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| 00:40.25 | seevash | Hey. |
| 01:02.17 | seevash | yassine babba. |
| 01:02.43 | yassine | heyyy seevash |
| 01:02.53 | yassine | how are you doing mate |
| 01:03.03 | yassine | long time ago |
| 01:03.04 | seevash | Hi stranger, long time no see. |
| 01:03.12 | yassine | where have you been? |
| 01:03.29 | seevash | Here and there, trying to deal with my misery. |
| 01:03.38 | seevash | How about you? How's Mr. Malik, your wife? |
| 01:04.03 | yassine | we are all fine and if things works well i will bring them to germany soon |
| 01:04.25 | seevash | Oh, you guys are still apart! Sorry to hear that. |
| 01:04.36 | yassine | yeah unfortunatly |
| 01:04.48 | seevash | That bugger should be 2+ month by now. |
| 01:04.50 | yassine | but im flying again by the end of march there |
| 01:04.54 | yassine | yep:) |
| 01:05.06 | seevash | Excellent. |
| 01:05.21 | seevash | Happy to hear that. |
| 01:05.21 | yassine | he is exactly 2months and 4 days now |
| 01:05.38 | seevash | I thought he was born Jan 7! |
| 01:05.45 | yassine | yes |
| 01:05.54 | seevash | Oh, in Europe time it's Sunday already, hah. |
| 01:05.58 | yassine | so its 2 months and 4 days |
| 01:06.02 | yassine | yep :) |
| 01:06.04 | seevash | We are still March 10 here. |
| 01:06.27 | seevash | How's your new job going? Any hurdles? |
| 01:06.36 | yassine | doing good |
| 01:07.02 | seevash | So everything is going superb this year. |
| 01:07.04 | yassine | i have managed to improve my posotion there after fixing the open tasks there ;) |
| 01:07.52 | seevash | Improving position usually translates to more responsiblity which I desparately try to avoid. |
| 01:10.48 | yassine | seevash, i hope your now back to be often here so we can talk the next days |
| 01:10.57 | yassine | i gtg sleep now ;) |
| 01:11.06 | yassine | good evening there |
| 01:11.09 | yassine | n8 everyone |
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| 02:55.35 | letik123 | hello. Have a question about Tomcat 6 Admin module. Is it missing, in development or shall I use admin from Tomcat 5? |
| 02:58.26 | letik123 | anybody alive? |
| 03:11.17 | lyken | its not packaged |
| 03:11.26 | lyken | so you have to get it separate download |
| 03:16.38 | letik123 | thanks! I am also wondering what jdbc driver you think is faster SQL 2005? We are using JTurbo and have two options to keep using it or switch to jtds. Money is of no concern. |
| 03:16.53 | letik123 | :) |
| 03:21.09 | lyken | i dont know sorry mate |
| 03:21.14 | lyken | i use postgresql for all my db needs |
| 03:23.00 | letik123 | got you. Thanks! It is always so few people on the channel or it's just bad timing? |
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| 03:33.18 | lyken | never anyone around |
| 03:33.37 | lyken | there is like 5 of us that are actually active at any one time heh |
| 03:41.20 | letik123 | good night then... |
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| 04:14.20 | lyken | ug im so tireed |
| 04:44.46 | jasonb | I know what you mean. *sigh* |
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| 04:54.49 | *** topic/#tomcat by jasonb -> Stable versions: 6.0.10, 5.5.23 and 4.1.34. Newbies use the official binary from tomcat.apache.org, or an RPM package from http://www.webdroid.org:8080/archives/tomcat-package. Check your Tomcat logs before you ask for an answer. SLOW MOTION CHANNEL (we all have jobs & kids): Ask your question, including your TC, Java, & OS versions, then wait; check back often for answers. |
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| 05:41.05 | brianm | hi all, with tomcat 6, if I want to use it embedded and use the Http11NioProtocol handler... how the heck do i set it up? |
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| 05:42.22 | brianm | or rather, with tomcat 6.0.10 how do you use the aforementioned protocol handler? |
| 05:42.46 | brianm | say with OS X 10.4 and Java 1.5 :-) |
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| 05:57.28 | jasonb | brianm: Why would you want to use the NIO connector? |
| 05:57.59 | jasonb | Good morning yass|ne. |
| 05:58.09 | brianm | jasonb: I want to be able to process requests asyncronously -- specically I have a large number of very slow requests where the slowness is backend io |
| 05:58.47 | brianm | want to see if tomcat 6 will work as well/better than my current solution (which scares me and I want to be rid of) |
| 05:59.10 | jasonb | brianm: Okay. That seems reasonable. But, I have to warn you: the NIO connector is quite new, and may not be as stable as the rest of Tomcat 6.0 is. |
| 05:59.36 | jasonb | brianm: I actually recommend the pure Java connector. |
| 05:59.59 | brianm | jasonb: er, it is pure java |
| 06:00.13 | brianm | jasonb: I am not saying the APR connector, but the NIO one |
| 06:00.18 | jasonb | brianm: Maybe I should have said "the other pure Java connector".. |
| 06:00.40 | jasonb | brianm: They're commonly known as APR, NIO, and JIO. I'm suggesting JIO. |
| 06:00.44 | brianm | yes, but it is blocking and does the standard servlet "thread is blocked for duration" handling |
| 06:01.13 | brianm | which I am trying to eliminate as it is mostly blocked waiting many seconds on another IO op |
| 06:01.25 | jasonb | brianm: I realize. I'm not suggesting it so much based on the intended architecture. I'm more suggesting it based on my own benchmark results. |
| 06:01.55 | jasonb | brianm: But, keep in mind also that my benchmarks are on Fedora Linux, with Java 1.6.0. |
| 06:02.19 | brianm | so the answer to "how?" is "don't"? |
| 06:02.54 | jasonb | brianm: There has been heated debate and lots of benchmarking around finding the real answer about whether the NIO connector (that very implementation) is any better than the others, or even on par with the others. |
| 06:03.14 | jasonb | brianm: My benchmark results show the NIO connector to be the slowest .. I believe in all of my tests. |
| 06:03.54 | brianm | jasonb: under normal conditions it pobably will be, select sucks for per-connection performance compared to blocking and a dedicated thread |
| 06:03.55 | jasonb | brianm: There have been some code improvements since my benchmarks, but I have little confidence that it is faster than, say JIO. |
| 06:04.34 | brianm | jasonb: I am looking to for a better way to push 10k+ concurrent connections, though |
| 06:04.52 | brianm | where performance matters less than handling it and not falling over |
| 06:05.45 | jasonb | brianm: Okay, that's certainly far off the usual use case, and it does warrant taking a close look at both the APR and NIO connectors. In that case, I'd guess that the APR connector would be faster than NIO. But, I can understand why someone wouldn't want the APR connector. |
| 06:06.22 | jasonb | brianm: Well, what I'm saying is: if there is a case where the NIO connector is fastest, then using it means you do take a stability risk. |
| 06:06.53 | brianm | jasonb: if APR works better that is actually fine, all I am trying to do right now is find my way around tomcat's API's via whatever connector for doing async processing, which seems to be labeled Comet for one use case of it, sadly |
| 06:06.59 | jasonb | brianm: And, I'd mostly say the same about the APR connector, since it has also had its bugs. |
| 06:07.37 | jasonb | Ahh, I'm not sure that Comet works via NIO at this point. |
| 06:07.37 | brianm | happy to use APR if the rest falls in place, for now I am lazy and don't want to do a custom build :-) |
| 06:07.51 | brianm | looking through the code I think it thinks it does |
| 06:08.11 | jasonb | There was discussion that Comet via NIO had problems. I don't know if those were fixed yet. |
| 06:10.04 | jasonb | As for using it via the embedded API, I don't know. I have not done that. |
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| 07:22.18 | ss0 | tomcat 5.0.28 java 1.4.1 aix 5.3, we applied the os wide patch but can't update java for various reasons |
| 07:23.18 | ss0 | I was wondering, tomcat pulls it's rules for dst from java, but if the os has the correct time and has been rebooted shouldnt the new time be reflected in tomcat? and if it is not where should i look? |
| 07:24.03 | ss0 | Thanks for any help in advance, sorry if I am a bit noob on this, but I have never dealt with either of these technologies before I got thrown into this. |
| 07:25.16 | jasonb | ss0: It's your JDK. |
| 07:25.22 | jasonb | ss0: I believe it's 1.5.0_06 and higher that works properly for the early daylight savings time change. |
| 07:25.37 | jasonb | ss0: You're using a far older version. |
| 07:25.38 | ss0 | is there anyway to set the time manually and have it reflected |
| 07:25.58 | ss0 | the problem is there is custom software that relys on the jdk and it will break, and badly if we upgrade it |
| 07:27.03 | jasonb | Hmm, I'm not sure. Sun has some web pages about each major version of their JDK specifically about this. You might want to look at java.sun.com. I'm sure they have some links. But, I believe at least with Linux you can set the hardware clock to whatever you need to set it to. I do not know the details of AIX -- whether the same things would work. |
| 07:29.19 | ss0 | thanks for the help im checking suns site right now, its strange the os has been updated and is working properly but the time change is not reflected in the time stamps from the TC server. |
| 07:31.27 | ss0 | is server.xml only used to point to the time zone? |
| 07:31.39 | ss0 | (as far as being used in regards to time) |
| 07:35.58 | ss0 | jasonb thanks for the replies, sorry to bother you guys. Hope the dst change goes smoothly for all of you. |
| 07:37.12 | jasonb | ss0: Sorry, I was working in the background.. Where in server.xml does it set anything having to do with the time zone? |
| 07:38.58 | jasonb | Yeah, I'm not real sure why the JVM should track time in a way that it wouldn't notice changes from the OS. But, it's apparently a problem with Sun's Java implementation. |
| 07:48.13 | jasonb | Oh man. I think everyone should read this: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1925.html |
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| 11:03.35 | Sashlik | Hello. can't startup my tomcat, it says: The system cannot find the file -Djava.endorsed.dirs=. What might be wrong? |
| 15:14.20 | seevash | Sashlik: Your JAVA_HOME probably hasn't been set properly. |
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| 16:40.03 | RayNox | hello |
| 16:40.20 | RayNox | it's just to say that Tomcat is a very shit project |
| 16:40.25 | RayNox | cool |
| 16:41.01 | RayNox | the server is a big bug, you program and the servlet don't start after many hours |
| 16:41.08 | RayNox | big shit project |
| 16:42.49 | RayNox | so reinstall pfff |
| 16:43.09 | RayNox | Apache is good but Tomcat it's a fucking' shit |
| 16:47.52 | a4akb | RayNox: You had your 10secs of fame, you may leave now. |
| 16:52.06 | RayNox | a4akb, yes yes |
| 16:55.33 | a4akb | RayNox: don't repeat yourself it makes you sound twice dumb |
| 16:58.38 | RayNox | a4akb, i'm angray in this moment with that |
| 16:58.45 | RayNox | angry |
| 16:59.44 | a4akb | what is your problem with life? |
| 17:00.12 | RayNox | a4akb, tomcat bug alone |
| 17:01.34 | RayNox | it bug again shit |
| 17:03.25 | a4akb | explain that bug or bugger off |
| 17:04.44 | RayNox | when i go in the manager |
| 17:04.56 | RayNox | i start the servlets-examples |
| 17:05.37 | RayNox | and i have that the servlets-exampls cannot be run |
| 17:05.45 | RayNox | without nothing other |
| 17:11.13 | RayNox | now it's my 5th install pff |
| 17:14.03 | a4akb | do you realise tomcat needs jdk/jre as a prerequisite? |
| 17:15.26 | RayNox | a4akb, yeap i have all install all function but tomcat don't function after many hours |
| 17:15.37 | RayNox | or minutes |
| 17:25.31 | a4akb | which OS |
| 17:28.07 | a4akb | and after installation does your localhost display the tomcat homepage |
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| 17:54.12 | RayNox | yes, i have tomcat homepage... all function but it don't run after some time |
| 17:54.19 | RayNox | i use Ubuntu with package |
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| 18:01.46 | johnwa | tomcat 6.0.10/Jdk 1.5.0_10/Win2003 - anyone know how to enable directory listings per context? |
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| 21:09.21 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 21:37.20 | seevash | Good evening. |
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| 21:46.48 | yassine | heyy seevash |
| 21:46.51 | yassine | hey dvayanu |
| 21:47.00 | seevash | I thought you went to bed. |
| 21:47.20 | yassine | anyone of you guys knows how to get jsp higlighted and code completion active in eclipse ? |
| 21:47.40 | yassine | not yet i was preparing to go to the bath :) |
| 21:48.13 | seevash | Showering before bed? I thought that's common among female population. :) |
| 21:48.21 | seevash | Sorry, haven't used Eclipse in ages. |
| 21:48.28 | yassine | hihi |
| 21:48.55 | yassine | i dont really care about who use to do so, i had an active day and i need that :) |
| 21:49.38 | seevash | I see, maybe a lazy bum like me doesn't require rinsing. |
| 21:49.56 | seevash | However, I need it in the morning or I'll never wake up. |
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| 21:51.45 | wolfeon | I'm just kinda curious, since I don't see much of a difference in resource usage to jetty for 6.0.10. Are there any fallicies which I'll run in to by using Tomcat or jetty? Has anyone had exp. with both? |
| 21:54.46 | dvayanu | hey yassine, brb |
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| 21:58.24 | xenden | I'm trying to run coldfusion on jboss/tomcat, and wondering how to do something |
| 21:59.54 | xenden | with jrun, which has it's own connector, you can serve .cfm (or .jsp, etc.) pages from arbitrary locatoins |
| 22:00.15 | xenden | (pardon the spelling) |
| 22:01.26 | xenden | vs. with tomcat/jboss, the files have to be located under the servlet context root |
| 22:02.37 | xenden | is there some way to achieve what I'm trying to do? |
| 22:03.32 | xenden | Some apps are set up to be served from "/", vs "/cfusion", and I don't want to have to create an instance for each of the 20 or so of them |
| 22:04.00 | xenden | a context for each wouldn't be as bad, but I don't have the RAM for an instance of each. |
| 22:05.17 | xenden | If anybody knows what I'm talking about, and has some suggestions, that'd be appreciated. running tomcat 5.5, jboss 4.0.3 (iirc) |
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| 23:09.31 | sledgeas | hi |
| 23:11.54 | sledgeas | TC 6.0, gentoo; copied jsp project into ROOT, it has it's own dir but fails with exception: org.apache.jasper.JasperException: The absolute uri: http://java.sun.com/jsf/html cannot be resolved in either web.xml or the jar files deployed with this application |
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| 23:13.48 | sledgeas | i put jsf-imlp and -api jars under lib, but then what happens that i bork tomcat :/ |
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