irclog2html for #tomcat on 20031021

00:03.26jasonbhttp://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/config/index.html
00:04.04jasonbhttp://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tomcat/
00:13.49Rush0yes, i've read and reread it 20 times already
00:14.22Rush0my tomcat is up and running, however it doesnt find some classes i have in my web-inf directory
00:14.31Rush0and yes, i tried adding the directory to classpath
00:26.43Rush0so im just wondering if anyone is willing to offer some help..
00:27.06jasonbhttp://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jservlet2/
00:28.04jasonbWhere did you put the classes that it didn't find?
00:28.31jasonbAlso, which exact version of Tomcat?  Which OS and OS version?  Which vendor and exact version of Java?
00:29.22kylev_Rush0: WEB-INF?  Or WEB-INF/classes or WEB-INF/lib ?
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00:37.17ckellstupid Q of the day: What's the user and passwd for the admin tool on a new install of tomcat?
00:37.56Splineit doesn't exist
00:38.05ckellhow can I set it?
00:38.14jasonbhttp://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/06/25/tomcat_tips.html
00:38.35ckellthank you
00:39.00jasonbYou're welcome.  :)
00:40.11Splinejasonb: how's sales?
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00:40.54jasonbSpline: I don't really know yet.   Believe it or not, I have yet to get an invoice showing how many books sold from date X to date Y.
00:41.06Splinehmmmmmm
00:41.14SplineTim O'Reilly will be at comdex
00:41.22Spline>:)
00:41.27Hobarton debian stable can kaffe (1.0.5e) run tomcat 4.0.3, or do I need sun jdk?  tomcat4 package complains no jdk found :/
00:41.42jasonbSpline: I did get one that said something like 30,000 copies sold, but it didn't say in what time span.  :(
00:41.51Splinejasonb: how's friendster?
00:41.57jasonbHobart: Kaffe can't run Tomcat.  At all.
00:42.19Hobartcan debian's package system be told to go get sun's jdk, or do I have to install it by hand?
00:42.29jasonbSpline: Friendster's great.  Lots of fun stuff going on over here..  Quite a challenge, though, with about 30,000 new users signing up every day (not joking).
00:42.44Splinehiring?
00:42.44Rush0jasonb: redhat, tomcat 4.0.3, j2sdk 1.4 .. i have some classes under /WEB-INF/classes
00:43.01jasonbHobart: Don't use Debian's packaging system for Tomcat.  It doesn't work.
00:43.14jasonbRush0: You forgot OS version.
00:43.25Rush0jasonb: http://www.dvdwinkeltje.com/servlets/IsItWorking < works fine
00:43.30Rush0RH 7.3
00:43.42Rush0http://www.dvdwinkeltje.com < errors im getting
00:43.48Hobartbleck, so I need to get sun's jdk, and build tomcat from source, should I rebuild an apache from source to go with it, or any other dependencies?
00:43.56Rush0the User/Cart etc classes are all located under WEB-INF/classes
00:44.04Splinewhy not get the sun jdk and the tomcat binary dist?
00:44.14kylevRush0: you need to probably put stuff under the fake ROOT webapp
00:44.28Rush0hm, any ideas on the path?
00:44.52kylevare you putting stuff in webapps/WEB-INF or webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF
00:45.00jasonbRush0: You should really use a newer version of Tomcat!
00:45.27Rush0unfortunately only 4.1.2 and 4.0.3 are integrated with cpanel right now.. and 4.1.2 gives me even more errors
00:45.28HobartSpline -> no reason, I'll do that ... the binary dists are debian-stable friendly?
00:46.09jasonbRush0: cpanel?
00:46.26Rush0server management soft..
00:46.43jasonbblah.
00:46.50Rush0yeah i know
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00:46.54jasonbsounds pretty hard to me.
00:47.06Splinehobart: the binary dists are everything friendly
00:47.08Splineno worries
00:47.45Rush0[/usr/local/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.3-src/dist/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF
00:47.53Rush0does that sound right
00:49.37HobartSpline -> many thanks, will use that
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00:52.24Rush0any ideas?
00:52.36Rush0i've copied the files there, nothing
00:57.01kylevrestart tomcat yet?
00:57.28Rush0yep
01:26.01HellaenergyAnyone know why tomcat won't serv  <link rel="stylesheet" href="style/style.css" type="text/css">
01:26.14Hellaenergyit won't find the damn stylesheet :\
01:26.44HellaenergyI've tried ./style.css style.css
01:28.11Hellaenergyrestarts tomcat
01:30.01Hellaenergythis is quite frustrating
01:37.45jasonbHellaenergy: Hmm, that might be goofy behavior in your HTTP client.  Which one are you using?
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01:37.58Hellaenergymoz 1.5
01:38.19jasonbHellaenergy: Also, what is in Tomcat's access log?  Is your browser actually requesting the right file?
01:38.22Hellaenergyjasonb: I have had problems with tomcat and paths to files before
01:38.24czervikI am using tomcat 4.1.24 and apache 2.0.47, and I have noticed that I have port 8009 open on my server
01:38.32Hellaenergyits definatly diffrent from apache httpd
01:38.47Hellaenergyczervik: AJP (Coyote)
01:38.53czervikand I can connect to port 8009 on my server from other machines.  Is there a way to lock this down ?
01:39.00jasonbHellaenergy: Well sure.  But, it isn't supposed to be b0rken.  :)  What's in your access log?
01:39.25jasonbczervik: What OS and OS version are you running Tomcat on?
01:39.37czervikRedHat 9
01:39.47czerviktomcat 4.1.24, apacje 2.0.47
01:43.50jasonboh.. yeah.  8009 is the AJP port.  So, in order to "lock it down" you'll need to firewall off that port.  I don't think there's a way to only accept connections to that socket from your apache host.
01:44.01jasonbYet another reason not to run Apache.  :)
01:44.24czervikwhatever
01:44.27Hellaenergywhats a 302?
01:44.38HellaenergyHTTP
01:44.48czervikactually, I am using embedded tomcat, so I guess I have controll over that port afterall
01:45.39jasonbHellaenergy: Moved Temporarily I think.
01:46.50Hellaenergyya its a mod_jk thing
01:47.55Hellaenergywhen I serv it directly from tomcat it picks up the stylesheet
01:48.57Hellaenergy:\
01:52.59czervikjasonb: dare I ask what your web server of choice is ??
02:00.03jasonbczervik: Well, I don't exactly advocate 1 particular implementation for all uses, if that's what you're wondering.
02:00.47jasonbczervik: I just don't favor the ever-so-popular Apache httpd --> Tomcat setup.  It's bad all around.
02:03.04czervikwhat are your reasons for not liking the apache -> tomcat setup ?
02:04.06czervikanyone here familiar with the embedded tomcat "system"
02:04.50jasonbczervik: My reasons for not liking the httpd --> tomcat setup are fully documented in Tomcat: The Definitive Guide.
02:04.57jasonbczervik: Chapter 5.
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02:06.45IRCMonkey_tyutyutu
02:30.53czervikanyone know where I can download the 4.1.24 source code ?
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02:42.28Thib_hi folks :-)
02:50.13czervikso no one here used embedded tomcat ??
02:58.02tang^czervik: umm how about the 4.1.27 source?
03:10.16Thib_hmm
03:10.23Thib_I'm trying to build 5.0.12 from source
03:10.31Thib_I downloaded and installed Ant just for that :-)
03:10.59Thib_I'm on http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/building.html but it seems to me that the instructions refer to people building from a CVS checkout rather than from source
03:11.18Thib_what should I do now that I've got the unpacked tarball?
03:16.33Thib_there's a build.xml in [root]/src/ but I don't know what to do with it, even by comparison with the webpage above
03:17.59Thib_hmm, never mind, I'll just figure out the CVS thingy.
03:18.02Thib_it's okay :-)
03:18.03tang^I'd just run ant in that directory and everything should be built
03:18.15Thib_it should, but I'm worried it's going to build where it is.
03:18.27tang^sure, it will
03:18.37tang^if you get the source, it's up to you to put it where it belongs
03:18.53Thib_hmm, I see that with the CVS-related build.xml, at least you just put it in whichever directory you want and it will build there
03:18.57Thib_so I'll just do that :-)
03:20.30Thib_yeah, it was not worth worrying about the source
03:20.54Thib_I'm glad to have Ant anyway, it doesn't matter :-)
03:21.14tang^that reminds me, I need to test out ant 1.6
03:23.13Thib_I'm not using it actively at this point, I didn't dare use the beta 1.6
03:23.34Thib_(as you can see I'm a gigantic rookie)
03:24.30Thib_:-)
03:24.58tang^I don't use ant nearly as much as I would like, but I've had a problem with one core task
03:25.32Thib_the $CATALINA_HOME variable that appears all over the docs, is it only a convenience or do I actually have to create an environment variable for it like I have to create $ANT_HOME or $JAVA_HOME?
03:29.33Mr_Lightthat just stands for where your tomcat is installed.
03:30.37tang^yeah, its a convenience
03:32.13Thib_okay
03:32.46Thib_I've been installing java and ant and t Apache (httpd) so I've been creating environment variables like crazy :-)
03:36.04Mr_LightHellaenergy, I needed to search a lil more but I found everything I needed. only I couldn't get my port to redirect, aldoh I knew I had the right cmd, so I asked around they had port 80 closed on the firewall where my server is behind. no wonder.
03:38.24Thib_hmm
03:38.28tang^oh that's fun
03:38.51Thib_the CVS-enabled build.xml ran happily for nearly 10 minutes and built lots of things but I can't even find /bin now...
03:40.06tang^there a build/ ?
03:48.02Thib_yes
03:48.06Thib_is that where it is now?
03:48.15Thib_(because I can't even find /bin)
03:48.33Thib_well actually there's build/ directories all over the place
03:48.58Thib_there it is!
03:53.21Thib_oh great, now $CATALINA_HOME is /usr/local/tomcat5/jakarta-tomcat-5/build/ :-/
03:53.25Thib_lol
03:53.41Thib_so much for thinking the CVS-enabled build would be easier ;-)
03:56.29tang^well, it will work, but with a CVS build you really want to build it whereever you normally build your programs and move the finished app to where you want
04:00.16Thib_well there seem to be so many inter-dependent things... just the directory where I started from contains jakarta-tomcat-5, jakarata-jasper, etc. I wouldn't even know how to move them :-)
04:00.20Thib_it's okay though
04:00.38Thib_for the most part, once I set some environment variable, it doesn't matter anymore where it is :-)
04:02.46tang^well, now I've gotta run it myself
04:03.04tang^of course, it'll probably be sometime next week that its done :-/
04:03.27tang^but generally, where you saw ant you should find one build directory. everything you need is in there
04:03.45Thib_hmm, the startup script didn't work after I rebooted
04:03.46tang^I can't say that with certainty though, until I actually build this myself
04:03.56Thib_I must've forgotten to change a variable.
04:10.34tang^hmm, interesting. it tried to build stuff into /usr/share/java
04:12.47tang^and very stupid. download the build.xml and it totally ignored the src I extracted
04:15.11Thib_yeah
04:15.20Thib_that's what I didn't understand either
04:15.37Thib_I downloaded the source but it seems like the only way to build is through a CVS checkout anyway...
04:16.30tang^I did try the source's build. it updated from CVS
04:16.55Thib_yeah
04:18.19tang^now if I can just figure out why it's trying to install into /usr/local/java
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04:50.55tjsHeya
04:51.32tjsis this a good place for newbie questions? or is there some other channel for that in regard to tomcat
04:55.07tjswe have a large commercial application CMS on embedded linux hardware, at the moment its written in c, perl and php. We are looking into a consolidation effort whereby we would re-implement our event system into java, and slowly port all of our other existing code (php interface) to jsp. I was reading that its possible to get tomcat to embed php?
04:56.21tjsIm looking for a migration path, because we cant afford the down-time for a total rewrite, but we can port slowly, as long as we can maintain working product
04:56.36tjsis this possible with tomcat?
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05:01.16heapshello
05:03.00heapshow does the <resource-ref> looks for the DataSource? it looks at server.xml and where else?
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08:13.46bolshAnyone have a decent script for pre-compiling all .xsl and .jsps using Xalan 2.5.1 (pre-deployment, I guess, but if tomcat did it on startup I wouldn't mind)
08:33.15RonsonI downloaded the apache 1.3.27 source, tar zxvf'ed it to /root/apache and ran ./configure --with-apache=/root/apache/apache_1.3.27 (apache is already installed in /usr/local/apache)
08:33.21RonsonBut I get "/root/apache/apache_1.3.27/src/include/ap_config.h:77:28: ap_config_auto.h: No such file or directory"
08:33.42Ronsonwhy...?
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13:35.15carbon60Is there a facility in Tomcat to invoke servlets inside a PriviledgedAction?
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13:59.30carbon60I see that StandardWrapper seems to do this, is it enabled by default?
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14:46.18Lanquinthanks..
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15:21.18solusanyone read advanced Java Server Pages by geary?
15:22.04p3When is the new JSP/Servlet Spec going Officially released?
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15:34.40abrotmani have an issue where about 1 out of about 20 times .. it seems tomcat is throwing an error downloading a file
15:35.05abrotmanit gives an HTTP1.1 302 error .. and says the file has moved .. which it hasn't
15:36.07abrotmanany ideas?
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15:58.04walterHello!, anyone here that knows how to solve NullPointerException when using log method inside a Servlet?
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16:58.45solusyou most likely wont get an answer
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18:02.08kylevfreenode rules
18:02.26kylevfar more disconnect/reconnect traffic than actual questions on this channel
18:04.45Splinethey tell us whats goign on with broadcasts
18:04.48Splinelilo sent one
18:04.54Splinekylev: do you ever sleep?
18:06.56kylevSpline: um, not very consistently
18:07.55kylevI pop in and out here anytime except probably 3am to 8am PST
18:08.06kylevthat's about my most consistent sleep span
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18:18.17ZerionHelp me please!!!!!
18:18.42ZerionI'm trying to configure Tomcat to work with apache and I can't find the proper connector
18:18.55ZerionAll I can find are windows and solaris connectors....where are the linux?
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22:01.59EtriaphIf I embed tomcat in my server, can I mount any contexts in create with mod_jk for Apache?
22:05.19jasonbEtriaph: Define "server".
22:08.55EtriaphIt's a multi-threaded application that accepts requests via tcp/ip?  :)
22:09.12EtriaphI want to web-enable certain tasks of the server.
22:10.47EtriaphI want to be able to server JSPs and Servlets through the server that are capable of modifying and accessing data members of certain objects in the server.
22:11.12EtriaphBut I want to be able to mount the contexts I create with Apache and work with it there on a pre-existing web.
22:11.28EtriaphIs this possible?
22:24.39EtriaphI'm guessing not by the lack of reply?  :)
22:42.29jasonbSorry, busy over here too..
22:42.42EtriaphI figured.  :)
22:44.20jasonbHmm, I think the answer to your original question is "yes".
22:51.12EtriaphIs it as simple as being to access the apps then mounting them?
22:54.34jasonbjk mounts are basically just a URI mapping.  Apache itself doesn't need to have read/write access to any of the content at all in order to do a jk mount (just a mapping).
22:55.36EtriaphBeautiful.
22:55.57EtriaphNow all I need is a good tutorial to maybe be able to have JSPs and servlets access server stuff.
22:56.22EtriaphTrouble is I was doing this two years ago with Tomcat 3.x and the knowledge is totally lost on me for whatever reason.
23:04.08jasonbTomcat 3.x is pretty different from Tomcat 4.x.
23:04.15jasonbMost of what you knew is now wrong.
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23:05.26Rexhi all
23:05.42RexI'm finally here! the place of java freaks, right?
23:13.15EtriaphYou freak.
23:13.22RexI'm playin with tomcat 4 and I'm a freak
23:13.34Rexanyway.. I hade a Q
23:13.49Rexwhy is there html files next to all of my JSP files in my container?
23:13.50Etriaphfreak.eatLiveGrasshopper();
23:14.03Rexnooo Etriaph
23:14.10Rexit need parameters
23:14.21Rexfreak.eat(liveGrasshopper);
23:14.42Rexthat way, you have reuseable code
23:15.08EtriaphWhat if I was implying that a freak eats solely live grasshoppers?
23:15.19Rexwhoaa...
23:15.26Rexthat would be a bad diet
23:15.38Rexok ok.. you win I guess
23:16.09Rexlife.setWinner(Etriaph);
23:16.16EtriaphYaay!
23:16.47Rexok... so why is there html files next to all of my jsp's .. like.. index.jsp has index.html next to it
23:16.58Rexor.. there is an  html file for every jsp file...
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23:17.59Etriaphindex.html and index.jsp are different entities.
23:19.42Rexwell
23:19.45Rexdudes
23:19.48Rexor..dude
23:20.03Rexlemem look at the files to regain my memory on my Q
23:21.16Rexok there are some examples in here .. like sendmail.jsp
23:21.27Rexwhy is there a sendmail.html right there?
23:22.11Rex$yourTomCat/webapps/examples/jsp/mail
23:22.30Rexit appears to be a cache.. but I'm not sure
23:29.14Rexthis place is really slow man.. unlike the great tomcat
23:35.45EtriaphDoes anyone know if Java's Thread class actually defines functionality for Thread.start() ?
23:35.57EtriaphOr sorry, Thread.run()
23:36.03Rexno..not answerin till you answer my Q
23:36.13Rexme.laugh(now);
23:37.12RexI think it haves to
23:37.40Rexhow else would it be?
23:39.28jasonbEtriaph: That's java.lang.Runnable.
23:40.16EtriaphSo it defines run() with no code?
23:40.22RexI read about it.. didnt care enough to remember- I'll get back to threads when I'm really advanced I guess
23:41.03EtriaphIs Runnable an interface or a class?
23:41.12EtriaphHrm, sorry, I'll look at the docs.
23:41.24jasonbActually, it might be an interface.. I think it is.
23:41.44Rexyah its in that big pile of html files about the entire standard set of java libraries
23:42.22EtriaphSo Thread implements Runnable and you extend thread and have to implement run();
23:42.24EtriaphThat makes sense.
23:42.45jasonbThread implements Runnable, so yeah, Thread.java has the definition for what run() does.
23:42.58jasonberr.. _a_ definition.
23:43.50EtriaphNo, I don't think it does.  I think start simply calls run() but Thread probably doesn't implement it.
23:43.57EtriaphYou're left to implement it.
23:46.18jasonbEtriaph: Close, but not quite.  Thread is a concrete class, meaning it does in fact implement everything.  So it wouldn't compile if it didn't implement the run() method of Runnable.  But, its own implementation doesn't do much.  So, you may, if you wish, override Thread.run() in your own subclass, but you don't have to.
23:48.26EtriaphWell, my Thread.run() needs to be implemented or the thread just runs off in a useless loop when I call Thread.start()
23:56.04jasonbuseless is such a relative term.  :)
23:58.34EtriaphIt really is yes, but pratically useless is what I meant.  :)

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