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| 02:54.40 | jlpp | Does anyone here use eclipse/WTP/tomcat? |
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| 03:32.35 | icicled | can someone do my homework for me? :P |
| 03:33.43 | icicled | j/k. was wondering if anyone has messed with CometProcessor |
| 03:37.15 | icicled | if so, is there anything I should watch out for? |
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| 04:03.50 | littlemissjava | hi, i've been coding java for a long time but i'm pretty new to jsp and servlets. i have just installed tomcat and everything is working fine. but where do i have to create links so that i can have my servlets stored in a working directory in my home folder. i don't think it's a good idea to keep using sudo to edit the source files in the install dir! i tried creating links from teh /install_root/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/ for both packages and classes b |
| 04:04.04 | littlemissjava | any ideas would be great! |
| 04:32.14 | MHSL | littlemissjava, so you've installed tomcat as root, hence tomcat is owned by root. now you want to have tomcat access your home directory to look for your webapp, correct? |
| 04:33.28 | MHSL | littlemissjava, you have few options, 1) recommended: create a context under conf/Catalina/localhost to point to your webapp in your home dir 2) not recommended: change appBase of your <Host> in your server.xml |
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| 04:36.34 | littlemissjava | MHSL: is a context teh application xml file? |
| 04:36.58 | MHSL | littlemissjava, you may want to read http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/config/context.html |
| 04:37.57 | littlemissjava | MHSL: thank you.. i'll go through it |
| 04:38.19 | jason_ | My tomcat5.5 cannot connect mysql5.0, the log for catalina.out refer to http://pastebin.com/m77e9fe6c |
| 04:38.58 | MHSL | jason_, basically it's just this: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out |
| 04:39.23 | MHSL | jason_, your tomcat is unable to connect to your mysql, so you may want to check whether your mysql is running and tcp is enabled |
| 04:40.06 | jason_ | MHSL, but why? The same application can access from another windows platform, my server is ubuntu server |
| 04:41.50 | MHSL | jason_, i dont know, firewall maybe? should be configuration issue |
| 04:42.08 | jason_ | MHSLï¼ I can confirm that same web app run with tomcat on another windows can access mysql |
| 04:43.26 | jason_ | MHSL, so it seems as if my mysql refuse local connectionï¼ |
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| 04:52.49 | MHSL | jason_, maybe, you can check which interface your mysql is listening on |
| 04:54.59 | jason_ | MHSL>I have tested with telnet 127.0.0.1 3306, failed; but telnet myip 3306 from other pc ,success |
| 05:03.10 | littlemissjava | MHSL: why did you not recommend changing the appbase in server.xml.. is it security issues? |
| 05:03.49 | littlemissjava | i have no idea what a context file is even after reading that document! so i was thinking of taking the second option but don't want to open myself up to too many security issues |
| 06:13.31 | icicled | littlemissjava, maybe this will be of some help: http://www.javapassion.com/j2ee/ |
| 06:14.04 | icicled | yes it's long and arduous but hopefully you can get something out of it |
| 06:14.25 | icicled | at least looking at the examples will definitely help =] |
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| 13:55.06 | Vegeta | sir I get nulls when I try to get context-param from jsp using getInitParameter() |
| 13:55.11 | Vegeta | why? plz help |
| 13:55.23 | Vegeta | I set correctly my web xml |
| 13:55.30 | Vegeta | my tomcat version 6 |
| 13:55.34 | Vegeta | jsp 2.0 |
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| 13:58.55 | Vegeta | hey randrew |
| 13:59.01 | Vegeta | can you help me in jsp? |
| 13:59.08 | Vegeta | answer would be simple |
| 14:01.00 | randrew | Vegeta: what's the q? |
| 14:01.23 | Vegeta | sir I get nulls when I try to get context-param from jsp using getInitParameter() |
| 14:01.23 | Vegeta | <Vegeta> why? plz help |
| 14:05.57 | randrew | Vegeta:google |
| 14:06.18 | randrew | getinitparameter tomcat |
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| 14:19.34 | JVEGETA | how do we get context-param from jsp? |
| 14:20.57 | JVEGETA | I use getIninparameter and it returns null |
| 14:21.01 | JVEGETA | xml file is fine |
| 14:24.55 | JVEGETA | hey bro |
| 14:24.58 | JVEGETA | sis |
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| 14:57.20 | Zack1403 | hi all, i was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of setting up url aliases? |
| 14:57.37 | Zack1403 | ive searched google and i just must be searching for the wrong keywords |
| 14:58.09 | acidjnk | hello |
| 14:58.24 | acidjnk | How complicated is your case? Can you give an example of which URL should have which alias? |
| 15:01.19 | elbac | I have Apache configured with mod_proxy to Tomcat, it's working fine when it's using http, but when I change it to use ajp it breaks. I think the ProxyPassReverse directive is broken but I can't see where. My config is here: http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/view/178/ does something different need to be done for ajp as compared to http? |
| 15:06.43 | Zack1403 | acidjnk: thank you for your help, very simple actually. I just need to point /retention to a certain folder |
| 15:07.49 | Zack1403 | elbac: do you get any error message in the logs? |
| 15:08.15 | acidjnk | I don't know about that, because it is not a mapping from an URL to a servlet. |
| 15:08.35 | Zack1403 | i currently use proxyPass and ProxyPassReverse w/ ajp |
| 15:08.43 | Zack1403 | let me look at my setup real quick |
| 15:09.16 | acidjnk | When you use Apache, too, can't you do it with apache and a rewrite rule? |
| 15:10.00 | elbac | acidjnk, you can. |
| 15:10.16 | elbac | zack1403, No errors in the log |
| 15:10.37 | Zack1403 | i have ProxyPreserveHost On, do you think that would matter? |
| 15:11.20 | elbac | I've tried it with it on and off |
| 15:11.42 | elbac | from what I understand that tells tomcat to write out the urls using the URL that was passed in as opposed to what is defined in the conf file |
| 15:12.25 | Zack1403 | you for sure have ajp turned on in your server.xml? |
| 15:13.23 | elbac | yes |
| 15:13.31 | elbac | it connects and displays pages |
| 15:13.35 | elbac | but the reverse part doesn't work |
| 15:13.41 | elbac | any redirects from the server |
| 15:13.42 | elbac | fail |
| 15:15.14 | Zack1403 | acidjnk: i didnt know i could use a rewrite rule with a proxy pass, ill give that a try |
| 15:15.57 | elbac | zack1403, if you want it to be included in the proxy you need to use [P] |
| 15:16.01 | elbac | I think.. |
| 15:16.14 | Zack1403 | oh nice thats why it never worked |
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| 15:38.40 | Zack1403 | elbac: you ever figure that out? |
| 15:38.54 | elbac | sorta |
| 15:39.01 | elbac | not pleased with it, cause I thin kit's still broken |
| 15:39.43 | elbac | if I change the ProxyPassReverse rule to / http://externalhostname/web it works |
| 15:39.46 | elbac | but that seems broken |
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| 15:40.05 | elbac | cause then I have to have a reverse rule for www.externalhostname and any other urls |
| 15:40.08 | elbac | that doesn't make sense |
| 15:40.29 | elbac | I got the idea from changing the erorrlevel to debug and going through the log for one bad request |
| 15:40.41 | elbac | still doesn't seem like that's the correct configuration though. |
| 15:44.10 | Zack1403 | hmm im actually struggling with a similar issue now |
| 15:46.40 | elbac | hit me |
| 15:49.06 | Zack1403 | well funny enough i thought my proxypass was working, but after we talked i figured out the reverse is not (dont worry site isnt live yet) |
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| 20:52.09 | elbac | Zack1403, you still here? |
| 20:52.18 | Zack1403 | yea |
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| 20:55.51 | Zack1403 | no luck up to this point, had to jump off the issue for a bit |
| 21:02.11 | elbac | What I thought was a hack seems to be correct: |
| 21:02.11 | elbac | http://lenya.apache.org/docs/2_0_x/tutorials/mod_proxy_ajp.html |
| 21:02.26 | elbac | and get rid of the PreserveHost stuff |
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| 21:11.46 | ruediste | (tomcat 5.5.25, java sun 1.6.0.04, debian) I placed test.xml in /usr/share/tomcat5.5/conf/Catalina/localhost and web.xml in /usr/share/tomcat5.5-webapps/test/WEB-INF but I keep seeing a white page if I try to access the servlet. Is there anything obivous I've fogotten (of course I do have a .class file) |
| 21:12.00 | ruediste | ? |
| 21:14.23 | ruediste | Nothing on the logs, except java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.io.FilePermission /home/ruedi/workspace/test/WEB-INF/classes/loggig.properties read) |
| 21:14.39 | ruediste | Nothing on the logs except: |
| 21:15.15 | ruediste | java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.io.FilePermission /home/ruedi/workspace/test/WEB-INF/classes/logging.properties read) |
| 21:15.36 | ruediste | a couple of times |
| 21:18.46 | elbac | did you check the filepermissions on said file? |
| 21:22.25 | ruediste | it does not exist |
| 21:22.50 | ruediste | But I tried once creating one, the error did not go away |
| 21:23.45 | ruediste | Anyways, what is is /logging.properties for? |
| 21:29.57 | elbac | "loggig.properties" |
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| 22:14.14 | talcite | hi guys. I just started using tomcat 5.5, but I may possibly switch to tomcat6. Is there a book someone can recommend or a guide that someone can recommend teaching me about tomcat usage? |
| 22:14.52 | talcite | I'm a relatively comfortable linux user, i.e. I'm logging into the machine with tomcat over ssh with an RSA key and working over terminal purely |
| 22:15.14 | talcite | so I guess any book that doesn't overwork the basis would be great |
| 22:20.23 | Zack1403 | hey all, |
| 22:22.27 | Zack1403 | when i am using proxypass for tomcat and a user doesnt have a trailing slash, apache will add the trailing slash but it will also add the context name |
| 22:22.34 | Zack1403 | any ideas why this would be happening? |
| 22:23.40 | Zack1403 | for example: example.com/about will redirect to example.com/tomcatcontext/about/ |
| 22:24.57 | pfn | apache is not the one that adds the slash |
| 22:25.07 | pfn | is my guess |
| 22:25.29 | Zack1403 | hmmm, would it be tomcat? |
| 22:25.47 | pfn | yes |
| 22:26.09 | pfn | talcite, the oreilly tomcat book, of course |
| 22:26.17 | Zack1403 | is there a way to turn it off (so apache will do it instead) |
| 22:26.34 | pfn | Zack1403, no, how can apache know anything about tomcat's directory structure |
| 22:27.11 | Zack1403 | well i dont want it to, i just want a trailing slash to be added |
| 22:27.22 | pfn | then use a rewrite rule |
| 22:27.27 | pfn | for every directory |
| 22:27.31 | pfn | rewrite and redirect |
| 22:27.52 | pfn | RewriteRule ^/about$ /about/ [R] |
| 22:27.54 | Zack1403 | i have a rule for that but i shouldnt have to do that right? |
| 22:28.02 | pfn | I already explained |
| 22:28.14 | pfn | httpd *DOES NOT* know what requires a trailing slash and what does not |
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| 22:28.56 | Zack1403 | no no i mean i was hoping its possible to have 1 rewrite rule do it for every directory |
| 22:29.14 | pfn | if you can name all your directories in the rewrite rule, go ahead |
| 22:29.41 | pfn | RewriteRule ^/(dirA|dirB|dirC|dirD|dirETC)$ /$1/ [R] |
| 22:29.55 | pfn | again, as I've said, there is no way for httpd to know what is a directory on tomcat |
| 22:29.58 | pfn | period |
| 22:30.22 | pfn | point #2--you should not try to ProxyPass to differing path names |
| 22:30.22 | Zack1403 | i understood that, sorry for the confusion |
| 22:30.36 | pfn | e.g. ProxyPass /foo ajp://.../bar |
| 22:30.39 | pfn | is a recipe for disaster |
| 22:30.59 | Zack1403 | oh im not |
| 22:31.06 | pfn | that sounds like it |
| 22:31.08 | Zack1403 | its ok for different subdomins though right? |
| 22:31.09 | pfn | you just said above |
| 22:31.20 | pfn | ProxyPass / ajp://.../tomcatcontext/ |
| 22:31.25 | pfn | that is a problem right there |
| 22:31.32 | pfn | it should be ProxyPass / ajp://.../ |
| 22:31.42 | Zack1403 | ooooh i see |
| 22:31.54 | Zack1403 | what if i am hosting multiple tomcat apps on one machine? |
| 22:32.02 | pfn | or ProxyPass /tomcatcontext/ ajp://.../tomcatcontext/ |
| 22:32.17 | pfn | what about it? it doesn't matter |
| 22:32.24 | pfn | point the correct uri to the correct context |
| 22:32.30 | Zack1403 | ah i see |
| 22:32.49 | Zack1403 | well this application is a main website |
| 22:32.54 | Zack1403 | the boss wants a clear url |
| 22:33.01 | Zack1403 | ex: www.lasdjf.com |
| 22:33.03 | pfn | then deploy tomcatcontext as ROOT |
| 22:33.06 | pfn | not tomcatcontext |
| 22:33.11 | pfn | ROOT = / |
| 22:33.23 | pfn | anything_else = /anything_else |
| 22:33.40 | Zack1403 | can i still deploy other apps on that tomcat server event though one is the root? |
| 22:33.50 | pfn | yes |
| 22:33.55 | pfn | you can deploy as many apps as you want |
| 22:34.00 | Zack1403 | oh i see |
| 22:34.11 | Zack1403 | thank you for the information this is all very helpful |
| 22:34.21 | pfn | if you have one in ROOT and one in whatever, /anything will go to ROOT while /whatever/anything will go to 'whatever' |
| 22:34.57 | Zack1403 | ahhh |
| 22:35.12 | Zack1403 | i dont know why i thought it wouldnt work |
| 22:35.23 | pfn | of course, that means if ROOT has a /whatever path, the 'whatever' context will hide it |
| 22:35.43 | pfn | and the answer to that is: make sure you don't hide any urls like that |
| 22:36.17 | Zack1403 | of course |
| 22:36.31 | Zack1403 | pfn you have been an invaluable resource |
| 22:43.27 | Zack1403 | that actually just sidesteps the whole trailing slashes problem all together, deploying it as root |
| 22:43.29 | Zack1403 | awesome |
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| 23:01.30 | Base2 | Hey everyone. Im having 100% CPU problems on Tomcat 6.0.11, Java 1.5_10 and up, Windows/Linux/OS X when using the NIO connector... is this a known problem? Is there a work around? |
| 23:01.55 | Base2 | Sorry, to clarify we only run java 1.5.0 the "and up" is revisions 10 and up |
| 23:11.04 | jasonb | Base2: You should upgrade to Tomcat 6.0.16. 6.0.11 has some bad bugs I think. |
| 23:11.16 | jasonb | .. especially if you're using the NIO connector. |
| 23:12.18 | Base2 | k |
| 23:13.10 | Base2 | ive seem some stuff on the web regarding nio and java 1.5 pushing cpu to 100%, something about selector locks, I assumed from the posts these things were fixable in code just required work arounds |
| 23:13.26 | Base2 | seems the post i read said it was fixed in 6.0.10... should I be concerned? |
| 23:16.20 | jasonb | There have been many things not quite right with the NIO and APR connectors through many versions of 6.0, and they're still coming, it seems. |
| 23:16.35 | jasonb | So, the more up to date you are, the more of those are fixed in the Tomcat you're running. |
| 23:18.57 | pfn | bah, just use the normal connector |
| 23:19.03 | pfn | synchronous io is better throughput than nio :p |
| 23:19.08 | pfn | asynchronous nio, that is |
| 23:19.22 | jasonb | Yes, "Normal" = JIO = better. :) |
| 23:19.52 | pfn | asynchronous io only becomes desirable when you're looking at server more concurrent jobs than your processor can handle |
| 23:20.35 | jasonb | Yeah. The number of threads you'd have to have running becomes too high. |
| 23:20.55 | jasonb | But, very, very few web sites end up in that boat. |
| 23:21.03 | pfn | I suppose memory is also an issue with high thread counts |
| 23:21.14 | pfn | the required stacks will kill your memory quick-like |
| 23:21.26 | jasonb | Yes. It's certainly a problem |
| 23:21.36 | jasonb | That kind of load causes OOMEs much more frequently. |
| 23:27.07 | Base2 | We're writing a web based service that consumes many threads |
| 23:27.24 | Base2 | per user we're talking 5 connections keep-alived |
| 23:27.29 | Base2 | constantly |
| 23:27.34 | Base2 | pushing large amounts of data |
| 23:27.55 | jasonb | Yeah, then you might need the NIO connector. |
| 23:28.11 | Base2 | ya, using 5.5 we started to see serious problems around 100 concurrent users |
| 23:28.46 | jasonb | Well, the NIO connector is better in more recent versions of Tomcat 6. |
| 23:29.06 | Base2 | Next question, if there is a suspicion that NIO will continue to be buggy, thats really helpful, we ship on the 15th of April |
| 23:29.36 | jasonb | Well, eventually it won't be very buggy anymore. |
| 23:29.45 | Base2 | define eventually :) |
| 23:29.46 | jasonb | It's probably nearly there. |
| 23:30.01 | vinse | around the 16th of april |
| 23:30.05 | Base2 | :P |
| 23:30.07 | jasonb | :) |
| 23:30.40 | jasonb | Base2: Are you shipping software containing Tomcat where you won't be able to upgrade it when new fixes are available? |
| 23:30.48 | Base2 | basically |
| 23:31.02 | jasonb | Base2: Or, is Tomcat in your server farm? |
| 23:31.10 | Base2 | We ship tomcat and run it as embedded |
| 23:31.15 | jasonb | Okay. |
| 23:31.27 | Base2 | And its in locations where upgrades are not easy to come by |
| 23:31.37 | vinse | how do you mean? |
| 23:31.42 | Base2 | Gov't |
| 23:31.50 | Base2 | sensitive gov't networks |
| 23:32.03 | jasonb | What I'd suggest, regardless, is: make your software able to take hotfix updates, and apply those to Tomcat on the user's machine when they're downloaded, and then restart your application. |
| 23:32.10 | jasonb | (if you can do that) |
| 23:32.25 | jasonb | That way, regardless of what bug you find, you can actually patch it that way. |
| 23:32.34 | jasonb | It's actually pretty easy to do that with Tomcat. |
| 23:32.42 | Base2 | Right, in theory its drop a new jar in |
| 23:33.04 | jasonb | Just put the few new classes in the server's classes dir and those would get picked up in front of the ones in the jars that it initially shipped with. |
| 23:33.28 | Base2 | Getting files onto these networks is very difficult |
| 23:33.29 | jasonb | that way, if there are NIO fixes later, or any fix you want to distribute and apply, you have a way of doing that. |
| 23:33.49 | jasonb | Well, you can even email them out with a scripted installer. *shrug* |
| 23:33.53 | Base2 | haha |
| 23:34.00 | Base2 | these networks are not attached to the internet |
| 23:34.20 | jasonb | Welp, no net, no updates then. |
| 23:34.36 | Base2 | They have to come in on CD and be reviewed prior to installing |
| 23:34.54 | jasonb | Then forget doing that. |
| 23:35.07 | jasonb | Today's NIO will just have to be good enough. |
| 23:35.12 | jasonb | (for government work!) |
| 23:35.14 | Base2 | Ill try 6.0.16 and see if we run into any more problems... if we hit them, then we won't scale as much this iteration as we'd like |
| 23:35.36 | jasonb | yeah. |
| 23:35.52 | Base2 | Is the standard http connector as buggy in 6 as nio? |
| 23:36.27 | jasonb | No, the JIO connector is solid, and doesn't appear to be changing much. It's just the NIO and APR connectors that are still a little shaky right now. |
| 23:36.47 | Base2 | Cool, thank you all very much for your help |
| 23:37.10 | Base2 | Oh, one more... 6.0.11 to 6.0.16 is just a straight jar replacement? |
| 23:38.05 | jasonb | Hmm.. you could. It would be better if you also updated the files in conf/ as well. |
| 23:38.31 | Base2 | hmm ... does that affect embedded? |
| 23:38.42 | jasonb | Oh, yeah, embedded.. |
| 23:38.55 | jasonb | No, just the Jars should work fine then I think. |
| 23:39.11 | jasonb | Just make sure you end up with exactly the right set.. |
| 23:39.19 | Base2 | k |
| 23:39.20 | jasonb | If some are removed in the new one, don't leave it in yours! |
| 23:39.25 | Base2 | of course :) |
| 23:39.30 | Base2 | ivy will handle that for me :) |
| 23:39.40 | jasonb | Otherwise, yeah, you can just get new jars. |
| 23:39.55 | Base2 | ivy == my savior |
| 23:39.59 | jasonb | hasn't researched ivy yet. |
| 23:40.17 | Base2 | we have a pretty big ivy repo internally |
| 23:40.24 | Base2 | makes it so easy to start new projects |
| 23:40.24 | jasonb | Neat! |
| 23:40.45 | jasonb | I'm hearing more about it, so it must be useful for something. |
| 23:41.05 | Base2 | its like maven's dependency handling minus maven's annoyances |
| 23:41.14 | jasonb | sweet! |
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| 23:59.26 | pfn | jio shouldn't be feeling anything at 500 threads |
| 23:59.39 | pfn | even 1000 threads shouldn't be so horrible |
| 23:59.51 | Base2 | right, we do A LOT of work |