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| 02:35.58 | puff | Evening. |
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| 03:43.33 | boobsRcool | hi |
| 03:43.39 | boobsRcool | tomcat servlet container topis here? |
| 03:43.42 | boobsRcool | topic? |
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| 03:53.21 | TheSteveMonkey | can you run one app while you are running another in tomcat and have them both work right |
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| 04:00.25 | puff | Ys? |
| 04:00.41 | puff | TheSteveMonkey: You need to rephrase that question, as it is I can't undersand it. |
| 04:00.54 | puff | If you mean, can a single tomcat server run multiple webapps, the answer is yes. |
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| 04:01.03 | TheSteveMonkey | ooops typo |
| 04:01.06 | TheSteveMonkey | lets try again |
| 04:01.08 | puff | In all but a certain few cases, the two webapps will not interfere with each other. |
| 04:01.13 | TheSteveMonkey | can you run one app while you are debugging another in tomcat and have them both work right |
| 04:01.17 | puff | The main risk is resource contention. |
| 04:01.27 | puff | Debugging in what sense, using java remote debugging? |
| 04:02.15 | puff | Remote debugging depends on starting the JVM (the java process) in a special mode, so by definition all webapps under a given tomcat server will be running in the debug-mode JVM. |
| 04:02.15 | TheSteveMonkey | yeah or like firing up tomcat in eclipse WTP in debug mode and having another app running on teh server |
| 04:02.44 | puff | However, other than the JVM being slower because it's in debug mode, that shouldn't cause any problems with the tomcat server. |
| 04:03.42 | puff | I'm not really familiar with eclipse. If you're using eclipse as a debug client to a remote JVM, then see above. |
| 04:03.46 | TheSteveMonkey | if you have a breakpoint in one application and the debugger is stopped there does it stop all threads in tomcat, i.e does it stop the execution of the other programs |
| 04:04.04 | puff | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:04.22 | puff | I haven't used breakpoints... hard one to call there. |
| 04:04.30 | TheSteveMonkey | nah, I am talking about 2 applications in the same server |
| 04:04.36 | puff | Maybe ask on ##java about how the breakpoints in debug mode work. |
| 04:05.00 | puff | My initial response was gong ot be "no, the breakpoint shouldn't affect other threasd", then I thought about it and, well, yeah, it would make sense for the breakpoint to freeze the whole JVM. |
| 04:05.04 | TheSteveMonkey | it seems like since they are sharing the same jvm they should block since breakpoints usually stop all threads |
| 04:05.26 | puff | Ask about breakpoints in java debug mode on ##java, your best bet, unless somebody else here wakes up. |
| 04:05.35 | puff | Yeah, that seems likely. |
| 04:05.55 | TheSteveMonkey | I could always just try it -- what a crazy idea |
| 04:06.08 | puff | Sure. |
| 04:06.14 | puff | As long as the second app isn't a production app :-). |
| 04:06.26 | puff | One of the mottos over on ##java is TIAS: Try It And SEe. |
| 04:07.10 | TheSteveMonkey | well thats what I am trying to figure out. If you can debug one app while another production app is running |
| 04:17.42 | puff | TIAS :-) |
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| 07:36.41 | StarScream | hi guys, tomcat spawns like 30 seperate java processes. Is this normal...its only a server for 1 person and its not visible from the internet |
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| 09:26.53 | sarcas | anyone have a few minutes? my servlet is serving the wrong mime type and i can't figure out why for the life of me :( |
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| 15:02.31 | loquace | ++ |
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| 15:10.59 | mymayer | how to detect wheater tomcat is "stucked" and then restart the server ? |
| 15:19.11 | mymayer | how to detect wheater tomcat is "stucked/crahes/hangs" and then restart the server ? (automatically, for webhost reasons) |
| 15:23.58 | linuxfreck | I'm quite sure that there are some watchdog solutions on freshmeat.net |
| 15:24.20 | linuxfreck | assuming a linux or unix os that is |
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| 16:00.09 | rue_mohr | was anyone following my problems over the past few days? |
| 16:01.53 | linuxfreck | rue_mohr: you were the one with the non-functional jrobin stuff, no? |
| 16:02.04 | rue_mohr | correct |
| 16:02.05 | mymayer | how to detect wheater tomcat is "stucked/crahes/hangs" and then restart the server ? (automatically, for webhost reasons) |
| 16:02.09 | rue_mohr | it was fixed by... |
| 16:02.38 | rue_mohr | ln /usr/share/opennms/webapp/WEB-INF/classes/log4j.properties /usr/share/tomcat4/common/classes |
| 16:02.53 | rue_mohr | but oddly enough, when that link was removed, it kept working |
| 16:03.12 | linuxfreck | uh |
| 16:03.14 | linuxfreck | wierd |
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| 16:03.50 | rue_mohr | quite |
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| 17:10.46 | marfis | Maybe there's somewhere in here who can explain the difference between starting tomcat via jsvc and the startupscripts on a unix based plattform? I'm trying to set up a packagebuild for archlinux. |
| 17:19.06 | jasonb | marfis: I believe jsvc would allow you to start Tomcat on port 80 while running as a non-root user. I know commons-daemon does this, and I still need to do a bit of research on how the jsvc binary fits into that picture, but I believe this is the case. |
| 17:19.42 | mymayer | how to detect wheater tomcat is "stucked/crahes/hangs" and then restart the server ? (automatically, for webhost reasons) |
| 17:19.49 | jasonb | marfis: But, when you make your package, keep in mind that Tomcat itself is pure Java and Java developers almost always want a noarch package of Tomcat so they don't have to deal with native binaries. |
| 17:20.16 | jasonb | mymayer: It's very hard to do that because.. what would you test for? |
| 17:20.19 | marfis | jasonb, sounds good, I'll precompile that too, thx... |
| 17:20.54 | jasonb | marfis: If your distro is for exactly one architecture, then packaging up a binary should be fine. |
| 17:21.35 | jasonb | marfis: But, you probably shouldn't make Tomcat run via a native binary by default. Starting it with the scripts tends to work more reliably. |
| 17:22.19 | jasonb | marfis: What package manager & package format does archlinux use? |
| 17:23.04 | jasonb | marfis: Also, please package 5.5.x and not 5.0.x. |
| 17:24.14 | marfis | jasonb, yeap right now there's just support for i386 and some ppc tryouts... default it gets startet by the script now... but I will provide the jsvc binary. By the way it won't build via ant, I just set up the prebuild tar.gz. . Arch by the way uses pacman, an own manager, the disto itself is crux based... (the community will kill me if I won't set up 5.5.9 :-) |
| 17:24.56 | jasonb | heh |
| 17:24.59 | jasonb | pacman!! |
| 17:25.10 | jasonb | Neat. |
| 17:25.26 | marfis | jep ;-) (PACkage MANager) ;-) KEEP IT SIMPLE! |
| 17:26.16 | marfis | jasonb, check out archlinux.org for more information... |
| 17:27.39 | jasonb | marfis: Thanks. |
| 17:27.52 | marfis | jasonb, you are welcome:) |
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| 19:01.38 | [THeBoSs] | can any help me to integrate tomcat into apache 1.3.33 please (windows) |
| 19:01.40 | [THeBoSs] | ?? |
| 19:02.17 | [THeBoSs] | please is urgent |
| 19:05.11 | Valentin- | [THeBoSs] wait |
| 19:05.24 | [THeBoSs] | ok really ty |
| 19:07.21 | Valentin- | http://www.galatea.com/flashguides/apache13-tomcat4-modjk-linux |
| 19:07.33 | [THeBoSs] | but i need to do it in windows |
| 19:07.58 | [THeBoSs] | any help to do it in windows ? |
| 19:10.14 | harpoon | the basics are the same |
| 19:10.37 | harpoon | apache configfiles are platform independent |
| 19:10.46 | harpoon | tomcat is java |
| 19:11.03 | harpoon | so no difference |
| 19:12.10 | [THeBoSs] | i do it all and cannot execute class files ... |
| 19:12.43 | harpoon | that might be a tomcat-problem |
| 19:13.11 | harpoon | did you had a look in tomcats log-files? |
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| 19:20.20 | InsomniaCity | Hi, I'm having some trouble with HTTP basic auth on Tomcat... it just seems generally flaky |
| 19:20.21 | InsomniaCity | If I log in one user, I can't then login another without rebooting the server. |
| 19:20.44 | InsomniaCity | And it just changed someones password in tomcat-users.xml from their password to "null". |
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| 19:35.08 | ceegee | hello |
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| 19:57.45 | ctp | hi folks. a little ot, but you jsp coders, do you know a nice jsp code formatter / code beautifier? perhaps as a plugin for eclipse? |
| 20:00.36 | InsomniaCity | I use MyEclipse.. dunno if it beautifies it |
| 20:04.31 | ctp | InsomniaCity: it doesn't :-( we're 7 coders at this project, so a beautifier should help us |
| 21:01.49 | vinse | ctp: i use NitroX's jsp plug in, just the free jsp part i let the web app stuff expire, it's got a lot of nice features including a very cool design view, dont know what a beautifier is though |
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| 21:02.33 | WaywardBruce | Hi everybody :) |
| 21:03.19 | WaywardBruce | I'm having this bugger of a problem of which I couln't find anything in the docs |
| 21:03.43 | WaywardBruce | but since I'm a newbieI guess it's something very simple |
| 21:03.47 | vinse | sounds like you need a de-bugger |
| 21:03.53 | vinse | GET IT?!?!? |
| 21:04.12 | vinse | cuz it's a "bugger" of a problem! |
| 21:04.17 | vinse | (please kill me) |
| 21:04.19 | WaywardBruce | :D |
| 21:04.29 | WaywardBruce | that's a good one |
| 21:04.33 | vinse | no |
| 21:04.35 | vinse | no it wasnt :/ |
| 21:04.38 | WaywardBruce | OK |
| 21:04.43 | WaywardBruce | you'll get better |
| 21:04.44 | WaywardBruce | in time ;) |
| 21:04.45 | WaywardBruce | :D |
| 21:04.52 | WaywardBruce | now you don't kill me |
| 21:05.16 | vinse | axe ur question! |
| 21:05.20 | WaywardBruce | so the problem is this: Tomcat 5.5.9, out of the binary box, fails to render <% %> tags |
| 21:05.40 | WaywardBruce | <script> </script> works okay, but the <% %> tags just come out as is |
| 21:05.52 | vinse | <script> isnt jsp |
| 21:06.01 | WaywardBruce | oh great |
| 21:06.06 | vinse | it's java script |
| 21:06.06 | WaywardBruce | don't tell me it's PHP |
| 21:06.08 | WaywardBruce | ah |
| 21:06.15 | vinse | so jsp's arent working |
| 21:06.22 | WaywardBruce | good |
| 21:06.25 | WaywardBruce | niw I'm relieved |
| 21:06.30 | vinse | really? |
| 21:06.31 | vinse | ok |
| 21:06.56 | vinse | can you run the samples? |
| 21:06.57 | WaywardBruce | I did turn out to be a complete dork, but at least I'll get my project running |
| 21:07.14 | WaywardBruce | no, tje Tomcat samples including those percentiles don't run |
| 21:07.28 | vinse | define "dont run" |
| 21:07.32 | vinse | error message? |
| 21:07.35 | vinse | displays the source? |
| 21:07.51 | WaywardBruce | sorry sorry |
| 21:08.19 | WaywardBruce | right, displays the source - so I guess I should be after some Jakarta sw that does Java Script |
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| 21:08.29 | vinse | are you running it stand alone? |
| 21:08.33 | vinse | tomcat i mean? |
| 21:08.34 | WaywardBruce | at the point, yes |
| 21:08.40 | WaywardBruce | at port 80 |
| 21:09.01 | ctp | vinse: ok, i'll give it a try. thx |
| 21:09.11 | WaywardBruce | forstly I thought it to be something on the line Apache-mod_jk-Tomcat so I threw tyhem out |
| 21:09.20 | loquace | lo |
| 21:09.24 | vinse | if you are running tomcat stand alone then you dont need that |
| 21:09.49 | vinse | that's the tomcat mod for apache, tomcat doesnt use it at all |
| 21:10.08 | vinse | well, not in stand alone anyway |
| 21:10.19 | vinse | are you sure you're not hitting your apache server? cuz that would explain this |
| 21:11.21 | vinse | although i should say in advance that i cant help you if you are cuz i always run it stand alone |
| 21:13.30 | WaywardBruce | sorry, py boss came along |
| 21:13.39 | WaywardBruce | not, Apache is dead as a daisy |
| 21:13.58 | WaywardBruce | so it's Tomcat alone |
| 21:14.05 | WaywardBruce | should Tomcat do JavaScriupt? |
| 21:14.11 | WaywardBruce | ah, the typos |
| 21:14.12 | vinse | javascript is client side |
| 21:14.28 | vinse | so no |
| 21:14.47 | vinse | it's run by the client's browser |
| 21:14.49 | WaywardBruce | ah |
| 21:14.52 | WaywardBruce | good |
| 21:14.56 | WaywardBruce | thanks for educating me |
| 21:15.13 | vinse | np, that's a common source of confusion for beginners :) |
| 21:15.32 | WaywardBruce | so all I have to do now is find out why the heck my Mozilla wants to do JavaScript when I look at the pages from one server, and doesn't when I load them off localhost |
| 21:15.41 | WaywardBruce | :D |
| 21:15.46 | vinse | ? |
| 21:15.46 | WaywardBruce | but that's my problem |
| 21:15.54 | WaywardBruce | well those are the symptoms |
| 21:16.00 | vinse | so you're problem is just with <script>? not with jsp pages? |
| 21:16.08 | vinse | your* |
| 21:16.40 | WaywardBruce | my problem is only apparent with <%>'s within localhost-hosted .jsp files |
| 21:17.05 | WaywardBruce | that's what it boils down to |
| 21:17.30 | WaywardBruce | hey, thanks a lot for telling me where I should look next! :D |
| 21:17.34 | WaywardBruce | saved me tons of work |
| 21:17.46 | WaywardBruce | and some human dignity in fromt of colleagues :D |
| 21:18.03 | vinse | ok then that means tomcat is not processing them, it's just pushing them out |
| 21:18.03 | WaywardBruce | take care |
| 21:18.10 | vinse | i've never had that problem out fo the box |
| 21:18.30 | vinse | it's not a javascript problem though i htink you still have the wrong idea |
| 21:18.38 | WaywardBruce | um, I'm confused |
| 21:18.45 | WaywardBruce | <%> is JSP right? |
| 21:18.53 | vinse | yes |
| 21:18.58 | WaywardBruce | ah |
| 21:19.01 | vinse | jsp != javascript |
| 21:19.04 | WaywardBruce | so it's very simple |
| 21:19.05 | vinse | jsp is server side |
| 21:19.09 | vinse | javascript is client side |
| 21:19.14 | WaywardBruce | actually my Tomcat doesn't work |
| 21:19.17 | WaywardBruce | :D |
| 21:19.18 | vinse | correct |
| 21:19.28 | WaywardBruce | and now I understand the question if I was hitting Apache |
| 21:19.49 | WaywardBruce | good, I'll get back to it at onece |
| 21:19.53 | vinse | yeah apache would jsut push out the jsp source |
| 21:19.59 | vinse | cuz it doesnt know what to do with it |
| 21:20.02 | WaywardBruce | right |
| 21:20.06 | WaywardBruce | not a HTML tag |
| 21:20.23 | vinse | um |
| 21:20.26 | vinse | not html |
| 21:26.32 | InsomniaCity | Hi, I'm having some trouble with HTTP basic auth on Tomcat... it just seems generally flaky. Once a user has logged in, I have to restart the server to login a different user... and it reset someone's password to "null"... can anyone help? |
| 21:27.09 | WaywardBruce | hey, I think I've seen something like that in the docs |
| 21:27.38 | WaywardBruce | I'll take a look |
| 21:30.47 | InsomniaCity | WaywardBruce: you talking to me!? |
| 21:31.00 | WaywardBruce | yes |
| 21:31.04 | WaywardBruce | and still looking |
| 21:31.39 | WaywardBruce | I know I've seen it somewhere only yesterday, |
| 21:31.44 | WaywardBruce | but I can't find it for the life of me |
| 21:32.08 | WaywardBruce | keywords were "Tomcat blocking after authorization" |
| 21:32.21 | WaywardBruce | also did mention password reset |
| 21:32.29 | InsomniaCity | well... its dodgy at the very least, it shouldn't be writing to the password file |
| 21:33.05 | InsomniaCity | vinse: have you heard about this at all? |
| 21:33.16 | WaywardBruce | I'm sorry InsomniaCity, I can't find it; I'm a n00b anyways |
| 21:33.28 | InsomniaCity | no worries... its given me hope! |
| 21:33.36 | InsomniaCity | at least I know its a real problem! |
| 21:33.38 | WaywardBruce | good luck :) |
| 21:33.56 | WaywardBruce | thanks vinse |
| 21:33.59 | WaywardBruce | bye all |
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| 22:22.26 | vinse | InsomniaCity: sorry dont know :/ |
| 22:24.09 | vinse | InsomniaCity: the one you want to prod is jasonb ;p |
| 22:24.14 | vinse | (sorry jasonb!) |
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| 22:29.52 | jasonb | vinse: Hmm, what was the question? |
| 22:35.24 | vinse | <InsomniaCity> Hi, I'm having some trouble with HTTP basic auth on Tomcat... it just seems generally flaky. Once a user has logged in, I have to restart the server to login a different user... and it reset someone's password to "null"... can anyone help? |
| 22:36.06 | vinse | the extent of my help for this would be something like this: |
| 22:36.11 | vinse | wow, that sounds bad |
| 22:36.20 | jasonb | What realm is that using? |
| 22:36.52 | vinse | he appears to be afk :( |
| 22:37.00 | jasonb | oh well. |
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| 23:40.57 | loquace | gn |