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| 07:30.40 | atomi_ | ls -lag |
| 07:30.48 | atomi_ | :/ |
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| 08:47.30 | [atomi] | testing 1...2...3 |
| 08:47.40 | [atomi] | hi buddies |
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| 08:50.33 | RuadRauFlessa | lol |
| 08:51.01 | [atomi] | hey RuadRauFlessa can you read this? |
| 08:51.11 | RuadRauFlessa | yes |
| 08:51.12 | RuadRauFlessa | y? |
| 08:51.20 | [atomi] | ah ok, just testing |
| 08:51.28 | RuadRauFlessa | testing what? |
| 08:51.43 | [atomi] | testing my chat client |
| 08:51.50 | RuadRauFlessa | what you using? |
| 08:51.58 | [atomi] | chatzilla :) |
| 08:52.04 | RuadRauFlessa | k |
| 08:52.17 | RuadRauFlessa | enjoy |
| 08:52.24 | [atomi] | btw do you know how to install tomcat 5 using sun's jdk 1.5 on FC4 |
| 08:52.37 | [atomi] | it works fine with gcj |
| 08:52.48 | [atomi] | but i need sun |
| 08:52.59 | [atomi] | for a servlet |
| 08:53.15 | RuadRauFlessa | FC4 ??? |
| 08:53.22 | [atomi] | fedora core 4 |
| 08:53.23 | lyken | [atomi]: it doesnt work fine with gcj |
| 08:53.30 | RuadRauFlessa | ooh |
| 08:53.30 | lyken | gcj is an incomplete heap of crap |
| 08:53.31 | RuadRauFlessa | ok |
| 08:53.46 | RuadRauFlessa | you need to go and dl the binaries on java.sun.com for your distro |
| 08:53.47 | lyken | [atomi]: just install the sun jdk |
| 08:53.49 | [atomi] | hmm it ran the servlet-examples lyken |
| 08:53.53 | lyken | set your JAVA_HOME to the sun jdk |
| 08:53.59 | lyken | and start up tomcat again |
| 08:54.14 | lyken | [atomi]: cause the servlets examples do maths and basic stuff |
| 08:54.16 | RuadRauFlessa | if they don't have a bin for your distro get the src |
| 08:54.22 | lyken | sif |
| 08:54.25 | [atomi] | hmmm thats an excelletnt idea |
| 08:54.28 | lyken | ive never compiled tomcat |
| 08:54.32 | lyken | ever |
| 08:54.42 | RuadRauFlessa | not talking about tc |
| 08:54.44 | RuadRauFlessa | jdk |
| 08:54.44 | lyken | and ive been teaching it for hmmz 4 years |
| 08:54.47 | [atomi] | yeah i dont want to have to do that |
| 08:54.59 | RuadRauFlessa | btw you don't compile tc |
| 08:55.06 | lyken | you can :) |
| 08:55.09 | lyken | just waste of time |
| 08:55.11 | RuadRauFlessa | it is a couple of java classes and scripts |
| 08:55.14 | [atomi] | but doing an rpm install after removing gcj and installing sun's jdk i think could work |
| 08:55.17 | lyken | well you configure |
| 08:55.28 | RuadRauFlessa | lol |
| 08:55.32 | lyken | [atomi]: yer just isntall suns jdk, set the java_home and restart |
| 08:55.38 | lyken | cake |
| 08:55.42 | lyken | hmm cake.. |
| 08:55.54 | Ruad | \o/ got my nick back |
| 08:56.17 | [atomi] | lyken: thats another problem though cause FC4 doesnt consider jdk 1.5_06 as stable so i'd have to run the shell script |
| 08:56.34 | lyken | and? |
| 08:56.43 | lyken | i dont use rpms for tomcat/jdk on fc4 anyways |
| 08:56.49 | lyken | well supplied rpms that is |
| 08:56.51 | [atomi] | which inturn would require linking and setting /etc/profile paths :( |
| 08:56.59 | lyken | so? |
| 08:57.05 | [atomi] | ok. |
| 08:57.11 | lyken | get your hands dirty, take 10 mins.. maybe |
| 08:57.20 | [atomi] | just thought maybe you knew a less involved method |
| 08:57.31 | lyken | heh |
| 08:57.44 | lyken | i make everyone install jdk and set up everything manually |
| 08:57.47 | lyken | so when stuff breaks |
| 08:57.49 | lyken | they know how to fix it |
| 08:57.54 | Ruad | lol less involved with linux you must be joking |
| 08:58.19 | lyken | Ruad: some people think package management systems are the best thing ever |
| 08:58.19 | Ruad | only way to do it is to jump in and get dirty |
| 08:58.23 | lyken | till it breaks and they come whinging in the channels for help :) |
| 08:58.27 | [atomi] | hehe |
| 08:58.31 | Ruad | some package managers are gr8 |
| 08:58.31 | lyken | cause they havent learned anything |
| 08:58.36 | lyken | *cough* apt-get *cough* |
| 08:58.49 | Ruad | lol |
| 08:58.50 | lyken | i know people that have 'been using linux for 10 years' |
| 08:58.54 | lyken | and still cant fix a make error |
| 08:58.59 | Ruad | lol |
| 08:59.01 | Ruad | that bad |
| 08:59.02 | [atomi] | generally speaking they are gr8 |
| 08:59.19 | [atomi] | not in my case however :/ |
| 08:59.21 | Ruad | make && make install |
| 08:59.31 | lyken | Ruad: yer |
| 08:59.34 | Ruad | best thing since sliced bread |
| 09:00.08 | lyken | Ruad: i used to have a one like wget && galour that would download, compile and install apache |
| 09:00.11 | lyken | hehe |
| 09:00.19 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:00.57 | Ruad | well you can go even further and make some output pipes and routh everything to log files |
| 09:01.36 | lyken | well i decided when i started learning linux id learn source of everything |
| 09:01.38 | lyken | im very glad i did that |
| 09:01.51 | lyken | stuff doesnt compile, i cut it up till it does |
| 09:02.02 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:02.09 | [atomi] | wow you're a big stud lyken |
| 09:02.12 | Ruad | disecting |
| 09:02.16 | [atomi] | :) |
| 09:02.35 | Ruad | open source code can sometimes be hectic |
| 09:03.12 | lyken | Ruad: and thats the reason im getting out of computers :) |
| 09:03.24 | Ruad | 0.0 |
| 09:03.39 | lyken | cause most people in front of the keyboards have no social skills, which leads to unmaintainable code and useless comments |
| 09:03.54 | Ruad | true |
| 09:04.39 | Ruad | I learned to comment what you want to do in the code and then code inbetween |
| 09:04.41 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:04.42 | lyken | and the computer sysadmin 'career' |
| 09:04.53 | lyken | is the secretary of the 21st century |
| 09:05.01 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:05.05 | Ruad | wahahahaha |
| 09:05.07 | lyken | under appreciated |
| 09:05.13 | Ruad | true |
| 09:05.16 | lyken | and just expected to work |
| 09:05.36 | lyken | support is becoming expected ubiquitous |
| 09:05.40 | [atomi] | stupid. i remove java and it wants to remove tomcat5 |
| 09:05.46 | lyken | [atomi]: yup |
| 09:05.49 | lyken | cause you package installed |
| 09:05.51 | lyken | heh |
| 09:05.55 | lyken | never package install :) |
| 09:05.56 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:06.03 | lyken | if jason is around |
| 09:06.07 | lyken | which i know he wont be |
| 09:06.10 | [atomi] | i was hoping i could "cheat" and just remove gcj |
| 09:06.13 | [atomi] | :( |
| 09:06.19 | Ruad | and another one down another one down another one bits the dust |
| 09:06.23 | lyken | he could cough up some stand alone rpm generators |
| 09:06.39 | Ruad | I got one of hist stand alone RPM's |
| 09:06.48 | lyken | Ruad: business and staff in general expect computers and the running of them to be transparent |
| 09:06.51 | Ruad | they work like da bomb |
| 09:07.19 | [atomi] | ah well... im reinstalling this test server then - do it all from scratch...bah |
| 09:07.28 | lyken | heh [atomi] |
| 09:07.40 | Ruad | lyken, I know that and I don't like it that is why I am starting my own bizz and I will verry soon not have to do any coding and such I will be managing the human resources |
| 09:07.54 | lyken | Ruad: yer |
| 09:08.04 | Ruad | [atomi], no need mate |
| 09:08.07 | lyken | im moving away from it for my career completely :) |
| 09:08.12 | Ruad | k |
| 09:08.13 | [atomi] | Ruad: i own my own corporation :) |
| 09:08.20 | [atomi] | S-corp |
| 09:08.22 | Ruad | cool |
| 09:08.25 | [atomi] | pretty sweeet dude |
| 09:08.32 | lyken | and you can't install jdk? :) |
| 09:09.01 | [atomi] | yeah well, incorporating is easy |
| 09:09.01 | Ruad | lyken, in all your years in IT have you ever noticed that the people at the top knows the least |
| 09:09.02 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:09.17 | lyken | Ruad: not always, but majority yes |
| 09:09.34 | Ruad | lyken, Majority rules |
| 09:09.47 | lyken | indeed |
| 09:09.56 | lyken | ive also been screwed out of a lot of money due to idiots |
| 09:09.59 | [atomi] | Ruad: what kinda biz are you thinking about starting |
| 09:10.00 | lyken | another reason im leaving ! |
| 09:10.24 | Ruad | Web dev |
| 09:10.28 | Ruad | already started |
| 09:10.40 | Ruad | around here there are alot of work in terms of web dev |
| 09:10.41 | [atomi] | well i can give you some advice if you want it- real simple |
| 09:10.48 | Ruad | k |
| 09:11.03 | [atomi] | the advice is dont sell your labor |
| 09:11.10 | Ruad | ??? |
| 09:11.12 | [atomi] | hehe |
| 09:11.15 | Ruad | come again |
| 09:11.22 | [atomi] | yeah it might take some time to get that |
| 09:11.23 | lyken | dont work for your money |
| 09:11.28 | Ruad | which means don't charge wor hours of work done |
| 09:11.30 | lyken | typical business model :) |
| 09:11.39 | Ruad | k |
| 09:11.42 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:11.52 | Ruad | make your money work for you |
| 09:11.56 | Ruad | something like that |
| 09:12.17 | Ruad | lol |
| 09:14.13 | [atomi] | yeah i dont know any other way to say it |
| 09:14.27 | Ruad | [atomi], good way of saying it |
| 09:15.22 | [atomi] | thanks i hope that helps you in your bizz |
| 09:15.39 | Ruad | It already has |
| 09:15.41 | Ruad | thanks |
| 09:16.00 | [atomi] | heh |
| 09:16.27 | lyken | i charge for my intelligence |
| 09:16.34 | lyken | 'how do i do this ?' |
| 09:16.40 | lyken | that'll cost you $2000 |
| 09:16.44 | lyken | takes me 2 hrs to do |
| 09:16.53 | lyken | i give them the week of thinking im doing stuff |
| 09:16.58 | lyken | then hand it in 5 days early |
| 09:17.05 | lyken | they think im awesome, and i get bonus.. |
| 09:18.48 | [atomi] | yeah i bet you're worth more than they pay you lyken |
| 09:19.08 | lyken | prolly |
| 09:19.13 | lyken | but meh.. :) |
| 09:19.14 | [atomi] | but i don't know you personally... you could just be sitting around doing nothing all day |
| 09:19.18 | [atomi] | :) |
| 09:19.28 | [atomi] | looking at pr0n or somethin |
| 09:19.30 | lyken | the other day i did a web contract (which i usually dont do) |
| 09:19.44 | lyken | 6 web pages for a survey + db backend and export csv |
| 09:19.47 | lyken | $2500 |
| 09:20.33 | [atomi] | yeah a friend of mine did http://girlsgonewild.com/ e-commerce site |
| 09:20.52 | [atomi] | believe me that site makes a hella lot more than what he charged to make it... |
| 09:21.31 | lyken | [atomi]: yer |
| 09:21.35 | [atomi] | he was saying the numbers are in the million |
| 09:21.38 | [atomi] | s |
| 09:21.46 | lyken | then again if i wanted to make money, id do that |
| 09:21.59 | lyken | except its not in my 'lifeplan' |
| 09:22.14 | lyken | this world is already driven by greed |
| 09:22.14 | [atomi] | heh, ok |
| 09:22.34 | Ruad | lyken, I like your thinking |
| 09:22.35 | lyken | if i can choose not to contribute to that then all the better i say |
| 09:22.47 | lyken | doesnt mean i wont make money |
| 09:22.57 | lyken | cause unfortunately nothing in this world is free |
| 09:23.11 | [atomi] | well yeah |
| 09:23.53 | Ruad | true |
| 09:25.44 | Ruad | bbl |
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| 09:38.29 | yassine | gppd morning the Cats :) |
| 09:38.40 | yassine | good morning the Cats :) |
| 09:39.05 | eborn | what would be the preffered method to do mass virtual tomcat hosting? At the moment, it seems that Apache Rewrite rules in combination with one autodeploying <host> would be the best way to go... |
| 09:52.10 | yassine | eborn, thats the one most people uses |
| 09:52.40 | yassine | personally i have tried to do that with mod_jk |
| 09:52.54 | yassine | but that was not that easy as i expected |
| 09:53.18 | yassine | so stick to apache rewrite i think its the best one at the moment |
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| 10:07.47 | eborn | yassine> yeah, it's seems to do the trick. I'll have to symlink the www-directories under one root directory |
| 10:08.17 | eborn | the only problem i'm facing is setting different policies for different hosting accounts |
| 10:08.41 | eborn | doesn't seem to be possible without running a tomcat for every vhost |
| 10:12.58 | Ruad | lol |
| 10:15.04 | Ruad | yassine seems to be busy |
| 10:18.29 | eborn | aren't we all? :P |
| 10:18.58 | eborn | the only person who tends to forget that fact is my boss ;) |
| 10:22.48 | Ruad | lol |
| 10:22.58 | Ruad | I am the boss so I have to forget that I am busy |
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| 12:11.14 | Ruad | anyone awake over here? |
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| 12:43.24 | Santa | hi |
| 12:43.33 | Santa | <c:out value="${u2.voornaam}" /> |
| 12:43.35 | Santa | that works |
| 12:43.46 | Santa | but how can I use u2.voornaam in java itself??? |
| 12:46.04 | W_work | what's that? |
| 12:46.05 | W_work | jsp I guess |
| 12:46.16 | Santa | yes |
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| 12:50.14 | yel | heya |
| 12:53.05 | Ruad | loyer |
| 12:53.10 | Ruad | lo yel |
| 12:53.13 | Ruad | lol |
| 12:53.19 | yel | :) |
| 12:53.30 | yel | and how is your stuff Ruad ? |
| 12:53.42 | Ruad | no much better I am afraid |
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| 13:23.45 | gstaniak | hi |
| 13:24.13 | gstaniak | could anyone help with tomcat4 problems on fc4? |
| 13:25.52 | W_work | you'll have to ask a more specific question to find out. |
| 13:27.55 | gstaniak | W_work: init script barfs: series of '/usr/bin/rebuild-jar-repository: error: Could not find [sth] Java extension for this JVM' errors |
| 13:29.17 | W_work | you got suns jdk? |
| 13:29.31 | W_work | probably not |
| 13:30.18 | gstaniak | yes, i've got suns jdk (1.4.2_10), built from jpackage srpm |
| 13:31.50 | W_work | seems lots of people get that error message with different extensions |
| 13:31.58 | W_work | and it's usually a matter of installing the missing jars |
| 13:32.43 | W_work | never heard of sth tho |
| 13:34.29 | gstaniak | sorry, i inserted 'sth' just to mark the place where various extension names go |
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| 13:40.48 | gstaniak | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.17 | gstaniak | W_work: do i have to have two sets of extensions installed, each built for a particular jvm? |
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| 15:44.37 | Nexus | Ok. I've got 2 servers and I'm trying to create identical setups of the same webapp. One one, if I go to www.domain.com/login/servlet/audio, I get a message. The other, I go to the same URL, and it says The requested resource (/login/servlet/audio) is not available |
| 15:46.04 | jasonb | What do the logs in the second installation say? Any errors or other info about deployment failing or not starting? |
| 15:46.09 | Nexus | They have the same files as far as I can tell. |
| 15:46.16 | Nexus | Let me check. |
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| 15:47.32 | yassine | jasonb, heya :) |
| 15:47.46 | yassine | hello everyone |
| 15:47.51 | Nexus | Should I look in apache logs or tomcat logs? |
| 15:48.02 | Nexus | (Apache logs show that I accessed the url, but show no errors) |
| 15:48.39 | Nexus | The tomcat logs have no mention of audio. |
| 15:48.54 | jasonb | yassine: Good morning. |
| 15:49.18 | Nexus | I don't see anything in the logs about audio on the working box either (tomcat logs). |
| 15:49.44 | jasonb | Nexus: Is the unavailable message page a page from Tomcat? (should say at the bottom) |
| 15:49.51 | Nexus | Yes, it is. |
| 15:50.05 | Nexus | Apache Tomcat/4.1.31 |
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| 15:50.31 | jasonb | Nexus: Okay, and the second installation's logs show that it started your context successfully? |
| 15:50.58 | jasonb | Also, have you tried restarting Tomcat on the second machine? |
| 15:51.27 | Nexus | I'm not quite sure what that means, but everything else works on the install but the audio servlet (I don't really know too much about what I'm talking about) |
| 15:51.56 | Nexus | I did restart it and nothing seems to have changed. |
| 15:52.03 | Nexus | catalina.out doesn't have any error messages. |
| 15:52.17 | jasonb | Sounds like something was installed differently between the two. |
| 15:53.11 | *** join/#tomcat slak- (i=slak@rewted.biz) |
| 15:53.13 | slak- | hiii |
| 15:53.44 | slak- | how come when i do ps -aux for tomcat i see like 15 pid's |
| 15:53.47 | Nexus | You'd think... But I copied the jsp files and the tomcat files exactly. |
| 15:53.49 | slak- | slackware |
| 15:54.53 | slak- | only one tomcat is running |
| 15:55.08 | slak- | so why all the pid's? |
| 15:57.14 | swente | slak-: do they have equal PIDs? |
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| 16:02.16 | jasonb | slak-: http://tomcat.apache.org/faq/unix.html#ps |
| 16:02.33 | slak- | swente: no, incremented by 1 |
| 16:02.58 | slak- | okay well thats great |
| 16:03.03 | swente | i tend to think it's tomcat's threads .. which jre do you use? |
| 16:03.08 | slak- | but sometimes tomcat hangs on our nightly shutdown |
| 16:03.17 | slak- | and when i try to restart it, surely fails |
| 16:03.31 | slak- | well i need to setup some automated way to kill a hanging tomcat instance |
| 16:03.35 | slak- | so that it restarts for sure |
| 16:03.52 | slak- | i tried to use ps and grep for the pid but it a real mess |
| 16:03.57 | slak- | there has to be an easier way |
| 16:06.27 | jasonb | slak-: You need reliable restarts, like my RPM already implements. |
| 16:06.58 | slak- | something in this gayed webapp is not shutting down properly and is causing tomcat tohang |
| 16:07.00 | jasonb | slak-: http://www.webdroid.org:8080/tomcat-package/ |
| 16:07.07 | slak- | well it finally happened on our production server |
| 16:07.11 | slak- | and the boss was furious |
| 16:07.31 | slak- | so as a short fix i need a sure way to make sure tomcat got killed before trying to start it again |
| 16:07.52 | slak- | man i dont have the rights to install rpm's |
| 16:07.57 | slak- | and its a slackware box |
| 16:08.16 | jasonb | slak-: Do you have the rights to look at my source? :) |
| 16:09.34 | slak- | aye!\ |
| 16:09.35 | slak- | thanks |
| 16:09.35 | slak- | this is different from official releases? |
| 16:11.15 | lyken | go find me some aliens jason! |
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| 16:23.45 | yassine | jasonb, how is JMS stuff from yesterday ? |
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| 16:28.38 | cypo | hi |
| 16:30.29 | cypo | Has anyone successfully integrated AspectJ 5 into tomcat 4.1? |
| 16:34.26 | Ruad | ello |
| 16:34.45 | cypo | hello |
| 16:34.55 | Ruad | wuzzup? |
| 16:35.13 | cypo | I'm trying to integrate AspectJ 5 into tomcat 4.1.30 |
| 16:35.32 | cypo | but up to now with little success :-/ |
| 16:36.30 | Ruad | well I am myself a tad new to tomcat |
| 16:36.49 | Ruad | jasonb is the god with tc if you are willing to wait for him to get to you |
| 16:37.21 | cypo | thx for the hint |
| 16:37.33 | yassine | heya |
| 16:37.48 | cypo | when is he supposed to come here? |
| 16:38.35 | jasonb | he is supposed to already have left for work. :( |
| 16:39.04 | cypo | damn, maybe someone else could share his/her wisdom with me :-) |
| 16:39.05 | jasonb | yassine: The JMS stuff is now implemented, and we're going to test it today. Cross your fingers. :) |
| 16:39.34 | jasonb | cypo: I'm on really often, but during the day (PST) I work a lot and can't do much in here. |
| 16:39.52 | cypo | ic |
| 16:39.53 | jasonb | cypo: But, I'm almost always on here, at least listening. |
| 16:40.08 | jasonb | I do need to leave for work now though. |
| 16:40.18 | cypo | ok, bye |
| 16:40.18 | yassine | jasonb, i will :) |
| 16:40.27 | cypo | I'll try to catch you tomorrow :) |
| 16:40.28 | jasonb | yassine: Thanks.. Cya. |
| 16:40.32 | jasonb | Okay. |
| 16:40.50 | cypo | do you have any knowledge about AspectJ? |
| 16:41.25 | jasonb | No, but I probably could answer lots of Tomcat development questions. :) |
| 16:41.33 | jasonb | bye guys. |
| 16:41.44 | cypo | in particular class loader issues ... |
| 16:42.40 | cypo | what time is it? |
| 16:46.57 | Ruad | 18h42 where I am |
| 16:47.01 | Ruad | dunno about you |
| 16:47.06 | Ruad | we are GMT+2 |
| 16:47.19 | cypo | GMT+1 over here |
| 16:47.48 | Ruad | yeah he is about 11 hour diff from us |
| 16:48.07 | Ruad | so it is about 7h30 to 7h45 there |
| 16:48.13 | Ruad | he is late for work |
| 16:48.50 | cypo | hmm, that'll make it hard to talk to him |
| 16:49.30 | Ruad | I usually catch him @ 2 in the morning |
| 16:50.18 | cypo | uh, that's too early for me |
| 16:50.28 | cypo | I have to get up at 6 |
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| 16:51.59 | cypo | wb |
| 16:52.54 | Ruad | thx |
| 16:53.01 | Ruad | dmn telecoms company |
| 16:53.28 | cypo | yup |
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| 16:54.41 | Ruad | I have gotten a diginet line for our company in the beginning of nov last year and I still havent received as much as a DNS server address from them |
| 16:55.54 | cypo | but you already paid? |
| 16:56.28 | Ruad | yes |
| 16:56.42 | Ruad | in nov already when we signed the contracts |
| 16:56.57 | Ruad | problem is I have to get my clients online |
| 16:57.09 | cypo | of course |
| 16:57.32 | cypo | what is their excuse for it? |
| 16:57.42 | Ruad | incompetence lol |
| 16:57.48 | cypo | :-) |
| 16:57.49 | Ruad | they don't give excuses |
| 16:58.08 | Ruad | up until Q4 this year they are the sole provider of leased line |
| 16:58.09 | Ruad | s |
| 16:58.20 | Ruad | and then it maxes on 2MB/line |
| 16:58.28 | cypo | ic, that's why they can act like they do |
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| 16:59.07 | cypo | otherwise everyone would consider to leave for a better provider |
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| 17:00.07 | cypo | wb ruad |
| 17:00.18 | ruad | ther it goes again |
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| 17:01.50 | cypo | I could imagine that it might be rather frustrating |
| 17:03.09 | ruad | I mean they are making it impossible for any hosting company to exist over here |
| 17:04.14 | cypo | how do you accomplish that? It looks like they make it quite easy for their competitors |
| 17:05.05 | cypo | if they don't care about their customers other companies will |
| 17:05.16 | ruad | ther is no other companies |
| 17:05.30 | ruad | they are the only telecoms company |
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| 17:07.36 | ruad | our laws has actually prohibited more than one hardwire telecoms company for the past 30 odd year |
| 17:07.37 | cypo | yes, but why aren't there any other? |
| 17:07.47 | cypo | ic |
| 17:07.48 | ruad | so they have a monopoly |
| 17:08.02 | ruad | only recently has the laws been adjusted to make way for a second |
| 17:08.22 | ruad | and they are busy putting their infrastructure in place |
| 17:08.23 | cypo | so it's only a matter of time |
| 17:08.43 | ruad | yeah |
| 17:09.02 | ruad | well they wil by Q4 this year be providing voice lines for home use |
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| 17:09.14 | ruad | q3 home use internet lines and such |
| 17:09.32 | ruad | and by the end of Q4 only services usable for corporate use |
| 17:09.56 | cypo | I'm afraid I have to leave now |
| 17:10.16 | cypo | maybe till tomorrow, we'll see |
| 17:10.21 | cypo | bye ruad |
| 17:10.25 | ruad | have to go as well |
| 17:10.31 | ruad | seeya all tomorrow |
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| 17:32.35 | Fadioro | Hi folks need help with Javamail applied on Tomcat 5.5!! anyone? |
| 17:46.27 | Fadioro | I may should just ask the question straightforward.. Iam using the Java Studio Enterprise 8 and building a webapplication using the Java Standard Edition 1.5, So! in my application, I need sending Email, but does not have the javax.mail , so what I did is, Importet the Mail.Jar to my ApplicationLibraries, and configured Tomcat to use Java Mail, putting the Mail.Jar and Actionvation.Jar in... |
| 17:46.28 | Fadioro | ...the Server Common/Lib , but ended in the dilemma of having the Mail.Jar in both Application/WEB-INF/LIB and in COMMON/LIB at the server, which accourding to the configuration tutorial at tomcat.apache.org I whould end with an ERROR!!! Please someone help out!! |
| 17:48.28 | yassine | Fadioro, why not storing your jar only in the common/lib ? |
| 17:50.35 | larryBoy | or just in WEB-INF/lib |
| 17:54.04 | Fadioro | ok, If I store my Jar , only in the COMMON/LIB, how would I get access to Javax.mail, javax.event and javax.internet etc?? to write the code and get access to Message and MimeMessage classes??? |
| 17:55.07 | Fadioro | And if stored only in WEB-INF/lib would not confirm to the Configuration tutorial of Java mail at apache.tomcat.org |
| 17:57.12 | Fadioro | larryBoy, do you mean that I would have both mail.jar and activation.jar in my WEB-INF/lib only?? would this work? |
| 17:57.53 | larryBoy | i think it would |
| 18:01.49 | Fadioro | Ok larryBoy, I´ll give it a try rightaway, beside having those jars in my application lib, what about the context.xml ? should i move the <Resource> decleration from server.xml to my local contxt.xml? |
| 18:01.57 | swente | Fadioro: you can either put all below web-inf/lib, and use javamail api directly, or you can let javamail run as sortof service [can be shared between multiple apps, and should be more efficient] |
| 18:02.27 | swente | Fadioro: your resource-ref points me that you want to use it as service -- then the jars have to go to common/lib :) |
| 18:03.13 | Fadioro | Yes swente, I would like to do that, but there is a dilemma!! |
| 18:03.54 | swente | Fadioro: the common/lib-classes should be visible to your webapp |
| 18:04.03 | Fadioro | aha |
| 18:04.17 | Fadioro | they are? |
| 18:04.19 | Fadioro | hehe |
| 18:04.29 | Fadioro | thanx swente |
| 18:04.57 | swente | iirc "common" are visible to tomcat & webapps, 'shared/lib' are for all webapps, 'server/lib' are for tomcat alone |
| 18:05.25 | Fadioro | so I could just reference those in common/lib jars in my application |
| 18:05.35 | Fadioro | nice |
| 18:05.44 | Fadioro | Many many thanx swente!! |
| 18:05.55 | swente | Fadioro: np.. did you see http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/jndi-resources-howto.html ? |
| 18:06.57 | Fadioro | yes i did, but did I miss something? |
| 18:07.16 | Fadioro | Swente Iam new to apache |
| 18:07.24 | Fadioro | or tomcat |
| 18:07.25 | Fadioro | hehe |
| 18:07.36 | swente | mmh no, just remembered it and wanted to point you to the javamail-examples there:) |
| 18:08.20 | swente | Fadioro: but as you knew it already.. |
| 18:08.22 | Fadioro | Yes, but I was confused and a bit afraid of how to reference Jars i my application |
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| 18:08.48 | swente | Fadioro: ok:) |
| 18:08.52 | Fadioro | :) |
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| 18:11.43 | a4akb | \o? |
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| 20:30.33 | mattmunz | Hi all. I sent a message to users@tomcat.apache.org, with no response. Can anyone here recommend a strategy for web application configuration that does not involve editing the web.xml file every time I redeploy? For example, is there a way to put key-value pairs in the global context file such that I can lookup that information in my servlet? |
| 20:44.50 | swente | mattmunz: perhaps you could use context-parameters? [http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html] |
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| 20:54.28 | swente | mattmunz1: (in case you didn't get it the first time -- as you timeouted) perhaps you could use context-parameters? [http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/context.html] |
| 21:05.50 | mattmun1 | swente: thanks. I will take a closer look. I admit that I am finding this documentation a little hard to read. If I put a Context Parameter in $CATALINA_HOME/conf/context.xml, then this will be the same as putting the equivalent context-param in every web.xml deployed to that tomcat instance? |
| 21:06.20 | swente | i think so, although i've never used it so far |
| 21:18.12 | mattmun1 | cool. I'll give it a try. |
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| 21:49.35 | jasonb | Hey there Hellaenergy. |
| 21:49.44 | Hellaenergy | Yo jasonb |
| 21:49.55 | Hellaenergy | Topic: Spring |
| 21:49.55 | jasonb | How's the Harley cruisin'? |
| 21:50.06 | Hellaenergy | http://www.springframework.org/about |
| 21:50.10 | Hellaenergy | I live in MN |
| 21:50.21 | Hellaenergy | I'm not crusin yet :) |
| 21:50.23 | jasonb | Not good then? 8-) |
| 21:50.25 | Hellaenergy | There is ice on the road |
| 21:50.38 | Hellaenergy | Not for a couple of months yet |
| 21:50.38 | jasonb | .. which explains why you're in here. :) |
| 21:50.46 | Hellaenergy | no doubt. |
| 21:51.02 | Hellaenergy | Have you looked in to Spring (the framework) yet? |
| 21:51.55 | Hellaenergy | That is funny that Spring is hosted by a php site using drupal |
| 21:52.58 | jasonb | That's a hint. |
| 21:53.23 | jasonb | No, I've spent zero time on Spring as of now. And, I've been happy. |
| 21:53.31 | Hellaenergy | lol |
| 21:53.55 | jasonb | I feel lighter, faster, and better, really. |
| 21:54.01 | larryBoy | spring ROCKS |
| 21:54.05 | larryBoy | :) |
| 21:55.06 | larryBoy | i have used it for IoC with iBATIS+Struts... |
| 21:55.12 | Hellaenergy | larryBoy, do you use it? |
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| 21:55.20 | larryBoy | makes for some uber-testable code |
| 21:55.35 | larryBoy | i use the struts plug-in for spring managed actions |
| 21:55.59 | larryBoy | and then inject all the service classes onto them, and the daos onto the service classes |
| 21:56.09 | jasonb | larryBoy: When you use the Struts mapper that way, do you still get blank broken pages? |
| 21:56.19 | larryBoy | i was really impressed at how much it cleans up the source |
| 21:56.48 | larryBoy | no jasonb, it is a silver bullet that makes all things work perfectly 100% of the time |
| 21:56.50 | larryBoy | :) |
| 21:56.56 | mdanjou | what to do with BUILD FAILED ava.io.FileNotFoundException: /root/apache-tomcat-5.5.15-src/jasper/build.xml (No such file or directory) |
| 21:56.58 | larryBoy | was that sarcastic? |
| 21:57.01 | larryBoy | :) |
| 21:58.05 | jasonb | heh. I'm a recovering Strutsaholic. |
| 21:58.12 | larryBoy | hah |
| 21:58.20 | larryBoy | what are you using these days? |
| 21:58.31 | larryBoy | <- pragmatist |
| 21:58.48 | jasonb | Well, you mean what would I use if I had a job where I worked on a webapp? :) |
| 21:59.08 | larryBoy | i use what i use because it works..but when something better comes along..i use that instead |
| 21:59.14 | larryBoy | heh, no webapps? |
| 21:59.35 | Hellaenergy | Spring's transaction support is not tied to J2EE environments |
| 21:59.36 | jasonb | I would use JSTL tag libs, and maybe even Struts tag libs, but not the Struts mapper. I think I would just not use any third party mapper. |
| 21:59.58 | larryBoy | what do you mean struts mapper? |
| 22:02.29 | Hellaenergy | For me Spring is attactive because our developers are using it to get me off of JBoss |
| 22:02.41 | Hellaenergy | Strait Tomcat + Spring |
| 22:03.14 | Hellaenergy | And jasonb you'll be glad to know that * The Spring Framework is licensed under the terms of the Apache License, Version 2.0. |
| 22:03.17 | larryBoy | i have not heard one good story about using spring's MVC web stuff |
| 22:04.06 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Yes, at least the license is okay. |
| 22:04.34 | Hellaenergy | Come on jasonb its HOt |
| 22:04.50 | jasonb | larryBoy: Struts has a request mapper and a tag library.. probably has some other little things, but those two main things are really what people think of when they say Struts. |
| 22:05.01 | jasonb | larryBoy: One can use the tag library without the mapper, or vice versa. |
| 22:05.17 | larryBoy | ok, that is what i thought you meant |
| 22:05.25 | jasonb | yup. |
| 22:06.17 | larryBoy | have you tried JSF yet? |
| 22:06.33 | larryBoy | gah, talk about a conceptual shift |
| 22:07.30 | jasonb | I looked at it, but never actually used it. |
| 22:07.47 | jasonb | It appeared too limited to me, but that's just me. |
| 22:11.31 | Hellaenergy | Do either of you use X-Doclet? |
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| 22:16.47 | jasonb | I think soon xdoclet will look outdated since annotations are now the way to go. |
| 22:17.06 | Hellaenergy | any good resource for that topic jasonb? |
| 22:18.14 | Hellaenergy | ibot: annotations is at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/language/annotations.html |
| 22:18.15 | ibot | Hellaenergy: okay |
| 22:19.13 | Hellaenergy | We are just moving to 1.5 now :) |
| 22:20.23 | larryBoy | generics are cool |
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| 22:36.02 | Fadioro | Hi , I use the JDBCRealm to authenticate users, but I need to lock users whom faild to login three times in a row. any tips on how to combine this with the JDBCRealm? should i write a filter for this? links to tutorials and documents are appreciated |
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| 22:46.34 | larryBoy | Fadioro, that may not be as simple as it seems on the surface... |
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| 22:48.28 | Fadioro | larryBoy, is it so? .. i had a sense of that all day :( |
| 22:49.11 | larryBoy | writing a realm is not that hard, but it may be trickier to know which requests are authentication requests |
| 22:49.20 | larryBoy | it has been a while since I looked at that api |
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| 22:50.48 | enemy^x | I`m getting ERROR main org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.[Catalina].[localhost].[/msh] - Servlet /msh threw load() exception in my logs... still trying to figure this out. I`m wondering if "localhost" could have something to do with it? tomcat has binded correctly. |
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| 22:52.08 | larryBoy | enemy^x, is that all you get? no stack trace or nothing? |
| 22:52.34 | Fadioro | ok, you sad writing a realm? honstly I dont even know how to or where to begin.. just followed the instructions at the apache tomcat realm "how to documentation" and Iam trying to find some topics at the sun forums |
| 22:53.45 | enemy^x | larryboy: http://pastebin.ca/41783 |
| 22:55.34 | larryBoy | looks like a problem with the constructor |
| 22:55.40 | larryBoy | or a static init |
| 22:56.57 | Fadioro | larryboy, when a user attempt faild to login, and redirected to the error.jsp.. can i somehow at the 3:rd try "catch the user and redirect the user to a no more try left page" and invalidate the session |
| 22:57.32 | larryBoy | that might work, try it |
| 23:00.25 | enemy^x | larryboy: static init? like a static path or something? |
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| 23:05.34 | yassine | jasonb, still there ? |
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| 23:21.31 | larryBoy | enemy^x, static block or static initializer |
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