| 00:47.10 | pfn | that should work just fine |
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| 01:54.49 | cathartia | it doesn't work. I get, "'the folder you entered doesn't appear to be valid' |
| 01:55.28 | cathartia | when I use cadaver as a client or Mac OSX I have no problem. Does anyone know how to get tomcat's webdav servlet to work on Windows? |
| 01:56.28 | cathartia | I've setup webdav on a server called Jigsaw and got it working with windows as the client, but with Tomcat, no luck. |
| 01:58.18 | el_dan | hi! Tomcat 5.5.26, java version 1.7.0, Linux Fedora 8. tomcat not always notice when my jsp have changed, how can i make that tomcat compiles jsp pages always? |
| 01:59.17 | el_dan | i already have debug set to true in web.xml file |
| 02:06.22 | albert_kam | el_dan: Yup, it could happen at times. When that happens, you could delete the tomcat cache directory which is located in $TOMCAT_HOME/work .. After deletion, the $TOMCAT_HOME/work will be an _EMPTY DIRECTORY_, and the tomcat would have to recompile every JSP again. But only do this when this rare case happen. You dont want to recompile every JSP often. |
| 02:09.39 | el_dan | albert_kam: is there another solution? like setting some configuration so tomcat can do this automatically? |
| 02:10.44 | cathartia | I have to step aside. I'll be back to ask again. |
| 02:12.13 | el_dan | how does tomcat decide to compile a jsp file again? |
| 02:16.04 | el_dan | mmm ok thanks |
| 02:18.01 | albert_kam | AFAIK and based on my experience, the default tomcat configuration should always recompile new JSPs. This case should be rare exceptions :-) |
| 02:22.59 | el_dan | for example if i just have two lines like "out.println("")" and if i add a new one it doesnt compile |
| 02:27.02 | el_dan | it works just deleting the folder you said thanks |
| 02:27.06 | el_dan | =) |
| 02:31.43 | albert_kam | el_dan: it will recompile, if you refresh the modified page in browser .. |
| 02:31.47 | albert_kam | no prob :) |
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| 02:47.08 | el_dan | see you |
| 03:27.40 | ___ | how do u deicde which version is good? |
| 03:27.46 | ___ | 5.5.26 or 6.0.14? |
| 03:32.42 | jasonb | ___: Well, there have been some improvements in the code since the 5.5.x version. |
| 03:33.09 | IvrGuru | anything other than the directory structure? |
| 03:33.17 | jasonb | IvrGuru: Also, different major versions of Tomcat target different major versions of the Servlet and JSP specifications. |
| 03:33.31 | jasonb | The older versions of Tomcat target older versions of the specs. |
| 03:33.37 | IvrGuru | oh ok |
| 03:33.54 | IvrGuru | how can I check which version my apps run their jsp's under? |
| 03:34.03 | jasonb | But, each major version you go up, it should be better on memory, better on performance in general, more options/features, etc. |
| 03:34.37 | jasonb | Also, newer versions of the specs are meant to be backwards compatible with older servlets and JSPs that were initially developed for older versions of the specs. |
| 03:35.04 | jasonb | So, older JSPs, for instance, should still run fine in a newer Tomcat. |
| 03:35.45 | IvrGuru | oh ok |
| 03:35.51 | jasonb | Mainly, check your webapp's WEB-INF/web.xml to see what version of the servlet specification it was written for, and then that would also tell you what version of JSP is locked with that version of Servlets. |
| 03:36.06 | IvrGuru | say it is it 2.0 |
| 03:36.17 | jasonb | JSP? Or Servlets? |
| 03:36.19 | IvrGuru | 5.5.26 or 6.0.14 would mean the same right? |
| 03:36.24 | IvrGuru | jsp execution wise |
| 03:37.00 | jasonb | Tomcat 6.0 is backwards compatible with Tomcat 5.5's webapps.. |
| 03:37.01 | jasonb | But, Tomcat 6.0 is a Servlet 2.5 / JSP 2.1 web container. |
| 03:37.01 | IvrGuru | my app was running on 4.1.36 |
| 03:37.09 | IvrGuru | upgraded to 5.5.26 |
| 03:37.21 | IvrGuru | but is not in production yet |
| 03:37.26 | jasonb | Well, if it runs on 5.5, it should run fine on 6.0.x. |
| 03:37.42 | jasonb | (with the potential exception of some cookie behavior, but that's very easy to test. |
| 03:37.51 | jasonb | ) |
| 03:38.24 | IvrGuru | how? |
| 03:38.53 | jasonb | If logging into your webapp works, and logging out works, then the cookie behavior is fine. |
| 03:39.11 | IvrGuru | I can login to my admin page and manager page |
| 03:39.18 | IvrGuru | but not the default tomcat page |
| 03:40.27 | jasonb | log in to the default tomcat page? |
| 03:40.36 | IvrGuru | ya |
| 03:40.53 | IvrGuru | localhost:8080/ |
| 03:40.55 | IvrGuru | for example |
| 03:41.09 | jasonb | I'm not sure what you mean. Normally, the default Tomcat page is not access controlled. Are you talking about your own webapp's front page? |
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| 03:41.38 | IvrGuru | I cant get to http://localhost:8080/ |
| 03:42.22 | jasonb | Well, that should work by default. |
| 03:42.49 | IvrGuru | manager app login works |
| 03:42.56 | IvrGuru | and so does admin page |
| 03:43.00 | IvrGuru | login |
| 03:43.12 | jasonb | Okay, then cookies work. |
| 03:43.18 | IvrGuru | oh ok cool |
| 03:43.19 | IvrGuru | thx |
| 03:43.28 | jasonb | If you're talking about the default applications, we already know they work. |
| 03:43.38 | IvrGuru | ya |
| 03:43.40 | jasonb | (or else the Tomcat committers wouldn't release Tomcat with broken ones) |
| 03:43.57 | jasonb | Are we discussing running your webapp, or the default webapps that come with Tomcat? |
| 03:44.06 | IvrGuru | running my webapp |
| 03:45.45 | IvrGuru | gtg |
| 03:45.49 | IvrGuru | thx for ur time |
| 03:46.59 | jasonb | You're welcome. |
| 03:50.47 | albert_kam | Will i benefit from better performances if i upgrade from 4.x to 6.x with the same old web.xml (the same servlet specification) ? |
| 03:50.59 | jasonb | Yes! |
| 03:51.04 | albert_kam | now that's great news :) |
| 03:51.23 | jasonb | Mainly because the web server connectors code is much improved over that many years. |
| 03:51.42 | jasonb | That's about a four year open source development span. |
| 03:52.21 | albert_kam | The only thing that concerns me now is that if i upgrade tomcat, i've got to upgrade jdk, and there comes the problems. We 've been using 3rd party applet libraries which looks fine when using jdk 1.4, and will look different when upgraded above 1.4 .. but that's another issue other than tomcat :) |
| 03:52.53 | albert_kam | I believe tomcat will be fine .. it's just the applet thingy >.< |
| 03:53.29 | jasonb | Yes. You could upgrade from 1.4 just to 1.5. Tomcat 6.0.x runs fine on Java 1.5.x. But, yeah, that's above 1.4, so you'd have to be able to run the code on 1.5. |
| 03:54.27 | jasonb | And, Java 1.6 also performs better than Java 1.4.. clearly. |
| 03:54.41 | albert_kam | Actually, after some thinking, i could run tomcat with newest jdk, and serve applets to clients which could still use jdk1.4 plugins .. it's a kinda win win solution :) |
| 03:55.23 | albert_kam | jasonb: thanks for your time |
| 03:55.37 | jasonb | Yes, you could do that. Java 1.6 is also backwards compatible with Java 1.4.x (mainly). |
| 03:56.57 | jasonb | You're welcome. |
| 03:57.51 | jasonb | albert_kam: Also, in case you want detailed info about how to upgrade through those versions of Tomcat, I wrote all that up in our new book Tomcat: The Definitive Guide, 2nd Edition (O'Reilly). |
| 03:58.43 | albert_kam | I hope that books is available in Indonesia .. :D |
| 03:58.57 | jasonb | It should be. It is marketed worldwide. |
| 03:59.58 | albert_kam | Cool :) |
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| 05:06.25 | Rsulliv1 | 14; windows 2003; java 1.5.0_11 -- Can anyone point out a good example of 1. ) retrieving a multipart post from within a servlet, then 2. ) forwarding it to another server via httpclient, urlconnection, or httpurlconnection, finally 3. ) read the answer from the second server and return it through the initial response? |
| 05:07.19 | Rsulliv1 | I've seen a few varying examples via google, but nothing has seemed to work for forwarding files and form text elements. |
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| 07:58.05 | pettern | hi |
| 07:59.30 | pettern | how do i restart tomcat on a windows 2003 server? |
| 07:59.44 | pettern | restarting the service doesnt seem to work |
| 08:07.12 | Intern[a]t | what makes you think it doesnt work? |
| 08:09.29 | pettern | well the site is not accessible after i restart the tomcat service |
| 08:09.40 | pettern | so i guess i have to restart something else also |
| 08:10.10 | pettern | maby a java process or something? |
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| 08:18.12 | pettern | im not talking about something that has happend once or on just one server. i seem to have this problem each time i try to restart tomcat |
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| 10:16.00 | yamaguchi | is jasonb present? |
| 10:32.40 | Cope | hi |
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| 11:13.21 | joey[] | if I use Quartz scheduler in my Spring Framework project, can I run that in Tomcat, same as my web application or I have to install advanced application server like Geronimo? |
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| 11:38.52 | MHSL | pettern, no there is only 1 thing that you need to restart, which is tomcat itself, nothing else |
| 11:39.15 | MHSL | pettern, if you still cant access your web app, check the log, or it may be configuration problem |
| 11:39.41 | MHSL | joey[], you can use it in a similar way like in java app |
| 11:51.47 | joey[] | MHSL: so I can run my quartz jobs inside a tomcat? |
| 11:52.01 | joey[] | I dont have to run it as command-line app? |
| 11:53.21 | MHSL | joey[], yes you can, no you dont |
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| 12:37.00 | pettern | MHSL, i think i found the reason. the shutdown and resatart scripts give me an error because a path is missing |
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| 12:42.18 | Syco54645_work | hello, i am trying to set up a sandbox for me and the other developer (each have our own) for our tomcat development with svn. can anyone give me a hand with that? just a guide would help, but sandbox is in the source so it is kind of hard to find any info. |
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| 12:55.47 | deebo | just isntall tomcat on your desktops |
| 12:56.01 | deebo | having it on the network seems pointless |
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| 12:57.03 | kjkoster5489 | Syco54645_work: I don't understand what you are trying to do. |
| 13:02.27 | Syco54645_work | kjkoster5489: i am just trying to have tomcat run on multiple ports, maybe 8080, 8081 and 8082. 8080 will have an svn hook that on commit it will push it to there (for project manager viewing), 8081 will be the files that i am editing and 8082 will be the other developers files |
| 13:02.51 | Syco54645_work | that way we can see what we are working on |
| 13:02.51 | Syco54645_work | hope that makes some sense |
| 13:02.59 | kjkoster5489 | Just run three tomcats, on on each port. |
| 13:03.30 | Syco54645_work | oh so then there needs to be three separate processes? |
| 13:04.03 | kjkoster5489 | Yes, and there are some other ports that each tomcat uses that may overlap. |
| 13:04.56 | Syco54645_work | i am running this in windows (unfortunately) would i just have to install multiple instances of tomcat? |
| 13:05.12 | kjkoster5489 | Most shops I know have one tomcat on 8080/8443/8009..., then one on 9080/9443/9009/... and up by 1000 for each next instance. |
| 13:05.24 | kjkoster5489 | Dunno. |
| 13:05.30 | kjkoster5489 | Never use Windows. |
| 13:05.38 | kjkoster5489 | I don't I mean. |
| 13:05.39 | Syco54645_work | i shall do the ports in 1000 increments then |
| 13:05.50 | Syco54645_work | i wish i didnt, but it is what the client wants |
| 13:06.24 | kjkoster5489 | *shrug* not suggesting that you should not use Windows. |
| 13:06.49 | Syco54645_work | i know, just wanted to vent about it ;) |
| 13:06.53 | kjkoster5489 | :-) |
| 13:07.15 | kjkoster5489 | Maybe install cygwin and just run the tomcats as daemons? |
| 13:07.25 | kjkoster5489 | The dev ones, at least. |
| 13:07.31 | Syco54645_work | hmmmm never thought of that |
| 13:07.54 | kjkoster5489 | You can even ssh into the box and never know it is Windows (until it locks a log file, that is). |
| 13:08.10 | kjkoster5489 | scp for deployment. |
| 13:08.20 | kjkoster5489 | What more does a Java dev need? |
| 13:08.42 | Syco54645_work | well i have the drive mapped |
| 13:09.01 | Syco54645_work | so i can pretend that it is local to me |
| 13:09.14 | Syco54645_work | i do not think that the server has ssh yet |
| 13:10.40 | kjkoster5489 | Well, let us know if the multi-tomcat service works. Sounds like something I will need when it is my turn to be bullied into deploying on Windows. |
| 13:11.16 | Syco54645_work | i will mess with it today, so far it is not working (just tried installing another service and windows complained) |
| 13:11.34 | kjkoster5489 | What makes a service unique? The name? |
| 13:12.57 | Syco54645_work | i have no idea, but this os is not made for a being a server, that is for sure |
| 13:13.57 | Syco54645_work | the installer does not give an option to give the service a different name either |
| 13:15.46 | kjkoster5489 | Maybe rename it in the services panel? |
| 13:15.55 | kjkoster5489 | Or with regedit? |
| 13:17.18 | Syco54645_work | i am not that familiar with windows |
| 13:17.23 | Syco54645_work | i am a linux user myself |
| 13:17.27 | Syco54645_work | have been since before xp |
| 13:20.04 | kjkoster5489 | So here we have the blind leading the deaf. :) |
| 13:20.59 | Syco54645_work | haha |
| 13:33.12 | Syco54645_work | sounds like see no evil hear no evil |
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| 13:55.46 | Syco54645_work | http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=515368&messageID=2458945 |
| 13:55.49 | Syco54645_work | that is kinda helpful |
| 13:56.14 | Syco54645_work | well meeting time, i will report back if/when i get this workfing |
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| 14:03.43 | Cope | What is the GlobalNamingResources container for? |
| 14:04.02 | Cope | It looks in my example that it contains resource definitions for a user database |
| 14:04.14 | Cope | which seems to me only to be used for the admin interface(s) |
| 14:04.24 | Cope | but if I remove it, tomcat doesn't start |
| 14:31.44 | yamaguchi | hi is jasonb present ? |
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| 15:53.11 | joe__ | hi all-- tomcat 6.0.16.0, bea jvm 1.5.0_12-b04, rhel4 kernel 2.6.9-55.0.9.ELsmp |
| 15:53.37 | joe__ | looking for advice on configuring tomcat with cisco css 11501 w/ ssl offloading |
| 15:54.52 | joe__ | the css decrypts ssl on 443 and sends all traffic clear to tomcat on 80 |
| 15:55.45 | joe__ | when I have my transport-guarantee confidential, it seems to do a circular redirect |
| 15:56.17 | joe__ | when none, i get redirected to plain 80 |
| 15:56.47 | joe__ | this is form-based authentication |
| 15:57.30 | joe__ | my redirectPort is 443 |
| 15:58.29 | joe__ | 443 is the only port open to world |
| 16:00.16 | joe__ | one final note: css sends all traffic to 80/tcp, tomcat runs on 8080/tcp, and iptables does the redirect |
| 16:00.52 | joe__ | will keep plugging, but appreciate any input. thanks all |
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| 16:05.12 | jasonb | yamaguchi: Hi. Still around? |
| 16:05.22 | yamaguchi | yes hi |
| 16:05.42 | yamaguchi | i have new idea about this application |
| 16:06.25 | yamaguchi | i have debugged one more time and i think that findServices works fine but... |
| 16:07.27 | yamaguchi | when ServerFactory.getServer is called i get new fresh object with no services inside |
| 16:07.44 | yamaguchi | and that why findServices was unable to find anything |
| 16:08.43 | jasonb | ahh. |
| 16:08.56 | yamaguchi | the problem is with getServer. This method doesn't return reference to Tomcat instance in which my application is running |
| 16:09.08 | yamaguchi | that what i have discovered |
| 16:09.53 | yamaguchi | so making privilege="true" doesn't make any difference in my case :-( |
| 16:10.00 | yamaguchi | have you any idea ? |
| 16:11.03 | jasonb | In one of the recent refactorings of the Tomcat internals, they made it possible to have more than one <Server> in server.xml. Maybe that's why you don't get the one you want when you just make a call to ServerFactory.getServer().. it doesn't specify which one you want. But, it's strange because you do indeed only have one. Maybe my code is too old now. There might be another call where you can specify to get a specific one, or specify to get all of th |
| 16:11.03 | jasonb | em. |
| 16:12.47 | jasonb | Hmm, nope, it's still treated as a singleton in ServerFactory. |
| 16:12.54 | jasonb | (in 6.0.14, at least) |
| 16:15.31 | yamaguchi | how can I show debug tree of Server object ? |
| 16:15.49 | yamaguchi | i will make a screenshot but don't know where to post |
| 16:16.00 | jasonb | You'd need to read some more of the Tomcat source to find out how it deals with construction of <Server> objects. |
| 16:17.46 | jasonb | hmm, pfn has an image/screen shot paste server. |
| 16:21.29 | jasonb | yamaguchi: When I get some time, I'll try this code and see what I can do with it. If ServerFactory doesn't contain the server reference, I don't see any easy way of getting a reference to it right now. |
| 16:21.44 | jasonb | yamaguchi: But, why it wouldn't contain a reference to it, I'm not sure. |
| 16:22.00 | yamaguchi | allright then |
| 16:22.24 | yamaguchi | i just find the way to show you this screenshot, please wait about 5 min.. |
| 16:22.43 | jasonb | ok |
| 16:28.33 | yamaguchi | this is my conf/server.xml - http://pastebin.org/24120 |
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| 16:41.51 | yamaguchi | here is the screenshot http://progzmaster.prv.pl/serv.JPG |
| 16:42.01 | yamaguchi | uff |
| 16:42.09 | jasonb | yamaguchi: Your server.xml looks fine. |
| 16:42.16 | yamaguchi | yes |
| 16:42.18 | yamaguchi | thanks |
| 16:42.58 | yamaguchi | look at the image. The service[0] is selected and some exception text is at the bottom |
| 16:43.18 | yamaguchi | port is 8005 |
| 16:43.37 | yamaguchi | and everything else is null |
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| 16:52.42 | jasonb | yamaguchi: What I'd do is: run Tomcat in a debugger, put a breakpoint on ServerFactory.setServer() and watch to see if it calls that more than once, and also when it gets called, find out what the server looks like that is being set in there. |
| 16:53.56 | yamaguchi | ok |
| 16:54.06 | yamaguchi | setServer or getServer ? |
| 17:00.11 | jasonb | I mainly mean to watch when Tomcat sets the server into ServerFactory. Does it ever do that? Or, does the Server get created when something calls getServer()? I guess you could instead watch the server member of that class for whenever it gets set.. |
| 17:01.27 | yamaguchi | oh i see |
| 17:02.52 | jasonb | And, at the time it's set, does the Server instance contain any useful data? |
| 17:49.44 | yamaguchi | jasonb: Are you still debugging ? I will wait then Tell me when you are done.. :-) |
| 17:50.20 | jasonb | yamaguchi: I'm at work.. so, no, I'm not debugging Tomcat at the moment.. |
| 17:50.56 | jasonb | yamaguchi: I said, when I have some time I'll see what I can do with it. |
| 17:51.05 | yamaguchi | :) |
| 17:51.26 | jasonb | And, I described to you how you could debug it if you have the time before then. |
| 17:52.05 | yamaguchi | ok thank you |
| 17:53.49 | jasonb | You're welcome. |
| 17:53.50 | yamaguchi | I will try to catch you later. Don't want to disturb. I am very happy you are helping me. See you then bye |
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| 19:03.07 | cvw | It is possible to determine the port number(s) that Tomcat is listening on from within a servlet? |
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| 19:08.42 | milesd | Hi, everybody. When I specify <error-page>... in my web.xml file and give it a jsp file to run, is there any way to also get it to pass the reason for the error? |
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| 19:10.46 | milesd | on 5.5.26 |
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| 20:21.20 | joe__ | solved my problem: set up the connector differently |
| 20:21.22 | joe__ | secure= |
| 20:21.28 | joe__ | secure="true" |
| 20:21.37 | joe__ | scheme="https" |
| 20:21.47 | joe__ | proxyPort="443" |
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| 22:21.38 | Cope | hello |
| 22:21.50 | Cope | is the following nonsensical on a 32 bit machine: |
| 22:21.52 | Cope | [ okapi ][ 0 amber 1 bash (2*irc) 3- garnet 4 onyx 5 zircon 6 sapphire 7 amethyst 8 mercury 9 quartz 10 bash 11 bash 12 bash ][ 17/03 22:25 ] |
| 22:21.56 | Cope | erm!! |
| 22:22.04 | Cope | giggles. |
| 22:22.07 | Cope | take 2 |
| 22:22.22 | Cope | export CATALINA_OPTS="-server -Xms2512m -Xmx2512m" |
| 22:22.50 | Cope | OS is Linux |
| 22:22.53 | Cope | 2.6 kernel |
| 22:22.56 | Cope | RHEL 5 |
| 22:23.24 | Cope | I mean shouldn't -Xms be pegged at 2048? |
| 22:23.33 | Cope | The machine has 8G but how much of that can be used? |
| 22:37.48 | pfn | 64bit machine? 64bit jvm? as much memory as you've got |
| 22:38.00 | pfn | on a 32 bit machine, the max is a little over 2gb |
| 22:48.30 | Cope | I'd need to upgrade java to get 64 bit... that's not possible atm |
| 22:48.37 | Cope | does that mean that my 6G is wasted? |
| 22:48.53 | Cope | (apart from if I ran multiple tomcat instances?) |
| 22:49.12 | Cope | this machine only runs tomcat |
| 22:49.20 | Cope | or perhaps I could run 3 vms? |
| 22:49.27 | Cope | any mileage in that? |
| 22:58.15 | pfn | you could run 3 vms |
| 22:58.20 | pfn | why not just get the 64bit jvm |
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| 23:20.59 | Cope | pfn: the devs and the business won't move off 1.4.2 |
| 23:21.12 | Cope | and 1.4.2 // 64 bit isn't supported/available on linux |
| 23:21.15 | pfn | that's a silly stand |
| 23:21.40 | Cope | yes... will need some persuasion and demonstration |
| 23:21.48 | Cope | I suppose I could run on solaris |
| 23:21.56 | Cope | that way i'd get 64 bit jvm |
