| 00:01.34 | jasonb | thanks. How's it going? |
| 00:04.42 | Uvizor | Tired for no reason. |
| 00:05.26 | Uvizor | Usually when the climate changes, i.e. Summer to Automn, my mood goes from energatic to lethargic. |
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| 00:10.08 | death-sword | burp |
| 00:10.26 | death-sword | that happends when i jerk off |
| 00:13.31 | Uvizor | To gay porn? |
| 00:14.16 | Uvizor | death-sword: is it wrong if i like gay porn? |
| 00:14.34 | Uvizor | That must be the boldest confession in a while. |
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| 00:56.19 | death-sword | lol |
| 00:56.27 | death-sword | i wish women were more liek gay men |
| 00:56.40 | death-sword | funny how some women wish str8 men more like gay men |
| 00:56.42 | death-sword | lol |
| 00:56.46 | Uvizor | Like with a pair of balls? |
| 00:57.12 | death-sword | no |
| 00:57.17 | Uvizor | I don't think I would look at a woman the same if they were like gay men. |
| 00:57.19 | death-sword | want jump in bed anytime of day |
| 00:57.27 | death-sword | i know id like them |
| 00:57.31 | death-sword | theyd be cool |
| 00:57.32 | Uvizor | Gay people aren't like that. |
| 00:57.33 | death-sword | :) |
| 00:57.54 | Uvizor | Maybe men should be more like women. |
| 00:58.39 | Uvizor | That would probably result in 80% reduction in war and military conflicts. |
| 00:59.06 | Uvizor | And 10000% increase in designer clothes. |
| 00:59.24 | Uvizor | Argh! I think I'll go with war. |
| 01:01.30 | Uvizor | Iv'e noticed in the last week or so, the channel activity has slowed down to the grounding halt at nights. |
| 01:01.50 | Uvizor | That makes me so not wanting to fire up my IRC client in the next reboot. |
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| 02:00.35 | Uvizor | Ok guys, I was just joking, come back. |
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| 02:23.12 | Ivan | helo |
| 02:23.14 | Ivan | anybody here? |
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| 03:24.06 | Ivan | yo anybody here? |
| 03:26.29 | lyken | depends |
| 03:36.59 | vilefridge | on the going rate for a manhole cover. I hear they're cast iron. |
| 03:37.10 | lyken | wth |
| 03:38.35 | vilefridge | anyone seen jasonb kicking around today? |
| 03:39.31 | lyken | about 4hrs ago |
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| 03:43.36 | Ivan | can anybody hear me? |
| 03:43.36 | lyken | i can |
| 03:43.36 | Ivan | yay |
| 03:43.36 | Ivan | i got a problem |
| 03:43.48 | Ivan | the manager/admin apps work when I open on IE but give 403 on firefox - i cleared cookies - any idea? |
| 03:44.06 | lyken | hmm |
| 03:44.18 | lyken | so you go http://localhost:8080/manager/html ? |
| 03:45.00 | Ivan | ya |
| 03:45.08 | lyken | and get a 403? |
| 03:45.20 | lyken | do the logs say anything? |
| 03:45.21 | Ivan | yep |
| 03:45.39 | Ivan | access denied that's it |
| 03:46.14 | lyken | weird.. |
| 03:47.25 | lyken | what roles are in your tomcat-users.xml ? |
| 03:49.04 | Ivan | admin, manager, tomcat, all 3 for that user |
| 03:49.36 | lyken | can you paste the tomcat-users file to a paste site/ |
| 03:49.53 | Ivan | it works just fine on IE but not firefox, i'm pretty sure my users file is fine |
| 03:50.44 | lyken | oks |
| 03:50.49 | lyken | well that is the only thing i could think of |
| 03:55.04 | vilefridge | thx lyken |
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| 09:13.13 | dvayanu | re |
| 09:15.06 | swente | moin |
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| 09:23.10 | pucko | korv |
| 09:25.14 | dvayanu | have to test something |
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| 09:26.19 | dvayanu | hmm |
| 09:26.38 | dvayanu | i thought with adding adress to the list the nickserv will not ask me for identification again |
| 09:27.03 | pucko | I think it will always ask |
| 09:27.16 | dvayanu | so what is the access list for? |
| 09:28.27 | dvayanu | If you use a |
| 09:28.27 | dvayanu | [11:28] [Notice] -NickServ- hostmask that is not on your ACCESS list, you must |
| 09:28.27 | dvayanu | [11:28] [Notice] -NickServ- IDENTIFY with NickServ. |
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| 12:33.17 | nevele | what would cause apache not to proxy one app when all the other apps are proxying fine? Is there anything other than the workers.properties file that would affect proxying? Is the order that apps are listed in the workers.properties file relavent? |
| 12:35.21 | nevele | For one app, im getting a "Not Found" error, yet the workers.properties file is the same for all apps.. any idea? |
| 12:36.49 | dvayanu | hmm... i'm creating mapping per vhost and webapp name |
| 12:36.52 | nevele | (the app that is not proxying comes up fine if i hit 8080 directly) |
| 12:37.03 | dvayanu | you are proxying everything? |
| 12:37.53 | nevele | yes |
| 12:39.11 | nevele | all the other apps proxy fine, just have no idea why this one app is not.. |
| 12:41.40 | nevele | and the workers.poperties file has the same config for all the apps |
| 12:47.42 | aaronc | I'm a sysadmin, not so much a java dev... if you had like 100 tomcat servers, what mechanisms are built into tomcat to allow for a centralized log server? |
| 12:48.48 | aaronc | Also, is there a way to rotate tomcat system and application specific logs without restarting tomcat and using logrotate? |
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| 13:41.53 | dvayanu | has someone ever compared lighttpd vs tomcat in serving static pageS? |
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| 15:10.54 | Basic | hello |
| 15:12.43 | Basic | guess no one is here, but I'll leave my question and maybe someone can get back to me |
| 15:13.04 | Basic | is it possible to run tomcat as a webserver, not just as a servlet runner? |
| 15:13.28 | lyken | why would you? |
| 15:13.32 | Basic | I know it can server html pages, but as far as php, cgi scripts or javascript? |
| 15:13.34 | lyken | when httpd does a top job of that.. |
| 15:13.42 | Basic | its a long story |
| 15:13.48 | Basic | but the short of it is |
| 15:13.58 | Basic | I wrote my own proxy servlet that needs to run on port 80 |
| 15:14.11 | Basic | but I still have web content that needs to be served |
| 15:14.42 | Basic | because of firewall restrictions, and I cannot use the rewrite engine or mod_proxy because they cause a buffer issue with my live feed proxy |
| 15:14.46 | lyken | so you wrote a servlet that acts as a proxy? |
| 15:14.50 | Basic | yes |
| 15:15.09 | lyken | why didnt you just put your ssh port on port 443, then reverse ssh tunnel to a real proxy on that same box ( i do that to get around my uni restrictions) |
| 15:15.53 | Basic | cause the problem with all the 'real' http proxies is they don't assume continous responses |
| 15:15.55 | Basic | and buffer |
| 15:16.08 | Basic | I need the proxy to pass data as soon as it comes back, not when it 'all' gets there |
| 15:16.29 | Basic | so I wrote my own :) |
| 15:16.35 | Basic | which does not buffer |
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| 15:17.04 | Basic | am I making sense? |
| 15:17.22 | lyken | yer |
| 15:17.36 | lyken | i just see that if you used an ssh tunnel this wouldnt even be an issue heh |
| 15:17.55 | Basic | I'm not really even sure how that would work to be honest |
| 15:18.03 | lyken | windows user? |
| 15:18.06 | Basic | can you explain it to me or point me to a place where I can read up on it |
| 15:18.17 | Basic | mostly, I just started work at a new place which is all unix |
| 15:18.24 | lyken | well sshd runs on port 22 |
| 15:18.28 | Basic | k |
| 15:18.41 | lyken | if you run a second sshd on prt 443 (https port) the firewall at your school wont bloack it |
| 15:18.49 | lyken | so you can ssh to that server without restriction |
| 15:19.07 | lyken | once you've done that, you can setup a tunnel and access the net unrestricted |
| 15:19.19 | lyken | assuming you have a proxy server of some sort on that port 443 sshd box |
| 15:19.20 | Basic | yeah except I have the opposite problem :) |
| 15:19.38 | Basic | the access from the clients to our servers is restricted to port 80 |
| 15:19.51 | Basic | its no proble mfor us to open additional ports, but the clients cannot get out on anything but 80 |
| 15:20.03 | Basic | so we have to accept on 80 and hand it off internally |
| 15:20.11 | lyken | oh fun |
| 15:20.15 | Basic | yeah.. |
| 15:20.17 | lyken | well the answer to your question is it can be done |
| 15:20.22 | lyken | but itll be painful |
| 15:20.26 | lyken | and you'll set fire to your workplace |
| 15:20.34 | Basic | I'm used to painfull... I'm a programmer |
| 15:20.46 | lyken | when you could just setup httpd + mod_proxy |
| 15:21.03 | Basic | mod_proxy bufferes responses :( |
| 15:21.05 | Basic | I tried that first |
| 15:21.07 | lyken | arh |
| 15:21.11 | lyken | no idea then dude sorry |
| 15:21.20 | ulfdag | Hi. I am setting up apache 2.052 with tomcat 5.5.17 using virtual hosts. |
| 15:21.21 | Basic | and it even ahs a freaking parameter ProxyIOBufferSize |
| 15:21.23 | Basic | which does nothing :P |
| 15:21.53 | Basic | lyken but as far as having tomcat serve php and/or cgi pages> |
| 15:22.36 | ulfdag | Can someone help me with configuring the JkMount in my virtual host file? |
| 15:22.50 | lyken | Basic: ive heard it being done |
| 15:22.55 | lyken | im yet to see anyone successful.. |
| 15:22.59 | Basic | alright, I'll do some googling then |
| 15:23.02 | Basic | damn it |
| 15:23.17 | Basic | I was thinking I can proxy connections through tomcat to another apache server |
| 15:23.20 | ulfdag | I will provide whatever info that could be useful in resolving the problem. |
| 15:23.26 | Basic | on some other port |
| 15:23.33 | Basic | but then its really a mess... |
| 15:24.28 | lyken | it sounds like its a mess already :) |
| 15:25.09 | Basic | well yeah... |
| 15:25.15 | Basic | but at some point I have to pass this plan off to my manager lol |
| 15:25.26 | Basic | and I'd like there to be as few 'issues' as possible :) |
| 15:40.11 | yassinework | sup lyken |
| 15:40.38 | lyken | about to go to bed |
| 15:40.38 | lyken | heh |
| 15:51.48 | swente | . |
| 16:18.18 | yassinework | . |
| 16:18.23 | yassinework | swente, sup there ? |
| 16:18.34 | swente | all fine |
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| 17:20.07 | aaronc | can anyone help me with Tomcat logging question? |
| 17:20.26 | aaronc | What's a good way to rotate logs? |
| 17:23.21 | jasonb | aaronc: Which OS and OS version are you running? |
| 17:23.32 | aaronc | linux RHEL4 |
| 17:23.47 | aaronc | I currently use logrotate, but this seems to require a restart of tomcat |
| 17:23.48 | jasonb | aaronc: It's probably best to use logrotate. |
| 17:23.54 | aaronc | just trying to find a better way |
| 17:24.01 | jasonb | A restart of Tomcat to do what? |
| 17:24.22 | jasonb | Put your Tomcat logrotate config on a paste server so I can see how you're configuring it. |
| 17:24.23 | aaronc | a restart of tomcat to get tomcat to continue logging to the new file |
| 17:24.57 | jasonb | It does not require a restart if you configure it like this: |
| 17:24.59 | jasonb | /opt/tomcat/logs/catalina.out { |
| 17:24.59 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.59 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.59 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.00 | jasonb | } |
| 17:27.03 | aaronc | hmmm... ok... pastebin is being slow |
| 17:27.43 | aaronc | I'll check that out... I could swear that logging stopped working |
| 17:27.59 | aaronc | http://pastebin.com/791325 |
| 17:28.47 | jasonb | Yeah, pastebin is way slow.. must be written in php or something! |
| 17:28.54 | aaronc | heheh |
| 17:29.52 | jasonb | Wow, that's a pretty clever logrotate config.. |
| 17:29.55 | jasonb | # |
| 17:29.55 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.55 | jasonb | # |
| 17:29.56 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.56 | jasonb | # |
| 17:29.56 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.24 | jasonb | How can you be sure that the Tomcat JVM process will be all the way stopped and gone within 3 seconds? :) |
| 17:30.29 | aaronc | heheh |
| 17:30.37 | aaronc | yes ... its a crude hack |
| 17:30.54 | aaronc | the start/stop script does some more checking |
| 17:30.56 | jasonb | If you used my RPM, then you would have reliable restarts, and that would collapse down to a one liner: service tomcat restart |
| 17:31.16 | aaronc | but nothing like "check for a pid, make pid die, write new pid file" |
| 17:31.20 | jasonb | But, with copytruncate in the logrotate config, you don't need the restart anyway. |
| 17:31.25 | ulfdag | How do I solve "Directory index forbidden by rule:" error in tomcat-apache 5.5.17? |
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| 17:31.44 | aaronc | alright... thanks jasonb |
| 17:31.50 | jasonb | aaronc: You're welcome. |
| 17:32.01 | jasonb | ulfdag: What comes after the colon? |
| 17:32.34 | ulfdag | the name of the directory that I refer to in DocumentRoot in the virtual host file. |
| 17:33.49 | jasonb | ulfdag: And what file are you seeing this message in? |
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| 17:35.55 | ulfdag | in the /tomcat1/logs/errorlog created by tomcat |
| 17:37.12 | pucko | ? |
| 17:37.21 | pucko | but tomcat can rotate it's own logs? |
| 17:38.29 | randrew | let log4j do all the log rotating |
| 17:38.36 | ulfdag | I am using log4j. |
| 17:38.36 | jasonb | pucko: It may be able to do it in 5.5 with JULI, but I haven't researched that yet. :) I know how to do it easily with logrotate though. |
| 17:38.50 | ulfdag | max size 10mb and max backupindex=20 |
| 17:38.52 | jasonb | randrew: How do you configure that? :) |
| 17:39.20 | jasonb | randrew: (for Tomcat's own logs?) |
| 17:39.50 | ulfdag | you just configure the log4j.properties to your suiting. |
| 17:40.39 | jasonb | ulfdag: That's the problem with log4j, nobody gives any examples that actually work. |
| 17:40.52 | aaronc | pucko: what about if you are using tomcat 4.1.x and tomcat 5.0.x ? |
| 17:41.19 | ulfdag | I can give my properties if it helps? |
| 17:41.45 | pucko | hm. |
| 17:41.47 | aaronc | oh... here's a good question... can log4j or some similar facility let you send logs to a remote logserver? |
| 17:42.03 | ulfdag | Oh, that I have not yet pondered! |
| 17:42.26 | ulfdag | cannot get tomcat and apache to server jsp pages yet. |
| 17:42.35 | aaronc | I'd love to be able to setup a centralized log server for Devs to use so I don't have to worry about giving sudo access to production servers |
| 17:42.44 | swente | aaronc: log4j.SyslogAppender? |
| 17:43.18 | aaronc | swente: ooohhhhh.... I can imagine what that does... is that detailed at apache.org somewhere? |
| 17:44.04 | swente | aaronc: please google for it, i can't help you off-mind with it:) |
| 17:44.15 | swente | (say: i don't know where the docs are :) ) |
| 17:44.17 | aaronc | will do... thanks for the keyword |
| 17:44.41 | jasonb | ulfdag: If your log4j properties rolls Tomcat's log files, I'd certainly like to see them, so please put them on a paste server. |
| 17:44.43 | pucko | http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.0-doc/config/valve.html |
| 17:44.44 | randrew | jasonb: can't dig this up just now. |
| 17:44.52 | pucko | on AccessLogValve |
| 17:45.09 | randrew | jasonb: may have had to use the xml config of log4j which is not well doc'ed. |
| 17:45.27 | jasonb | randrew: IMHO no part of log4j is well documented. |
| 17:45.51 | randrew | jasonb: gotta run to a meeting. I think we bought the book for someone here and he figured it out : P |
| 17:46.08 | jasonb | randrew: Okay.. have fun in your beating. :) |
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| 17:46.54 | ulfdag | could my problem be that I do not have a <Directory "/dir/dir/file"> in my virtual host file? |
| 17:47.33 | jasonb | ulfdag: I believe that error message does not come from Tomcat at all.. it isn't in the Tomcat source tree. |
| 17:49.48 | ulfdag | Strange. I guess than the problem is due to my apache setup. |
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| 17:51.12 | randrew | hehe |
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| 17:54.15 | ulfdag | How do I solve the "Could not find a worker for worker name=wrkr"? |
| 17:54.58 | ulfdag | I have a /etc/httpd/conf/workers.propertie with worker.list=wrkr |
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| 17:56.00 | darin_1 | Is there a detailed procedure somewhere to get tomcat 4.1.31 to autostart under FC5? (or an rpm for 4.1.31) |
| 17:59.10 | jasonb | ulfdag: The way to solve it is to use mod_proxy. |
| 17:59.45 | ulfdag | you mean enable mod_proxy in httpd.conf |
| 17:59.47 | chrismon | heh |
| 17:59.54 | chrismon | jasonb the evangelist ;) |
| 17:59.59 | jasonb | darin_1: You're going to have a hard time finding people who want to work on updating the RPM for two-major-versions-ago Tomcat. :) |
| 18:00.07 | jasonb | chrismon: I'm busted. :) |
| 18:00.31 | chrismon | heh |
| 18:00.45 | ulfdag | what do I need to do with mod_proxy? |
| 18:00.46 | darin_1 | how about lastest tomcat4 rpm? |
| 18:01.22 | darin_1 | I'm stuck using tomcat4 instead of 5 due to software requirements (opennms) |
| 18:02.52 | jasonb | darin_1: There is a tomcat4 RPM. I believe you can find it on jpackage.org. It's probably not all the way up to date with the TC 4.1 branch. |
| 18:03.34 | darin_1 | thanks, I'll check it out. |
| 18:03.37 | jasonb | It's 4.1.31. |
| 18:06.31 | darin_1 | I got a newbie question. (I'm windows network admin in uncharted territory) What is noarch ? |
| 18:08.04 | aaronc | means it doesn't matter if you install it on i386, i686, athlon, whatever... it will work with any architecture |
| 18:08.14 | aaronc | not architecture depedent |
| 18:08.29 | darin_1 | ah, ok. thanks |
| 18:09.07 | darin_1 | I'm a little new to linux |
| 18:09.30 | aaronc | welcome |
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| 18:33.08 | chrismon | oh boy |
| 18:33.14 | chrismon | this has started again |
| 18:33.31 | chrismon | http://pastebin.ca/178895 |
| 18:36.10 | jasonb | chrismon: Which version of Tomcat? |
| 18:37.03 | chrismon | 5.5.17 |
| 18:37.24 | chrismon | there's just no reason this could be from something I did in the past few minutes |
| 18:37.58 | jasonb | Did you just upgrade to 5.5.17? |
| 18:38.08 | jasonb | Also, do you have custom error pages configured? |
| 18:38.14 | jasonb | (in your webapp?) |
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| 18:40.53 | chrismon | nope and yep |
| 18:41.02 | chrismon | this has all been working fin all day |
| 18:41.18 | chrismon | i made some innocuous tweaks to a struts form and jsp, and kablam |
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| 18:42.57 | jasonb | Well, one thing I notice in your stack trace is that you're using sitemesh, which adds a huge amount to the stack trace. It's like it tries to serve a page, throws an exception, gets re-routed to the error page, which either itself throws an exception or just uses sitemesh (not sure which), then sitemesh ends up doing a huge amount of things that makes the stack trace even longer.. |
| 18:43.21 | jasonb | In short, your webapp is at least bloated in this particular request's case.. maybe even buggy. *gasp* |
| 18:43.42 | chrismon | unfortunately, that's something i have no control over |
| 18:43.54 | chrismon | (and that has not recently changed) |
| 18:46.02 | chrismon | woah |
| 18:46.15 | chrismon | i took out some really simple code, and it just deployed... might coincidental |
| 18:46.34 | chrismon | going to back in/out the change to test |
| 18:46.39 | jasonb | chrismon: Well, even if it hasn't recently changed much, that doesn't change the fact that you're way out on a limb there.. any slight stack deviation could cause a stack overflow. |
| 18:46.52 | jasonb | chrismon: I wonder if there's a way to increase the max stack limit.. :) |
| 18:47.38 | chrismon | hah i can barely keep that shit in my konsole's buffer as it is! |
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| 18:52.11 | chrismon | ok i think we've got it |
| 18:52.42 | chrismon | there's a filter which processes Constants.java (Struts-ism) |
| 18:53.05 | chrismon | i haven't looked intot he details yet, but I think it is very unhappy with things that aren't Strings, or at least not Objects |
| 18:53.19 | chrismon | so, i.e., this primitive int I'm using is causing it to explode |
| 18:53.25 | chrismon | how fubar |
| 18:54.01 | jasonb | The stack does have a limit.. |
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| 19:01.30 | dvayanu | re |
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| 19:06.36 | chrismon | man, what a nutso error |
| 19:06.44 | chrismon | its taken me so long to figure that one out |
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| 19:17.29 | Basic | has anyone here configured CGI to work properly with tomcat? |
| 19:18.07 | Basic | I followed the brief instructions on the webpage, but my CGI scripts are just being pasted into the browser isntead of being executed |
| 19:18.19 | Basic | instead* |
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| 19:26.31 | Basic | no one aye? |
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| 20:05.02 | pfn | jasonb my RIA/jnlp app is coming together: http://www.hanhuy.com/~pfnguyen/ria1.jpg |
| 20:05.30 | pfn | that's my app's representation of https://www.hanhuy.com/album/hanhuy/tahoe2006/ |
| 20:05.31 | pfn | :) |
| 20:07.15 | jasonb | pfn: Wow.. the tree view looks great! |
| 20:07.34 | pfn | jasonb yeah, I especially like how I have the data retrieval going :) |
| 20:07.39 | jasonb | pfn: I want something like that, just drawn as a web page. |
| 20:08.00 | pfn | yeah, I don't care for that in a web page much |
| 20:08.07 | pfn | I prefer having breadcrumbs to navigate around |
| 20:08.24 | pfn | had to hack up commons-httpclient to do inline authentication which is kind of a hack |
| 20:08.25 | pfn | heh |
| 20:08.27 | jasonb | pfn: Who will be using your webstart page? |
| 20:08.33 | jasonb | pfn: Relatives? |
| 20:08.40 | pfn | jasonb just internal users/admins yeah, relatives more or less |
| 20:09.06 | pfn | mostly this is the interface for loading up images and writing blog entries without the web interface |
| 20:09.15 | pfn | batch loading, resizing, rotation, etc. happens here |
| 20:09.31 | pfn | it's too much of a pain in the ass to do an interactive web ui |
| 20:09.35 | pfn | besides basic crud |
| 20:09.46 | jasonb | pfn: That is interesting because it's client side, so you take advantage of the client CPU power. |
| 20:10.20 | pfn | jasonb eats bandwidth like crazy, heh... my image retrieval isn't exactly nice yet ;-) |
| 20:10.45 | jasonb | pfn: That is something that would not be an issue if it was written as a web page. |
| 20:11.02 | jasonb | pfn: But, then, you can't use the client's CPU to resize images, for instance. |
| 20:11.05 | pfn | jasonb actually, the issue exists in both cases |
| 20:11.12 | pfn | bandwidth, that is |
| 20:11.20 | pfn | since the thumbnails must be transmitted to the client regardless |
| 20:11.30 | pfn | only problem is that there can be more images displayed per page than in the web client |
| 20:11.31 | jasonb | pfn: The thumbnails are way smaller though. |
| 20:11.34 | pfn | and the interactivity of it |
| 20:11.56 | pfn | you're talking about resizing views on the client? oh, no, I don't do that |
| 20:12.00 | pfn | I resize images at upload time |
| 20:12.01 | pfn | not download |
| 20:12.11 | pfn | on-the-fly resize sucks |
| 20:12.37 | jasonb | No, I mean when you upload them into the repository, you resize them at some point, either on the client or on the server. |
| 20:12.44 | pfn | right |
| 20:12.52 | pfn | I haven't determined where I'll do that yet |
| 20:12.58 | jasonb | I want to store the full resolution images on the server, and present a smaller size by default, and allow the full size to be served if the user wants it. |
| 20:13.08 | pfn | jasonb that's what my gallery does |
| 20:13.13 | pfn | if you've browsed it any |
| 20:13.22 | pfn | it presents 4 size options "small" "medium" ... "full" |
| 20:13.43 | jasonb | I'm tired of silly 640x480 resolution pics served by picasa and flickr and sites like that. I want my users/relatives to be able to see the fine detail in the full resolution images if they want to. |
| 20:14.21 | jasonb | Yup, your web page gallery is nice. |
| 20:15.46 | pfn | http://svntrac.hanhuy.com/repo/browser/hanhuy/trunk/cms/src/com/hanhuy/ria/ui/AlbumViewPanel.java (I <3 spring) heh |
| 20:16.04 | pfn | although, I don't think that includes any example of spring in action... except the "AlbumService" |
| 20:17.23 | jasonb | ugh.. inner classes.. |
| 20:17.34 | dvayanu | jason: applet :-) |
| 20:17.36 | pfn | yeah, just temporary--and they're not inner |
| 20:17.47 | pfn | inner classes imply within the scope of a clss |
| 20:17.55 | dvayanu | jasonb: hi btw |
| 20:17.59 | pfn | these are just nested package classes :p |
| 20:18.01 | jasonb | hi dvayanu |
| 20:18.05 | pfn | temporary until I refactor code |
| 20:18.43 | jasonb | pfn: well, okay. I guess I always heard them referred to as "inner classes". Whatever they're called, I don't like 'em. :) |
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| 20:19.12 | Ivan | Hey I got a question - when setting up tomcat with apache and trying to access anything I get a 403 forbidden, any idea? |
| 20:19.31 | pfn | jasonb I usually promote classes to public if there's an actual re-usable interface |
| 20:19.50 | pfn | otherwise, helper classes get tossed in the same file |
| 20:19.55 | jasonb | pfn: Did you write the web gallery you're serving? |
| 20:20.01 | pfn | yes |
| 20:20.21 | jasonb | pfn: Can you give me a url to your track svn where I can see the code? (also, what license?) |
| 20:20.34 | pfn | http://svntrac.hanhuy.com |
| 20:20.47 | pfn | I haven't determined a license, I mentioned before either lgpl or apache style |
| 20:21.19 | jasonb | pfn: You probably even gave me that link before. :) Yes, I remember now.. please use a BSD/MIT style license! |
| 20:21.34 | pfn | any particular reason why? |
| 20:21.46 | pfn | (so I can make an informed decision when opening it, of course) |
| 20:22.23 | jasonb | pfn: We already had a long discussion about it. :) But, in short, I want to be able to adopt/mix/match code that is actually free.. including for commercial use. |
| 20:22.29 | dvayanu | pfn: MIT - evberyone can use it, no questions asked |
| 20:22.31 | dvayanu | the shortest |
| 20:22.41 | pfn | indeed |
| 20:23.00 | dvayanu | jasonb: actually it has another name |
| 20:23.09 | jasonb | pfn: I prefer any MIT or BSD style license that does not have any advertizing clause, and I don't have a bad attitude about anti-patent clauses. |
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| 20:24.09 | con--- | hi, can I access one web app from several subdomains? and find out in the web app, which subdomain was used? |
| 20:24.16 | pfn | jasonb I'll keep it in mind... I'd like to leave my options open for making money off of it if I can (while still retaining an open license) |
| 20:24.38 | jasonb | pfn: That's what the MIT and BSD licenses are all about. |
| 20:24.38 | pfn | I need to evaluate it further when I get the codebase more complete |
| 20:25.04 | pfn | jasonb anyway, if you want read access to the entire tree (instead of just browsing) I can give you an svn id |
| 20:25.14 | pfn | (browsing through trac) |
| 20:26.21 | dvayanu | pfn: one more word about licenses, use (l)gpl only if you believe in their mission |
| 20:26.22 | jasonb | pfn: So far just browsing is fine. I would want to get more involved in the code if it was non-GPL OSS licensed, but until you put a license on it I shouldn't really even look.. |
| 20:26.42 | dvayanu | <-- dont |
| 20:26.45 | jasonb | dvayanu: You mean if you believe RMS to be sane? :) |
| 20:26.47 | pfn | alright, I'll make it more of a priority to put in a license, then |
| 20:26.54 | pfn | dvayanu indeed |
| 20:27.00 | pfn | and the apache license? considered a bsd-style license? |
| 20:27.34 | jasonb | pfn: Apache License is a BSD style license *with* an advertizing clause, and now (V2) with an anti-patent clause. |
| 20:27.45 | dvayanu | pfn: why do you want to make life complicated? |
| 20:28.14 | pfn | dvayanu? |
| 20:28.17 | pfn | how so? |
| 20:28.28 | dvayanu | pfn: the MIT license is the shortest to read and understand |
| 20:28.42 | pfn | what is are advertising and anti-patent clauses? |
| 20:28.53 | jasonb | dvayanu: The MIT license (unchanged) has no anti-patent clause. :) |
| 20:29.25 | dvayanu | http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php |
| 20:29.33 | dvayanu | all licenses there |
| 20:29.40 | pfn | hmm, all advertising material must remain intact |
| 20:29.56 | dvayanu | jasonb: what do i need the anti-patent clause for? |
| 20:30.17 | jasonb | pfn: Advertizing clause is a section of the license that says something like: If you take this code and make a derivative, closed or not, your derivative must print "includes code from the really cool Apache Software Foundation" even if that'll make people not want your product anymore. :) |
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| 20:30.34 | con--- | is there something like mod_rewrite in tomcat? |
| 20:30.46 | dvayanu | con: UrlRewriteFilter -> google is your friend |
| 20:30.50 | columbo | con---: urlrewrite |
| 20:31.06 | con--- | ah ok so I could map abc.example.com to www.example.com/?abc ? |
| 20:31.08 | columbo | i love that filter |
| 20:31.37 | jasonb | pfn: Anti patent clause adds license restrictions on the user of the code that prevent them from patenting anything that would allow them to tell the original author to cease and desist all development on the grounds that the user of the code now owns the "intellectual property" of the work. |
| 20:31.40 | Ivan | SERIOUSLY can somebody plz help me? I've followed tomcat's connector tutorial to set up a basic mod_jk, everything seems fine, logs are clean, but whenever I try to access my website I get 403 forbidden!!!! |
| 20:31.47 | columbo | yeah i think you can use the condition type header |
| 20:32.21 | pfn | indeed, sounds like a safe thing to have |
| 20:32.21 | columbo | and redirect con--- |
| 20:32.21 | jasonb | Ivan: You should not install Tomcat in *the* most complex configuration possible if you cannot debug it yourself. Run Tomcat stand-alone without Apache httpd. |
| 20:32.26 | Ivan | i did that |
| 20:32.32 | Ivan | i have no problem running tomcat standalone |
| 20:32.34 | jasonb | Okay, then you're done. |
| 20:32.34 | Ivan | and apache standalone |
| 20:32.39 | con--- | columbo: I need to hide this from the user though, so any subsequent pages also have to appear on abc.example.com |
| 20:32.48 | Ivan | but I wanna run tomcat through apache since I need PHP as well |
| 20:32.49 | jasonb | mod_jk is broken. |
| 20:32.53 | dvayanu | jasonb: hmm, can they patent something which was there BEFORE? |
| 20:32.56 | Ivan | huh? |
| 20:33.02 | jasonb | Ivan: Use mod_proxy |
| 20:33.03 | columbo | con---: thats the manual, its a flexible filter > http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/manual/2.6/ |
| 20:33.04 | jasonb | ibot: mod_proxy |
| 20:33.06 | ibot | from memory, mod_proxy is at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/proxy-howto.html |
| 20:33.17 | con--- | columbo: thanks very much |
| 20:33.24 | jasonb | dvayanu: Of course they can. The US patent system is completely b0rked, and allows it just fine. |
| 20:33.24 | Ivan | what's mod proxy? |
| 20:33.31 | columbo | con---: i'm sure you can figure out what you need they have lets of examples http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/manual/2.6/guide.html |
| 20:33.38 | jasonb | Ivan: That's what the URL I just gave you is all about. |
| 20:33.43 | Ivan | how come they don't mention anything about mod_jk on tomcat's website? they got "stable" releases |
| 20:33.56 | pfn | mod_jk is broken? |
| 20:33.58 | jasonb | Ivan: Because they just want to taunt you. |
| 20:34.00 | pfn | and you can only use mod_proxy in 2.2+ |
| 20:34.01 | dvayanu | jasonb: uhm... can i patent moskito? i mean the principle of collecting values over time intervals? |
| 20:34.05 | Ivan | why would they want to do that? |
| 20:34.05 | pfn | mod_proxy_ajp |
| 20:34.12 | pfn | I'm still using mod_jk... |
| 20:34.22 | jasonb | dvayanu: Probably. We could probably each patent whatever we want. :) |
| 20:34.29 | con--- | columbo: thanks I'll have a look |
| 20:34.46 | dvayanu | jasonb: and i can sue redhat for providing /proc/loadavg? |
| 20:34.47 | Ivan | seriously is there something wrong with mod_jk? |
| 20:34.50 | columbo | sure man, i'm working with it now :) |
| 20:35.00 | jasonb | Ivan: They're actually under the impression that mod_jk works, when in fact it doesn't... for you for instance.. and for most others. |
| 20:35.16 | Ivan | who's they? I thought everyone was using it? |
| 20:35.24 | jasonb | dvayanu: Probably. Anyone can sue anyone for anything.. whether you could *win* doing that is another question though. |
| 20:35.45 | jasonb | Ivan: Everyone is jumping off bridges. |
| 20:36.06 | Ivan | no are u sure of that? pfn says he's running it just fine? |
| 20:36.08 | dvayanu | ivan: thats true, my sysadmin is still lying there |
| 20:36.27 | Ivan | are you guys all high here or are you just admins with sense of humor? |
| 20:36.44 | jasonb | Why couldn't we be both? |
| 20:36.54 | Ivan | jesus |
| 20:37.00 | dvayanu | admins with sense of humor... |
| 20:37.01 | columbo | :D - admins have a sense of humor? |
| 20:37.06 | dvayanu | i doubt they exist |
| 20:37.15 | pfn | I hear people have problems with mod_jk... I don't |
| 20:37.22 | Ivan | wait so can mod_proxy do everything that mod_jk did? Like the SSL and all that? |
| 20:38.06 | jasonb | Ivan: I think you should read this page: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 20:38.19 | dvayanu | pfn: considered using intel open source license? or sleepycat license? they aren't good, but they sound cool |
| 20:38.26 | pfn | apache 2.0 license sounds good enough for me |
| 20:38.58 | Ivan | jasonb is that an insult? :) |
| 20:39.05 | jasonb | pfn: On the average, it's a very good license. I just take issue with the advertizing clause. That doesn't stop me from contributing to code bases that are licensed under that license though. |
| 20:39.05 | pfn | need to make sure the code I use is compatible (license-wise) |
| 20:39.09 | pfn | (libraries) |
| 20:39.18 | jasonb | Ivan: Education should not be an insult. |
| 20:39.36 | pfn | mod_jk doesn't do ssl |
| 20:39.42 | jasonb | pfn: Yeah, you do need to do that. Using any lgpl libraries? |
| 20:39.44 | pfn | in fact, ajp isn't even a secure transport, is it? |
| 20:39.56 | Ivan | jasonb it's just that my question is pretty much as intelligent as it can be... i followed the instructions percisely as described, i got them working standalone no problem, but with mod_jk I get 403 |
| 20:40.12 | pfn | I'm using spring, incava diff, cougaar code, drewnoakes exif extraction, etc. |
| 20:40.18 | jasonb | Ivan: I already gave you the answer, though. |
| 20:40.47 | pfn | and markdownj, heh |
| 20:40.48 | jasonb | Ivan: And, it was an honest answer.. except for the part about everyone jumping off bridges (I was just trying to see if you would, if everyone else was doing it..) |
| 20:41.11 | Ivan | can someone confirm mod_jk being broken? |
| 20:41.15 | pfn | need to verify those things... would suck to have to find another markup processor (but in that cse, I could make it pluggable, I suppose) |
| 20:41.22 | pfn | try it, if it doesn't work, it's b0rked |
| 20:41.23 | pfn | :p |
| 20:41.25 | jasonb | pfn: I believe the exif extraction library is lgpl.. do you have the project page URL for that one? |
| 20:41.25 | pfn | done deal :) |
| 20:41.42 | pfn | http://www.drewnoakes.com/code/exif/ |
| 20:41.48 | pfn | of course, I know where I get all my libraries |
| 20:43.49 | jasonb | pfn: Wow, that actually looks mostly unlicensed.. although right on the web page there is a paragraph of text that probably constitutes a license. |
| 20:44.22 | pfn | yeah |
| 20:44.30 | pfn | well, gonna take a quick gander at the code to make sure |
| 20:45.09 | pfn | oh, and imagemagick/jmagick, that's going to be relatively important if I can't find other nicer ways to manipulate my images |
| 20:45.11 | jasonb | ditto |
| 20:45.20 | dvayanu | cool announcement: We will be performing unplanned maintenance on our server on 21 September at 13.00, 16.00, and 19.00 MSK. |
| 20:45.37 | dvayanu | pfn: no, please, dont use it |
| 20:45.45 | dvayanu | pfn: full of security holes |
| 20:45.53 | dvayanu | pfn: and a GREAT pain |
| 20:46.04 | pfn | oh, I plan on using it from an external service |
| 20:46.09 | pfn | can't run it within tomcat itself |
| 20:46.11 | dvayanu | pfn: check JAI |
| 20:46.24 | dvayanu | pfn: and imageJ is told to be cool |
| 20:46.28 | pfn | was planning on running jmagick in an on-demand "service" |
| 20:46.58 | pfn | server needs image processing done, launches external jmagick service sends job info over and shuts down service when complete |
| 20:47.06 | pfn | imagemagick is too leaky to use in anything persistent... |
| 20:47.33 | pfn | basically imagemagick currently handles my watermarking, image rotation and scaling |
| 20:47.44 | dvayanu | pfn: i think JAI can do this as well |
| 20:48.23 | pfn | I'll have to take a look at it |
| 20:48.37 | dvayanu | pfn: and http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/ |
| 20:48.57 | jasonb | pfn: It's "public domain", which actually isn't a license, but the source comments say that re-licensing it BSD is okay to do (or even GPL). So, it's BSD compatibly licensed, which is great news. |
| 20:50.44 | pfn | http://paste.hanhuy.com/drewnoakes-license |
| 20:50.49 | pfn | I guess that license is compatible ;-) |
| 20:51.56 | dvayanu | seems so |
| 20:52.28 | dvayanu | i dont know, but do you have to have a LICENSE file in the distribution or the license header in each source file? |
| 20:52.45 | dvayanu | do you have to ensure the user accepts the license before downloading? |
| 20:53.38 | pfn | I have no idea how that works... |
| 20:54.01 | pfn | but the apache license directs one to include the blurb at the top of every file |
| 20:54.29 | dvayanu | but i think they acutally stoped doing it in the code |
| 20:54.44 | dvayanu | at least ted husted wrote something like that at the struts@dev list |
| 21:03.12 | pfn | good, I hate having to pollute the top of every source file |
| 21:04.44 | jasonb | They don't have to have the entire license text at the top of each file (like they did before), but now it says which license it is licensed under, and where to go to see the full text .. they put that at the top of each file now instead. |
| 21:04.51 | pfn | so lgpl isn't compatible with apache? |
| 21:04.58 | pfn | the java-diff library I use is lgpl... |
| 21:05.30 | jasonb | pfn: There is active debate about that. It used to be that the ASF said their license *was* compatible with GPL/LGPL, and that the FSF said it wasn't. Now, I think both say it isn't. :) |
| 21:06.08 | jasonb | pfn: It might still be the case that some ASF members say that one can incorporate Apache licensed code in GPL/LGPL'd works, and that's fine, but not all of them say it's fine. |
| 21:06.30 | pfn | how about vice versa? |
| 21:06.32 | jasonb | pfn: Going the other way (GPL/LGPL'd code being incorporated into Apache licensed code) never worked. |
| 21:06.33 | pfn | incorporate lgpl work |
| 21:06.42 | pfn | hmm, ok |
| 21:06.45 | jasonb | Both sides say that is incompatible (it clearly is) |
| 21:07.01 | pfn | I guess I need to find another java-diff library |
| 21:07.46 | jasonb | ugh. |
| 21:08.09 | jasonb | textual diff? |
| 21:08.19 | jasonb | I'm not aware of a BSD-licensed one. |
| 21:08.48 | jasonb | pfn: See what happens when you just don't worry about the license until later? :) |
| 21:09.55 | pfn | yeah, java-diff is a longest common sequence calculator |
| 21:10.03 | pfn | I use it to do "revision" tracking for blog entries |
| 21:10.10 | pfn | you can compare a version with a previous |
| 21:10.19 | pfn | and have contextual, inline diffs |
| 21:10.51 | pfn | hmm, looks like ognl doesn't have a license... |
| 21:10.54 | Ivan | is there a manual on how to get laid as a sys admin? |
| 21:11.12 | pfn | [pfnguyen@ares ognl]$ !fi |
| 21:11.12 | pfn | find . -type f | xargs grep -i license |
| 21:11.19 | jasonb | pfn: you should use Subversion for versioning blog content! |
| 21:11.27 | pfn | no way... |
| 21:11.34 | jasonb | pfn: Why? |
| 21:11.36 | pfn | not to mention not having a pretty blog api |
| 21:11.42 | pfn | because it's all stored in the database |
| 21:11.51 | pfn | hacking it to keep a second copy in svn or any other repo would be ugly |
| 21:12.02 | dvayanu | pfn, jasonb: jacorb, the fastest and probably best javaorb available is licensed under gpl, geronimo wanted to use it, and had to ask the jacorb guys to change the license, which they refused. sofar for compatibility. |
| 21:12.51 | jasonb | pfn: Hmm.. well, then keep it in the db, and write your own version diff thing. |
| 21:13.05 | pfn | yeah, first thing is to ask if incava will grant a non-lgpl license |
| 21:13.09 | pfn | too lazy to write my own diff |
| 21:13.27 | jasonb | It's good to ask. The answer in 99% of the cases is a very quick "no". |
| 21:13.39 | jasonb | (they don't even consider it) |
| 21:13.45 | pfn | although, java-diff is very small... |
| 21:13.50 | pfn | I suppose I *could* rewrite it |
| 21:13.54 | jasonb | But, sometimes the answer is yes.. so it's good to ask. |
| 21:14.22 | pfn | http://svntrac.hanhuy.com/repo/browser/hanhuy/trunk/cms/local/java-diff/org/incava/util/diff |
| 21:16.31 | pfn | is the opensymphony license compatible? |
| 21:16.42 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.42 | pfn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.45 | pfn | I guess the answer is yes |
| 21:17.06 | dvayanu | must be, since there are project mergers |
| 21:22.07 | pfn | oh well, at least it's only java-diff that isn't compatible, that should be easy enough to re-implement |
| 21:23.11 | jasonb | That's good. |
| 21:23.32 | jasonb | pfn: Hey, do you happen to know how to set the content type using Commons-HTTPClient? |
| 21:23.56 | jasonb | pfn: The Javadocs don't provide much help for that. |
| 21:24.31 | dvayanu | GetMethod x = new GetMethod() |
| 21:24.31 | jasonb | Or, maybe I should just set it as a header.. |
| 21:24.32 | pfn | the request content type? method.setHeader() |
| 21:24.36 | jasonb | POST. |
| 21:24.41 | dvayanu | x.addRequestHeader |
| 21:24.41 | jasonb | yeah.. header. |
| 21:24.45 | jasonb | Thanks. |
| 21:25.19 | pfn | http://svntrac.hanhuy.com/repo/browser/hanhuy/trunk/cms/src/com/hanhuy/ria/client/HttpClient.java |
| 21:25.24 | pfn | that's the extent of my HttpClient knowledge |
| 21:25.25 | pfn | heh |
| 21:25.35 | jasonb | post.setRequestHeader(String, String) |
| 21:26.11 | dvayanu | oh, set |
| 21:26.41 | Ivan | does anybody know what could be causing a "client denied by server configuration: /usr/local.../app/" in an apache err_log configured inside httpd-vshost.conf ??? No tomcats here just apache running |
| 21:27.14 | pfn | you probably have <Directory />order deny,all deny from all .... |
| 21:27.31 | pfn | that question also belongs in #apache :p |
| 21:27.31 | Ivan | in where? |
| 21:27.34 | Ivan | oh come on |
| 21:27.51 | Ivan | I have a "<VirtualHost>" but there are no denys there |
| 21:28.07 | pfn | then grep -i deny *.conf |
| 21:28.12 | pfn | and then figure out which one it is |
| 21:28.46 | Ivan | on all apache's extra confs? |
| 21:29.16 | pfn | how many configurations do you have? |
| 21:29.28 | pfn | I just have a single httpd.conf, ssl.conf and I include .conf files for each of my vhosts |
| 21:29.29 | Ivan | there are a bunch of them in the new apache but I don't think most of them are hooked up |
| 21:30.58 | Ivan | like the virtual host one needs to be loaded as a module before it's even used... but yeah I have Order Allow Deny in every single on of them - like 10+ |
| 21:30.58 | Ivan | cd .. |
| 21:30.58 | Ivan | oops |
| 21:30.58 | Ivan | <Directory /> |
| 21:30.58 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.58 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.58 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.59 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.59 | Ivan | </Directory> |
| 21:30.59 | Ivan | <Directory /> |
| 21:30.59 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.59 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.59 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.28 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.28 | Ivan | </Directory> |
| 21:31.29 | Ivan | <Directory /> |
| 21:31.29 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.29 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.29 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.29 | pfn | don't paste |
| 21:31.29 | Ivan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.41 | pfn | ever |
| 21:32.41 | Ivan | </Directory> |
| 21:32.41 | Ivan | actualy in the httpd.conf |
| 21:32.42 | Ivan | oops posted that one too many times :) |
| 21:32.44 | Ivan | how come? |
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| 21:32.58 | pfn | because you end up pasting too much crap |
| 21:32.58 | Ivan | so what the hell is "Deny from all" doesn't sound very good, but I had apache working just fine without virtual hosts |
| 21:32.58 | pfn | you need to read the documentation |
| 21:32.58 | pfn | read what Deny from all does |
| 21:32.58 | pfn | then investigate how to fix it |
| 21:32.58 | Ivan | i usually set stuff up first then read about how to do it |
| 21:32.58 | pfn | hint: it involves setting up new <Directory> directives |
| 21:33.46 | pfn | well, you've set it up |
| 21:33.46 | pfn | now go read |
| 21:33.46 | Ivan | arggh u make me work for my money |
| 21:33.46 | pfn | well, you aren't paying us anything |
| 21:33.46 | pfn | it'd be a different story if that were the case, I'm sure :p |
| 21:33.46 | Ivan | well you aren't helping me very much :) |
| 21:33.48 | Ivan | what if I did pay u say $10? |
| 21:34.11 | pfn | not quite enough :) |
| 21:34.35 | Ivan | $10.95? |
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| 21:35.06 | Ivan | it's two times the digits of my previous offer, i suggest you take it |
| 21:35.56 | pfn | heh, no thanks |
| 21:36.39 | Ivan | ok, my final offer, $10.00 |
| 21:37.16 | Ivan | u do realize you'd be king in ethopia? |
| 21:38.22 | pfn | I'm not in ethiopia |
| 21:39.30 | Ivan | it was a rhetorical question |
| 21:39.36 | yassine | how about pm ? |
| 21:41.31 | Ivan | ok I read about the directory directive and apache manual doesn't explain anything about the "deny from all, order deny, allow" - what these things mean... |
| 21:42.02 | pfn | read some more, there are instructions on that those directives mean as well |
| 21:44.05 | aluchko | is there a standard way to do password changes when using j_security_check for authentication? |
| 21:44.18 | pfn | no |
| 21:44.29 | pfn | password changes are handled by the backend which your realm abstracts |
| 21:44.46 | aluchko | pfn, ok thanks |
| 21:44.49 | pfn | you write a process to modify the backend |
| 21:45.18 | pfn | e.g. I wouldn't want my one webapp to modify my ldap realm... that would suck, heh |
| 21:47.59 | Ivan | YAYA I FIXED IT YOU GUYS I LOVE YOU I WANT TO MAKE LOVE TO YOUR CHOCOLATE FACTORY! |
| 21:58.07 | dvayanu | i envy my wife... |
| 21:59.49 | Ivan | dude I'm 19 and I'm engaged |
| 22:00.02 | Ivan | I'm getting a custom decal for my DSM with my fiancees name on it |
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| 22:29.35 | vilefridge | jasonb: Hey, are you around? |
| 22:30.49 | jasonb | vilefridge: I'm here. |
| 22:30.53 | jasonb | vilefridge: Did you fix it? :) |
| 22:31.43 | vilefridge | jasonb: no :( |
| 22:32.29 | pfn | so fix0rs it :) |
| 22:32.30 | pfn | ;-) |
| 22:33.05 | jasonb | vilefridge: You know when you edited /opt/tomcat/conf/tomcat-env.sh to set JAVA_HOME? What did you set it to? |
| 22:35.35 | vilefridge | jasonb: note: I cannot read that file/directory unless I am root. JAVA_HOME="/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06" |
| 22:49.04 | Ivan | yay i got tomcat set up with apache thru mod_jk FLAWLESS who the hell was talking smack here |
| 22:57.40 | pfn | I usually have problems with mod_jk when I stop tomcat without stopping apache |
| 22:57.49 | pfn | usually get sockets left in TIME_WAIT that won't go away |
| 22:59.52 | swente | pfn: i might remember things wrong, but TIME_WAIT sockets need some time before timing out [minutes] |
| 23:00.28 | swente | pfn: so perhaps it's "normal"? |
| 23:00.57 | pfn | it's "normal" but it prevents ajp from restarting |
| 23:01.09 | pfn | so you need to restart httpd |
| 23:01.49 | swente | hmmm .. ic. |
| 23:03.03 | jasonb | vilefridge: Do: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/bin/java -version |
| 23:03.12 | jasonb | vilefridge: Paste the output of that into a paste server and give us the URL. |
| 23:10.54 | vilefridge | jasonb: http://pastebin.ca/179126 |
| 23:12.18 | jasonb | That looks good. |
| 23:12.43 | jasonb | Okay, so you were saying you use some funky editor to write your jsp files.. |
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| 23:13.04 | jasonb | Instead of doing that, lets copy one that you know works to another name right next to it and try requesting that one. |
| 23:13.15 | jasonb | Like, in the jsp-examples webapp, for instance. |
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| 23:16.55 | vilefridge | jasonb: aha!! I think you're onto something :) :) hello.jsp works. hello2.jsp (the one we just created) doesn't. it shows code on the page |
| 23:16.57 | Ivan | Hey any idea why my admin app would work, but not the "users" piece? Whenever I try to view users or groups I get a 500 |
| 23:17.47 | jasonb | Ivan: mod_jk works great, doesn't it? :) |
| 23:18.32 | vilefridge | jasonb: http://pastebin.ca/179133 |
| 23:18.33 | Ivan | it actually doesn't work regardless of mod jk |
| 23:18.35 | Ivan | or standalone |
| 23:20.05 | jasonb | vilefridge: Actually, I just looked, and all of the JSPs in that webapp are deployed as pre-compiled servlets, so that's a bad test. |
| 23:20.27 | vilefridge | jasonb: ohh, damn. |
| 23:21.28 | jasonb | vilefridge: Post your entire /opt/tomcat/conf/web.xml to a paste server, please. |
| 23:23.00 | vilefridge | jasonb: http://pastebin.ca/179134 |
| 23:24.09 | Ivan | damn I love it how apache restarts in about a milisecond |
| 23:27.05 | jasonb | vilefridge: That looks fine as well. |
| 23:27.32 | jasonb | vilefridge: Who installed Java on that box, you? If so, how? |
| 23:28.08 | dvayanu | jasonb: by the way, do you know about any performance comparison between tomcat and lighttpd? |
| 23:29.13 | pfn | hrm, why can't I set an XmlRpcHandlerMapping to an instance instead of a class? |
| 23:32.41 | pfn | I guess I can create each XmlRpcHandler myself... yuck |
| 23:33.02 | jasonb | dvayanu: Nope, I've never seen those benchmarked side by side. |
| 23:33.14 | vilefridge | jasonb: I did, through Synaptic package manager |
