| 00:02.13 | scribe | LeoAtWork, thanks. I've tried. It never let's me select my tomcat configuration. The apply and run buttons are grayed out. It's like it doesn't think my project is a web application. Just silly. Each time I "Import an existing project" that is a webapp, this happens to me. I usually end up creating a fresh new web app in eclipse and then copy all my files to the new project. It sucks. I know I'm doing something wrong, but can't figure |
| 00:02.13 | scribe | out what. |
| 00:03.21 | LeoAtWork | Check your build path in your project configurations. You might have unbound variables. |
| 00:07.20 | LeoAtWork | You should never do what you are doing to make your workspace work. |
| 00:07.23 | scribe | Thanks LeoAtWork. From there I found Project Facets |
| 00:07.55 | scribe | I am comparing my newly imported project with a web application that works |
| 00:08.09 | scribe | there are differences and one is "Dynamic Web Application" |
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| 00:09.44 | LeoAtWork | You need this one. |
| 00:09.54 | LeoAtWork | I only use Dynamic Web Application and Java. |
| 00:10.35 | scribe | It's odd that it won't even show up in the list if I have in "Target Runtimes" both Apache Tomcat and Java |
| 00:10.48 | scribe | If I uncheck Java then Dymamic Web Application shows up. |
| 00:10.56 | scribe | This is promising. |
| 00:11.03 | scribe | Thank you for your patience and suggestion. |
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| 00:24.00 | scribe | LeoAtWork, I think I might have it. Beware, Dynamic Web Module defaults to 3.0 (I didn't notice the version in there or that you could change it), tomcat 6 doesn't support 3.0 and apparently eclipse can't 'downgrade' the version (or so error messages keep telling me when I try to pick 2.5) |
| 00:24.40 | scribe | but I just svn reverted my .project file and hopeful can pay attention to change the version to 2.5 before hitting Apply. |
| 00:26.53 | LeoAtWork | scribe: Mine is 2.4 in eclipse helios. |
| 00:27.04 | LeoAtWork | I never had this problem. |
| 00:31.38 | scribe | LeoAtWork, I never tried to manually add the dynamic web module to my project before. It's my fault for not paying attention to the version number when I added it (checked the box). |
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| 06:50.19 | caverdude | Hello |
| 06:51.07 | jasonb | Hi caverdude. |
| 06:52.01 | caverdude | I am using tomcat 5, debian 6, sdk 6.. I tried to setup and run 2 applets and a webstart application on my web site... but I tried to run the applets in FireFox, Chrome, Opera and IE.. they didn't run, but they did run for some irc users and not for others who tested the page for me.. |
| 06:52.20 | caverdude | the webstart app didn't work but it may have other problems |
| 06:52.37 | caverdude | someone suggested I may need to cofigure mime types on my web server? |
| 06:52.40 | caverdude | does that sound logical? |
| 06:53.05 | caverdude | also the applets work fine in the applet viewer |
| 06:53.26 | caverdude | firefox didn't seem to know what to do with the jnlp file |
| 06:56.33 | caverdude | jasonb, no idea? |
| 06:56.51 | caverdude | anyway I'm going to look into the mime type configurations for tomcat |
| 06:58.04 | jasonb | Applets are pretty much dead. You'll have serious trouble with them, regardless of how much time you spend on them. |
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| 06:58.56 | caverdude | well, its just one of the deployment mechanisms we are working on |
| 06:58.59 | jasonb | JavaWebStart is better, but it's still not easy to get it working the way you'd like it to work. |
| 06:59.09 | caverdude | ya |
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| 07:50.07 | oorza | Hello there, I'm trying to play with embedding tomcat in my application as an alternative to Jetty; I'm using 7.0.0 (tomcat) and was wondering if anyone could help me with what I'm doing. With Jetty, I was able to parse the request manually and forward the relevant information to classes that didn't implement the servlet interfaces and I'd like not to have to do that in order to use tomcat instead. I've been reading the API JavaDocs for the new API but |
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| 08:01.18 | jasonb | oorza: The Tomcat 7 source tree has lots of unit tests that serve as code examples of embedding Tomcat. You might want to start there.. or by looking at the javadocs for the Embedded class. |
| 08:01.36 | oorza | jasonb, the Embedded class is depracated in 7 :\ |
| 08:01.44 | oorza | will look at the tests, though, thanks |
| 08:03.16 | jasonb | oorza: Ahh, yes, right.. Use the Tomcat class in Tomcat 7, sorry. |
| 08:07.22 | oorza | jasonb, are you familiar with embedding Tomcat at all? |
| 08:07.43 | oorza | I'm brickwalling now at setting a custom executor service to process requests :| |
| 08:09.46 | jasonb | oorza: Yes, I've embedded various versions of Tomcat. But, everyone wants to do something different with that. |
| 08:10.55 | oorza | Well, I've got custom configuration that dictates the number of web request processing threads (core/max core/overflow queue size) that hides the implementation from the consumer, any suggestions on how I'd accomplish something seemingly this simple? |
| 08:11.46 | oorza | It lookslike what I wanted is Tomcat.getService()... Service.addExecutor() after clearing the old ones, but I don't want have to manually implement all of LifeCycle when there should be an easier way to do this? |
| 08:12.47 | jasonb | oorza: Two things: 1) There's a book that clearly documents the container system, showing some very useful diagrams that would help you right now.. it's called Tomcat 6 Developer's Guide, by Packt. 2) Yes, you're right about doing Service.addExecutor().. that's probably what you want, and then you can set the threading limits. |
| 08:14.09 | oorza | Book doesn't help me at 3 AM on a Sunday, but I'll look into getting it (or wait until the book is updated for 7, more realistically). Why aren't there any known implemetnations of tomcat's Executor interface? What does it usually use, a hidden class? |
| 08:14.09 | jasonb | oorza: About the lifecycle code, you could copy & paste that from one of the Tomcat components, into your own executor impl. |
| 08:14.16 | oorza | If I could find one! |
| 08:14.45 | jasonb | Well, hang on and I'll tell you which class it uses. :) |
| 08:15.13 | jasonb | StandardThreadExecutor |
| 08:15.21 | oorza | And it looks like there are several pool of Executors that Service uses; how does it decide what request uses what Executor? |
| 08:15.27 | jasonb | java/org/apache/catalina/core/StandardThreadExecutor.java |
| 08:15.46 | jasonb | It's whatever executor the Connector is configured to use. |
| 08:16.24 | jasonb | Executors can be shared between Connectors. So, they are set in the Service, and then connectors can reference / use them. |
| 08:16.44 | oorza | So to filter all requests through my one Executor, I have to get the service; will it by default have Connectors and Executors attached to it (and if so, will anything break if I clear them or is there a way to change that behavior so none are enabled by default)? |
| 08:17.01 | jasonb | The book should actually help you at 3 AM on a Sunday since you can buy it in digital form. |
| 08:17.17 | jasonb | Also, the container system structure didn't change from 6.0.x to 7.0.x. |
| 08:17.28 | oorza | Not if I wait until later this week and make work pay for it for me :) |
| 08:19.11 | oorza | I'll just shelve this project until I can get that book, it's hardly a pressing issue, but thanks for your help. |
| 08:19.25 | jasonb | I'm not sure what the Tomcat class configures by default as far as Executors and Connectors. You can always stop & remove connectors, so you can get rid of or pause them. Should be the same with Executors.. |
| 08:19.28 | jasonb | You're welcome. |
| 08:20.02 | oorza | To be fair to Jetty, it was much easier; the entire Jetty embed logic was like 50 SLoC :X |
| 08:20.52 | jasonb | Yes, embedding tends to still be easier with Jetty, sadly.. But I think that is mainly due to lack of decent Tomcat docs and examples for doing it.. |
| 08:22.51 | oorza | Tell me about it; I hate coming to IRC for support (no offense, but it's generally more counterintuitive than anything else) and this is/was my last ditch effort at getting this done tonight :\ |
| 08:24.39 | jasonb | I hope I helped make IRC a little more useful. :) |
| 08:25.21 | jasonb | Really, though, you were on the right track with it.. you just needed to make something like StandardThreadExecutor. |
| 08:26.42 | oorza | And then configure tomcat to parse URLs according to some simple rules (that I should/could actually pull out into a separate class) and call some methods based on the parsing. |
| 08:26.52 | oorza | It really doesn't have to do very much. |
| 08:30.06 | jasonb | That's really what having a nice, scalable servlet container implementation is about: you want it to handle the web requests for you, all the way up to the point where you need to do just your very small piece of code. The rest is mainly a web server and you don't want to have to keep writing your own. |
| 08:31.03 | oorza | yeah |
| 08:31.57 | oorza | This is just slapping a web interface onto things so you can get an easy peak of current running state of a process that has to run for weeks / months at a time and it's really nice not having to rewrite the entire application to fit into a war or require a ton of work :) |
| 08:35.26 | jasonb | Yup. You can even write your web interface to work the same across both Tomcat and Jetty if you want. |
| 08:36.43 | oorza | Yeah, I know, that's what I'm trying to do :) |
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| 14:53.26 | DrPoO | in tomcat 6 is there a way of changing the root path of an application while its deployed? |
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| 17:12.05 | DrPoO | in tomcat 6 is there a way of changing the root path of an application while its deployed? |
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| 17:14.49 | jasonb | DrPoO: Why would you want to? |
| 17:15.27 | DrPoO | jasonb, because I want to simplify the URL to the application |
| 17:15.58 | DrPoO | jasonb, I could also simply re-deploy the war but I dont know what I need to change to make the root path simpler |
| 17:17.07 | jasonb | Often it is just: change the name of the war file. Or, if you've specified a URI path in one of the Tomcat configs, change it in there. |
| 17:17.43 | DrPoO | there's no xml file in the WAR that holds that config? |
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| 17:22.41 | jasonb | DrPoO: Sometimes there's a META-INF/context.xml file. But, not usually. |
| 17:23.19 | DrPoO | in any case does changing the name of the war file override the context.xml file? |
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| 18:17.21 | jasonb | CharlieSu: databags aren't actually part of Tomcat. |
| 18:18.58 | CharlieSu | jasonb: wrong window.. sry |
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