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| 00:44.11 | mlp | in Tomcat 5.5.4 - how do i change the default web root to something like "/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/something-else/"? |
| 00:46.18 | FaeLLe | web.xml |
| 00:51.57 | mlp | FaeLLe: i just briefly looked through web.xml and didn't see an entity that would change the doc root, do you by chance know what the entity element is that changes the doc root? thx |
| 00:54.13 | mlp | maybe a better question to ask is - is it alright to simply delete the default index.jsp etc that comes when you first install Tomcat and place my JSP documents in install_dir/webapps? |
| 00:55.19 | lyken | should be |
| 00:55.24 | lyken | all that stuff is only examples and stuff |
| 00:56.46 | mlp | what about the install_dir/webapps/ROOT? |
| 00:57.00 | mlp | is ROOT safe to delete? |
| 00:57.40 | lyken | i dont have a ROOT in my tomcat webapps dir atm |
| 01:01.24 | mlp | in my install_dir/webapps directory I have: 'jsp-examples', 'servlets-examples', 'tomcat-docs', 'webdav' and 'ROOT'. But in install_dir/webapps/ROOT/ directory I have 'admin', 'WEB-INF' and the default index.jsp page and graphics that you see when you first install Tomcat 5.5.4 |
| 01:03.57 | mlp | i'm somewhat confused on how Tomcat serves up content. It must first look in install_dir/webapps/ROOT for http://localhost/ and if someone tries to go to http://localhost/something/ the 'something' directory can either exist in install_dir/webapps/ OR install_dir/webapps/ROOT/ |
| 01:23.45 | puff | mlp: I don't really know myself, but I would suspect that it checks for mapped /webapps/webappname first, and serves that, else look for webapps/ROOT/dirname |
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| 04:42.29 | mlp | thanks everyone for the help thus far but I need to ask again, does anyone know how to change the Web Root in Tomcat 5.5.4? Someone mentioned web.xml, it might just be me - but I'm not seeing a WebRoot element entity or such in that config file. Any ideas? |
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| 05:42.48 | AndHeSays | mlp: read about the Context tag |
| 05:43.11 | AndHeSays | in the tomcat configuration reference |
| 05:43.52 | mlp | AndHeSays: thx, I'll look into that. |
| 05:54.15 | mlp | AndHeSays: I must just not understand the arch. of Tomcat enough. http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/config/context.html indicates that if I want to set the default base directory for Tomcat to serve / (http://localhost/), I should set path="". Yet if that is true and set path="", how do I specify what the local directory should be for http://localhost/ (e.g. /usr/local/tomcat/webapp/somedir/)??? |
| 05:57.26 | AndHeSays | the path is the URL path |
| 05:57.49 | AndHeSays | it's the docBase param |
| 05:59.18 | mlp | i don't know why I am making this so complicated. all i want to do is have http://localhost/ point to /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/somedir instead of the default webapps/ |
| 06:02.57 | mlp | AndHeSays: so are you implying that the following will do what I want |
| 06:02.58 | mlp | <Content path="" docBase="/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/somedir/" /> |
| 06:03.20 | mlp | s/Content/Context |
| 06:12.54 | AndHeSays | yes |
| 06:20.08 | mlp | lol. now I have a new question. where do I store the context.xml file that contains |
| 06:20.09 | mlp | <Context path="" docBase="/usr/local/tomcat/webapps/somedir/" /> |
| 06:20.36 | mlp | so that Tomcat can parse the file to known that the new Web Root is at /usr/local/tomcat/webapps/somedir/ ? |
| 06:20.41 | AndHeSays | oh my |
| 06:20.50 | mlp | i'm a dope - sorry |
| 06:21.02 | AndHeSays | either put the element in the conf/server.xml inside a Host element |
| 06:21.29 | mlp | the docs say not to put it in server.xml for version 5.5.x of Tomcat :) |
| 06:21.32 | AndHeSays | or it in a file called ROOT.xml in conf/<EngineName>/<HostName>/ROOT.xml |
| 06:22.00 | AndHeSays | yeah, the last one is the preferred way |
| 06:28.22 | mlp | AndHeSays: THANK YOU! Thank You! Thank YOU! |
| 06:44.05 | AndHeSays | another happy customer |
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| 08:42.35 | AndHeSays | lo and behold |
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| 12:01.43 | Roobarb-Work | anyone awake? |
| 12:46.43 | AndHeSays | i am |
| 12:47.33 | Roobarb-Work | If I'm using mod_jk, what happens when tomcat is asked to provide a file that isn't there? |
| 12:47.59 | Roobarb-Work | does it pass the rwquest back to Apache or does it handle the 404 itself? |
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| 13:12.36 | AndHeSays | Roobarb-Work: it handles the 404 itself |
| 13:26.09 | Roobarb-Work | is there any way to get it to pass unhandled requests back to apache? |
| 13:26.51 | AndHeSays | i don't know |
| 13:26.54 | AndHeSays | but i don't think so |
| 13:27.18 | AndHeSays | why do you need that? |
| 13:27.27 | AndHeSays | you can have custom 404s in tomcat too |
| 13:27.34 | Roobarb-Work | ok, is there some documentation somewhere on doing that? |
| 13:27.40 | Roobarb-Work | (custom 404's) |
| 13:27.52 | AndHeSays | it's a standard j2ee procedure |
| 13:28.44 | Roobarb-Work | does it return an actual 404 error code or a 200? |
| 13:29.24 | Roobarb-Work | I have a awebapp (that somone else wrote) which is returning http 200's instead of 404's even though its returning a custom 404 error page |
| 13:30.37 | AndHeSays | in a servlet you can return 200 instead of 404 |
| 13:30.55 | Roobarb-Work | k |
| 13:43.58 | Roobarb-Work | which order do things get handled when you use mod_jk with apache? |
| 13:45.10 | Roobarb-Work | I have a bunch of AliasMatch lines to handle stuff which tomcat doesnt |
| 13:45.23 | Roobarb-Work | and I have some RewriteRules |
| 13:45.33 | Roobarb-Work | which gets processed first? |
| 13:57.27 | FaeLLe | can i use tomcat to process php files ? |
| 13:57.55 | AndHeSays | FaeLLe: yes, if you compile php as CGI and enable the cgi servlet |
| 13:59.57 | FaeLLe | that would require modification to source code ? |
| 14:00.32 | AndHeSays | whose source code |
| 14:00.32 | AndHeSays | ? |
| 14:00.44 | FaeLLe | the php code |
| 14:07.34 | AndHeSays | i don't think so |
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| 14:34.27 | AndHeSays | why would anyone serve php from tomcat? |
| 14:37.27 | AndHeSays | btw otrivin really helped |
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| 14:49.31 | linnuxxy | which is the most pplar eclipse plugins to develop tomcat web apps? |
| 14:49.44 | AndHeSays | i use lomboz and sysdeo |
| 14:49.53 | AndHeSays | i heard myeclipse is pretty good too |
| 14:50.07 | linnuxxy | r they free? |
| 14:50.24 | AndHeSays | lomboz and sysdeo yes |
| 14:50.28 | AndHeSays | myeclipse no |
| 14:50.38 | AndHeSays | but it costs something like $35-40 |
| 14:52.12 | linnuxxy | ok ... is lomboz and sysdeo tow deferent products? |
| 14:53.14 | AndHeSays | yeap |
| 14:53.31 | AndHeSays | sysdeo is for controlling tomcat (start/stop/deploy/unload/reload) |
| 14:53.47 | AndHeSays | and lomboz is for jsp editing, j2ee app template project |
| 14:53.48 | AndHeSays | etc. |
| 14:54.04 | linnuxxy | and servlet? |
| 14:54.24 | AndHeSays | what about servlet? |
| 14:54.44 | linnuxxy | does lomboz support developing servlet? |
| 14:55.07 | AndHeSays | i can't see what should it support |
| 14:55.18 | AndHeSays | a servlet is just a class |
| 14:55.38 | linnuxxy | automation wizard? |
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| 15:28.07 | a4akb | hello |
| 15:28.44 | a4akb | ibot hello |
| 15:28.45 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
| 15:28.48 | AndHeSays | ahab |
| 15:29.02 | a4akb | white ass |
| 15:29.29 | a4akb | :) |
| 15:29.38 | a4akb | AndHeSays: any luck yet |
| 15:29.59 | AndHeSays | neah |
| 15:30.08 | a4akb | lyken: o.O |
| 15:31.33 | a4akb | AndHeSays: applied yet? |
| 15:31.42 | AndHeSays | only in europe so far |
| 15:31.52 | AndHeSays | bayt.com resume stuff is pretty retarted |
| 15:31.58 | a4akb | yeah |
| 15:32.41 | a4akb | while u keep looking, give ur sun certification exams |
| 15:32.53 | a4akb | become a certified java architect |
| 15:33.11 | AndHeSays | this is what i inted |
| 15:33.14 | AndHeSays | intend |
| 15:33.30 | a4akb | good |
| 15:33.39 | a4akb | write a few papers for me too |
| 15:33.51 | lyken | lol |
| 15:34.06 | a4akb | :d |
| 15:34.37 | a4akb | :D |
| 15:34.41 | a4akb | ibot burp |
| 15:34.42 | ibot | ACTION burps loudly |
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| 16:42.09 | a4akb | ibot yawn |
| 16:42.10 | ibot | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 16:48.07 | a4akb | ibot bye |
| 16:48.08 | ibot | bye bye |
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| 17:00.36 | FaeLLe | ibot help |
| 17:00.49 | FaeLLe | ibot slashdot |
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| 17:42.30 | JakWORK | anyone know the internals of mod_jk? seems it doesn't do sensible things with it's worker cache |
| 17:42.48 | JakWORK | so ends up trying to use lots of connections that are in TCP's FIN_WAIT1 state (ie closed in one direction) |
| 17:43.35 | JakWORK | I think it just needs a non-blocking read in ajp_get_endpoint() but would like to run it past someone who's more familiar with the code |
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| 18:35.53 | medusaXX | i am using tomcat4 with apache 1.3.33 (debian) and i want to connect them using mod_jk |
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| 18:36.49 | medusaXX | tomcat4 is responding at port 8180 with a start page, but the apache forwarder displays only tomcat errors |
| 18:37.01 | medusaXX | which i dont understand because it is actually only forwarding |
| 18:37.07 | medusaXX | my mod_jk setting is: |
| 18:37.09 | medusaXX | JkMount /servlet/* local |
| 18:37.32 | medusaXX | but the webserver outputs only tomcat error pages under /servlet/ |
| 18:37.53 | medusaXX | description The requested resource (/servlet/) is not available. |
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| 19:42.30 | AndHeSays | medusaXX: the path in the apache must correspond to the context path |
| 19:43.08 | medusaXX | the context path is set within server.xml ? |
| 19:43.38 | AndHeSays | yes |
| 19:45.14 | medusaXX | thanks |
| 19:45.15 | medusaXX | brb |
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| 20:28.27 | FreemaniaX | Is there anyway to unify realms between tomcat and apache httpd? |
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| 20:35.52 | AndHeSays | realms? |
| 20:36.00 | AndHeSays | as in user realms? |
| 20:36.14 | FreemaniaX | auth realms |
| 20:36.57 | AndHeSays | one way would be to use JdbcRealm (tomcat) + mod_auth_*sql (apache) |
| 20:40.07 | FreemaniaX | basic problem is that management wants a unified login between webapp and a php site running on the same server |
| 20:41.42 | FreemaniaX | I was wondering if it was worth the time investment to utilize jk to connect the 2 that way |
| 20:42.06 | FreemaniaX | the deadline: 24 hours |
| 20:42.29 | FreemaniaX | lol |
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| 21:11.48 | AndHeSays | it's independent of mod_jk |
| 21:12.08 | AndHeSays | i assume you're authenticating the users from db if you use php |
| 21:12.33 | AndHeSays | you can use the same database for authenticating users (at container level) using jdbcrealm |
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| 21:35.12 | cyber-al | hi everyone |
| 21:35.46 | AndHeSays | hi |
| 21:35.52 | cyber-al | i would like to know how to kill a process in tomcat without kill the application |
| 21:36.05 | AndHeSays | you can't |
| 21:36.11 | cyber-al | doh |
| 21:36.29 | AndHeSays | you can stop an application |
| 21:36.34 | AndHeSays | but you can't kill a thread |
| 21:36.41 | AndHeSays | from operating system |
| 21:37.23 | cyber-al | ok then if i have an not stop loop the only way to stop it is to stop the application |
| 21:38.55 | cyber-al | correct? |
| 21:41.30 | cyber-al | thanks |
| 21:43.25 | jitz | how does servlet mapping work? I don't understand the url-pattern. My servlet will be called by an html file. Do I put in *.html? |
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| 21:45.41 | jitz | If I put in *.html for the url-pattern does that mean any html file or only those actually trying to access my servlet? |
| 21:49.15 | AndHeSays | you need a j2ee book :) |
| 21:54.45 | jitz | AndHeSays, give me a hint |
| 21:56.30 | jitz | AndHeSays, I now get an error saying the servlet is not available which makes me think its not mapping but something else |
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| 22:54.41 | neutrino | i'm a new to jsp and servlets; my question: Is tomcat a special standalone version of Apache webserver that supports these features, or is it supposed to run along side apache webserver (developer x86 WinXP machine) |
| 22:59.45 | jasonb | neutrino: Tomcat can replace Apache. |
| 23:00.32 | jasonb | neutrino: Tomcat isn't Apache HTTPD, it's something else, but can do the same job. But, Apache is written in C, and Tomcat is written in Java. So, they're unlike each other in lots of ways. But, they're both for serving web sites. |
| 23:10.25 | neutrino | interesting, thanks -- so is there a jsp/servlet module on Apache HTTPD, or is Tomcat the way to go? |
| 23:11.05 | neutrino | i should say "a way" to go |
| 23:19.03 | neutrino | also, i just want to confirm that tomcat runs the server/container in the same process?? |
| 23:20.37 | jasonb | Tomcat itself runs as one process. |
| 23:20.57 | jasonb | (unless you set up multiple clustered processes) |
| 23:21.32 | jasonb | And, generally, I don't suggest running Tomcat through Apache. I suggest running Tomcat *instead of* Apache. |
| 23:21.35 | neutrino | so tomcat is a Java HTTP Server and Servlet Container |
| 23:21.43 | jasonb | Yes, exactly! |
| 23:22.05 | jasonb | Pure Java, OS binary portable HTTP Server & Servlet container. |
| 23:22.59 | neutrino | hehe, thanks for you help, i'm strongly considering a move from asp to the java equiv |
| 23:23.02 | jasonb | One can compile Tomcat once on one platform, and take those binaries and run them on "any" machine, "any" OS that has Java. |
| 23:23.45 | jasonb | I suggest you switch, but then again, I favor free & better technologies. ;) |
| 23:25.02 | neutrino | some say that the java virt machine is a bottleneck though, i don't agree, but i'm not too familiar with how the jvm works |
| 23:30.26 | jasonb | People who say that don't know/understand Java -- or they're promoting a competitor technology. |
| 23:32.32 | neutrino | i've been looking at some online documentation, servlets and jsp are a great way to go espcially with all the packages already out there |
| 23:32.40 | neutrino | hehe, i'm convinced |
| 23:33.14 | jasonb | I've been using/developing with Servlets since 1998 and it's just been excellent the whole way. |
| 23:33.23 | AndHeSays | j2ee is a whole different story than asp |
| 23:33.36 | AndHeSays | i mean j2ee done right |
| 23:34.03 | jasonb | You're right that there are lots of packages out there to help with JSP/Servlet development.. part of that is because the Java language is broad and featureful and people write lots of free libraries on top of that. |
| 23:36.04 | neutrino | just one final question: so it is possible to run Tomcat as just a jsp/servlet container, and do the http through apache - why is this not recommended? |
| 23:36.20 | neutrino | *apache or other webserver |
| 23:38.58 | AndHeSays | mod_jk is causing a lot of headaches for beginners |
| 23:48.59 | AndHeSays | and besides there's little reason to use apache unless you have a lot of purely static pages that very visited |