| 00:18.31 | puff | Evening. |
| 00:19.09 | puff | jasonb: So, I asked before, never got an answer, is the dreaded bookmarked-login-form issue still there, or is there a fix for it either in the spec or in tomcat? |
| 00:20.03 | jasonb | puff: Evening. :) |
| 00:20.54 | jasonb | puff: I'm not remembering the issue you're referring to. If there was ever an issue with that, it could have been solved back then even.. whenever that was. There is no such issue now, as far as I know. |
| 00:26.39 | puff | jasonb: The problem was that the way security realms were implemented, you were supposed to request a protected asset, be redirected to a login form, then redirected back to the asset. |
| 00:27.13 | puff | jasonb: However, users have this bad habit of bookmarking the login form URL. SecurityFilter and AceCGI were popular fixes for tis. |
| 00:27.44 | puff | jasonb: I'm just wonderin if it's still an issue. |
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| 01:34.32 | puff | jasonb: Yeah, I used prototype a bit, got fed up wtih it and wrote my own javascript from scratch. I hate javascript :-). |
| 01:35.03 | puff | jasonb: I think that's just the scars from my early encounters with it, though, back when it was far more insane. I keep hearing good things about it today; I should force myself to overcome my phobia of it. |
| 01:35.16 | enduser000 | can anyone tell me where to put some test jsp files to test out tomcat? (the examples work) |
| 01:35.19 | puff | JQuery looks worth learnig, too. |
| 01:35.26 | puff | enduser000: you basically put them under a webapp. |
| 01:35.35 | puff | enduser000: Are you familiar with apache httpd? |
| 01:35.48 | enduser000 | puff: where is the default dir for that? |
| 01:35.52 | enduser000 | yeah, I'm running apache2 |
| 01:35.56 | puff | enduser000: Doesn't quite work like that. |
| 01:36.04 | puff | enduser000: In apache, you have a separate htdocs for each domain you're hosting. |
| 01:36.16 | enduser000 | okay |
| 01:36.19 | puff | enduser000: In tomcat, you have a separate tomcat/webapps/mywebappname directory for each webapp. |
| 01:36.29 | enduser000 | okay |
| 01:36.53 | puff | enduser000: So, basically you need to set up a webapp for your work. |
| 01:36.58 | enduser000 | so, what do I do to make a new one and test it out? |
| 01:37.01 | puff | enduser000: Or re-use one, maybe the examples webapp. |
| 01:37.11 | puff | enduser000: One sec. |
| 01:37.31 | enduser000 | also, what's all this about servlets? can't I just write jsp files with some java code in <% %> tags |
| 01:38.24 | puff | enduser000: I'd suggest you may want to read this: http://darksleep.com/notablog/articles/Java_Web_Applications_0 |
| 01:38.34 | puff | enduser000: I explain web apps a bi thtere. |
| 01:38.51 | puff | enduser000: Basically, a) this isn't really a tomcat question, more of a general java/servlets/jsp quesiton |
| 01:38.59 | puff | enduser000: and b) a JSP is compiled to a servlet. |
| 01:39.50 | puff | enduser000: Basically, if you grab a random foo.html file and rename it foo.jsp, and stick it in a tomcat webapp directory, it will be converted into a servlet with a bunch of print statements. |
| 01:41.00 | enduser000 | okay |
| 01:41.53 | enduser000 | I'm just looking for the smallest amount of info I need to start writing some java code to display info on a page, save cookies, write stuff to databases, and use post/get variables |
| 01:42.03 | puff | enduser000: Well, that link is a good start. |
| 01:42.15 | puff | enduser000: I wrote it for that purpose. |
| 01:42.29 | enduser000 | puff: okay, thanks. I'll give it a look |
| 01:42.34 | puff | enduser000: But there's a lot of conceptual stuff that is not really that complicated, but not knowing it kinda trips you up. |
| 01:42.41 | puff | enduser000: Not really "a lot", just... |
| 01:42.55 | puff | enduser000: Also, what's your purpose? |
| 01:43.12 | enduser000 | a cs course, we have a make a cheap ebay imitation |
| 01:43.27 | enduser000 | I've done php, xhtml, css, mysql |
| 01:43.30 | puff | enduser000: Not that I want to discourage you from learning java, servlets, using tomcat, all of which are a great idea, but if you don't actually need it... |
| 01:43.35 | enduser000 | so I need to learn ajax and jsp |
| 01:43.36 | puff | Ah, that will help, then. |
| 01:43.44 | puff | Did the instructure say you *need* to use java? |
| 01:43.55 | enduser000 | yeah |
| 01:44.08 | puff | tellya what, let's pop over to #jsp, this isn't really appropriate for #tomcat. |
| 01:44.15 | enduser000 | thanks ^^ |
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| 01:51.07 | jasonb | puff: jQuery seems to be the best thought out generic Javascript "helper library"/framework library, and also has the most supporting code, it seems. So, it appears to be about the most helpful. Prototype is pretty good as well, but not as much supporting code, and doesn't look quite as flexible (although it is significantly smaller!) |
| 01:52.38 | jasonb | puff: Javascript itself is pretty weird, from the perspective of a Java developer. But, one can get used to it. The way I think about it is: it's the native way to program a browser, and I'm not sure I can really live without knowing how to do that. :) |
| 02:18.32 | puff | jasonb: Yeah, well I still have POW flashbacks to 1996 and trying to get fiunky javascripts to run on nine different rowsers. |
| 02:19.07 | puff | jasonb: Does tomcat's default install with the new debian/ubuntu packages include JDBCconfiguration? |
| 02:22.51 | jasonb | puff: I'm not sure what question you're asking there. |
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| 02:54.23 | puff | Hey. |
| 02:54.25 | puff | b |
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| 03:02.24 | puff | jasonb: I guess I'm asking if you still need to configure DBCP by hand or if it's configured by default. |
| 03:02.40 | puff | jasonb: But I guess that question does'nt make any sense. |
| 03:02.55 | puff | jasonb: Because you still have to tell it what databsae name, usernamre, password. |
| 03:05.55 | jasonb | puff: Yup yup.. you've got it now.. :) |
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| 04:34.27 | DustD420 | sup pps |
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| 06:08.58 | DustD420 | frobozel |
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| 09:17.53 | durre | hey! I'm trying out "hot deploy" with Tomcat and Eclipse. it's working but each time I change a class the whole app gets restarted and the session is lost. is that's the way its supposed to work? I dont know what to expect :) |
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| 11:16.02 | dvayanu | durre: yes, this is the way its supposed to work |
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| 15:48.52 | TingOo | Hii Room !! |
| 15:49.09 | DustD420 | hi |
| 15:55.39 | TingOo | back...sorry i was away |
| 15:55.41 | TingOo | ok |
| 15:55.52 | TingOo | i followed this tutorial for setting up tomcat + Apache |
| 15:55.54 | TingOo | http://www.mogilowski.net/lang/de-de/2008/11/24/install-tomcat-6-on-debian-lenny-with-virtual-hosts-and-apache2-integration/ |
| 15:56.22 | TingOo | but.. |
| 15:56.38 | TingOo | http://IP address..../test.jsp |
| 15:57.22 | TingOo | except showing test.jsp page.. it is showing "HTTP status 404" |
| 15:57.56 | TingOo | let me know that where i did mistake.. |
| 16:00.19 | TingOo | DustD420 .. ? |
| 16:00.58 | TingOo | Tomcat 6.0.24......Java-Sun..... Debian Lenny |
| 16:07.34 | DustD420 | hrmm |
| 16:11.06 | DustD420 | does it work with localhost? |
| 16:11.19 | TingOo | oh hi thanks for reply.. |
| 16:11.24 | TingOo | 1 min i check from local host |
| 16:14.41 | DustD420 | what does the sdout log say? |
| 16:15.04 | TingOo | nop |
| 16:15.13 | TingOo | same HTTP Status 404 .. |
| 16:15.25 | TingOo | sdout log.. which apache or tomcat ? |
| 16:15.31 | DustD420 | tomcat |
| 16:15.35 | TingOo | which log file should i check.. |
| 16:15.41 | DustD420 | tomcat/logs |
| 16:15.44 | DustD420 | sdtout |
| 16:16.36 | DustD420 | your servlet would not load... most likely |
| 16:17.00 | TingOo | here in /opt/tomcat/logs folder there few log files.. |
| 16:17.27 | DustD420 | send me them |
| 16:17.31 | TingOo | caterlina.out |
| 16:17.57 | TingOo | catalina.2010-02-23.log host-manager.2010-02-23.log manager.2010-02-23.log |
| 16:18.07 | TingOo | catalina.out localhost.2010-02-23.log |
| 16:18.28 | DustD420 | compress the logs and send them dcc to e |
| 16:18.29 | DustD420 | me |
| 16:18.34 | TingOo | ok |
| 16:18.36 | TingOo | 1 min |
| 16:19.52 | TingOo | till then .. |
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| 16:27.47 | mdasilva | hello |
| 16:28.38 | DustD420 | hi |
| 16:28.51 | mdasilva | can anyone confirm that tomcat has trouble connecting to hidden window shares (the auto generated drive shares that end with a '$')? |
| 16:29.16 | DustD420 | nope |
| 16:29.24 | DustD420 | i can neither confirm or deny |
| 16:30.52 | asyd | tomcat connecting to cifs share?how? |
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| 17:20.02 | asyd | ll |
| 17:20.05 | asyd | oups |
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| 17:42.32 | tomtomfromparis | is there some body for help me ? |
| 17:44.07 | tomtomfromparis | os x 10.6.2 tomcat 6.0.24 java 1.6.0 |
| 17:46.00 | tomtomfromparis | when i use my url: http://localhost:8080/EFREI/img/olympics10.png i get as answere HTTP 404 |
| 17:46.01 | tomtomfromparis | type Rapport d'état |
| 17:46.02 | tomtomfromparis | message /EFREI/img/index.jsp |
| 17:46.02 | tomtomfromparis | description La ressource demandée (/EFREI/img/index.jsp) n'est pas disponible. |
| 17:47.06 | tomtomfromparis | description the ressource asked /EFREI/img/index.jsp) isn't available |
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| 17:48.57 | tomtomfromparis | and i don't understand why tomcat look for index.jsp in the folder img between look for the png files |
| 17:49.03 | tomtomfromparis | thanks for your futur help |
| 17:49.50 | fzzzt | Is there a way I can get the URL or host typed into the browser when my app is proxied through apache? getServerName doesn't do it... |
| 17:50.29 | fzzzt | hmm i guess that's more of a servlet Q though |
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| 18:23.01 | jasonb | fzzzt: It should be in the "Host" HTTP header. |
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| 19:15.02 | TingOo | Hii Room !! |
| 19:15.04 | TingOo | any one ? |
| 19:15.23 | TingOo | i followed this tutorial |
| 19:15.23 | TingOo | http://www.mogilowski.net/lang/de-de/2008/11/24/install-tomcat-6-on-debian-lenny-with-virtual-hosts-and-apache2-integration/ |
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| 19:41.49 | Thijssss | People, I got this server here with tomcat and it's has the Java RMI listening on port 1099 binded to 0.0.0.0 .. how can I bind it to localhost only? is that somethign in tomcat or in some java conf? I could only find a reference to change the port number. |
| 19:42.06 | dvayanu | err |
| 19:42.09 | dvayanu | define java rmi |
| 19:42.19 | dvayanu | 1099 is the rmiregistry port afaik |
| 19:42.22 | Thijssss | remote management ?interface? |
| 19:42.25 | Thijssss | right |
| 19:42.36 | Thijssss | can I disable it all together or change it's bind address? |
| 19:42.46 | dvayanu | you can start it under another adress |
| 19:42.48 | Thijssss | been grepping all the confs but can't find anything for it |
| 19:42.48 | dvayanu | whats the clue |
| 19:44.30 | Thijssss | I do not maintain the software tomcat is running and I am not sure if that's at fault here |
| 19:44.58 | dvayanu | Usage: rmiregistry <options> <port> |
| 19:44.59 | dvayanu | where <options> includes: |
| 19:44.59 | dvayanu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.38 | Thijssss | hmm I see |
| 19:45.49 | Thijssss | but it doesn't have the process 'rmiregistery' running |
| 19:48.26 | Thijssss | I found com.sun.management.jmxremote.port |
| 19:48.33 | Thijssss | not for the address yet, anyone? |
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| 19:49.36 | Thijssss | doesn't even seem to have that :( |
| 19:50.51 | dvayanu | maybe you should describe your problems first |
| 19:51.10 | Thijssss | tomcat is running, it also is listening on port 1099 which seems to be for RMI |
| 19:51.19 | Thijssss | that's ok, but it's using 0.0.0.0 as listen address |
| 19:51.22 | Thijssss | that's is not secure |
| 19:51.31 | Thijssss | it shouldn't listen on any IP address on the server |
| 19:51.43 | Thijssss | just on the management IP address or 127.0.0.1 for example |
| 19:52.08 | Thijssss | I don't want anyone being able to reach it through the backup interface for example |
| 19:55.50 | Thijssss | dvayanu : do you understand what I mean? |
| 19:56.12 | dvayanu | yes |
| 19:56.23 | dvayanu | apparently something is starting an rmiregistry in the tomcat |
| 19:56.58 | Thijssss | that's not by default? |
| 19:57.06 | dvayanu | nope |
| 19:57.29 | dvayanu | did you found something in the server/conf.xml |
| 19:57.29 | dvayanu | ? |
| 19:57.35 | dvayanu | with regard to 1099 |
| 19:57.38 | Thijssss | nope |
| 19:57.55 | Thijssss | in that case i'll tell the customer to fix it |
| 19:58.37 | Thijssss | hmm wait |
| 19:58.40 | Thijssss | found something in their app |
| 19:58.46 | Thijssss | but I shouldn't be the one to change it mmm |
| 19:59.09 | Thijssss | tries anyway |
| 19:59.16 | dvayanu | or just let it be |
| 19:59.27 | Thijssss | no, can't let it be |
| 19:59.29 | dvayanu | cause the only harm in it is if someone knows the reference |
| 19:59.34 | Thijssss | no service should listen on 0.0.0.0 |
| 19:59.39 | dvayanu | its pretty hard to exploit rmiregistry |
| 19:59.40 | Thijssss | people know :) |
| 19:59.52 | Thijssss | in this case, it must be as secure as possible heh |
| 19:59.55 | dvayanu | the question is who is about to connect to this port |
| 20:00.03 | dvayanu | why the port is open |
| 20:00.04 | Thijssss | it's a very high profile environment heh |
| 20:00.10 | Thijssss | it's not, it's totally firewalled |
| 20:00.27 | Thijssss | but these environments need to pass the very best of security audits |
| 20:00.35 | dvayanu | define high profile |
| 20:00.43 | Thijssss | no |
| 20:00.44 | Thijssss | :) |
| 20:01.13 | dvayanu | well, then no |
| 20:01.14 | dvayanu | :-) |
| 20:01.16 | TingOo | Hi.. Good now few guys are here.. !! |
| 20:01.26 | dvayanu | there are always guys here |
| 20:01.35 | dvayanu | they are just not always talking |
| 20:01.40 | TingOo | i followed this tutorial.. |
| 20:01.42 | TingOo | http://www.mogilowski.net/lang/de-de/2008/11/24/install-tomcat-6-on-debian-lenny-with-virtual-hosts-and-apache2-integration/ |
| 20:01.43 | dvayanu | some of us even have families and/or jobs |
| 20:01.48 | TingOo | for setting up tomcat + apache etc |
| 20:02.06 | Thijssss | sorry dvayanu, if I go through this much trouble for such a little thing .. you must understand I shouldn't give any details about such projects on the Internet to someone heh |
| 20:02.07 | TingOo | yes guys live always here.. but don't talk or response here on main.. :) |
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| 20:02.40 | Thijssss | TingOo : it's a utility called 'screen' |
| 20:02.40 | dvayanu | tingoo: at leastthis tutorial tells you to download it from source |
| 20:02.59 | TingOo | yes.. |
| 20:03.13 | TingOo | issue is that.. after doing all steps |
| 20:03.18 | TingOo | at the end it is saying.. |
| 20:03.25 | TingOo | http://www.testsrv.local/test.jsp |
| 20:03.40 | TingOo | so in my scenario (http://IPaddresss/test.jsp |
| 20:03.54 | TingOo | Error 404 of tomcat is showing on it.. |
| 20:04.02 | dvayanu | 404 is great |
| 20:04.07 | dvayanu | at least you get something |
| 20:04.12 | dvayanu | white with a green line? |
| 20:04.21 | Thijssss | TingOo : see apache logs about the request? |
| 20:04.29 | Thijssss | what error does it log? |
| 20:05.07 | TingOo | apache error_log file is not showing any thing.. regarding this error |
| 20:05.22 | TingOo | ThiJissss: check.. that error message.. |
| 20:09.33 | TingOo | Davnyanu: check out error message |
| 20:16.57 | TingOo | That what i was saying.. |
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| 20:34.44 | mgcleveland | Hello all. I've just deployed tomcat6 on my server and it's not loading any of my jsp applications |
| 20:34.53 | mgcleveland | I can't seem to figure out why |
| 20:34.59 | mgcleveland | does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 20:36.33 | mgcleveland | hello? |
| 20:42.42 | mgcleveland | is there anyone in this room? |
| 20:42.47 | Thijssss | yes |
| 20:42.49 | Thijssss | but busy, sorry |
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| 20:48.16 | fzzzt | I think I'm doing this wrong... I've been making a Configuration class of type ServletContextListener to *hold* the config parameters, but after reading more about it, it seems this should instead modify the ServletContext and set the config data in there...does that make sense? |
| 20:54.54 | mgcleveland | Hi Thijssssss |
| 20:55.04 | mgcleveland | my tomcat6 instance is being finnicky about serving up JSP pages |
| 20:55.09 | mgcleveland | namely, it won't do it |
| 20:55.30 | mgcleveland | is this a common problem and, if so, do you have any idea how to resolve it? |
| 20:55.54 | Thijssss | not a common problem; something is broke; no idea |
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