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| 00:16.18 | JavaGeek | *sigh* |
| 00:17.57 | jasonb | JavaGeek: Something wrong? |
| 00:19.15 | JavaGeek | jasonb: yeah, I figured out I really don't know servlet programming |
| 00:19.33 | JavaGeek | I've been contaminated by web 'frameworks' |
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| 00:25.59 | bcc | hi guys, does anyone know what might cause "java.io.IOException: Stream closed" in bodyContent.writeOut()? |
| 00:26.13 | bcc | i seem to get those randomly |
| 00:26.28 | jasonb | JavaGeek: That can happen. The good news is that you can always learn the basics. Just dig into it. |
| 00:26.55 | jasonb | bcc: The client closes their side of the HTTP socket connection. Don't worry about it. |
| 00:27.04 | bcc | nope, that's not it |
| 00:27.13 | bcc | i think it's the other one |
| 00:27.33 | jasonb | Well then use a paste server to paste us the entire stack trace & error message. |
| 00:27.53 | bcc | ok, there is not flood protection on this channel? |
| 00:28.09 | bcc | just the top |
| 00:28.10 | bcc | java.io.IOException: Stream closed |
| 00:28.10 | bcc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.10 | bcc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.10 | bcc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.10 | bcc | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.08 | bcc | this is the only thing i found |
| 00:29.09 | bcc | http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/browse_thread/thread/45c52f67cf960858/f676c99530f352b2?lnk=st&q=bodycontentimpl+%22stream+closed%22&rnum=2&hl=en#f676c99530f352b2 |
| 00:29.34 | bcc | the guy there says it's not the "client dropped the connection" case |
| 00:31.29 | bcc | any ideas? |
| 00:36.00 | jasonb | Which exact version of Tomcat? Which OS & OS version? Which Java brand & version? |
| 00:37.09 | LaidBack_01 | hey jasonb hows it going? see you are doing some more helping of people and such ;) |
| 00:37.53 | jasonb | LaidBack_01: I sure am. How's it going? |
| 00:38.48 | bcc | linux kernel 2.4.21-27, tomcat 5.5.9, jdk build 1.5.0_04-b05 |
| 00:43.26 | bcc | can this cause a problem? |
| 00:43.43 | bcc | in doEndTag I got bodyContent.writeOut(bodyContent.getEnclosingWriter()); and bodyContent.clearBody(); |
| 00:44.15 | bcc | i mean, th exception occurs in the call to writeOut |
| 00:46.35 | jasonb | bcc: I doubt that you've done something wrong. I still think it's the client closing the connection while Tomcat's trying to write the bytes out to it. |
| 00:47.53 | bcc | is there a way to find out for sure? |
| 00:48.05 | bcc | i guess i could create a tag that sleeps for a while and the hit it myself |
| 00:49.43 | jasonb | bcc: The way to find out for sure is to read the 5.5.9 source and find out what org.apache.jasper.runtime.JspWriterImpl.ensureOpen() does. :) |
| 00:50.15 | jasonb | bcc: But, I'm pretty sure I'm right that it's meant to determine whether the client closed the connection, and if so, throw that IOException. |
| 00:51.51 | bcc | well, out of about 8k visitors today, i got 90 such errors. do they all hit stop? |
| 00:51.53 | bcc | that's really weird |
| 00:52.03 | bcc | it's not just one or two |
| 00:52.23 | bcc | oh yeah, it just started happening. i installed the new tomcat. |
| 00:52.42 | bcc | but i'm going to write a sleeping tag to see if i can produce the same error |
| 00:52.46 | LaidBack_01 | jasonb, going well, I'm really gettting much happier with Tomcat. It's quite usable as a complete replacement for apache for what we are doing. |
| 00:53.06 | LaidBack_01 | we've already replaced all our cgi scripts with javascripts and they perform as well as or better than before. |
| 00:53.12 | LaidBack_01 | so things are going quite well ;) |
| 00:55.04 | bcc | nope, that's not it |
| 00:55.07 | jasonb | LaidBack_01: Replacing cgi is usually a good thing.. but, JSYK, Tomcat comes with a CGIServlet that works well. |
| 00:56.44 | jasonb | LaidBack_01: I'm glad you were able to replace Apache, and I'm glad you're happy with Tomcat. A lot of work went into it.. just as a lot of work went into Apache. But, Tomcat is binary portable to different platforms -- the exact same files can be copied over and it will run (not the JDK, of course). |
| 00:56.59 | jasonb | LaidBack_01: And, IMHO Tomcat is more secure. |
| 00:57.12 | jasonb | LaidBack_01: Or, at least it can be. |
| 00:57.36 | jasonb | LaidBack_01: Which version of Tomcat are you using? |
| 01:02.13 | LaidBack_01 | 5.5.11 now |
| 01:02.38 | LaidBack_01 | yeah, you went thru quite a lot with me on how to set things up etc. |
| 01:04.22 | bcc | should the body tags call bodyContent.writeOut(bodyContent.getEnclosingWriter()); in doEndTag or does the BodyTagSupport's imlemetation do that? |
| 01:06.15 | jasonb | 5.5.11 should be a good version. 5.5.12 will be better because they've fixed more bugs, but it's not "out" yet. |
| 01:06.34 | jasonb | bcc: I'm not sure about that one. |
| 01:07.05 | bcc | neither am i |
| 01:07.21 | bcc | i haven't done much programming in a few years |
| 01:07.35 | jasonb | Try leaving it out and see what happens. |
| 01:07.40 | bcc | this tag worked fine for a very long time, and not i don't know if it was coded correctly in the first place |
| 01:08.20 | bcc | i tried calling super.doEndTag() in the doEndTag() |
| 01:08.34 | bcc | but it does not print the body then |
| 01:08.57 | bcc | i just don't see anything between inside the tags |
| 01:09.01 | bcc | so i guess it's needed |
| 01:14.12 | jasonb | Welp, I'm heading home.. |
| 01:14.27 | jasonb | Cheers. |
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| 01:17.31 | MyQuiL | Hi, we have a bit of a weird situation. We're trying to deploy a .war on machine, and when we run it, it can't open the ...Login.txt file for the DB... yet if we deploy on a different machine, it works perfectly doing it the exact same way. |
| 01:18.04 | MyQuiL | On the machine where we have the problem, we can get an error in catalina.out that says it can't find ../ourfile_Login.txt |
| 01:18.19 | MyQuiL | ... and we have no idea what directory that's relative to. |
| 01:18.25 | MyQuiL | any advice? |
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| 03:49.57 | lyken | MyQuiL: still here? |
| 03:50.08 | MyQuiL | yeah |
| 03:50.09 | lyken | tomcat sometimes does that if the permissions are wrong |
| 03:50.13 | lyken | assuming its one a linux box |
| 03:50.17 | lyken | otheerwise i have no idea |
| 03:50.27 | MyQuiL | works on Sun 5.10, not on 5.9 |
| 03:50.32 | MyQuiL | but AFAIK the perms are the same |
| 03:50.35 | lyken | i had this problem just monday with stale nfs handlers |
| 03:50.43 | MyQuiL | we discovered that it's looking for the file in /export/home |
| 03:50.49 | lyken | hmm |
| 03:50.52 | MyQuiL | which is .. too far |
| 03:51.04 | lyken | just /export ? |
| 03:51.23 | lyken | why is there a login.txt file int eh first place? :) |
| 03:51.33 | MyQuiL | no no, /export/home as opposed to /export/home/tomcat (and then jakarta/) |
| 03:51.40 | lyken | arh yes |
| 03:51.49 | lyken | hmm that is werid |
| 03:51.51 | MyQuiL | heh - you act as if I know anything 'bout this stuff, I'm just a unix guy :) |
| 03:52.05 | lyken | arh heh |
| 03:52.11 | lyken | well my response might be a little slow |
| 03:52.16 | lyken | cause my network is hosed here at work |
| 03:52.17 | MyQuiL | some how if the developers have a problem it's up to me to fix it. That said - it works perfectly on my 5.10 machine. |
| 03:52.20 | lyken | but ill try and help |
| 03:53.03 | MyQuiL | well, I'm not at that client's now, if one of the devs perks up, I'll flag you down, but we're rather mystified why it's looking in the wrong place |
| 03:53.44 | lyken | so you have tomcat running in /export/home/jakarta-tomcat-5.5.9/webapps/appname |
| 03:53.45 | lyken | or something |
| 03:54.04 | lyken | what user is running tomcat? |
| 03:56.31 | MyQuiL | not quite |
| 03:56.33 | MyQuiL | user tomcat |
| 03:56.40 | lyken | oks |
| 03:56.48 | MyQuiL | in /export/home/tomcat/jakarta-blahblah/ |
| 03:57.04 | lyken | its kinda hard without knowing if the application is doing anything funky |
| 03:57.20 | lyken | but its same tomcat version on both 5.9 and 5.10 ? |
| 03:57.27 | lyken | same jvm? |
| 03:57.48 | MyQuiL | I dunno, don't have access to the machine right now |
| 03:58.02 | lyken | oks |
| 03:58.09 | MyQuiL | (it's already a VPN then 2 ssh tunnels to get to the app server when I'm at the office) |
| 03:58.33 | lyken | if it deploys on yours and not theirs, id assume a difference in setups.. |
| 03:58.38 | lyken | lol sounds like me :) |
| 03:58.50 | MyQuiL | there are version differences, but they're like 0.0.2a sort of thing |
| 03:59.00 | MyQuiL | that and the 5.9 vs. 5.10 |
| 03:59.02 | lyken | you'd be suprised :) |
| 03:59.10 | MyQuiL | but I don't see why that'd cause such a massive difference in pathes |
| 03:59.23 | lyken | the paths thing is interesting.. |
| 03:59.30 | lyken | i only get that when it cant find the file |
| 03:59.37 | MyQuiL | you're right, I am surprised, considering how few wrinkles there were going from Windows/MSSQL to Solaris/Oracle for this app |
| 03:59.55 | lyken | heh |
| 04:00.12 | lyken | well there isnt too much difference for java for windows/solaris |
| 04:00.18 | lyken | and not much difference mssql to oracle |
| 04:00.21 | lyken | they are both ok db servers |
| 04:00.27 | lyken | mysql to oracle would have been painful :) |
| 04:00.28 | MyQuiL | so there shouldn't be much difference from solaris/solaris :P |
| 04:00.34 | lyken | heh |
| 04:00.36 | MyQuiL | and MSSQL and Oracle are pretty different |
| 04:00.41 | MyQuiL | and MySQL is just junk :) |
| 04:00.47 | lyken | heh |
| 04:00.48 | MyQuiL | "MySuQL" |
| 04:00.56 | lyken | mssql is more standards compliant then myPoS |
| 04:01.04 | lyken | i like to say |
| 04:01.11 | MyQuiL | Postgres. Thank you very much. |
| 04:01.13 | lyken | from the mysql from page |
| 04:01.26 | lyken | they have a thig 'welcome to mysql the worlds fastest open source database' |
| 04:01.30 | lyken | and i have changed that |
| 04:01.46 | lyken | 'welcome to mysql, the worlds fastest network enabled spreadsheet' |
| 04:01.59 | MyQuiL | my thoughts exactly. |
| 04:02.33 | lyken | and i teach it at university :) |
| 04:02.47 | lyken | now back to your problem :) |
| 04:03.08 | MyQuiL | funny, my client is a univ prof and I teach him his course material... |
| 04:03.18 | lyken | lol |
| 04:03.39 | lyken | i teach the java/db stuff as a part of a project based course |
| 04:03.48 | lyken | i co-lecture with the theory guy |
| 04:04.01 | lyken | im actually just a postgrad student with some spare time :) |
| 04:05.32 | lyken | i wonder if tomcat on the 5.9 host is runnign with some funky java_home or something.. |
| 04:06.23 | MyQuiL | Actually, it might be, I'm at a loss as to which Java to download and use |
| 04:06.33 | MyQuiL | one person tells me JRE, another tells me J2SE |
| 04:06.44 | MyQuiL | but when I go to the downloads page, I get confused. |
| 04:08.07 | MyQuiL | doh. |
| 04:08.09 | lyken | lemme check my solaris 5.9 box |
| 04:08.11 | MyQuiL | one of them perked up. |
| 04:08.25 | lyken | and then ran away? |
| 04:09.16 | MyQuiL | I'm telling him how to do 'echo $CATALINA_HOME' |
| 04:09.24 | lyken | oh my.. |
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| 04:09.35 | lyken | damn |
| 04:09.39 | lyken | the solaris box is 5.8 |
| 04:10.03 | MyQuiL | heh |
| 04:10.59 | lyken | well my fedora box is running jdk1.5.0 |
| 04:11.05 | lyken | the solaris bos is running j2se |
| 04:11.55 | jasonb | You should really use the latest Java version whenever possible. |
| 04:12.08 | ^cool^tom^ | We seem to be having a funny problem. We have a Hibernate Spring Struts application which works on a MySQL database. Sometimes the application refuses to delete a record. However if I deploy the war and the exact snapshot of the database on another machine it works fine. Any idea where the problem could be? |
| 04:12.37 | jasonb | heh |
| 04:12.38 | lyken | ive not worked enough with struts to be helpful tom, soory |
| 04:12.45 | lyken | yay jason can fix it |
| 04:12.54 | lyken | he fixes everything |
| 04:13.00 | lyken | i can help you install and log stuff :) |
| 04:13.24 | ^cool^tom^ | I have a fairly good understanding of struts. |
| 04:13.26 | jasonb | Yeah, the problem is somewhere inside the huge pile of technologies you built on top of, or in your webapp, or both. :) That ought to narrow it down. :) |
| 04:13.52 | lyken | LOL |
| 04:14.01 | ^cool^tom^ | Cool. |
| 04:14.11 | ^cool^tom^ | Just trying to narrow it down a little more. |
| 04:14.47 | jasonb | Sorry, but that question sounded much like "when you're driving down the street in your convertable banana peel, and all the wheels fall off, how long does it take to paint a picket fence with oatmeal?" |
| 04:15.06 | lyken | ROFL |
| 04:15.14 | lyken | hmm |
| 04:15.28 | lyken | one of our solaris boxes has a staff member running 168 instances of java |
| 04:15.31 | MyQuiL | My hovercraft is full of eels :( |
| 04:16.27 | lyken | you have a hovercraft? |
| 04:16.28 | lyken | cool |
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| 04:39.28 | bvacha | hello? |
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| 04:40.20 | lyken | echo |
| 04:40.25 | bandito | howdy all, i'm getting java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException: String index out of range: -2 when i try to use cgiservlet with cgipathprefix of /, any ideas? |
| 04:42.56 | bandito | nvm, replaced with . and it works |
| 04:43.16 | vinse | bye |
| 04:44.18 | jasonb | heh |
| 04:44.49 | lyken | lol |
| 04:52.08 | bvacha | hi all. I'm a newbie with tomcat...I was using resin on port 80, and I can connect to the web server just fine over the internet. But, when I switch to tomcat on port 80 (I verified that tomcat is on port 80 using localhost), I cannot connect. Would anyone mind trying to give me a hand for a few minutes to help me figure out what I'm doing wrong? |
| 04:52.50 | MyQuiL | localhost doesn't answer outside of your computer |
| 04:52.54 | MyQuiL | or listen. |
| 04:55.23 | lyken | dont run tomcat on port 80 |
| 04:55.42 | lyken | unless you are running it at root |
| 04:55.49 | bvacha | lyken, why not? |
| 04:56.25 | lyken | do you have a httpd you're running? |
| 04:56.28 | lyken | or just tomcat? |
| 04:56.37 | bvacha | I just have tomcat |
| 04:56.46 | lyken | oks |
| 04:56.54 | lyken | are you running tomcat as root? |
| 04:56.56 | lyken | or another user? |
| 04:57.06 | lyken | one step back, what os? :) |
| 04:57.11 | bvacha | I'm on XP, and running as admin |
| 04:57.16 | MyQuiL | 'administrator' ;) |
| 04:57.17 | MyQuiL | doh. |
| 04:57.21 | jasonb | heh! |
| 04:57.22 | bvacha | (later I'll run on linux) |
| 04:57.22 | MyQuiL | Reality bytes. |
| 04:57.49 | lyken | um |
| 04:57.52 | lyken | windows, cant help |
| 04:57.53 | lyken | sorry |
| 04:58.00 | bvacha | no prob |
| 04:58.04 | jasonb | bvacha: Port 80 should work fine. |
| 04:58.09 | lyken | but it should work |
| 04:58.18 | lyken | we runing port 80 in the labs on tomcat and it works fine |
| 04:58.36 | bvacha | yeah, port 80 works fine on my local machine, but as soon as I try to go through the internet to 80, I cannot connect. |
| 04:58.52 | lyken | what ip are you using ? |
| 04:58.56 | lyken | do you have a firewall? |
| 04:59.00 | lyken | if its XP id assume its being lame |
| 04:59.01 | bvacha | I feel that my firewall settings on XP and my router are correct, because I can connect to Resin over that port over the internet |
| 04:59.01 | MyQuiL | right, it's not listening on the outside facing interface |
| 04:59.03 | lyken | and blocking it |
| 04:59.34 | jasonb | bvacha: You have to use address="a.b.c.d" on the <Connector> element in server.xml.. where a.b.c.d is the IP address that the machine is externally accessable over. |
| 04:59.47 | lyken | oh |
| 04:59.49 | lyken | tomcat nat stuff |
| 04:59.54 | lyken | i didnt know about that :) |
| 05:00.02 | lyken | but makes sense :) |
| 05:00.09 | jasonb | That just tells Tomcat to open its server socket listening on that address. |
| 05:00.35 | bvacha | ok, so the IP address for the Connector may be the 192.168.1.1 of the router then? |
| 05:01.04 | MyQuiL | no |
| 05:01.14 | jasonb | bvacha: Whatever IP addresses are configured on the Tomcat machine's ethernet interface(s) to be externally routeable. |
| 05:01.21 | MyQuiL | the IP of the interface that connects to the rest of the networ |
| 05:02.17 | bvacha | Sorry, I don't understand. |
| 05:02.29 | lyken | bvacha: go to http://showmyip.com |
| 05:02.32 | lyken | that is the ip you want to use |
| 05:02.41 | MyQuiL | no it's not. |
| 05:02.47 | lyken | hehe |
| 05:02.47 | MyQuiL | *mutter* |
| 05:02.49 | lyken | i like to confure :) |
| 05:02.51 | lyken | confuse :) |
| 05:02.53 | MyQuiL | ipconfig /all |
| 05:02.59 | MyQuiL | (don't paste that here) |
| 05:02.59 | lyken | ipconfig /all it :) |
| 05:03.10 | MyQuiL | look for an IP address that isn't 127.0.0.1 |
| 05:03.18 | MyQuiL | maybe it's a 192.168... |
| 05:03.26 | lyken | 10.10! |
| 05:03.53 | MyQuiL | lyken: I've got about 4 /24's, 2 /28's and a /29 allocated to my LAN |
| 05:04.01 | lyken | hahaha |
| 05:04.03 | lyken | at home? |
| 05:04.04 | MyQuiL | about 5 of those are routable too |
| 05:04.05 | bvacha | ok, so I'm looking for the ip address of my tomcat's computer as it's seen on the local network? |
| 05:04.05 | MyQuiL | yeah. |
| 05:04.09 | MyQuiL | I'm an ISP :) |
| 05:04.21 | MyQuiL | bvacha: err, yes. We'll go with that. |
| 05:04.24 | lyken | im not an isp and we have 4 vlans |
| 05:04.33 | bvacha | I'll give that a shot |
| 05:04.45 | MyQuiL | heh - I don't run the ISP from home, just monitoring, staging and me-age. |
| 05:04.51 | lyken | bvacha: IP Adress . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.20 is mine for instance |
| 05:05.09 | lyken | MyQuiL: we have different vlans for traffic monitoring internally |
| 05:05.09 | MyQuiL | What? no IPv6? buncha pansies ;) |
| 05:05.23 | lyken | wireless, game consoles, servers, workstations, laptops |
| 05:05.33 | MyQuiL | lyken: consider using netflows? vlans are nice and all, but netflow can likely accomplish the same. |
| 05:05.45 | lyken | MyQuiL: meh, our rack switches deal with all that |
| 05:06.04 | lyken | my housemate does all the network |
| 05:06.10 | lyken | i don server infrastructure |
| 05:06.15 | MyQuiL | aye. |
| 05:06.25 | lyken | gbit between servers |
| 05:06.35 | lyken | 100mbit to all machines, 54mbit wireless |
| 05:06.41 | jasonb | nice. |
| 05:06.42 | lyken | and 12mbit/1mbit wan connection |
| 05:06.56 | lyken | for our house :) |
| 05:07.11 | lyken | and we arent an ISP |
| 05:07.14 | lyken | we are geeks :) |
| 05:07.15 | jasonb | Wow. |
| 05:07.33 | lyken | jasonb: yer all my puters are in a half rack in the computer room |
| 05:07.48 | MyQuiL | I have limited use for GigE |
| 05:07.55 | MyQuiL | all I care is that my HDDs are fast |
| 05:08.04 | lyken | MyQuiL: i capture DV over the network at my house :) |
| 05:08.10 | lyken | with no frame loss |
| 05:08.24 | MyQuiL | meh. |
| 05:08.31 | MyQuiL | my oggs play fast enough at 3Mbit |
| 05:08.35 | lyken | lol |
| 05:08.44 | MyQuiL | 'course, NFS in linux sucks, but that's why we have FreeBSD |
| 05:08.56 | lyken | im ameature photographer, cinematographer |
| 05:09.05 | lyken | nfs sucks no matter waht the OS is |
| 05:09.09 | bvacha | ****lyken, you rock!**** It worked!!! You have no idea how much time I spent on that!!! |
| 05:09.15 | lyken | what |
| 05:09.22 | MyQuiL | wait... didn't I give you the answer? :( |
| 05:09.25 | lyken | i was messign with you jasan and myquil are the ones that helped :) |
| 05:09.49 | jasonb | lyken: Did you see that Cinelerra 2.0 is out? |
| 05:10.09 | bvacha | oh, right, jasonb sent the message |
| 05:10.25 | lyken | jasonb: http://digitalchild.org/files/img/rack.jpg |
| 05:10.26 | bvacha | *****Thanks, jasonb!!! (and MyQuiL)******** |
| 05:10.33 | MyQuiL | heh, npx |
| 05:10.35 | jasonb | bvacha: You're welcome. |
| 05:10.41 | MyQuiL | now go get a real OS |
| 05:10.41 | lyken | thats the roack before i moved all that into rack cases |
| 05:11.05 | jasonb | lyken: What's that sissy mac doing in there?? :) |
| 05:11.13 | lyken | jasonb: thats testing your RPM builder |
| 05:11.15 | MyQuiL | you're bragging about bandwidth and you have a 3Com switch? *snigger* |
| 05:11.21 | lyken | MyQuiL: it was free |
| 05:11.28 | lyken | we have a 2450 on the other side of the room |
| 05:11.35 | MyQuiL | jasonb: sissy only because it's old. |
| 05:11.45 | MyQuiL | lyken: you didn't get your money's worth then. |
| 05:11.57 | lyken | MyQuiL: funny thing is the only reason its there is for testing postgresql and tomcat stuff |
| 05:12.02 | lyken | otherwise it would be powered down |
| 05:12.09 | lyken | it runs yellowdog linux |
| 05:12.11 | MyQuiL | What OS are you running on it? |
| 05:12.20 | lyken | MyQuiL: heh, everything in that rack was free |
| 05:12.38 | MyQuiL | ah, FreeBSD almost works on my G3 (with Easy Throw Handles) except for the bootloader... which renders everything else moot. |
| 05:12.39 | lyken | and in that picture that silver machine, has got 1.6TB of space, the black one as 1.2TB |
| 05:13.19 | jasonb | lyken: Cool. |
| 05:13.34 | lyken | still shopping for a UPS though |
| 05:13.45 | MyQuiL | I host userfriendly.org :) |
| 05:13.46 | lyken | the one i had (also free) only stored like 30 seconds of power |
| 05:13.51 | lyken | really? |
| 05:13.52 | lyken | cool |
| 05:13.56 | MyQuiL | yup. |
| 05:13.57 | lyken | jasonb: if you need hosting |
| 05:14.01 | lyken | you can nab some off me |
| 05:14.10 | MyQuiL | well, I lease 'em the machines and bandwidth |
| 05:14.14 | MyQuiL | they run the machines themselves. |
| 05:14.15 | lyken | _this_ machine is on 100mbit link |
| 05:14.23 | lyken | and hosts my werbsite and a few others |
| 05:14.34 | jasonb | lyken: That would be great. I have limited uplink bandwidth at my house. |
| 05:14.55 | lyken | just msg me any time |
| 05:14.59 | lyken | ill throw it where ever |
| 05:15.03 | lyken | and for you |
| 05:15.07 | jasonb | lyken: Okie. We'll talk. |
| 05:15.16 | lyken | ill chuck in 20gb of bandwidth /month |
| 05:19.49 | jasonb | I hardly ever need bandwidth.. I've gotten away with a pretty small amount of it for years, but I have large image files and I'd like to serve up the full resolution version and not have it take long to transfer when people request them. Everything else I host is low bandwidth. |
| 05:20.52 | lyken | no problems dude |
| 05:20.58 | lyken | the only problem i have is i dont control my dns |
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| 05:21.09 | lyken | so i cant point sub domains at other ips |
| 05:21.19 | lyken | (cause i dont know dns well enough to run it myself) |
| 05:21.37 | jasonb | ahh.. well, I do have a DNS server that I control. |
| 05:21.42 | MyQuiL | not much to it. |
| 05:22.47 | lyken | well the hosting offer is there, and ill hook you up :) |
| 05:23.11 | jasonb | Sweet! Thanks. |
| 05:23.14 | lyken | next question is if you require tomcat :) |
| 05:23.20 | lyken | cause ill have to play that game with it |
| 05:23.46 | jasonb | heh. No, I only host my web stuff on Zeus. :) |
| 05:23.58 | lyken | haha |
| 05:24.13 | lyken | i wouldnt install it if you asked :) |
| 05:25.02 | MyQuiL | You mean like Hotmail IIS on fBSD 4? ;) |
| 05:25.03 | lyken | haha |
| 05:25.10 | lyken | MyQuiL: not anymore |
| 05:25.15 | MyQuiL | how many years did it takke them to migrate? |
| 05:25.20 | lyken | lol |
| 05:25.23 | lyken | as long as i was at college |
| 05:26.36 | jasonb | I thought that was hilarious as well. |
| 05:27.48 | lyken | well they did buy it off someone else didnt they? |
| 05:28.53 | MyQuiL | Yes. |
| 05:29.29 | lyken | prolly not for $5bil like broadcast.com |
| 05:30.37 | MyQuiL | 'jasonb' reminds me of... |
| 05:30.38 | MyQuiL | ---Topic for #BSD is 1-800-Doctorb - The B stands for BARGIN! |
| 05:30.56 | lyken | jasonb: oh? |
| 05:31.10 | lyken | $5bil is a lot of money |
| 05:31.10 | MyQuiL | Then again, it's just fun to say 'torb'. |
| 05:31.20 | lyken | like how can you justify how much something is worth.. |
| 05:35.23 | lyken | the guy that started wired magazine backpacks around the world aimlessly as he said, 'i have everything i ever watned, so i dont know what to do next' |
| 05:37.09 | jasonb | I know that happens. It would be pretty interesting to study what people do in that situation. |
| 05:39.16 | lyken | id like to be in that situation |
| 05:39.33 | lyken | id start up a foundation thats job is to give money to research orgs that need that 'little' extra |
| 05:41.03 | jasonb | heh |
| 05:41.12 | MyQuiL | How in $DEITY's name do you turn off XDB in Oracle 9i? |
| 05:41.24 | MyQuiL | I ask here, because it too runs on 8080 |
| 05:41.42 | lyken | lol |
| 05:41.47 | jasonb | killall -9 oracle |
| 05:41.54 | lyken | cause oracle has its own application server that is poopy |
| 05:42.09 | lyken | i love the fact it requires x11 to install |
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| 06:17.50 | PR0JECT | hello? |
| 06:18.53 | lyken | echo |
| 06:19.23 | PR0JECT | can someone lend me a hand? i'm having an issue with tomcat and apache using mod_jk |
| 06:20.33 | lyken | not me sorry |
| 06:20.53 | lyken | mod_jk was a pain so i used proxy instead |
| 06:21.58 | PR0JECT | any directions on this proxy thing? |
| 06:22.15 | lyken | the high quality apache.org documentatin ? |
| 06:22.25 | lyken | (im being very sarcastic btw :) ) |
| 06:22.40 | PR0JECT | ok, well i'm sorta new to this. i'll look around. |
| 06:22.50 | lyken | ill even get you the link |
| 06:22.53 | lyken | cause its difficult to find :) |
| 06:24.10 | lyken | http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/connectors-doc/config/apache.html |
| 06:24.14 | lyken | assuming you're using apache :) |
| 06:25.32 | PR0JECT | awesome. maybe this will work better for me. the mod_jk thing has been torture form day one. |
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| 06:29.09 | PR0JECT | lyken. so you used this technique to work with apache and tomcat serving .jsp files? |
| 06:32.34 | lyken | thats the modjk docs i pasted.. |
| 06:32.46 | lyken | proxy takes like 3 lines of changes :) |
| 06:33.12 | PR0JECT | so the proxy thing works with tomcat and apache and jsp? |
| 06:33.20 | lyken | yer |
| 06:33.42 | PR0JECT | is there a tut on that? you said it was easier to configure? |
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| 06:34.06 | lyken | way easier |
| 06:34.07 | lyken | um |
| 06:34.17 | lyken | i googled tomcat + apache + mod_proxy |
| 06:34.24 | lyken | found a few out there |
| 06:36.07 | PR0JECT | this look about right? http://www.jahia.org/jahia/Jahia/devzone/architecture/pid/165 |
| 06:36.11 | PR0JECT | sorry to bug you |
| 06:36.15 | lyken | its ok |
| 06:36.20 | lyken | one day you will help someone else :) |
| 06:36.28 | lyken | what goes around, comes around :) |
| 06:36.36 | PR0JECT | i hope to be fluent enough to help one day. |
| 06:36.41 | PR0JECT | i can help with flash..heh |
| 06:36.45 | lyken | ive just idled long enough |
| 06:36.55 | lyken | to see problems and their solutions + my own experience with them |
| 06:37.04 | PR0JECT | it's the best way |
| 06:37.47 | lyken | what tomcat are you running? |
| 06:37.54 | lyken | 5.5? |
| 06:38.11 | PR0JECT | 4.1.31 |
| 06:38.28 | lyken | oh my |
| 06:38.32 | lyken | can you upgrade? |
| 06:38.38 | lyken | if you can id highly recommend it |
| 06:38.56 | PR0JECT | i could. but then i'm scared i wont get it running at all. lol. maybe i could do it on my test server first. |
| 06:39.06 | PR0JECT | does the upgrade to 5.5 work better? |
| 06:39.16 | lyken | 5.5 is faster, newer, and supported :) |
| 06:39.18 | lyken | what OS ? |
| 06:39.22 | lyken | windows? |
| 06:39.33 | PR0JECT | win nt server |
| 06:39.41 | lyken | egads |
| 06:39.45 | lyken | you running anything new ? :) |
| 06:39.45 | PR0JECT | ;) |
| 06:39.52 | lyken | well windows is pretty easy |
| 06:39.54 | lyken | download the jdk 1.5 |
| 06:39.59 | lyken | download tomcat 5.5.9 |
| 06:40.03 | lyken | install |
| 06:40.06 | lyken | ill be back in 15 mins |
| 06:40.10 | PR0JECT | ok |
| 06:42.41 | PR0JECT | the only jsk i can see is the netbeans packages 5.0 |
| 06:44.59 | PR0JECT | jdk, not jsk :) |
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| 06:55.31 | hackwolf | PR0JECT: Search for "Download JDK 5.0 Update 4" in the page http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp |
| 06:57.39 | PR0JECT | i dont see jdk but i see j2se. is that ok? |
| 06:57.52 | PR0JECT | wait, nevermind.. found it |
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| 07:11.49 | asb | Hello. Does someone here have experience with embedded Tomcat? |
| 07:13.19 | lyken | me not |
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| 07:17.08 | asb | Tomcat starts fine without errors or warnings and accepts HTTP requests. The requests are mapped to correct contexts. But all responses return 404. |
| 07:17.42 | asb | I'm using the sample code from: http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2002/04/03/tomcat.html |
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| 07:44.41 | asb | Oops. Sorry. I copied the default web.xml to ${catalina.home}/conf and things started to work. |
| 07:44.51 | lyken | cools :) |
| 07:44.55 | lyken | ill remmeber that for next time |
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| 07:48.48 | Lukas | hi all, can I ask for help? |
| 07:49.00 | vinse | just ask |
| 07:49.23 | vinse | dont ask to ask |
| 07:49.36 | vinse | cant know if we can help you till we hear your qeustion! |
| 07:49.49 | Lukas | is there any way to upgrade from tomcat 3.3 to 4.12? |
| 07:50.06 | lyken | egads, Lukas just go all the way to 5.5 :) |
| 07:50.13 | Lukas | with same configuration |
| 07:50.29 | lyken | tc 3.x is so very old |
| 07:51.23 | Lukas | we need to update tomcat because we need to upgrade NPS to Extend 4.1 on novell, but when we install tomcat 4, he create new directory, and configuration files are not functional |
| 07:53.19 | Lukas | is there any way to siply copy any files from old to new tomcat? or it is not that simple? |
| 07:54.24 | vinse | Lukas: i dont think there's any automated tool to update your config files if that's what you mean |
| 07:54.25 | lyken | if the webapps arent using anything tomcat 3.3 specific it _should_ be possible to install new tomcat |
| 07:54.39 | lyken | and copy the web apps, but the configs |
| 07:54.44 | lyken | will have to be done manually |
| 07:55.41 | vinse | i.e. it will probably not be painless |
| 07:58.04 | Lukas | yes, i ment some automated tool. we copied web apps, but it does not work. i did not edit server conf files, because it is new for me, but i think it is necessary. so, i will try it. i rather ask if there is not painless way. ok, thanks |
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| 08:32.31 | Lukas | tomcat 3.3 has default webapps database on sys:webapps, where is default for tomcat 4? |
| 08:33.28 | Lukas | tomcat/4/webapps? |
| 08:35.01 | linuxfreck | Lukas: why do you migrate _to_ tomcat4? most people move away from it and to tomcat 5.5 |
| 08:35.29 | linuxfreck | Lukas: but the default dir for web applications is the webapps dir within the tomcat directory |
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| 08:43.50 | Lukas | because my co-worker want to migrate to this specific version |
| 08:43.52 | Lukas | :( |
| 08:44.56 | Lukas | what i must edit to make it work? (i have tc3.3 webapps on SYS and fresh install of tc4.12) |
| 08:47.27 | linuxfreck | I have no idea what SYS might be |
| 08:48.09 | Lukas | novell SYS: |
| 09:04.00 | linuxfreck | Lukas: the default webapps directory is setup in the server.xml file in the Host element |
| 09:09.24 | Lukas | ok, there i can set webapps directory (i will set it to webapps directory from tc3.3), is there anything else to do to make it work in tc4? |
| 09:10.30 | linuxfreck | Lukas: depends on whether you had configured data sources or context properties etc in the tc3.3 server.xml |
| 09:33.05 | HandyAndE | linuxfreck: thanks for your help yesterday - got what I needed investigated :) |
| 09:33.37 | HandyAndE | linuxfreck: but is there a way for a webapp to declare that it wants to be crossContext=true? (or do I need to add that to the INSTALL instructions?) - thanks :) |
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| 10:03.35 | linuxfreck | HandyAndE: have a META-INF/context.xml file |
| 10:04.04 | HandyAndE | is that universal, or tomcat specific? |
| 10:04.20 | linuxfreck | the whole crossContext idea seems to be tomcat specific |
| 10:07.05 | HandyAndE | oh, yes of course - so resin etc allow the getContext("name") by default... |
| 10:08.47 | linuxfreck | I wouldn't count on that |
| 10:10.19 | HandyAndE | hmm, ok |
| 10:10.33 | HandyAndE | well, i will leave the old system in as a backup |
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| 11:53.04 | totaler_hirntot | one silly question: i added an embeded tomcat into my java-app but where or how i can connect my servlet to tomcat? |
| 11:57.05 | totaler_hirntot | :( |
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| 12:50.02 | halux | hi all, I have a problem that I get an OutOfMemory error in my tomcat after some time. What I do is start tomcat, automatically deploy a webapp, crawl the pages, undeploy the webapp. But after some time tomcat runs out of memory |
| 12:51.06 | halux | So my question is if I am doing something wrong with deploying/undeploying. Is there something hold by the server itself which doesn't get deleted during undeploy ? |
| 12:51.34 | halux | Oh, I am running tomcat 5.0.30 |
| 12:57.42 | linuxfreck | halux: there was a bug that was fixed in 5.5.something, but I'm not sure wheter it was backported to 5.0 |
| 12:59.07 | linuxfreck | halux: http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26135 |
| 12:59.29 | halux | linuxfreck: thanks ! |
| 13:01.52 | halux | linuxfreck: ah, yes. I found this already a while ago and implemented the sugested sollution |
| 13:02.15 | halux | this fixed the redeploy problem as reproduceable with the testapp |
| 13:02.58 | halux | But I still have problems with my own app (which does a lot more than the testapp, it is for compiling the jsps to get a static package) |
| 13:25.29 | crackhead | morning everyone ;) |
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| 13:28.30 | jasonb | good morning crackhead. |
| 13:29.10 | pucko | excellent morning for some wasted hours on warcraft |
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| 13:38.25 | halux | Maybe it has something to do with 36558/36559 (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=36558) |
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| 14:13.37 | a4akb | ibot women |
| 14:13.39 | ibot | from memory, women is woman > 1 |
| 14:13.54 | a4akb | ibot forget women |
| 14:13.54 | ibot | a4akb: i forgot women |
| 14:14.08 | a4akb | ibot women are mean political bitches |
| 14:14.10 | ibot | a4akb: please, watch your language. |
| 14:14.25 | a4akb | ibot cool |
| 14:14.33 | a4akb | ibot women are mean political witches |
| 14:14.34 | ibot | okay, a4akb |
| 14:17.43 | linuxfreck | heh |
| 14:18.10 | linuxfreck | a4akb: frustrated? :) |
| 14:18.34 | a4akb | linuxfreck: being truthful |
| 14:18.59 | linuxfreck | well sure, but we all know this, no? |
| 14:19.12 | a4akb | apparently ibot didnt |
| 14:19.14 | a4akb | lol |
| 14:19.44 | linuxfreck | ibot's just a bot... |
| 14:20.09 | a4akb | yeah so its our right to keep it upto date |
| 14:20.10 | a4akb | :P |
| 14:22.15 | a4akb | ibot men |
| 14:22.17 | ibot | it has been said that men is man > 1 |
| 14:22.26 | a4akb | ibot lame |
| 14:22.28 | ibot | somebody said lame was an LGPL MP3 encoder, #mp3encoder http://lame.sourceforge.net/ see http://www.apt-get.org/ apt-get sites |
| 14:24.22 | a4akb | linuxfreck where r u located |
| 14:25.57 | linuxfreck | a4akb: passau, germany |
| 14:25.57 | linuxfreck | as my /whois info says, too :) |
| 14:25.57 | a4akb | ah |
| 14:25.57 | a4akb | is it 3:30pm now |
| 14:25.57 | a4akb | or 4:30pm |
| 14:26.16 | linuxfreck | 4:30 |
| 14:26.35 | linuxfreck | still in daylight savings time |
| 14:26.45 | a4akb | ok |
| 14:26.55 | linuxfreck | so where are you from? |
| 14:28.07 | a4akb | india |
| 14:28.15 | a4akb | but in kuwait now |
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| 14:38.19 | ctp | hi folks. is it possible to integrate server.xml within the project? i mean same like web.xml from /etc/tomcat5/web.xml to WEB-INF/web.xml. |
| 14:44.09 | linuxfreck | ctp: no, but you can put the <context /> part into META-INF/context.xml |
| 14:44.35 | linuxfreck | and you should not need anything else anyway |
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| 14:55.36 | MyQuiL | http://www.sun.com/emrkt/rejected/index.html |
| 14:56.08 | ctp | linuxfreck: thx |
| 14:56.11 | linuxfreck | yea, sun marketing is doing wierd things again |
| 14:56.41 | linuxfreck | they had that plane with the "watch out" banner flying over dell campus, too |
| 15:01.34 | halux | bye.... |
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| 15:50.51 | PROJECt | can anyone help explain something to me in this doc? http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/connectors-doc/howto/apache.html |
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| 15:55.54 | PROJECt | this place is always totally dead :/ |
| 15:56.50 | freck | PROJECt: go to #jmeter and see what dead really is :) |
| 15:57.03 | freck | PROJECt: what was your question again? |
| 16:13.56 | PROJECt | my question is regarding the mod_jk.conf file discussed in this tut http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/connectors-doc/howto/apache.html |
| 16:16.47 | freck | PROJECt: and? |
| 16:19.11 | PROJECt | well it talks about putting into the httpd.conf file, but i didnt see anywhere it discussed even obtaining a mod_jk.conf file. |
| 16:19.29 | PROJECt | i downloaded the mod_jk.dll file. which it mentioned. but the .conf thing came out of nowhere |
| 16:19.53 | freck | the mod_jk.conf is generated by the listener that you should add to server.xml |
| 16:28.30 | PROJECt | oh, ok. let me try . |
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| 16:31.59 | PROJECt | will the httpd.conf read spaces in file paths? |
| 16:32.18 | freck | no idea |
| 16:32.22 | freck | try it and see |
| 16:34.25 | PROJECt | im having a problem with my paths... |
| 16:34.31 | PROJECt | this is on a windows system. |
| 16:34.51 | PROJECt | do i need to put the c:\program files\apache foundation\tomcat 5.5\conf |
| 16:34.54 | PROJECt | ? |
| 16:35.35 | freck | the best thing to do is forget apache http and run tomcat on port 80, but I suppose you can't do that |
| 16:36.53 | PROJECt | i thought tomcat isnt any good for a public web server? |
| 16:37.12 | freck | that's not correct |
| 16:37.42 | PROJECt | I thought it mentioned that in documentation.. to only use it as a dev server. |
| 16:37.54 | freck | tomcat is as fast as httpd and due to java features more secure |
| 16:38.00 | freck | must be old documentation |
| 16:38.26 | PROJECt | can you point me to the direction where it mentions how tomcat is ok for a web server? |
| 16:39.37 | jasonb | Tomcat is okay for a web server. |
| 16:40.20 | PROJECt | this is for a very large site. so i'd hate for it to screw up. |
| 16:40.52 | freck | heh |
| 16:40.54 | jasonb | Tomcat scales up just fine. Just use 5.5.10 for now, or what's currently in CVS HEAD. |
| 16:41.10 | PROJECt | what if i need to run some php as well as asp from tomcat. is it complex to set up? |
| 16:42.20 | jasonb | PROJECt: Anything that could run as a cgi will work directly from Tomcat due to Tomcat's included CGIServlet. If it can't run as a CGI, then you can proxy requests from Tomcat out to wherever else you want to serve it from.. or, do an HTTP redirect to it. |
| 16:42.42 | freck | tomcat has a proxy implementation? |
| 16:43.26 | jasonb | freck: No, but there are plenty of webapp-space ones. |
| 16:43.38 | freck | ah ok |
| 16:44.09 | jasonb | http://noodle.tigris.org |
| 16:44.09 | jasonb | http://httpbridge.sf.net |
| 16:44.09 | jasonb | http://frank.spieleck.de/servlets.jsp |
| 16:44.09 | jasonb | http://www.jmarshall.com/tools/cgiproxy |
| 16:44.55 | jasonb | Doing it that way, you'd have the fastest web server up front, and old/slow/different technologies that are used less in the back. |
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| 16:48.48 | hunter | I don't think the log files are going to help with this one (newbie reading the topic) |
| 16:51.28 | PROJECt | ok, how about virtual hosts and tomcat? |
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| 16:58.14 | jasonb | ibot: vhosts |
| 16:58.15 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, vhosts is http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/config/host.html |
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| 17:33.12 | PROJECt | which file contains the vhost? |
| 17:35.14 | jasonb | server.xml. |
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| 17:46.09 | puff | Afternoon. |
| 17:46.13 | puff | Damn, I hate large log files. |
| 17:47.26 | PROJECt | is there anywya to setup a test vhost on a local machine? like have localhost1 poitn someonewhere different then localhost2? |
| 17:51.36 | Hugh_ | change your /etc/hosts so that hostname.somerandomdomain.com points to 127.0.0.1 |
| 17:51.46 | PROJECt | I dunno. i can't see in anything in the above linked document that explains directly how to set up mutliple hosts.i see stuff on logs and users, but nothing on seperate hosts? |
| 17:51.51 | PROJECt | oh ok |
| 17:52.07 | puff | So, with a 6 million line log file, anybody know of a better way to clip out a chunk from the middle than "tail -2533554 logfile | head -258621" |
| 17:52.39 | PROJECt | hugh_ wher eis etc/hosts? i have no ect folder |
| 17:52.47 | Hugh_ | puff: write some perl that does the same thing, or make your logs rotate more in the first place :P |
| 17:55.30 | jasonb | puff: Unfortunately, you're after a section of _lines_, and what marks each one is a line ending, and software has to search for each one of those, which takes resources. |
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| 17:59.01 | puff | Hugh_: I'm working on that :-). |
| 17:59.27 | Hugh_ | PROJECt: what OS? |
| 17:59.36 | puff | Really, I suspect it should be trivial to get switched over to log4j. |
| 18:00.46 | puff | The one bit I'd really like is a java language-aware scripting tool, so I could iterate over all the classes and methods and rewrite the System.out.println(message) calls with log("packagename" + "." + "classname" + "." + "methodname", message) |
| 18:01.09 | PROJECt | _hugh windows |
| 18:01.37 | PROJECt | I'm tempted to just hire someone to do this for me. it's seeming impossble. |
| 18:01.59 | PROJECt | I just don't have the experience. :\ |
| 18:05.15 | Hugh_ | somewhere like c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts |
| 18:07.13 | PROJECt | i didnt tihnk tomcat installed outside of the tomcat folder |
| 18:07.46 | PROJECt | oh wiat, i know what you're saying |
| 18:08.44 | PROJECt | is there any easy to read documention on setting up virtual hosts in tomcat? i'm currntly using mod jk, which was sorta working. but now i just want to try out tomcat on it's own. but i can't figure out a decent tut on how it's done. |
| 18:15.25 | freck | PROJECt: I don't know a tutorial, but just look at conf/server.xml and add another <Host> Element after the existing one |
| 18:18.48 | PROJECt | is there suppoe to be <cluster> inside the <host> tag? |
| 18:20.18 | freck | PROJECt: it's commented out by default |
| 18:23.04 | PROJECt | hmm, i think i'm getting somewhere now |
| 18:24.30 | PROJECt | ]for appBase= do i need to do the path? for instance, i'm just trying to point it to jsp-examples, which is inside webapps |
| 18:24.39 | PROJECt | so it it appBase="webapps/jsp-examples" ? |
| 18:26.10 | freck | not really, appBase is only useful for auto-deployment of Contexts |
| 18:26.22 | freck | are you familiar with the concept of web application contexts? |
| 18:26.34 | PROJECt | i'm not sure.. |
| 18:26.40 | PROJECt | it doesnt ring a loud be;ll. |
| 18:26.56 | freck | you should :) |
| 18:27.11 | PROJECt | i want 127.0.0.1 to go to webapps and 127.0.0.2 to go to the jsp-examples folder. 127.0.0.1 works |
| 18:27.33 | PROJECt | i know i should. theres just so much for me to learn. |
| 18:27.56 | freck | a Context basically contains a single web application and is mapped into the tomcat url space |
| 18:28.33 | PROJECt | ok, so isnt that what i was trying to do with jsp-exmaples linked from 127.0.0.2? |
| 18:28.36 | freck | if you put a folder into the folder that you config as appBase, it will be automatically loaded as a Context |
| 18:28.49 | PROJECt | hmm. |
| 18:29.06 | freck | you want to have jsp-examples as the root context (i.e the one that answers /) |
| 18:29.25 | freck | well I have no idea whether windows allows 127.0.0.2 |
| 18:29.37 | PROJECt | right, answers the .2 and yes, it does work :) |
| 18:29.49 | jasonb | Neat. |
| 18:29.59 | freck | just checked, linux does, too |
| 18:30.04 | PROJECt | swank :) |
| 18:30.07 | jasonb | freck: Internally only? |
| 18:30.19 | jasonb | freck: Like, you can't hit that from outside the box, right? |
| 18:30.28 | PROJECt | this is only internal for me, i have real i.p that i will set up once this works right |
| 18:30.32 | freck | jasonb: right, 127.0.0.0/8 is local afaik |
| 18:30.41 | jasonb | freck: Neato. |
| 18:31.08 | PROJECt | so you're saying that appBase="jsp-exmples" should work with the hostname="127.0.0.2"? |
| 18:31.49 | PROJECt | nah, i didnt work.. |
| 18:31.52 | freck | PROJECt: it won't |
| 18:31.54 | freck | heh |
| 18:31.56 | PROJECt | lol |
| 18:32.23 | PROJECt | but it does work with webapps |
| 18:32.31 | freck | yeah |
| 18:32.50 | PROJECt | shiat |
| 18:32.53 | freck | because the webapps folder contains loads of folders that are designed to be webapps |
| 18:33.32 | PROJECt | so if i want to target the jsp-exmaples folder, how is that done? |
| 18:35.18 | freck | make the appBase dir point somewhere else, i.e. an empty dir, and add within the Host element: <Context docBase="webapps/jsp-examples" path="" /> |
| 18:35.30 | freck | this is untested though :) |
| 18:36.44 | PROJECt | so it will look like this? gimme a sex |
| 18:36.46 | PROJECt | sec ;) |
| 18:37.22 | PROJECt | <host name="127.0.0.2" appBase="emptyfolder"> |
| 18:37.29 | PROJECt | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:37.32 | PROJECt | </host>? |
| 18:37.58 | PROJECt | that look right? |
| 18:37.58 | freck | it's case sensitive as far as I know, so use <Host> |
| 18:38.13 | PROJECt | ok, ill try it |
| 18:38.19 | PROJECt | but the folder should be empty? |
| 18:38.21 | PROJECt | wiierd |
| 18:38.45 | freck | well not really wierd |
| 18:39.03 | PROJECt | i dont understand why it needs an empty folder |
| 18:39.39 | freck | if you happen to get .war files of other webapps, then they would go into that empty folder, unless you want to have <Context> elemensts for them, too |
| 18:39.47 | freck | pucko: so they fixed the session issue? |
| 18:40.25 | pucko | not what I know of |
| 18:40.37 | pucko | I just wrote that I want it :) |
| 18:41.02 | freck | any reasons then? :) |
| 18:41.14 | PROJECt | son-of-a-bitch. it worked. |
| 18:43.41 | PROJECt | another question. should i install into ROOT or just webapps? |
| 18:43.49 | PROJECt | sites i mean. |
| 18:44.38 | freck | a somewhat unrelated question: why do you use tomcat at all? |
| 18:44.58 | jasonb | pucko: I don't know if they have nightlies available, but if they do, that should be good.. or, you can always pull the source & build it. :) |
| 18:45.30 | pucko | me; I like the java language and all things builtin. very easy to configure too |
| 18:46.05 | pucko | jasonb, the building seem to be a bit.. complicated, so I'll wait until the final tarball :) |
| 18:46.35 | jasonb | pucko: Waiting is fine.. But, building it isn't really that complex. They made it easy to do. |
| 18:46.54 | jasonb | Building Tomcat 4.x was way harder. |
| 18:47.27 | freck | PROJECt: I mean, if you want to develop or use java web applications, you should get a good book, and half of your questions will answer themselves. and if not, tomcat may not be the best choice |
| 18:47.55 | pucko | hmmm... well, maybe I'll look into it someday. right now WoW takes too much time :) |
| 18:48.12 | freck | one wierd thing about the tomcat build process is that it tries to download dependencies to somewhere in /usr by default |
| 18:48.30 | PROJECt | I'm using tomcat because of jsp |
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| 18:55.24 | freck | PROJECt: get a good book then |
| 19:02.18 | PROJECt | a good tomcat book? |
| 19:02.35 | PROJECt | my jsp skills arent so bad nowaday. but the server side has something to be desired. |
| 19:02.56 | a4akb | ibot ttdg |
| 19:02.58 | PROJECt | i'm still kind of nervous about not using apache at all and only tomcat for my web server. |
| 19:03.41 | a4akb | PROJECt: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tomcat/ |
| 19:04.08 | a4akb | ibot ttdg is http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tomcat/ |
| 19:04.09 | ibot | a4akb: okay |
| 19:04.13 | freck | PROJECt: think that way: tomcat is from apache, too :) |
| 19:04.39 | PROJECt | so i shouldnt be concerned. |
| 19:08.26 | freck | yeah |
| 19:10.57 | PROJECt | sh!t. now that i've upgraded my server, my conn.statement isnt working right. |
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| 19:54.14 | a4akb | any network geeks around |
| 19:54.32 | a4akb | can we use a proxy addy in the browser to access irc that is being blocked by a hardware firewall on a network |
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| 20:14.10 | puff | a4akb: Uhm, what? |
| 20:14.28 | puff | a4akb: short answer is yes, but there are complicaitons. |
| 20:14.33 | puff | a4akb: Long answer is |
| 20:14.36 | puff | more complex. |
| 20:15.34 | a4akb | lol puff |
| 20:16.22 | puff | a4akb: In a nutshell, short of protocol inspection (which is not common these days, current state of the art on the store shelves these days is SPI, stateful packet inspection, protocol inspection would use gobs of CPU and probably hurtful latency), if the firewall is configured to let connections go through on certain ports, then you can use those ports to carry anything you want. |
| 20:16.27 | puff | Assuming you have control of both ends. |
| 20:16.49 | puff | So, you'd have to have a machine that's not running a web server, and set up a portforwarder (or something) on port 80, then have your irc client hit that machine on port 80. |
| 20:17.23 | puff | Or, have your webserver (say, tomcat) have some sort of application-level irc proxy. |
| 20:17.35 | puff | This is theoretically possible, but not trivial to do. |
| 20:18.12 | puff | Though I wouldn't be surprised if somebody out there has done it, since people tunnel all sorts of shit over port 80, these days, because firewalls let port 80 through. |
| 20:18.38 | puff | REAL security would only allow outside web connections via your own HTTP proxy server. |
| 20:18.45 | a4akb | :P |
| 20:18.55 | a4akb | ssh can be handy |
| 20:19.02 | a4akb | or http://www.megaproxy.com/ |
| 20:19.03 | puff | So it's possible that your network isn't actually allowing full access to port 80. |
| 20:19.11 | a4akb | true |
| 20:19.13 | puff | Yeah, personally, I'd generally use ssh. |
| 20:19.20 | puff | But hey, that's what I use :-). |
| 20:19.25 | a4akb | lol |
| 20:19.29 | puff | I ssh out to my linux box, run my irc client there. |
| 20:19.42 | a4akb | hmmm |
| 20:20.12 | puff | Hm, if PROJECT comes back around, tell him that I've been using stand-alone tomcat (no apache) for about a year and a half now, no problems. |
| 20:20.23 | a4akb | puff if i had a real ip, if i configure mozilla to use that real ip for connecting as a proxy, would chatzilla work? |
| 20:20.30 | puff | Granted, our app is fully dynamic, about the only static data is the CSS file and the single logo image. |
| 20:20.37 | puff | a4akb: Come again? |
| 20:20.45 | puff | If you have a real ip where? |
| 20:20.57 | a4akb | if i have a real ip configured on my browser |
| 20:21.01 | a4akb | as a proxy addy |
| 20:21.16 | puff | The phrase "a real ip configured on my browser" doesn't make any snese to me, can you try to explain it in a different way? |
| 20:21.26 | puff | Start with what "real ip" means. |
| 20:21.29 | puff | Static IP? |
| 20:21.32 | a4akb | yes |
| 20:21.34 | puff | Static IP address? |
| 20:21.37 | a4akb | yes |
| 20:21.40 | a4akb | Yes. |
| 20:21.45 | puff | And is that for the machine where you're running mozilla, or some machine elsewhere? |
| 20:21.53 | a4akb | elsewhere |
| 20:22.17 | puff | Okay, so you have a machine elsewhere, you can certainly configure your mozilla to try to use that machien as the proxy. |
| 20:22.17 | puff | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:22.28 | puff | Next question is a) is that machine set up to support being used as a proxy |
| 20:22.28 | a4akb | if its for my own machine, nothing like it. but my network uses dynamic allocation of ip addys on login |
| 20:22.41 | puff | and b) what does chatzilla do at the network level? |
| 20:22.49 | a4akb | maybe maybe not |
| 20:22.55 | puff | I would generally suspect that chatzilla just speaks the irc protocol directly to the irc server. |
| 20:22.56 | a4akb | dunno |
| 20:23.01 | a4akb | hence the question |
| 20:23.14 | puff | So, again, unless you have something set up to proxy irc protocol |
| 20:23.55 | puff | Anyway, this is a) getting involved and I need to finish troubleshooting this issue, and b) not really a #tomcat topic. |
| 20:24.40 | a4akb | nm puff i appreciate ur time |
| 20:25.10 | puff | No sweat. |
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| 22:17.59 | sulay | does tomcat run on mac ? |
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| 22:48.13 | jasonb | Sure, just slower. :)) |
| 22:49.19 | MyQuiL | hater :P |
| 22:58.04 | jasonb | heh. |
| 22:59.59 | MyQuiL | FC? Why not get a real OS? |
| 23:00.17 | MyQuiL | I mean -- why would you even run Linux on anything but x86? |
| 23:02.29 | jasonb | Because I don't like hackOSx, and I'm temporarily stuck with a macintop. |
| 23:03.02 | JavaGeek | greetings, bytecodes!(tm) |
| 23:03.13 | jasonb | Besides, I know how to use qemu quite well. :) |
| 23:04.25 | LaidBack_01 | what does qemu do for you/ |
| 23:04.38 | LaidBack_01 | Ive heard quite a bit about it - but nothing as far as what it does. |
| 23:05.21 | LaidBack_01 | nevermind google just helped me solve that. |
| 23:05.52 | jasonb | It's like an OSS vmware that lets you run any x86 OS on top of just about any computer, including non-x86 hosts. |
| 23:06.28 | jasonb | So from Linux you run qemu, and qemu boots a guest OS, so you can run the host Linux and the guest OS at the same time, which may be Windows or Linux or Solaris, for example. |
| 23:07.08 | jasonb | So from a hacintop running Linux you could run qemu on that, and Windows XP (x86) inside qemu. |
| 23:09.24 | LaidBack_01 | that's handy - and here I was just about to buy vmware... |
| 23:09.42 | LaidBack_01 | heh, I think I'll try out qemu just to see if it's as good as the trial of vmware. |
| 23:11.00 | jasonb | Qemu is great. What host OS do you run? |
| 23:12.36 | LaidBack_01 | Gentoo or debian linux |
| 23:13.24 | jasonb | That would work great.. just don't get the package from your distro, get it straight from the qemu downloads page. |
| 23:13.39 | jasonb | Go on over to #qemu, lots of us hang out there and can answer questions. |
| 23:13.57 | vinse | what shortcomings does it have? what's some stuff it cant do |
| 23:14.00 | vinse | ? |
| 23:14.04 | LaidBack_01 | ok, will do |
| 23:14.37 | jasonb | Well, if your host's hardware isn't x86 or x86_64, it's slower because the kernel accelerator modules aren't made for anything but those. |
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| 23:15.26 | jasonb | Also, qemu can emulate other architectures like PPC, SPARC, ARM, and MIPS, but those aren't complete yet like x86 and x86_64 is. |
| 23:15.44 | jasonb | So Solaris SPARC doesn't boot inside of qemu quite yet, but people are working on it. |
| 23:15.59 | jasonb | Neither does OSX PPC.. but same deal -- people are working on it. |
| 23:16.18 | jasonb | Otherwise, that's pretty much it for the limitations. :) |
| 23:17.02 | jasonb | Oh, and there have been a few problems installing & booting win95/98 inside of qemu. |
| 23:17.10 | jasonb | But, I think some people have that working as well. |
| 23:17.17 | vinse | what happens with shared resources? network interfaces etc? |
| 23:21.29 | jasonb | They each have different controls and issues. But generally it can work like vmware. |
| 23:21.51 | jasonb | Or, even more flexibly than vmware, especially on a Linux host. |
| 23:23.06 | jasonb | Also, I use it for Tomcat/webapp development quite a bit because our production servers run a different Linux than I run on my desktop, so with qemu I can emulate that exactly, and develop with Tomcat running inside qemu precisely as it would on a real production box. Works great. |
| 23:23.48 | jasonb | Also, the disk image subsystem supports snapshotting and a way to roll back to a previous disk state.. which I also can't live without. |
| 23:24.00 | jasonb | And this is all OSS.. :) |
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| 23:36.55 | octoberdan | I'm following apache's instructions for setting up tomcat, but when it comes time to jscv I get "Cannot execute JSVC executor process" |
| 23:38.53 | octoberdan | The command: |
| 23:38.54 | octoberdan | jsvc -Djava.endorsed.dirs=./common/endorsed -cp ./bin/bootstrap.jar -outfile ./logs/catalina.out -errfile ./logs/catalina.err org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap |
| 23:39.08 | octoberdan | Same as on the website |
| 23:39.14 | octoberdan | a coppied and pasted even... |
| 23:42.04 | jasonb | octoberdan: Which OS & OS version are you doing this on? |
| 23:42.20 | octoberdan | Debian linux |
| 23:42.26 | octoberdan | with latest kernal, I beleive |
| 23:42.43 | octoberdan | Sarge 3.1 |
| 23:43.06 | octoberdan | oh, Kernal 2.6 |
| 23:44.28 | octoberdan | Anythoughts? |
| 23:48.18 | octoberdan | Oh well, I'll just run it manualy... thanks anyways |
| 23:48.58 | jasonb | Debian's just too b0rken for me to help.. sorry. |
| 23:51.05 | LaidBack_01 | yeah, I've tried to get tomcat to run on debian - and it wants to run it on that bloody kaffe... |
| 23:51.07 | LaidBack_01 | man, what a joke |
| 23:52.00 | LaidBack_01 | after running into a few roadblocks getting the sun-jre's in place in /opt where i wanted them, I went back to using debian for my database servers and Gentoo for my front end web servers. |
| 23:52.05 | LaidBack_01 | life is easy again! |
| 23:53.36 | jasonb | It's a recurring scenario, sadly. |
