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| 04:48.17 | xai | Java=j2sdk1.4.2_09, Tomcat=5.0, OS=Centos3.3, : I'm trying to run tomcat as a normal user, I changed ownership of all files to tomcat, and can easily start it as regular user. However I can't ever stop tomcat without doing "killall java" or similar. I get this exception near top: Catalina.stop: java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused |
| 04:49.21 | xai | I can't find any reason why it wont stop. I use this script to stop it: su -l $TOMCAT_USER -c '/home/tomcat/tomcat5/bin/catalina.sh stop' |
| 04:50.53 | xai | This seems like a common problem when things are not configured quite right. |
| 04:52.32 | jasonb | xai: If you use my Tomcat RPM package, it has reliable stop and restart functions in its init script. |
| 04:52.56 | jasonb | xai: Why the stock stop script doesn't really work properly and reliably is a long story. |
| 04:54.02 | xai | ok.. I had to change the catalina.sh option from "run" to "start" and that seems to start everything ok.. I'll take a look at your script. |
| 04:54.48 | xai | which archive do I find your rpm? |
| 04:55.36 | jasonb | It's not just a script, you have to use the whole RPM (or do some rewriting of the init script, which is not trivial). |
| 04:56.21 | xai | ok.. |
| 04:56.34 | jasonb | My RPMs are here: http://www.webdroid.org:8080/archives/tomcat-package |
| 04:57.26 | jasonb | If you are already using a "tomcat5" or "tomcat55" rpm installation that came with your OS, then mine will co-exist with it just fine as long as you don't try to run both at the same time on the same port numbers. |
| 04:57.57 | jasonb | Also, mine is a fully-relocatable package. |
| 04:59.01 | xai | jasonb: these guys (eclincalworks) installed it from some other source. not sure where. |
| 04:59.54 | jasonb | xai: Okay, well then it's likely easy to shut down, and then install this RPM and try it. If you don't like mine for whatever reason, all you do to get rid of it is "rpm -e tomcat" and it's gone. |
| 05:00.31 | jasonb | xai: My Tomcat RPM package is named "tomcat" unlike the others, which are named "tomcat5" or "tomcat55". |
| 05:00.31 | xai | They use this ancient version: of tomcat5 $Id: RELEASE-NOTES,v 1.18 2004/06/15 18:42:06 yoavs Exp $ |
| 05:00.44 | jasonb | Tomcat 5.0 is quite old now. |
| 05:00.54 | jasonb | I have RPM packages of Tomcat 6.0. |
| 05:01.04 | jasonb | .. but I also have older versions in there. |
| 05:01.28 | xai | Working with these guys is a nightmare.. They use really outdated versions of stuff, make common changes (errors) as root. |
| 05:01.35 | xai | Thanks for your help. |
| 05:01.45 | jasonb | You're welcome. |
| 05:01.56 | jasonb | I assume you know how to install RPM packages? |
| 05:04.11 | xai | ya... |
| 05:06.07 | jasonb | Okay, good. |
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| 08:11.10 | Internat85 | *prods jasonb* wats the pre order link for you book? |
| 08:12.25 | lyken | dude he's asleep |
| 08:12.32 | Internat85 | pfft |
| 08:12.35 | Internat85 | no excuse |
| 08:12.57 | Internat | i really should put timestamps back on |
| 08:16.27 | Internat | http://www.amazon.com/Tomcat-Definitive-Guide-Jason-Brittain/dp/0596101066 <== that the one lyken? |
| 08:17.17 | lyken | thats the first edition |
| 08:17.50 | Internat | oh.. hmms |
| 08:18.09 | Internat | (Paperback - Oct 15, 2007) |
| 08:18.16 | Internat | it says not til 15 oct 2007? |
| 08:19.47 | lyken | i htikn thats right |
| 08:20.02 | Internat | meh i can wait til he is awake :) |
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| 08:27.08 | lyken | well its not even on the upcoming list of books |
| 08:27.09 | lyken | so who knows |
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| 11:04.09 | InsomniaCity | Are there any databases I can just drop into my tomcat and use JDBC on? |
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| 13:14.47 | chrisjw | what do you mean drop into :S |
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| 14:22.34 | InsomniaCity | Also, is there any way I can debug apps running on my Tomcat 5.5.23 using Eclipse? |
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| 14:38.14 | Emiml | InsomniaCity: check HSQLDB, or apache-derby |
| 14:43.11 | InsomniaCity | yeah, decided on hsqldb in the end. thanks :) |
| 14:45.18 | InsomniaCity | So - is that remote debugging possible? |
| 14:47.23 | Emiml | InsomniaCity: it seems to be second question from tomcat FAQ http://tomcat.apache.org/faq/development.html#rd-eclipse |
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| 14:48.45 | InsomniaCity | Yeah, see, I tried that before asking :) |
| 14:49.00 | InsomniaCity | "Failed to connect to remote VM. Connection refused." |
| 14:49.51 | Thorn | hello. tomcat 6.0.13, java 1.6.0_01, fedora 7. I'm developing a web app with a DBCP managed data source. There's a large number of database connections from this app (53 right now). Looks like a new connection is established every time the app is redeployed, and old ones are never closed. DBCP is configured with maxIdle="2" maxActive="8" |
| 14:50.29 | Thorn | Is there a way to configure it e.g. to close all connections when the web application is undeployed? |
| 14:50.31 | dvayanu | tried to explicitely shutdown connections in a context listener? |
| 14:51.15 | Thorn | dvayanu: was that for me? |
| 14:52.25 | dvayanu | yes |
| 14:53.26 | Thorn | dvayanu: googling for it now |
| 14:53.50 | dvayanu | googleing for what? ContextListener? |
| 14:53.58 | InsomniaCity | Emiml: So how can I configure my Tomcat to open that port for debugging? |
| 14:54.03 | Thorn | yes |
| 14:54.43 | dvayanu | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.45 | Emiml | InsomniaCity: I don't know. I have never done that before. It was just first link from google :-P |
| 14:55.17 | dvayanu | you can configure it in web.xml |
| 14:55.39 | dvayanu | it will be called upon initialization and destruction, in the later case you can shutdown everything you want/need to shutdown |
| 14:55.56 | Thorn | yeah I've found some good examples |
| 14:56.12 | Thorn | is it only needed with Apache DBCP? or is it a general problem? |
| 14:56.27 | dvayanu | reloading is a general problem :-) |
| 15:00.27 | Thorn | can removeAbandoned attribute help here by any chance? |
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| 15:01.10 | a4akb | Hi all. |
| 15:02.00 | Thorn | ok that's a starting point, thanks much for the hint dvayanu |
| 15:03.11 | dvayanu | you'r ewelcome |
| 15:04.55 | a4akb | dvayanu: hi |
| 15:06.19 | dvayanu | hi |
| 15:10.28 | a4akb | how s it going |
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| 16:32.03 | jasonb | Internat: http://www.amazon.com/Tomcat-Definitive-Guide-Jason-Brittain/dp/0596101066/sr=8-2/qid=1157643303/ref=sr_1_2/302-9273375-3704041?ie=UTF8&s=gateway |
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| 18:51.54 | JasonA | lalalalalalalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 18:52.55 | a4akb | hmmm |
| 18:54.35 | JasonA | jasonb Hi. Are you the real jasonb of tomcat? |
| 18:56.00 | jwisher | F7? :S |
| 18:57.03 | JasonA | Fedora7 |
| 18:58.14 | jwisher | rhl :( |
| 18:58.50 | JasonA | yip |
| 18:58.50 | JasonA | why the happy face? |
| 18:59.39 | JasonA | It is on par with Vista graphics wise and performance wise like any other Linux box |
| 19:00.01 | jwisher | I just don't see its purpose in life |
| 19:00.21 | JasonA | =-o:-! |
| 19:00.38 | JasonA | it is like brail for the blind |
| 19:00.47 | jwisher | what about debian |
| 19:00.52 | JasonA | see those little dots u can feel on every elevator? |
| 19:01.04 | JasonA | F7 is that to non linux users |
| 19:01.17 | JasonA | debian? u mean dvayanu? |
| 19:01.26 | jwisher | well ubuntu could be that too |
| 19:01.37 | jwisher | probably do a lot better at it as well |
| 19:01.49 | JasonA | never knew dvayanu was called debian |
| 19:02.00 | jwisher | what do you mean dvayanu |
| 19:02.24 | JasonA | its like asking why firefox, why IE, why opra, why netscape? |
| 19:02.39 | jwisher | well firefox would be the obvious one that deserves to exist |
| 19:03.05 | JasonA | lol |
| 19:03.19 | JasonA | ack! 157 package updates available |
| 19:03.43 | jwisher | so what inspired the sudden f7 urge |
| 19:04.01 | JasonA | rush of blood to the head/coldplay |
| 19:04.22 | JasonA | well the 'core' is gone, it was inspirational enough |
| 19:04.38 | JasonA | now that its no longer a beta tita gama lambda |
| 19:06.33 | JasonA | and ofcourse some cool reviews |
| 19:06.54 | JasonA | i like this purple parrot thingy |
| 19:08.09 | JasonA | jwisher: Does debian has a UI version linux? |
| 19:08.32 | jwisher | you mean x? |
| 19:09.00 | jwisher | of course it can run x |
| 19:09.11 | JasonA | i dont know what X is? I never used debian. |
| 19:09.19 | jwisher | x windows, xfree86, w/e |
| 19:09.37 | jwisher | it is the UI that almost all linux distros use |
| 19:09.43 | jwisher | GUI rather |
| 19:09.44 | JasonA | ok |
| 19:09.58 | JasonA | so itslike a UI |
| 19:10.36 | jwisher | well nearly any distro can run a gui if you want it to |
| 19:10.52 | JasonA | indeed |
| 19:11.01 | JasonA | jwisher: r u a student |
| 19:11.08 | jwisher | i was but i quit |
| 19:11.45 | JasonA | in other words evicted :'( |
| 19:12.16 | jwisher | no just too much adacemic skills for computing and project management, not enough development |
| 19:12.16 | jwisher | I went to uni thinking yo yo yo think will pwn but it was just bad |
| 19:12.30 | JasonA | yoyoyoyoyoyo check this out huh? |
| 19:12.51 | jwisher | I don't care for gant charts and all sorts of other kinds of charts and business reports that don't make any sense |
| 19:13.00 | jwisher | I just wanted to program and dba, but no |
| 19:13.03 | JasonA | indeed |
| 19:13.16 | JasonA | nor those high profile S curves and Dashboard reporting |
| 19:13.19 | JasonA | :D |
| 19:13.40 | jwisher | :S |
| 19:13.56 | JasonA | my boss taught me one thing |
| 19:14.00 | JasonA | he said: |
| 19:14.19 | JasonA | There is a wish list of items you wish that can be done... |
| 19:14.33 | JasonA | Then there is the actual list the software can do for you. |
| 19:15.16 | JasonA | If you try to incorporate your wish list into the software, the software is no longer stable and looses its basic purpose to be simplistic and realistic |
| 19:16.01 | JasonA | He told me this loads of times when I worked with him, I used to play with my life n come up with complicated reports that many thought isnt possible. He used to be like: |
| 19:16.17 | jwisher | thats why software developers exist... |
| 19:16.39 | JasonA | "you are going and proving it is possible, their wish list will never end and in the end you will crash when you wont be able to deliver" |
| 19:17.00 | JasonA | no they dont exist for mindless directionless illogical coding |
| 19:17.41 | JasonA | you can build a reverse pyramid topology at the risk of stability |
| 19:18.09 | JasonA | and for real time projects, stability matters more |
| 19:18.33 | JasonA | its like running tomcat and apache together just to prove that it can be done |
| 19:18.46 | jwisher | well i would rather run tomcat and lighttpd together |
| 19:19.12 | JasonA | tomcat is better off running alone |
| 19:19.33 | JasonA | as you will see the statistics in future publications |
| 19:19.49 | jwisher | I have read it is faster running alone |
| 19:19.56 | jwisher | but if you want the features of another webserver... |
| 19:20.00 | JasonA | loads faster |
| 19:20.04 | JasonA | better memory management |
| 19:20.17 | JasonA | and more secure |
| 19:20.44 | JasonA | it has come a full cycle n can challenge most if not all commercial webservers |
| 19:21.09 | JasonA | tomcat and jasonb r the best. Yo! |
| 19:21.09 | jwisher | it lacks a lot of things |
| 19:21.24 | jwisher | well i don't know jasonb but he is very helpful |
| 19:21.32 | JasonA | like i said jwisher, the wishlist need not necessarily be your actual list |
| 19:21.58 | JasonA | Jasonb is homie jedi |
| 19:23.46 | JasonA | he has dedicated 6years of his undivided attention and all his spare time to/for tomcat |
| 19:25.06 | jwisher | what do you mean exactly |
| 19:25.13 | jwisher | is he one of the developers |
| 19:25.31 | dvayanu | [21:03] <JasonA> debian? u mean dvayanu? |
| 19:25.33 | dvayanu | ? |
| 19:25.43 | JasonA | yep n a prominent speaker, author and a proud father |
| 19:25.54 | a4akb | dvayanu: hola |
| 19:26.41 | JasonA | dvayanu: Hi |
| 19:27.10 | dvayanu | hi |
| 19:27.14 | JasonA | i dont know what debian is as i never used it practically |
| 19:27.40 | jwisher | debian is a distro of linux, just as rhl is |
| 19:27.49 | JasonA | but both start with d so i made a reference :-[ |
| 19:28.01 | dvayanu | but how is debian related to me? |
| 19:28.03 | dvayanu | :-) |
| 19:28.08 | JasonA | i know jwisher, i mean i never worked on it |
| 19:28.23 | jwisher | ok |
| 19:28.30 | jwisher | i use it to host tomcat |
| 19:28.34 | jwisher | it is very good |
| 19:28.35 | JasonA | you two have a d, b, a,n |
| 19:28.51 | JasonA | so you both r relted :D |
| 19:28.56 | JasonA | *related |
| 19:29.06 | JasonA | tomcat is good |
| 19:29.14 | JasonA | run it on water n it will perform |
| 19:29.48 | jwisher | well |
| 19:30.00 | dvayanu | never tried it |
| 19:30.05 | jwisher | i'm almost sure it wouldn't perform as well on vista as it does on debian |
| 19:30.05 | JasonA | see that? |
| 19:30.08 | JasonA | told ya |
| 19:30.09 | dvayanu | on water |
| 19:31.03 | JasonA | i installed it on vista it ran like dropping butter on a red hot knife |
| 19:31.22 | JasonA | dvayanu: pour some water on your tomcat box :D |
| 19:31.51 | dvayanu | thats easy |
| 19:31.56 | dvayanu | i can make some fire on it |
| 19:32.08 | JasonA | :) |
| 19:32.42 | dvayanu | our fire extinguishing system works with water |
| 19:32.51 | JasonA | lol |
| 19:33.57 | dvayanu | given that we have 50 boxes there it could be costly |
| 19:34.32 | JasonA | oh |
| 19:35.20 | JasonA | i installed jdk1.6.0 and tomcat 6.0.13 on vista ultimate n the installation was smooth n effortless so was the performance |
| 19:35.48 | a4akb | dvayanu: how is the weekend |
| 19:35.58 | dvayanu | relaxed |
| 19:36.01 | dvayanu | more or less |
| 19:36.16 | a4akb | how is nada |
| 19:36.16 | dvayanu | have some work with my latest projects... one of them http://www.marsnews.net |
| 19:36.21 | dvayanu | a news site for an online game |
| 19:36.34 | dvayanu | another one went live this week: http://toolbar.payback.de |
| 19:36.50 | a4akb | cool |
| 19:37.00 | a4akb | all tomcat/java based apps? |
| 19:37.00 | dvayanu | yet another two i have to work on |
| 19:37.05 | dvayanu | yep |
| 19:37.13 | a4akb | Good. |
| 19:37.21 | dvayanu | for http://www.friendscout24.de i have to write a new backend architecture forthe chat |
| 19:37.31 | dvayanu | i'm like pulling it away from me for 5 weeks |
| 19:38.11 | dvayanu | and the last one is some google spam :-) |
| 19:38.46 | dvayanu | well thats what i call relax :-) |
| 19:39.11 | dvayanu | not to count moskito... |
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| 19:42.28 | JasonA | sorry was disconnected |
| 19:42.35 | dvayanu | yeah |
| 19:42.43 | dvayanu | and i was talkign and talking and talking :-) |
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| 19:45.35 | JasonA | talking is good for health |
| 19:46.10 | dvayanu | if someone is listening |
| 19:46.17 | JasonA | lol |
| 19:49.15 | JasonA | do u use an ide? |
| 19:52.15 | dvayanu | who me? |
| 19:53.12 | JasonA | yes |
| 19:54.03 | dvayanu | eclipse |
| 19:56.04 | JasonA | lunar or solar? |
| 19:56.59 | dvayanu | how smart |
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| 20:00.00 | JasonA | sorry i didnt mean to hurt you oryour eclipse intentionally |
| 20:00.09 | JasonA | i never used it |
| 20:00.16 | JasonA | only textpad |
| 20:00.47 | dvayanu | have you actually ever coded something? :-) |
| 20:01.03 | JasonA | loads |
| 20:01.13 | dvayanu | with textpad? |
| 20:01.29 | JasonA | yes |
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| 20:01.46 | dvayanu | refactored too? |
| 20:03.09 | JasonA | depends |
| 20:03.24 | dvayanu | freak :-) |
| 20:04.34 | JasonA | i keep changing environments |
| 20:04.54 | JasonA | boring to configure each time |
| 20:05.09 | dvayanu | one could copy one config |
| 20:05.15 | dvayanu | to each environment |
| 20:05.17 | JasonA | only ide i tried was netbeans |
| 20:05.24 | dvayanu | or work on a notebook |
| 20:05.34 | JasonA | n it was crap as i did not need so many features |
| 20:05.52 | dvayanu | refactoring is a bless |
| 20:06.18 | JasonA | cool |
| 20:06.29 | dvayanu | organizing imports too |
| 20:13.05 | a4akb | maybe I should try it |
| 20:13.39 | dvayanu | a4akb: what? an ide? |
| 20:14.35 | dvayanu | eclipse is better imho, still jason (b not a) said that the 6.x version were cool |
| 20:14.45 | a4akb | dvayanu: don't ask such difficult questions |
| 20:15.02 | dvayanu | beg my pardon |
| 20:15.05 | a4akb | integrated development environment |
| 20:15.29 | a4akb | a place where you go cukoo |
| 20:16.11 | a4akb | as you finely balancing fixing the ide or the code you actually wantto program.... |
| 20:18.11 | JasonA | well i hope F7 has a default IDE :) |
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