| 00:21.25 | levon | time4bed, good nite all |
| 00:40.43 | kylev | pft. |
| 00:41.05 | kylev | I work with brain-dead engineers |
| 00:41.22 | kylev | but checkstyle gives me metrics for *how* brain-dead |
| 00:42.00 | kylev | not only is there an "import com.xxx.yyy.*" in a class in package com.xxx.yyy |
| 00:42.04 | kylev | ... but there are 2 of them |
| 00:47.03 | jasonb | hehe |
| 00:47.58 | jasonb | Looking at info like that makes one painfully aware of human shortcomings. |
| 00:53.08 | kylev | got it working on our FE code last night |
| 00:53.15 | kylev | 12113 style violations |
| 00:53.23 | jasonb | heh! |
| 00:53.44 | kylev | 800 .java files |
| 00:53.49 | kylev | do the math |
| 00:53.50 | jasonb | If only we could automate the smacking of each offending developer as well.. |
| 00:54.18 | kylev | it's almost all ONE guy, of course |
| 00:54.48 | kylev | same guy who implemented goto with "throw new Exception()" |
| 00:55.36 | jasonb | ugh. |
| 00:56.38 | kylev | he's convinced there's no other way to do what he wants |
| 00:57.04 | kylev | and he's the guy with "Senior" in his title |
| 00:57.09 | kylev | which is to say "old" |
| 01:07.39 | jasonb | hey! |
| 01:07.49 | jasonb | I have "Senior" in my title too. ;) |
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| 01:35.33 | ianp | throw new Exception()... nice. |
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| 03:52.45 | Doctor_ | tomcat 5 is awsome |
| 04:03.43 | mod_cure | yep |
| 04:03.50 | mod_cure | installed it the other day |
| 04:13.21 | Doctor_ | me too |
| 04:13.46 | Doctor_ | mine is blank though |
| 04:14.01 | Doctor_ | http://68.48.193.81:8080 |
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| 08:29.57 | levon | morning all |
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| 13:30.28 | Andre | Jakarta tomcat |
| 13:33.26 | Andre | I'm having problems with tomcat 4.1.18, could someone help me out? |
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| 13:33.59 | vakYpollo | is it required cvs xdoclet for axis support? |
| 13:34.49 | Andre | I have it installed on a Windows 2000 Server with service pack 3 and some times the tomcat shutdown buy itself |
| 13:35.06 | Andre | Have anyone experienced this problem |
| 13:35.14 | Andre | ? |
| 13:35.47 | Andre | I tried to see what happened buy analysing the logs, but there is nothing on it |
| 13:36.21 | Andre | Could someone help me on this? |
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| 14:32.03 | {aaron} | yay 5 is out |
| 14:32.18 | {aaron} | 5 doesn't support variable replacement in config files, like 3.x does, does it? |
| 14:32.21 | {aaron} | I've been missing that :( |
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| 15:24.00 | {aaron} | ah yes it does, great |
| 15:26.07 | cilquirm | morning |
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| 15:26.58 | {aaron} | hi |
| 15:28.29 | {aaron} | i'd like to know if it is possible only to override the webapp area, work area, temp area, and logs area, but not the config area, etc. |
| 15:28.33 | {aaron} | i'll check Bootstrap.java |
| 15:36.53 | jasonc | what do you mean by override? |
| 15:36.59 | jasonc | like point to some other path? |
| 15:37.02 | jasonc | if so, sure |
| 15:39.04 | {aaron} | well, you can set catalina_base to a custom location |
| 15:39.27 | {aaron} | but I don't want *all* the dirs generated off that, just temp/, work/, logs/, webapps/ |
| 15:39.35 | {aaron} | e.g., I want to keep a global config |
| 15:39.43 | {aaron} | without copying and pasting it into each catalina.base |
| 15:41.10 | jasonc | hrm |
| 15:44.15 | cilquirm | i think you can specify the TEMP directory and the work, logs, and webapps directory can all be specified in the server.xml file |
| 15:51.27 | {aaron} | it's not in the docs though although I believe you |
| 15:51.34 | {aaron} | i see workDir attrib |
| 15:51.37 | {aaron} | but no tempdir |
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| 16:10.33 | cilquirm | tempdir i believe is specified by the catalina.sh/bat file |
| 16:10.44 | cilquirm | maybe called CATALINA_TEMP |
| 16:10.47 | cilquirm | if i recall correctly |
| 16:45.59 | cilquirm | where can i find documentation on creating a writable jndi context for tomcat? |
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| 17:24.24 | Doctor_ | guys |
| 17:24.36 | Doctor_ | I have a Q about running tomcat through a proxy |
| 17:24.54 | cilquirm | don't ask to ask |
| 17:24.55 | cilquirm | ask |
| 17:25.17 | Doctor_ | I can setup a standard linux proxy for HTTP that browsers can use- is that the kinda proxy tomcat can use? |
| 17:25.46 | Doctor_ | requests come to the proxy, get forwarded to the tomcat server, then the server responds through the proxy right? |
| 17:30.31 | {aaron} | Doctor_: why would you want to do that? |
| 17:30.46 | {aaron} | you want your tomcat to intercept proxy traffic? |
| 17:31.06 | Doctor_ | well- it was mentioned in the tomcat docs taht you can do it.. |
| 17:31.13 | Doctor_ | I'm too lazy to make a router out of the proxy |
| 17:31.14 | Doctor_ | thats all |
| 17:31.27 | Doctor_ | I could just make a router, then it would be a direct link |
| 17:31.43 | {aaron} | i suppose "you could do it" but the point of a client proxy is to serve remote content |
| 17:31.58 | {aaron} | why would you want to intercept proxy traffic and serve it locally? some sort of cache implemented in tomcat? |
| 17:32.28 | Doctor_ | no its like this: |
| 17:33.17 | Doctor_ | nvm |
| 17:33.24 | Doctor_ | lol- I'll just amek a damn router |
| 17:33.29 | Doctor_ | FreeSco, here I com |
| 17:33.35 | {aaron} | client proxy: browser -> proxy -> internet |
| 17:33.46 | Doctor_ | right |
| 17:33.48 | {aaron} | reverse proxy: browser -> internet -> proxy -> other server |
| 17:34.07 | Doctor_ | Tomcat -> proxy -> net is not possible? |
| 17:34.14 | Doctor_ | becasue of the requests going backwards? |
| 17:34.37 | {aaron} | wtf are you talking about, to get Tomcat to use a proxy for outgoing resources? yes you can do that at the url connection level |
| 17:35.16 | Doctor_ | I'm really attempting to get the machine running the proxy to appear as the real Tomcat server |
| 17:35.25 | {aaron} | you want reverse proxy |
| 17:35.28 | {aaron} | just use mod_jdk |
| 17:35.49 | Doctor_ | k I'll look that up |
| 17:35.56 | Doctor_ | tahts a mod for apache? |
| 17:36.00 | {aaron} | yes |
| 17:36.04 | {aaron} | it connects apache to tomcat |
| 17:36.08 | {aaron} | doesn't have to be on the same machine |
| 17:36.21 | {aaron} | tomcat will serve the pages and it will come out of the apache process |
| 17:36.45 | Doctor_ | is that the same as "connecting tomcat and apache" with those connectors I never read about? |
| 17:36.56 | {aaron} | yes |
| 17:37.06 | Doctor_ | k awsome.. I guess I wanted to do that afterall |
| 17:37.07 | {aaron} | browser -> internet -> apache [mod_jdk] -> tomcat |
| 17:37.39 | Doctor_ | if the tomcat dies, does the proxy have ability to show a page of error anyway? |
| 17:37.51 | {aaron} | if tomcat dies it will show error 500 |
| 17:37.56 | {aaron} | internal server error, usually |
| 17:38.13 | Doctor_ | you can have that error and still present a html page, cant you? |
| 17:38.27 | {aaron} | depends on how you configure apache I believe |
| 17:38.42 | Doctor_ | oh.. yah - I actually know that part |
| 17:38.45 | Doctor_ | <-- stupid sometimes |
| 17:39.06 | Doctor_ | thx |
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| 17:42.26 | Doctor_ | btw, {aaron}, if wanted browsers to use that proxy also |
| 17:42.37 | Doctor_ | would it be another application? |
| 17:42.58 | Doctor_ | apache cant use that module to be a proxy for browsers, can it? |
| 17:43.10 | {aaron} | yes it can |
| 17:43.14 | Doctor_ | awomse |
| 17:43.15 | {aaron} | mod_proxy i believe |
| 17:43.20 | Doctor_ | oooh.. another mod |
| 17:43.21 | {aaron} | it can do both forward and reverse proxy |
| 17:43.27 | Doctor_ | k |
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| 18:07.33 | gravitron | hello, I am running jboss-3.2.2 with tomcat 4.1.x embedded. I am trying to get tomcat to auto-produce a config file for apache httpd (AJP 1.3 connection). However, when Iset up the listener in jboss-service.xml, I get a ClassNotFoundException for org.apache.ajp.tomcat4.config.ApacheConfig. I cannot find the class in any of the jar files that are distributed with JBoss/Tomcat... Can anyone shed some light on this? |
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| 18:12.30 | gbryal | Heya... I have copied my auto/mod_jk.conf to a static version I include in my site. It works ok, but I have to type the path to my app. I only have one app in this virtual host, and want to access it at www.foo.com instead of www.foo.com/myapp. I tried a Redirect and it recursed into oblivion. What's the canonical way to do this? |
| 18:14.58 | gbryal | I am using Apache 2.0.48 and mod_jk |
| 18:15.07 | gbryal | and Tomcat 4.1.27 |
| 18:15.58 | {aaron} | um, rewrite maybe? |
| 18:16.18 | {aaron} | just make sure your servlet doesn't use getRequestURL and get confused |
| 18:17.00 | {aaron} | why would / -> /myapp recurse ? |
| 18:17.18 | gbryal | good question |
| 18:18.17 | gbryal | The struts controller servlet is my servlet; I have no idea what it is doing. |
| 18:19.52 | gravitron | {aaron}: any idea on my question? |
| 18:20.12 | gravitron | in the embedded version of tomcat that comes with jboss there is no tomcat-jk.jar, only tomcat-jk2.jar |
| 18:20.37 | {aaron} | gravitron: i have no idea, sorry. just create the config manually' |
| 18:21.14 | gravitron | I've got it working manually |
| 18:21.19 | gravitron | just was wanting a auto config |
| 18:21.37 | {aaron} | did you try asking in #jboss? |
| 18:22.10 | gravitron | not yet |
| 18:22.47 | vakYpollo | anybody using axis? |
| 18:23.43 | vakYpollo | axis + xdoclet? |
| 18:24.04 | {aaron} | i am using axis |
| 18:24.57 | vakYpollo | {aaron}: and what about publishing web services from a EJB? |
| 18:25.31 | {aaron} | no idea |
| 18:25.36 | vakYpollo | it's supposed you have to run Java2WSDL for ws publishing? |
| 18:25.37 | {aaron} | vakYpollo: #apache-axis |
| 18:25.56 | vakYpollo | {aaron}: thanks! |
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| 18:46.55 | camo-work | tang^: hey |
| 18:47.18 | camo-work | it would appear the majority of my troubles stem from mod_jk2 |
| 18:47.41 | camo-work | as I believe jk2 is only for winxp server+ |
| 18:47.48 | camo-work | and as I was using win2k server |
| 18:48.01 | camo-work | it didn't want to work in the slightest |
| 18:50.21 | {aaron} | hurh? |
| 18:51.02 | {aaron} | i didn't know mod_jk? didn't work on w2k |
| 18:51.59 | camo-work | jk2 |
| 18:52.03 | camo-work | mod_jk1.2.5 |
| 18:52.04 | camo-work | worked |
| 18:52.13 | camo-work | I tried 2 different servers and tomcat4 and tomcat 5 |
| 18:52.14 | camo-work | with jk2 |
| 18:52.24 | {aaron} | is there a specific feature of jk2 you are using? |
| 18:54.09 | jasonc | jk2 is not only for winxp sever+ |
| 18:54.26 | jasonc | and I'd be very wary of using jk2 anywhere unless you really need it |
| 18:54.47 | {aaron} | yeah |
| 18:54.57 | {aaron} | jk2 has some extra load balancing stuff |
| 18:55.12 | {aaron} | jasonc: do you know if mod_webapp is going anywhere or was that a dead end? |
| 18:55.18 | {aaron} | i liked it because it was so simple |
| 18:56.24 | jasonc | {aaron}: it was abandoned when Pier said FU to tomcat and left the project |
| 18:56.40 | jasonc | it's been deprecated in tomcat4 and removed in tomcat5 I believe (though don't quote me on that) |
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| 18:56.59 | jasonc | what extra load balancing stuff does jk2 have? |
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| 18:57.54 | MAX_KOOL | good evening. does anybody know if tomcat5 (or 4) can do a serverside redirect from / to /index.jsp, so that /index.jsp doesnt show in the browser adressfield |
| 18:57.57 | witless | i'm losing the SSL connector on our tomcat server; there's a "SEVERE:" error in catalina.out. anyone interested in seeing it? |
| 18:58.18 | {aaron} | jasonc: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/jk2/index.html |
| 18:58.52 | {aaron} | ok maybe not load balancing but apparently related stuff |
| 18:59.07 | jasonc | mostly logging with jmx and improved jni I think |
| 18:59.25 | jasonc | but since it's being refactored (again) to make more use of apr I wouldn't touch it personally expect for experimenting |
| 18:59.26 | {aaron} | jasonc: the config format is completely different also, right? |
| 18:59.33 | jasonc | waaay different :) |
| 18:59.36 | {aaron} | jasonc: you don't like apr? |
| 18:59.57 | jasonc | apr isn't stable yet, so I question the stability of anything that relies on it (apache 2.0.x included) |
| 19:00.04 | {aaron} | mod_webapp should be removed from docs if it is obsolete because it is confusing as to what the latest correct mod is to use |
| 19:00.15 | {aaron} | jasonc: ! but apr has been around for years, no? |
| 19:00.27 | {aaron} | or maybe i'm thinking netscape-pr |
| 19:00.30 | jasonc | and it isn't that I don't like apr, it's that mod_jk2 is being rewritten again after it has (basically) just been introduced |
| 19:01.01 | jasonc | 2.0.2 is the last stable version, the tomcat-dev stuff I've looked at has talked about basically restarting with 2.1.0 and a newer apr dependant core |
| 19:01.16 | jasonc | so I don't trust it atm (especially considering current is 2.0.5 or something like that) |
| 19:02.00 | {aaron} | restarting again? damn |
| 19:02.20 | jasonc | well that's my impression anyway, I'm no tomcat developer |
| 19:02.34 | gravitron | hello, I am running jboss-3.2.2 with tomcat 4.1.x embedded. I am trying to get tomcat to auto-produce a config file for apache httpd (AJP 1.3 connection). However, when Iset up the listener in jboss-service.xml, I get a ClassNotFoundException for org.apache.ajp.tomcat4.config.ApacheConfig. I cannot find the class in any of the jar files that are distributed with JBoss/Tomcat... Can anyone shed some light on this? |
| 19:02.34 | jasonc | so don't take my word as gospel |
| 19:02.40 | camo-work | can anyone comment on their experience with tomcat 4/jk1.2.5/IIS |
| 19:02.45 | camo-work | any major flaws? |
| 19:02.47 | {aaron} | configuring mod_jk brings me no joy, so I don't really like having to do it all over again for new versions |
| 19:03.04 | jasonc | why would you need to reconfigure mod_jk just because you're upgrading versions? |
| 19:03.12 | camo-work | because they keep changing it |
| 19:03.26 | camo-work | registry settings are different |
| 19:03.32 | camo-work | files have different names |
| 19:03.34 | camo-work | and formats |
| 19:03.57 | jasonc | como-work: sorry I was talking to {aaron}, I know nothing of IIS/Windows |
| 19:04.13 | camo-work | yea I was answering for him ;) |
| 19:04.40 | jasonc | I've used the same mod_jk configs (for the most part) since the early 1.2 releases |
| 19:04.45 | jasonc | so I'm not sure I share your opinion |
| 19:04.53 | camo-work | I was refering to |
| 19:04.54 | camo-work | 2 |
| 19:05.12 | camo-work | from 1 -> 2 |
| 19:05.21 | camo-work | and if they are rewriting 2 |
| 19:05.26 | jasonc | ah, well that's a huge shift that I've avoided altogether :) |
| 19:05.40 | camo-work | I couldn't get 2 to work in the slightest |
| 19:05.53 | camo-work | has anyone got it to work on win2k? |
| 19:06.06 | camo-work | iis5.0 |
| 19:06.07 | jasonc | I've gotten it to work, but I never deployed it for anything (and I only work on *nix, sorry como-work) |
| 19:06.20 | {aaron} | it took me a long long time to figure out where to set tomcatAuthentication for jk2 because they moved it from the <Connector> config tag |
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| 19:23.55 | kylev | mornin', jasonb |
| 19:27.21 | camo-work | MAX_KOOL: hey |
| 19:29.23 | jasonb | kylev: Good morning. |
| 19:29.54 | jasonb | Anyone here ever used dbforms? http://jdbforms.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:30.08 | jasonb | I'm wondering what people thought of it. |
| 19:32.29 | {aaron} | Yet Another MVC Framework? |
| 19:33.30 | jasonb | No, actually, it's a RAD webapp tool that supposedly generates Struts-ified JSPs. |
| 19:33.47 | jasonb | It also supposedly simplifies writing database webapps. |
| 19:33.52 | {aaron} | it is all scary to me |
| 19:33.55 | jasonb | heh |
| 19:37.30 | kylev | so Darl McBride is now attacking the GPL as a whole? |
| 19:37.46 | {aaron} | don't make fun of the insane |
| 19:38.08 | kylev | Lessig's response is quite good if you haven't read it |
| 19:38.12 | kylev | http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/001611.shtml#001611 |
| 19:38.16 | {aaron} | yeah i have |
| 19:38.42 | kylev | McBride really needs to have someone review his statements |
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| 20:02.33 | cheeser | here go the updates. |
| 20:02.36 | cheeser | oops |
| 20:02.45 | cheeser | sorry. wrong chan. 8^)= |
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| 21:23.11 | heaps | hello |
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| 22:10.39 | jasonb | oops. 2L8 |
| 22:10.44 | jasonb | poor heaps |
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| 22:10.57 | jasonc | heh |
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| 22:59.57 | Doctor_ | hi guys |
| 23:00.22 | Doctor_ | whats the easiest way to get a JSP app to talk to a mysqlDB on another node just like php does |
| 23:00.31 | Doctor_ | (I plan to make a JSP clone of phpbb) |
| 23:00.51 | Doctor_ | and is Datasources an option |
| 23:07.55 | Mr_Light | http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/printer/jndi-datasource-examples-howto.html#MySQL%20DBCP%20Example |
| 23:08.23 | Mr_Light | please also note connection pooling |
| 23:24.59 | kylev | Doctor_: I recommend using JDBC |
| 23:25.59 | kylev | also, I recommend not doing much in JSP |
| 23:26.11 | kylev | at least write some business delegates |
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