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| 02:14.20 | jasonb | mib_0pvb81: Yes, there's a great one inside my Tomcat RPM package. |
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| 03:32.06 | swr_gbs | tomcat 6.0.18, java 1.6.0_07, mac osx 10.5.5, hello. Is the method servletContext.getResourceAsStream optimized somehow? Is it better to get all needed resources once (on init) and keep them or get the as needed at every request? Has tomcat a cache-like sth while getting resources? |
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| 05:46.28 | gantu | why this room is very quite? |
| 05:46.49 | gantu | I asked several questions but nobody responded? |
| 05:47.08 | gantu | or everybody here are newbies? |
| 05:52.05 | karstensrage | well |
| 05:52.10 | karstensrage | thats a pretty esoteric question |
| 05:52.14 | karstensrage | what problem are you having? |
| 05:52.45 | karstensrage | dont you know that 'premature optimzation is th rt f al evl' |
| 05:57.26 | karstensrage | "SLOW MOTION CHANNEL (we all have jobs & kids): Ask your question, including your TC, Java, & OS versions, then wait; check back often for answers..." |
| 05:57.34 | karstensrage | has jobs and kids |
| 05:57.44 | karstensrage | and I dont even see your question |
| 05:57.57 | karstensrage | i misread someone else's question |
| 05:58.47 | karstensrage | for swr_gbs I would think you would not want to getResourceAsStream on every request |
| 05:59.06 | karstensrage | that what the init IS FOR |
| 05:59.12 | karstensrage | but I could be wrong |
| 06:04.37 | gantu | <gantu> Tomcat 6.0.7 Jdk1.6 Linux |
| 06:04.37 | gantu | <gantu> I have one question |
| 06:04.37 | gantu | <gantu> I have a web application which is working with mysql |
| 06:04.37 | gantu | <gantu> when i netstat i see that more my application is using more than 5 mysql connections |
| 06:04.37 | gantu | <gantu> what is the issue |
| 06:04.38 | gantu | <gantu> ? |
| 06:04.47 | gantu | it was yesterday |
| 06:10.03 | karstensrage | hmmm |
| 06:10.09 | karstensrage | you defined a datasource ? |
| 06:11.00 | karstensrage | i think the dbcp datasource does a good job of managing the connections but i dont know how it allocates them, i dont think it will starve a request if it can help it |
| 06:11.46 | karstensrage | for some reason I seem to think the default is 10.. not sure why I think that though |
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| 06:49.45 | swr_gbs | karstensrage: thanks |
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| 07:40.11 | the_unmaker | anyone alove |
| 07:40.16 | the_unmaker | tomcat 5.5 centso 5.2 |
| 07:40.22 | the_unmaker | jdk 1.5 |
| 07:40.25 | the_unmaker | centos |
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| 09:38.13 | gantu | <gantu> Tomcat 6.0.7 Jdk1.6 Linux |
| 09:38.30 | gantu | when the log is written into catalina.out |
| 09:38.32 | gantu | ? |
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| 09:54.38 | pmpfe | I'm having trouble with http1.1 on internet explorer, and would like to use maxkeepAliveRequests=1 but only for IE |
| 09:54.57 | pmpfe | any idea on how i can configure this selectively just for IE? (Tomcat 5.5.20) |
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| 15:36.56 | teite | hi, I jave a question regarding connector with threadpool (6.0.18, jvm1.69 |
| 15:37.33 | teite | i have defined the http connector with minSpareThreads="25", but i see only one http-ip-1 thread running |
| 15:37.46 | teite | i use jconsole with topthreads |
| 15:38.36 | teite | do i have to define a shared executor? |
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| 16:45.06 | teite | hmm no idea anyone? |
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| 18:31.07 | mib_020ut3 | centso 5.2 tomcat 5.5 jdk 1.5 |
| 18:31.10 | mib_020ut3 | centos |
| 18:31.20 | mib_020ut3 | so guys what si the best way to start tomcat upon boot? |
| 18:31.29 | mib_020ut3 | the startup.sh doesn't ?? set java_home? |
| 18:31.35 | mib_020ut3 | isn't that liek important? |
| 18:31.44 | mib_020ut3 | and im not sure it sets catalina_home... |
| 18:31.51 | mib_020ut3 | how importatn are those 2 things? |
| 18:31.56 | mib_020ut3 | also the apache site is kinda bad |
| 18:32.05 | mib_020ut3 | is documentation going to get better? |
| 18:32.17 | mib_020ut3 | :) |
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| 18:40.21 | q^- | hi |
| 18:41.41 | q^- | apache-tomcat-5.5.26 , slack 10 , jdk1.5.0_14 |
| 18:41.58 | q^- | HTTP Status 404 |
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| 18:59.50 | dsch04 | Hmm, how can I determine the Tomcat, Java, and OS versions of a remote host? |
| 19:00.16 | mib_020ut3 | login |
| 19:00.17 | dsch04 | Apparently I'll need them before I can ask the following question: |
| 19:00.19 | mib_020ut3 | is it redhat? |
| 19:00.36 | dsch04 | I have ftp access to a directory on a shared application server |
| 19:00.50 | mib_020ut3 | ask the provider |
| 19:00.56 | mib_020ut3 | 404 means error |
| 19:01.01 | mib_020ut3 | see http error codes |
| 19:01.04 | dsch04 | :) |
| 19:01.33 | dsch04 | This is the page I'm having the error with: |
| 19:01.34 | dsch04 | http://catalog.importcarparts.com/topend/makes_xml.jsp?partner=topend |
| 19:01.41 | dsch04 | It's caused by this line: |
| 19:01.47 | dsch04 | <%@ page contentType="text/xml" %> |
| 19:10.03 | q^- | i need to be able to run cgi-bin script with tomcat |
| 19:10.06 | q^- | what i have to do? |
| 19:10.55 | q^- | from what i know the support for cgi-bin is disabled by default |
| 19:24.35 | mib_020ut3 | bad idea |
| 19:24.45 | mib_020ut3 | tomcat is a servlet container |
| 19:24.52 | mib_020ut3 | designed so u run stuff as servlet |
| 19:25.00 | mib_020ut3 | why want cgi? |
| 19:25.42 | q^- | because my mailserver needs to run cgi to work |
| 19:25.44 | mib_020ut3 | dsch04: Id say at first glance make a sapce between % and @ |
| 19:25.51 | mib_020ut3 | !! |
| 19:25.54 | mib_020ut3 | erg |
| 19:25.57 | mib_020ut3 | hm |
| 19:26.31 | q^- | ?? |
| 19:26.52 | mib_020ut3 | http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/cgi-howto.html |
| 19:27.06 | mib_020ut3 | CAUTION - CGI scripts are used to execute programs external to the Tomcat JVM. If you are using the Java SecurityManager this will bypass your security policy configuration in catalina.policy. Remove the XML comments from around the CGI servlet and servlet-mapping configuration in $CATALINA_BASE/conf/web.xml. Only Contexts which are marked as privileged may use the CGI servlet (see the privileged property of the Conte |
| 19:27.18 | mib_020ut3 | Remove the XML comments from around the CGI servlet and servlet-mapping configuration in $CATALINA_BASE/conf/web.xml. |
| 19:29.04 | q^- | this ones |
| 19:29.04 | q^- | <!-- |
| 19:29.05 | q^- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.05 | q^- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.05 | q^- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.05 | q^- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.07 | q^- | --> |
| 19:29.24 | q^- | ? |
| 19:31.21 | q^- | have a better idea |
| 19:32.58 | dsch04 | mib_020ut3: I don't think so |
| 19:33.12 | dsch04 | There are other lines in the file, e.g.: |
| 19:33.14 | dsch04 | <%@ page import="java.util.*" %> |
| 19:33.18 | dsch04 | This works fine |
| 19:33.35 | dsch04 | It's just the <%@ page contentType="text/xml" %> that causes the problem |
| 19:33.48 | dsch04 | I have requested version info from the vendor |
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| 20:21.40 | dsch04 | OK, so the service we have currently is Tomcat 3 / Java 1.4 |
| 20:24.24 | kjkoster5489 | ... and? |
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| 20:44.49 | tmccrary | how do I get verbose output from tomcat when running it? |
| 20:45.00 | tmccrary | I'm getting one line of output about garbage collection when tomcat runs |
| 20:45.13 | tmccrary | and I mean tomcat itself, not application level logging |
| 20:45.39 | tmccrary | Logger |
| 20:46.01 | kjkoster5489 | tmccrary: what are you trying to see? GC cycles and such? |
| 20:46.10 | tmccrary | no, I'm trying to debug java web console |
| 20:46.24 | tmccrary | it starts but I just get a blank page after I login |
| 20:46.34 | tmccrary | something with the console app |
| 20:46.42 | tmccrary | but there's no errors in the logs anywhere |
| 20:46.46 | kjkoster5489 | You mean tomcat's manager app? |
| 20:46.57 | tmccrary | no, I mean java web console's "console" app |
| 20:47.29 | tmccrary | but ultimately it doesn't matter, I just want to get tomcat to output what its doing, so I can fix it |
| 20:47.57 | kjkoster5489 | Have you looked at conf/logging.properties? |
| 20:48.18 | tmccrary | it doesn't have that, maybe thats why the output is blank |
| 20:48.34 | kjkoster5489 | What OS is this? Debian? |
| 20:49.09 | kjkoster5489 | Are you using a stock tomcat, or a repackaged one from your distro? |
| 20:49.20 | tmccrary | its java web console on debian |
| 20:49.31 | tmccrary | its the tomcat that comes with java web console |
| 20:50.01 | kjkoster5489 | Oh, I see. I have no experience with that one. |
| 20:50.06 | tmccrary | its just tomcat |
| 20:50.31 | kjkoster5489 | If it is, why does it not have a ${tomcat}/conf/logging.properties? |
| 20:52.16 | kjkoster5489 | Does it have ${tomcat}/conf? Where server.xml lives? |
| 20:52.22 | tmccrary | yeah |
| 20:52.34 | tmccrary | Sun has some kind of external logger registered |
| 20:52.35 | tmccrary | I removed that |
| 20:52.40 | tmccrary | not I just get the regular output |
| 20:52.46 | tmccrary | about log4j not being configured |
| 20:53.23 | kjkoster5489 | A basic log4j.xml might do the trick then. |
| 20:53.37 | tmccrary | I'm looking at this: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/logging.html |
| 20:55.06 | kjkoster5489 | Ok, looks fine. I've never had to do this, because I always use stock tomcat servers, not repackaged ones. Sorry. |
| 20:56.19 | tmccrary | its been repackaged in a completely retarded way |
| 20:56.31 | tmccrary | so you know it has to have come from Sun Microsystems |
| 20:56.38 | tmccrary | no other company would have done things this stupidly |
| 20:57.28 | jawbrkr | is there any particular reason /manager is missing? i'm trying to configure jmx for zabbix |
| 20:58.32 | kjkoster5489 | jawbrkr: are you using zapcat? |
| 20:59.10 | kjkoster5489 | tmccrary: well, the debian package of Tomcat is pretty close to being useless too. |
| 20:59.26 | jawbrkr | kjkoster5489 : no im not, i enabled jmx and i was going to add custom parameters to zabbix_agentd.conf |
| 21:00.04 | kjkoster5489 | You'll find Zapcat much easier then. It runs in-core so it does not hit your machine as hard as external scripts. |
| 21:00.22 | jawbrkr | kjkoster5489 : are you using 1.4 or 1.6 ? |
| 21:00.22 | kjkoster5489 | Plus, it comes with a Tomcat template generator for Zabbix. |
| 21:00.25 | mib_020ut3 | whats zapcat |
| 21:00.34 | jawbrkr | mib_020ut3 : tomcat zabbix plugin |
| 21:00.36 | kjkoster5489 | http://kjkoster.org/zapcat/ |
| 21:00.42 | mib_020ut3 | whats zabbix |
| 21:00.46 | mib_020ut3 | oh some snmp |
| 21:01.01 | kjkoster5489 | Actually, it is a Java/Zabbix bridge and works fine in other servers too. |
| 21:01.19 | kjkoster5489 | I use 1.6 now. |
| 21:01.25 | jawbrkr | kjkoster5489 : wait you wrote zapcat? thanks, i've been using it with 1.4 for a while, but my boss wants more detail |
| 21:01.38 | jawbrkr | thanks for writing it |
| 21:01.41 | kjkoster5489 | np |
| 21:01.53 | kjkoster5489 | I'm working on a new project: http://java-monitor.com/ |
| 21:02.28 | kjkoster5489 | it's centralised monitoring, so you don't have to install zabbix or any other tool any more. Just drop in a WAR and you're off. |
| 21:02.41 | kjkoster5489 | jawbrkr: you can easily add your own items. |
| 21:03.12 | mib_020ut3 | sounds good |
| 21:03.16 | mib_020ut3 | monitoring stinks |
| 21:03.24 | kjkoster5489 | http://kjkoster.org/zapcat/Exploring_JMX.html |
| 21:03.39 | kjkoster5489 | mib_020ut3: what makes you say that? |
| 21:04.09 | mib_020ut3 | im a linux admin by trade and I hate nagios |
| 21:04.10 | mib_020ut3 | :) |
| 21:04.35 | jawbrkr | zabbix is a little overwhelming at first, its really powerful |
| 21:04.35 | mib_020ut3 | monitoring can be improved |
| 21:04.41 | mib_020ut3 | free? |
| 21:04.44 | jawbrkr | free |
| 21:04.48 | mib_020ut3 | ocreate groups? |
| 21:05.05 | jawbrkr | agent based or snmp |
| 21:05.05 | mib_020ut3 | i wish a monitor had a pay to pick a range of servers I can turn off alerts for |
| 21:05.08 | mib_020ut3 | that be nice |
| 21:05.24 | mib_020ut3 | no matter, as long as low resource hog |
| 21:05.42 | mib_020ut3 | a way to pick say server 45-67 out of 100 |
| 21:05.42 | kjkoster5489 | On the monitor server or the Tomcat server being monitored? |
| 21:05.54 | mib_020ut3 | ? |
| 21:05.59 | kjkoster5489 | Zabbix lets you group stuff, dunno about switching alerts on and off. |
| 21:06.00 | mib_020ut3 | i thinking general unix |
| 21:06.15 | mib_020ut3 | 80 ping hard drive space cpu load io load |
| 21:06.18 | mib_020ut3 | stuff liek zat |
| 21:06.25 | mib_020ut3 | nagios does |
| 21:06.31 | mib_020ut3 | but get these preformed groups |
| 21:06.44 | mib_020ut3 | then invariably you want a set of each preformed group |
| 21:06.53 | mib_020ut3 | and have to do 1 ata time |
| 21:06.56 | mib_020ut3 | very uncool |
| 21:07.01 | kjkoster5489 | Well, you could have a look at zabbix.com and check out #zabbix on this IRC |
| 21:07.03 | jawbrkr | mib_020ut3 : its easy to temporarily turn off alerts, you can click on the host and disable monitoring |
| 21:07.06 | mib_020ut3 | should have a range search |
| 21:07.11 | mib_020ut3 | yes |
| 21:07.13 | jawbrkr | e.g. youre taking a group of servers off for maintenaince |
| 21:07.18 | mib_020ut3 | im talking about dozens |
| 21:07.24 | mib_020ut3 | say you are upgrading 50 servers |
| 21:07.34 | jawbrkr | you can group them and select all |
| 21:07.35 | mib_020ut3 | and have 20 server groups |
| 21:07.37 | mib_020ut3 | yes |
| 21:07.40 | mib_020ut3 | but as i said |
| 21:07.52 | mib_020ut3 | if want a subset of a preconfigured group |
| 21:07.55 | mib_020ut3 | you screwed |
| 21:07.58 | mib_020ut3 | as I said |
| 21:08.15 | mib_020ut3 | be ncie to have a search feature, where u can earch a range |
| 21:08.23 | jawbrkr | you can overlap group types , pc a is in group 1 2 3 4, just disable group 2 which the pc falls under ? |
| 21:08.25 | jawbrkr | shrug |
| 21:08.28 | mib_020ut3 | pizzaserver33 to pizzaserver 67 |
| 21:08.32 | mib_020ut3 | soemthign liek that |
| 21:08.39 | mib_020ut3 | yeah |
| 21:08.43 | jawbrkr | nah zabbix cannot do that |
| 21:08.45 | mib_020ut3 | ad hoc would be aweosme feature |
| 21:08.54 | mib_020ut3 | lika same way you search for jobs on monster |
| 21:08.57 | mib_020ut3 | or in email |
| 21:09.05 | mib_020ut3 | with check box for sleect all |
| 21:09.15 | mib_020ut3 | on stuff you got back |
| 21:09.19 | jawbrkr | hrm, what do you think the best way to monitor tomcat performance? |
| 21:09.23 | mib_020ut3 | and 'turn off alerts for X time' |
| 21:09.32 | mib_020ut3 | I heard lambdaprobe is good |
| 21:09.35 | kjkoster5489 | jawbrkr: using zapcat of course. :-) |
| 21:09.40 | mib_020ut3 | and use jio not apr or nio |
| 21:09.47 | kjkoster5489 | jamon and jarep come to mind. |
| 21:09.48 | mib_020ut3 | jio in benchmarks rules the roost |
| 21:10.13 | mib_020ut3 | the official guide said jio beats arp and nio |
| 21:10.15 | mib_020ut3 | amazing eh |
| 21:10.22 | mib_020ut3 | nio slower but has gr8 concurrency |
| 21:10.33 | mib_020ut3 | I was amazed to se tomcat near apache in static file erving |
| 21:11.57 | jawbrkr | kjkoster5489 : do you know why zabbix 1.6 has a preconfigured tomcat template ? |
| 21:12.16 | jawbrkr | btw, im checking out zapcat again |
| 21:12.25 | mib_020ut3 | because obama won? |
| 21:12.39 | jawbrkr | mib_020ut3: exactly |
| 21:13.12 | kjkoster5489 | jawbrkr: it does? |
| 21:13.21 | kjkoster5489 | Well, there is the one from Tomcat that comes with Zapcat. |
| 21:13.31 | kjkoster5489 | But you're better off using the generator instead. |
| 21:13.39 | kjkoster5489 | It finds all the thread pools and stuff. |
| 21:13.41 | jawbrkr | kjkoster5489 : yes it does, but it doesnt work, so thats why i thought it relied on jmx |
| 21:14.37 | *** join/#tomcat ohsix (i=ohsix@66.220.111.222) |
| 21:14.48 | kjkoster5489 | Well, you have to start Tomcat with -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote |
| 21:15.22 | jawbrkr | i did, but trying to access it i couldnt get to http://$tomcatserver:port/manager so thats why i came in here ;) |
| 21:15.54 | kjkoster5489 | Ah. |
| 21:16.15 | kjkoster5489 | Well, you can hook up jconsole if the machine is local, or use the mbeans.jsp page from zapcat. |
| 21:17.38 | tmccrary | I LOVE sun's white screen of death |
| 21:17.41 | jawbrkr | hrmmmm.. |
| 21:17.48 | tmccrary | high five for JAVA's stock price |
| 21:25.28 | jawbrkr | kjkoster5489 : is there any way to get zapcat running on different ports? |
| 21:26.47 | kjkoster5489 | http://kjkoster.org/zapcat/How_To.html and scroll down to Configure Zapcat |
| 21:27.02 | jawbrkr | thanks |
| 21:31.09 | kjkoster5489 | Night all. |
| 21:34.58 | jasonb | Can anyone suggest a service that performs HTTP uptime checking from many data center locations, and generates reports? |
| 21:49.32 | *** join/#tomcat acidjnk (i=acid@pD9508ACB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:49.56 | Internat | i think nagios does |
| 21:50.12 | Internat | well it can check theres soemthign listening there and so on :) |
| 21:51.12 | Internat | if your looking for a pay for service.. i used www.panopta.com for a bit, and it was quite good |
| 21:51.33 | Internat | tad exy which is why i stopped but quite good at what it does |
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| 23:02.24 | *** part/#tomcat wiLi (n=hkml@p5B2D45D0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
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| 23:52.53 | jasonb | Internat: Thanks! Yes, panopta appears like it would be too expensive for what you get. |
| 23:53.15 | jasonb | Internat: We're investigating http://www.uptrends.com right now.. |