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| 01:34.45 | Hellaenergy | Hey jasonb |
| 01:34.54 | Hellaenergy | haven't seen you in awhile |
| 01:35.11 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: Yeah, I just got back from a week-long vacation in Florida. :) |
| 01:35.20 | Hellaenergy | nice |
| 01:36.17 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: I noticed you put the new O'Reilly URL to our book.. very cool.. I didn't even know about that URL until I saw it in the topic here! |
| 01:36.36 | jasonb | Hellaenergy: I loaded the page, and found out that Chapter 6: Tomcat Security had been released to the public! |
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| 05:54.44 | heaps | jasonb: are you up? |
| 05:59.18 | jasonb | heaps: Yup, I am. |
| 05:59.30 | jasonb | heaps: Amazingly, I'm doing last minute work on our book. *sigh* |
| 05:59.43 | jasonb | heaps: What's going on? |
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| 06:12.49 | heaps | hi |
| 06:12.55 | jasonb | hi. |
| 06:13.18 | heaps | i just wanted to ask if you know of docs in tomcat that says the common/endorsed dir is same as the extension directory |
| 06:13.33 | heaps | for 4.1.x that is |
| 06:14.01 | jasonb | I think one of the .txt files in the root of the Tomcat dist would have information about that. |
| 06:14.03 | heaps | wow, you're a contributing author..cool |
| 06:14.12 | jasonb | I did contribute a bit, yes. |
| 06:14.21 | jasonb | I plan to contribute more once the book is done. |
| 06:14.22 | stakys | hmmz can anyone help with theese errors: http://www.pastebin.com/10311 ? |
| 06:14.35 | jasonb | stakys: Hold on. |
| 06:14.45 | stakys | jasonb: ok |
| 06:15.58 | heaps | jasonb: the only thing i saw re: that extension dir is some comments made by CraigM.. but i want to find some printable reference in tomcat docs. |
| 06:16.32 | jasonb | heaps: Well, the README.txt in the root is supposed to say what the common/endorsed dir is meant to do, but it doesn't meantion it. I think that's because they added common/endorsed and forgot to add that to the README.txt file. |
| 06:17.42 | heaps | jasonb: here is a link that i can use as reference, from CM |
| 06:17.49 | heaps | http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-user&m=103843452413727&w=4 |
| 06:18.40 | jasonb | Yeah, that's a pretty good one. |
| 06:19.09 | heaps | i wish its noted in the tomcat docs though to make it more official |
| 06:19.24 | jasonb | I'm pretty sure it acts basically like the jre/lib/ext dir, only within Tomcat.. |
| 06:20.57 | jasonb | Yeah, even in the most recent version of the README.txt file it's not mentioned. |
| 06:20.59 | heaps | i would think it should be specified in the CATALINA_OPTS as a java -Dxxxx option to make it clearer |
| 06:21.47 | heaps | to be exact -Djava.ext.dirs me thinks |
| 06:22.58 | jasonb | heaps: Actually, it is documented here: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/class-loader-howto.html |
| 06:23.05 | jasonb | heaps: Search for "endorsed" |
| 06:23.18 | heaps | okay, let me read that again..thanks |
| 06:23.26 | jasonb | heaps: Np. |
| 06:25.18 | jasonb | stakys: Looks like mod_jk2 trouble. Our book goes over that, but it's not quite out yet.. Early June. |
| 06:27.34 | jasonb | stakys: If I were you, I'd check to make sure that Tomcat is indeed accepting requests over the AJP port that you're telling mod_jk2 to connect to.. (port 120000?) |
| 06:35.09 | heaps | jasonb: the ServletContextListener which is usually used in <listener> its contextInitialized is called everytime a client hits the page? only if a new client? or put another way when does a context gets created? |
| 06:37.01 | jasonb | Webapp contexts are instantiated and initialized when the servlet container is running and when the servlet container instantiates and initializes an instance of a webapp. |
| 06:38.05 | heaps | so thats basically once right? until the webapp is shutdown? |
| 06:38.23 | jasonb | Tomcat instantiates and initializes a webapp when: 1) Tomcat starts up and has config info somewhere about a <Context> that it should deploy, or 2) when a webapp is autodeployed by way of auto-discovering the webapp that should be deployed. |
| 06:39.27 | jasonb | If the webapp is modified and a new .war file is available, and if auto-discovery/deployment should take place, the old version is shut down and the new version is hot-deployed without Tomcat shutting down and restarting. |
| 06:40.00 | jasonb | OR, a hot deployment like that may take place if the admin tells Tomcat to do it via either the manager webapp or the admin webapp. |
| 06:40.16 | jasonb | (if one or both of those are already deployed and accessable) |
| 06:41.02 | heaps | okay that make sense, thanks for elaborating |
| 06:41.12 | jasonb | But yeah, within a single lifecycle of a webapp, the one-and-only context for that webapp is only instantiated and initialized once. |
| 06:41.35 | jasonb | Np. |
| 06:42.40 | stakys | jasonb: but i told tomcat to connect on port 8009 as in that how-to which i showed for u because, all the configuration is taken from there.. |
| 06:43.20 | heaps | the sample from Jason Hunter on javaworld article threw me off (ClickStreamLogger) as I had the impression it initializes everytime a new client hits the servlet |
| 06:45.07 | jasonb | heaps: Over the years there has been lots of confusion about the ServletContext .. how it's used and what its lifecycle is supposed to be. The Servlet Specifications have often been vague about it, even though there wasn't any reason to be vague, and I don't think they intended for it to be vague. |
| 06:45.41 | heaps | ahh just realized too that he had HttpSessionListener too in same ClickStreamLogger, its this part that was counted. |
| 06:46.25 | heaps | for every new user that clicks. the sample was using very similar attribute names, thats why i got confused |
| 06:46.48 | jasonb | Yeah, that can happen. |
| 06:47.42 | heaps | your explanation made it clearer, thanks again..good night |
| 06:48.14 | jasonb | heaps: Np.. good night.. |
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| 06:49.01 | jasonb | stakys: Can you put the entire contents of your apache2/conf/workers2.properties file on that paste server so I can see it? |
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| 06:56.45 | stakys | jasonb: mmm it do not allows to paste all of it to see but in post http://www.pastebin.com/10316 at the section Code u can see everything what is in my workers2.properties |
| 06:58.33 | jasonb | stakys: What's the exact absolute path to that file? |
| 06:59.52 | stakys | the workers2.properties is in /usr/local/conf/ |
| 07:00.26 | stakys | for first i tried to use it in /usr/local/etc/apache2/conf but it required that file to be in /usr/local/conf |
| 07:00.58 | jasonb | That sounds broken/awkward. |
| 07:01.26 | jasonb | Did it give you some error, saying it couldn't fild /usr/local/conf/workers2.properties? |
| 07:01.36 | stakys | yes |
| 07:01.47 | jasonb | Also, did you compile any of these binaries yourself? Apache2? mod_jk2? |
| 07:02.18 | stakys | yes i made from source mod_jk2, but apache2 from FreeBSD ports collection |
| 07:02.34 | jasonb | Ahh. |
| 07:03.03 | jasonb | That may work, depending on how you compiled it. |
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| 07:04.50 | jasonb | stakys: I'm not exactly sure how one would compile mod_jk2 against FreeBSD ports code/binaries, but looking purely at source that isn't entangled with a package manager, it's not real easy to do correctly. |
| 07:05.49 | stakys | hmmz compiling and installing mod_jk2 helped for me one freebsdjava-maintainer |
| 07:05.51 | jasonb | And, doing it correctly may depend on your Apache 2 being already compiled in a mod_jk2-compatible way. |
| 07:06.09 | jasonb | (mainly able to load apache 2 modules) |
| 07:06.49 | stakys | hmmz yes it's compiled correctly |
| 07:07.02 | stakys | jasonb: mayby u want to connect to system and check? |
| 07:07.06 | jasonb | stakys: Just so you know, the default location for workers2.properties is indeed supposed to be the apache2/conf dir. |
| 07:07.57 | jasonb | stakys: I suspect something got compiled wrong since it's looking in /usr/local/conf (seemingly missing the "apache2" part of that path). |
| 07:08.37 | stakys | so i need to do everything from the begginning i mean compiling mod_jk2 ? |
| 07:09.53 | jasonb | stakys: Well, I'm not sure. If you try everything and your problems don't go away, then you probably do need to recompile everything more carefully. |
| 07:10.20 | jasonb | stakys: But, for now, I'd try to make it happy by giving it what it wants.. but it seems like it's not really seeing your configs correctly. |
| 07:10.34 | stakys | hmmz i dont know what to try for solving that problems :/ |
| 07:11.01 | jasonb | If you're telling it: |
| 07:11.02 | jasonb | port=8009 |
| 07:11.02 | jasonb | host=127.0.0.1 |
| 07:11.21 | jasonb | And it's trying to connect to port 120000, then something's pretty wrong. |
| 07:11.40 | jasonb | Can you find "120000" anywhere in your config files? |
| 07:11.58 | jasonb | If not, then that must be compiled in somewhere, and being used because the configs aren't being read correctly. |
| 07:12.23 | stakys | no i cannot find anywhere 120000 in config files |
| 07:13.29 | stakys | hmmz so how can i delete mod_jk2 from my system to make a fresh installing of it again ? |
| 07:15.02 | jasonb | Also, generally, binary packages for mod_jk2 just don't work right. Also, often, binary packages for Apache 2 when used with a random binary of mod_jk2.so just don't work either. You'll either have to compile your own mod_jk2.so, very carefully, or you'll have to compile both Apache 2 and mod_jk2 from scratch carefully. Sometimes Apache 2 binaries are already compiled in a way that won't work with mod_jk2. |
| 07:16.13 | stakys | thnx |
| 07:16.17 | jasonb | No prob. |
| 07:16.28 | stakys | i'll try reinstalling mod_jk2 |
| 07:16.52 | jasonb | When our book comes out, you'll have a little more docs about mod_jk2. |
| 07:23.41 | stakys | Nice :} |
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| 07:24.20 | stakys | btw: u'r book will be in net-book or i can buy it in amazon or somewhere else? |
| 07:24.40 | jasonb | Check out - Tomcat: The Definitive Guide here: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/tomcat/ |
| 07:24.47 | stakys | ok |
| 07:25.15 | jasonb | You can buy it on online book stores, but I personally suggest not buying it from Amazon.com. |
| 07:25.32 | stakys | why? |
| 07:26.11 | jasonb | Amazon.com knowingly hinders technology to increase their own profits. |
| 07:27.10 | jasonb | I personally dedicate most of my life to technology, so I therefore am against Amazon.com's policies regarding free/open source software. |
| 07:28.25 | jasonb | For more info, do a search on http://slashdot.org for "amazon" and you'll find articles about it all. |
| 07:28.42 | stakys | Ok, thanx |
| 07:28.46 | jasonb | Np. |
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| 10:09.44 | mar_ | hi people! |
| 10:10.11 | mar_ | tomcat support Enterprise Java Bean ? |
| 10:10.26 | jasonb | Not by itself, no. |
| 10:10.50 | mar_ | oh! |
| 10:10.56 | jasonb | But, with an add-on EJB container it would.. like OpenEJB for example. |
| 10:11.12 | jasonb | http://openejb.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:11.13 | mar_ | ok... i will look for it thx |
| 10:11.17 | jasonb | Np. |
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| 15:00.41 | Morrowyn | hello |
| 15:01.53 | Morrowyn | im wondering, at the moment im running apache with php and i need to install tomcat, will these proggies conflict with eachother or can both run together at the same time? |
| 15:01.54 | mar_ | hi |
| 15:06.48 | Morrowyn | hey |
| 15:07.12 | mar_ | i dont kown th answer at this trivia... sorry |
| 15:08.25 | Morrowyn | k |
| 15:12.30 | KarolR | morrowyn, by default Tomcat's http server engine runs on the 8080 port |
| 15:12.35 | KarolR | you won't have a conflict there |
| 15:12.45 | KarolR | You can configure Tomcat + Apache httpd to work together |
| 15:12.54 | KarolR | using mod_jk connector. |
| 15:13.34 | Morrowyn | cool |
| 15:13.43 | Morrowyn | im installing both now |
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| 15:25.21 | ob1io | hi |
| 15:25.36 | ob1io | are there any good indexes of existing java servlet apps? |
| 15:25.39 | ob1io | like GPL'd stuff |
| 15:25.41 | ob1io | or just freshmeat |
| 15:25.57 | KarolR | I'm not aware of any |
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| 17:47.30 | [np]Exterm][nato | any newbies here like me!? |
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| 19:47.44 | stakys | Is there any good how-to for freebsd to configure apache2 and tomcat41 to |
| 19:47.44 | stakys | work through mod_jk2? (or apache13 and and mod_jk) |
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| 19:55.14 | airog | any tomcat developers here? |
| 19:55.57 | airog | I'd like up add an additional check in the session manager; to check to make sure the principal is the same before using a session retrieved from a cookie |
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| 21:47.07 | cdot | hi |
| 21:50.00 | cdot | is it possible to create multiple JNDI DataSource in tomcat? |
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| 23:38.14 | Hellaenergy | yo n0ir |
| 23:38.26 | n0ir | hi |