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| 01:14.25 | Hellaenergy | hi arfcat what sup |
| 01:15.22 | arfcat | gotta go to office depot |
| 01:15.24 | arfcat | be right bacj |
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| 04:47.47 | bun0 | hi..anyone awake? |
| 04:51.34 | Hellaenergy | sure |
| 04:52.54 | bun0 | hi..i wonder if you have setup tomcat using HomesUserDatabase |
| 04:53.18 | bun0 | where basically i wanted to make /home/user/public_html as the webapp root |
| 04:54.05 | Hellaenergy | didn't you do this with the virutual host directive? |
| 04:54.26 | bun0 | no |
| 04:54.39 | Hellaenergy | ibot: Virutal Hosts |
| 04:54.39 | | Hellaenergy: I give up, what is it? |
| 04:54.42 | Hellaenergy | ibot: Virutal Host |
| 04:54.43 | | Hellaenergy: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 04:54.56 | tang^ | heh |
| 04:55.09 | bun0 | i have the <Listener..> enclosed under <Host..> if thats same? |
| 04:55.29 | tang^ | virtual hosts? |
| 04:56.41 | bun0 | whats make it not work is it seems is because /home/users/public_html is nfs mounted |
| 04:57.28 | Hellaenergy | http://server.ccl.net/cca/software/UNIX/apache/debian-tomcat/node14.html |
| 04:57.32 | bun0 | but on a system where /home are not nfs just straight linux fs the /home/users/public_html is picked up |
| 04:57.46 | Hellaenergy | ah |
| 04:58.06 | bun0 | i wonder if that has anything to do with /home being nfs? |
| 04:58.19 | Hellaenergy | dono |
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| 05:18.38 | bun0 | good night |
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| 06:01.31 | akb_ | Goodmorning. |
| 06:02.02 | Hellaenergy | Hey akb_ |
| 06:02.10 | Hellaenergy | Did you write that servlet? |
| 06:03.50 | akb_ | i wrote some 100, which do you need? |
| 06:08.56 | Hellaenergy | The one you wrote yesterday |
| 06:10.58 | akb_ | yesterday was a busy day, i was in a meeting with the MD of our company, so didnt write any |
| 06:12.02 | Hellaenergy | lol |
| 06:12.25 | Hellaenergy | I was just giving you shit |
| 06:12.40 | akb_ | are java based sites really slow or is it a major misconception? |
| 06:13.03 | Hellaenergy | Java Based Sites are fast |
| 06:13.08 | akb_ | i know Hellaenergy. Its ok, you cant give shit to a shit |
| 06:13.15 | Hellaenergy | its applications that people say are slow |
| 06:13.24 | akb_ | cool, u got any good sites that run on jsp and servlets? |
| 06:13.49 | Hellaenergy | no |
| 06:13.52 | Hellaenergy | not yet |
| 06:14.09 | Hellaenergy | I am working on it right now |
| 06:14.18 | akb_ | i mean, are you aware of any sites written on servlets that load in a sec |
| 06:14.33 | Hellaenergy | www.usbank.com |
| 06:14.51 | akb_ | using even |
| 06:15.09 | Hellaenergy | They use servlets left and right |
| 06:16.41 | akb_ | nice |
| 06:17.39 | akb_ | actually, i never used servlets on any of my sites yet, i plan to use soon, but its an insurance company 'static' site and it got to be fast. I am not sure if i should go for servlets/jsp or something other like asp.. |
| 06:18.44 | Hellaenergy | pah |
| 06:18.50 | Hellaenergy | asp's? |
| 06:19.00 | Hellaenergy | Definatley go for Servlets |
| 06:19.54 | Hellaenergy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:20.13 | Hellaenergy | and the most secure |
| 06:20.15 | akb_ | its a static site so no jdbc involved, so i guess it will be fast enough isnt it? my first application written back in 2001 using servlet was a bit slow :/ i guess it was the processor celron 600 and it whined when i installed oracle 8i on it, yeah i installed an application that requires min 128mb on a 64 mb pc ;) |
| 06:20.46 | Hellaenergy | Ya Tomcat need alot of memory |
| 06:21.20 | Hellaenergy | I think http://www.distributopia.com has some stuff on Benchmarks |
| 06:22.02 | Hellaenergy | man his site is gone :( |
| 06:22.38 | akb_ | yes, i too share the same views about it, but i was the first and only guy who went out of the way and learnt java. At that time, java was giving seizures to programers, and all were running behind .net, it had just come in the market. So i didnt get much support and i just stopped making java applications , then my final term began and now its 2003, :) |
| 06:23.04 | akb_ | things have changed and am struggling a bit, but not for long..hopefully :) |
| 06:23.49 | Hellaenergy | why are you struggling? |
| 06:25.45 | akb_ | i used to be good in java but two year gap that came made me slow and i am finding it hard to catchon, as i cant make mary-popins appli any more, now they are real time big projects and am the manager :/ so its walking a tight rope while u balance a watermelon over your head... |
| 06:26.33 | Hellaenergy | You definatly talk like a manager :) |
| 06:26.58 | Hellaenergy | good luck though |
| 06:27.16 | akb_ | thank you |
| 06:27.26 | akb_ | but all i do is talk :) |
| 06:28.31 | akb_ | i dont want to be a manager at 23 though :`( i dont get time to improve my skills. |
| 06:34.09 | Hellaenergy | hehe |
| 06:34.42 | akb_ | man go ahead, pull my leg, with a manager like me, you can imagine the plight of the company :/ |
| 06:34.53 | Hellaenergy | ahaha |
| 06:35.00 | Hellaenergy | Look at it this way |
| 06:35.22 | Hellaenergy | you could tell your programmers to hold a tutorial for someone else |
| 06:35.27 | Hellaenergy | and sit in on em too |
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| 06:37.53 | a4akb | hi |
| 06:38.01 | a4akb | got disconnected |
| 06:39.10 | a4akb | am the only java-enabled brain of my company. |
| 06:39.20 | a4akb | others have that option disabled permenantly :/ |
| 06:40.38 | Hellaenergy | Too bad for their pocket book |
| 06:41.10 | a4akb | :( |
| 06:42.09 | a4akb | i can talk about the life cyle of a servlet or software, but how to deal with the secretary who cant type a letter for you :/ and you got to write letters for yourself just to save your face.. |
| 06:43.09 | a4akb | :) |
| 06:43.10 | a4akb | its ok |
| 06:43.13 | Hellaenergy | Have you talked with her? |
| 06:43.24 | a4akb | lol am typing a thank you letter atm as we talk :) |
| 06:43.49 | Hellaenergy | What does your company do? |
| 06:44.17 | a4akb | its a new company |
| 06:45.14 | a4akb | and we are into internet marketing, but after i came in, am concentrating more on application development and making websites etc. |
| 06:46.00 | Hellaenergy | Sounds fun |
| 06:46.14 | a4akb | its like anything goes as long as its profitable, thats where we fall short, as there is no proper drving force, and its all hazy, people dont want to invest much due to the situation, and you got to survive in the market :) |
| 06:46.15 | Hellaenergy | Do any of your guys do Flash Development? |
| 06:46.23 | a4akb | yes. |
| 06:46.54 | Hellaenergy | I know exactly what you mean |
| 06:47.02 | a4akb | what do you need in flash? i know a bit of flash myself. |
| 06:47.03 | Hellaenergy | my company is the same way :( |
| 06:47.16 | Hellaenergy | ActionScript? |
| 06:47.37 | a4akb | what kind of action script? i can do basic action scripting |
| 06:47.42 | a4akb | not advanced. |
| 06:47.51 | Hellaenergy | Never Mind then |
| 06:48.00 | a4akb | hmm |
| 06:48.20 | a4akb | am making a site for an online friend, will show you once its up. |
| 06:48.46 | Hellaenergy | do you know how to play() without looping? |
| 06:49.01 | a4akb | yes i guess |
| 06:49.09 | a4akb | you got flash? |
| 06:49.14 | a4akb | i mean software |
| 06:49.19 | Hellaenergy | yes |
| 06:49.31 | Hellaenergy | I just bought it this weekend ;) |
| 06:49.37 | a4akb | cool |
| 06:49.40 | Hellaenergy | I love it |
| 06:49.47 | a4akb | yes |
| 06:50.26 | a4akb | you want to play a file in your flash swf file and it should play only once |
| 06:50.30 | a4akb | is that what you need? |
| 06:50.37 | Hellaenergy | yes |
| 06:50.41 | a4akb | simple |
| 06:50.55 | a4akb | brb let me bring flash up |
| 06:51.22 | Hellaenergy | I am making a button from MovieClips and I want to play a MovieClip and have it stop at the end |
| 06:51.32 | Hellaenergy | and I am not looking for gotoAndStop() |
| 06:51.52 | Hellaenergy | I want the MovieClip to play out and then stop |
| 06:53.53 | a4akb | hmm |
| 06:54.48 | Hellaenergy | I guess I have to count frames and stop when it gets there |
| 06:55.18 | a4akb | hella what do u need to stop? just the music or both the animation and music? |
| 06:55.36 | Hellaenergy | Just a Motion Tween |
| 06:56.34 | a4akb | ok before making the motion tween, we should first define it as graphic if its an image, movie, or onstage play.. did u define any of these? |
| 06:56.53 | Hellaenergy | movie |
| 06:57.00 | a4akb | ok good |
| 06:57.23 | a4akb | actually the common method is to define stop at the frame where you you dont want to continue it |
| 06:58.02 | a4akb | -you |
| 06:58.21 | Hellaenergy | that is just what I was looking for thanks :) |
| 06:58.46 | a4akb | go to the end of the movie clip (last frame) there define stop in the script and it should do |
| 06:58.58 | Hellaenergy | I got it |
| 06:59.20 | Hellaenergy | That seems sloppy though |
| 07:00.16 | Hellaenergy | I was told by some flash gurus that you should keep all your scripting in _root |
| 07:01.09 | a4akb | blink |
| 07:01.19 | a4akb | i dont know about that sorry :( |
| 07:01.25 | a4akb | _root of what? server? |
| 07:01.41 | Hellaenergy | Flash MX stuff ;) |
| 07:01.54 | a4akb | cool i have flash 5 :) |
| 07:02.18 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 07:03.03 | a4akb | :) |
| 07:04.57 | a4akb | Hellaenergy u got any good service providers that give you option for website hoisting and registration/domain name booking together? at competetive rates with a good reseller program? |
| 07:05.28 | Hellaenergy | No I do all that for myself |
| 07:06.13 | a4akb | ? |
| 07:06.20 | a4akb | how? |
| 07:07.07 | Hellaenergy | I have my own server running apache/tomcat and I am my own name server as well |
| 07:08.50 | a4akb | where did you get one? |
| 07:08.59 | Hellaenergy | get what? |
| 07:11.18 | a4akb | your own server web-host, web-space, domain name etc |
| 07:12.08 | Hellaenergy | yup |
| 07:12.28 | Hellaenergy | all that and a bag of chips |
| 07:12.36 | a4akb | from where did you get all those? you must have brought it from somewhere |
| 07:13.15 | Hellaenergy | dotearth.com I registered the domain names and the name server |
| 07:13.34 | Hellaenergy | http://httpd.apache.org I got the webserver |
| 07:13.56 | Hellaenergy | http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat I got the servlet container |
| 07:14.10 | Hellaenergy | and http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/ I got the named |
| 07:14.37 | Hellaenergy | I built my server from scratch |
| 07:14.41 | a4akb | cool |
| 07:15.45 | a4akb | i need to book and get a hoisting package for my client, i need a service which does the both, something like www.register.com |
| 07:16.27 | Hellaenergy | I don't know about your part of the world but here visi.com is solid |
| 07:21.12 | a4akb | here basically we use uk based servers because geographically that is closer to us |
| 07:21.32 | a4akb | but some do use american based comapnies as well |
| 07:54.11 | a4akb | hmm |
| 07:54.18 | a4akb | so what are you upto hellabot |
| 07:54.23 | a4akb | err i mean Hellaenergy |
| 07:54.34 | Hellaenergy | upgrading bind |
| 07:55.47 | a4akb | nice |
| 08:17.47 | Hellaenergy | a4akb: You still around? |
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| 09:22.06 | a4akb | oops |
| 09:22.11 | a4akb | :( |
| 09:22.21 | a4akb | i wasent at my system :/ |
| 09:22.27 | a4akb | brb |
| 09:38.37 | PW_Wrk | anyone here? (and I don't take "no" as an answer ;D ) |
| 09:40.07 | jasonb | :) |
| 09:42.13 | PW_Wrk | hey jasonb - the other day you never gave any reasons why jabber isn't a good? ;) |
| 09:43.11 | PW_Wrk | but what I would like to know is whether I can load the initparams from web.xml at any time in a servlet? |
| 10:04.15 | jasonb | I'm not sure I understand your question about servlet init params though. |
| 10:04.59 | jasonb | PW_Wrk: You might want to look through the Java Servlet Specification, regarding servlet init params and how they're used. The spec's pretty clear. |
| 10:05.14 | PW_Wrk | hmm...k |
| 10:06.46 | PW_Wrk | nite |
| 10:06.53 | jasonb | Good night. |
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| 10:51.33 | akb_ | hi there |
| 10:51.47 | PW_Wrk | hi |
| 10:52.23 | akb_ | what are sap applications? |
| 10:53.09 | PW_Wrk | how do I add escape characters in XML? (I want to have a html tag in a init param in web.xml) |
| 10:54.18 | akb_ | am sorry, i never tried that :( |
| 10:55.13 | akb_ | you need to edit your web.xml but am not sure what your requirments are and i myself never editied any web.xml |
| 10:55.33 | akb_ | when i asked about the editing, i was told to learn it myself so i guess you too can expect similar reply here |
| 11:00.17 | PW_Wrk | yearh |
| 11:00.19 | PW_Wrk | prolly |
| 11:00.31 | PW_Wrk | I figured it out |
| 11:00.45 | akb_ | cool |
| 11:00.46 | akb_ | how? |
| 11:00.58 | PW_Wrk | I used the html escape characters |
| 11:01.13 | PW_Wrk | like " and < |
| 11:01.22 | akb_ | nice |
| 11:05.52 | PW_Wrk | yep |
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| 11:25.50 | `akb | hey farmer |
| 12:04.12 | `akb | if i install tomcat and later install apache, will both work on 8080? |
| 12:04.17 | `akb | wont there be a conflict? |
| 12:05.42 | `akb | jason |
| 12:05.46 | `akb | anyone? |
| 12:06.30 | lalle | `akb: of course... you shoudl run apache on port 80, and tomcat on some other port |
| 12:06.37 | lalle | No i dont want to tell you more |
| 12:06.45 | lalle | No, because i dont have time |
| 12:06.46 | lalle | =) |
| 12:07.14 | `akb | why cant i run both on the same port? |
| 12:07.24 | `akb | i am not running them simultaneously. |
| 12:08.15 | lalle | Because, you just cant! If you should open an connection to 8080, how should apache/tomcat know which server you are request to |
| 12:08.19 | lalle | requesting |
| 12:08.35 | `akb | :?? |
| 12:08.38 | lalle | `akb: Aha, if you dont run them at the same time, you can =) |
| 12:08.42 | `akb | hmm |
| 12:08.50 | `akb | ok thats fine then |
| 12:09.01 | `akb | ty and run back to your work will talk about it later |
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| 12:59.47 | `akb | knock |
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| 13:02.09 | `akb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:27.04 | aje | Hi. |
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| 15:35.24 | `akb | . |
| 15:42.55 | `akb | http://dreamcatchermovie.warnerbros.com/ |
| 15:45.29 | `akb | all comments can be posted at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/ |
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| 15:52.48 | chayim | hy everybody! |
| 15:54.28 | chayim | anybody actually here? |
| 15:54.34 | vakYpollo | sure |
| 15:54.58 | chayim | mind if I ask a question about jspc.sh? |
| 15:56.48 | chayim | I've got tomcat 4.1.12, jdk 1.4.1-1 (Linux), and if I compile my sample jsp using jspc.sh I get an ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 1. This is true of any jsp I try to compile. |
| 15:56.52 | chayim | any ideas? |
| 16:00.44 | chayim | hello? |
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| 16:02.11 | `akb | chayim |
| 16:02.14 | `akb | ... |
| 16:02.40 | `akb | am sorry to say but most of the consoles that show these nicks are clinically dead |
| 16:05.24 | chayim | huh? |
| 16:07.25 | `akb | :) |
| 16:07.40 | `akb | dont trust me? wait for a few hours maybe someone would pass by and check in |
| 16:08.41 | vakYpollo | chayim: have you checked out a simple hello world example? |
| 16:08.43 | chayim | `akb : sorry but I'm not actually understanding what you've said (maybe I'm dead) |
| 16:08.49 | chayim | vakYpollo yeah, same problem. |
| 16:11.08 | vakYpollo | chayim: jum... I have checked an exampl and I can compile a JSP...but using tomcat 4.0.2 |
| 16:11.21 | vakYpollo | can't check 4.1.12... |
| 16:11.28 | vakYpollo | (also using jdk 1.3) |
| 16:13.51 | vakYpollo | chayim: have you checked compiling jsp's in other enviroment? (not yust your room ;) |
| 16:14.23 | `akb | vakYpollo how do i run a servlet on win xp? i installed j2sdk1.4.1 and i could compile a simple java code, but when i try to compile a servlet, i get a cannot resolve symbol error |
| 16:15.09 | vakYpollo | just switch to GNU/linux :) |
| 16:15.17 | KarolR | ;) |
| 16:15.47 | KarolR | You need servlet.jar on your classpath when compiling a servlet. |
| 16:16.38 | `akb | KarolR i did that, but where can i find servlet.jar? i guess i will have to copy the servlet.jar in the directory from whre am trying to compile the code |
| 16:17.06 | chayim | vakYpollo : hmm... my room is a little interesting.. it's a dev environment for 15ish people. Everything's built from source, etc. |
| 16:17.27 | `akb | btw how are you KarolR |
| 16:17.30 | vakYpollo | chayim: I meant to try another tomcat / jdk release. |
| 16:18.28 | chayim | ah... well unfortunately I can't switch my jdk, but I guess I could give another tomcat a go (really don't want to though |
| 16:18.34 | chayim | it will cause me huge amounts of work. |
| 16:18.38 | chayim | =( |
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| 16:21.30 | vakYpollo | chayim: if a hello work jsp is working with tomcat, and you can't just compile it because compilation issues that error, maybe your installation is not ok. |
| 16:21.34 | vakYpollo | (hello world)= |
| 16:22.18 | `akb | KarolR ....... |
| 16:22.20 | KarolR | Ah sorry I was away |
| 16:22.40 | `akb | ok |
| 16:22.46 | KarolR | I am fine thank you |
| 16:22.51 | chayim | vakYpollo : can you point me to the hello world you're talking about (maybe we have different worlds) |
| 16:22.53 | `akb | now tell me |
| 16:22.58 | `akb | good to know |
| 16:23.51 | KarolR | akb, you can find the servlet.jar in the $CATALINA_HOME/common/lib directory |
| 16:24.43 | `akb | KarolR i know but cant i run a servlet without $CATALINA_HOME |
| 16:25.00 | `akb | i just installed j2sdk1.4.1 didnt install tomcat yet |
| 16:25.03 | KarolR | In order to run a servlet, you need a web container that wil host it |
| 16:25.08 | KarolR | (such as Tomcat) |
| 16:25.27 | vakYpollo | chayim: I mean a simple hello world, not very pckage-dependent. Let me check one. |
| 16:25.32 | KarolR | Java2 SDK is the runtime environment that makes it possible to run and develop java programs. |
| 16:25.33 | `akb | lol KarolR i know |
| 16:25.37 | `akb | i meant compile |
| 16:25.43 | KarolR | So what is your question then? |
| 16:25.54 | `akb | cant i just compile it without a container? |
| 16:26.43 | KarolR | Of course you can compile it without a container. You just need access to the libraries (jars) with classes that implement the Servlet spec interfaces |
| 16:26.58 | KarolR | (such as $CATALINA_HOME/common/lib/servlet.jar) |
| 16:27.42 | KarolR | for example, your servlet extends HttpServlet. The java compile needs to know what the HttpServlet thing is. |
| 16:28.01 | `akb | yes thats the error i got |
| 16:28.06 | `akb | but what i did was |
| 16:28.19 | KarolR | Can't you install Tomcat? |
| 16:28.40 | `akb | copied a servlet.jar from catalina_home of another pc into my directory which had got my servlets codes |
| 16:28.47 | `akb | yes i can :) |
| 16:29.27 | KarolR | When compiling your servlet class, did you explicitelly put that .jar on your classpath? |
| 16:29.42 | chayim | vakYpollo : thnx... I'll hold |
| 16:29.44 | KarolR | (Btw, why the heck do you do this by hand? Get yourself a Java IDE) |
| 16:30.02 | vakYpollo | chayim: try just "<% out.println("hello world"); %> |
| 16:30.12 | vakYpollo | chayim: try just <% out.println("hello world"); %> |
| 16:30.12 | `akb | :/ i never used an ide KarolR |
| 16:30.19 | `akb | and my path was like this |
| 16:30.44 | `akb | javac c:\java\servlet.jar Test.java |
| 16:30.48 | chayim | vakYpollo : ok, I've saves that in test.jsp |
| 16:30.58 | chayim | vakYpollo : running ./jspc.sh /export/foo/bar/bla/test.jsp |
| 16:31.12 | chayim | Exception in thread "main" java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 1 |
| 16:31.12 | chayim | at org.apache.jasper.JspC.locateUriRoot(JspC.java:616) |
| 16:31.12 | chayim | at org.apache.jasper.JspC.execute(JspC.java:747) |
| 16:31.15 | chayim | at org.apache.jasper.JspC.main(JspC.java:810) |
| 16:31.25 | chayim | hope you got that. |
| 16:32.04 | vakYpollo | chayim: have you checked test.jsp withou compiling? |
| 16:32.06 | KarolR | akb, that is wrong. I really (REALLY) suggest that you install a Java IDE (for example www.eclipse.org), or at least use Apache Ant to build your sources. |
| 16:32.36 | `akb | hmm |
| 16:32.43 | KarolR | akb, the last thing you want to do is to compile using javac... |
| 16:33.07 | `akb | i fear that i may get used to the ide so much that i forget basic concepts |
| 16:33.34 | `akb | brb |
| 16:34.06 | `akb | KarolR cant u just tell me what is wrong in my compile command? |
| 16:34.10 | `akb | javac |
| 16:34.59 | KarolR | you want to run "javac Test.java" |
| 16:35.13 | KarolR | before that, set the classpath="c:/java/" |
| 16:35.53 | KarolR | that should work. |
| 16:36.39 | chayim | vakYpollo : don't actually know how to do that. |
| 16:37.01 | chayim | vakYpollo : I do CM work, but have never actually used tomcat. |
| 16:37.01 | vakYpollo | chayim: just to publish the page in a tomcat context. |
| 16:37.33 | vakYpollo | chayim: haev you tested the examples that comes with the tomcat distribution? |
| 16:38.09 | chayim | vakYpollo : not yet... figured I'd try just using the jspc first. |
| 16:38.47 | vakYpollo | chayim: you don't need jspc to develop for tomcat. If I were you, I will first check if tomcat is properly installed. |
| 16:39.11 | chayim | vakYpollo : it is. the rest of my development team has been using it fine (in fact product has shipped with it fine) |
| 16:39.48 | vakYpollo | chayim: then, ask your team how to test that .jsp page without compiling. |
| 16:40.03 | chayim | vakYpollo : nk |
| 16:42.30 | chayim | vakYpollo : so they haven't yet shipped any jsps... just servlets |
| 16:42.48 | chayim | vakYpollo : unfortunately, that means I need compiled jsps b/c I can't ship a jdk (silly laws) |
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| 16:48.41 | vakYpollo | chayim: anyway, can you test that .jsp just for now? |
| 16:49.17 | chayim | vakYpollo : sure.... give me a couple of minutes =) |
| 16:49.25 | vakYpollo | okz :) |
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| 16:52.17 | wasabi_ | Intersting question: Is it possible to have two instances of apache talk to one instance of tomcat? I think it is... and wanna make sure. |
| 16:53.00 | vakYpollo | wasabi_: if you use 2 workers, you should. |
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| 17:01.13 | chayim | vakYpollo : it works just fine (your file) |
| 17:02.26 | Karol | akb, did you have any success? |
| 17:02.37 | vakYpollo | chayim: I'm lookin at tomcat source code... let me see that 1 sec. |
| 17:02.46 | chayim | vakYpollo : thanks m8! |
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| 17:03.31 | ak`b | hey KarolR got dc twice |
| 17:03.51 | KarolR | sorry I don't understand |
| 17:04.05 | ak`b | i got disconnected twice |
| 17:04.41 | KarolR | ok |
| 17:04.44 | ak`b | i recall there is a method of doing it without setting the classpath |
| 17:04.44 | ak`b | <a4akb> but i forgot how :/ |
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| 17:05.35 | KarolR | Anyways, why don't you create a simple build file for Ant? Have you ever worked with Ant? |
| 17:05.43 | riand_ | With apache2 is it better to use mod_jk or mod_jk2? |
| 17:05.50 | vakYpollo | chayim: the problem is that you have to store the .jsp files in a valid directory for web applications. |
| 17:06.02 | vakYpollo | chayim: where is your jsp file? |
| 17:07.48 | chayim | vakYpollo : it's in the right place ($TOMCAT_HOME)/webapps/<<appname>>. |
| 17:08.09 | chayim | vakYpollo : and it displayed just fine, meaning I've got an issues with jspc now |
| 17:08.12 | vakYpollo | jum... try to pass the -uriroot <dir> argument. |
| 17:08.22 | vakYpollo | (to jspc.sh) |
| 17:15.15 | chayim | now it's ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 3 |
| 17:20.37 | vakYpollo | chayim: it seems jasper is trying to read an argument that doesn't exists; 3 is the argument number. |
| 17:20.58 | chayim | vakYpollo : already knew that... just confused =( |
| 17:22.01 | chayim | vakYpollo : I changed the syntax of the command line and I now get: |
| 17:22.17 | chayim | ./jspc.sh -uriroot /tmp /export/bk/plaything/core-redrum/repos/coa-servlet/src/jsp/test.jsp |
| 17:22.17 | chayim | 2003-03-12 12:21:38 - ERROR-the file '/export/bk/plaything/core-redrum/repos/coa-servlet/src/jsp/test.jsp' generated the following general exception: java.lang.NullPointerException |
| 17:22.19 | chayim | error:null |
| 17:23.23 | vakYpollo | have you tried ./jspc.sh /tmp/test.jsp |
| 17:23.34 | vakYpollo | ? just to avoid typos. |
| 17:23.42 | chayim | yeah, that's what started this whole mess! |
| 17:24.17 | chayim | besides I was using bash's tab complete to get me there so there was no typo |
| 17:25.03 | vakYpollo | but symlinks. |
| 17:25.25 | chayim | vakYpollo : no symlinks today |
| 17:25.39 | chayim | and the shell will follow sym|hard links |
| 17:26.06 | vakYpollo | but JspC is reading paths and directories. |
| 17:26.23 | chayim | either way it isn't a problem, I copied the test.jsp to the same dir as jspc |
| 17:29.02 | vakYpollo | chayim: just for fun... do "./jspc.sh -webapp . |
| 17:29.04 | vakYpollo | chayim: just for fun... do "./jspc.sh -webapp ." |
| 17:29.33 | chayim | what does that one do? |
| 17:29.49 | vakYpollo | it will compile all .jsp in the current directory |
| 17:29.52 | chayim | 2003-03-12 12:29:42 - ERROR-the file '/test.jsp' generated the following general exception: java.lang.NullPointerException |
| 17:29.53 | chayim | error:null |
| 17:33.04 | vakYpollo | chayim: create a WEB-INF directory and run "./jasper test.jsp" |
| 17:33.18 | vakYpollo | JspC checks the existence of such a dir. |
| 17:33.30 | vakYpollo | (it's an alternative configuration) |
| 17:34.28 | chayim | should I move test.jsp to WEB-INF |
| 17:34.48 | vakYpollo | no. |
| 17:34.58 | chayim | same issue |
| 17:35.13 | chayim | it's baaaak! =( |
| 17:35.53 | vakYpollo | my tomcat isntalaltion is another releasse... and reading the soruce code, JspC.java is very different. |
| 17:36.55 | chayim | ah... sounds like I'm buggered. |
| 17:36.59 | vakYpollo | I have no idea at the moment about what is happening. Try to run a java debugger (jdb) when running jasper. |
| 17:37.15 | vakYpollo | or check Changelog of recent releases. |
| 17:37.27 | vakYpollo | look for bugfixes... maybe it's a bug. |
| 17:37.37 | chayim | btw: ./jasper.sh test.js suggests that I run jspc (which I did). |
| 17:38.32 | vakYpollo | chayim: look for org.apache.jasper.JspC |
| 17:38.39 | vakYpollo | (in the scripts) |
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| 17:40.42 | `akb | hey there |
| 17:40.48 | `akb | am installing tomcat on xp pro |
| 17:40.51 | chayim | it's in jasper.bat and jasper.sh |
| 17:40.59 | chayim | grep is your friend |
| 17:41.12 | `akb | can anyone tell me how do i set $CATILINA_HOME |
| 17:41.34 | chayim | export CATALINA_HOME=<<directory_path>> |
| 17:41.37 | vakYpollo | in linux, using bash, export CATALINA_HOME=/the/path/to/the/tomcat/instalation |
| 17:41.38 | `akb | last time i installed it on 98, i just made a folder named tomcat and installed it there |
| 17:41.46 | `akb | :/ |
| 17:41.55 | `akb | i am on windows xp pro |
| 17:42.31 | `akb | hmm |
| 17:43.11 | vakYpollo | set CATALINA_HOME=c:\the\folder |
| 17:43.25 | vakYpollo | or |
| 17:43.27 | vakYpollo | set CATALINA_HOME="c:\the\folder" |
| 17:43.35 | chayim | vakYpollo : no dice on my end btw, not sure where to go from here. |
| 17:43.43 | `akb | ok but why do u all refer it as $CATALINA_HOME |
| 17:43.58 | chayim | b/c it's the home dir for catalina |
| 17:43.59 | `akb | is $ a linux thing? |
| 17:44.05 | vakYpollo | $CATALINA_HOME in linux/unix... ATALINA_HOME% on win32. |
| 17:44.09 | `akb | blink |
| 17:44.14 | vakYpollo | yea.. |
| 17:44.15 | vakYpollo | :( |
| 17:44.17 | `akb | ah I see |
| 17:44.29 | vakYpollo | but maybe tomcat 4 is using cygwin shell... |
| 17:44.30 | `akb | ): |
| 17:44.44 | vakYpollo | don't really know about M$ stuf |
| 17:45.11 | `akb | what difference will it make if i name my folder as tomcat4.1.8 |
| 17:45.30 | `akb | cool |
| 17:45.38 | `akb | np |
| 17:45.58 | `akb | vakYpollo if i need to learn linux. do u suggest me that i go for unix first then to linux? |
| 17:46.04 | `akb | or directly to linux? |
| 17:46.10 | `akb | and which version? RedHat |
| 17:46.18 | `akb | or blacktoe? |
| 17:46.30 | vakYpollo | directly to GNU/Linux if you like free software. |
| 17:46.39 | chayim | `akb : use linux first |
| 17:47.16 | vakYpollo | you will have to check out some distributions, then select the one you like the most. For free software developers, I recommend debian :) |
| 17:47.37 | chayim | no way dude... go gentoo! |
| 17:48.00 | `akb | blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink |
| 17:48.29 | `akb | debian gentoo redhat knoppix |
| 17:48.34 | `akb | blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink blink bl |
| 17:48.46 | chayim | redhat: really good for newbies (highly recommended) |
| 17:48.55 | chayim | debian: not bad, more for advanced users |
| 17:49.11 | `akb | i guess i am better with windows than jump into that quicksand of multi named os |
| 17:49.12 | chayim | gentoo: takes debian to the nth level for configurability, stability and optimazation.. but start with redhat |
| 17:49.29 | chayim | `akb : it's all the same thing... just different names. |
| 17:49.38 | `akb | hmm |
| 17:49.51 | `akb | is redhat free? |
| 17:49.55 | chayim | yes. |
| 17:50.12 | `akb | full version? |
| 17:50.17 | `akb | or just beta version? |
| 17:50.36 | chayim | every version is always free, just not the high end enterprise versions. |
| 17:50.54 | chayim | but gentoo is the most powerful (and easiest to manage in my world). |
| 17:51.09 | chayim | imaging typing emerge tomcat just to get tomcat and everything else needed to run it, all set up. |
| 17:51.14 | chayim | quite a fun little world. |
| 17:51.15 | `akb | u mean the ones like the application servers? |
| 17:51.50 | `akb | hmm |
| 17:52.22 | chayim | just about anything. |
| 17:52.32 | chayim | in the end they all look the same, but if you're daunted try redhat. |
| 17:52.39 | chayim | use it until you're comfortable. |
| 17:53.02 | `akb | hey |
| 17:53.03 | `akb | can i set up tomcat for my network? |
| 17:53.15 | `akb | can all the clients on my network access tomcat? |
| 17:53.20 | `akb | cool chayim |
| 17:53.41 | `akb | when can one say that he/she/it is comfortable with linux? |
| 17:55.30 | chayim | when you no longer need windows. |
| 17:55.45 | chayim | as for tomcat, apache, sendmail, etc... everything depends on how you configure it. |
| 17:56.21 | `akb | what is sendmail? |
| 17:56.53 | chayim | an smtp (outbound mail) server |
| 17:57.01 | chayim | need to go for about 15 mins... back in a bit |
| 17:57.52 | `akb | ok i will bbl in 2hrs |
| 17:57.59 | `akb | cya and thanks :) |
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| 18:10.14 | akb_ | chayim |
| 18:10.17 | akb_ | u here |
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| 18:17.40 | akb_ | do i have to set the classpath as empty |
| 18:17.45 | akb_ | classpath= |
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| 18:19.20 | akb_ | YO!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 18:19.22 | akb_ | HELLA |
| 18:19.25 | akb_ | can ya hear me? |
| 18:19.28 | akb_ | YELLA HELLA |
| 18:19.31 | akb_ | YO YO YO |
| 18:19.56 | akb_ | :P |
| 18:19.58 | akb_ | naw |
| 18:20.04 | akb_ | its just 9:20pm |
| 18:20.06 | akb_ | ;) |
| 18:20.10 | akb_ | lissun bug |
| 18:20.14 | akb_ | i got a doubt |
| 18:21.03 | akb_ | do we need classpath set to compile and run servlets on tomcat? |
| 18:22.00 | akb_ | Hellaenergy |
| 18:22.15 | akb_ | i am trying to run my servlet on windows XP and if i do it now |
| 18:22.26 | Hellaenergy | No but if you want to comile your servlets yes |
| 18:23.03 | akb_ | i will never bother you on installion related problem relating to XP, but will when i install linux though ;) and YOU are going to teach me A 2 Z of Linux |
| 18:23.36 | akb_ | hmm |
| 18:23.44 | akb_ | so the classpath variable should be empty? |
| 18:23.51 | akb_ | set classpath= |
| 18:23.52 | akb_ | thats it? |
| 18:29.53 | akb_ | Hellaenergy u here? |
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| 18:50.48 | akb_ | bbl |
| 18:50.52 | akb_ | tc |
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| 19:16.17 | chayim | I'm back |
| 20:08.53 | chayim | anybody here still? |
| 20:12.31 | Hellaenergy | oh yeeaaah |
| 20:14.19 | chayim | Hellaenergy: ever deal with JspC? I've been having issues all day. |
| 20:15.04 | Hellaenergy | no |
| 20:15.34 | chayim | dang... I've got issues I just can't solve. |
| 20:15.52 | Hellaenergy | what is JspC? |
| 20:16.00 | Hellaenergy | jsps written in C |
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| 20:17.22 | Hellaenergy | wb jasonb_ |
| 20:36.26 | chayim | Hellaenergy : it's just a jsp compiler (jasper) so that we don't have to distribute a jdk with tomcat. |
| 20:36.50 | Hellaenergy | nice |
| 20:44.46 | chayim | at least it would be if I could make it work =( |
| 20:48.50 | Hellaenergy | whats wrong with it? |
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| 21:01.33 | al- | so anyone here wanna help me out with a jndi datasource problem? :) |
| 21:04.28 | Hellaenergy | just ask the question and you may recieve |
| 21:04.48 | al- | well, i'm getting the "Cannot load JDBC driver class 'null'" error |
| 21:05.15 | al- | and it seems if i remove the datasource from tomcat config, it does the same thing |
| 21:05.21 | al- | so it's like it's not configured at all |
| 21:05.52 | Hellaenergy | is the jdbc.jar in your classpath? |
| 21:05.52 | al- | i have collections, pool, dbcp, and the jdbc driver in common/lib |
| 21:06.10 | al- | yeah, assuming common/lib is |
| 21:07.00 | Hellaenergy | al-: sorry but I must be going |
| 21:07.07 | Hellaenergy | good luck |
| 21:07.12 | al- | thanks |
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| 21:14.45 | pablo_ | hola |
| 21:15.13 | pablo_ | anyone alive? |
| 21:15.17 | al- | yes |
| 21:15.41 | pablo_ | using tomcat with windows? |
| 21:15.43 | pablo_ | IIS? |
| 21:15.52 | pablo_ | actually IIS doesn't matter |
| 21:15.58 | al- | i've never connected to a web server, but i've used it on windows |
| 21:16.30 | pablo_ | I want to set it up as an NT service.. I know how to do that using a couple of different methods... |
| 21:16.33 | pablo_ | but... |
| 21:16.50 | pablo_ | I need it to not shutdown when a user logs off |
| 21:17.28 | pablo_ | I've searched around and found that this is a bug in the JDK and can be prevented by passing the -xrs switch on startup |
| 21:17.39 | pablo_ | now I just need to figure out how to do this |
| 21:17.48 | al- | so you are running as a service now? |
| 21:17.57 | al- | and it dies when you log off? |
| 21:18.41 | pablo_ | i don't currently have it setup as a service... I did 2 days ago and in attempt to pass the -xrs I managed to bring the whole thing crashing down.... so today I did a fresh install |
| 21:19.15 | pablo_ | ...but yes... when it was setup as a service it was shutting down when a user logged off |
| 21:19.29 | pablo_ | I set it up using srvany.exe from the NT resource kit |
| 21:19.50 | al- | well, i've never messed with that much so i don't know |
| 21:20.00 | al- | but a long time ago i wrote this thing in java that ran as a service |
| 21:20.12 | al- | and i used this little C wrapper that uses the invocation api to start a jvm |
| 21:20.20 | al- | http://www.kcmultimedia.com/javaserv/ |
| 21:20.24 | al- | might be a little overkill though |
| 21:24.55 | pablo_ | I think the problem would still persist... if I understand correctly, when a user logs off windows sends events to all the running applications. Any NT service using JVM shuts down because of a bug in the SDK shutdown hooks |
| 21:26.17 | al- | well, the thing i wrote works fine |
| 21:26.23 | al- | it is using 1.3.1 though |
| 21:26.38 | pablo_ | hmm.. that's where the bug is... 1.2 should work. |
| 21:26.51 | pablo_ | haven't tried... but then again i need 1.3 |
| 21:37.55 | riand_ | I've been have some virtual host problems with Apache 1.3 and mod_jk2. |
| 21:38.32 | riand_ | Has anyone had luck with that combination? Or is it better to just move to apache 2? |
| 21:39.50 | jasonb | Apache 2. |
| 21:44.26 | riand_ | So the preferred combination is apache 2 and mod_jk2? |
| 21:44.41 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 21:44.50 | riand_ | Thank you. |
| 21:44.54 | jasonb | If you absolutely must use Apache httpd, that is. |
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| 21:46.01 | a4akb | Goodmorning! |
| 21:46.01 | a4akb | 12:45am here |
| 21:47.24 | a4akb | can anyone here tell me how to configure and use tomcat, apache on a network? |
| 21:47.49 | a4akb | dcs |
| 21:47.49 | a4akb | dcn even |
| 21:48.17 | riand_ | What is your preferred server? |
| 21:48.21 | a4akb | dcs=Disctributed Computer systems |
| 21:48.44 | a4akb | Dcn=Distributed computer networks |
| 21:48.44 | a4akb | i will be using tomcat atm |
| 21:49.40 | a4akb | but later i will be shuttling b/w tc n apache |
| 21:49.41 | al- | atm? |
| 21:50.18 | a4akb | at the moment |
| 21:50.19 | a4akb | b/w=between |
| 21:50.19 | a4akb | tc=tomcat |
| 21:50.19 | a4akb | n=and |
| 21:50.19 | a4akb | ty=thankyou |
| 21:50.20 | a4akb | tc=takecare |
| 21:50.34 | a4akb | imo=in my opinion |
| 21:50.42 | al- | so tc is tomcat or takecare? |
| 21:50.52 | al- | you have an ambiguous definition |
| 21:50.57 | a4akb | imho=in my humble opinion |
| 21:51.25 | a4akb | rtfmwp=read the flowery manal with pleasure |
| 21:51.29 | a4akb | anamoly always occurs al- |
| 21:52.13 | al- | what about stfu |
| 21:52.16 | al- | what does that mean |
| 21:52.17 | a4akb | to err is human |
| 21:52.17 | a4akb | to err err is by chance |
| 21:52.17 | a4akb | to err err err is addiction |
| 21:52.48 | a4akb | state of florida-Urban |
| 21:53.03 | al- | i think tomcat 4.1.18 is broken |
| 21:53.15 | al- | i am convinced that there is no jndi datasource support |
| 21:53.17 | al- | it is a trick |
| 21:53.21 | a4akb | now will anyone tell me |
| 21:53.40 | a4akb | ok al- get one jndi support and we will award u a noble piece price |
| 21:54.46 | a4akb | Alo |
| 21:55.17 | a4akb | jasonb have you woved to your loved ones that you will never talk to me again? |
| 21:55.40 | a4akb | vowed? |
| 21:56.42 | a4akb | it seems to me that kylev has gone in place of me to install tomcat on mars.. |
| 21:57.07 | a4akb | been more than a month since i heard him type / speak |
| 21:58.24 | a4akb | Hellaenergy, r u here? |
| 21:59.16 | a4akb | man today was the worst dust storm i ever faced in my whole life |
| 21:59.45 | a4akb | i had to look around and behind me as to who this person was standing at my back when i looked at myself in the mirror |
| 22:03.24 | jasonb | a4akb: I've just been super busy the last week or so.. |
| 22:03.31 | jasonb | a4akb: And, I'm at work now. |
| 22:04.03 | a4akb | ok |
| 22:04.17 | a4akb | i got two days off |
| 22:04.23 | a4akb | tomorrow and dayafter |
| 22:04.44 | a4akb | u better make up .. |
| 22:12.07 | a4akb | jasonb i will wait till you are free, hope atleast u help me out.. |
| 22:12.55 | a4akb | and i have experience of installing tomcat on almost any windows platform, opeartion unix,linux is on the lines very soon. |
| 22:12.59 | jasonb | a4akb: I'll be "free" sometime in May, by my current schedule. |
| 22:13.50 | a4akb | i did the documentation for xp professional installation :) |
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| 22:15.10 | jasonb | a4akb: Cool! |
| 22:15.36 | style}x{ | anyone tried Tomcat 5.0.1? (JSP 2.0 related question) |
| 22:15.38 | jasonb | a4akb: With the installer GUI, or with plain source? |
| 22:16.32 | style}x{ | the JSP 2.0 EL is sweet but I've run into an odd problem |
| 22:17.30 | style}x{ | yeah damn alpha code :P |
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| 22:17.58 | Minouris | Is there anyone here who can help me with a problem? |
| 22:18.25 | jasonb | no. |
| 22:18.56 | Minouris | Being cynical, jaded, or sarcastic? ;) It's hard to tell... |
| 22:19.07 | jasonb | All of the above. |
| 22:20.24 | Minouris | Fair enough. Seriously, my server (or my code, if that's what it turns out to be) is misbehaving badly, and I have a deadline to meet... what I meant was is anyone *willing* to help? |
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| 22:20.43 | jasonb | Minouris: Does this involve any Microsoft products? |
| 22:20.54 | Minouris | Not in any way, shape, or form. |
| 22:20.59 | al- | nice |
| 22:21.11 | al- | are you using an ssh client from a windows machine? |
| 22:21.17 | jasonb | Minouris: So what's the problem? |
| 22:21.32 | Minouris | Nope. Developing using Kate on my local machine in MDK 9 |
| 22:23.02 | Minouris | Cool :) Basically, I'm developing JSP using external classes in my web-inf dir. One of them, which has been working previously, is now no longer able to be called from my pages. The only change since the last time it worked was that the file was opened and read. |
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| 22:23.19 | ^ideally-idle^ | yo man its me akb |
| 22:23.59 | Minouris | Code examples provided where necessary. |
| 22:24.08 | jasonb | Minouris: Do you see anything about it in the log files? How do you know it's not working? |
| 22:24.34 | Minouris | Hang on... I'll check. |
| 22:25.04 | ^ideally-idle^ | so jasonb what have u been upto lately |
| 22:25.43 | jasonb | ^ideally-idle^: Hi akb. :) |
| 22:25.56 | ^ideally-idle^ | ? |
| 22:26.00 | ^ideally-idle^ | am i lagging? |
| 22:26.02 | ^ideally-idle^ | !ping me |
| 22:26.13 | ^ideally-idle^ | hi jason |
| 22:28.10 | Minouris | Basically, the only place in the logs where the class is mentioned is in the "symbol not found" sense. |
| 22:29.08 | jasonb | Minouris: You're saying that in the context of a C-like language, which we're not working with here. You'll need to paste in at least a line or two of the log file where the problem occurs, or tell us what's happening exactly. |
| 22:30.05 | Minouris | jasonb: Do-able. Where would you like me to paste it? At hellaweb, or just in here? |
| 22:30.44 | jasonb | Minouris: Like 4 lines of text, max, and paste it in right here so we can see what the problem is. If it needs to be more than 4 lines, then use hella's paste server thingy. |
| 22:31.00 | Minouris | jasonb: Nifty. Incoming :) |
| 22:31.06 | Minouris | /tomcat/work/Standalone/localhost/_/PUBLIC/course_assessment_jsp.java:84: cannot resolve symbol |
| 22:31.07 | Minouris | symbol : class assessment |
| 22:31.07 | Minouris | location: package colts |
| 22:31.07 | Minouris | colts.assessment Assessment = new colts.assessment(); |
| 22:31.08 | Minouris | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.37 | Minouris | jasonb: That's about all it has to say :P |
| 22:31.54 | al- | word |
| 22:32.38 | jasonb | So where is your colts.assessment class stored? |
| 22:33.21 | Minouris | jasonb: /$BASEDIR/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/classes/colts/ |
| 22:33.40 | Minouris | jasonb: Don't ask why it's in root... I don't like it either :P |
| 22:33.49 | jasonb | And /$BASEDIR is the path to your Tomcat installation? |
| 22:34.06 | Minouris | jasonb: Yep. /tomcat/, specifically. |
| 22:34.12 | jasonb | The ROOT webapp is actually a good place to test simple things in a stock Tomcat setup. |
| 22:34.43 | Minouris | jasonb: Yeah, but I wouldn't want to use it for the final deployment. Unfortunately my co-developers don't see it that way. |
| 22:34.58 | jasonb | Yeah, not for the final production deployment. |
| 22:35.31 | jasonb | Minouris: So are you trying to not use an import for that class? |
| 22:35.59 | jasonb | Minouris: I think you need to import it first, before using it like that.. (a guess) |
| 22:36.00 | Minouris | jasonb: The colts package is being imported using @page import |
| 22:36.13 | jasonb | Minouris: Can you paste that line in here? |
| 22:36.21 | al- | i bet it is getting confused because it's in lowercase |
| 22:36.37 | Minouris | <%@ page import="colts.*" %> |
| 22:36.46 | jasonb | al-: He's certainly got nonstandard case going on, but that actually shouldn't confuse the compiler. |
| 22:36.58 | al- | i've seen it before |
| 22:37.08 | al- | where it can't tell whether something is a class or a declared variable |
| 22:37.19 | al- | it should know, but i have seen it get confused |
| 22:37.20 | Minouris | jasonb: *ahem* Yeah... I sort of used to be a VB developer. Some of my naming conventions come from there. I'm better now. ;) |
| 22:37.24 | jasonb | al-: Based on case alone?? I really doubt that. |
| 22:37.44 | al- | the situation was weird |
| 22:37.51 | al- | we have a class called "asuwebauth" |
| 22:37.52 | al- | with no package |
| 22:38.07 | al- | and if you try and call "asuwebauth.whatever()" it won't try and load the class |
| 22:38.13 | al- | unless you import |
| 22:38.34 | Minouris | al-: Should I try and import the class independantly of the package then? |
| 22:38.44 | al- | that may be something to try |
| 22:38.52 | Minouris | BRB- I'll give it a go :) |
| 22:38.59 | jasonb | Minouris: Yeah, you could try that. |
| 22:39.00 | al- | i personally would rename all the classes according to the convention :) |
| 22:39.19 | al- | well, i'm outta here |
| 22:39.20 | al- | good luck |
| 22:39.21 | jasonb | al-: Would asuwebauth.whatever() be a static method? And, did you have any member named "asuwebauth" as well? |
| 22:39.34 | al- | yeah, it was static |
| 22:39.40 | al- | and no, there was no method named that |
| 22:40.01 | jasonb | Minouris: Class names are supposed to start with a CapitalLetterLikeThis. Package names are supposed to be in all lowercase. |
| 22:40.12 | jasonb | al-: No, not method, but member.. |
| 22:40.23 | al- | no member either |
| 22:40.24 | jasonb | al-: As in "member variable". |
| 22:40.55 | jasonb | al-: Strange. Sometimes without declaring your class being in a package, weird things happen that you might not expect. |
| 22:40.59 | al- | i would expect it to first check the symbol table then try and load the class |
| 22:41.04 | al- | but who knows |
| 22:41.05 | jasonb | al-: But, I still don't think it has to do with case. |
| 22:44.36 | Minouris | al-: Okay... tried that. Result remains the same. |
| 22:44.48 | Minouris | jasonb: Good to know- thanks :) |
| 22:45.07 | ^ideally-idle^ | hm |
| 22:46.05 | ^ideally-idle^ | hey jasonb send me some good codes will ya |
| 22:46.08 | ^ideally-idle^ | anykind |
| 22:46.25 | Minouris | BRB- have to talk to the Pointy-Haired one for a minute... |
| 22:46.39 | jasonb | Minouris: Do this: "ls -la /tomcat/webapps/ROOT/classes/colts/assessment.class" |
| 22:46.47 | jasonb | (and paste in the output) |
| 22:47.26 | jasonb | ^ideally-idle^: perl -e '$r="rules";$r=~s%^(.)()%$1$2%;$a=$1;$a++;$r=~s~r~$a~;$y=$^F+ord a;$y=ch |
| 22:47.27 | jasonb | r($y);$r=~s+l+$y+;$r=~s-^(...)(.)-$1k-;print"Perl $r.$/"' |
| 22:47.48 | ^ideally-idle^ | :/ |
| 22:48.20 | ^ideally-idle^ | one perl costs $1K |
| 22:48.35 | ^ideally-idle^ | ford costs $y? |
| 22:48.55 | ^ideally-idle^ | :( |
| 22:50.40 | jasonb | ^ideally-idle^: If you want to see good code, look at the Tomcat source. |
| 22:51.02 | ^ideally-idle^ | what is it written in? |
| 22:51.05 | ^ideally-idle^ | c? |
| 22:51.07 | jasonb | Java! |
| 22:51.22 | ^ideally-idle^ | cool |
| 22:51.55 | ^ideally-idle^ | jasonb what do u know about sap? |
| 22:52.20 | jasonb | ^ideally-idle^: Enough to know not to bother with it. |
| 22:52.36 | ^ideally-idle^ | a sap specialist earns around 15K$ pm with just 6 yr experience? |
| 22:52.48 | ^ideally-idle^ | that is gross and so unfair :( |
| 22:53.17 | ^ideally-idle^ | lol man |
| 22:53.45 | Minouris | jasonb: Sorry for the delay... result was: ls: /tomcat/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/classes.colts/assessment.class: No such file or directory |
| 22:53.54 | Minouris | jasonb: So it's not being compiled. |
| 22:54.09 | ^ideally-idle^ | MONEY CANT BUY ME EVERYTHING MONEY CANT BUY ME LOVE |
| 22:54.13 | jasonb | Minouris: No.. "ls -la /tomcat/webapps/ROOT/classes/colts/assessment.class" |
| 22:54.19 | ^ideally-idle^ | cant buy me love ;) |
| 22:54.35 | jasonb | oops.. |
| 22:54.52 | jasonb | "ls -la /tomcat/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/classes/colts/assessment.class" |
| 22:55.00 | jasonb | (that one) |
| 22:55.42 | Minouris | jasonb: Same again. I mistyped the path in the result- my bad. |
| 22:56.03 | jasonb | Minouris: Okay, so the absence of the class file at that path is your problem. |
| 22:56.04 | Minouris | ^ideally-idle^: That's just what they want you to believe ;) |
| 22:56.14 | ^ideally-idle^ | :) |
| 22:56.29 | Minouris | jasonb: However, the root of that problem would be why the class isn't compiling. It normally would be. |
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| 22:57.29 | jasonb | Minouris: The JSP won't compile into a servlet class due to the fact that the colts/assessment.class isn't found, and that's because your class file for that isn't in the right place. |
| 22:57.55 | jasonb | Minouris: If it used to compile before with that class in the wrong place, then you got lucky somehow. :) |
| 22:58.09 | Minouris | jasonb: Is it better to let Tomcat compile the class automatically, or to do it manually? Previously, if the class hasn't existed it's been compiled on the fly from the .java file for the class. |
| 22:58.52 | Minouris | jasonb: I suspect there's a lot of blind luck involved :) The .java is in the same path. |
| 22:59.26 | jasonb | Minouris: The JSP compiler doesn't take regular .java source files and compile them.. that's your job. As far as the .jsp files go, I'd suggest letting Tomcat auto-generate and compile those at 1st request time. |
| 22:59.26 | ^ideally-idle^ | hmm |
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| 22:59.50 | ^ideally-idle^ | yo man maple trees r now grown in mexico |
| 22:59.53 | jasonb | I'll be back in a little bit.. |
| 22:59.53 | ^ideally-idle^ | how r ya mapleman |
| 23:00.06 | ^ideally-idle^ | k jasonb n when u r back i will be talking |
| 23:00.07 | Minouris | jasonb: I'll try compiling the class manually... |
| 23:00.20 | ^ideally-idle^ | and it will be a long talk ok? |
| 23:02.01 | Minouris | jasonb: Cool- see ya later :) |
| 23:02.13 | Minouris | Anyone else able to pick up where jasonb left off? :) |
| 23:02.18 | ^ideally-idle^ | bye |
| 23:02.39 | ^ideally-idle^ | yeah Minouris thats enough for today :) takesome rest and start afresh when u wake up :D |
| 23:03.12 | Minouris | ^ideally-idle^: It's only mid day here- I'm in NZ :) I guess I could get lunch *l* |
| 23:03.41 | ^ideally-idle^ | lol |
| 23:03.44 | ^ideally-idle^ | good idea |
| 23:04.34 | Minouris | Cool- back later :) The manual class compilation wasn't happy- I think it's an issue with my $CLASSPATH... anyway, when I get back :) |
| 23:06.32 | ^ideally-idle^ | :) |
| 23:20.09 | Minouris | Hmmm... watery coke, luke warm burger and onion rings that taste like dish-detergent. Guess who's been to BK ;) |
| 23:22.45 | Minouris | Okay..e the result of the manual compile is: /tomcat/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/classes/colts/assessment.java:13: error:Super class "<gen>" is not accessible : it is not in the same package and not public [JLS 8.1.3, 6.6] |
| 23:24.20 | Minouris | Anybody? <:) |
| 23:25.26 | ^ideally-idle^ | hey i just had whooper from burger king a while ago |
| 23:26.13 | Minouris | ^ideally-idle^: I'm required to be cynical. I think it's like a law or something. *l* |
| 23:27.39 | ^ideally-idle^ | :) |
| 23:29.51 | Minouris | So, any clue as to what causes this <gen> not accessible thingy? :) |
| 23:44.41 | ^ideally-idle^ | sorry but i never faced that Minouris so i cant help :/ |
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| 23:46.26 | Minouris | D'oh! Ah well.... thanks anyway <:) |
| 23:46.50 | Minouris | Hmmm.... time to work on my future cancer. BRB. |
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