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| 01:04.51 | dgibb | hi. I was following the tutorial at http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ectom/, and had trouble running the jsp |
| 01:05.13 | dgibb | it complains that: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/logging/LogFactory |
| 01:05.22 | dgibb | is this some classpath error? |
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| 01:18.40 | azzz | can anyone help with eclipse and tomcat integration? Specifically the Sysdeo Eclipse Pluging and supplying your own context.xml to tomcat for the webapp |
| 01:19.39 | lyken | hmmz, this isnt #eclipse.. |
| 01:20.21 | azzz | yer, I would assume if I have <root>/META-INF/context.xml that tomcat detects that normally as if the war was unpacked already |
| 01:20.44 | azzz | that's what Im here for :) |
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| 01:22.05 | jasonb | azzz: you would assume wrong. |
| 01:25.30 | azzz | dammit! :) thanks... |
| 01:25.51 | azzz | where is the context.xml defined in the war? in the manifest? |
| 01:27.25 | jasonb | It's not defined in the war. |
| 01:27.46 | jasonb | Only if you deploy via the Tomcat manager webapp can you define it in META-INF/context.xml. |
| 01:27.54 | jasonb | Otherwise, all context config goes outside the war. |
| 01:28.49 | azzz | I guess the same is NOT true for the WEB-INF/web.xml ? |
| 01:29.06 | jasonb | That is correct. |
| 01:29.30 | jasonb | WEB-INF/web.xml is always the path to your webapp's "deployment descriptor", regardless of how you deploy it. |
| 01:33.00 | azzz | so I guess my next question is. Who/Where/What do I need to tell to same "Ey Mr Tomcat, my webapp XXX has this XXX/context.xml context" if thats a fair question |
| 01:33.10 | azzz | same=say |
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| 01:34.33 | jasonb | Put the context xml fragment file in the CATALINA_HOME/conf/Catalina/localhost/ directory. |
| 01:40.48 | faded_ | hi people.. I have a swing application, and want to get it into a web-page and hosted on tomcat. is this possible? |
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| 01:42.49 | dgibb | Hi. Using eclipse, I keep on getting NoClassDefFoundErrors when trying a very simple jsp. |
| 01:43.14 | dgibb | I've found stuff on google that suggests it's probably a classpath problem, but I'm at my wit's end |
| 01:43.51 | dgibb | I'm running ubuntu |
| 01:44.42 | lyken | and that has what to do with tomcat ? |
| 01:46.00 | dgibb | I don't know, perhaps there is a known problem with the distribution's setup. Or something |
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| 03:05.00 | aas | hi anyone around |
| 03:05.55 | aas | ive placed a new .jar file in my webapps directory but tomcat doesn't seem to get it |
| 03:06.03 | aas | and the old one keeps running |
| 03:06.04 | aas | any ideas? |
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| 03:24.14 | aa1s | hello anyone around |
| 03:30.23 | aa1s | tomcat using an old .jar file i replaced with a noticeably different one.. and its still using the old one.. its not related to Internet Browser, tried two, cleared cache etc etc |
| 03:30.37 | aa1s | thanks |
| 03:30.52 | aa1s | thats for a webapp |
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| 05:26.38 | faded_ | hi if I want two instances of tomcat.. which ports should I change to avoid conflict apart from the http and ssl ports? |
| 05:27.10 | jasonb | The shutdown port, and any AJP port you may have it listening on. |
| 05:27.42 | jasonb | Basically, do a search for "port" in server.xml and have a look at each one of those that aren't commented out. |
| 05:30.57 | faded_ | ok cool thanks |
| 05:35.49 | faded_ | jasonb: do all default ports change from tomcat 5.0 to 5.5? |
| 05:36.59 | jasonb | No. |
| 05:37.05 | jasonb | None of them did as far as I know. |
| 05:37.24 | jasonb | If yours look different, then it may be that you're not getting your tomcats from tomcat.apache.org. |
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| 06:04.59 | tkoskine | faded_: Here is an example from my system (diff -u between two server.xml files): http://paste.lisp.org/display/18227 |
| 07:06.43 | faded_ | thanks very much |
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| 08:29.33 | kuto | how do you check if tomcat is working aside from the port it is on |
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| 08:45.17 | cypo | kuto: you can display the ports applications are listing on with lsof -i |
| 08:47.10 | kuto | cypo: do you use mod_jk? |
| 08:48.49 | kuto | port 8080 and 8009 is open, but it dosnt seems to work with mod_jk |
| 08:57.36 | kuto | and it seems that i dont even have the tomcat.log |
| 08:58.04 | kuto | any idea how can i create that log? |
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| 09:24.08 | cypo | kuto: no, I don't use mod_jk nor apache |
| 09:25.01 | cypo | maybe jasonb is still awake and can help you |
| 09:25.14 | lyken | i doubt it |
| 09:25.18 | lyken | its like 2am |
| 09:25.46 | cypo | ic |
| 09:25.51 | kuto | i was able now to create the tomcat.log using log4j |
| 09:26.18 | kuto | but i never see any errors in those logs |
| 09:27.02 | cypo | did you enable the debug output? |
| 09:27.28 | kuto | sample command? |
| 09:29.38 | cypo | in the log4j.properties, there might be a line like log4j.rootLogger=INFO, AP1 ... change INFO to DEBUG |
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| 09:32.03 | kuto | here's my default => http://pastebin.com/619615 |
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| 09:33.23 | kuto | and if i have to change my rootlogger? i have to change this also? log4j.logger.org.apache.catalina=WARN, R |
| 09:33.43 | cypo | you get more output if you change WARN to DEBUG but I don't know if that will help you |
| 09:34.50 | cypo | if the ports are open tomcat should be running, though |
| 09:35.30 | cypo | I guess the problem has something to do with mod_jk |
| 09:35.59 | cypo | usually it's best to use tomcat stand-alone |
| 09:39.45 | kuto | i cant use stand-alone because i need to run php and html on the same box |
| 09:40.25 | kuto | i got two box here, 1 box is running using mod_jk |
| 09:40.59 | kuto | now i duplicated the setup of the 1st box to the 2nd box except for the domains |
| 09:41.15 | cypo | I'm not familiar with mod_jk so I can't help you here, sorry |
| 09:41.24 | kuto | its ok |
| 09:41.50 | kuto | the only problem with the 2 box is hardware one running intel and one running amd |
| 09:43.14 | kuto | freakin weird |
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| 09:48.31 | jacekmigacz | hey! |
| 09:48.48 | jacekmigacz | tell me what the hell .do files are? |
| 09:49.06 | jacekmigacz | in jps/servlet application? |
| 09:50.02 | lyken | they do stuff |
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| 09:59.50 | jacekmigacz | but how and when its created? |
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| 10:05.50 | jacekmigacz | a <a href="" points to .do files but i don't have such JSP files... first time i thought its pre compiled jsp file but its not i think.. |
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| 10:10.04 | SWATT | I've downloaded the source, what now? Do I need to build/install it? (I need to link it to my apache2 and got my apache2 connector already) |
| 10:12.03 | kuto | mod_jk? |
| 10:12.05 | SWATT | yes |
| 10:12.34 | SWATT | I just have trouble with Tomcat. I got the complete source and wish to compile/install |
| 10:12.42 | SWATT | somehow I can't get it done |
| 10:12.50 | kuto | hmmm...follow this links, hold on |
| 10:13.02 | kuto | does tomcat and apache working? |
| 10:13.45 | kuto | ? |
| 10:13.46 | SWATT | apache2 works fine |
| 10:13.53 | kuto | and tomcat? |
| 10:14.21 | kuto | oh great |
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| 10:15.02 | kuto | http://www.meritonlinesystems.com/docs/apache_tomcat_redhat.html <= try to follow on this |
| 10:15.05 | SWATT | sorry, I hit my browsers back button :-/ |
| 10:15.43 | kuto | the connector instruction works great |
| 10:15.52 | jacekmigacz | guys, where are .do (jsp application) files come from? |
| 10:16.06 | SWATT | kuto, I'll look. wait a sec |
| 10:16.12 | kuto | no idea, i only works on jsp |
| 10:17.37 | SWATT | is jakata-tomcat a seperate package? |
| 10:17.37 | SWATT | nevermind, think I'm getting therer :) |
| 10:17.38 | jacekmigacz | kuto: thx, but i think its jsp issue anyway |
| 10:24.41 | jacekmigacz | .do files i think after all are from Struts family |
| 10:24.46 | jacekmigacz | am i right? |
| 10:26.51 | kuto | where did you get that .do file? |
| 10:31.50 | jacekmigacz | kuto: im working on halt-ended, huge application, i have to add some modules and im digging inside.. |
| 10:32.19 | jacekmigacz | kuto: Struts liblary seems to work that way.. |
| 10:32.45 | kuto | ok then |
| 10:40.44 | jacekmigacz | yep, do files come from Struts |
| 10:40.44 | jacekmigacz | :) |
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| 11:02.40 | julien_ | hi all |
| 11:02.55 | jacekmigacz | hi |
| 11:03.01 | julien_ | is it possible to have a domain wide session cookie with tomcat ? |
| 11:04.58 | julien_ | I'm just trying to validate that it is not possible (at least easily) |
| 11:05.56 | yassine | julien_, do you want something like authenticate once and access all the application in a domain ? |
| 11:06.26 | julien_ | it's a bit different |
| 11:07.08 | julien_ | i have some kind of proxy server (a marketing stuff) that will forward requests to a tomcat for 10 clicks |
| 11:07.25 | julien_ | after that the browser is redirected to the tomcat itself |
| 11:08.12 | julien_ | the guys of the marketing stuff ask if it is possible to use domain cookies |
| 11:09.47 | julien_ | I already google'd a bit but don't find anything saying that it is possible |
| 11:10.04 | yassine | define what you mean with domain cookies ? a coockier which contains the domain name ? |
| 11:10.34 | julien_ | a cookie that spans a domain and its subdomains |
| 11:10.56 | julien_ | .brol.be -> www.brol.be, mail.brol.be, search.brol.be etc .... |
| 11:12.21 | yassine | ahh you want users to carry a cookies tell you where they comes from ? |
| 11:12.49 | yassine | or store data in that cookie from one domain to an other |
| 11:13.18 | julien_ | not really ... that should be the session cookie of tomcat ... |
| 11:13.27 | julien_ | I know, it's weird |
| 11:14.08 | julien_ | anyway, I don't think it's possible |
| 11:14.43 | julien_ | I was just asking |
| 11:14.45 | yassine | am sorry i dont see/understand exactly what you want to do |
| 11:15.13 | yassine | tu parle francais ? |
| 11:15.18 | julien_ | oui :-) |
| 11:15.42 | jacekmigacz | :) |
| 11:16.03 | kuto | do you guys use mod_jk? |
| 11:16.56 | kuto | yassine: can you help me out, it seems my connector is not working out |
| 11:17.17 | kuto | though i dont any error messages in my logs |
| 11:17.25 | kuto | i dont see |
| 11:17.26 | julien_ | yassine, i need to register to talk privately |
| 11:17.41 | yassine | i know |
| 11:18.01 | yassine | julien_, #tomcat.fr |
| 11:18.26 | yassine | kuto, can you pastebin your config files somewhere ? |
| 11:19.59 | yassine | kuto, mod_jk.conf workers.propertiers |
| 11:31.33 | yassine | kuto, can you see the part i added ? |
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| 12:20.35 | kelvin^8^ | i cant login to tomcat manager, it return 403 access to the requested resource has been denied |
| 12:28.54 | yassine | kelvin^8^, did you created a role manager ? |
| 12:49.28 | kelvin^8^ | you mean the file at the conf? |
| 12:49.47 | kelvin^8^ | tomcat-users.xml |
| 12:49.49 | kelvin^8^ | ? |
| 12:51.07 | kelvin^8^ | <role rolename="manager"/> |
| 12:52.01 | yassine | did you assign it to the user you are trying to log in with? |
| 12:53.12 | kelvin^8^ | <user username="manager" password="manager" roles="manager"...... |
| 12:53.17 | kelvin^8^ | did i need to restart?: |
| 12:54.19 | kelvin^8^ | oooo i did it! i need to restart the server |
| 12:59.14 | yassine | okay give it a try |
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| 13:11.42 | kelvin^8^ | i deployed an application that automatically create db when first time it run, but it return cannot create db connection pool: ......invalid authorization specification...root @ lelvin (using passsword yes, did this something to do with tomcat or application itself |
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| 13:14.25 | yassine | kelvin^8^, not really |
| 13:14.41 | yassine | do you have shell access to the db machine ? |
| 13:15.50 | kelvin^8^ | ooo i think is the mysql password ? |
| 13:15.56 | yassine | try access the db with the apropriate user( the one your application is using) and see if you can access it |
| 13:16.04 | kelvin^8^ | ok\ |
| 13:16.05 | kelvin^8^ | thank |
| 13:16.09 | yassine | np |
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| 13:43.09 | yassine | kuto, |
| 13:43.12 | yassine | here iam |
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| 14:33.26 | Hellaenergy | Can someone tell me what tag handler pooling is all about? |
| 14:33.57 | Hellaenergy | its inabled by default in tomcat |
| 14:34.01 | Hellaenergy | http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/jasper-howto.html |
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| 14:51.27 | {aaron} | hi guys, the tomcat docs claim that by default some output goes to console and some 'stdout' log but I do not see that log anywhere or defined in logging.properties |
| 14:51.35 | larryBoy | Hellaenergy, tag pooling is like connection pooling |
| 14:51.45 | Hellaenergy | I got that much |
| 14:51.57 | Hellaenergy | What tags need to be pooled? |
| 14:52.05 | Hellaenergy | tags as in tag libs? |
| 14:52.19 | larryBoy | yeah, i believe so |
| 14:52.32 | Hellaenergy | What do tag libs need to be pooled? |
| 14:52.53 | larryBoy | why?, you mean |
| 14:53.07 | larryBoy | it is a performance thing |
| 14:53.20 | Hellaenergy | I just wonder how it came about |
| 14:53.44 | larryBoy | iirc, resin did it first and it was an enormous performance booster |
| 14:53.46 | Hellaenergy | Is there a serious improvment in performace with it enabled I wonder |
| 14:53.50 | larryBoy | oh yeah |
| 14:53.53 | Hellaenergy | hm |
| 14:54.06 | larryBoy | not so sure about newer vms |
| 14:54.13 | larryBoy | object creation has improved |
| 14:54.23 | larryBoy | but i still thing there probably is |
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| 15:03.31 | Hellaenergy | Thanks larryBoy |
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| 18:31.51 | randrew | ohhh dare I ask... |
| 18:32.48 | randrew | anyone know of a way to autodeploy to a specific path with 5.5 |
| 18:34.10 | randrew | for example I want to put the files for a webapp at webapps/foo but want its effective uri to be http://localhost:8080/bing/bang/foo/ |
| 18:34.56 | jasonb | Put all the configs for the webapp in server.xml. |
| 18:36.42 | jasonb | Yeah, from within server.xml, a <Context> can indeed specify a path="/put/yer/uri/path/here" |
| 18:36.47 | randrew | I'll give that a try. ( It would be nice if I didn't have to hard-code each app name in server.xml, but we can cope with that..) |
| 18:36.59 | jasonb | There is nothing wrong with putting it in server.xml. |
| 18:37.10 | jasonb | To the contrary, there are plenty of things wrong with _not_ putting it in server.xml. |
| 18:37.37 | jasonb | If you need it to be in a separate file, you can use an xml entity include in server.xml. |
| 18:38.11 | randrew | That's an interesting idea. |
| 18:38.19 | jasonb | It works fine. |
| 18:39.37 | randrew | (The backstory is that we used the xml fragments in appBase with 4.1, and that met our needs well.) |
| 18:41.42 | jasonb | Well, there's another way to do it with tc 5.5, but you may not like it. |
| 18:42.27 | randrew | The files under config/ thing? we got it working, but it's a bit annoying. would rather just edit server.xml. |
| 18:43.08 | jasonb | That is: name the context.xml file something like bing#bang#foo.xml |
| 18:43.25 | jasonb | It's lame, though. |
| 18:43.34 | randrew | yeah, it works. just too weird. |
| 18:44.10 | jasonb | Yup. |
| 18:44.17 | jasonb | I think almost nobody likes that feature. |
| 18:44.25 | jasonb | Probably will go away. |
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| 18:51.13 | Sillychuckie | hi there. I need some help please giving a servlet permission to write to a local file. I can read from it, but have been unable to write to it. |
| 18:51.43 | Sillychuckie | Due to the fact it works when invoked locally (not via a servlet), I am assuming it is because Tomcats security manager is preventing it. |
| 18:54.08 | Sillychuckie | I am using javax.xml.transform.Transformer.transform(Source, Result) to attempt the write to a local java.IO.File, where the source is an XML document. |
| 18:54.40 | jasonb | Sillychuckie: Are you indeed running Tomcat with the security manager turned on (this is not the default)? |
| 18:55.06 | Sillychuckie | The file is placed in the dir: $catalina_home\webapps\jspwork\WEB-INF\classes |
| 18:55.17 | Sillychuckie | no jasonb.. if it is not default, then it is not on |
| 18:55.18 | jasonb | That sounds like a "no". |
| 18:55.21 | jasonb | ok.. |
| 18:55.37 | Sillychuckie | are you suggesting that tomcat does not prevent writes of this type by default? |
| 18:55.37 | jasonb | So then you're running into a regular file permissions problem. |
| 18:55.41 | jasonb | Tomcat has nothing to do with it. |
| 18:55.42 | Sillychuckie | oh, i see. |
| 18:56.20 | Sillychuckie | well, as I mentioned above, the write is successful if I try it locally, using a "main" method etc. |
| 18:56.41 | Sillychuckie | can you think of a reason why it might work when invoked that way, but not when it is invoked from within a servlets code? |
| 18:56.51 | jasonb | Nope. |
| 18:57.10 | jasonb | users/permissions problem. |
| 18:57.58 | Sillychuckie | hm. well, i do nothing special to restrict permissions to the file, and I assume the servlet has the same write permissions I do. |
| 18:58.15 | Sillychuckie | any other suggestions, thoughts, or other places I might go to ask for help? |
| 18:58.38 | Sillychuckie | i have been struggling with it for a day or so now.. coming here was my last resort. :/ |
| 18:59.10 | jasonb | Well, I think you've made a bad assumption somewhere, so you might re-think your above assumption statements. |
| 18:59.42 | Sillychuckie | quite. I know that now... |
| 18:59.48 | jasonb | From within the code you can probably print what user it's running as, and you may even be able (from Java) to tell whether a file is writeable or not. |
| 19:00.12 | Sillychuckie | okay. i'll investigate deeper then into the permissions side of things. |
| 19:00.15 | Sillychuckie | thanks anyway. |
| 19:00.16 | jasonb | If you print the user in both cases, and it comes out the same, then you know for sure that the user isn't different in both cases. |
| 19:00.24 | jasonb | If it comes out different, then you have made a bad assumption. |
| 19:00.36 | Sillychuckie | i'll idle here for a little while in case anyone else has anything to add. |
| 19:03.38 | swente | hmm .. i'm adding headers [response.[add|set]Header], but they don't appear in the response.. |
| 19:03.54 | randrew | Sillychuckie: is the owner of the tomcat process the same as the owner of the 'try it locally' process? |
| 19:05.57 | jasonb | swente: Could it be that the response has already been partially sent to the client before you set your headers? |
| 19:06.35 | swente | jasonb: mmh no, it doesn't seem so |
| 19:06.56 | Stork | can anyone recommend me an init.d script to use for automatically starting tomcat? |
| 19:07.31 | jasonb | Stork: Which OS brand & version? |
| 19:07.38 | Stork | ubuntu 5.10 & debian sarge |
| 19:07.51 | jasonb | Nope. I can't recommend anything for that. |
| 19:08.02 | swente | Stork: are you using jsvc? |
| 19:08.11 | Stork | what's jsvc? |
| 19:08.34 | jasonb | It's a native code wrapper for Tomcat that breaks easily. :) |
| 19:09.05 | swente | Stork: allows dropping privileges after starting, to launch tomcat as root [to get it work on port 80], but run as an ordinary user |
| 19:10.20 | Stork | breaks easily? doesn't sound like something i like |
| 19:10.28 | swente | mmh there's my headers, sorry - my stupid fault |
| 19:10.33 | swente | Stork: didn't break here so far. |
| 19:10.48 | Stork | i'll try this one:http://www.switch.ch/aai/docs/shibboleth/SWITCH/1.3/idp/tomcat |
| 19:10.55 | Stork | but first, dinner. bye all |
| 19:11.59 | Sillychuckie | the 'username' next to the Tomcat service is 'SYSTEM'. When I run it locally, I imagine it will run under my username as opposed to SYSTEM, so no.. they are not jasonb. |
| 19:12.54 | Sillychuckie | but again, I thought TOMCAT may have the ability to add that 'SYSTEM' has the same privilage as 'hwarsa' (my username), as opposed to any changes being requied of the java code. |
| 19:13.52 | jasonb | Sillychuckie: Tomcat has no ability to switch OS users, nor change what OS priviliges it was started with. |
| 19:14.02 | Sillychuckie | I will attempt to start it myself manually. |
| 19:14.22 | Sillychuckie | see if I can not get my name next to that service, rather than rely on the OS startup doing it. I'll see if this makes any difference. |
| 19:14.51 | swente | Sillychuckie: did you try to loosen access-privileges for the file you're trying to write? |
| 19:16.46 | Sillychuckie | no, I have not. it has whatever the stadard access-privileges do of ones that you might create by selecting "file, new, text document". |
| 19:17.06 | Sillychuckie | i'll look into that option also. it is located on an NTFS drive so I believe I can tweak it quite abit... |
| 19:17.29 | Sillychuckie | but I also think that my default setup isn't one that would prevent it being accessed. Ill try both of these things and report back. thanks |
| 19:37.32 | randrew | Sillychuckie: there are certain security advantages if the process owner does not have permisssion to write files. i'm just sayin'.... |
| 19:39.30 | Sillychuckie | yeh.. i dont think it is that now anyway |
| 19:39.41 | Sillychuckie | and i found on the tomcat config thing that you can start the service as anyone you wish |
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| 19:40.21 | Sillychuckie | i rewrote afew bits to throw the exception back out to the servlet page rather than catching them all and just logging.. and i think its due to a problem with java versions |
| 19:40.29 | Sillychuckie | cos im getting: javax.xml.transform.TransformerFactoryConfigurationError: Provider org.apache.xalan.processor.TransformerFactoryImpl not found |
| 19:40.42 | Sillychuckie | just googling the error now |
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| 19:45.12 | Sillychuckie | :)) |
| 19:45.14 | Sillychuckie | all solved. |
| 19:45.51 | Sillychuckie | The class is located in the rt.jar file. The package name of the class was changed (according to this source: http://java.sun.com/webservices/whatsnew.html) |
| 19:46.07 | gimppop | hiya! I'm trying to get tomcat working on a Sun UltraSparc running debian/sarge.. There's no Sun JDK for that platform, so I'm trying to use sableVM, but I'm only half way there, so far.. |
| 19:46.15 | Sillychuckie | with JDK 5.0 final you have to set the property... |
| 19:46.21 | Sillychuckie | thanks |
| 19:47.34 | gimppop | I've got tomcat running on :8180, but when I try to connect to the admin interface, I get this error: |
| 19:47.49 | gimppop | (this is tomcat v.4) |
| 19:48.02 | gimppop | org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Unable to compile class for JSP |
| 19:48.11 | gimppop | ...yadder yadder.. |
| 19:48.19 | gimppop | root cause: java.io.FileNotFoundException: Permission denied |
| 19:48.34 | gimppop | any ideas any one, please? |
| 19:50.20 | randrew | gimppop: one thing to check is write permission on the work directory. |
| 19:53.33 | gimppop | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.26 | Stork | what is /usr/bin/tomcat supposed to link to? startup.sh ? |
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| 20:15.47 | randrew | Stork your init.d does some odd stuff with symlinks, seems like it's tailored to a specific type of tomcat install... |
| 20:16.06 | Stork | ah. |
| 20:18.54 | jasonb | gimppop: You might be better off using gij or kaffe to run Tomcat on that OS/Arch combo. |
| 20:19.10 | jasonb | gimppop: But, any of these selections will only partially work. |
| 20:28.57 | gimppop | hiya jasonb ! thanks for the advice! i tried kaffe but got nowhere.. it won't seem to run tomcat on sparclinux or mips or alpha.. |
| 20:29.38 | gimppop | on what randrew said...what permissions should i set ~/work to be? |
| 20:30.36 | gimppop | ~/work is a soft symlink to /var/cache/tomcat4/ |
| 20:30.37 | ibot | gimppop: okay |
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| 20:46.35 | jasonb | gimppop: What broke when you tried to run Tomcat on kaffe? |
| 20:47.13 | jasonb | gimppop: Also, that soft symlink thing only applies to a very small subset of Tomcat installations.. most of them aren't like that.. so telling ibot about it will offer wrong info to most Tomcat users. |
| 20:51.17 | gimppop | hi jasonb! thanks for that.. i can't work it out.. would you be able to interpret the exception error messages? |
| 20:51.36 | jasonb | gimppop: Maybe. |
| 20:51.45 | gimppop | i forget what kaffe broke on, but it seemed properly b0rked, and when i googled, bettter minds than mine reckoned it was a non-runner |
| 20:51.52 | jasonb | gimppop: If you got an exception message, chances are you're done. :( |
| 20:53.05 | gimppop | aww. how disappointing! |
| 20:54.18 | gimppop | i guess there's the blackdown JVM.. but i don't hold out much hope.. development seems to have stopped on it early last year (2005) |
| 20:54.35 | gimppop | for sparc, i mean.. |
| 20:55.42 | gimppop | Oh, God.. I think I give up.. when i try to browse to the tomcat admin interface, i get so many weird messages i feel queasy.. |
| 20:55.54 | gimppop | e.g. |
| 20:55.56 | gimppop | java.lang.NumberFormatException |
| 20:55.56 | gimppop | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.56 | gimppop | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.45 | gimppop | people are reporting success with sablevm and tomcat, but that's on x86.. i guess this is taking things that one bit further trying to replicate their success on sparc |
| 20:58.45 | jasonb | Hmm, well, these OSS JVMs are supposed to be written in a pretty portable way.. they're just not complete yet. |
| 20:59.05 | jasonb | Is there a blackdown JVM for sparc linux? That would be interesting. |
| 20:59.06 | lyken | and prolly wont be |
| 20:59.12 | jasonb | Yeah.. true. |
| 20:59.47 | jasonb | I say it'll be another 5-10 years for them to be complete, but within that time a real JVM will probably be OSS'd.. making all the effort a waste of time, really. |
| 20:59.47 | gimppop | yeah, there is blackdown.. 1.4.0, iirc. not sure if the same Sun version numbering is used tho' by blackdown |
| 21:00.12 | jasonb | I think the blackdown version numbering is actually supposed to reflect the version of Java like Sun's JVM numbering. |
| 21:00.32 | jasonb | If there's a blackdown sparc linux JVM like that, you're probably *much* better off using that, if it works. |
| 21:00.36 | gimppop | tis a shame cos it's very close |
| 21:00.44 | gimppop | or at least i feel it's close! |
| 21:00.53 | jasonb | Another idea: you could use qemu to run linux i386 binaries on top of sparc linux. |
| 21:01.36 | gimppop | oh blimey! i'm not as brave as you! |
| 21:01.38 | lyken | or throw the sparc out the window |
| 21:01.40 | jasonb | I don't know if any of the real JVMs could run that way. |
| 21:01.43 | jasonb | But, probably. |
| 21:02.19 | gimppop | dunno what to do with this sparc.. it's like that old volvo that clutters up the driveway but just won't blow up.. you can't throw it away! |
| 21:02.26 | jasonb | gimppop: Seriously, investigate gij.. that might be the most advanced OSS JVM today. |
| 21:03.22 | gimppop | the sparc has run apache and exim happily since april 2004, so i've sort of warmed to it, (and it has literally warmed me too!) |
| 21:03.27 | jasonb | FC5 comes with it built in.. :/ |
| 21:03.49 | gimppop | okay dokey.. thanks jasonb .. i'll take a look at gij! |
| 21:04.02 | crappyuser | u the man jasonb |
| 21:04.04 | gimppop | blimey.. i'm building a museum collection of JVMs here! |
| 21:04.05 | jasonb | Well, use apache if you want. Whatever works for yer wacky machine. :) |
| 21:04.19 | jasonb | crappyuser: I am? |
| 21:04.57 | crappyuser | jasonb: yeah |
| 21:04.59 | jasonb | gimppop: Just throw away what you know doesn't work. |
| 21:05.50 | gimppop | apt-get install gij, here we go! |
| 21:06.09 | jasonb | gimppop: And, you probably should look into qemu. It allows one to do the impossible on otherwise incompatible OS/Arch combos. |
| 21:07.03 | gimppop | thanks jasonb.. whew.. there's a redundant K6-2 gathering dust that would make this task a whole lot simpler! |
| 21:07.33 | lyken | hehe |
| 21:07.37 | lyken | jasonb: have you tried MOL yet ? |
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| 21:08.01 | jasonb | lyken: Yes.. I can also run osx ppc via mol from the same ppc linux host OS. |
| 21:08.18 | lyken | yer its best of most worlds |
| 21:08.18 | lyken | hehe |
| 21:08.42 | s000 | Anyone know if jsvc can launch different java processes in the same JVM? |
| 21:08.43 | jasonb | lyken: The thing that mol has going for it is that it virutalizes the PPC processor, so both the host and guest OSs run fast.. kinda like what qemu does when the host OS is on an x86 or x86_64. |
| 21:08.55 | jasonb | lyken: Exactly. |
| 21:09.12 | jasonb | s000: One JVM = one process. |
| 21:10.19 | s000 | no way for them to share one? |
| 21:11.26 | gimppop | thanks guys for your attention and expertise..sadly my girl is calling round (she's got her dose of gameshows and soapoperas so she's come to plague me).. better clear up the beer cans before she arrives |
| 21:13.09 | gimppop | i'll check out gij, thanks jasonb .. i don't see a compiler with it tho'.. i guess it must be there somewhere |
| 21:14.33 | gimppop | gnite guys! |
| 21:14.35 | gimppop | bye! |
| 21:18.36 | Stork | this is weird |
| 21:19.16 | Stork | i put a jar file in $TOMCAT_HOME/shared/lib/file.jar but it isn't included in my app in /webapps/ROOT/index.jsp |
| 21:27.23 | Stork | anyone? |
| 21:27.42 | larryBoy | don't put it there |
| 21:27.49 | larryBoy | bad idea |
| 21:28.00 | Storkme | why? |
| 21:28.44 | larryBoy | because all it does is introduce classloader issues and save you $0.0003 in disk space |
| 21:29.14 | Stork | so i need to copy the lib everywhere? |
| 21:29.50 | larryBoy | everywhere? howmany contexts will be using it? |
| 21:30.15 | Stork | i don't exactly know.. |
| 21:30.30 | Stork | for a start, what exactly is the ROOT directory? |
| 21:32.35 | Stork | :\ ? |
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| 22:48.03 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 22:48.29 | jasonb | hi yassine. |
| 22:49.11 | yassine | hi jasonb how is everything ? |
| 22:49.26 | jasonb | Busy, but doing great. |
| 22:49.35 | jasonb | How about you? |
| 22:50.10 | yassine | im doing great too i got a bonus for my work today from my boss :) |
| 22:50.35 | jasonb | Wow. I've gotten very few bonuses.. |
| 22:51.09 | yassine | its my first one :) |
| 22:51.21 | yassine | so you can imagin how i do feel :) |
| 22:56.50 | jasonb | yassine: Well, congrats on that! |
| 22:57.20 | yassine | thanks jasonb :) |
| 22:59.51 | lyken | hax the planet |
| 23:04.48 | Stork | odd. |
| 23:05.04 | Stork | what exactly is the ROOT directory for? |
| 23:06.15 | jasonb | It's the name of the root webapp, the one that you get when you go to http://servername:serverport/ |
| 23:06.22 | jasonb | At least, that's what it's meant for. |
| 23:06.36 | jasonb | By default it's configured that way. |
| 23:06.50 | Stork | right, why don't they just use /webapps/ ? |
| 23:07.44 | jasonb | Because that's the appbase directory. It's the dir that all the webapp dirs reside in. |
| 23:08.00 | jasonb | With servlet containers, everything is a webapp. |
| 23:08.05 | Stork | :\ |
| 23:08.14 | jasonb | There's no single unified root like Apache httpd. |
| 23:08.16 | Stork | i'm not sure i understand |
| 23:09.08 | jasonb | The URI space of servlet containers is mapped relative to a web application. Each servlet container can deploy one or more web applications. |
| 23:09.36 | jasonb | You can map exactly one webapp to the root of a server:port's URI. |
| 23:09.46 | jasonb | Inside the webapp, you can put whatever resources you want. |
| 23:09.56 | Stork | right |
| 23:10.05 | jasonb | That means, the webapp's dir is the document root dir for the uri "/". |
| 23:10.20 | jasonb | then, you may map other webapps to other paths, like "/otherwebapp" |
| 23:10.40 | jasonb | So the URI space relative to "/otherwebapp/" is mapped to a whole different dir.. the "otherwebapp" dir. |
| 23:11.04 | jasonb | So, it's potentially compartmentalized into more than one webapp dir. |
| 23:11.29 | jasonb | You can choose to have one big webapp called ROOT if you want, and then the dir where you put that webapp's content becomes the unified document root dir. |
| 23:12.09 | jasonb | You can even go out of your way and configure that webapp's dir to be the webapps/ dir if you want, but that would be quite nonstandard, and would change the meaning of the webapps/ dir. |
| 23:12.36 | jasonb | The default meaning of the webapps/ dir is: the dir in which all webapp dirs reside. |
| 23:13.07 | jasonb | And besides, "webapps" is plural, so it doesn't match up very well with the big, single webapp case. |
| 23:13.41 | jasonb | And, that's all I'm typing because I don't even know if you're listening anymore. :) |
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| 23:15.52 | purdticker | Does anyone know how to redirect all URL requests to one location? For example http://myserver.com/something auto redirects to http://myserver.com. |
| 23:17.33 | lyken | ll |
| 23:17.34 | lyken | lol |
| 23:33.24 | purdticker | or at least a good tutorial on how to do this? |
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| 23:38.18 | jasonb | purdticker: In your ROOT webapp, edit web.xml and map "/something" to a servlet or JSP that sends the redirect to "/". |
| 23:40.01 | jasonb | oh, you want all URIs to map to the root URI.. so map "/*" to the servlet, and then in the servlet, redirect every URI *except* "/" to "/". |
| 23:40.14 | jasonb | Almost nobody wants to do that, so don't expect lots of howtos. :) |
| 23:44.20 | vinse_ | The Moscow Times is reporting that the chief software architect at Russian software developer Cognitive Technologies, Andrei Smirnov, recently won a boxing match organized between himself and a software pirate he caught selling bootlegged software CD's at a Moscow market |
| 23:45.25 | jasonb | Now THAT is thinking outside the box. |
| 23:55.34 | purdticker | how do I map that? what is syntax? sorry I'm a newb :) |