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| 01:26.53 | faded_ | question. were there any major differences to the syntax of conf/server.xml and web.xml from 5.0 to 5.5.12 ? |
| 01:37.38 | mw46 | what do you mean with major? |
| 01:54.41 | jasonb | faded_: there are changes that could keep a webapp from working properly, if that's what you mean. |
| 02:07.33 | faded_ | jasonb: yes.. i have been trying to change web.xmls and server.xml from 5.5 to 5.0 :/ |
| 02:08.03 | faded_ | often getting parse errors.. |
| 02:08.46 | faded_ | where can I find the web.xml specification? |
| 02:09.17 | faded_ | I get: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: The processing instruction target matching "[xX][mM][lL]" is not allowed. |
| 02:09.53 | lyken | uh.. |
| 02:10.40 | jasonb | faded_: The web.xml format is specified in the Java Servlet Specification. |
| 02:11.34 | jasonb | lyken: I think I've seen that one before.. when people put the standard element at the top of web.xml I think.. |
| 02:12.22 | lyken | arh |
| 02:12.36 | faded_ | is there anywhere I can see the changes to the web.xml spec from 5.0 to 5.5.x ? |
| 02:12.54 | lyken | why dont you just re-write it? |
| 02:14.49 | jasonb | faded_: Unfortunately the Tomcat committers have not documented that yet.. and they may not. |
| 02:16.34 | faded_ | ok thanks |
| 02:17.02 | lyken | uh, |
| 02:17.33 | lyken | diff 5.0-web.xml 5.5-web.xml ? |
| 02:18.02 | faded_ | well my xml is fine under 5.5, but fails in 5.0 with parse errors |
| 02:19.13 | lyken | uh it would |
| 02:19.19 | lyken | why the hell would you downgrade? |
| 02:19.32 | lyken | its like installing windows 95 over XP |
| 02:20.00 | jasonb | lyken: Some people just want to try different versions. :) |
| 02:20.12 | lyken | lol |
| 02:20.22 | faded_ | uh. well initially I had been working in 5.5, but the systems on my network use 5.0 |
| 02:20.24 | jasonb | .. and they don't realize that's not real easy. |
| 02:20.24 | lyken | then diff it is |
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| 02:20.34 | faded_ | so that is why |
| 02:20.47 | lyken | faded_: id get them to upgrade |
| 02:20.52 | lyken | 5.5 is faster and more stable |
| 02:21.37 | faded_ | rite |
| 02:45.12 | faded_ | question.. is it possible to define another location where jar files can be stored, other than common/lib ? I ask this because I cannot write to this dir |
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| 04:57.06 | RProgrammer | ./startup.sh works, but tomcat dies, and doesn't tell me why |
| 04:58.13 | lyken | check the logs |
| 05:00.48 | RProgrammer | ok, one sec |
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| 05:06.49 | faded_ | did anyone manage to answer my earlier question? (i quit) |
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| 05:11.55 | lyken | lol |
| 05:12.28 | lyken | faded_: you can put jars in the applications web-inf/lib |
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| 06:05.28 | faded_ | thanks lyken |
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| 07:05.15 | puff | Bleah. |
| 07:06.15 | puff | jasonb: I just learned the other day about this handy tool, xmllint, had it installed on my laptop and didn't even know it. |
| 07:06.36 | jasonb | puff: It was pre-installed? What OS? |
| 07:06.54 | puff | jasonb: ubuntu. |
| 07:07.13 | jasonb | puff: What do you mostly use xmllint for? |
| 07:07.15 | puff | I'm sure it was a dependency for some other pacakage. |
| 07:07.40 | puff | jasonb: Well, the other day I was using it to verify that I was important an XML entity for my security filter config file, correctly. |
| 07:08.06 | puff | jasonb: I don't have a broken web.xml file to try it on, but I was thinking xmllint might be useful for diagnosing that sort of thing. |
| 07:08.35 | jasonb | puff: Yeah, it might. |
| 07:09.04 | puff | jasonb: In general I've found myself very much dissatisfied with most XML GUI tools I:'ve tried, not that i've tried that many. |
| 07:09.27 | jasonb | puff: To date there hasn't been much of a good command-line way of doing that.. Some of the IDEs have implemented XML file checkers of various kinds, so IDE users probably feel they don't need a command line way of doing it. |
| 07:10.00 | puff | jasonb: But, for example, xmlspy is supposed to be the cream of the crop, so when I had some error in my web.xml, and tomcat was so-helpfully giving me an error message that boile ddown to "Somewhere between the first and last character of the file", I downloaded the xmlspy eval license. |
| 07:10.29 | puff | Open up web.xml, it highlights one of the first elements as erroneous. i can't figure *waht* the fuck is wrong with it, so eventually I just delete it to see if that fixes it. |
| 07:10.39 | jasonb | Heh, yeah, Tomcat's error messages are often not helpful. |
| 07:10.39 | puff | And xmlspy then highlights the next eleemnt as reroneous. |
| 07:10.47 | puff | And xmlspy is supposed to be the cream of the crop. |
| 07:11.16 | jasonb | I haven't used xmlspy, but its name sounds a bit lame. :) |
| 07:11.18 | puff | jasonb: Most xml parsers give pretty useless error messages, includnig java's. |
| 07:11.33 | puff | jasonb: Nevertheless, it's supposed to be one of the best. I'm not impressed. |
| 07:12.06 | lyken | xmlspy was cool |
| 07:12.13 | lyken | then it got bloated and shite real quick |
| 07:12.13 | jasonb | puff: So it was your friend that was going to write the server.xml migrator, right? I guess he never did it. |
| 07:13.26 | puff | jasonb: Yeah, though he just finished a contract, so he may have time now. |
| 07:13.43 | jasonb | That would be nice. Lots of people seem to need it. |
| 07:18.23 | lyken | its all based on of the xml has a dtd though i thinks |
| 07:19.27 | puff | lyken: Hm? Sorta has to be, logically speaking. |
| 07:22.53 | vinse_work | the jedit author hangs out in ##java |
| 07:22.59 | vinse_work | jasonb: you could ask him |
| 07:23.06 | vinse_work | although i dont know that he's active anymore |
| 07:23.21 | vinse_work | with jedit i mean, he's always in the channel |
| 07:24.33 | vinse_work | (plus he's mildly insane like most of ##java) |
| 07:24.45 | vinse_work | everyone in ##java, it seems, is either doing homework |
| 07:24.50 | vinse_work | or a sociopath |
| 07:26.46 | lyken | vinse_work: same with #swing |
| 07:26.47 | lyken | heh |
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| 10:11.41 | Mattek | hello, yesterday i finally got some result and make my app work a bit |
| 10:12.30 | Mattek | but i have some problem using an abstract class to extend HttpServlet and use it to simplify all my other servlet |
| 10:13.18 | Mattek | when i try to use it tomcat just say resource unavailable...any hint? |
| 10:15.00 | Mattek | (ps if i bypass the abstract class everything works fine) |
| 10:17.45 | yel | anyone here already used CAS-Server ? |
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| 12:00.36 | goldfish | anyone here use Jakata JMeter? |
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| 12:12.08 | harpoon | greetings |
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| 13:52.56 | Mattek | ok now i got stuck! I have two identical package that differ only for the name one is mypackage and one is rubis each deployed in they're dir into WEB-INF/classes. And two web.xml quite same, only the package name differ. Now if i use mypackage it works, if i use rubis it say java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/servlet/http/HttpServlet...all this stuff is under webapps/servlets-examples. |
| 13:53.28 | Mattek | any clue about this? |
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| 14:06.03 | Fennec | Hi. I'd like to set up an IDE or something that will let me develop servlets for Tomcat. |
| 14:06.49 | Fennec | However, when I try to use the Tomcat plugin for Eclipse, it won't let me export a WAR file since I've not set up something in the project properties. But it throws an error when I go to the Tomcat part of project properties. Won't let me change a thing. |
| 14:07.22 | Fennec | I'm looking for suggestions. |
| 14:12.54 | goldfish | http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/index.html |
| 14:13.48 | goldfish | Fennec, sorry cant talk but that seems to do most of the setup stuff for me |
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| 14:19.19 | Fennec | <3 servlets. Hate getting all this mess set up! =( |
| 14:20.58 | lyken | cause when the code breaks in 3 months if you did it in perl, you wouldnt know how the code you wrote even works |
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| 14:22.56 | Fennec | nice thing about Perl... stuff it in cgi-bin/ and set it +x, it runs |
| 14:23.27 | noodl | Fennec: I rather like the servlet programming support in netbeans. Especially the beta of v5.0. |
| 14:23.48 | Fennec | will it be easy to set up something to deploy to a local installation of Tomcat? |
| 14:23.54 | Mattek | hehe if i use pippo instead of rubis for the name of package it work correctly :o) |
| 14:24.58 | noodl | Fennec: Netbeans has a bundled copy of tomcat which it stops and starts as needed. Clicking 'run' (re)deploys to it's tomcat. |
| 14:25.03 | Fennec | yay |
| 14:25.09 | noodl | It can control external tomcats too, |
| 14:25.11 | Fennec | that's even easier than WSAD. :) |
| 14:25.46 | Fennec | now, if my connection can stay alive for 48 megabytes... |
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| 14:28.51 | Fennec | nope, it hung up! :) |
| 14:29.15 | noodl | Heh. |
| 14:29.18 | noodl | wget -c |
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| 14:49.35 | Fennec | okay, I think I love NetBeans IDE now. :) |
| 14:50.11 | Fennec | looks like my problem was trying to use Eclipse. :) |
| 14:51.00 | koevet | hi guys |
| 14:51.09 | koevet | I have a very nasty problem with tomcat 5.5.12 |
| 14:51.24 | koevet | I have an app (based on AppFuse, Spring+Hibernate) |
| 14:52.29 | koevet | that shows problems when it's deployed in 5.5.12 |
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| 14:52.57 | Mattek | i need help from some guru...or maybe a mage... |
| 14:52.58 | koevet | but it's ok in 5.0.30 |
| 14:53.30 | lyken | heh |
| 14:53.45 | lyken | uh well 5.0 uses jdk 1.4 5.5 uses jdk1.5 for a starters.. |
| 14:54.07 | lyken | that might break something |
| 15:20.57 | koevet | sorry |
| 15:21.30 | koevet | i tried to deploy my application both on 5.5/jdk 1.5 and 5.5/jdk 1.4 with compatibility pack |
| 15:21.57 | koevet | the problem basically is that an exception thrown by my service layer is not catched correctly |
| 15:22.10 | koevet | if i deploy the app in 5.0/jdk 1.4 |
| 15:22.24 | koevet | the problem disappear and my Spring excpetion is correctly catched and handled |
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| 15:24.41 | koevet | one more thing: my service layer (a simple pojo) is wrapped by a Spring TransactionProxy |
| 15:24.51 | koevet | so there is some AOP magic in place |
| 15:29.35 | koevet | any thought? |
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| 16:25.38 | Mattek | ahem, i've founded that sometimes tomcat preserve a class file into cache so change don't take effect even if you restart tomcat itself. Is there a way to clean surely this cache? |
| 16:26.10 | Mattek | (ps using tomcat 5.5) |
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| 16:56.09 | vito_ | on a reload tomcat dumbs the webapp classloader, so changes certainly will take effect on a webapp reload |
| 16:56.53 | vito_ | this is also the reason tomcat runs out of memory after several reloads... classes and in the perm. generation, and never get garbage collected |
| 17:04.37 | jasonb | vito_: Why wouldn't they be garbage collected if they're dereferenced? |
| 17:08.11 | vito_ | classes are stored in the permanent generation, which is never scanned or collected |
| 17:09.33 | jasonb | vito_: So this means that no class loading scheme can ever be used without it leaking memory until the JVM is out of memory? |
| 17:10.08 | jasonb | vito_: I'm pretty sure that other Java applications are able to reload classes, and not leak memory. |
| 17:10.20 | vito_ | there are some switches in the VMs that are "suppose" to allow this... but they don't seem to work.. |
| 17:10.28 | vito_ | -XX:+CMSPermGenSweepingEnabled -XX:+CMSClassUnloadingEnabled |
| 17:10.44 | vito_ | nope, not a one |
| 17:10.47 | jasonb | Sounds like a Sun JVM implementation problem then. |
| 17:11.11 | jasonb | (not a Java language problem, and hence not a Tomcat problem) |
| 17:12.56 | vito_ | oh you're right... the reasons for the implementation are security based |
| 17:13.34 | jasonb | Hmm. |
| 17:14.08 | vito_ | ooo, I just check the main bug |
| 17:14.15 | vito_ | http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5033614 |
| 17:14.16 | jasonb | I often wonder if other JVM implementations have similar problems. Like, does IBM's JVM have that problem? How bout BEA JRockit? Excelsior Jet? |
| 17:14.21 | vito_ | supposedly fixed in 5.0 update 1 |
| 17:14.28 | jasonb | ahh. |
| 17:15.55 | jasonb | vito_: That's a nice bug link. Thanks! |
| 17:17.00 | vito_ | also the one referenced at the bottom is good too |
| 17:17.02 | vito_ | http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4957990 |
| 17:18.21 | jasonb | Nice. Yeah, I'm glad that many of the bugs they log have good detail. |
| 17:18.35 | vito_ | obviously it hasn't been completely fixed |
| 17:19.42 | jasonb | Sometimes it takes a few releases. :) |
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| 17:22.53 | guituser46 | hi all! is possible to load a valve from web-inf/classes? I've problems with this... ClassnontfoundException.. |
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| 17:36.49 | jasonb | lelex: That's not where you're supposed to place the valve class file. It's supposed to go in server/lib/. |
| 17:40.10 | lelex | many thanks. Of course, putting the valve in server/lib is ok... but this mean that I've to "own" the server. |
| 17:42.05 | lelex | what if I can only put a war file in a directory, not being the server admin?.. |
| 17:45.36 | jasonb | lelex: It's not supposed to work that way. Valves are for the server admin to install/configure/run. Filters are for the webapp authors/owners/operators to install/configure/run. |
| 17:46.14 | lelex | ok.. go for filter... :)) |
| 17:46.21 | jasonb | lelex: Valves and Filters are quite a lot alike. But, Valves are Tomcat-specific, and Filters are general to the Java Servlet Specification. |
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| 18:22.21 | yel | re |
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| 19:19.58 | FreemaniaX | sso works with jaas realm, right? |
| 19:28.09 | jasonb | I do not know. I would actually be surprised if it worked right like that. JAASRealm has always been a trouble maker. |
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| 19:49.50 | randrew | Mattek: class files generated from jsps are in tomcat's "work" directory. |
| 19:50.54 | randrew | hibernate docs say "Never ever copy anything in Tomcat into a global directory outside of your web application or you are in classloader hell!" |
| 19:51.06 | randrew | does anyone disagree? |
| 19:51.47 | randrew | interesting change: http://www.hibernate.org/114.html?cmd=comphist&histnode=896 |
| 19:53.35 | jasonb | randrew: I'm not sure what they mean. Anything? Like a class? What kind of class? One that is part of Tomcat itself? One that is part of a webapp? Yes, Tomcat has a very particular classloading hierarchy / organization. If you then jumble it all into one classloader, you're in for some trouble. But, I'm not sure why this would sound strange. |
| 19:55.59 | randrew | I'm sure they're talking about all the hibernate libs. pool, jdbc-driver, etc... |
| 19:56.02 | vinse_work | hmm |
| 19:56.05 | jasonb | Welp, I think my comment/questions above still applies to that. |
| 19:57.31 | jasonb | Besides, JDO is probably the best solution for db access from Java now anyway. |
| 19:58.05 | puff | apache 2.1 is _still_ in beta? Hm. |
| 19:58.20 | jasonb | puff: Yes. But they've been working on it a loooooong time. |
| 19:58.52 | vinse_work | i'm starting to really hate O/R mapping tools |
| 19:59.12 | jasonb | There are certainly predictable problems with them. |
| 19:59.16 | vinse_work | i guess they're ok for automating the creation of your persistent beans |
| 19:59.36 | vinse_work | well i always have to work around them for *something* |
| 19:59.56 | vinse_work | so i still need some infrastructure for dealing with jdbc directly |
| 20:00.02 | vinse_work | so then it's like |
| 20:00.15 | vinse_work | what's my O/R stuff there for? |
| 20:00.22 | puff | vinse_work: Me too. |
| 20:00.39 | jasonb | vinse_work: For the usual case where you don't need to do hard-coded SQL. |
| 20:01.11 | vinse_work | i'd gotten pretty used to dealing with hard-coded sql ;) |
| 20:01.35 | jasonb | vinse_work: Yes, there will be times when you need to hard code some SQL to get around some problem.. but that should be the exception (by far), and not the rule. If it becomes the rule, that's when you know you have the wrong O/R mapping tool. |
| 20:02.33 | vinse_work | i suppose' |
| 20:02.57 | vinse_work | there just seems something really lame to me about things like "criteria.addAndCriteria(.." |
| 20:02.59 | jasonb | Also, it's true that not every project should use O/R mapping. |
| 20:03.13 | vinse_work | like what exactly is that saving you from? |
| 20:04.01 | puff | vinse_work: IBATIS looks interesting, it seems to fit my philosophy, at least from waht i've heard. |
| 20:04.54 | puff | vinse_work: I've generally come up with a homebrew OR layer, really not an OR layer at all I guess, but it is very convenient for many cases, and doesn't get in my way otherwise. |
| 20:05.50 | puff | vinse_work: I developed it for this startup; I was going to release it as open source, but things never really got to a state where I felt comfortable doing that, and now the situation in general there has gotten too political for me to want to deal with the isses. |
| 20:06.05 | jasonb | puff: iBATIS looks a lot like JDO without the spec. :) |
| 20:06.08 | puff | vinse_work: So I: might do a ssecond take on it, from scratch, and release that as open source. |
| 20:06.11 | puff | jasonb: Oh? |
| 20:07.56 | puff | Well, my homebrew system and philosophy basically work line this; I have a very simple XMl file that drives a code generator. The code generator creates a) an SQL schema file, |
| 20:07.58 | puff | b) a bunch of really vanilla databeans, basically instance vars and getter/setters, and the setter flips a dirty flag for the instance variable, so you can tell when it was overwritten, |
| 20:08.13 | puff | c) a set of DB mapper classes. |
| 20:08.57 | puff | The DB mappers have a) a resultset-to-bean mapper method that takes a bean and a resultset and b) CRUD methods that take a bean and return a bean or a list of beans. |
| 20:08.59 | jasonb | puff: You really should read about JPOX. http://jpox.org |
| 20:09.41 | puff | jasonb: I should. note that I wrote all this stuff 3 years ago :-). |
| 20:09.46 | puff | Still using it, with occasional upgrades. |
| 20:10.25 | jasonb | puff: Your ideas for this are much like JDO.. only the JDO folks thought of more stuff that you probably didn't think of yet, or things they added that you haven't needed. |
| 20:10.58 | jasonb | puff: And, JPOX is an implementation of the latest in JDO.. the upcoming JDO 2.0 spec. |
| 20:11.05 | puff | Anyway, the general idea is that really simple crap, look up a single row by very simple criteria, save a single row, insert a single row, delete a single row, you just instantiate a bean, call setters for the criteria, and pass it to the mapper method. |
| 20:11.32 | puff | For complicate stuff, roll your own query, and use the dbmapper resultset-to-bean method for the output. |
| 20:11.59 | puff | jasonb: I read up on JDO waybackwhen, but I hear it's gotten a lot better lately. |
| 20:12.20 | jasonb | puff: It looks like it's matured quite a bit in the last year. |
| 20:12.29 | puff | Much of my homebrew system can be discarded, with the new specs. For example, JDBC 3.0 has detachable rowsets. |
| 20:12.48 | puff | On the other hand, I like the type-safety and simplicity of having databeans, so. |
| 20:13.18 | puff | I am _definitely_ not interested in having to maintain this code, however, I'd much rather use JDO if it's matured enough. |
| 20:13.48 | puff | Or anybody else's code, really, as long as it's stable, and doesn't require too much koolaid. |
| 20:14.15 | puff | A lot of tools - hibernate, for one, from my brief expereince with it - try too hard for orthodoxy, and as a result they're more pain than they're worth. |
| 20:16.09 | jasonb | puff: Try JPOX 1.1. It seems relatively easy. It's still maturing, but it is useable. |
| 20:16.35 | jasonb | puff: And, it doesn't look as though they forgot anything critical. |
| 20:16.41 | jasonb | puff: .. which is important. |
| 20:17.04 | jasonb | puff: Also, so far I'm quite impressed with the design, overall. |
| 20:46.08 | puff | jasonb: I may well give this a shot for a private project, try it out. |
| 20:46.42 | puff | jasonb: Just heard from my xslt-eating friend, we're going to get together tonight and take a quick first hack at the converter. |
| 20:46.57 | jasonb | puff: You should probably just tinker with it first.. but sometimes the real usefulness of one of these isn't apparent until you have about 40 Java classes using it. :) |
| 20:47.05 | puff | Since I know tomcat better than he does... probably sometime between 7pm-11pm, EST. |
| 20:47.07 | jasonb | puff: Cool. |
| 20:47.31 | jasonb | puff: I'll be online during at least part of that. |
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| 20:59.11 | puff | jasonb: Heh... just got the email verison of the latest JDJ, and for some reason I actually looked at it this time. Jason Bell has a fun rant about the current "oh my god" buzzwords, Ajax and Ruby On Rails. |
| 21:00.03 | jasonb | heh |
| 21:00.16 | jasonb | Wow, I haven't read one of those in at least a couple of years now. |
| 21:00.42 | jasonb | I used to read it just to see how lame some Java developers could be. :) |
| 21:01.02 | jasonb | Entertaining. |
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| 21:02.20 | puff | And a slightly less fun rant about sun confusing people iwth their "Java Desktop" initiative. |
| 21:02.42 | puff | jasonb: I'm not exactly eagerly awaiting each issue :-). |
| 21:03.14 | puff | jasonb: I miss the days when being on the net was actually useful in terms of technolog news. Sigh. |
| 21:03.25 | puff | Nowadays, there's so much garbage. |
| 21:03.51 | incorrect | hi, im confused about the AJP config, what does redirectPort="8443" do? |
| 21:03.54 | puff | jasonb: That's the point of that rant :-). it's written by JDJ's "Desktep Java Editor", who's annoyed because he keeps getting press releases about Java Desktop. |
| 21:05.08 | jasonb | incorrect: In case a request comes in that is mapped as having a security constraint that would require HTTPS, the request will be automatically redirected by Tomcat to the HTTPS port. |
| 21:05.48 | jasonb | incorrect: It doesn't have much to do with AJP itself, but has more to do with how requests are generally handled by the servlet container. |
| 21:05.51 | incorrect | i remember the days when the net was mostly either p0rn, updates for device drivers or source code |
| 21:06.32 | incorrect | i remember fidonet |
| 21:06.42 | puff | incorrect: I remember the days when there was no porn on the net. |
| 21:06.57 | puff | trash 80s, those were the days. |
| 21:07.01 | jasonb | heh |
| 21:07.02 | puff | My brother still has a sinclair somewhere. |
| 21:07.13 | incorrect | i have a BBC micro up in the loft |
| 21:07.16 | puff | /me's first modem was 300 baud :-). |
| 21:07.24 | puff | /me's first modem was 300 baud :-). |
| 21:07.34 | jasonb | mine too. Mighty Mo 300 baud modem for C=64. :) |
| 21:08.00 | jasonb | It was a cartridge that you plugged onto the back of the C=64. |
| 21:08.12 | jasonb | That ruled. Heh. |
| 21:08.17 | incorrect | i miss my youth :) |
| 21:09.44 | vinse_work | i have a compaq luggable somewhere |
| 21:09.52 | vinse_work | it was portable in that it had a handle |
| 21:09.59 | incorrect | lol |
| 21:10.05 | jasonb | wow.. those are rare now. |
| 21:10.22 | puff | vinse_work: I think my bro got rid of his apple luggable. |
| 21:10.42 | puff | vinse_work: That was fun, had a tiny little amber CRT built into it. |
| 21:10.54 | vinse_work | yeah |
| 21:11.04 | puff | vinse_work: The keyboard bolted onto the end, over the screen and drives. |
| 21:11.07 | puff | for transport. |
| 21:11.08 | vinse_work | mine was their first model with a built in hard drive i think |
| 21:11.15 | vinse_work | puff: right, same with mine |
| 21:11.21 | incorrect | i spent last new year in the mansion of someone key to bluetooth, sad thing is, i no longer it, whatever it was |
| 21:11.29 | incorrect | get it even |
| 21:11.30 | incorrect | doh |
| 21:11.35 | vinse_work | i remember i had to type "bye bye" to park the drive when i turned it off |
| 21:12.10 | jasonb | Heh! Parking hard drive heads!! |
| 21:12.26 | jasonb | I totally forgot about that. |
| 21:13.09 | jasonb | Kinda reminds me of hd space doublers and RAM doublers. :) |
| 21:18.36 | puff | jasonb: God, what a stupid idea. |
| 21:25.58 | puff | Okay, i'm really idling for coffee now. Back in a little while. |
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| 22:31.45 | bdudney | anybody online know of a good example of creating an embedded tomcat (5.0 & 5.5) server? |
| 22:32.20 | yel | hi everyone i have a problem with generating a certs when i : ./keytool -import -file server.crt -keypass password -keystore /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/jre/lib/security/cacerts i gets keytool error: java.io.IOException: Keystore was tampered with, or password was incorrect even that im sure the password is okay |
| 22:53.35 | yel | jasonb: are you there ? |
| 22:54.09 | yel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:41.45 | jasonb | yel: Did you read the free Chapter 6 from Tomcat: The Definitive Guide about it? |
| 23:42.05 | yel | :( you surly think i dont |
| 23:42.50 | CoyoTe[Show-TV] | www.cigicigi.net/forum Turkish Hacking Area!!!! WwW.Cigicigi.CoM By CoyoTe |
| 23:42.53 | CoyoTe[Show-TV] | www.cigicigi.net/forum Turkish Hacking Area!!!! WwW.Cigicigi.CoM By CoyoTe |
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| 23:42.59 | jasonb | Nice. |
| 23:43.59 | yel | jasonb: its juts that i still have strange behaviours or my understanding is not yet that good |
| 23:44.12 | jasonb | yel: The latter. |
| 23:44.14 | yel | ack jasonb |
| 23:44.41 | jasonb | I was referring to the CoyoTe d0rk. |
| 23:45.49 | jasonb | Well, anyone can get registered, even spammers.. so I wonder how it's possible to stop people from doing that. |
| 23:46.33 | yel | and even users gets a kind of scores wich mean a kind of statistics wich shows how much time each user connects and how much times he spent in each channel and using such data we can restrict such thing a bit dow |
| 23:47.51 | jasonb | yel: That's not such a bad idea. |
| 23:48.44 | yel | i mean the more data we have the higt our chance will get bigger to make clear difference between bots and humains and so ... |
| 23:49.48 | yel | or a challenge question at connection time :D answer or you will be banner for life :) |
| 23:51.17 | yel | jasonb: i dont want to bother your time do you have any idea why my connectors does not starts ? |
| 23:53.17 | yel | SEVERE: Null component Catalina:type=protocolHandler,className=null does this say something about the problem ? |
| 23:54.14 | jasonb | yel: Is it an HTTP or HTTPS or JK connector? |
| 23:54.24 | yel | https |
| 23:54.46 | jasonb | yel: And did you exactly follow the steps on how to set it up in Chapter 6, Tomcat Security? |
| 23:55.06 | yel | i did this : http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.0-doc/ssl-howto.html |
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| 23:57.16 | jasonb | Welcome back. :) |
| 23:57.25 | yel | :) |
| 23:57.42 | yel | that what pastbine is made for :) |
| 23:58.02 | jasonb | Did you generate a CSR or a self-signed cert? |
| 23:58.15 | yel | ja habe ich |
| 23:58.22 | yel | oups i mean yes i did |
| 23:58.38 | vinse_work | heh |
| 23:58.49 | vinse_work | which one? |