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| 00:04.52 | internat85 | *prods jasonb* |
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| 00:46.26 | qolo | anyone seen this error using struts^2+tiles2, java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.tiles.test.filter.SecurityWrappingFilter |
| 00:47.08 | qolo | wtf, thats not even in the jar |
| 00:48.15 | qolo | arggghhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 01:33.06 | replman | Hi! |
| 01:35.23 | replman | If i would like to start a growing, international web-project (like a sozial network) with tomcat and mysql, where should i start to find informations on what hardware (server, firewall, load-balancer, ...) do i need, how much bandwith etc.? |
| 01:44.40 | jasonb | Sounds like a great project. |
| 01:44.51 | jasonb | Open source, or commercial? |
| 01:51.18 | replman | jasonb: it's currently just a vague idea of a community :-) |
| 01:52.55 | jasonb | There are already communities.. in fact, too many. |
| 01:53.16 | jasonb | But, there aren't any open source webapps that do the social networking. |
| 01:53.27 | jasonb | (as far as I know) |
| 01:53.31 | jasonb | But, I'm sure many will grow. |
| 01:53.43 | jasonb | It's a very popular new internet fad. |
| 01:54.06 | jasonb | Or, maybe it's a term for a common set of web site features that should always have been there. |
| 01:54.51 | replman | I thought about what kind of hardware is needed for such networks. I somewhere read about 12 servers combined to clusters etc. And that's only for a german student community |
| 01:56.04 | jasonb | Well, it depends on whether it's being run on a scalable architecture or not, written for good performance or not, and how many people actually use it concurrently.. etc. |
| 01:56.30 | jasonb | 12 servers sounds a bit big, but it depends on the number of users and heavy features you're talking about. |
| 01:57.46 | replman | i don't know exactly how much users they have (www.studivz.de), but maybe some 100.000 |
| 01:58.21 | replman | it's very simple, just profiles, groups and pictures. |
| 01:58.58 | jasonb | If you consider that only a small percent of the entire user base will actually be online and making requests concurrently, like maybe 8% or something, that 100,000 users comes down to 8000. |
| 01:59.14 | replman | i also wondered that they need so much servers. That's the reason why i thougt about where to get informations on what kind of servers, how many, etc |
| 01:59.33 | jasonb | Then, out of 8000 that are logged in, only a small percent of those will be actually making HTTP requests to the server at the exact same time.. maybe 10%, or 800. |
| 01:59.59 | jasonb | So, with a user base of 100,000, your servers would only need to handle 800 concurrent HTTP requests. |
| 02:00.34 | jasonb | Depending on what hardware you get, it is possible for a couple of Tomcat machines to handle that load.. maybe plus one db server. |
| 02:00.50 | replman | So based on 800 concurrent requests, what's the hardware architecture behind? |
| 02:00.54 | jasonb | There are Quad core cpus out now. |
| 02:02.07 | jasonb | Our Tomcat book has some text about capacity planning. |
| 02:02.08 | replman | The question is then: where to know how much concurrent requests one tomcat instance can handle |
| 02:02.32 | jasonb | How much CPU time does a "request" take? |
| 02:02.37 | replman | that's exactly what i'm looking for |
| 02:02.54 | jasonb | How much CPU time a request takes depends on what needs to be done inside the request. |
| 02:03.03 | jasonb | So, not all requests take the same CPU time. |
| 02:03.16 | replman | of course |
| 02:03.21 | jasonb | And, how many any given CPU design could handle depends on how efficiently the request handler is written. |
| 02:03.31 | replman | but how to figure out how much % one request needs? |
| 02:03.44 | jasonb | So, there's no easy answer to the question: how many requests can a box handle? |
| 02:04.08 | replman | yes, that's right, i understand |
| 02:04.24 | jasonb | You would need to deploy the webapp on a machine and do some benchmarking (also covered in high detail in our Tomcat 6 book), and find out how many per second your box actually does handle. |
| 02:05.48 | jasonb | In case you want to read it, our book is Tomcat: The Definitive Guide, 2nd Edition (O'Reilly) |
| 02:06.35 | replman | i'm already searching on amazon |
| 02:06.47 | jasonb | Just search for "tomcat" and it's the one on top. :) |
| 02:07.06 | replman | ah, from "Jason Brittain" :-)( |
| 02:07.28 | jasonb | Yup. :) |
| 02:07.57 | jasonb | Lots of answers you're looking for are in there, or I wouldn't have mentioned it. |
| 02:08.43 | replman | That looks very interesting. I'm going to read it :-) |
| 02:09.06 | jasonb | Also, the chapter that contains the benchmarking info is the free chapter.. let me get the link for that. |
| 02:10.53 | replman | benchmarking is also very interesting. How to simulate 1000 diffenrent users? They all need an account (login/password) |
| 02:10.53 | jasonb | See the "Sample Chapter" link on this page: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596101060/ |
| 02:11.31 | jasonb | replman: Yeah, I did document that. I don't remember how much detail about form auth I have in there, but I did talk about cookies I believe. |
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| 02:22.56 | maja_ | any one here know if i can return the contents of a vilocity macro into a vilocity variable ? |
| 02:24.15 | jasonb | It's something like #set variableName = macroName() |
| 02:24.25 | jasonb | But, it's been a while. |
| 02:24.45 | replman | I read some pages of the sample chapter...looks really interesting. |
| 02:24.45 | replman | So you think for professional web-projects you setup a sample project with the basic features, do a load-test to figure out how much load one request does (on tomcat and on the mysql-db) and then calculate how much hardware you need. Then go to dell.com, buy such hardware, put it into a data-center, install the application and that's it? :-) |
| 02:24.45 | jasonb | I don't remember the exact syntax. But, it is documented on the velocity project page. |
| 02:25.18 | maja | jasonb: that is what i was thinking |
| 02:25.22 | maja | though i can't seem to get it working |
| 02:25.45 | maja | i though it would be #set $foo = bar($fobar) |
| 02:25.55 | jasonb | replman: Well, hopefully when you benchmark you can find out what takes the most time and do some performance improvement changes to the code first, and then re-benchmark.. and when you believe you have it performing well enough, then calculate what kind of hardware you think you need. |
| 02:26.30 | jasonb | replman: But, it's mostly like what you described. |
| 02:26.44 | replman | yes, i did the optimizing-step in my head :-) |
| 02:26.51 | maja | jasonb: my thing is how do i return from a function ? |
| 02:27.19 | jasonb | maja: This stuff is documented on the Velocity page, as I said. |
| 02:27.57 | maja | jasonb: ok |
| 02:28.02 | maja | been all over the site |
| 02:28.19 | jasonb | replman: When you benchmark, you won't be running what you'll finally be running in production, so the numbers won't end up being exact. In fact, they could be off by a big margin since you'll find other things that the code needs to do in addition to what it now does. |
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| 02:28.50 | jasonb | maja: Well, download some other open source velocity webapps like OpenEdit and look at their velocity pages.. you'll see how to do it. |
| 02:30.05 | maja | jasonb: ok yeah |
| 02:30.13 | replman | I also thought to add some % to the result of the sample result |
| 02:30.18 | maja | but it is defintly posiable ? |
| 02:30.28 | jasonb | maja: everything is possible. |
| 02:30.50 | jasonb | replman: Yes, might not be a bad idea.. but what %? :) |
| 02:31.01 | replman | hehe :-) |
| 02:31.22 | replman | I think that depends on how much the sample covers |
| 02:31.30 | jasonb | replman: Just buy bigger hardware than what you know you need.. that gives you a safety margin. But, you can always buy more machines if you need them. |
| 02:31.45 | jasonb | replman: Read my section on capacity planning.. might give you some more ideas. |
| 02:32.19 | replman | i didn't find that in the toc |
| 02:32.20 | maja | jasonb: hehe words to live by |
| 02:32.24 | replman | is it a subsection? |
| 02:32.37 | jasonb | It should be in the TOC. Let me see.. |
| 02:33.08 | jasonb | Ahh, it's also in Chapter 4.. lucky you. |
| 02:33.17 | replman | oh :-) |
| 02:33.19 | jasonb | It's toward the end of Ch 4. |
| 02:33.20 | replman | why did you made one of the most interested chapters for free? |
| 02:33.42 | jasonb | Well, I wanted the Tomcat versus Apache httpd benchmarks to be public information. :) |
| 02:33.57 | replman | hehe |
| 02:35.31 | replman | but of course, there are some other interesting chapters. Securing and Debugging is another important thing. |
| 02:35.40 | jasonb | Yep. |
| 02:36.45 | replman | andy the price is also more than fair :-) |
| 02:37.38 | replman | andy -> and |
| 02:41.06 | replman | jasonb: It was very informative to talk with you. I'm going to read your book. It's 3:30am here, so for me it's time to sleep over that :-) Thank you!!! |
| 02:43.03 | jasonb | replman: Oh, you're quite welcome. |
| 02:43.11 | jasonb | replman: I hope it helps. |
| 02:43.17 | jasonb | replman: Get some sleep. |
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| 11:33.54 | angelete | hi |
| 11:33.59 | angelete | i have a little doubt |
| 11:34.07 | angelete | i'v just installed tomcat 6 |
| 11:34.18 | angelete | and when i run startup.sh it works fine |
| 11:34.28 | angelete | but with netstat -altn shows |
| 11:34.38 | angelete | tomcat is attached to 127.0.0.1 |
| 11:34.44 | angelete | so i cannot access it |
| 11:34.50 | angelete | what i'm doing wrong? |
| 11:41.30 | angelete | my tomcat version is 6.0.14 |
| 11:55.22 | angelete | really i've senn tomcat is attached to ::FFFF:127.0.0.1 |
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| 12:23.20 | larsivi | I have tomcat 6.0.14 in the back serving hudson (Java 6), and apache 2.2.6 in front as a proxy - however proxying using ajp:// leads to http://paste.dprogramming.com/dps7863l on the apache side |
| 12:34.56 | larsivi | I can't see any relevant messages in the tomcat log, but it may be me failing to set up logging correctly |
| 12:36.15 | larsivi | hmm, suppose I should ask in #apache first |
| 12:40.18 | larsivi | apparently this is the correct place to ask :) |
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| 12:41.49 | Felipe_MP | Good Morning... |
| 13:06.36 | larsivi | please disregard my previous question |
| 13:07.12 | larsivi | however, how can I have urls in the ajp header rewritten by apache mod_proxy/mod_proxy_ajp etc? |
| 13:17.44 | larsivi | I believe the problem is when an action leads to a redirect to some other page on the webapp - the returned page don't have it's header urls rewritten |
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| 14:20.21 | qolo | larsivi ! |
| 14:20.28 | larsivi | qolo! |
| 14:20.31 | qolo | :) |
| 14:20.46 | larsivi | qolo: you surely can answer my question :P |
| 14:21.01 | qolo | hehe doubtful, I just got here yesterday with questions |
| 14:21.25 | qolo | ~ajp |
| 14:21.26 | ibot | methinks ajp is annie jane pinder, see angel |
| 14:26.44 | larsivi | well, I don't have to use tomcat here, at least not now - so I think I should be able to workaround it |
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| 14:28.09 | qolo | what is ajp ? |
| 14:28.53 | qolo | ahh |
| 14:29.05 | qolo | i have used mod_jk in the past with limited success |
| 14:32.15 | replman | Hi! I have a problem with my login-servlet and the Apache JMeter (the Problem is also sometimes with IE). In my login-servlet i instanciate a User-Object and write it to the session (User user = new User(); session.setAttribute("user", user);). Then i do a response.sendRedirect(response.encodeRedirectURL("UserPage"));. When i make a TestPlan in JMeter and aat the HTTP-Request i say "Redirect Automatically", I always get a new Sessi |
| 14:32.15 | replman | nn i say "Follow Redirects" everything works. It's sometimes the same with ie. |
| 14:32.23 | larsivi | most of it works, but not when an action (button click) results in a redirect to a different page in the webapp (in this case a page created by clicking the button) |
| 14:39.13 | larsivi | qolo: I'll be happy when you rewrite all this stuff in D using Tango :) |
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| 14:46.06 | replman | seems to be a cookie problem, but i don't know why |
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| 15:11.00 | gilles_ | hi |
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| 16:06.59 | qolo | pfn: you up ? |
| 16:07.02 | qolo | ~seen pfn |
| 16:07.04 | ibot | pfn is currently on #asterisk #tomcat. Has said a total of 243 messages. Is idling for 16h 41m 5s, last said: 'eclipse does completion and has xsd docs, I think'. |
| 16:09.16 | a4akb | ibot pfn |
| 16:09.28 | a4akb | ibot a4akb |
| 16:09.29 | ibot | i guess a4akb is a spammer |
| 16:09.41 | a4akb | ibot forget a4akb |
| 16:09.41 | ibot | i forgot a4akb, a4akb |
| 16:09.46 | a4akb | ibot a4akb |
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| 16:35.01 | yassine | ibot a4akb is a bot master ;) |
| 16:35.02 | ibot | okay, yassine |
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| 16:35.19 | yassine | ibot: a4akb |
| 16:35.20 | ibot | rumour has it, a4akb is a bot master ;) |
| 16:35.40 | yassine | ibot: you're a good boy |
| 16:35.40 | ibot | aw, gee, yassine |
| 16:35.43 | a4akb | yassine: hola |
| 16:35.52 | yassine | hi a4akb |
| 16:36.00 | a4akb | how you been |
| 16:36.28 | yassine | fine fine just around |
| 16:36.36 | a4akb | cool |
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| 17:01.42 | djaquay | i see that it's supposed to go to catalina.out, but mine stays empty; tc logs go to /var/log/tomcat5.5/catalina.<date>.log, my log4j output goes where log4j.properties puts it, but I'm not finding System.out output |
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| 17:56.56 | acidjnk | hello |
| 17:56.58 | acidjnk | Jason! |
| 17:57.03 | acidjnk | jasonb! |
| 17:57.31 | acidjnk | I ordered your book months ago, and now Amazon sais that there will be another delay of a couple of weeks! |
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| 18:10.30 | a4akb | acidjnk: orielly has a buy 2 get 1 free offer right now |
| 18:10.43 | jasonb | acidjnk: I don't work for Amazon, so I can't tell you why they're delaying it more.. But, I just got my very first print copy of it last friday! So, I can imagine that stores will get it a little after I do. |
| 18:11.04 | acidjnk | ah |
| 18:11.31 | acidjnk | Are you satisfied with it? errata and all? |
| 18:11.54 | acidjnk | thx a4akb |
| 18:12.13 | jasonb | Yes, actually, it looks better than I was hoping it would look. :) |
| 18:12.42 | acidjnk | good, looking forward to it. Currently I work a lot with Tomcat again. At other times it is mostly Glassfish. |
| 18:14.50 | jasonb | Well, it should help you somewhat with both. |
| 18:15.02 | jasonb | But, it has excellent coverage of Tomcat 6.0, and even of 5.5. |
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| 18:24.07 | donaldo | anyone here have experience with Hibernate? i can't seem to find a definitive answer on the web to this question: are "?" parameters in HQL queries protected against SQL injection? |
| 18:25.31 | jasonb | I believe they are. |
| 18:26.40 | donaldo | jasonb, well it would certainly make sense |
| 18:26.58 | donaldo | jasonb, but the developer who worked here before me wrote his own layer in several places to protect against SQL injection |
| 18:27.02 | donaldo | jasonb, so i'm having doubts |
| 18:27.32 | jasonb | That was probably an unnecessary layer.. unless he looked at the Hibernate code and concluded they weren't doing enough, but how clever was that guy? :) |
| 18:27.45 | donaldo | jasonb, i'm glad you asked |
| 18:28.27 | donaldo | if((usernameCheck.indexOf("insert") != -1) || (usernameCheck.indexOf("update") != -1) || (usernameCheck.indexOf("delete") != -1) || (usernameCheck.indexOf("select") != -1) || (usernameCheck.indexOf("drop") != -1) || (passwordCheck.indexOf("insert") != -1) || (passwordCheck.indexOf("update") != -1) || (passwordCheck.indexOf("delete") != -1) || (passwordCheck.indexOf("select") != -1)|| (passwordCheck.indexOf("drop") != -1)) { |
| 18:28.46 | donaldo | clearly very clever |
| 18:29.17 | jasonb | :) |
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| 18:36.06 | pfn | nice way to try to prevent sql injection.... not |
| 18:36.29 | pfn | ? parameters are protected from sql injection |
| 18:36.33 | pfn | they use preparedstatements |
| 18:36.48 | pfn | which depending on jdbc driver/rdbms combination, are immune to sql injection |
| 18:37.10 | pfn | I don't think there's any jdbc driver that doesn't handle preparedstatements correctly |
| 18:37.40 | jasonb | All true. :) |
| 18:38.09 | jasonb | Other higher layers could try to do more, but there isn't much more to do. |
| 18:39.29 | donaldo | well yes i kept reading online "hibernate uses prepared statements!" but |
| 18:39.47 | donaldo | i didn't see anyone say anything like "hibernate *only* uses prepared statements" |
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| 18:40.01 | donaldo | god damn ^W |
| 18:40.40 | donaldo | and generally the same people would not make a point to note that developers could still circumvent hibernate's usage of prepared statements by assembling querystrings themselves |
| 18:43.58 | pfn | yes, developers can fall into a trap of concatenating queries together and assuming hibernate will fix them |
| 18:44.01 | pfn | that, of course, is wrong |
| 18:46.12 | donaldo | heh |
| 18:52.18 | Max_- | I might need some advices about the /srv dir... I thought I might, at first, have the following dirs : /srv/www/httpd, /srv/www/tomcat/, /srv/mysql. Is that how this dir is supposed to be used? Also, browsing around, I saw some people put many other files than those really served, like conf files or it even looked for some like they installed apache and mysql in those dirs... I don't think that's good. |
| 18:52.54 | pfn | never heard of /srv |
| 18:53.04 | pfn | sounds like some kooky thing your distribution is doing |
| 18:53.18 | Max_- | no, it's in the FHS |
| 18:53.25 | pfn | FHS? |
| 18:53.30 | jasonb | kooky thing! |
| 18:53.40 | jasonb | FHS = kooky for sure. :) |
| 18:53.48 | Max_- | filesystem hierarchy structure or something like that |
| 18:53.53 | Max_- | lol |
| 18:54.05 | pfn | never heard of it |
| 18:54.07 | Max_- | I think it's ± new |
| 18:54.08 | pfn | must be debian |
| 18:54.10 | Max_- | no |
| 18:54.33 | Max_- | FHS is not for a distro.. it's a standard |
| 18:55.03 | Max_- | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
| 18:55.33 | pfn | do what you want |
| 18:55.39 | Max_- | lol |
| 18:55.58 | pfn | if it doesn't work, have fun |
| 18:55.59 | pfn | fixing it |
| 18:56.12 | Max_- | I will |
| 18:57.20 | Max_- | I think it's nice.. since you can have a virtual drive for /srv and secure even more that part.. or optimize it for reading... it allows you to make backup of all webapplications and databases very fast too... |
| 18:57.32 | Max_- | IMO, that can be a good tool |
| 18:57.41 | Max_- | anyway... I thought I might try to use it this time |
| 18:59.25 | pfn | you can do that with any filesystem path |
| 18:59.47 | Max_- | yea, but that's the standard way to do it |
| 18:59.50 | pfn | and database backups often aren't just simple copy ops |
| 19:00.00 | Max_- | I know that too, but still |
| 19:14.23 | djaquay | (tomcat 5.5.25, java-5, ubuntu gutsy) how do i get println()'s to go to the logs, like 5.0 does? |
| 19:20.28 | djaquay | i think i've finally managed to get log4 configured to get its output into /var/log/tomcat5.5, but i'm still missing my println's |
| 19:20.51 | djaquay | (and believe me, nothing would please me more than to get Boss to let me convert it all to log4j...) |
| 19:26.03 | donaldo | using Tomcat 5.0 on windows, if i replace a single class file in my webapp, will Tomcat update to use the new version? |
| 19:31.09 | pfn | it'll redeploy the app |
| 19:31.16 | pfn | I don't think tomcat will do single-class hotswap |
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| 19:38.51 | a4akb | Tomcat 6.0 rocks! |
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| 19:45.21 | donaldo | more fun hibernate questions: is there hibernate session class that will clean itself up after it goes out of scope? |
| 19:46.12 | traza | Hi |
| 19:46.31 | a4akb | Hi |
| 19:46.47 | traza | Can somebody help... Im running tomcat5.5 all ready, is "working" |
| 19:46.59 | donaldo | lol |
| 19:47.03 | donaldo | that's quite a problem you have there, traza |
| 19:47.05 | a4akb | donaldo: most db don't know how to wipe their own bottoms |
| 19:47.10 | barnum | yeah probably use kill to fix it |
| 19:47.11 | barnum | hehe |
| 19:47.14 | traza | Is running as a front-end for apache |
| 19:47.39 | donaldo | traza: no, tomcat doesn't delegate to apache. many, however, configure it the other way around. |
| 19:47.57 | donaldo | traza: you COULD make tomcat delegate to apache, but it would be pointless |
| 19:48.07 | pfn | donaldo, you should not depend on gc for cleaning up non-memory resources |
| 19:48.30 | traza | donaldo, :p But... when I include "sites" JkMount... |
| 19:49.38 | traza | donaldo, My problem is running sites... (jsp) |
| 19:49.46 | donaldo | in C++ or Python or Javascript, resource locks can be released when the variable representing the lock goes out of scope, it's very convenient, many fewer errors this way |
| 19:50.17 | donaldo | and shorter/cleaner code |
| 19:50.19 | traza | donaldo, have u ever try that before, right? |
| 19:51.03 | donaldo | traza: sure, but i've never done apache or tomcat configuration. i've written servlets, that's it. someone else has always been in charge of that part |
| 19:51.38 | donaldo | traza: it will probably be a better use of your time to not direct your questions directly at me for this reason. but i'll interject if i know something ;) |
| 19:51.40 | pfn | donaldo, java does not have the concept of "automatic" variables in that sense |
| 19:51.53 | pfn | donaldo, the object will eventually get gc'd, but not necessarily immediately once out of scope |
| 19:52.04 | donaldo | pfn: yeah i know... oh well |
| 19:52.05 | traza | has somebody use mod_jk (jk on debian) and work with tomcat as a apache front-end? |
| 19:52.11 | traza | donaldo, tnx anyway |
| 19:53.43 | traza | is there another channel for tomcat? |
| 19:54.52 | pfn | mailing list |
| 19:58.01 | donaldo | traza: it's possible that no one is sure what you're asking |
| 19:58.20 | donaldo | traza: for instance the term "front-end" refers generally to parts *closer* to the end-user, not further away |
| 19:58.52 | traza | donaldo, maybe... but Im just saying if someone try before tomcat as a apache front-end.. |
| 19:59.07 | donaldo | traza: typical tomcat usuage for web applications looks like this: tomcat > apache > browser > user |
| 19:59.26 | traza | donaldo, some who has try before probably knows what talking about. |
| 19:59.31 | donaldo | traza: the "front end" there would be the browser, or the interface generated by the web application if you want to go a different route |
| 19:59.51 | dvayanu | traza: being arrogant wont help you get the answer |
| 19:59.53 | donaldo | traza: so are you suggesting instead something like this? apache > tomcat > browser > user? |
| 20:00.26 | traza | dvayanu, Im sorry.. is not about arrogant..... |
| 20:00.29 | donaldo | traza: because that's the most sense i can make of it, and i suspect that's what most people will think when you say "front-end for apache" |
| 20:00.47 | donaldo | traza: do you perhaps mean a web-based administration interface? |
| 20:00.53 | traza | dvayanu, donaldo is about... "I've done that before".. "I didnt" |
| 20:01.05 | dvayanu | traza: can you refine your question? |
| 20:02.37 | traza | dvayanu, well... I have tomcat5.5 and apache2.2 running "together" (mod_jk) |
| 20:02.53 | traza | dvayanu, the jsp-examples are working... |
| 20:02.59 | dvayanu | yes |
| 20:03.14 | traza | So.... I guess in someway is "fine"... |
| 20:03.50 | dvayanu | buddy, dr. house starts in 10 minutes and i have to smoke one before, so please try to be faster :-) |
| 20:03.54 | traza | I have like 7 sites (jsp based)... and, they are not working. |
| 20:04.01 | dvayanu | virtual hosts? |
| 20:04.05 | traza | dvayanu, no. |
| 20:04.24 | donaldo | i'll be lucky if i can burn one between fighting Verizon DSL to download it fast enough :P |
| 20:04.27 | dvayanu | define sites |
| 20:04.32 | donaldo | oh |
| 20:04.42 | donaldo | traza: do you mean you'd like to delegate ALL URLs through Tomcat? |
| 20:05.07 | traza | donaldo, no.. I mena /../../tomcat5.5/webappa/my-site |
| 20:05.18 | dvayanu | thats stupid |
| 20:05.27 | donaldo | traza: traza that shouldn't be a valid HTTP resource when accessing apache |
| 20:05.29 | dvayanu | you do not refer to webapps as pathes |
| 20:05.48 | dvayanu | you can easily map vhosts to webapps |
| 20:06.17 | traza | ok.. |
| 20:06.47 | dvayanu | or you can map a webserver path to tomcat webapp |
| 20:07.15 | donaldo | dvayanu: i have yet to address the issue of the site i'm working on now where every URL begins with /app/ |
| 20:07.34 | dvayanu | like xyz.es/site1 -> tomcat/siteA which means that siteA is under webapps (not necessary though) |
| 20:07.50 | traza | :S |
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| 20:08.14 | traza | well.. thats not the problem... |
| 20:08.16 | dvayanu | donaldo: and the issue is? |
| 20:09.00 | traza | Ok, before.. with tomcat 4 and apache2 I had to config a couple of things is web.xml (or server.xml i forgot)... |
| 20:09.12 | dvayanu | ok, traza, know what, if you really want to get some help read this first please: |
| 20:09.16 | dvayanu | http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 20:09.21 | donaldo | dvayanu: i started a couple weeks ago, just about finished figuring out how everything is laid out, just thought it was funny that they haven't done it in four years |
| 20:09.27 | traza | But I had to do a somethings in the tomcat directory. |
| 20:09.48 | traza | r now... in debian.. I have to do almost nothing! |
| 20:10.09 | traza | and.. all the places I've been looking for.... the same config. |
| 20:10.39 | traza | So, I dont know if Im missing something.. but I try a couple of things.. |
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| 20:10.59 | traza | The database manager driver is fine.. |
| 20:11.20 | traza | I rebuild the java conections.. .java -> .class.. |
| 20:13.14 | Silviana | i am trying to migrate an aplication from a old server to another |
| 20:13.44 | Silviana | all seens work unless mysql connections |
| 20:14.08 | traza | dvayanu, ... god!.. you are telling me that I should read "how to ask". |
| 20:16.34 | traza | dvayanu, I think... you probably right. I should not spend my time in a tomcat channel where nobody has made a mod_jk config. |
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| 20:42.25 | donaldo | horay, apparently more bungling from my predecessor.. apparently hibernate *does* generate tables for you |
| 20:42.39 | donaldo | according to him you *had* to do it yourself |
| 20:43.49 | pfn | I don't like orm generated schema |
| 20:43.54 | pfn | I prefer my own schema |
| 20:44.31 | djaquay | so does everyone else get println() output written to their catalina.out logfile? esp. under linux? |
| 20:45.12 | djaquay | and i'm the only missing my stdout output under 5.5? |
| 20:46.49 | qolo | djaquay: i had that problem, did you copy over a sample and try to modify it ? |
| 20:47.34 | qolo | see #tomcat, im not the only one with that problem :P |
| 20:47.40 | djaquay | qolo: no, i've upgraded my app from tomcat 5.0, and lost 4/5ths of my log output (the stdout stuff) |
| 20:48.02 | qolo | hmm, nm then ;) |
| 20:48.04 | djaquay | you were feeling lonely too, eh? |
| 20:48.05 | pfn | I get System.out.println logged to catalina.out just fine |
| 20:48.11 | pfn | it's usually a problem of install a distribution package |
| 20:48.16 | pfn | rather than the apache bindist of tomcat |
| 20:48.20 | djaquay | i'm thinking it might be an ubuntu problem |
| 20:48.47 | djaquay | once upon a time, catalina.out was a pipe (that got logrotated, i think) |
| 20:49.03 | djaquay | i think i'll go bug the ubuntuforums |
| 20:49.17 | djaquay | qolo, pfn: thanks |
| 20:51.02 | pfn | change catalina.out to a normal file and restart tomcat |
| 20:51.05 | pfn | you should have logging again |
| 20:58.21 | djaquay | pfn: did that a long time ago, owned by tomcat55/nogroup, perms rw, r, r |
| 20:58.38 | djaquay | pfn: in fact, that was what got it working for me under 5.0, iirc |
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| 21:07.43 | Azoff | good evning |
| 21:08.11 | Azoff | I have just installed tomcat 5.5 on a debian etch host. |
| 21:08.33 | Azoff | I can successfully start tomcat and view one of my webapps, but I can't reload it |
| 21:08.54 | Azoff | the manager tells me that the reload gave success, but nothing happens |
| 21:09.03 | Azoff | any ideas on what could be wrong? |
| 21:10.00 | Azoff | btw, it's java 1.5 and there's nothing useful in the logs |
| 21:14.42 | dogmeat | where can i find the source for org.apache.catalina.core ? |
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| 21:30.17 | Todd | I hope this is an easy question.... I am using Tomcat 6.0.14 / Java 6 / and am running Linux (Ubuntu 7.10). All of my |
| 21:30.34 | Todd | Tomcat logs are in GMT timezone... is there any way to change this? |
| 21:34.38 | Todd | By the way, I am newbie to both Linux and Tomcat... I have found a few sites that say to update or create the CATALINA_OPTS environment variable, but I have no idea how to do this... if someone could point me in the direction of some decent instructions it would be much appreciated! Thanks! |
| 21:37.52 | Azoff | Todd: in Ubuntu, I guess, that you could change those options in /etc/default/tomcat* |
| 21:42.10 | Todd | Azoff - thanks for the help, but like I said, I am a real newbie... how do I change the options in that? I tried to find the file and use gedit, but I can't find anything called tomcat in the /etc/default/ location |
| 21:42.34 | Azoff | Todd: how did you install tomcat? |
| 21:42.37 | Azoff | using a .deb package? |
| 21:44.38 | Todd | i installed from the tar.gz package |
| 21:44.46 | Azoff | ah, ok... |
| 21:44.53 | Azoff | how do you start tomcat now? |
| 21:46.58 | Azoff | Todd? |
| 21:47.38 | Todd | i start it with a script i found online that starts it when i boot Ubuntu |
| 21:48.05 | Azoff | then you should edit that script to include your new CATALINA_OPTS env. var |
| 21:48.17 | Todd | if you look at this site in the Ubuntu forums, I wrote instructions for how I did it (since I had trouble finding some of the info): |
| 21:48.26 | Todd | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=597719&highlight=tomcat&page=2 |
| 21:49.21 | Azoff | Todd: ok |
| 21:51.01 | Azoff | Todd: I think you should change that script |
| 21:51.55 | Todd | OK. It is just something i found when looking how to install Tomcat. If you have any suggestions that would be great! |
| 22:00.04 | Todd | Azoff? You still there? |
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| 22:07.08 | Azoff | yes |
| 22:07.19 | Azoff | but I have to go to sleep any min. now |
| 22:08.29 | Todd | do you have a suggestion on how to change the script so my timezone works correctly? |
| 22:09.36 | Azoff | I am new to tomcat, so, no... I have no idea how to fix that. But if you need to set some vars, you should do it in the startup.sh-script or something like that |
| 22:10.18 | Todd | ok. Thank you for your help. I will try to do more research! |
| 22:11.02 | Azoff | do so |
| 22:11.07 | Azoff | 'night |
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| 22:27.14 | zerok | hi :-) i have a small problem with Runtime.getRuntime().exec on Gentoo with java 1.5.0_13 and tomcat 6.0.14: for some reason when i start for example ffmpeg or mencoder through this interface, the process doesn't really start but seems to sleep right away :-/ any idea, what could cause this? |
| 22:28.15 | zerok | ( <- tomcat and java-webdev n00b) |
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| 22:44.22 | zerok | thanks :-) I was just too stupid for it ;-) ffmpeg asks if it should overwrite a file instead of just doing it ;-) |
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| 23:45.15 | DiMMaN | hi i'm using TC 5.5.17, jdk 1.5.0.09 and windows XP pro. i have an webpp that has many catalogs. my problem is that i cant call servlets outside the "main" catalog of my webap:/ can it be fixed? |