| 00:51.56 | jasonb | Get some sleep pucko. |
| 01:06.41 | lyken | *yawn* |
| 01:21.06 | crackhead | anyone know why I might be getting a java.lang.OutOfMemoryError |
| 01:21.17 | crackhead | for some reason I keep getting it |
| 01:22.55 | lyken | what sort of machine you got |
| 01:23.02 | lyken | what sort of application you running ? |
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| 01:28.07 | crackhead | it's an application I'm writing |
| 01:28.18 | crackhead | powerbook |
| 01:28.42 | lyken | is it creating large vector or anything? |
| 01:29.24 | crackhead | I don't think so |
| 01:30.16 | lyken | what gives you that out of memory error |
| 01:30.20 | lyken | when your just running it ? |
| 01:30.24 | lyken | or a specific action? |
| 01:31.03 | crackhead | seems to be just when I'm running it |
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| 01:44.19 | lyken | hmmz |
| 01:44.32 | lyken | not being speciific makes it very difficult to help out |
| 02:32.18 | jasonb | crackhead: What memory settings are you using when you're starting the Tomcat JVM? |
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| 03:51.49 | crackhead | jasonb : just the default. I haven't done anything special to change it. |
| 04:02.21 | jasonb | crackhead: *that* may cause an OutOfMemoryError. The default memory settings in the JVM are pretty small. |
| 04:04.41 | jasonb | crackhead: Try "-Xmx250M -Xms250M" |
| 04:05.13 | jasonb | crackhead: And, if that doesn't help, make those numbers larger.. like 512 each. Keep mx and ms the same values. |
| 04:39.10 | lyken | possibly |
| 05:21.00 | jasonb | hi there lyken. |
| 05:24.53 | lyken | gday mate |
| 05:26.47 | jasonb | It must be morning over there. |
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| 05:27.06 | Phoenix` | I am trying to use jstl in a jsp under tomcat but keep getting the following exception: org.apache.jasper.JasperException: The absolute uri: http://java.sun.com/jsp/jstl/core cannot be resolved in either web.xml or the jar files deployed with this application |
| 05:27.15 | Phoenix` | The box can resolve dns but seems tomcat cant... Any ideas? |
| 05:27.26 | Phoenix` | I have searched google but couldnt find anything useful |
| 05:29.14 | jasonb | What can the box resolve? Just java.sun.com? :) |
| 05:29.22 | Phoenix` | yeah |
| 05:29.26 | Phoenix` | with no problems |
| 05:29.27 | jasonb | Well that should be easy. |
| 05:29.45 | jasonb | From the box, can you get to the page http://java.sun.com/jsp/jstl/core ? |
| 05:30.21 | Phoenix` | yes |
| 05:30.34 | Phoenix` | I get redirected to a jsp but I can get there |
| 05:30.45 | jasonb | Also, which exact version of Tomcat? Which JVM brand & version? What OS & OS version? |
| 05:31.46 | Phoenix` | Tomcat is 5.5.9, jvm is sun 1.5.0m, Linux running 2.6.13 |
| 05:31.57 | Phoenix` | - the m in the jdk |
| 05:32.08 | jasonb | ok. |
| 05:32.13 | jasonb | That sounds like a fine setup. |
| 05:32.26 | jasonb | Which version of JSTL? |
| 05:32.48 | Phoenix` | I thought JSTL comes with tomcat... |
| 05:32.52 | jasonb | Also, did you install this JSTL into your webapp yourself? |
| 05:32.56 | jasonb | ahh.. |
| 05:32.56 | Phoenix` | a version of jstl |
| 05:32.58 | jasonb | nope! |
| 05:33.03 | lyken | heh |
| 05:33.05 | lyken | bingo |
| 05:33.06 | Phoenix` | ah, that would be it |
| 05:33.14 | jasonb | Yup. |
| 05:33.20 | Phoenix` | Book, I have said nothing about extra libraries |
| 05:33.25 | jasonb | That didn't take many questions. :) |
| 05:34.09 | Phoenix` | Where would I find the jar? |
| 05:35.01 | Phoenix` | Is it a typical sun thing where I need to DL a package of stuff just for one library? |
| 05:35.11 | jasonb | It's more of an Apache thing. |
| 05:35.28 | jasonb | http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/ |
| 05:35.48 | Phoenix` | ok, thanks for your help |
| 05:36.07 | lyken | egads |
| 05:36.15 | lyken | time to sit down and write this report! |
| 05:39.39 | jasonb | Phoenix`: No prob. |
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| 07:38.00 | pucko | back |
| 07:38.05 | pucko | *yawn* |
| 07:42.45 | jasonb | pucko: Wow, you don't sleep real long, do you? |
| 07:43.17 | pucko | jasonb, nah.. 7-6 hours are usually enough :) |
| 07:43.18 | jasonb | Hmm, maybe you do. |
| 07:43.24 | lyken | lol |
| 07:43.32 | lyken | and i think 3 is enough |
| 07:43.40 | jasonb | According to the IRC logs, that was like 9 hours. |
| 07:43.56 | lyken | heh |
| 07:44.00 | pucko | yeah, but I've been messing around for like 2-3h too :) |
| 07:44.05 | lyken | +/- 2hrs for preparation |
| 07:44.05 | jasonb | ahh. |
| 07:44.12 | lyken | not wake up onto irc |
| 07:44.17 | lyken | unles he's an addict ! |
| 07:44.20 | jasonb | heh |
| 07:44.34 | lyken | i wake up, have a drink of water, look out the window, then check irc |
| 07:44.52 | lyken | that look out the window ensures im not an addict |
| 07:44.59 | lyken | that 30 second pause, to contiemplate the day |
| 07:45.07 | jasonb | heh |
| 07:45.19 | lyken | and cause i dont have any technology in my room |
| 07:45.29 | lyken | it all stays in puter room or lounge, or entertainment room |
| 07:45.43 | lyken | room is for sleeping and reading thats it :) |
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| 11:34.14 | StarScream | hey guys |
| 11:34.27 | StarScream | new mod_jk connector is awesome |
| 11:34.38 | StarScream | its a lot less latent |
| 11:35.42 | lyken | LOL |
| 11:35.49 | lyken | as opposed to ? |
| 11:35.54 | pucko | potent? |
| 11:36.45 | StarScream | lyken: well i've got a single app the does alot of switching between apache and tomcat on one particular page |
| 11:36.50 | StarScream | i updated mod_jk |
| 11:37.09 | StarScream | to the latest version, and it flies |
| 11:37.20 | lyken | arh |
| 11:37.26 | StarScream | there is alot less time spent switching between tomcat and apache |
| 11:37.27 | lyken | yer i use mod_proxy myself |
| 11:37.56 | StarScream | lyken: what are the advantages / disadvantages of that approach? |
| 11:38.53 | lyken | StarScream: mod_proxy takes 1 line in tomcat and 2 per application in httpd.conf |
| 11:39.01 | lyken | i guess you could say, lots easier to setup :) |
| 11:41.16 | StarScream | lyken: hmm i didn't have all that much trouble with mod_jk untill i wanted a domain to actually just forward to tomcat and have the images served up by httpd |
| 11:41.20 | StarScream | :) |
| 11:41.36 | lyken | why would you serve your iamges via httpd? |
| 11:41.36 | StarScream | actually getting tomcat working with jk i found straight forward |
| 11:41.49 | StarScream | lyken: long story... |
| 11:43.01 | StarScream | basically my app lets lusers make their own websites and the boss wants pages to be written out as web pages |
| 11:43.08 | StarScream | so it all stems around that |
| 11:43.24 | StarScream | but yeh, can you tell me more about mod_proxy |
| 11:43.58 | StarScream | i don't mind mod_jk but the way i set up this particular domain feels like its making mod_jk do something its not designed to do |
| 11:44.00 | lyken | i use it for the student server at work to |
| 11:44.39 | lyken | so i can effectively do transparent jsp/php/cgi/perl web hosting |
| 11:44.55 | lyken | students have a site dir on their user drive and can stick any of those sorts of files in that dir |
| 11:45.04 | lyken | and it'll be rendered by the right backend |
| 11:49.15 | linuxfreck | I dislike the idea of shared hosting with tomcat |
| 11:49.26 | linuxfreck | I suppose you had lots of fun with the security manager? |
| 11:49.27 | StarScream | linuxfreck: i don't have a choice |
| 11:49.43 | StarScream | lyken: thats basically what i want to do |
| 11:49.50 | lyken | yer |
| 11:49.54 | StarScream | so i guess mod_proxy is the way then...thanks |
| 11:49.59 | lyken | i do mod_proxy and mod_rewrite voodoo |
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| 12:04.19 | lyken | StarScream: to be honest jasonb got me onto mod_proxy and ive only dabbled |
| 12:04.31 | lyken | he says apache 2.1 mod_proxy heaps faster than the current one |
| 12:07.32 | linuxfreck | unfortunately their load balancer is broken |
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| 12:08.55 | StarScream | ah ok |
| 12:09.28 | StarScream | well i don't use a load balancer so i might look into that |
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| 13:31.38 | dayjah | hey, does anyone have time to help me out some mod_jk/jni/apache issues? |
| 13:31.54 | dayjah | I get an error message telling me that my jvm could not be initalised |
| 13:34.32 | dayjah | the, slighly edited, error message is; |
| 13:34.33 | dayjah | open_jvm2::jk_jni_worker.c: about to create JVM... |
| 13:34.33 | dayjah | open_jvm2::jk_jni_worker.c: Fail-> could not create JVM, code: -1 |
| 13:34.36 | dayjah | validate::jk_jni_worker.c: can't open jvm |
| 13:34.39 | dayjah | destroy::jk_jni_worker.c: JVM not intantiated |
| 13:35.41 | dayjah | I'm using apache 1.3.33, tomcat 5.0.28, mod_jk 1.2.14 |
| 13:36.10 | dayjah | there is next to no docu for errors in this setup so im guessing errors are infrequent and so im obviously doing something stupid. |
| 13:38.59 | linuxfreck | you don't want to use jni in apache 1 |
| 13:39.24 | dayjah | Why? is that a feature related statement or a personal opinion? |
| 13:39.27 | linuxfreck | use the ajp connector or even better, drop httpd and use tomcat's http connector |
| 13:39.57 | dayjah | we seem to be having issues with ajp |
| 13:40.08 | dayjah | also our site requires php so we need apache |
| 13:40.09 | linuxfreck | well there are very few who use jni, and it's not been tested well in the recent past |
| 13:40.34 | dayjah | we could move to apache2, but i've had bad experiences with apache2 and php in the past - not sure what state they're at now |
| 13:40.50 | linuxfreck | do you have to mix jsp and php pages? if not, use mod_proxy |
| 13:41.08 | dayjah | mod_proxy had more issues than ajp did |
| 13:41.09 | linuxfreck | and apache2 with the prefork mpm works well with php |
| 13:41.13 | linuxfreck | heh |
| 13:41.25 | linuxfreck | the php folks just don't manage to get their stuff thread-safe |
| 13:41.26 | dayjah | we've used tomcat to write the server side to a j2me client |
| 13:41.59 | linuxfreck | well anyway, if you really want to use jk, use ajp |
| 13:42.19 | dayjah | hmm, ajp seems to lose some of the feedback from tomcat |
| 13:42.53 | linuxfreck | it shouldn't, anything specific that it misses? |
| 13:43.36 | dayjah | there is one particular acknowledgement that the server passes back to the j2me client that it seems to drop about 15% of the time |
| 13:44.17 | linuxfreck | great :) |
| 13:44.46 | dayjah | there's no log of a failure in the mod_jk logs - so its complete speculation that jni will solve it |
| 13:45.02 | dayjah | when we were using tomcat by itself the problem didn't ever occur |
| 13:45.05 | linuxfreck | to me that sound more like an error in the webapp |
| 13:45.09 | dayjah | but then the php requirement arose |
| 13:45.18 | linuxfreck | but only proper debugging would show that |
| 13:45.30 | dayjah | switched to apache+ajp and then this problem matieralised |
| 13:48.05 | linuxfreck | I suppose you can't run httpd and tomcat on different ports and/or different ip addresses? |
| 13:48.19 | dayjah | in the worst case this is the solution |
| 13:48.31 | dayjah | i think we're fast heading towards worst case! |
| 13:49.11 | linuxfreck | depends |
| 13:49.34 | linuxfreck | mostly on the time you want to spend debugging it |
| 13:50.04 | linuxfreck | another hack would be to run php as cgi from within tomcat |
| 13:50.27 | dayjah | right, i guess the issue is that we're not writing the app. Launch is in a few weeks and we need to get rid of this bug. easiest solution is that the midlet talks to tomcat directly |
| 13:51.10 | dayjah | yeah - i think i'd prefer to keep php and tomcat apart - it's just a familiarity thing |
| 13:52.52 | dayjah | right, i think thats it - thanks for your feedback |
| 13:53.47 | linuxfreck | np |
| 13:54.33 | linuxfreck | do you run tomcat and httpd on different ports or different ip adresses? |
| 13:57.56 | dayjah | umm |
| 13:58.05 | dayjah | tomcat is running on 8080 as well as 443 |
| 13:58.11 | dayjah | apache is on 80 |
| 13:58.32 | dayjah | i've not disabled the 8080 stuff until i got jni working well |
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| 14:56.28 | joaopaulo | no way to install tomcat4 using the debian repository ? unstable broked, testing broked, stable broked |
| 14:57.13 | linuxfreck | most java stuff in debian is in poor condition |
| 14:57.32 | linuxfreck | and you should use tomcat 5.5 anyway |
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| 15:06.17 | JavaGeek | s/java// |
| 15:06.19 | JavaGeek | :) |
| 15:06.42 | linuxfreck | I disagree |
| 15:07.02 | linuxfreck | I quite like debian, and most packages are in good quality, java is just not free enough for them |
| 15:07.51 | JavaGeek | well, I speak from a java-developer standpoint |
| 15:07.56 | JavaGeek | I prefer gentoo |
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| 15:47.21 | putzel | I tried freebsd... not so good java support in my opinion |
| 15:47.44 | putzel | i use slackware now everything works but i must install all the stuff myself :) |
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| 15:51.30 | slak- | hi, someone know how to set a limit on tomcat logfile size |
| 15:53.55 | putzel | no idea but i guess you can rotate them |
| 15:54.04 | slak- | heh we';re having a problem |
| 15:54.18 | slak- | a process is eating up 5gb of log space in a matter of seconds |
| 15:54.25 | putzel | neat :) |
| 15:54.25 | slak- | i need to restrict it at the server |
| 15:54.45 | putzel | maybe stop logging some of the debug stuff |
| 15:54.58 | putzel | i thinkg there is a log level in the web.xml somewhere |
| 15:55.38 | slak- | no way to just cap the maximum disk use |
| 15:55.43 | slak- | ona log |
| 15:55.45 | putzel | anyway rotate the logs with /etc/logrotate.conf or something similiar |
| 15:56.47 | slak- | heh ok dont have access to that but thanks anyways |
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| 18:36.54 | slak- | hey |
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| 18:39.14 | snoyberg | i'm using gentoo and i just installed tomcat, now i'm getting an error about log4j and appenders, anyone know how to fix that? |
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| 19:49.48 | JavaGeek | snoyberg: what version of tomcat |
| 19:50.45 | smccl | anybody using tomcat and c-jdbc for HA databases |
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| 19:54.35 | smccl | in particular c-jdbc for persistent sessions |
| 19:55.04 | pucko | never tried it. |
| 20:02.43 | smccl | sure sounds smooth |
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| 20:17.52 | Neuronios | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: LauncherBootstrap Why this ..? |
| 20:18.01 | Neuronios | on ./startup.sh |
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| 21:06.58 | putzel | probably classpath |
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| 22:24.57 | Neuronios | putzel, hiii .. what is the correct value for the var CLASSPATH ..? |
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| 22:39.25 | obsidian-studios | anyone have any experience with a proper log4j appenders initialization for org.apache.commons.digester.Digester.sax? |
| 22:40.09 | obsidian-studios | here is my current log4j.properties file, but I can't start tomcat at the moment because of the problem with the sax log appender |
| 22:40.18 | obsidian-studios | link to log4j.properties file http://pastebin.com/356449 |
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