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| 00:24.31 | ratm83 | when i run http://127.0.0.1:8080/test.html, the HTML file appears in the browser so my Tomcat server is up and running i guess. But when i enter data into the text field and click the button in the HTML page, the page should transfer to my HelloWorld servlet inside the /servlet folder, but i keep getting a "The requested resource (/servlet/HelloWorld) is not available". error! |
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| 00:53.05 | jasonb | Hey there Hellaenergy. How's it going? |
| 00:54.07 | Hellaenergy | hey jasonb |
| 00:54.13 | Hellaenergy | its going good |
| 00:54.31 | jasonb | How's the Harley? |
| 00:54.33 | Hellaenergy | just playing around with qemu and vmware on FC6 atm |
| 00:54.44 | jasonb | ahh, qemu.. another of my favorite subjects.. |
| 00:54.56 | Hellaenergy | Oh I put that away some time ago. Its pretty cold here now ;) |
| 00:55.16 | Hellaenergy | they have not release a new version in quite a while though. |
| 00:55.22 | Hellaenergy | what is up with that? |
| 00:55.30 | jasonb | So what's wrong with the version that is available now? :) |
| 00:56.00 | Hellaenergy | last I remembered its slow. In addition to that it does not play nice with gcc 4.x |
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| 00:56.11 | jasonb | Yeah, lately Fabrice Bellard hasn't committed anything new and groundbreaking. He must be busy with something else temporarily. |
| 00:56.17 | jasonb | qemu is not slow. |
| 00:56.50 | Hellaenergy | emluation by nature is slow ;) |
| 00:56.58 | jasonb | It doesn't build with gcc 4.x, but so what? Build it with gcc34. |
| 00:57.37 | Hellaenergy | Yeah with that kmod its better ehe. |
| 00:57.37 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Qemu by itself is an emulator, but qemu with kqemu is a virtualizer. |
| 00:57.37 | Hellaenergy | ah |
| 00:57.43 | jasonb | qemu with kqemu is about as fast as you can get.. including vmware. |
| 00:57.53 | Hellaenergy | that is good to know. |
| 00:58.06 | jasonb | Just use the -kernel-kqemu switch. |
| 00:58.07 | Hellaenergy | what are its downfalls then? |
| 00:58.13 | Hellaenergy | alright |
| 00:58.37 | jasonb | The emulated network may not be as fast as that of vmware.. depending on how you have things configured. |
| 00:59.05 | jasonb | There really aren't many drawbacks to qemu. I really do like it best. |
| 00:59.59 | ratm83 | when i run http://127.0.0.1:8080/test.html, the HTML file appears in the browser so my Tomcat server is up and running i guess. But when i enter data into the text field and click the button in the HTML page, the page should transfer to my HelloWorld servlet inside the /servlet folder, but i keep getting a "The requested resource (/servlet/HelloWorld) is not available". error! |
| 01:02.01 | Hellaenergy | jasonb, do you think I should use the binary or compile it myself? |
| 01:02.37 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Are you running x86_64 FC6 or i386? |
| 01:02.48 | Hellaenergy | i306 atm |
| 01:03.02 | Hellaenergy | i386 that is |
| 01:03.53 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Well, actually, I think you should pull from CVS, but that's just me. You could get away with using the latest release, but I don't remember what got fixed since then. CVS HEAD does build and run fine. |
| 01:04.02 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: I always build it, so I may be biased. :) |
| 01:05.15 | jasonb | ratm83: Then your HelloWorld servlet probably isn't mapped correctly in your web.xml. |
| 01:12.02 | ratm83 | what do i do to configure it? do i have to edit something or add? |
| 01:12.27 | ratm83 | do i have to change this? <url-pattern>/index.jsp</url-pattern> |
| 01:12.49 | jasonb | I think you need to read the Java Servlet Specification. |
| 01:13.15 | jasonb | In particular, the parts about how to deploy servlets by mapping them in web.xml. |
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| 01:42.24 | pfn | jasonb so... I'm thinking of naming the whole cms as pg&j, kind of a play on pb&j, rather than peanut butter & jam, it's p-nut gallery & jam |
| 01:43.17 | jasonb | pfn: Ugh. short is nice, however including characters that require the use of the shift key isn't nice. |
| 01:43.37 | jasonb | pfn: Plus, the & sign won't do well on URLs. |
| 01:43.59 | pfn | well, that's just a "rough draft" name |
| 01:44.02 | jasonb | pfn: I'd be happy to help by offering alternate names. |
| 01:44.10 | pfn | I'm sure I'll figure out some refinement thereof |
| 01:44.19 | pfn | pgandj pgaj... who knows |
| 01:46.18 | jasonb | ugh.. |
| 01:46.22 | pfn | I have a basic filesystem browser now, too |
| 01:46.30 | pfn | but loading up thumbnails is painfully slow |
| 01:46.47 | pfn | there will be dnd from the fs browser into the album tree as well as some sort of slideshow concept |
| 01:47.04 | jasonb | I'd like to offer different names, so I'd need to ask you some questions about what you intend the project to do, what you intend it to include, etc. |
| 01:47.53 | pfn | nothing's set in stone yet... just random braindumping |
| 01:48.39 | jasonb | Well, I'm sure you have some goals for it though. |
| 01:49.03 | jasonb | What did you intend pg&j to stand for? |
| 01:49.10 | pfn | nothing set in stone... goal #1 is to satisfy my use cases |
| 01:49.18 | jasonb | Which are? |
| 01:49.20 | pfn | well, p-nut being photo nut |
| 01:49.30 | pfn | j being jam, (journal and album manager) |
| 01:49.47 | pfn | simple blogging and photo publishing |
| 01:49.55 | jasonb | At one point I was determined to write mine, and simply name it "softalbum". |
| 01:49.59 | pfn | of course, that gets more elaborate |
| 01:50.09 | jasonb | Along the way I found other packages named that, but they weren't popular, and they faded out. |
| 01:50.31 | pfn | I'd also like to have some form of multi-user aspect |
| 01:50.36 | jasonb | pfn: So it's all about photos, regardless. Photos are the central topic. |
| 01:50.52 | pfn | well, photos get the bulk of the work, while blogging is well.. blogging |
| 01:51.05 | pfn | the blogging aspect is basically done anyhow |
| 01:51.11 | jasonb | But blogging about the photos? Or, the photos are there to augment the blogs? |
| 01:51.19 | jasonb | Because blogger software is already done. :) |
| 01:51.21 | pfn | jasonb they're orthogonal |
| 01:51.32 | pfn | it can be about the photos, or it can augment the blogs |
| 01:51.38 | pfn | or it can be completely unrelated to the photos |
| 01:51.42 | jasonb | Okay, so why wouldn't your code export the photos in some way that other blog software can use? |
| 01:52.09 | pfn | didn't feel like figuring out other blog packages, mainly |
| 01:52.15 | jasonb | I wanted mine called "Softalbum" because that doesn't say "picture" or "photo", which leaves the door open to other kinds of media like movies/videos. |
| 01:52.25 | seevash | Call your application Paufuse. |
| 01:52.44 | pfn | I'm not leaving the option open in this case, since I'm not going to be building any support for other media |
| 01:52.46 | seevash | Pau, as in [paw]n, fuse like well... fuse. |
| 01:52.48 | jasonb | Well, but there are so many blog packages.. There has to be one out there that has a license that is compatible that will mainly work like you would expect. |
| 01:53.01 | seevash | Hey jasonb, how's the little booboo? |
| 01:53.04 | pfn | possibly, but like I say, I've already written this |
| 01:53.25 | jasonb | seevash: They're both doing great! Thanks. :) Our baby girl is getting big, over 10 pounds now. |
| 01:54.03 | seevash | Wow, you know the other day I bottle fed my second cousin's 3-month-old baby. Best time in a long time. |
| 01:54.21 | seevash | I even accepted to babysit him for a whole day next week. Let's see if I get approved. |
| 01:54.24 | jasonb | pfn: But, if it is an OSS package, then you probably want others to use it. If others are going to use it, if they want blogs, they'll want the most powerful blog software they can get.. and yours won't be it because you're not focused on blogs. |
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| 01:54.53 | jasonb | seevash: Heh.. yeah, it's fun. |
| 01:55.11 | lintlock | jasonb i have a question |
| 01:55.33 | pfn | jasonb in any case, the urls are accessible in a more or less logical fashion |
| 01:55.33 | jasonb | pfn: Also, digital still cameras take great videos as well as stills, and I know I use both, so I know I need software that does both, and I highly doubt that I'm the only one. Don't you think it's a little early to rule out videos? |
| 01:55.41 | jasonb | lintlock: Go for it. |
| 01:56.13 | lintlock | i need to get the current date |
| 01:56.13 | pfn | jasonb well, there's nothing that's absolutely preventing video, but for the most part, not interested in adding it |
| 01:56.19 | lintlock | i know you use the calander class |
| 01:56.24 | seevash | You know, it's so hard to hold a baby while feeding him/her because with one hand you have to hold his/her neck/head and shove the bottle into his/her mouth. Now if whatever you are feeding him/her doesn't go in, then you need an extra hand to clean the cheeks... |
| 01:56.28 | pfn | jasonb the primary limitation with stuff like video is bandwidth |
| 01:56.53 | seevash | What a delimma. |
| 01:56.57 | jasonb | seevash: heh! |
| 01:57.30 | jasonb | pfn: Right. And if you don't really have a bandwidth problem, then you'll wonder why the feature isn't in there.. |
| 01:57.46 | lintlock | give me a sec |
| 01:57.48 | lintlock | sorry |
| 01:57.52 | jasonb | lintlock: That's ok. |
| 01:58.19 | pfn | jasonb possibly, but at this point, it isn't a goal of mine |
| 02:00.05 | jasonb | pfn: Okay. So the feature might be in there later. Consider company names that were deliberately not named something too specific -- it allowed the company to gracefully grow to a wider scope without having to change names. I consider this when naming projects. |
| 02:00.45 | pfn | jasonb as always, that makes sense |
| 02:01.07 | jasonb | pfn: It can't be too wide in scope, or else it would end up being too meaningless. But, it also can't be too small in scope.. |
| 02:01.44 | jasonb | pfn: I do think you should consider permutations of the word "album".. |
| 02:02.11 | jasonb | pfn: It no longer means "record" to people.. since we don't tend to use vinyl anymore. |
| 02:02.45 | jasonb | jalbum is already taken by another well known package. (giving more merit to the "album" theme) |
| 02:03.36 | seevash | How about Alboom? |
| 02:04.05 | pfn | well, a name doesn't necessarily have to be related to what it does |
| 02:04.29 | seevash | Ya, then it must be very unique and catchy or at least easy on the tongue. |
| 02:04.31 | pfn | e.g. peanut gallery really isn't necessarily related to any sort of "graphic display" |
| 02:04.42 | pfn | not saying my initial thinking is any good |
| 02:04.54 | pfn | nor firefox, mozilla, etc. |
| 02:04.57 | seevash | Hah, I'm good at coming up with crazy name.s |
| 02:04.58 | pfn | and mozilla was never catchy... |
| 02:04.59 | pfn | netscape was |
| 02:05.30 | seevash | Ya, you can tell once you roll it around for a week or so. |
| 02:06.27 | jasonb | pnut is taken by another project I think... |
| 02:06.35 | pfn | bbiab, dinner time |
| 02:07.05 | seevash | http://www.alboomkuwait.com/ |
| 02:07.24 | seevash | Damnit, just remembered "Al" in Arabic is like "the" in English. |
| 02:07.47 | seevash | Different semantic but still. |
| 02:08.30 | seevash | Forget about it, I don't want to spend the rest of my life in Guantanamo. |
| 02:09.08 | jasonb | heh! |
| 02:10.06 | seevash | Hmm... Pnut is nice. |
| 02:10.28 | jasonb | I didn't find much, surprisingly. |
| 02:12.49 | seevash | What about Pafuse? |
| 02:14.29 | seevash | http://www.roadtoguantanamomovie.com/ |
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| 02:17.44 | jasonb | seevash: Sounds too much like "perfume" to me. :) |
| 02:18.03 | seevash | Haha. |
| 02:18.16 | lintlock | jason when you read something on the screen do you really need a try and a catch? |
| 02:18.20 | lintlock | when using the scanner class |
| 02:19.58 | jasonb | Probably. |
| 02:20.10 | seevash | That depends on which Scanner's construction you are calling. |
| 02:20.39 | seevash | And also whether the calling method is throwing that exception as well. |
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| 02:22.42 | lintlock | sigh |
| 02:22.48 | lintlock | this professor is a retard |
| 02:23.10 | jasonb | lintlock: Do yourself a favor and do not become a professor. |
| 02:23.16 | lintlock | i am not |
| 02:24.32 | lintlock | out of all the professors in the department only about 4 or 5 know what the hell they are doing |
| 02:24.35 | lintlock | or thats as it seems |
| 02:25.44 | jasonb | They don't get paid enough --> unqualified people end up with the job. |
| 02:25.59 | jasonb | s/unqualified/underqualified/ |
| 02:26.50 | lintlock | at this university |
| 02:26.59 | lintlock | you get 2 programming classes in the beginning |
| 02:27.33 | seevash | I'm willing to get paid even a little but still have something to do with software development. |
| 02:27.47 | seevash | Hmm... Aren't they supposed to start as an associate professor? |
| 02:28.07 | lintlock | thats the thing |
| 02:28.16 | lintlock | the professors give out code |
| 02:28.27 | lintlock | so after their second class they learn nothing more |
| 02:28.43 | lintlock | and not 1 senior can help any of the underclassmen |
| 02:29.02 | lintlock | :) |
| 02:29.13 | seevash | Besides, most professors' main intention is get into universities to get on with their own research or get funded for them and possible publications... |
| 02:30.00 | seevash | Therefore, paying not enough attention to the whole process of fostering learning enviornment for their students. |
| 02:30.34 | lintlock | sad thing is only about 3 or 4 professors are doing research |
| 02:30.41 | lintlock | the others are picking their noses |
| 02:31.05 | seevash | Most of my professors were the brilliant people except they didn't even know what class they were teaching. Not that they couldn't, they just didn't care. |
| 02:31.45 | lintlock | i dont know if i can say the same |
| 02:31.49 | lintlock | they ask me for help |
| 02:31.51 | seevash | Well, in my university, everyone was just too preoccupied with their advances in research and never really cared much about the upcoming students. |
| 02:31.52 | lintlock | so :/ |
| 02:32.12 | lintlock | Winston Salem State University |
| 02:32.14 | lintlock | sux |
| 02:32.32 | jasonb | Good smokes there, I hear.. |
| 02:32.41 | seevash | Haha. |
| 02:32.44 | jasonb | :) |
| 02:32.55 | lintlock | hah |
| 02:33.29 | seevash | Ok, time to cook up some e-mail for my sister let her know not to show up here without some hefty xmas gift... |
| 02:33.40 | lintlock | they are forcing people to write thesis |
| 02:33.45 | lintlock | the senior year |
| 02:34.04 | lintlock | and forcing ppl to take the gre and forcing people to apply for grad school |
| 02:34.05 | seevash | Probably on their own research topics? |
| 02:34.15 | lintlock | research |
| 02:34.16 | lintlock | HAH |
| 02:34.19 | seevash | Forcing as in encouraging? |
| 02:34.23 | lintlock | no forcing |
| 02:34.28 | lintlock | you dont do it you dont pass |
| 02:34.38 | seevash | Can they do that??? |
| 02:34.50 | lintlock | apparently so |
| 02:34.51 | seevash | It's a state university, not a private one. |
| 02:34.59 | seevash | That's very odd. |
| 02:36.23 | lintlock | they are trying to make the department look good |
| 02:37.00 | seevash | What they need to do is to attract some female students. |
| 02:37.14 | lintlock | the ratio is nice here |
| 02:37.22 | lintlock | like 9-1 or something |
| 02:37.33 | lintlock | this University is known for the nursing program |
| 02:37.41 | lintlock | one of the best in the nation i believe |
| 02:37.41 | seevash | I remember back in my years in college, our department was struggling to beat 10% female ratio. |
| 02:38.13 | seevash | Out of 100 people in the class, I can tell you honestly, we only had 6 female collegues. |
| 02:38.30 | seevash | In smaller classes, 15-30... Forget about it. One tops. |
| 02:38.35 | lintlock | in computer science |
| 02:38.38 | seevash | Yes. |
| 02:38.38 | lintlock | there is a horrible ratio |
| 02:39.08 | lintlock | school wise though OOOH BABY |
| 02:39.22 | seevash | Well, my university is notorious in having "the most unhappiest student boddy" 3 years in the row among top 350 colleges in the nation. |
| 02:39.43 | seevash | s/boddy/buddy. |
| 02:39.59 | seevash | Damnit... I gotta stop writing in three places... BODY. |
| 02:41.50 | yassine | heyy you guys are disturbing me i can't sleep |
| 02:42.02 | lintlock | lol |
| 02:43.10 | seevash | Hey yassine baba. |
| 02:43.21 | seevash | yassine, Did you get VOIP server to work? |
| 02:43.59 | yel | seevash, its off for now :s |
| 02:44.10 | lintlock | yassine is evil |
| 02:44.19 | seevash | I see, let me know when you got it to work. |
| 02:44.37 | lintlock | i am forcing my girl to learn how to program |
| 02:44.40 | lintlock | im not doing a thing |
| 02:44.53 | seevash | That poor girl. |
| 02:44.54 | yel | seevash, i will |
| 02:44.56 | lintlock | and her professor's project is downright pointless |
| 02:45.19 | yel | my other clients is frozen :) |
| 02:46.29 | seevash | There was this Indian guy who everyone he went on a date, he couldn't talk about anything else other than his coding "journey" with his date. |
| 02:46.54 | seevash | Surprisingly, everytime after the date he would come to us and claim girls weren't intrested in him. |
| 02:47.11 | seevash | I wonder why!!! |
| 02:47.45 | pfn | I thought xlite was killed |
| 02:47.50 | pfn | people still use it? |
| 02:48.04 | lintlock | nah this is accually my girl |
| 02:48.15 | lintlock | i get frustrated with everyone else fast |
| 02:51.42 | seevash | I'm caughing like crazy and wonder why. I just spent and hour inhaling fresh oak wood powder today. |
| 02:51.44 | seevash | Bad idea... |
| 02:52.16 | lintlock | yeah thats borderline insane |
| 02:52.48 | seevash | You tell that to hardwood floor guys who sand floors everyday with no protection mask on. |
| 02:53.15 | lintlock | ok thats stupid |
| 02:53.22 | yel | anyone of you guys have a clue how i can unpack a doson of rar files which are only one big file ? |
| 02:53.22 | lintlock | they want to sue someone :P |
| 02:53.24 | seevash | Then a decade later they wake up coughing up blood into their bowl of cereals. |
| 02:53.41 | lintlock | yeah open one |
| 02:53.48 | lintlock | and pull out that main file |
| 02:54.00 | yel | lintlock, im not on w2k |
| 02:54.06 | seevash | yel, Unrar the one with .rar or .000 or something. |
| 02:54.22 | lintlock | ... ooo i dont know |
| 02:55.01 | yel | seevash, already tried that but it fails |
| 02:55.14 | seevash | What does it say? |
| 02:55.29 | yel | extraction file-name-iso fails |
| 02:56.42 | seevash | Hmm... Could it be one of the files are corrupted? |
| 02:56.42 | yel | no they are fine |
| 02:57.56 | seevash | Can you pastebin the list of the rar files? |
| 02:58.58 | lintlock | hah |
| 02:59.07 | lintlock | windows 1 linux 4000000 |
| 03:09.49 | lintlock | ok guys cya |
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| 05:07.11 | vicalloy | any one know how to config tomcat to use jsessionid keep session? |
| 05:07.39 | CowwoC | hi |
| 05:07.41 | CowwoC | anyone manage to get Tomcat SSL to work? I've got normal HTTP working fine but when I try hitting a page using HTTPS it says "connecting" forever. Ideas? |
| 05:08.09 | CowwoC | vicalloy: if you create a HTTP session, it'll add jsessionid to the URL automatically |
| 05:08.41 | vicalloy | can config it as default in tomcat? |
| 05:09.04 | CowwoC | vicalloy: there is nothing for you to configure. I think you need to try running an example webapp to see this working |
| 05:09.11 | CowwoC | Tomcat has it working out of the box |
| 05:09.28 | vicalloy | thanks |
| 05:09.30 | CowwoC | np |
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| 06:18.42 | jasonb | pfn: https://pnuts.dev.java.net/ |
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| 06:57.22 | pfn | jasonb damn |
| 06:58.14 | jasonb | pfn: I knew I had heard of *something* with that name. |
| 06:58.41 | jasonb | pfn: And, after seeing that, I even remember hearing that it was a somewhat popular project. |
| 06:59.26 | jasonb | pfn: What do you think of the name "Snap"? Or, a derivative of it? Just an idea. A naming script of mine suggested it. :) |
| 06:59.46 | pfn | too similar to something like snapfish |
| 06:59.54 | pfn | maybe as a "surname" |
| 06:59.59 | jasonb | pfn: Sometimes code tells us what name it wants. :) |
| 07:00.22 | pfn | bbl, movietime |
| 07:00.27 | jasonb | k. |
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| 09:50.19 | PennFan | hi all |
| 09:59.12 | yassine | morning PennFan |
| 10:01.51 | PennFan | good morning yassine :) |
| 10:02.19 | yassine | how is everything ? |
| 10:03.01 | PennFan | yassine fine - so far |
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| 10:10.16 | yassine | thats good :) |
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| 11:30.46 | jldomingo_ | Hi |
| 11:31.04 | jldomingo_ | I'd like to ask something about struts |
| 11:31.59 | jldomingo_ | There is a group of developers that don't send any charset in their forms, so sometimes the browser gets a wrong charset |
| 11:32.24 | jldomingo_ | They refuse to set anything about encoding, because they say "we use struts" |
| 11:32.58 | jldomingo_ | What has to be done to specify a charset, and who has to do it? |
| 11:33.30 | jldomingo_ | I'll say that I have no idea about struts, nor is my task to know about it |
| 11:48.25 | odin_ | surely if they use struts then as part of the localication support this would be auto-detected and set |
| 11:48.45 | odin_ | which charsets are you working with ? what are you getting and what are you wanting |
| 11:51.37 | jldomingo_ | odin_: I guess iso-8859-15 should be used, but utf-8 is sent |
| 11:51.59 | jldomingo_ | The developers didn't specify which they want and which they should get |
| 11:52.09 | odin_ | I thought utf-8 was able to encapsulate ALL charactersets upto ucs4 (32bit unicode) |
| 11:52.15 | jldomingo_ | That depends on how they created the db |
| 11:52.38 | jldomingo_ | The data gets stored in the db in the wrong charset |
| 11:52.47 | odin_ | ok I use utf-8 in my databases, but I'm from an english speaking and iso-8859-1 country anyway |
| 11:53.19 | odin_ | so where really is the problem? |
| 11:53.35 | odin_ | if utf-8 is being served and sent between HTTP/tomcat and browser, then there is no problem |
| 11:53.57 | jldomingo_ | When a form is submitted and the data retrieved from the db, the charset is wrong |
| 11:54.24 | odin_ | but if utf-8 is being converted into ucs2 (which is what java uses for 'char') but it a charset of iso-8859-99 and the database is another |
| 11:54.44 | odin_ | but utf-8 can convery ALL chararacter sets |
| 11:54.52 | odin_ | convery=convey |
| 11:55.21 | odin_ | so your problem sound like the codepage being used to load form database into java before java emits it at utf-8 |
| 11:55.34 | odin_ | but it doesn't sound like the fault of utf-8 itself |
| 11:55.57 | odin_ | what charset is your database ? |
| 11:56.12 | odin_ | what charset is your client/browser by default ? iso-8859-15 ? |
| 11:57.35 | odin_ | you can convert iso-8859-15 (database) -> utf-8 (http response) -> utf-8 (browser) -> utf-8 (http request) -> iso-8859-15 (database) without loss |
| 11:58.37 | odin_ | you can't convert iso-8859-15 (database) -> java 'char' type (program), without loss, unless you also convery the codepage/charset in use along with the data |
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| 12:14.44 | jldomingo_ | odin_: sorry, I was busy |
| 12:15.50 | jldomingo_ | odin_: My point of view is that the developer should know the charset his app uses, and send the headers to the browser |
| 12:16.23 | jldomingo_ | However, they refuse to do anything and rely on "tomcat system configuration" |
| 12:41.29 | odin_ | well if their database is usings a specific character set that is not utf-8 (and not some other super-set) then the developer has already tied their database to that character set |
| 12:42.12 | odin_ | if if they are using utf-8 for database then yes, you can probably get away with just changing the global configuration to whatever charset you want to use |
| 12:43.00 | odin_ | there is no reason to use anything else but UTF-8 for serving webpages and storing data, since UTF-8 can encode anything in the 32bit unicode UCS4 space |
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| 13:06.43 | Lfe | hey, how do i set environment variables for an application deployed in tomcat? |
| 13:10.55 | Lfe | ah, think i've found it. <Environment */> |
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| 13:25.31 | jldomingo_ | odin_: I guess the app is tied to iso-8859-15, so I think the app should send iso to the browser, which currently is not doing |
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| 14:48.21 | odin_ | jldomingo: well I think that UTF8 works for any character set as its a super-set encoding, so your problems must be else where |
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| 14:54.09 | jldomingo_ | odin_: I think that the app is not aware of the charset used in the db |
| 14:54.36 | jldomingo_ | Or if it is, that info is not (properly) sent to the browser |
| 14:55.19 | odin_ | I dont think you understand the domain of the problem |
| 14:55.47 | odin_ | if the DB is UTF8 and if Tomcat is using UTF8 for pages then these are character set neutral |
| 14:55.52 | jldomingo_ | Maybe, I'm not a dev |
| 14:56.44 | odin_ | the only concerns come from when taking that is not UTF8 and then converting it though the java 'char' type |
| 14:57.09 | odin_ | as the java 'char' type is 16 bits an therefore the codepage selection is implied |
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| 15:37.58 | ding | If I want to lookup something via jndi in Tomcat 5.5, what is the proper syntax for PROVIDER_URL when getting the initial context? Couldn't really find much via google... |
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| 15:51.32 | botch | hey people |
| 15:52.04 | botch | i just get a little frustrated about myself because i don't get this JNDI model of tomcat |
| 15:52.22 | botch | in my webapp, i've a dedicated Context, right? |
| 15:53.05 | odin_ | there is no dynamic JNDI in tomcat |
| 15:53.13 | odin_ | its static |
| 15:53.19 | odin_ | not a real JNDI |
| 15:53.45 | odin_ | just enough for simple hooking up of things like database connection providers and stuff like that |
| 15:54.12 | botch | ok... |
| 15:54.21 | ding | But once you've set up a datasource, can you look it up via JNDI from another host? |
| 15:54.35 | ding | or can you only get it from your web app? |
| 15:54.46 | odin_ | from another host, no.. since there is no TCPIP server prodiving naming service and connection |
| 15:54.49 | botch | ..i haven't used JNDI until now, so i woun't see any difference between real dynamic JNDI or static one... |
| 15:54.56 | odin_ | you can get it from your webapp yes, inside tomcat |
| 15:55.04 | botch | i want to hook up a Jackrabbit repository for my webapp |
| 15:55.45 | botch | for that, i followed the suggestions of the jackrabbit docs and created a Resource in my context.xml |
| 15:55.46 | odin_ | you can bind it at deployment time from configuration, but after that you can't change JNDI bindings |
| 15:55.57 | ding | odin_, tomcat isn't running anything that can be accessed via RMI? |
| 15:56.00 | odin_ | yes <Resource ..> is how you bind it via configuration |
| 15:56.14 | botch | ok - so far, i got it. |
| 15:56.15 | odin_ | ding: no |
| 15:56.29 | botch | but how can i access this resource now from inside my webapp code?? |
| 15:56.39 | odin_ | botch: a real JNDI like in JBossAS is dynamic and would allow you to connect and remove things at runtime |
| 15:57.11 | jasonb | odin_: Do you know why Tomcat's is read-only? I never quite understood why. |
| 15:57.38 | botch | ok. so i do all things in development mode. meaning i use ant-tasks to deplay and reload my webapp. |
| 15:57.57 | botch | is this, where die static JNDI things comes in my way? |
| 15:58.15 | odin_ | something like this: Context envCtx = (Context) ctx.lookup("java:comp/env"); DataSource ds = (DataSource) envCtx.lookup("jdbc/TomcatDS"); |
| 15:58.17 | botch | (since my context.xml is loaded during this "runtim-deployment") |
| 15:58.59 | odin_ | jasonb: I would guess full JNDI support is heavy weight and not required by most standalone TC usage |
| 15:59.32 | jasonb | odin_: Well, true. But, wouldn't a writeable JNDI be a little more useful? |
| 16:00.01 | odin_ | Maybe you can just do: Context ctx = new InitialContext(); DataSource ds = (DataSource) ctx.lookup("java:comp/env/jdbc/TomcatDS"); |
| 16:00.34 | odin_ | where: <Resource name="jdbc/TomcatDS" ... /> |
| 16:00.40 | jasonb | odin_: The reason why I ask this is: Tomcat's JNDI is implemented as a read/write JNDI, and at deployment time it is marked read-only. I even wrote some webapp code that reaches into Tomcat and marks it writeable, and that works. :) |
| 16:02.45 | odin_ | ding: Re: PROVIDER_URL, there is no need, Context ctx = new InitialContext(); should do |
| 16:03.21 | odin_ | jasonb: Sorry cant help there as I dont know, must have been a decision made by the TC comitters |
| 16:03.40 | botch | odin_: do i need to start tomcat up with my context.xml, or can i deploy it during runtime? |
| 16:04.27 | odin_ | botch: either way, all deployments are equal, be it deployed at startup or hot-deploy while running be in META-INF/context.xml the config needs to go |
| 16:05.53 | odin_ | I'm in the middle on a few weeks of windows C/C++ coding at the moment... |
| 16:05.54 | ding | odin_, well there would have been a need if I was running from another jvm or host... but I suppose not if running inside the web app |
| 16:06.29 | botch | odin_: META-INF/context.xml?? isn't it WEB-INF/context.xml? |
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| 16:06.55 | Hattori | on tomcat a webapplication, from servlet, start a thread that open socket on port 6000. if from tomcat manager i stop/start it without close that socket, if i try to open port 6000 it says that socket can't listen on port 6000. Is there a way to kill a socket when webapp is stopped? else i would not be able to open 6000 port untill tomcat is restarted |
| 16:07.28 | odin_ | botch: META-INF/context.xml is correct WEB-INF/ is used for web-app related configuration internall, where as META-INF/ is used as a manifest configuration used by something outside of the web-app |
| 16:08.08 | botch | so, I guess this could be a reason, why i never find my resources... |
| 16:08.36 | odin_ | botch: in this case that something is the container, but think of META-INF/ sub-dir as stuff relating to providing information to a higher power/higher being outside of that the entity itself is |
| 16:09.43 | odin_ | botch: the entity itself in this case is a web-app, but when a META-INF/ is inside a JAR the entity is a JAR which is used by an application, etc... is a recursively scalable concept |
| 16:10.02 | botch | ok. |
| 16:10.26 | botch | and since tomcat needs to setup the context, my context.xml is dedicated to the "higher power" |
| 16:10.37 | botch | and should be placed in META-INF |
| 16:10.47 | botch | did i got it now? |
| 16:11.01 | odin_ | Im just trying to explain the concept of META-INF in a generic way, since its used throughout java technology |
| 16:11.15 | botch | odin_: yes |
| 16:11.37 | odin_ | for example you can put TLD Tag Library Descriptor as META-INF/foobar.xml inside a JAR file, which itself is WEB-INF/lib/foobar.jar |
| 16:11.59 | odin_ | in this scenario the META-INF is being used by the web-app and container since both are higher power in relation to the tag library |
| 16:13.03 | odin_ | META-INF is also used in Eclipse plugin system to provide information as to what the plugin entity is, so again thats another use, differenct sencario, same underlying concept |
| 16:14.08 | botch | odin_: maybe i should read the java-tutorial again... |
| 16:14.29 | odin_ | botch: well if you are a newbie its easy to get confused, I know I was |
| 16:15.00 | odin_ | botch: but there isn't a lot else that goes in META-INF everything else generally goes in WEB-INF |
| 16:16.41 | botch | what else information could i pack into META-INF than resource bindings for JNDI |
| 16:19.48 | odin_ | in the context.xml all TC related configuration upon that web-app |
| 16:21.02 | odin_ | I commonly have : <Manager .../> to save session state between reloads, helps when debugging, dont need to login again, <Logger .../> logging requests to a file, <Parameter .../> a parameter which I use to tell my app if its in DEVEL, TEST of LIVE mode to change things |
| 16:21.47 | odin_ | besides: <Context ... debug="1" reloadable="false" > where I use Eclipse, I set reloadable="false" because it does hot code replace anyway of .class files |
| 16:25.47 | botch | ok |
| 16:25.54 | botch | thanks so far odin_ |
| 16:26.51 | botch | i'll go on playing around here with my tom(pussy)cat |
| 16:35.32 | jldomingo_ | re: |
| 16:36.15 | jldomingo_ | a different one: what can happen that when from time to time an app is restarted, tomcat needs to be restarted? |
| 16:36.58 | odin_ | yes hot-redeployment is not without its quirks |
| 16:37.22 | odin_ | some due to bugs in all areas, mainly the JVM these days as all the apps and libs have slowly been fixed |
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| 16:39.13 | jldomingo_ | odin_: is exactly the same to reload that stop, wait and start? |
| 16:39.32 | odin_ | stop what? stop the web-app or stop the container? |
| 16:41.41 | jldomingo_ | The app only. There are many apps in the server |
| 16:42.44 | odin_ | well thats what hot-deployment is, the ability to stop/start single web-app within the same long running container/JVM |
| 16:43.20 | odin_ | hot-deployment has its quirks, its not good for stable producation use or a free-for-all setup where may uses will be reloading their own webapps often |
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| 16:44.14 | Tomasso | apache monitor and myeclipse say tomcat is no longer running |
| 16:44.36 | Tomasso | but i still can access the web page |
| 16:44.44 | Tomasso | i click reload, but same thing |
| 16:44.50 | odin_ | what platform? win32 or linux? |
| 16:44.53 | Tomasso | win32 |
| 16:45.09 | odin_ | then check task manager for the tomcat process |
| 16:45.09 | Tomasso | i dont even know the name of the process |
| 16:45.16 | Tomasso | not able to identify it |
| 16:45.43 | Tomasso | there is no tomcat process :) |
| 16:45.44 | Tomasso | :( |
| 16:45.45 | odin_ | mine is called tomcat5.exe |
| 16:45.59 | odin_ | your looking for something bigger than maybe 15Mb |
| 16:46.15 | Tomasso | hmhm |
| 16:46.20 | odin_ | from that it should be easy to find it on most desktop systems |
| 16:46.51 | Tomasso | nop :( |
| 16:46.54 | Tomasso | http://24.232.77.139:8080/ |
| 16:47.01 | Tomasso | that one is my tomcat |
| 16:47.03 | odin_ | telnet to the port and ip directly from windows |
| 16:47.16 | botch | "Cannot create resource instance" means the factory is still not found? |
| 16:47.17 | odin_ | run "HEAD / HTTP/1.0" |
| 16:48.04 | odin_ | botch: it usualy means the factory can't create the instance of what its a factory for, so in the case of SQL connection provider, it cant get a connection? |
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| 16:48.47 | botch | odin_: so, the factory class was found and loaded, but it doesn't work correctly? |
| 16:49.15 | Tomasso | nothing.. |
| 16:49.16 | Tomasso | :( |
| 16:49.55 | odin_ | Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1 for me from telnet 24.232.77.139 8080 |
| 16:50.36 | Tomasso | there should be a way to kill it |
| 16:50.59 | odin_ | yes select it from task manager and "end process" |
| 16:50.59 | botch | Tomasso: "killall java" ?? |
| 16:51.26 | botch | oh - windows... |
| 16:51.31 | Tomasso | hmhm hehehe |
| 16:51.56 | Tomasso | there are two javaw processes running it should be one of them |
| 16:52.16 | odin_ | do they have sucessive process ids ? |
| 16:52.17 | Tomasso | worked :D |
| 16:52.41 | Tomasso | one of the was eclipse 130 mb and the other was 30 mb :D |
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| 16:55.26 | botch | odin_: because of my NamingException: does it say, that the factory class was found and loaded? |
| 16:55.53 | odin_ | NamingException is thrown when you ask for a resource reference "java:comp/env/foobar" that does not exist |
| 16:56.09 | botch | hence: no, it wasn't found. |
| 16:56.14 | botch | hmmm |
| 16:56.22 | odin_ | check javadoc for InitialContext API info |
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| 17:16.38 | aje | hello there. i would like to find some simple instructions on how to implement MVC with tomcat and servlets/jsp. where can i find that? |
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| 19:57.09 | a4akb | hi bugfixer |
| 20:03.50 | a4akb | ibot_: hi |
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| 21:06.34 | fallout | hi |
| 21:06.56 | fallout | i've got a WAR application (confluence) that i'm trying to get setup appropriately on tomcat 5.5 |
| 21:07.31 | fallout | i believe i've got the appbase misconfigured as i'm seeing errors in the logs re: missing files with the appbase path. |
| 21:08.36 | fallout | i want tomcat to look in the war (or the exploded war) for the files it believes are missing. |
| 21:08.37 | fallout | what should my appbase be set to? the absolute path to the war file? |
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| 21:10.14 | CyberTop | salve a tutti |
| 21:11.19 | CyberTop | posso fare una domanda |
| 21:11.34 | fallout | hrm. it's apparently not the absolute path to the war.. |
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| 22:13.33 | Hattori | on tomcat a webapplication, from servlet, start a thread that open socket on port 6000. if from tomcat manager i stop/start it without close that socket, if i try to open port 6000 it says that socket can't listen on port 6000. Is there a way to kill a socket when webapp is stopped? else i would not be able to open 6000 port untill tomcat is restarted |
| 22:14.31 | swente | Hattori: you might use a ContextListener to get notified when the app starts/stops |
| 22:15.05 | swente | Hattori: and, i assume you not only want to close that socket, but the entire background-thread, too [which should close it's socket on exit..] |
| 22:15.44 | Hattori | yes, how? |
| 22:16.11 | swente | Hattori: see interface ContextListener [shouldbe explaining itself]. implement such one for you, and don't forget to register it :) |
| 22:16.31 | Hattori | i tried with a addShutdownHook and didn't work |
| 22:16.53 | swente | http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/2.3/javadoc/index.html |
| 22:16.56 | swente | sorry |
| 22:17.07 | swente | http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/2.3/javadoc/javax/servlet/ServletContextListener.html |
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| 22:28.38 | Hattori | thanks swente, i'm trying.. |
| 22:30.32 | Hattori | in my application, from the servlet i start a thread that is the server. in the contextDestroyed() method of the ServletContextListener implementation, should i terminate that thread somehow? i close the socket of that thread, so an exception is sent, i catch it and the thread ends.. it will be garbage collected right? or should i set it to null or other things? |
| 22:30.55 | swente | you have to stop the worker-thread |
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| 22:33.03 | Hattori | not with .stop() right? is deprectaed.. |
| 22:33.10 | Hattori | i just have to end it right? |
| 22:33.15 | swente | Hattori: i assume it e.g. sleeps in a loop most time, perhaps in a blocking call waiting for the socket. there should be versions of those methods blocking only for some period .. i'd let it block just for 1-3 seconds. if you give that thread's class e.g. a boolean flag "isRunning", you can change that value from the contextlistener ( child.setRunning(false) ) -- the mainloop of the worker can use that as indicator to exit the loop. |
| 22:34.03 | swente | yes, the stop-method (and others) are deprecated. your worker has to exit/return from it's run()-method. |
| 22:34.32 | Hattori | it's blocking but if in the contextDestroyed i close the socket, it will launch an exception that i catch outside the loop, so then it will exit, right? |
| 22:35.38 | swente | i got you correctly?: stopping the worker by closing it's socket [while worker waits on it] from externally [contextlistener]? |
| 22:36.10 | swente | well .. i'm not sure if that works .. probably it will make the worker fail sooner or later .. but i think it's not a really good practise :) |
| 22:38.18 | Hattori | hmm anyway it doesn't work =\ |
| 22:38.30 | swente | which method does your worker block in? |
| 22:38.56 | Hattori | socket.accept() |
| 22:39.06 | Hattori | but i mean it doesn't work just because nothing happen |
| 22:39.29 | Hattori | let me put a System.out.println too see if the method is even called when i undeploy from tomcat manager |
| 22:39.42 | swente | ok |
| 22:41.29 | Hattori | hmm now worked |
| 22:41.43 | swente | the listener is called? |
| 22:41.54 | Hattori | yep and socket got closed |
| 22:42.21 | swente | so currently you shutdown the socket [which is in use]? |
| 22:42.45 | Hattori | yes |
| 22:42.57 | Hattori | i have a Runnable class that is the server class that has its socket |
| 22:42.58 | swente | so you receive an ioexception i guess |
| 22:43.10 | fallout | if i point Tomcat to a WAR file via the appBase in server.xml and there "isn't a directory of the same name" where will tomcat expand the WAR to? |
| 22:43.19 | Hattori | so i close it from the listener and i catch the exception inde the server class |
| 22:43.29 | swente | Hattori: yes i see |
| 22:43.39 | Hattori | swente: is it any good? |
| 22:44.19 | swente | well it seems to be working, but i personally would tell the worker-thread to finish it's work, and let it do so [and wait until it's done from the listener] |
| 22:44.58 | Hattori | but it's blocked on accept().. how can i let it finish? |
| 22:45.31 | swente | Hattori: i've browsed ServerSocket-class. there's no accept-call with a timeout, but it should work when setting socket.setSoTimeout( <interval> ). you need to catch the SocketTimeoutException which will oftenly occur then :) |
| 22:46.30 | swente | Hattori: that i'd place in a loop (not the setTimeout, but the accept-with-trycatch) watching isRunning-attribute. |
| 22:47.47 | pfn | huh? what sort of ugly hackery are we doing today? |
| 22:47.55 | Hattori | :) |
| 22:47.57 | swente | pfn: the usual:) |
| 22:48.01 | Hattori | sounds clever |
| 22:48.23 | pfn | indeed, use a ServletContextListener to start and stop your background thread |
| 22:48.25 | pfn | not a Servlet |
| 22:48.39 | Hattori | i have to stop a thread from a ServletContextListener |
| 22:48.42 | pfn | as for blocking, use nio to do non-blocking socket accept |
| 22:48.57 | swente | oh. java really supports nio today? ;) |
| 22:51.01 | swente | Hattori: of course pfn is right, it would be much smarter to use nonblocking-io. but, i had to read that up -- one just had to do it that way before java supported nonblocking-io. |
| 22:53.37 | pfn | http://www.exampledepot.com/egs/java.nio/AcceptSocket.html |
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| 23:19.54 | fallout | i think i've figured out most of the other issues i was having. |
| 23:20.07 | fallout | something i had resolved however has come back up. |
| 23:20.19 | fallout | i've got my context descriptor file named ROOT.xml |
| 23:20.27 | fallout | i was using a context path of "" |
| 23:21.06 | fallout | my application is deploying to a context path of /my_war_name instead of / |
| 23:21.48 | fallout | how can i get it to deploy to the root path? |
| 23:22.37 | fallout | this is probably because i'm using appBase instead of docBase. |
| 23:22.57 | fallout | and it's probably ignoring the context descriptor file or something./ |
| 23:24.44 | jasonb | fallout: Is your webapp *also* deployed to the root URI? |
| 23:24.56 | jasonb | fallout: Like, when you request the root URI, do you see it? |
| 23:25.13 | fallout | the root URI for that vhost produces a 404. |
| 23:25.28 | jasonb | hmm vhost. Are you using Apache httpd here? |
| 23:25.42 | fallout | nah |
| 23:25.47 | fallout | just tomcat5.5 |
| 23:25.48 | jasonb | So this is Tomcat stand-alone? |
| 23:26.13 | jasonb | Okay, show us how your <Host> looks in server.xml. |
| 23:28.53 | fallout | will do.. pastebin is slow ;) |
| 23:29.22 | jasonb | If you want to paste in as many as 3 or 4 lines into the channel, that's fine. |
| 23:29.26 | fallout | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.26 | fallout | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.26 | fallout | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.26 | fallout | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.29 | fallout | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.17 | jasonb | Now, show us what directories reside in your webapps dir. |
| 23:30.56 | fallout | there's only one for an unrelated jsp that i was trying to get working a couple weeks ago |
| 23:31.16 | fallout | the war is in that dist directory (appBase) |
| 23:31.25 | fallout | it's expanding the war in that same directory |
| 23:31.27 | jasonb | Okay, actually, show us what dirs reside in your /opt/confl/confluence-2.2.9/dist dir. |
| 23:32.11 | fallout | drwxr-xr-x 2 apache apache 4096 Nov 28 16:57 ROOT |
| 23:32.11 | fallout | drwxrwxr-x 20 apache apache 4096 Nov 28 16:59 atlassian-confluence-2.2.9 |
| 23:32.11 | fallout | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37598514 Nov 28 14:46 atlassian-confluence-2.2.9.war |
| 23:32.30 | fallout | i created that ROOT directory because the logs had errors re: it not existing |
| 23:32.33 | fallout | it hasn't put any files in it |
| 23:32.43 | jasonb | Now show us how you have your ROOT.xml configured. Again, you can paste that in here if it's (at most) 3 or 4 lines long. |
| 23:32.43 | fallout | and it seems like only then did it actually expand the .war |
| 23:33.16 | fallout | <Context path="" debug="1" reloadable="true"> |
| 23:33.16 | fallout | </Context> |
| 23:33.58 | jasonb | Okay, that's the problem. |
| 23:34.10 | jasonb | You should define a docBase in your <Context>. |
| 23:34.12 | fallout | when i had appBase set to "webapps" and dobBase set to "/opt/confl/confluence-2.2.9/dist/atlassian-confluence-2.2.9.war" it worked fine.. |
| 23:34.29 | fallout | i guess i still don't understand what docBase is actually used for. |
| 23:34.49 | jasonb | appBase is a base directory where Tomcat should be able to find webapp directories or WAR files. |
| 23:34.53 | fallout | and why at one point it was used to specify webapps within the appbase, and with 5.5. it CAN'T be under the appbase. |
| 23:35.00 | jasonb | docBase is the document root of a single webapp. |
| 23:35.07 | fallout | ah |
| 23:35.23 | jasonb | docBase can indeed be under appBase, and usually is. |
| 23:36.04 | fallout | in 5.5 it seems to ignore it- stating that because it's below (tree-wise) the appbase, it won't be used. |
| 23:36.23 | jasonb | Hmm, I don't know what you mean by "below". |
| 23:36.35 | jasonb | encapsulated or not? |
| 23:37.29 | fallout | below as in a sub-directory in app base's tree |
| 23:37.34 | fallout | let me get the exact error |
| 23:37.45 | fallout | actually, |
| 23:38.01 | fallout | the 5.5 docs say it should be something other than the appbase for that reason, iirc |
| 23:38.45 | jasonb | docBase is usually a subdir of the appBase dir. But, the trick is that docBase must be *directly* in appBase. It can't really be like /whatever/appBase/some/other/dirs/docBase. It has to be /whatever/appBase/docBase/. |
| 23:39.06 | jasonb | Yeah, docBase can't really equal appBase. |
| 23:39.15 | fallout | k. |
| 23:40.10 | fallout | so should i point docBase to where it is expanding the war? or to that (empty) ROOT directory it wanted me to create? |
| 23:41.36 | jasonb | No. If you're using a war file, docBase should be the fully-qualified path to the war file itself. |
| 23:41.53 | fallout | hrm. i tried that earlier. |
| 23:41.57 | fallout | let me try again. |
| 23:42.32 | fallout | WARNING: A docBase /opt/confl/confluence-2.2.9/dist/atlassian-confluence-2.2.9.war inside the host appBase has been specified, and will be ignored |
| 23:42.36 | jasonb | Also, get rid of the debug="1" in your Context.. that's old, and not part of Tomcat 5.5.x. |
| 23:43.18 | fallout | done. |
| 23:43.20 | jasonb | hmm.. ok. I think I remember this now. |
| 23:43.39 | jasonb | Let me look at one of my webapp's context xml files for a second.. |
| 23:45.08 | fallout | i read today that docBase should be outside of appBase in 5.5, but i can't recall where it was. i thought it was in the tomcat docs. |
| 23:45.25 | jasonb | If you specify your Context in server.xml, it will allow you to do this. But, if you specify it in conf/[engine-name]/[host-name]/webappname.xml then it won't let you do it. |
| 23:46.28 | jasonb | The theory is: if you're specifying docBase, then you must be specifying one that is outside of appBase because if it was in appBase it would get auto-detected. That theory is crap, but that's what the committers are going by currently. |
| 23:46.56 | jasonb | The strange thing is: they are being inconsistent with themselves in that if you specify it in server.xml, it doesn't work that way. |
| 23:46.57 | fallout | ahhh |
| 23:47.34 | jasonb | If you don't intend to restart the context without restarting Tomcat, then I suggest you just configure it in server.xml. |
| 23:47.45 | fallout | well, i really hate to do that |
| 23:47.49 | jasonb | (and rm the file in conf/[engine-name]/[host-name]/) |
| 23:47.54 | fallout | but at least i have a better idea of what my options are. |
| 23:47.54 | jasonb | Why do you hate to do that? |
| 23:48.07 | fallout | because at this point i'm rebuilding the war frequently |
| 23:48.16 | jasonb | So? Tomcat can reload it. |
| 23:48.21 | fallout | though the server does restart pretty fast. |
| 23:48.28 | fallout | hrm. |
| 23:48.38 | jasonb | If you put a new war file in there, Tomcat will reload that if you set reloadable="true" on the Context. |
| 23:48.47 | fallout | ah |
| 23:48.49 | fallout | very well. |
| 23:49.01 | jasonb | Tomcat 6 restarts even faster. :) |
| 23:49.02 | fallout | thanks a lot. i'm going to see if i can get this workign and head home. ;) |
| 23:49.19 | jasonb | It should work as I describe it. |
| 23:50.31 | jasonb | If it doesn't, I'd sure like to know. |
| 23:50.58 | jasonb | I've actually re-documented all of this.. :) |
| 23:52.33 | fallout | heh |
| 23:52.43 | fallout | well, i'll let you know how it turns out in a sec. |
| 23:53.55 | fallout | so i should put the context in server.xml, specify the appBase, but do not specify the docBase? |
| 23:54.34 | jasonb | Specify appBase on the <Host> element, *and* specify docBase on the <Context> element. |
| 23:55.22 | jasonb | (in server.xml) |
| 23:57.00 | fallout | and the appBase is still /opt/confl/confluence-2.2.9/dist (parent dir of my .war) and docBase is still /opt/confl/confluence-2.2.9/dist/confluence-2.2.9.war? |
| 23:57.26 | jasonb | Yep. |
| 23:57.34 | jasonb | (if that's where you want 'em) |
| 23:58.12 | jasonb | If you would rather, you *could* have appBase be ${catalina.home}/webapps and docBase="confluence-2.2.9.war" |
| 23:58.24 | jasonb | Actually, I think I know why you had some problems... |
| 23:58.57 | jasonb | I didn't think you were specifying an absolute path in docBase. I thought you were specifying it as relative to appBase, which is what I meant for you to do.. |
| 23:59.08 | jasonb | Make docBase relative to appBase. |
| 23:59.21 | jasonb | For example, docBase="confluence-2.2.9.war" |
| 23:59.31 | fallout | gah |
| 23:59.48 | jasonb | Specifying an absolute one probably triggered your earlier problem, since Tomcat looks to see if it's relative or absolute, and acts differently for each. |
| 23:59.58 | fallout | i tried that a bit earlier, too |