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| 04:03.31 | kelly | anyone got a sec for a simple jsp question? |
| 04:05.54 | kelly | or know of a jsp chat channel? |
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| 04:07.19 | albert_kam | Hello, i'm using java 1.5 and tomcat 5.0.x .. Could you help advising me in this real situation ? |
| 04:08.00 | albert_kam | I got an already running webapp, which is heavyweight, overloaded, and from times to times, need restarting ... and i'm going to install another webapp, a small one .. |
| 04:08.40 | kelly | not sure anyone is awake... lol |
| 04:08.42 | albert_kam | My dilema is that if i'm going to install the small app in the current overloaded tomcat .. i'm afraid when the old heady app goes down, the small new app goes down also .. |
| 04:09.16 | albert_kam | So, should i install this in a new tomcat instance ? Meaning i got two tomcats, each has one webapp .. |
| 04:09.29 | lyken | sure can |
| 04:09.32 | albert_kam | make the ports differ from one another .. |
| 04:09.36 | lyken | yups |
| 04:09.46 | albert_kam | will this do, or there's other bestpractise approaches |
| 04:09.48 | albert_kam | :p |
| 04:09.48 | lyken | we have up to 120 instances of tomcat running on our hosts |
| 04:10.03 | albert_kam | wow ^^; |
| 04:10.30 | kelly | ok. there are some folks here |
| 04:10.38 | albert_kam | The point is that when one goes down, it doesnt take the other webapps, that's the reason why we got many tomcat instances ? |
| 04:10.40 | kelly | awake |
| 04:10.42 | lyken | students |
| 04:10.52 | albert_kam | sorry, it's daytime here in indonesia :) |
| 04:10.55 | lyken | all running their assignments at the same time |
| 04:10.58 | lyken | its daytime here too |
| 04:11.21 | albert_kam | 120 tomcat instances meaning 120 tomcat directories ? each has it's bin, webapps, conf, etc ? |
| 04:11.38 | lyken | yes |
| 04:11.40 | kelly | oh cool. its 11:11 here in Charlotte, NC |
| 04:11.43 | lyken | 120 jvms running |
| 04:11.53 | lyken | the class has 160 students |
| 04:12.00 | lyken | but most i ever saw online was 120 |
| 04:12.00 | lyken | hehe |
| 04:12.03 | albert_kam | it must be a super-hardware-server |
| 04:12.05 | albert_kam | >.< |
| 04:12.11 | lyken | yeah 64GB ram |
| 04:12.34 | lyken | but i thankfully dont manage that box or teach the class anymore :) |
| 04:12.42 | kelly | going to throw in my question now... yall familiar with jsp:include ? |
| 04:12.51 | albert_kam | what's the setting for the -Xmx ? |
| 04:12.54 | albert_kam | :D |
| 04:13.19 | albert_kam | kelly: basically it just fetch the file content from the included file and include in the page that calls jsp:include ? |
| 04:13.53 | lyken | albert_kam: 64mb per instance |
| 04:14.03 | lyken | kelly: shoot, haven't coded jsp in a whiles |
| 04:14.12 | lyken | but i should be able to answer |
| 04:14.43 | kelly | if I wanted to do something like <jsp:include page="skins/${skinName}/banner.jsp" /> what are the valid ways of replacing the {$skinName} var ? |
| 04:15.00 | kelly | nothing I tried is working |
| 04:15.26 | lyken | um, let me dig up some old code |
| 04:15.31 | lyken | ive done that kinda stuff before |
| 04:15.37 | kelly | just get error that can't include "skins//banner.jsp" |
| 04:16.19 | lyken | yer |
| 04:16.27 | albert_kam | ${skinName} .. what's this variable ? |
| 04:16.38 | kelly | a folder name |
| 04:16.39 | albert_kam | usually, for dynamic value, i use the old approach such as this |
| 04:17.10 | albert_kam | <jsp:include page="<%= "skins/" + mySkinName + "/banner.jsp" %>" /> |
| 04:17.32 | lyken | yeah that will work |
| 04:17.52 | kelly | I tried c:set and <% String skinName = "basic"; %> |
| 04:17.56 | albert_kam | i think you're using the new approach(at least new for me, haha), using expression ${xxx} |
| 04:18.57 | kelly | not sure but seems like the c tags can't talk to the jsp tags.... sorry my exp has been in ASP,ASP.NET, and PHP mostly |
| 04:19.01 | albert_kam | How about <%! String skinName = "basic"; %> |
| 04:19.28 | kelly | ahhhh think you might have something there.... let me try it |
| 04:19.46 | albert_kam | between <%! or <!% |
| 04:20.32 | albert_kam | :p |
| 04:20.51 | kelly | should be <%! but that didn't work.... darn |
| 04:21.54 | kelly | can't find anywhere online where using jsp tag you set a variable (locally) and then are able to use it in expressions |
| 04:22.08 | albert_kam | you declared the variable before the jsp:include, am i right ? |
| 04:22.54 | kelly | can you use setProperty jsp tag? or is this only for beans? like can you pass "this" into setProperty? |
| 04:23.04 | kelly | yes.... setting variable before |
| 04:24.05 | albert_kam | if i were you, i'm gonna make one very simple jsp to test .. just setting one variable, and using that variable in a taglib attribute like jsp:include :) |
| 04:24.45 | kelly | I wonder if that doesn't matter with the way tomcat converts to a servlet ... are tag libs evaluated before inline code? |
| 04:25.18 | kelly | just guessing here. lol |
| 04:25.52 | albert_kam | the attribute should be evaluated first .. |
| 04:26.50 | kelly | then I'm clueless |
| 04:27.06 | kelly | think I may have to order " Beginning JSP™, JSF™ and Tomcat Web Development: From Novice to Professional (Beginning from Novice to Professional)" book tomorrow |
| 04:27.20 | kelly | looks pretty good |
| 04:27.33 | albert_kam | wait, dont give up yet :D |
| 04:27.46 | kelly | ok |
| 04:28.15 | kelly | albert did you try the setProperty thing? |
| 04:28.21 | albert_kam | try this, while i'm compiling kchm to read my ebook |
| 04:28.24 | albert_kam | http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/tags/syntaxref.fm11.html |
| 04:28.45 | albert_kam | nah, i rarely use that setProperty thing .. i still use struts, the <bean:define tag |
| 04:31.24 | kelly | ok set Property thing not working with "this" |
| 04:32.09 | albert_kam | For variable declaration, you can try this : http://www.jsptut.com/Declarations.jsp |
| 04:35.11 | kelly | shoot... just checked and my <c: tags are being sent out to the output.... that explains why they aren't doing anything |
| 04:35.27 | albert_kam | brb, sudden meeting >.< |
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| 04:42.22 | kelly | sorry folks ...have to hit the hay and catch some zzzzzzzz. Guess I will pick up a book tomorrow. Thanks Albert and Lyken |
| 04:44.54 | lyken | yeah get the tomcat the definitive guyide |
| 04:44.56 | lyken | err |
| 04:44.57 | lyken | guide |
| 04:45.05 | lyken | 2nd edition was just released |
| 04:45.13 | lyken | for admin stuffs at least :) |
| 04:45.44 | kelly | sounds good.... thanks for the recommendation |
| 04:46.10 | kelly | later yall |
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| 04:50.53 | DeuX-Office | hi... anyone here try to build tomcat 6.0.14 using openjdk ? |
| 04:51.59 | lyken | why the hell would you build tomcat ? |
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| 05:41.22 | DeuX-Office | lyken: so that I can include it in arklinux distro |
| 05:41.38 | lyken | *nods* |
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| 05:42.03 | lyken | i haven't tried, but then again ive never needed to compile it |
| 05:42.09 | lyken | i just use the binary release |
| 05:42.58 | vershun_ | Is there a reason why c:out value="${var}" would be outputting ${var}? I thought I wasn't using the EL at first but conditionals work fine (<c:if test="false"> etc) |
| 05:45.29 | DeuX-Office | k |
| 05:48.34 | vershun_ | I'm using Tomcat 5.5 and Struts 1.3.8 and Java 1.5 and Ubuntu Linux |
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| 06:09.20 | albert_kam | vershun_: Hi, i think this will help you http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=383062&messageID=4312519 |
| 06:09.38 | albert_kam | i believe it's about the jsp version you're using in the web.xml which is the problem .. |
| 06:10.20 | albert_kam | in jsp 2.0 EL is not enabled by default |
| 06:10.26 | albert_kam | in jsp 2.3 it's enabled by default |
| 06:10.37 | albert_kam | To know which jsp version u're using try this : http://saloon.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=58&t=012159 |
| 06:10.47 | albert_kam | And also this : http://www.theserverside.com/discussions/thread.tss?thread_id=44097 |
| 06:10.54 | albert_kam | i love google :D |
| 06:19.58 | vershun_ | lol OK thank you very much albert_kam |
| 06:20.08 | albert_kam | have fun ;) |
| 06:20.35 | vershun_ | That was it, had to set the isELIgnored to false |
| 06:20.42 | vershun_ | Man that was killing me :x |
| 06:25.03 | albert_kam | im dont mean to be a zen master, but beautiful lotus flowers grow from muddy water .. :p |
| 06:26.30 | vershun_ | hahaha |
| 06:26.37 | vershun_ | Well, thanks sir. Goodnight |
| 06:26.48 | albert_kam | Goodday from Indonesia >.< |
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| 07:43.48 | prashantkasbe | my current tomcat setting doesnot have logging enbles |
| 07:44.23 | prashantkasbe | to make it enable i need to place log4j.properties at which location |
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| 08:06.18 | prashantkasbe | last line of shutdown.sh is "exec "$PRGDIR"/"$EXECUTABLE" stop "$@""...whats the meaning of $@ ? |
| 08:09.37 | albert_kam | try this : |
| 08:09.45 | albert_kam | albert@albert:~> cat > test.sh |
| 08:09.45 | albert_kam | #!/bin/sh |
| 08:09.45 | albert_kam | echo "$@" |
| 08:09.45 | albert_kam | echo "param 0 == $0" |
| 08:09.45 | albert_kam | echo "param 1 == $1" |
| 08:09.46 | albert_kam | ^D |
| 08:09.50 | albert_kam | sorry i paste >.< |
| 08:10.06 | albert_kam | and then try runing ./test.sh asdf asdf asdf |
| 08:10.12 | albert_kam | i think u'll get the point |
| 08:11.19 | albert_kam | ^D means ctrl-d |
| 08:14.03 | albert_kam | in short, i think $@ means the rest of the parameters supplied |
| 08:14.53 | prashantkasbe | ok thanks |
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| 08:15.21 | albert_kam | no problem |
| 08:15.32 | prashantkasbe | i need to restart tomcat if i changed log3j properties right? |
| 08:15.36 | prashantkasbe | log4j* |
| 08:15.54 | albert_kam | as far as i know, yes .. :) |
| 08:16.27 | albert_kam | or if the webapp is small enough, you could restart the webapp without restarting the whole tomcat |
| 08:16.51 | albert_kam | using the tomcat manager, http://blah:xx/manager/html |
| 08:16.59 | prashantkasbe | actually, each instance already has its own logger, but tomcat logger is not present |
| 08:17.16 | albert_kam | tomcat logs are located at $TOMCAT_HOME/logs ... |
| 08:17.28 | albert_kam | like catalina.out, localhost_log* |
| 08:17.53 | prashantkasbe | i cant open server/images/img.jpg , the instance loggers dont log it, i was hoping tomcay logger would |
| 08:19.04 | albert_kam | well, perhaps the image is not there physically ? |
| 08:19.11 | prashantkasbe | it is there |
| 08:19.16 | prashantkasbe | firefox opens it, IE doesnt |
| 08:19.27 | albert_kam | ah, the browser thingy >.< |
| 08:19.35 | albert_kam | have you tried view source from IE ? |
| 08:19.42 | albert_kam | look directly at the html |
| 08:19.56 | prashantkasbe | yup, even if i type in the full path of the image file, it doesnt show up |
| 08:20.16 | albert_kam | perhaps you could try cleaning up the IE cache, close IE and opening it up again |
| 08:20.22 | albert_kam | if it still persists, hit Ctrl+R |
| 08:20.53 | prashantkasbe | tried clearing cache, cookies, refreshing etc...nothing works |
| 08:21.07 | albert_kam | have you tried ctrl+R ? |
| 08:21.22 | prashantkasbe | nothing in the img folder opens, if i rename it to img1 then everything in the folder opens |
| 08:21.37 | albert_kam | may i know the complete url you type in IE and firefox ? |
| 08:22.55 | prashantkasbe | http://stg.www.xxx.com/en_US/Images/Content_Images/CEP/CEP_banner_generic.jpg |
| 08:23.01 | prashantkasbe | gives a page cant be displayed error |
| 08:23.16 | prashantkasbe | everything outside the CEP folder works fine |
| 08:23.39 | prashantkasbe | (firefox works in CEP also) |
| 08:24.22 | albert_kam | Have you tried this from other PC perhaps ? |
| 08:24.30 | albert_kam | using IE too, of course |
| 08:24.55 | prashantkasbe | happens from all IE's, any comp |
| 08:25.14 | albert_kam | that's strange >.< |
| 08:25.36 | prashantkasbe | yup |
| 08:25.51 | albert_kam | How about replacing '_' with %5F |
| 08:25.59 | albert_kam | the url encoding thingy -_- |
| 08:26.18 | albert_kam | en %5FUS/Content %5FImages/ |
| 08:27.38 | prashantkasbe | nope, didnt work in ff either |
| 08:28.41 | albert_kam | have you tried checking the head and trailing spaces in the IE url ? |
| 08:29.27 | albert_kam | Im out of idea too here, hahaha |
| 08:30.55 | albert_kam | how about entering http://stg.www.xxx.com/en_US/Images/Content_Images/ |
| 08:30.59 | albert_kam | and then click on CEP |
| 08:31.03 | albert_kam | and then onto the jpg file |
| 08:34.19 | prashantkasbe | filebrowsing not available on the server :p |
| 08:34.46 | albert_kam | >.< |
| 08:34.49 | prashantkasbe | there is some servlet mappings for /CEP/* in web.xml...could that be any problem? |
| 08:35.11 | albert_kam | if firefox works, it shouldnt be any problem |
| 08:35.54 | prashantkasbe | nope...commenting them out didnt work either |
| 08:36.02 | prashantkasbe | and filebrowsing is working |
| 08:36.11 | prashantkasbe | it reufses to go into CEP folder |
| 08:38.20 | albert_kam | IE version ? |
| 08:39.46 | prashantkasbe | doesnt work on 6, works on 7 |
| 08:39.54 | prashantkasbe | could be a cookie problem? |
| 08:46.41 | prashantkasbe | CEP,cep,Cep dont work, "cep " "cep1" work |
| 08:47.25 | prashantkasbe | will this error be logged by tomcat's log4j ? |
| 08:48.10 | albert_kam | so it's a matter of case sensitivity i guess |
| 08:48.32 | albert_kam | i dont think this error will be logged in tomcat, as the request never really sent to tomcat. It already fails in IE. |
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| 16:16.36 | RobHu | I'm getting java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.io.FilePermission /foo/bar read) exceptions. I've tried tweaking the policy file for tomcat, but to no avail. Am I poking in the right place? |
| 16:16.52 | RobHu | This is in 5.0 |
| 16:40.38 | Oliber | that sounds like file system permissions |
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| 16:43.49 | RobHu | It wasn't |
| 16:43.55 | RobHu | I turned the security manager off and it worked |
| 16:44.06 | RobHu | It's the java.security.AccessControlException that gives it away |
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| 16:50.53 | darius12 | Tomcat: 5.5.25 Java: 1.5.0 OS: Debian Etch |
| 16:51.14 | darius12 | Is it possible to add a new Host in tomcat through JMX? |
| 16:51.37 | darius12 | something like StandardEngine.addChild() ? |
| 16:52.57 | darius12 | I tried this with jconsole but could not invoke the addChild operation (while start and stop worked) |
| 16:53.22 | darius12 | Maybe this is possible with a newer tomcat? |
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| 17:00.27 | darius12 | And the other interesting question would be: If this were possible, could the new Host be persisted in server.xml? |
| 17:37.27 | a4akba | yo |
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| 21:35.40 | arthur_kalm | Hi everyone, I'm trying to get Tomcat 5.0.39-9 to work on a development box that's running Ubuntu 6.06 Server with Java 1.6.0. Every time I launch tomcat it automatically dies without any error messages. |
| 21:35.56 | arthur_kalm | Here is what happens: arthur@mshlindev02:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/tomcat5 start |
| 21:35.57 | arthur_kalm | Starting Tomcat 5 servlet engine using Java from /usr/bin/java: arthur@mshlindev02:~$ |
| 21:36.28 | arthur_kalm | Any help would be greatly appreciated |
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| 22:45.46 | Administrator | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LPYPN5E5 |
