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| 01:47.23 | yt00 | hello |
| 01:47.46 | yt00 | is anybody familir with the webapp module? |
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| 01:48.26 | heaps | wazz up? |
| 01:48.31 | yt00 | i know this is such a question of beginners, |
| 01:49.12 | heaps | did you read the how-to? |
| 01:49.22 | yt00 | yes, I did, and it works, but |
| 01:49.36 | yt00 | that only works for jsp files |
| 01:51.15 | yt00 | for example WebAppDeploy abcd warpConnection /abcd/ and this works just fine, but |
| 01:51.52 | yt00 | but /abcd/servlet/xyz (where xyz is a servlet) won't be found. |
| 01:52.16 | heaps | why not? |
| 01:53.46 | yt00 | those jsp and servlets works fine when the Tomcat is standalone. |
| 01:54.44 | yt00 | but as soon as I connect the tomcat with Apache, |
| 01:55.36 | heaps | maybe your mapping is not right. am on the process of integrating apache to tomcat myself at the moment |
| 01:56.48 | yt00 | you mean the mapping in the httpd.conf? |
| 02:01.45 | heaps | maybe |
| 02:02.04 | heaps | or maybe in the workers2.properties |
| 02:16.29 | hez | hello, I'm still a little new to tomcat, I'm trying to implement a servlet which can accept files via post =) I got as far as breaking the tomcat security privileges ... :java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.util.PropertyPermission java.io.tmpdir read).... |
| 02:16.51 | hez | I was wondering how I can add access privileges to that directory... heck even what that directory is |
| 02:16.55 | hez | ... |
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| 02:27.48 | sandman10_99 | hello, i was recently helped by jasonb about this problem but to no avail. he said uninstall debian's version and install from jakarta. i did. tomcat is still having the same problem, which suggests it is not tomcat's problem... |
| 02:29.48 | hellabot | "sandman10_99" pasted "Fresh Install of Tomcat gives this error when trying to access .jsp files." at http://www.hellaweb.com/hellabot/10 |
| 02:30.15 | sandman10_99 | Please take a look. |
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| 02:56.20 | sandman10_99 | anybody? |
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| 03:08.01 | jasonb | hmmm |
| 03:08.13 | jasonb | sandman10_99: Okay, what JVM brand & version? |
| 03:08.41 | jasonb | I can't stay long, so hurry. |
| 03:09.19 | heaps | jasonb: hi |
| 03:10.09 | jasonb | hi heaps! |
| 03:10.20 | jasonb | What's going on around here? |
| 03:11.40 | heaps | not much.. |
| 03:12.21 | heaps | jasonb: in using mod_jk2 each webapp should be mapped in the workers2.properties? |
| 03:12.38 | heaps | like [uri:/cocoon/*] |
| 03:13.06 | heaps | so if i have 3 webaps i would have 3 of these uri mapping? |
| 03:13.19 | jasonb | Yeah, I think at least three mappings. |
| 03:13.59 | jasonb | There's code in the JK2 codebase to auto-generate uri: mappings for workers2.properties instead of writing them by hand. But, last I looked it was alpha-ish and didn't totally work. |
| 03:14.19 | sandman10_99 | jasonb: sorry, i'm using 1.4.1 |
| 03:14.21 | sandman10_99 | sdk |
| 03:14.26 | jasonb | But, those mappings can be lots of lines long for some webapps. |
| 03:14.40 | jasonb | sandman10_99: Do this: "echo $JAVA_HOME" and paste it in here. |
| 03:14.54 | heaps | is each mapping will have a worker=ajp13:localhost:8009 line in it? |
| 03:14.58 | jasonb | sandman10_99: How did you install Java? |
| 03:15.12 | sandman10_99 | ./opt/j2sdk1.4.1_01/ |
| 03:15.19 | sandman10_99 | ignor leading dot |
| 03:15.26 | sandman10_99 | from sun's site |
| 03:16.05 | sandman10_99 | they have .tar.gz file or self-extracting, i can't remember. |
| 03:16.06 | jasonb | heaps: Well, to tell you the truth I don't really know.. I haven't found any good docs on uri: mappings either, and all I have to go by is examples that work, and there aren't really alot of them. Plus, the uri mapping generator thingy but I really haven't played with it that much. |
| 03:16.40 | jasonb | sandman10_99: So JAVA_HOME should really be "/opt/j2sdk1.4.1_01", not with a dot in front. |
| 03:16.47 | sandman10_99 | yes |
| 03:16.55 | sandman10_99 | irc wants to interpret it |
| 03:16.57 | jasonb | sandman10_99: Also, 1.4.1_01 has some bugs & vulnerabilities. I suggest getting 1.4.2. |
| 03:17.05 | heaps | jasonb: okay thanks. |
| 03:17.07 | sandman10_99 | \/opt/j2sdk1.4.1_01 |
| 03:17.12 | sandman10_99 | nm that line |
| 03:17.12 | jasonb | sandman10_99: Okay. |
| 03:17.19 | jasonb | hepas: Np. |
| 03:17.32 | jasonb | sandman10_99: How are you starting Tomcat? |
| 03:17.51 | sandman10_99 | going to bin and doing ./startup |
| 03:17.54 | sandman10_99 | going to bin and doing ./startup.sh |
| 03:18.09 | jasonb | sandman10_99: Okay, do "which java" and paste the result in here. |
| 03:19.47 | sandman10_99 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.54 | jasonb | hmmm iiiinteresting. |
| 03:20.03 | jasonb | do "java -version" and paste the result in here. |
| 03:20.09 | sandman10_99 | which is not /opt/j2sdk.../jre/java |
| 03:20.24 | jasonb | It's probably b0rken kaffe or something. |
| 03:20.33 | sandman10_99 | but i guess i was wrong in assuming that tomcat would use the JAVA_HOME |
| 03:20.35 | jasonb | Nice OS. |
| 03:20.48 | jasonb | What is this, Debian or something?! |
| 03:21.37 | sandman10_99 | ./usr/bin/java: exec: /usr/bin/kaffe: cannot execute: No such file or directory |
| 03:21.42 | heaps | tomcat does use $JAVA_HOME |
| 03:21.44 | jasonb | blah brooooooooooooooken |
| 03:21.52 | sandman10_99 | yes, but what is this kaffe thing? |
| 03:22.00 | jasonb | It's a BROKEN JVM. |
| 03:22.18 | jasonb | sandman10_99: You're lucky. |
| 03:22.26 | jasonb | But, it'll bite you eventually. |
| 03:22.35 | sandman10_99 | is it only java or wha? |
| 03:22.37 | jasonb | Especially if you use Debian. :) |
| 03:22.46 | sandman10_99 | what does kaffe apply to? |
| 03:22.53 | jasonb | http://www.kaffe.org |
| 03:22.59 | sandman10_99 | kthx |
| 03:23.13 | sandman10_99 | back to tomcat though. lemme delete broken crap |
| 03:23.15 | jasonb | Kaffe is an incomplete, b0rken, open source Java implementation. |
| 03:23.22 | jasonb | err, partial implementation. |
| 03:24.21 | Spline | its funny |
| 03:24.37 | Spline | the official gentoo java guide says they will move to kaffe "shortly" |
| 03:24.37 | Spline | lol |
| 03:24.42 | Spline | as if gentoo java wasnt bad enough |
| 03:25.48 | jasonb | "Yes, we plan to move to an even more broken version of Java.. you'll love it." |
| 03:26.33 | heaps | ppft 1st try with apache2.0.46+tomcat+mod_jk2 failed. its got to be in that uri mapping.. |
| 03:27.00 | sandman10_99 | okay, i know now what it is but don't remember installing |
| 03:27.04 | sandman10_99 | check it out now |
| 03:27.26 | sandman10_99 | which java: /usr/local/bin/java |
| 03:28.17 | sandman10_99 | java -version: java version "1.4.1_01" |
| 03:28.22 | sandman10_99 | now, does that fix it? |
| 03:28.46 | sandman10_99 | if tomcat uses $JAVA_HOME, what was the point in that fix, aside from being cool? |
| 03:29.58 | heaps | huh? what fix? |
| 03:30.56 | sandman10_99 | not fixed.... |
| 03:31.34 | jasonb | Make JAVA_HOME and "which java" agree. |
| 03:32.23 | heaps | i agree :) |
| 03:32.26 | jasonb | heaps: What trouble are you having? Is Apache still not mapping requests to Tomcat? |
| 03:32.53 | heaps | jasonb: this the first time i used mod_jk2 and apache2.0.46 |
| 03:33.12 | heaps | i only have a mapping of [uri:/cocoon/*] |
| 03:33.31 | heaps | 17 [uri:/cocoon/*] |
| 03:33.31 | heaps | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.31 | heaps | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:34.07 | jasonb | That looks fine. Hmm. |
| 03:34.23 | heaps | let me browse the logs if anything glaring |
| 03:34.31 | jasonb | So those requests aren't getting through to Tomcat? Like http://localhost/cocoon/something ? |
| 03:34.58 | jasonb | heaps: What directions did you follow to get mod_jk2 built & installed? |
| 03:36.37 | heaps | this http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&m=105044665228329&w=4 |
| 03:37.00 | heaps | right its not getting to the cocoon/samples/ |
| 03:39.38 | heaps | arrggh my fault, i missed the s in workers2.properties |
| 03:39.44 | jasonb | ahh.. heh |
| 03:39.44 | heaps | its working now okay.. |
| 03:39.47 | jasonb | yaaaay! |
| 03:40.05 | heaps | now next step another uri for a second webapp |
| 03:40.18 | sandman10_99 | jasonb: i can't. one is a path (dir) and the other is a program |
| 03:40.34 | sandman10_99 | which java: /opt/j2sdk1.4.1_01/jre/bin/java |
| 03:41.16 | jasonb | sandman10_99: I just mean that "which java" should be a path inside of JAVA_HOME.. they should agree in that way. |
| 03:41.38 | sandman10_99 | echo $JAVA_HOME: /opt/j2sdk1.4.1_01 |
| 03:41.42 | sandman10_99 | yeah yeah |
| 03:41.44 | sandman10_99 | they are good now |
| 03:41.56 | jasonb | sandman10_99: So does Tomcat run now? |
| 03:43.40 | sandman10_99 | nope |
| 03:43.49 | jasonb | Now what does it do? |
| 03:43.52 | sandman10_99 | http://hera.sandmansdreamworld.com:8080/ |
| 03:44.09 | sandman10_99 | jsp files don't compile as they should (when first viewed) |
| 03:44.14 | sandman10_99 | tomcat runs fine |
| 03:44.21 | sandman10_99 | and servlets run and load fine |
| 03:44.33 | sandman10_99 | but the jsp file don't work cause they throw exceptions |
| 03:44.42 | sandman10_99 | with the debian version, it was same story |
| 03:44.46 | jasonb | sandman10_99: Did you in fact remove the kaffe distribution from your box? |
| 03:45.24 | sandman10_99 | apt-get remove kaffe -- no kaffe installed then i did a manual rm /usr/local/bin/java-vm (or whatever it was) |
| 03:45.44 | sandman10_99 | and it removed it. |
| 03:45.49 | jasonb | Or maybe it's just called "java-vm"?? |
| 03:45.55 | jasonb | Something really stupid. |
| 03:46.06 | sandman10_99 | also, i never installed kaffe personally (must of been a dependency?) |
| 03:46.10 | sandman10_99 | yes, i removed |
| 03:46.34 | sandman10_99 | hey! |
| 03:46.37 | sandman10_99 | clean install. |
| 03:46.38 | jasonb | sandman10_99: I'm asking you if you removed a debian package named "java-vm" or looked for it? |
| 03:46.43 | sandman10_99 | errr. of tomcat. |
| 03:47.24 | jasonb | also, do a "which kaffe" or "which kjc" and see if that says anything. |
| 03:51.50 | sandman10_99 | found a /etc/java-vm and deleted. looking for kaffe files. |
| 03:51.55 | sandman10_99 | none found |
| 03:52.10 | sandman10_99 | which kaffe and which kjc = "" |
| 03:52.12 | sandman10_99 | nadda |
| 03:52.30 | sandman10_99 | so its dead |
| 03:52.54 | heaps | the sample jsp work or not? |
| 03:53.05 | jasonb | so what I'd like to know is what package was that java-vm thing from? And, I'd like to remove it after finding out the name of the package. |
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| 03:53.41 | jasonb | sandman10_99: Also do a "which javac".. that should point to a javac inside $JAVA_HOME. |
| 03:54.17 | sandman10_99 | which javac = /opt/j2sdk1.4.1_01/bin/javac |
| 03:56.11 | jasonb | ok. |
| 03:56.26 | sandman10_99 | so friggin frustrating |
| 03:56.41 | sandman10_99 | you taken a look at it via link yet? |
| 03:56.51 | sandman10_99 | http://hera.sandmansdreamworld.com:8080/ |
| 03:56.58 | sandman10_99 | see the exception? |
| 03:57.06 | jasonb | shut down tomcat and do a ps to make SURE there isn't already one running.. like ps ax | grep java AND ps ax | grep kaffe AND ps ax | grep java-vm and once you're sure it's not running, start a new Tomcat. |
| 03:58.04 | jasonb | Yes, I've seen the link and the exception. It looks like a kaffe thing to me, but it could be caused by other things too.. either way, it demonstrates some brokenness on your machine. |
| 03:59.00 | sandman10_99 | i guess i'm up for a reinstall soon anyway. |
| 03:59.07 | sandman10_99 | this was one of my first linux boxes |
| 03:59.11 | jasonb | Ugh. |
| 03:59.19 | sandman10_99 | and i may have maked some mistakes |
| 03:59.33 | jasonb | That makes me feel better! As soon as we get it working you're going to reinstall the OS and start over. :) |
| 03:59.51 | sandman10_99 | lol |
| 03:59.54 | sandman10_99 | no! |
| 03:59.59 | sandman10_99 | that's if we don't get it going |
| 04:00.11 | sandman10_99 | hope: i found that tomcat was still runnin even after stop |
| 04:00.16 | sandman10_99 | so i killed java processes |
| 04:00.17 | jasonb | You're better off nuking that anyway. |
| 04:00.25 | sandman10_99 | no kaffe or java-vm |
| 04:00.30 | sandman10_99 | restarting tomcat |
| 04:00.33 | jasonb | Ok.. good. |
| 04:01.19 | sandman10_99 | nope |
| 04:01.21 | sandman10_99 | hmm. |
| 04:01.31 | jasonb | Okay, welp, I'm heading home now. |
| 04:01.38 | sandman10_99 | oh well, i won't ask you to help with this one no more |
| 04:01.45 | sandman10_99 | thanks for what you did so far. |
| 04:01.56 | sandman10_99 | i did find a few mentions on teh internet of this one |
| 04:02.03 | sandman10_99 | it was actually submitted as bug |
| 04:02.11 | sandman10_99 | but they said it was a configuration prob. |
| 04:02.20 | jasonb | You're welcome. I hope you can fix it somehow, but I think it's somewhat of a waste since if your OS is old (or Debian!) it's probably crufty/insecure anyway. |
| 04:02.21 | sandman10_99 | (tomcat people) |
| 04:02.45 | sandman10_99 | yah, but it's for testing anyway. |
| 04:02.58 | sandman10_99 | imagine if i had tried to install and goofed up on good systsem |
| 04:03.02 | sandman10_99 | them i would be pissed. |
| 04:03.09 | sandman10_99 | hard to undo goofups |
| 04:03.17 | jasonb | Well, if it was a good system you wouldn't have spent nearly as long fixing it. |
| 04:03.18 | sandman10_99 | take Windows, for example. |
| 04:03.38 | jasonb | Oh well. I gotta take off. Cheers.. |
| 04:03.43 | sandman10_99 | later |
| 04:04.36 | heaps | bye jasonb |
| 04:04.45 | jasonb | L8r heaps! |
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| 04:18.45 | heaps | got it working..darn fat fingers |
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| 14:36.44 | JimTonic | is there somebody who knows about org.apache.jasper.JspC? |
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| 14:45.28 | Hellaenergy | morning all |
| 14:45.35 | JimTonic | hi |
| 14:48.04 | JimTonic | do you have any knowledge about JspC? |
| 14:51.24 | JimTonic | well, not much to do here I guess... cya |
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| 15:35.50 | Hellaenergy | hello |
| 15:36.37 | sergeantMacMan | Hellaenergy: hello |
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| 15:42.48 | BMania__ | lol |
| 15:43.24 | BMania__ | The sign of a great project, things are running well, so no one is discussing anything |
| 15:45.51 | sergeantMacMan | or.....we are all pulling our hair out with no time to chat! ;-) |
| 15:47.01 | BMania__ | :) |
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| 16:34.55 | sergeantMacMan | why? I have mapped a uri to /crn/web/images/* and my jsp pages will not load any images. |
| 16:40.23 | Hellaenergy | jasonb: I know I've asked you this before but what servlet/jsp j2ee webhosting company do you recommend |
| 16:40.29 | Hellaenergy | or anyone for that matter |
| 16:43.33 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: I really don't know of any. I never needed to know that.. But, I'd be interested in seeing URLs to their sites. |
| 16:43.56 | Hellaenergy | http://www.mmaweb.net/ |
| 16:44.38 | Hellaenergy | I wonder who hosts the eclipse site |
| 16:44.42 | Hellaenergy | or netbeans |
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| 16:48.19 | sethl | hello, is there a way to include tomcat's context config snippet inside the war file? I'd like to deploy both as one, but haven't been able to do it. any tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks! |
| 16:48.21 | sergeantMacMan | jasonb: does averyone have as big of an issue with mod_jk2 as i am having? |
| 16:48.45 | sethl | I need the context xml snippet to configure my security realm stuff |
| 16:49.46 | Spline | hella: I bet netbeans.org has dedicated servers hosted by sun or collabnet |
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| 17:06.46 | jasonb | Spline: CollabNet hosts the netbeans.org servers. |
| 17:07.20 | jasonb | death2jk2: Yeah, it's quite troubled. Basically everyone has problems with it. |
| 17:08.24 | jasonb | death2jk2: In our book, we offer several choices of hooking Apache httpd up to Tomcat, and another one that you might want to consider (that's covered in the book) is mod_proxy. It's much easier to set up. |
| 17:09.02 | jasonb | death2jk2: There are ways of debugging mod_jk2, but it doesn't always work, and it's not necessarily easy to do. |
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| 17:13.14 | sethl | I found it, I can place the context.xml inside the meta-inf of the war |
| 17:19.10 | berthold | hi |
| 17:19.19 | berthold | is there someone? |
| 17:19.54 | berthold | i've got a problem under mac os x |
| 17:20.23 | berthold | in fact, its's a general problem with jsp |
| 17:24.25 | Spline | in that case, i suggest you talk to sun :) |
| 17:25.36 | berthold | so you know it? |
| 17:25.42 | Spline | no |
| 17:25.49 | Spline | but JSP is sun's spec |
| 17:25.57 | Spline | if its got a problem, the expert group needs to hear it |
| 17:25.57 | berthold | ok |
| 17:26.06 | berthold | but it-s a problem with tomcat |
| 17:26.14 | Spline | oh |
| 17:26.15 | Spline | thats different |
| 17:26.25 | berthold | yes |
| 17:26.32 | berthold | i can't deploy my beans using jsp |
| 17:26.43 | berthold | with tomcat 4.1.24 |
| 17:27.11 | berthold | i can compile one class |
| 17:27.13 | Spline | did you read your error log? |
| 17:27.30 | berthold | but another class that refers to that class doesn't find my first class |
| 17:27.35 | berthold | even with a path |
| 17:27.47 | berthold | yes |
| 17:28.07 | Spline | JSPs will only see classes that are in WEB-INF/classes or WEB-INF/lib/*.jar |
| 17:28.10 | berthold | even with all classes in a package |
| 17:28.38 | berthold | i know but my class is in Web-inf/classes! |
| 17:28.54 | berthold | but the compiler doesn't find it |
| 17:29.38 | berthold | forget the jsp |
| 17:29.59 | berthold | it is my bean i can't compile |
| 17:30.34 | Spline | oh |
| 17:30.45 | Spline | well compile-time classpaths are a different issue than runtime classpaths |
| 17:30.50 | Spline | ask about that in #java :) |
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| 17:31.23 | berthold | actually i did compile it one day, but after my jsp didn't find it anyway |
| 17:32.09 | Spline | are you compiling jsps with jspc? |
| 17:32.19 | berthold | no, with javac |
| 17:32.29 | Spline | jsps don't compile with javac |
| 17:32.36 | Spline | you just copy them into your webapp and let tomcat do that |
| 17:32.43 | berthold | on a sun's forum, they seem to say that it's a package problem |
| 17:32.50 | Spline | could be |
| 17:33.20 | berthold | on windows javac compiled my jsps |
| 17:33.42 | berthold | actually tomcat did |
| 17:33.54 | berthold | bu it was working |
| 17:34.00 | berthold | with tomcat 3.3 |
| 17:34.11 | berthold | bu not with tomcat 4.1.24 |
| 17:34.20 | Spline | make sure your classes are in the appropriate directory structure for their package names in WEB-INF/classes |
| 17:34.37 | Spline | also, make sure WEB-INF is capitalized correctly on non-windows |
| 17:34.47 | berthold | it is Web-inf/classes/myapp? |
| 17:35.00 | berthold | i write Web-inf |
| 17:35.03 | Spline | nope |
| 17:35.04 | Spline | WEB-INF |
| 17:35.16 | berthold | are you sure? |
| 17:35.19 | Spline | aye |
| 17:35.22 | Spline | check the j2ee spec |
| 17:35.27 | berthold | ok |
| 17:35.29 | berthold | thanks |
| 17:35.49 | berthold | but even if i do javac -classpath /Web-inf/classes/myapp? |
| 17:37.01 | berthold | ok, thanks |
| 17:37.05 | berthold | bye |
| 17:37.12 | Spline | dont use javac |
| 17:37.20 | Spline | ah well |
| 17:37.53 | randrew | i can't deploy my beans very funny |
| 17:38.46 | Spline | i tried |
| 17:38.50 | Spline | honest attempt |
| 17:41.38 | randrew | Spline: I've noticed that people really don't like to read the spec. |
| 17:42.38 | Spline | i dont know why |
| 17:42.45 | Spline | maybe they tried to learn XML from the w3c spec :) |
| 17:42.57 | Spline | Thats how I learned XML schema. Ugh. |
| 17:43.22 | randrew | the 2.2 one isn't so bad, and is quite useful |
| 17:43.30 | reynir | *yawn* |
| 17:49.29 | death2jk2 | jasonb: will mood_proxy run with apache 2? |
| 17:53.28 | randrew | death2jk2: mod_proxy is included with apache2 |
| 17:54.15 | randrew | death2jk2: http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/mod_proxy.html |
| 17:54.40 | death2jk2 | randrew: thanks. I just didn't see it in apache2/modules |
| 17:55.38 | randrew | death2jk2: You may need to choose to build it explicitly. If you don't see it in output of httpd -l or in modules/ maybe it wasn't built. |
| 17:56.19 | death2jk2 | jandrew: thanks. I'll poke thru it. |
| 17:56.23 | randrew | death2jk2: some of the Cocoon project folks are fans of the mod_proxy approach. http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ApacheModProxy |
| 17:56.48 | death2jk2 | randrew: thanks. |
| 18:13.27 | death2jk2 | randrew: might sound dumb....I built apache, but I don't have mod_prox.so......how do I tell make to build the module? |
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| 18:32.21 | death2jk2 | randrew: never mind....--enable-mods-shared=all |
| 18:42.12 | death2jk2 | ok....now I am going to shoot myself in the head! |
| 18:42.41 | death2jk2 | I have enabled mod_proxy to be built. it has built all the mods BUT mod_proxy. what am I doing wrong? |
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| 19:05.09 | death2jk2 | help I am pulling my hair out! |
| 19:06.20 | death2jk2 | why does ./configure --enable-mod_proxy=shared make make install not make the mod_proxy.so |
| 19:11.43 | Hellaenergy | sergeantMacMan, do you have --enable-module=so in that configure? |
| 19:11.55 | sergeantMacMan | yes. |
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| 19:13.27 | sergeantMacMan | I think I need to type --enable-proxy=shared rather than --enable-mod_proxy |
| 19:13.47 | jasonb | w00 h00! Tomcat: The Definitive Guide is now up on Safari! http://safari.oreilly.com/?XmlId=0-59600-318-8 |
| 19:15.14 | sergeantMacMan | jasonb: still pushing the book, eh? |
| 19:16.53 | jasonb | sergeantMacMan: I just wanted it up on the web so people could read it when they need it. Ordering it and having it shipped takes at least a day, and that's too long for many people. |
| 19:17.32 | jasonb | It's now 100% available online. |
| 19:17.36 | sergeantMacMan | jasonb: just kidding! I am looking forward to getting your book! |
| 19:17.52 | jasonb | Thanks. :) |
| 19:18.20 | sergeantMacMan | jasonb: I just hit the url now. so far the preface looks good. ;-) |
| 19:20.46 | jasonb | Thanks. Lots of content is released on there now.. including example code! |
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| 19:41.56 | Spline | Hella: where did hellabot go? |
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| 20:01.58 | sergeantMacMan | I have built mod_proxy and have it configured (I think) but cannot get it to pass off to tomcat. any ideas? |
| 20:11.41 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: what ProxyPass lines are in your conf and what happens? |
| 20:13.07 | sergeantMacMan | I'll use the paste server |
| 20:15.11 | hellabot | "sergeantMacMan" pasted "ProxyPass and result(via browser)" at http://www.hellaweb.com/hellabot/12 |
| 20:22.35 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: try just ProxyPass /crn/ http://localhost:8088/crn/web/ |
| 20:24.25 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: also, you can check your tomcat log to find out if the request got passed to Tomcat. That would help you to know if the 'forbidden' response came from Apache or Tomcat. |
| 20:26.05 | sergeantMacMan | randrew: thanks. I'll start there. |
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| 20:31.37 | sergeantMacMan | randrew: I changed the ProxyPass lines and still no good. Also, the forbidden appears to be comming from Apache. |
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| 20:35.13 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: are there restrictions on access to your tomcat? |
| 20:35.29 | sergeantMacMan | randrew: not that I know of. |
| 20:36.21 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: tomcat is running? |
| 20:37.06 | sergeantMacMan | randrew: yes, I checked that. It had me wondering, as well. |
| 20:37.38 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: is it on same host as apache? |
| 20:37.49 | sergeantMacMan | randrew:yes |
| 20:40.20 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: unless you changed the ip address included in your hellabot paste, there's some access restriction. There's no response to http://that_ip:8088/ |
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| 20:43.18 | Spline | hellabot is now at http://www.hellaweb.com/hellabot |
| 20:58.07 | randrew | sergeantMacMan: looks like you got it :) |
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| 21:06.46 | litheum | if i'm running multiple virtual server on a single instance of tomcat am i better off using a different appbase for each one or specifying the same appbase and giving each Host the default context it should use with a null path? |
| 21:07.45 | sergeantMacMan | randrew: it is working like a dream!!!!!! thanks for your help. |
| 21:08.02 | sergeantMacMan | jasonb: thanks for your help, as well. |
| 21:11.12 | litheum | hmm i just had an interesting idea.. if i put all of my webapps in one directory and make xml config files for their Contexts, i can make symlinks to those xml files from the appbase directories of the Hosts that should use them, right? |
| 21:11.26 | litheum | that is probably the easiest way to deploy a webapp across hosts |
| 21:11.35 | litheum | or is doing that a fundamentally bad idea for some reason? |
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| 21:19.31 | Hellaenergy | Spline: I just got your memo :) |
| 21:19.34 | Hellaenergy | Thanks |
| 21:19.52 | Spline | hah |
| 21:19.57 | Spline | i dont remember what I memoed you |
| 21:20.09 | Spline | i remember that it was fairly time-sensitive though |
| 21:20.11 | Spline | ah well |
| 21:20.23 | Spline | i just wanted to see it work to be honest :) |
| 21:20.26 | Hellaenergy | "Welcome Back" |
| 21:20.32 | Spline | heh |
| 21:22.55 | jasonb | sergeantMacMan: No problem. I'm glad that's working for you! |
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| 21:29.56 | fluke | hello all! |
| 21:33.21 | fluke | does anyone know of an alternative to xalan for building tomcat (docs..) ? it keeps throwing a NullPointerException, but when I restart 'ant dist' it goes a bit further and bombs on another file :-/ |
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| 21:46.42 | fluke | woohoo! build successful :) |
| 21:56.03 | deluxe | fluke: how come? |
| 21:56.51 | fluke | deluxe sorry? |
| 21:57.24 | fluke | after restarting the build enough times, it finally gets over producing the html files all around and eventually the 'ant dist' completes successfully |
| 21:57.48 | deluxe | thx, good to know ;-) |
| 21:58.00 | jasonb | It took a few tries to get up the xslt hill! :)) |
| 21:58.08 | fluke | I've seen some patches for ant on mailing lists but I'm not sure if the prob is with xalan or ant itself |
| 21:58.19 | jasonb | xalan. |
| 21:58.27 | fluke | other people suggested using something else than xalan (saxon?) |
| 21:59.01 | fluke | jasonb I could have used the precompiled binary but I wanted to install it from source and choose which components I'd put in.. |
| 21:59.15 | jasonb | fluke: Sure. I do that too. |
| 21:59.21 | jasonb | fluke: That's what OSS is all about. |
| 21:59.25 | fluke | now let's fight with jk2.. (or did it get compiled automagically?) |
| 22:00.06 | fluke | jasonb yup. I usually compile the mission critical parts from source.. for a web server I'll compile apache from source.. for another server where the web server is only used for some admin interface, I don't really care.. |
| 22:01.22 | fluke | hmm I think I'll go with mod_webapp again.. config is so much simpler than jk2 :) |
| 22:05.34 | Hellaenergy | fluke: STOP! |
| 22:05.38 | Hellaenergy | don't do it |
| 22:06.03 | fluke | Hellaenergy stop what? compiling mod_webapp ? |
| 22:06.06 | jasonb | youuuuuuuullll be soooooooooooooooooorrryyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 22:06.40 | Hellaenergy | fluke: use mod_jk2 |
| 22:06.59 | fluke | hmmm.. I have some successful stories using webapp.. well I don't think I control well enough how many threads/connections apache2 opens to tomcat though |
| 22:07.00 | Hellaenergy | jasonb: do you really use htmlcomendium.org? |
| 22:07.21 | Hellaenergy | jasonb: do you really use htmlcompendium.org? |
| 22:08.19 | fluke | Hella very quickly, why? |
| 22:08.38 | Hellaenergy | Because it is still supported |
| 22:08.58 | Hellaenergy | mod_webapp is maintained by one dude |
| 22:09.00 | fluke | and WARP or webapp isn't/won't be? |
| 22:09.37 | Hellaenergy | No one uses it |
| 22:09.54 | Hellaenergy | when was the latest version put out? |
| 22:09.59 | fluke | aah. well, we use it (so far) :) |
| 22:10.29 | fluke | hmm not sure. it works quite well with apache2, but maybe the fact that it uses APR helps.. |
| 22:15.57 | fluke | could someone help me find the docs on how to compile jk2, please? |
| 22:19.12 | fluke | hmm, looks like the docs produced by xalan on my system are bogus :-/ (although it did go through without errors, many html files are bad..) |
| 22:21.33 | jasonb | fluke: About mod_jk2: there aren't any good docs for it on the public web. But, I did fully document it in Tomcat: The Definitive Guide. |
| 22:22.03 | fluke | jasonb yeah, I just found out about it today.. I got the book on struts on friday :) (I _love_ ORA books) |
| 22:22.29 | heaps | A note from Pier that wrote mod_webapp |
| 22:22.32 | fluke | I just found out the buildconf.sh in jk/native2, I guess that's it.. using --with-apxs2 (lets try) |
| 22:22.40 | heaps | http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ApacheModProxy |
| 22:22.48 | jasonb | fluke: You should get a Safari subscription.. you could just pull it up on the web, plus do text searches through all ORA books.. that rocks. |
| 22:23.26 | fluke | jasonb I'm not familiar with that service, but I'll look into it.. |
| 22:23.39 | fluke | to me, 'Safari' is a browser made by Apple :) |
| 22:24.07 | litheum | the safari books thing has been around longer than the browser |
| 22:24.25 | litheum | hmm is there a way to redefine the name of the ROOT webapp for a paticular host? |
| 22:25.54 | fluke | aah.. good old autoconf+make .. |
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| 22:27.26 | jasonb | fluke: Apple named that crappy browser *after* http://Safari.oreilly.com was already up and popular for quite some time. |
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| 22:31.51 | fluke | cool. I just subscribed |
| 22:32.15 | jasonb | Awesome.. I think you'll like it.. it brings all the books to the web where they belong! |
| 22:32.21 | fluke | I'll probably get the deadtree edition this week anyway |
| 22:33.13 | fluke | and possibly the Java Servlet Programming too.. (even though I'm not really coding, just the sysadmin..) |
| 22:33.27 | Hellaenergy | I still should claim my 15 days |
| 22:33.43 | jasonb | 15 days? |
| 22:34.32 | litheum | unfortunately a lot of the o'reilly books that i want to read aren't in safar for whatever reason |
| 22:34.38 | litheum | i can't think of them right now, but there have been many of them over time |
| 22:35.07 | Hellaenergy | the netbeans book? |
| 22:35.17 | jasonb | litheum: Many older ones aren't there, I think. Old/outdated publishing formats were the largest problem there I think. |
| 22:35.27 | fluke | "You now have used 1.0 out of 5 slots available on your Bookshelf." ahah, are there books that don't use exactly 1 slot? (pocket refs?) (ie: why use a float?) |
| 22:35.59 | Spline | jason: so did you write it in docbook? linuxdoc? |
| 22:36.31 | litheum | well that's the funny things, a lof of the stuff i couldn't find in there was newer! |
| 22:36.36 | litheum | but alas, who knows what's going on there |
| 22:37.12 | jasonb | Spline: Nope! I don't know how to do that yet. :) I wrote it via OpenOffice in (ack) Word format. It worked fine though. |
| 22:37.21 | Spline | wow |
| 22:37.27 | Spline | yea thinking in c# was a .doc too |
| 22:37.38 | jasonb | litheum: Also, it does take time to have that stuff converted from Frame/Word into HTML for Safari. Be patient. |
| 22:37.50 | Spline | dude in #xml named Jilks just completed a simpler book format called BookML |
| 22:38.30 | jasonb | It would be neat if stuff like that actually got used by publishers, but it would have to be *very* mature. |
| 22:39.43 | Hellaenergy | how can one supply individual virual hosts with their own server.xml? |
| 22:39.50 | Spline | docbook can be fairly simply transformed to HTML or RTF |
| 22:40.30 | Spline | jasonb: got a ballpark estimate on how many hours you committed to the book end-to-end? |
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| 22:43.30 | Hellaenergy | peace |
| 22:45.20 | Hellaenergy | later |
| 22:48.17 | jasonb | Spline: It would be hard for me to estimate that.. hmm.. It was 8 full months of my non-work time. |
| 22:49.09 | jasonb | And, I only wrote half the book, approximately. But, I did go over the other half and change/add/blend. |
| 22:49.38 | jasonb | All in all, I think at least a person year and a half was spent on that book.. |
| 22:53.04 | Spline | i was mostly trying to get your personal time investment |
| 22:53.15 | Spline | i can't imagine completing 3000 hours in 8 months |
| 22:53.27 | Spline | even 1500 would be very hard in non-collab.net hours |
| 22:54.04 | jasonb | Yeah.. hmm.. I should try to calculate the number of hours I really did spend on it. It was alot though. |
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| 22:58.33 | Spline | around? 4 digits of precision? |
| 22:58.44 | jasonb | And, I normally work about 50 hours per week for CollabNet. Ugh. |
| 22:59.02 | jasonb | 8 months = 32 weeks. |
| 22:59.02 | jasonb | In each week: 8 hours per weekend day, * 2 = 16 hours |
| 22:59.02 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.02 | jasonb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.02 | jasonb | 32 weeks * 36 hours = 1152 hours |
| 22:59.08 | Spline | do you remember what color your wife's eyes are? |
| 22:59.16 | jasonb | heh! |
| 22:59.52 | Spline | 8 months = 2/3 of 52 weeks, so its more like 34 weeks |
| 23:00.47 | jasonb | Okay, sure. So that would inflate the estimate a little.. but, I did get interrupted a few times and couldn't work on the book so that re-deflates it again. |
| 23:02.30 | Spline | fermi would be proud |
| 23:02.55 | jasonb | :) |
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