| 00:24.45 | crackhead | hello everyone |
| 00:24.54 | crackhead | I was wondering if there is a way to configure a webapp's context |
| 00:24.58 | crackhead | for example if I have foo.war then I can go to localhost:8080/foo |
| 00:25.07 | crackhead | I assume there is a way to configure that in web.xml |
| 00:25.20 | crackhead | but I can't seem to find it |
| 00:26.01 | crackhead | it seems that this is a container specific thing from what I've seen so far |
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| 01:34.47 | JustinTArthur | Are any of you here pretty familiar with using mod_jk and AJP with Apache HTTPd and Apache Tomcat? |
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| 01:51.41 | JustinTArthur | Like how to get an AJP worker to use a specific virtual host of a tomcat instance. |
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| 01:57.29 | JustinTArthur | Or even better, a specific context of a tomcat instance. |
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| 05:59.35 | hokatichenci | Is the admin application important at all |
| 05:59.42 | hokatichenci | It seems some other admin managed to remove it |
| 06:09.25 | jasonb | hokatichenci: If you're comfortable editing xml config files then you basically don't need the admin webapp. |
| 06:18.18 | hokatichenci | alright, thanks |
| 06:18.38 | hokatichenci | I didn't even know about the admin app until after I had configured everything (go figure), but I wasn't sure if it was really a prerequisite. |
| 06:19.36 | jasonb | You're welcome. |
| 06:19.48 | jasonb | I don't even use the admin webapp, and I use Tomcat about as much as anybody. :) |
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| 06:41.19 | Cow_woC | hi |
| 06:41.43 | Cow_woC | I can use JConsole to monitor any app using Mustang but for some reason Tomcat 5.5.12 does not show up. Does it mask itself from jconsole/jps somehow? |
| 06:53.11 | jasonb | No. |
| 06:53.32 | jasonb | Did you start the Tomcat JVM such that it allows JMX remote connections? |
| 06:53.47 | jasonb | If so, what JVM startup switches did you use for that? |
| 06:56.07 | Cow_woC | ok, I think I know the problem though not how to fix it |
| 06:56.59 | Cow_woC | for jconsole to work, you must be executing tomcat under the same user account as jconsole. When you run Tomcat as a service it runs under a different account. I tried using Tomcat Configuration Manager -> Log On as ... and I entered my username/password but when I restart the config manager it loses my settings and defaults back to the system account |
| 06:57.04 | Cow_woC | is this a bug? |
| 06:57.56 | jasonb | That all sounds like a Windows-specific thing, so I wouldn't know. |
| 06:58.37 | Cow_woC | well how do you get Tomcat to run as a different user under linux? |
| 06:58.52 | Cow_woC | or is this outside the scope of tomcat because you use cron or something? |
| 06:58.54 | Cow_woC | or inet... |
| 06:58.58 | jasonb | There are plenty of ways of doing that. |
| 06:59.11 | jasonb | It's not outside any scope. |
| 06:59.48 | Cow_woC | my point is, is there a configuration manager for linux? |
| 06:59.58 | Cow_woC | which allows you to configure what user tomcat runs as? |
| 07:00.04 | jasonb | Everything in Linux runs as a particular user ID, so anything that must run as a particular user ID must be started that way, and there are several ways of going about that (for situational flexibility). |
| 07:01.05 | jasonb | How servers run, exactly, usually depends on how they're packaged. Tomcat itself has no specific OS packaging, except for Windows. ASF offers zip file and tar.gz distributions of Tomcat for all other platforms, whatever they may be. |
| 07:01.28 | jasonb | So, it's up to a different set of people to decide how it's packaged for any given OS, other than Windows. |
| 07:01.50 | jasonb | And, for Linux, there are many different kinds of custom packages that people have made for it. |
| 07:02.02 | jasonb | So, it's package-specific. |
| 07:02.16 | Cow_woC | right, so I'm going to file a bug report against the windows configuration manager then |
| 07:02.27 | jasonb | But, there's no reason why, at least on Linux, there couldn't be a config file where you can change the user name of the user that Tomcat runs as when it runs. |
| 07:03.03 | jasonb | It's possible that it is a bug, but I couldn't tell you if it's a Tomcat bug or a Windows bug. |
| 07:03.44 | Cow_woC | I would say it is a config manager bug because I enter settings and they disappear when I restart the config manager |
| 07:04.15 | jasonb | yeah, that could be. |
| 07:04.50 | jasonb | You said this was Mustang? (JDK 1.6.x?) |
| 07:07.20 | Cow_woC | I found out why Tomcat config manager is failing |
| 07:08.02 | Cow_woC | the user I specified did not have a "run as a service" privilege. It had to be added. If you manipulate the tomcat service directly, Windows tells you it auto-adds you that privilege |
| 07:08.10 | Cow_woC | I'm going to file a bug and explain what they need to fix |
| 07:09.39 | jasonb | Great. I'm glad you found what was wrong. I'm sure the Tomcat committers would be happy to hear. |
| 07:10.16 | Cow_woC | :) |
| 07:11.30 | jasonb | It appears you're getting similar answers in ##java. :) |
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| 11:11.58 | FireDragon | Anyone awake? |
| 11:19.47 | FireDragon | I just installed Tomcat under IIS and I need to write a servlet to access SQL and transmit data to a cell phone. I'm lost on the server side, I don't think Tomcat is really setup, though I installed it, do I need to install Tomcat connector as well? Where do I put the servlet code, and does the Java code need to be compiled? I've installed Dev Studio 2005 and NetBeans, can I compile with one or both of those? |
| 11:20.05 | FireDragon | (Sorry for the basic bonehead question here) |
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| 11:59.56 | kazey | well i have a small problem. I created a file named tomcat with config content in /etc/init.d/ and I try to run : service tomcat start and it gives me this error : env: /etc/init.d/tomcat: No such file or directory |
| 12:00.04 | kazey | any ideas what I am missing? |
| 12:31.26 | ki | is the file executable? |
| 12:31.52 | ki | can you execute it with /etc/init.d/tomcat start |
| 12:44.54 | kazey | yes |
| 12:45.00 | kazey | I am retrying something |
| 12:45.02 | kazey | would be back |
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| 17:11.05 | JustinTArthur | Anyone with mod_jk experience in here? |
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| 17:11.58 | a4akb | ibot larryBoy |
| 17:11.59 | ibot | methinks larryboy is Zurg |
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| 17:26.39 | a4akb | ibot yawn |
| 17:26.41 | ibot | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
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| 17:42.24 | Mage_ | hello |
| 17:42.39 | Mage_ | I've a strange error when I try to access a webapp : http://rafb.net/paste/results/V4RGwa80.html |
| 17:42.54 | Mage_ | the webapp is located under /var/lib/tomcat5/webapps/srs |
| 17:43.28 | Mage_ | and I've put this in my policy : http://rafb.net/paste/results/xTYm2297.html |
| 17:43.58 | Mage_ | if I launch tomcat without the security manager it works ... any idea ? |
| 17:55.27 | jasonb | Don't use the security manager. |
| 17:56.21 | jasonb | What's the strange error? |
| 17:56.32 | jasonb | oh, wait.. :) |
| 17:59.12 | jasonb | Yeah, maybe you need more SocketPermissions. |
| 18:01.42 | Mage_ | I go eating .. bbl |
| 18:01.52 | Mage_ | I'll try to add more SocketPermissions |
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| 18:04.50 | a4akb | . |
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| 18:20.15 | ericw | hello |
| 18:21.37 | a4akb | hi |
| 18:21.51 | ericw | is there a good quick-start for tomcat? I simply have a .war file I want to deploy. The official documentation doesn't seem to directly address this in any way without years of reading. |
| 18:24.41 | Marv|LG | download tomcat |
| 18:24.45 | Marv|LG | put war in the webapps dir |
| 18:24.48 | Marv|LG | start tomcat |
| 18:25.59 | a4akb | \o/ |
| 18:26.23 | a4akb | simpull |
| 18:27.18 | Marv|LG | he said simple :) |
| 18:27.28 | a4akb | yes |
| 18:27.30 | a4akb | sympull |
| 18:27.47 | ericw | thanks |
| 18:27.54 | ericw | I ended up reading the Debian.README |
| 18:27.59 | ericw | and it sort of said the same thing |
| 18:28.00 | ericw | ;-) |
| 18:30.25 | FireDragon | I just installed Tomcat under IIS and I need to write a servlet to access SQL and transmit data to a cell phone. I'm lost on the server side, I don't think Tomcat is really setup, though I installed it, do I need to install Tomcat connector as well? Where do I put the servlet code, and does the Java code need to be compiled? |
| 18:46.50 | JustinTArthur | What do you need IIS for, my friend? |
| 18:49.25 | FireDragon | I don't know, is Tomcat a web server on it's own, or are you promoting Apache? (I'm totally new to server side programming) |
| 18:50.24 | FireDragon | I need to write an SQL servlet to transmit data to a cell phone app. |
| 18:50.56 | JustinTArthur | Ahh, no worries. Tomcat is indeed a web server. It's primary purpose, however is that of a "servlet container", meaning the environment from which servlets (and JSPs) are executed, but it works just fine for serving static content. If you don't need to use ASPs or PHP scripts on this site, then I see no reason whatsoever to just use Tomcat to serve your web content. |
| 18:51.23 | JustinTArthur | Er, rather, I see no reason whatsoever to use IIS as well as Tomcat. |
| 18:51.46 | FireDragon | Ah, PHP! I'd like to run osCommerce at some point to |
| 18:51.51 | FireDragon | (too) |
| 18:52.45 | FireDragon | osCommerce is implemented in either PHP or .NET |
| 18:53.01 | JustinTArthur | Ok, well that's some reason to look into running IIS alongside Tomcat. What you'd have to do though is either have IIS running on a seperate port than your servlet container OR having IIS as your main web server, and using a technology like JK to make IIS pass along requests for servlets and JSPs to Tomcat. |
| 18:53.14 | JustinTArthur | And that can be a lot of work if you're new to Tomcat. |
| 18:54.20 | FireDragon | Ugh, yes I've been reading about JK, which is when I threw up my hands and started looking for human help |
| 18:55.00 | FireDragon | Which port should I reset, Tomcat's or IIS's? |
| 18:55.09 | JustinTArthur | Heh, yea, JK can be quite a pain to figure out. |
| 18:55.35 | JustinTArthur | FireDragon: hopefully, you won't have to reset either port. The default port for IIS is usually 80, and the default port for tomcat is usually 8080 or something like that. |
| 18:56.43 | FireDragon | Yes, I definitely keep seeing htttp://localhost.8080 in connection w/ Tomcat. So it should already be working just fine? |
| 18:57.03 | JustinTArthur | There's a good chance it is. Have you tried going to that in a web browser on this same machine? |
| 18:59.51 | FireDragon | I just did, page can't be displayed. Could there be nothing at the root? I remember reading about an /example page under the root |
| 19:00.33 | FireDragon | (BTW, if computer name='myke' is http://myke.8080 the proper request?) |
| 19:00.48 | JustinTArthur | Replace that period with a colon. |
| 19:03.05 | FireDragon | Aha!! Thank you very much!! So one more question to get me started developing, how do you install a servlet? |
| 19:04.02 | FireDragon | And can you compile it with either NetBeans or Dev Studio 2005, or is it interpreted as text by JVM or what? |
| 19:05.11 | JustinTArthur | Well, installing a servlet is a matter of compiling it and then deploying it along with your entire web application (which is usually deployed in the form of a war file). If you're looking for something that you can just sort of drop into your webapp and it will be interpreted (compiled, really) on the spot, then you'll want to look into JSP (Java Server Pages). |
| 19:06.16 | FireDragon | Compiling is fine, I wont even have a web app really, I just want to transmit SQL data to a mobile phone |
| 19:06.53 | FireDragon | How do you make a war? |
| 19:07.39 | JustinTArthur | Ok, well you may want to have a quick look at the app building tutorial on the Tomcat website. It takes you through building a web application, and how to write up ant scripts to do most of the compile work for ya. |
| 19:08.03 | JustinTArthur | http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/appdev/ |
| 19:08.47 | FireDragon | Does the Ant script compile or somehow incorporate the servlet or servlet code? |
| 19:08.50 | JustinTArthur | ant is basically a way of automating the build process using scripts that resemble makefiles (if you've ever done any C/C++ programming with make files). |
| 19:09.09 | JustinTArthur | Take a look through the tutorial and see if that helps clear anything up for ya. |
| 19:10.21 | kazey | why is the version of tomcat5 at jpackage not the stable package? |
| 19:10.23 | JustinTArthur | Once you've gotten that down, if you're not familiar with database programming in Java, try google searching for some JSP and JDBC examples. |
| 19:10.37 | JustinTArthur | I don't know what this jpackage is that you speak of. |
| 19:10.52 | JustinTArthur | It's generally best to get tomcat from the official site, http://tomcat.apache.org/ |
| 19:11.16 | FireDragon | yes, lots and lots of C++. Writing and compiling code is easy, it's alien environments that scare me! |
| 19:11.26 | kazey | 5.0.30 is not stable right? |
| 19:11.58 | JustinTArthur | kazey: that's correct. IIRC, it's in a beta state right now. |
| 19:12.23 | JustinTArthur | 5.5.15 is stable to the bet of my knowledge though. |
| 19:12.26 | JustinTArthur | *best |
| 19:12.29 | kazey | :) thank |
| 19:12.31 | kazey | you |
| 19:12.33 | JustinTArthur | np |
| 19:14.06 | FireDragon | At http://ant.apache.org/bindownload.cgi I just stumbled across a link to JPackage.org at the top of the page, whatever that is |
| 19:15.23 | kazey | they compile rpms I suppose |
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| 20:33.35 | ericw | should I put my .jar files into $CATALINA_HOME/shared/lib ? |
| 20:33.46 | larryBoy | no |
| 20:33.56 | larryBoy | put them with your web app |
| 20:34.07 | ericw | larryBoy, I was given a .jar and a .war file to deploy |
| 20:34.09 | larryBoy | unless you HAVE to put them in a shared location |
| 20:34.13 | ericw | I have the war file out there... |
| 20:34.21 | ericw | and its showing in the tomcat manager as being deployed |
| 20:34.23 | larryBoy | is the jar file a jdbc driver? |
| 20:34.32 | ericw | larryBoy, I doubt it. |
| 20:35.07 | larryBoy | are you getting errors when you run the app? |
| 20:35.59 | ericw | I get an empty directory listing |
| 20:36.42 | ericw | and the logs show nothing |
| 20:36.47 | larryBoy | hm |
| 20:37.18 | larryBoy | does the war file have anything in it? |
| 20:37.41 | larryBoy | you can uzip it with anything - unzip on linux, or winzip on windows |
| 20:38.10 | ericw | I know.. |
| 20:38.12 | ericw | I checked that already :) |
| 20:39.34 | ericw | hmm. know what? I think my client doesn't know what this does ;-) |
| 20:39.59 | larryBoy | sorry, gotta run |
| 20:40.09 | ericw | thanks, I think I have it figured out now |
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| 20:56.42 | Aleph_One | hi all, anyone knows if there is a _standard_ taglib for portlets? |
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| 21:17.59 | ILF_ | i'm trying to install tomcat on freebsd. did point 3 of this: https://docs.indymedia.org/view/Devel/MiRInstallFreeBSD - yet, it doesn't start and nothing listens on :8080 :( help? |
| 21:18.11 | ILF_ | where are the logs? |
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| 22:18.15 | jasonb | ILF_: Watch your logs in the /usr/local/jakarta-tomcat55/logs/ directory, especially the stdout.log and stderr.log files so that you can see if there are errors. |
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| 22:32.27 | ILF_ | jasonb: hmm, stderr.log ir full of http://pastebin.com/540776 - i'm using kaffe. does it not work? |
| 22:33.22 | jasonb | ILF_: Well, you're asking me "does an incomplete, incompatible Java runtime work?" I suppose the answer should be "no". |
| 22:33.39 | jasonb | (at least for Tomcat) |
| 22:34.18 | jasonb | About 6 or 8 months ago, I was able to get Tomcat to run on the latest version of Kaffe at that time. But, barely, and only with some small hacks. |
| 22:34.44 | jasonb | If you want it to work, don't use Kaffe. |
| 22:35.39 | jasonb | Also, would you like to try out my instructions on how to get TC 5.5 working on FreeBSD? |
| 22:38.40 | ILF_ | jasonb: yeah, sure |
| 22:39.04 | ILF_ | jasonb: on debian and gentoo kaffe works. and someone also got it to work on freebsd. weird. |
| 22:40.09 | jasonb | ILF_: Well, "works" as in it starts up, maybe even with Tomcat running and serving simple pages.. but Kaffe's core class library is not complete, and has lots of bugs. So, just about any webapp you write will fail somehow on it. |
| 22:40.46 | ILF_ | actually, the entire mir cms (powers www.indymedia.org) works flawlessly with kaffe |
| 22:42.15 | jasonb | Amazing coincidence. |
| 22:42.42 | ILF_ | :) |
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