| 00:04.42 | oxi | there seems to be "multi tenant", "multi tier", "multi terminal", ... |
| 00:04.45 | oxi | is there more? |
| 00:06.01 | oxi | maybe "multi protocol", "multi lingual", "multi architecture" ... |
| 00:10.20 | oxi | nhls: you showed me nice articles about handling multiple application instances in rdbms |
| 00:10.41 | oxi | nhls: how about the webserver and context part? |
| 00:16.26 | MHSL | oxi, you have to decide on your db design first, then you can just have your webapp design follow your db design |
| 00:17.13 | MHSL | oxi, e.g. if you've decided to go with different db method, then most of the time you don't need to change your existing code |
| 00:18.07 | oxi | well that's true. but I could still decide if I want to support multiple apps in one context or not. |
| 00:19.24 | oxi | the simplest is probalby just to change the jndi resources in context.xml and web.xml and have copies of the served code and files. |
| 00:21.11 | oxi | again it's possible to have multiple instances of one tomcat server with different configuration (like eclipse wdp can confiure) or have different copies. |
| 00:22.02 | oxi | and again I could run it in one jvm or multiple jvm on one machine or multiple virtual machines on one host or multiple hosts... :-) |
| 00:27.15 | MHSL | oxi, have a good think about it, i have to go to work now, bye2 |
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| 07:48.14 | javasucks | I would like a clear explanation of what an "invoker servlet" is |
| 07:50.36 | javasucks | http://pastebin.com/m64b7e555 what is wrong with this web.xml file? it came with the tutorial that i downloaded from tomcat's site. |
| 07:56.27 | javasucks | ugh. i wish they would provide some clear documentation on this "Invoker servlet" crap |
| 07:56.39 | javasucks | so i can fix this "resources not available" |
| 08:04.42 | javasucks | i don't get it.. i replace the .class file with a .class file of the same exact name, different functionality and now i get a resources not available error |
| 08:10.09 | javasucks | o well googling and reading forums give me advice like "mess up your web.xml file in your conf folder so you can't acces ANYTHING" and "add some context bullcrap to another xml file so it too will mess up your tomcat" |
| 08:18.42 | javasucks | ugh why can't i just put files onto the server and then they will work. why do i have to mess with web.xml |
| 08:19.01 | javasucks | o well i've been trying to figure this out for 2 hours |
| 08:19.20 | javasucks | open source causes me too much grief |
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| 08:49.38 | kjetilkWork | javasucks, you shouldn't blame open source in general for the difficulties you have wtih tomcat |
| 08:50.54 | javasucks | in my experiences, the sum of debian, other linux flavors, kphone, sjphone, jboss, configuring and installing apache servers, and all those things give me grief combined |
| 08:51.06 | javasucks | i don't remember having a good open source experience |
| 08:51.33 | kjetilkWork | The only really bad experiences I've had are with tomcat, maven and log4j |
| 08:52.01 | javasucks | step 1: code your installation, copy files in places that you don't know why you're copying there for. Open a configuration file and code some stuff. Google for hours on why something isn't working. ok done installation |
| 08:52.05 | kjetilkWork | but then I'm probably pretty sick to like debian and apache |
| 08:52.13 | javasucks | step 2: trying to make it work |
| 08:52.19 | pucko | then I see no reason why you should ever work with OSS products, since you have already made up your mind. |
| 08:52.40 | javasucks | yea.. i wonder why i'm doing what i'm doing |
| 08:52.44 | javasucks | maybe i'm into pain |
| 08:52.45 | pucko | use the tools that works for you and complete the task. |
| 08:53.13 | javasucks | what if the task is : "Learn how to use apache tomcat or you're fired" |
| 08:53.36 | pucko | get another job. |
| 08:53.43 | javasucks | or "learn how to use this open source bleeding edge technology that no one else knows about or else you're fired" |
| 08:54.05 | javasucks | i remember one job i had.. use Flex beta to make production code |
| 08:54.16 | javasucks | and do a good job on it.. |
| 08:55.20 | javasucks | is there any place i can figure out what this invoker thing is and web.xml stuff? |
| 08:55.25 | kjetilkWork | take your best skills, make a business plan and do a startup :-) |
| 08:55.52 | javasucks | i'm always seeing "This is an xml tutorial. You learn it for nothing because we only tell you syntax and not what its used for" |
| 08:56.47 | javasucks | kjetilkwork i've considered that. no one wants to fund me :( |
| 08:56.53 | javasucks | i have a half built site too heh |
| 08:57.07 | javasucks | i figure i need a job to live off of first |
| 08:57.48 | kjetilkWork | yeah, a friend of mine worked with amazon for a few years to get enough to start a company |
| 08:58.12 | javasucks | i've interviewed everywhere too.. ibm, microscam, google, infosys, yahoo, a bunch of not so well known companies |
| 08:58.55 | javasucks | i flew up to microscam.. the interviewer pointed out a mistake in my code on the board that didn't exist because he didn't see the other line. |
| 08:59.16 | kjetilkWork | uh |
| 08:59.24 | javasucks | o well i had a good sandwich there though |
| 09:00.26 | javasucks | startups need good ideas not good funding.. they can get away with not a lot of funding if the idea + implementation is solid |
| 09:00.54 | JD | javasucks: http://tinyurl.com/5wn3hk |
| 09:01.33 | javasucks | heh e-donkey/mule/jackass/ other 4 legged stubborn animal |
| 09:01.37 | javasucks | i'm poor :( |
| 09:02.20 | JD | if your employer can't afford 25USD, then you should worry how they're going to pay you |
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| 09:05.52 | javasucks | hrm. does it have a section on web.xml and how to get rid of "requested resource not found" kind of errors? |
| 09:06.00 | internat85 | howdy all, i have a question.. i seem to have a wierd problem where by tomcat locks up and then this eventually causes apache to stop accepting connections as well.. im thinking its related to the mod jk (ajp13) or however im doing the apache <==> tomcat linkage.. any ideas as to how i can stop it dying if tomcat has dome something wierd like lock up? |
| 09:21.34 | javasucks | hrm. is using the invoker servlet way of doing things good or bad? |
| 09:22.32 | javasucks | time to sleep |
| 09:25.11 | JD | internat85: kill -3 <pid of tomcat> and then look in catalina.out (or where ever stdout goes) |
| 09:25.39 | JD | internat85: that'll give you an idea of what tomcat is doing |
| 09:25.44 | internat85 | i understand i have a problem with tomcat that needs to be sorted out, but im more interested at the monet on how i stop apache falling over when this happens |
| 09:27.06 | internat85 | s/monet/moment/ |
| 09:27.25 | internat85 | *looks at ibot* thats awsome! |
| 09:29.05 | pucko | no that's annoying :p |
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| 09:30.28 | internat85 | yeah im sure if you did something like s/a/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ or something it would be bad |
| 09:31.55 | lyken | nat of inter |
| 09:32.20 | internat85 | sup bro :) LTNC |
| 09:33.27 | lyken | yer |
| 09:33.28 | lyken | busy |
| 09:33.32 | lyken | no time for java love no more |
| 09:33.48 | lyken | except in liquid form from the coffee machine |
| 09:34.48 | internat85 | hahah |
| 09:34.53 | internat85 | u overseas again/ |
| 09:38.19 | lyken | nah im home again |
| 09:38.20 | lyken | for now |
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| 09:56.46 | internat85 | nice |
| 09:56.58 | internat85 | hey question when you were working for ITS, did you guys youse a program falled Frontrange ITSM? |
| 09:57.33 | lyken | i dont work for ITS |
| 09:57.40 | lyken | i work for the school of itee |
| 09:57.50 | lyken | as an employee of the EPSA faculty |
| 09:57.55 | internat85 | hmms, i thought u worked for its for a bit.. my bad |
| 09:57.56 | lyken | in a systems programmer role |
| 09:58.07 | lyken | i did back in 2000-2002 |
| 09:58.21 | lyken | and hell if i remember |
| 10:00.58 | internat85 | lol ok i was thinking more recent |
| 10:03.55 | lyken | nah dude its been 8 freaking years |
| 10:04.04 | lyken | but damn the money was good |
| 10:04.13 | lyken | for the total 11 students i helped in 2 years |
| 10:04.28 | lyken | i watched a lot of movies, tv and did my assignments |
| 10:34.57 | JD | internat85: I susecpt you can set a timeout on the mod_jk connector |
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| 11:13.19 | kaushal | hi |
| 11:13.37 | kaushal | How can i know how much memory tomcat is hogging |
| 11:18.17 | kaushal | anybody awake here |
| 11:21.03 | kjetilkWork | kaushal, what operating system? |
| 11:21.13 | kaushal | yeah sure |
| 11:21.53 | kaushal | Gentoo OS, tomcat-5.0.27-r6 |
| 11:22.18 | kaushal | sun-jdk-1.5 |
| 11:22.29 | kjetilkWork | you could run top in a shell, it may not be quite right, but it gives a fair idea |
| 11:25.05 | kaushal | kjetilkWork, PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND |
| 11:25.15 | kaushal | kjetilkWork, 12008 tomcat 25 0 1497m 204m 16m S 0 2.9 0:51.19 java |
| 11:26.06 | kjetilkWork | so, VIRT, RES and SHR says something about your memory usage |
| 11:26.19 | kaushal | ok |
| 11:26.29 | kjetilkWork | SHR is not very relevant, since it is a multi-threaded process |
| 11:26.39 | kaushal | so which one I have to consider |
| 11:26.58 | kjetilkWork | and I don't know enough about Java to exactly tell what the significance of the others are |
| 11:27.26 | kjetilkWork | I think that VIRT pretty much means that "this is what I want", whereas RES is "what I actually got" |
| 11:27.41 | kjetilkWork | but you need a Java guru to interprete that :-) |
| 11:28.44 | kjetilkWork | Back in the day, I did an analysis of the kernel-reported memory usage of mod_perl using SMAPS, which was far more grokkable, but that's not very useful knowledge here, I'm afraid |
| 11:33.32 | kjetilkWork | kaushal, you'll find some seriously detailed information in /proc/12008/smaps but not necessarily easier to interprete |
| 11:33.46 | kjetilkWork | that's directly from the kernel though, so more reliable than top |
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| 12:03.11 | kaushal | ok |
| 12:10.49 | kaushal | kjetilkWork, shall i paste you the Output |
| 12:11.00 | kaushal | I mean /proc/12008/smaps |
| 12:12.56 | kjetilkWork | I looked at my own and found that I understood about nothing, so it is of little use, I'm afraid... |
| 12:13.45 | kjetilkWork | I'm really very n00b when it comes to Tomcat, you need a real guru... |
| 12:14.40 | kaushal | ok |
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| 13:05.57 | JD | kaushal: roughly you can use RES+SWAP |
| 13:06.12 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:06.51 | kaushal | JD, 12008 tomcat 25 0 1497m 204m 16m S 0 2.9 1:04.46 java |
| 13:07.06 | kaushal | I see this in top command |
| 13:09.10 | kaushal | JD, if you can let me know |
| 13:10.12 | kaushal | sorry i missed the headers |
| 13:10.19 | kaushal | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.30 | kaushal | JD, my query was how much memory is being used approximately |
| 13:11.39 | kaushal | by tomcat |
| 13:13.33 | kaushal | JD, yt ? |
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| 13:24.11 | JD | kaushal: you probably need to add the SWAP field. press f to add extra fields |
| 13:24.23 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:24.25 | kaushal | sure |
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| 13:26.14 | kaushal | so its 1.3g + 204m |
| 13:26.19 | kaushal | right |
| 13:26.27 | kaushal | I mean from 12008 tomcat 25 0 1497m 204m 16m S 0 2.9 1:07.15 1.3g java |
| 13:26.36 | kaushal | is that correct |
| 13:27.30 | kaushal | so its using 1504 Mib |
| 13:27.34 | kaushal | is that correct |
| 13:27.48 | odin__ | no |
| 13:27.55 | odin__ | 204m is mapped and paged in |
| 13:28.37 | odin__ | 1497m is mapped (which includes not-yet-touched pages, includes paged out/swapped out data, includes dropped text pages since they can be reloaded from the executable) |
| 13:29.13 | kaushal | odin__, ok |
| 13:29.21 | odin__ | 16m are the sharable .text pages and other stuff that more than one process can see |
| 13:29.47 | odin__ | the real foot print if that app is 204m of which 16m is sharable |
| 13:30.01 | odin__ | or rather "of which 16m is shared right now" |
| 13:30.15 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:30.34 | kaushal | odin__, so which parameters i have to consider for the memory usage |
| 13:30.40 | odin__ | 204m |
| 13:31.32 | odin__ | this is like .data+.rodata+.bss+.text+.stack which is actually being touched right now, if your system has 1Gb plus ram (i.e. there is no memory scaricty, then 204m can be considered the activate memory foot print fo the app) |
| 13:31.32 | kaushal | so its using 204m memory |
| 13:32.00 | odin__ | if you have memory scarcity/preasure then 204m might be lower than the active set, since its competeting with other processes |
| 13:32.09 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:32.11 | odin__ | what is your swap usage ? "free" ? |
| 13:32.16 | odin__ | what is your total memory ? |
| 13:32.22 | kaushal | odin__, please give me a moment |
| 13:32.38 | kaushal | Mem: 7168212 |
| 13:32.44 | kaushal | Swap: 524280 |
| 13:32.53 | odin__ | totals, whats swap used ? |
| 13:33.28 | kaushal | its 0 |
| 13:33.29 | odin__ | if you have 7Gb and your app is 204m with no swap, then you can safely say your app uses/needs 204m (as you have zero memory preasure) |
| 13:33.50 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:33.52 | odin__ | dont forget that the 1497m includes thread stacks |
| 13:34.14 | odin__ | the default thread stack mapped for each thread maybe like 16Mb per thread and tomcat uses a few threads |
| 13:34.36 | odin__ | but those threads don't use the entire stack, i.e. they might only use the top 4 pages (16Kb) out of a 16Mb possible thread stack |
| 13:34.49 | kaushal | odin__, how can i know the number of threads used by tomcat |
| 13:35.22 | odin__ | check out the JVM option http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/hotspot/vmoptions.jsp XX:ThreadStackSize=512 option |
| 13:35.30 | odin__ | linux ? |
| 13:35.33 | odin__ | 2.6.x ? |
| 13:35.39 | kaushal | yeah |
| 13:35.48 | kaushal | 2.6.20-xen-r3 |
| 13:35.49 | odin__ | ps uaxm (and count the "-" below the tomcat process) |
| 13:36.01 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:36.08 | odin__ | or "cat /proc/<pid>/status" look for threads |
| 13:36.16 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:37.06 | odin__ | I suspect if your reduce threadstacksize down from default you will see a dramtic reduction in VIRT used |
| 13:37.29 | odin__ | which relate to the unmapped (and untouched) pages of stack accounted for in the VIRT figure |
| 13:37.55 | odin__ | cat /proc/<pid>/smaps |
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| 13:38.00 | odin__ | look for stack |
| 13:38.04 | Eric123 | hello |
| 13:38.28 | Eric123 | Im running tomcat 6.0.16 on windows xp with java 1.5.0_15 |
| 13:38.42 | odin__ | actually "smaps" does not give you the picture you need |
| 13:39.01 | odin__ | the stack reported in [stack] is the lead thread stack |
| 13:39.26 | Eric123 | I have a context listener to load hibernate classes .... the listener works perfect when running on linux but does not start under windows .. and prevents the app from starting |
| 13:41.21 | Eric123 | INFO: Starting Servlet Engine: Apache Tomcat/6.0.16 |
| 13:41.21 | Eric123 | May 30, 2008 9:40:19 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext addApplicationL |
| 13:41.21 | Eric123 | istener |
| 13:41.21 | Eric123 | INFO: The listener "com.myraids.util.hibernate.HibernateListener" is already con |
| 13:41.21 | Eric123 | figured for this context. The duplicate definition has been ignored. |
| 13:41.22 | Eric123 | May 30, 2008 9:40:19 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start |
| 13:41.24 | Eric123 | SEVERE: Error listenerStart |
| 13:41.26 | Eric123 | May 30, 2008 9:40:19 AM org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext start |
| 13:41.28 | Eric123 | SEVERE: Context [/master] startup failed due to previous errors |
| 13:41.31 | Eric123 | this is the output from tomcat |
| 13:41.44 | Eric123 | I have googled this problem for some time now but cant seem to find an answer |
| 13:41.51 | Eric123 | could it be classpath related somehow ? |
| 13:42.41 | odin__ | I would guess your listener throws an exception |
| 13:42.43 | odin__ | which you can't see |
| 13:42.47 | odin__ | you need to trap it and log it |
| 13:42.59 | odin__ | maybe put a try catch in your listener |
| 13:43.07 | odin__ | or fix the logging setup |
| 13:43.12 | Eric123 | it loads with no problem under linux ... in fact I copied the entire tomcat directory |
| 13:43.18 | Eric123 | from linux to windows |
| 13:43.24 | odin__ | yes and you probably made some simple error in that copy |
| 13:43.28 | Eric123 | I remove the listener from the web.xml and the app loats fine |
| 13:43.36 | odin__ | so you think you have done things correctly when you have not |
| 13:43.54 | Eric123 | well .. also tried a fresh checkout from SVN and a 100% fresh install on windows and the same issue |
| 13:43.54 | odin__ | so please prove your listener runs to the end WITHOUT throwing any exception first |
| 13:44.20 | Eric123 | ill double check but Im 90% sure all the code in the listener is in a try catch block |
| 13:44.24 | odin__ | add a log entry at the start and end of listener processing |
| 13:44.25 | Eric123 | I do have some log4j in it |
| 13:45.04 | kaushal | odin__, Thanks |
| 13:45.35 | odin__ | how many threads is your tomcat pulling kaushal |
| 13:45.52 | kaushal | 68 |
| 13:46.38 | odin__ | how many JAR files are in /proc/<pid>/maps , I bet many |
| 13:46.43 | odin__ | each of those is also mapped |
| 13:46.49 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:46.49 | odin__ | for class loading |
| 13:47.04 | kaushal | yeah many |
| 13:47.13 | odin__ | all these things add up to the 1497m you see |
| 13:47.26 | kaushal | odin__, is it documented |
| 13:47.33 | odin__ | which thing? |
| 13:47.40 | odin__ | this is just how linux and how the JVM works |
| 13:47.46 | kaushal | good one |
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| 13:48.08 | odin__ | I think the JVM should have an option to prune/remove mmap() access to files not used recently |
| 13:48.14 | odin__ | but it doesn't |
| 13:48.48 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:49.16 | kaushal | odin__, you said ps uaxm - |
| 13:49.22 | kaushal | i did not understand |
| 13:49.32 | kaushal | to know the number of threads |
| 13:49.59 | odin__ | " ps uaxm" and look for more than one line with "-" as the process name below each process |
| 13:50.21 | odin__ | the first one is the main thread, every process has at least one thread, so all which are multi-threaded will have more than one "-" entry after it |
| 13:50.28 | odin__ | or check /proc/<pid>/status |
| 13:51.48 | kaushal | ok |
| 13:51.54 | kaushal | can i count it |
| 13:52.02 | Eric123 | odin__ you were correct .. there was an error in it that was caused by \ or / depending on the OS .. thanks !!!!!! |
| 13:52.14 | kaushal | is there a method to count |
| 13:52.51 | odin__ | count ? |
| 13:52.54 | kaushal | ps uaxm | grep tomcat | wc -l |
| 13:52.55 | kaushal | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.59 | kaushal | it shows 127 |
| 13:53.12 | kaushal | I have 2 tomcat instances |
| 13:53.18 | kaushal | on the same host |
| 13:53.27 | odin__ | mysql 3590 0.0 0.9 198548 36316 ? - May27 0:41 /opt/mysql-5.0.51b/libexec/mysqld --defaults-file=/data/mysql-2-var/my.cnf --basedir=/opt/mysql-2 --datadir=/data/mysql-2-var |
| 13:53.27 | odin__ | mysql - 0.0 - - - - Sl May27 0:00 - |
| 13:53.40 | odin__ | here is an example of mysql with 2 threads |
| 13:53.45 | kaushal | i got it |
| 13:53.51 | odin__ | the 2 lines below the main one is for each thread |
| 13:54.11 | kaushal | but to count the number of threads |
| 13:54.17 | odin__ | check /proc/<pid>/status |
| 13:54.23 | odin__ | check /proc/<pid>/status | grep Thread |
| 13:54.48 | kaushal | ok |
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| 14:43.06 | didier | hi |
| 14:43.32 | didier | I'm trying to install a apache2+mod_jk+tomcat6 under rhel 5 (evaluation) |
| 14:43.53 | markl__ | mod_jk / |
| 14:44.05 | markl__ | isn't mod_jk end-of-lifed |
| 14:44.10 | didier | the connection between apache and tomcat is working if I use 8009 for ajp13, but not if I use 8010 |
| 14:44.20 | didier | markl__: how ? really ? |
| 14:44.56 | didier | markl__: so what is the good connector now ? |
| 14:46.20 | markl__ | i think people are more likely to use proxy_ajp |
| 14:46.27 | didier | ah ! |
| 14:46.35 | MHSL | markl__, it's not mentioned on tomcat website that it's end of life |
| 14:47.17 | MHSL | didier, don't worry about it, it's not mentioned on tomcat website, so it's not |
| 14:47.26 | didier | MHSL: ok |
| 14:47.49 | MHSL | didier, it should work for both cases, as long as you didnt forget to change your worker.properties and your server.xml |
| 14:48.02 | didier | MHSL: apparently that's what I did |
| 14:48.17 | MHSL | didier, so do you see anything listening on port 8010? |
| 14:48.43 | didier | MHSL: if I do a "telnet localhost 8010" I got an answer |
| 14:49.05 | MHSL | didier, can you see whether any connection in established state using that port? |
| 14:49.43 | didier | MHSL: I don't know how to do this ;) |
| 14:50.05 | MHSL | didier, use netstat -an |
| 14:50.44 | markl__ | didier: were you able to find an rpm for mod_jk |
| 14:52.45 | didier | MHSL: apparently yes http://rafb.net/p/H2wOqA11.html |
| 14:52.51 | didier | markl__: yes |
| 14:53.11 | didier | markl__: mod_jk-ap20-1.2.23-3.el5s2.i386.rpm |
| 14:53.45 | didier | MHSL: that's the result if I telnet on 8010 |
| 14:54.41 | MHSL | didier, the connectivity seems to be fine, so what makes you think it's not working? |
| 14:54.51 | ph|ber | ok guys.. |
| 14:54.57 | ph|ber | gotta get some help. |
| 14:55.03 | didier | MHSL: I got an error in the mod_jk.log |
| 14:55.09 | MHSL | didier, what error? |
| 14:55.19 | MHSL | should have mentioned this first |
| 14:55.24 | markl__ | didier: so you aren't using apache 2.2.3 ? |
| 14:55.52 | ph|ber | tomcat 5.5.15, the application is super fast .. except in the admin page, there is a link for editing pages, and theres one for displaying all dynamic pages, and it takes for EVER to load in production, on development and staging its fine. |
| 14:55.57 | ph|ber | any ideas on how to debug it? |
| 14:56.36 | didier | MHSL: here is the error: http://rafb.net/p/kXnFc488.html |
| 14:56.55 | markl__ | didier: what is wrong with port 8009? |
| 14:57.02 | markl__ | i use, e.g., JkMount /*.jsp ajp13 |
| 14:57.25 | didier | markl__: I'm with apache 2.2.3 |
| 14:57.52 | markl__ | didn't your rpm have a dependency for apache 2.0 |
| 14:58.01 | markl__ | i am trying to remember back when i went through the mod_jk nightmare |
| 14:58.20 | didier | markl__: apparently not, I installed it with rpm -i and i have no problem |
| 14:58.38 | markl__ | interesting, i wonder why red hat doesn't provide it |
| 14:59.09 | didier | markl__: good question :) to force client to but jboss packages :) ? |
| 14:59.23 | markl__ | ah that could be |
| 14:59.28 | didier | s/client/customer |
| 14:59.51 | MHSL | just compile mod_jk yourself, it's very easy |
| 15:00.19 | didier | MHSL: do you think it's because it's not an uptodate version ? |
| 15:02.05 | MHSL | didier, i dont know, but there is a possibility |
| 15:02.24 | didier | MHSL: ok I try to update with the binary found on tomcat web site |
| 15:02.31 | MHSL | didier, because just by looking at the output from netstat, it should be fine |
| 15:03.04 | MHSL | didier, assuming that this output tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:45290 127.0.0.1:8010 ESTABLISHED is not your telnet connection |
| 15:03.31 | didier | MHSL: no no, it's my telnet session |
| 15:03.44 | didier | I have no connection with apache |
| 15:03.54 | didier | I make a new try |
| 15:03.57 | MHSL | didier, so that established is your telnet? |
| 15:04.04 | MHSL | didier, didier you can also try to set the jk connector on server.xml to listen on 127.0.0.1, and see how it goes |
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| 18:56.01 | Zencyl | is it possible for tomcat to listen on port 8080? |
| 18:56.20 | jasonb | Yup. |
| 18:56.25 | jasonb | In fact, it usually does. :) |
| 18:56.57 | Zencyl | wait i meant 80, mybad |
| 18:57.26 | Zencyl | ive been handed a project that they want tomcat listening on port 80 and apache on 8080 |
| 18:57.29 | jasonb | Tomcat can listen to any possible port number, given the permissions to do so. |
| 18:58.04 | Zencyl | ive been googling and really couldnt find much on how to give tomcat those perms |
| 19:09.35 | JD | Zencyl: run it as root |
| 19:10.26 | JD | alternatively, use something like iptables to DNAT the port from 80 to something > 1023 |
| 19:10.36 | Zencyl | yeah i really dont want to do that since my security guy would probably hate me for it |
| 19:10.43 | Zencyl | i like option number 2 |
| 19:10.53 | JD | it's a little hacky, but should work |
| 19:11.03 | Zencyl | i was thinking of doing that to like 8085 or something of that nature |
| 19:11.16 | JD | make sure you document it everywhere or people will be very very confused |
| 19:11.46 | JD | as nothing will be listening on port 80 and people will be pulling their hair out |
| 19:12.01 | JD | <- speaking from experience |
| 19:12.08 | Zencyl | could be fun for the team after me :) |
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| 19:35.27 | cppexpert | Have anybody every tried IntelliJ IDEA ? I'm trying to migrate from Eclipse and have difficulties with deployment to Tomcat. Or maybe you can suggest more appropriate chanell for this question. Thank you. |
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| 19:50.19 | aless | i'm trying to run catalina 6.0.16 in ubuntu 8.04 as daemon. I read i should directly copy catalina.sh to init.d and then make the symlinks to the run level. My question is: how could i run catalina as an specific user. |
| 19:57.28 | JD | aless: do you want a package? |
| 19:58.05 | aless | JD: im wondering if catalina.sh or some startup script has some enviroment to set the executing user |
| 19:58.26 | JD | aless: no, it doesn't change the user as far as I'm aware |
| 19:58.47 | aless | JD: so im going to do it by hand, thanks a lot |
| 19:58.51 | JD | it runs as the user that you run that script as |
| 19:59.01 | JD | aless: I'm in the process of packaging tomcat6 for Debian |
| 19:59.15 | aless | im gonna do sudo su user -c catalina.sh or somethign |
| 19:59.27 | JD | if you want to use a package, you're more than welcome to try it out |
| 19:59.31 | aless | that would be great |
| 19:59.45 | JD | I guess I should build a package then :) |
| 19:59.50 | JD | hold on |
| 19:59.57 | JD | do you want amd64 or i386? |
| 20:00.01 | aless | i386 |
| 20:00.11 | JD | that's handy. Hold on :) |
| 20:00.30 | aless | k |
| 20:02.28 | JD | I suspect it will only work with sun-java6-jdk. is that the vm you're using? |
| 20:06.54 | javasucks | is there any safe place where i can off-load an Intel Engineering sample? |
| 20:07.07 | odin__ | when us jdk6u10 coming out of beta? |
| 20:07.59 | javasucks | n/m forget it |
| 20:08.57 | odin__ | shall I bend over ? |
| 20:09.17 | odin__ | prepares to accept (your Engineering sample!) |
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| 20:17.46 | sparc- | Hi, I am using tomcat 5.5 and java 5, what is the best way to send a file to a response object from a servlet? |
| 20:18.56 | aless | JD: that one |
| 20:39.34 | JD | aless: okay, you need to add the following to your apt-sources.list file |
| 20:39.35 | JD | deb http://packages.catnip.org.uk/ hardy/$(ARCH)/ |
| 20:39.35 | JD | deb http://packages.catnip.org.uk/ hardy/all/ |
| 20:39.52 | JD | bare in mind I've only had it serving static html so far |
| 20:39.57 | JD | bear* |
| 20:40.49 | JD | you'll find /etc/defaults/tomcat6, where you can set TOMCAT6_USER |
| 20:41.11 | JD | also, you may want to disable the security manager, as it doesn't seem to work so well |
| 20:41.26 | JD | youd be the first person outside me to try it |
| 20:41.26 | aless | thanks a lot! ill give it a try later |
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| 23:46.30 | gileswork | heya tcaters |
| 23:47.08 | gileswork | i'm getting this duplicate Listeners error when I'm trying to run a war file for jira |
| 23:47.10 | gileswork | any ideas? |
| 23:47.17 | gileswork | it's probably a school boy error on my part |
| 23:47.44 | gileswork | INFO: The listener "com.atlassian.jira.appconsistency.db.DatabaseCompatibilityEnforcer" is already configured for this context. The duplicate definition has been ignored |
| 23:48.19 | gileswork | 6.0.16 |
| 23:55.05 | gileswork | uh oh |
| 23:55.09 | gileswork | reading bugzilla |
| 23:55.22 | gileswork | what ver should i be using! |
| 23:57.11 | gileswork | 6.0.14 .. |
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