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02:31.22Sembiancerofl!
02:31.27SembianceTomcat and JSP are soooo doomed.
02:31.28Sembiancehttp://www.google.com/trends?q=jsp%2Ctomcat&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
02:33.01pfnwhy would you say that
02:33.31Sembiancehrm.. can't think of a good reason really
02:33.36pfntrend shmend
02:33.41pfnbut jsf/seam seam reasonable
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02:42.04SembianceWhat's crazy is how JSP and ASP show almost all the top 10 hits are from India.  But search for PHP or Python and india is no where to be found in the top 10 (instead it's European countries and the USA respectively)
02:42.52SembianceIt's an interesting view on what programmers around the world use
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02:53.33pfnjsp and asp have all the certifications
02:53.38pfnand indian programmers are all about that
03:00.06SembianceWell if a programmer is driven towards being a certified lemming, JSP/ASP is purfect
03:01.35jasonbThat "Tomcat" search includes the F-14 Tomcat, which was just retired..
03:02.10Sembiancetrue
03:06.12JohnsonLeeHello all! Would tomcat 5.5.20 in Fedora 5 have no sub url when deploy?
03:07.14JohnsonLeeFor example <Context docBase="../Applications/HUTVSoccer/web" path="/java/HTVNSoccer" reloadable="true" debug="9" privileged="false" caseSensitive="false"  allowLinking="true" >
03:07.57JohnsonLeebut it do not deploy as /java/HTVNSoccer , it deploy as /HTVNSoccer
03:10.38JohnsonLeeBut such method is work in tomcat 5.0.28, do it something need to change in xml when deploy to 5.5?
03:16.31pfnI don't try to create stuff with sub uris
03:20.06JohnsonLeeooo. Are there any other method for access that site with /java/HTVNSoccer without not reinstall tomcat back to 5.0 ?
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04:13.18jasonbhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=fedora%2Cdebian%2Cgentoo%2Csuse&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
04:18.17pfnhttp://paste.hanhuy.com/npeInDialog.setVisible
04:18.23pfnthis is pissing me off... can't figure out why it's happening
04:18.35pfnthe claim is that I'm doing one of my setVisible calls not inside of the EDT...
04:18.50pfnbut it is...
04:19.26pfnfedora takes the lead in taiwan and japan huh, and in san francisco even
04:19.39pfnand australia
04:21.07pfnhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=java%2C.net&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
04:22.09odin_tends of java,asp,.net show java well on top
04:23.26odin_shows news articles up but searches down, maybe everyone is getting an education at last
04:30.32jasonbhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=Windows+xp%2C+linux&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
04:31.32jasonbEven in Seattle, more people are querying about Linux than about xp.
04:36.09jasonbhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=mod_jk%2C+mod_jk2%2C+mod_proxy&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
04:43.27jasonbhttp://www.google.com/trends?q=tomcat+4.1%2C+tomcat+5.0%2C+tomcat+5.5&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
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05:43.42jasonbNeat, Tomcat 6.0.0 (alpha) was tagged today.
05:56.29wsmoak_Yes, and I'm working with them on getting the jars (snapshots for now) into a Maven repo, (for those who care about such things.) :)
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10:00.22yassinemorning *
11:18.25harpoongreetings yassine
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11:29.20foxfreihi
11:29.22foxfreianyone know how to do this in jsp? <?php header("Location: http://www.example.com/") ?>
11:32.24harpoonif you tell me, what this does in php
11:33.13ytxistlabocfoxfrei, response.redirect("http://www.example.com/") might do the trick
11:34.48foxfreiytxistlaboc: thanks. would you mind telling what other code to put there to make a simple jsp file that i can put on the server to test that?
11:35.03foxfreiytxistlaboc: i know nothing about jsp. just wanna test something.
11:36.26foxfreior maybe a good site about jsp. like the www.php.net site for php
11:37.01foxfreiharpoon: it redirects you to a new URL
11:37.07harpoonfoxfrei: <% out.println("Hello world") %>
11:37.13harpoonSNCR
11:37.54foxfreiharpoon: ok. i can create an index.jsp file with just that line and it will work?
11:37.55yassinefoxfrei, request.addHeader/setHeader im not sure atm but its something like that
11:38.16yassineheya harpoon
11:38.30foxfreiwhat jsp server do you guys use?
11:38.46harpoonfoxfrei: what is the name of this channel?
11:38.53foxfreii know hehe
11:39.00harpoon*shaking head*
11:39.02foxfreijust that you might have anything better
11:39.21harpoonsomething better?!?
11:39.35foxfreiwe have oracle web server here. i don't know if you would say it's better
11:39.57foxfreinot considering the price of course
11:40.43harpoonfoxfrei: mmh
11:40.54harpooni never worked with oracle
11:41.41foxfreianyway, there's a jsp script that when runs on oracle server on windows it gives strage redirecting: e.g., if you enter the first url with http://10.11.1.1/index.jsp it will redirect you to http://servername.domainname/index2.jsp but it doesn't happen like that on the server running on AIX
11:42.10foxfreion AIX, it redirects you to http://10.11.1.1/index2.jsp
11:42.44foxfreiand the jsp file is too complex for me so i wanna try putting some simple script on.
11:42.44yassinefoxfrei, oracleAS is an Application server
11:43.09foxfreiyassine: with a web server as a component?
11:43.26yassineTomcat is a Servlets Container that is growing up to a web server
11:43.47yassinefoxfrei,  oracle AS does have indeed apache embeded into it
11:43.58foxfreiboth run .jsp, correct?
11:44.37foxfreiok. so i'm gonna install tomcat on my linux box. and try that code
11:45.05foxfreithanks all. i'll be back with the next question(s) :p
11:45.24harpoonfoxfrei: jsp is compiled into a java servlet
11:45.37harpoonthen the container runs that servlet
11:46.20foxfreiharpoon: can tomcat do the compilation? what command?
11:46.21harpoonand if you kind very kindly it talks with the application server (e.g. oracleAS) to do something
11:46.59harpoonfoxfrei: this compilation is done by one component of tomcat automaticly when calling the jsp first time
11:47.15foxfreiah. that's even easier then :)
11:47.42yassinefoxfrei,  you only need to deploy your jsp application _Corecctly_  the rest is done by the Cat
11:48.05foxfreiyassine: sounds like a great Cat
11:48.34foxfreiso why do you guys use jsp instead of php?
11:48.36yassines/corecctly/Correctly/
11:48.59foxfreii mean what can jsp do that php can't
11:49.13foxfreiapart from linking with oracle database server
11:49.25harpoonfoxfrei: better performance
11:49.27harpoonbetter code
11:49.39harpoonand better quality :-)
11:49.43foxfreii see
11:49.46yassinebetter scalability
11:49.56foxfreihow does it compare to java?
11:50.26foxfreihere they use java applet. i don't quite like it (i hate the look of java on web browser).
11:50.36foxfreii wonder why they don't use jsp
11:52.02harpoonfoxfrei: applets are client side like javascript
11:52.13harpoonjust with java-classes
11:52.32harpoonjsp are a nicer way writing servlets
11:52.43harpoonthey are serverside like php
11:53.23harpoonjsp is just a nice way for seperating the view from businesslogic
11:54.41harpoonexcept you has someone like one of my mates who was writing just one gigantic jsp putting all in
11:55.22harpoonjava-script, google-soap calls,  java code, some xquerys----
11:56.23foxfreiharpoon: i see
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14:09.50Blissex2Tomcat 5, works OK here, but something that (like much else) is not immediately obvious from the docs: how to have something like a 'DocumentRoot'? That is to bing to "/" as a location a particular webapp, like the example '/servlets-examples/servlet/RequestInfoExample' one?
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16:18.50fmeyerhowdy,
16:19.07fmeyersomeone know something about tomcat 6 ?
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22:26.12paul_milovanovhi all... 5.5.20 — have log4j.properties in webapp's WEB-INF/classes. In my webapp, I log through log4j and yet, strangely, for every line of output that I should be getting in correct formatting, there's a second line with just the unformatted message. can this be commons.logging output? I myself am actually logging explicitly through org.apache.log4j.Logger
23:09.20yassineevosh, there ?

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