02whartungbut, wth
22:36.08orudieguys, JAVE_OPTS -Xms1g -Xmx10g
22:36.21whartungthat's a lot of tomcat
22:36.23orudie-Xms is the minimum heap size, and -Xmx is the max ?
22:36.29whartungyes
22:36.32orudiethanks
22:36.57whartungJAVA_OPTS="-Xms1g -Xmx10g"
22:38.13orudieyeah, a client has 6 boxes where tomcats are configured like that
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22:39.36whartunga range of 1g to 10g is too broad imho
22:40.02orudiethey set it in setenv.sh
22:40.12whartungit's still too big :)
22:40.16orudieheh
22:40.21orudiethe range ?
22:40.22whartung"Gee, our heap might be 1g or up to 10g"
22:40.23whartungyea
22:40.27whartung"what, you don't know?"
22:40.32orudieheh
22:40.33orudiewell
22:40.44orudieits working, its a huge site
22:40.48whartungsure
22:41.13whartungbut after 5m of uptime if it's at, say, 5g then why not start out with 5g? Why GC your way up to it?
22:41.27WYZ4RDGood Day, I'm hoping someone can help me. I don't know much about Tomcat. I'm running it to run an application "out of the box". For some reason when I terminate a root ssh session, It stops the application (and Tomcat I presume). This seems like an elementary issue, anyone know?
22:41.28whartungand if after a day of operation it's STILL at 5g, why go to 10?
22:41.40LzrdKinguse the heap autotuning parameters
22:42.14whartungI dunno is startup.sh isolated the process from HUP or not
22:42.30whartungprobably not
22:43.07WYZ4RDI don't think so. Its a fairly virgin server I built on rackspace
22:44.45WYZ4RDIts not production, I have been rebooting to exit the session each time. Though that is rather clumbsy
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23:44.38jasonbWYZ4RD: That's one of the things that my Tomcat RPM does for you.

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