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| 02:00.34 | bun0 | does anyone recall where to find the steps on having each user's home/public_html dir as a publishable area? |
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| 04:54.10 | snuz | hi |
| 04:54.40 | snuz | hi jasonb |
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| 05:25.18 | _akb_ | Goodmorning. |
| 05:26.51 | Spline | hhheeeeyyyy |
| 05:26.57 | Spline | ibot: akb |
| 05:26.57 | | Spline: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 05:27.03 | Spline | ibot: akb |
| 05:27.04 | | Spline: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 05:27.07 | Spline | hmm... |
| 05:27.11 | Spline | you need an URL |
| 05:27.26 | _akb_ | hey Spline |
| 05:27.28 | _akb_ | how are you? |
| 05:27.35 | _akb_ | i need a url? |
| 05:27.41 | _akb_ | ibot: Spline |
| 05:27.42 | | spline is, like, at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Teaching/1999/AGraphHCI/SMAG/node5.html |
| 05:27.52 | _akb_ | cool |
| 05:28.17 | Spline | lol |
| 05:28.21 | Spline | I'm OK |
| 05:28.28 | Spline | are you a member of experts exchange? |
| 05:29.17 | Spline | ok cool :) |
| 05:29.31 | Spline | ibot: akb is a fine upstanding member at http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Platforms/Unix_Programming/memberProfile.jsp?mbr=akb |
| 05:29.32 | | Spline: okay |
| 05:29.34 | Spline | hehehehe |
| 05:29.41 | Spline | now you get to find something better and correct ibot :) |
| 05:29.44 | _akb_ | i heard of monitary exchange, student exchange but i dont know whats expert exchange |
| 05:30.17 | _akb_ | man someone has my nick here :`( |
| 05:30.30 | _akb_ | akb<-- thats me but someone else has that |
| 05:30.47 | Spline | I know :) |
| 05:30.57 | Spline | did you see the one I found for Hellaenergy? |
| 05:30.58 | Spline | lol |
| 05:31.05 | _akb_ | no |
| 05:31.24 | Spline | well look at it :) |
| 05:31.36 | _akb_ | where? |
| 05:31.41 | Spline | ask ibot |
| 05:32.00 | _akb_ | ibot: hella |
| 05:32.01 | | _akb_: are you using Windows? |
| 05:32.10 | _akb_ | ibot: Hellaenergy |
| 05:32.10 | | i guess hellaenergy is a neat idea at http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0401/hotrocks.html |
| 05:32.19 | _akb_ | yeah ibot |
| 05:32.30 | _akb_ | landoverbaptist? |
| 05:32.53 | Spline | read the article :) |
| 05:33.12 | _akb_ | hey Spline i got some news did u read it? http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/5 |
| 05:35.15 | _akb_ | nice one Spline :) |
| 05:35.25 | _akb_ | support the nra, stone disobidient students! |
| 05:35.31 | Spline | Yea I saw that article on slashdot |
| 05:35.31 | _akb_ | cool |
| 05:35.33 | _akb_ | :P |
| 05:36.03 | _akb_ | where are you from Spline |
| 05:38.11 | Hellaenergy | Did I hear domeone knock? |
| 05:38.56 | _akb_ | hey Hellaenergy |
| 05:40.36 | _akb_ | hey cool :) |
| 05:40.53 | _akb_ | somebody else here is from DC as well isnt it? |
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| 05:45.58 | Spline | not sure |
| 05:46.06 | _akb_ | ok |
| 05:47.22 | _akb_ | when i try to open a pdf file it gives a message "there was an error opening this document, the viewer cant decrypt this doc" |
| 05:47.36 | _akb_ | what should i do? i redownloaded it but again same msg :( |
| 05:49.50 | _akb_ | so what are you upto hella |
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| 05:57.23 | Igor01 | hi all |
| 05:58.09 | Igor01 | does deployment descriptor file has to exist for any servlet to be found on tomcat at all? |
| 06:00.38 | Igor01 | does anyone alive? |
| 06:03.39 | Hellaenergy | what deployment descriptor are you refering to? |
| 06:03.41 | Hellaenergy | web.xml |
| 06:06.20 | Spline | you need a deployment descriptor to access servlets through tomcat, unless you are using the invoker servlet, and that's not recommended for a production environment |
| 06:06.29 | Spline | akb: I have no idea about PDF encryption, sorry :) |
| 06:06.43 | _akb_ | :) |
| 06:06.57 | _akb_ | its ok, thanks for noticing |
| 06:07.01 | _akb_ | :) |
| 06:07.40 | _akb_ | i thought no one read that |
| 06:09.14 | Igor01 | Hellaenergy, thanks, but is there a way to access servlet directly by using http://server:port/servlet/path-to-servlet/ |
| 06:09.26 | Igor01 | Hellaenergy, i mean without using web.xml at all? |
| 06:10.17 | Spline | yea, read up on the invoker servlet |
| 06:10.21 | Spline | use it on a dev box |
| 06:10.26 | Spline | ibot: invoker |
| 06:10.26 | | Spline: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 06:10.31 | Spline | ibot: invokerservlet |
| 06:10.32 | | wish i knew, Spline |
| 06:10.35 | Spline | bah |
| 06:11.00 | Igor01 | hm |
| 06:11.03 | _akb_ | ibot: akb |
| 06:11.04 | | methinks akb is a fine upstanding member at http://www.experts-exchange.com/Programming/Programming_Platforms/Unix_Programming/memberProfile.jsp?mbr=akb |
| 06:11.05 | Hellaenergy | Igor01: As Spline said you can using the invoker servlet |
| 06:11.24 | Spline | ibot: deployment is at http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/appdev/deployment.html |
| 06:11.25 | | Spline: okay |
| 06:11.25 | Hellaenergy | but then you even have to put it in the global web.xml |
| 06:11.35 | Igor01 | Hellaenergy, that really sucks, old tomcat versions allowed direct servlet invocation :( |
| 06:11.36 | _akb_ | hey spline remove that url please, as its not me! |
| 06:11.39 | Igor01 | thanks though |
| 06:13.04 | Spline | ibot: invoker is at http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~downeyt/cgs4825/context.html |
| 06:13.05 | | okay, Spline |
| 06:13.12 | Spline | akb: /msg ibot help |
| 06:13.16 | Spline | >:) |
| 06:13.26 | _akb_ | :) |
| 06:13.28 | Spline | igor: newer ones do too |
| 06:15.52 | Spline | Igor: from the release notes: |
| 06:15.53 | Spline | ------------------------ |
| 06:15.53 | Spline | Enabling invoker servlet: |
| 06:15.53 | Spline | ------------------------ |
| 06:15.53 | Spline | Starting with Tomcat 4.1.12, the invoker servlet is no longer available by |
| 06:15.53 | Spline | default in all webapp. Enabling it for all webapps is possible by editing |
| 06:15.55 | Spline | $CATALINA_HOME/conf/web.xml to uncomment the "/servlet/*" servlet-mapping |
| 06:15.57 | Spline | definition. |
| 06:15.59 | Spline | Using the invoker servlet in a production environment is not recommended and |
| 06:16.01 | Spline | is unsupported. |
| 06:18.03 | Igor01 | Spline got it thanks |
| 06:18.43 | Spline | n/p |
| 06:19.33 | _akb_ | hey i got a cd that came with a mag, it says it gives u the feel of linux 8 environment when we run the CD, some knoppix cd |
| 06:19.39 | _akb_ | ever heard of it? |
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| 06:27.47 | Spline | I have heard about knoppix, but now a lot |
| 06:27.51 | Spline | s/now/not |
| 06:28.02 | _akb_ | :) |
| 06:28.09 | _akb_ | ok |
| 06:28.16 | _akb_ | the mag says knoppix unveiled |
| 06:28.24 | _akb_ | a linux flavor you can try without installing |
| 06:29.30 | _akb_ | xp sux, it dosent have any jre or jvm and i cant run my scanner on it as its drivers are not there |
| 06:30.51 | _akb_ | can i have unix, linux and xp all on the same pc.. i dont know if the processor would recall addition after that.. |
| 06:36.11 | _akb_ | great! that knopix crashed and my other system is stuck |
| 06:36.26 | _akb_ | does ctrl alt del work there too? as it isnt responding! |
| 06:44.58 | Spline | whew |
| 06:45.18 | Spline | if it crashed and its stuck, you might try ctrl-alt-del, or ctrl-alt-backspace if I recall |
| 06:45.31 | Spline | also alt+f1, alt+f2, alt+f3, alt+f4 |
| 06:46.14 | _akb_ | i just inserted a pin in the emergency eject pin head hole and removed the cd, rebooted it.. |
| 06:47.21 | _akb_ | hey Spline what do u suggest, am new to unix/linux/bsd etc |
| 06:47.44 | _akb_ | what should i try out first? unix? then linux? or directly go 4 linux |
| 07:12.29 | Spline | what are you trying to do with it? |
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| 07:34.34 | _akb_ | learn |
| 07:34.39 | _akb_ | play around |
| 07:56.28 | Spline | hmm... I'd say linux is your best bet |
| 07:56.32 | Spline | java on BSD is flaky |
| 07:56.54 | Spline | and, as I am talking to you in #tomcat, I imagine you would care about that :) |
| 07:57.22 | Spline | by the way, you can correct ibot by asking about yourself, then telling it "no, <thing> is at <url>" |
| 07:58.04 | _akb_ | :) |
| 07:58.30 | _akb_ | ty |
| 07:58.35 | Spline | no prob |
| 07:58.43 | _akb_ | what took u so long to reply |
| 07:58.44 | Spline | i have a very high chat latency this evening |
| 07:58.59 | Spline | I am working on making a JSP / servlet app use an EJB I just wrote |
| 07:59.12 | _akb_ | cool |
| 07:59.15 | _akb_ | :) |
| 07:59.38 | _akb_ | why is java on BSD is flaky? |
| 08:00.51 | Spline | nobody makes jvms for *BSD |
| 08:01.01 | Spline | Actually I heard one came out recently |
| 08:01.13 | Spline | but its definitely not the "preferred" platform :) |
| 08:01.55 | _akb_ | oh ic |
| 08:06.39 | _akb_ | do u know any links for cool dhtml menus? |
| 08:06.58 | Spline | hmm |
| 08:07.03 | Spline | bratta.com used to be the place |
| 08:07.15 | Spline | I made one that works nicely in mozilla and ie5+ |
| 08:07.22 | Spline | you can steal it from my web site http://www.isisnetworks.net |
| 08:07.32 | Spline | if you can figure out how >:) |
| 08:07.43 | _akb_ | :D |
| 08:07.52 | Spline | if you do, please leave a link to my site in it or something :) |
| 08:08.03 | _akb_ | :P |
| 08:08.27 | _akb_ | thats the problem, they all want a link :/ |
| 08:08.31 | Spline | there's also a neat IE only DHTML animation piece in there :) |
| 08:08.34 | Spline | bah |
| 08:08.41 | Spline | you don't have to put a link on your site or anything |
| 08:08.47 | _akb_ | cool |
| 08:08.47 | Spline | just embed it in the JS comments or something :) |
| 08:09.01 | _akb_ | :D |
| 08:09.09 | _akb_ | ok if i take yours i will for sure |
| 08:09.24 | Spline | mine might be hard to understand |
| 08:09.30 | Spline | I did it with javascript objects |
| 08:09.31 | _akb_ | hey u made this using what? |
| 08:09.37 | Spline | notepad |
| 08:09.41 | _akb_ | then send me the code urself ;) |
| 08:09.42 | Spline | and photoshop |
| 08:09.56 | Spline | heheh nooo... the fun is figuring out all the includes |
| 08:09.57 | _akb_ | cool |
| 08:10.27 | _akb_ | nce site |
| 08:11.44 | Spline | thanks :) |
| 08:12.08 | _akb_ | yw |
| 08:13.47 | _akb_ | hey Spline u got any good online resource or book on dhtml? |
| 08:14.01 | _akb_ | where i can learn Dhtml and make it myself? |
| 08:17.18 | Spline | hmm |
| 08:17.23 | Spline | I did this stuff over a year ago |
| 08:17.31 | Spline | I used msdn a lot for the IE stuff |
| 08:17.40 | Spline | had to hunt all over the web for the mozilla stuff |
| 08:17.47 | Spline | devzone at netscape was nice |
| 08:18.11 | _akb_ | cool ty |
| 08:20.37 | Spline | Hey, do you happen to know if there is a way to tell Tomcat what package to put a compiled JSP in? |
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| 08:22.16 | KarolR | hi all |
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| 08:29.19 | Spline | lo |
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| 08:41.09 | Hairy1 | Hi everyone |
| 08:41.56 | Hairy1 | I'm having an issue moving from 4.0 to 4.1 |
| 08:42.40 | Hairy1 | Is this the appropriate forum for Tomcat help? |
| 08:44.30 | KarolR | yes |
| 08:44.33 | Spline | yes, but there aren't many people here now :) |
| 08:45.58 | Hairy1 | I was wondering if there have been changes to web.xml between 4.0 and 4.1. Applications which deploy fine on 4.0 are not working on 4.1. Its not the usual suspects - ie common libraries. |
| 08:46.11 | Spline | hmmm |
| 08:46.22 | Spline | I think both 4.0 and 4.1 are supposed to support servlet 2.3 |
| 08:46.34 | Spline | web.xml is defined in servlet 2.3 |
| 08:47.29 | Hairy1 | The web.xml of examples in 4.1 has some new stuff around filters it would seem - is it now seem filters are compulsory? I've read the sevlet 2.3 spec, can't see why I can't run even a simple servlet in 4.1 |
| 08:49.34 | Spline | I don't think filters are mandatory |
| 08:49.58 | Spline | I have never used 4.0, but I have deployed some very simple web.xml's to 4.1 |
| 08:52.26 | Hairy1 | bizzare |
| 08:58.27 | KarolR | could you perhaps /msg me the web.xml ? |
| 08:58.47 | KarolR | Maybe there was a bug in 4.0 that you'd been using and is fixed in 4.1 ;-) |
| 09:00.36 | Hairy1 | Im just going through a real basic webapp on both 4.0 and 4.1. I'll let you know what I find. |
| 09:03.29 | Spline | hmm |
| 09:03.37 | Spline | why don't you post your broken web.xml on hellabot? |
| 09:03.41 | Spline | http://www.hellaweb.com |
| 09:08.18 | jkk | hey Spline |
| 09:08.22 | Spline | hey |
| 09:09.21 | jkk | gonna finish iwork soon |
| 09:10.04 | Spline | finish? |
| 09:10.18 | Spline | and I thought you were calling it restwork? |
| 09:12.44 | Hairy1 | HTTP Status 404 - /nbn/servlets/HelloWorldExample |
| 09:12.46 | Hairy1 | type Status report |
| 09:12.47 | Hairy1 | message /nbn/servlets/HelloWorldExample |
| 09:12.48 | Hairy1 | description The requested resource (/nbn/servlets/HelloWorldExample) is not available. |
| 09:12.50 | Hairy1 | Apache Tomcat/4.1.18 |
| 09:12.57 | jkk | Spline: i split it into two packages, rester and iwork |
| 09:13.11 | jkk | since nobody prolly cares about the REST part but me |
| 09:13.38 | Hairy1 | This error occurs even tho there is HelloWorld Example in the classes dir - in a new app with a minimal web.xml |
| 09:13.53 | Spline | so iwork == request/response model? |
| 09:14.10 | jkk | yeah |
| 09:14.19 | jkk | iwork is a generic request processing framework |
| 09:14.26 | jkk | heavily based on interceptors |
| 09:14.32 | Spline | and I could backend it on EJB, Avalon, whatever? |
| 09:14.38 | jkk | yup! |
| 09:14.41 | Spline | and front end it with swing, servlets, ehatever? |
| 09:14.49 | jkk | any time you need to process a request in a well defined manner |
| 09:14.54 | Spline | hmmmm |
| 09:15.09 | jkk | i'm working on a framework to intergrate it with Swing |
| 09:15.11 | Spline | you know I am thinking that would be nice embedded in a workflow engine |
| 09:15.16 | Spline | or even a werkflow engine :) |
| 09:15.55 | jkk | particularly, networked Swing programs where user actions often result in putting a Request object on a queue, and another thread taking it off and calling out to the network |
| 09:16.07 | jkk | not sure exactly how that should work. |
| 09:16.24 | Spline | hmm |
| 09:16.28 | Spline | have you looked at JMS? |
| 09:16.46 | Spline | or do you want to reinvent all the wheels, and axles, and belts, and gears? |
| 09:16.48 | Spline | ;) |
| 09:17.04 | jkk | not a queue silly like that, an internal queue used for communicating between the gui thread and a thread that talks to the network |
| 09:17.49 | Spline | sure, why wouldn't you use message queueing for that? |
| 09:18.01 | jkk | for an internal queue in an app? |
| 09:18.06 | jkk | that'd be way overkill |
| 09:18.11 | Spline | hmm |
| 09:18.12 | jkk | JMS isn't for use within a single program |
| 09:18.22 | Spline | I thought message queueing could be used in either way |
| 09:18.33 | Spline | Granted, I haven't done MQ on java yet |
| 09:18.33 | jkk | no, JMS is for queues on a network |
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| 09:18.43 | Spline | but I have used MSMQ that way |
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| 09:20.37 | jkk | Spline: within a single app inside a single VM? |
| 09:20.55 | jkk | why would you use MSMQ if you're not sending messages over a network? |
| 09:27.04 | Spline | asynchronous message oriented programming is nice |
| 09:27.16 | Spline | for instance, logging |
| 09:27.56 | Spline | or, more meaty stuff like password reset pipelines in a web app |
| 09:28.05 | jkk | yeah but not within a single app |
| 09:28.27 | Spline | your message recipient in your app can decide whether or not to send the message on to a network queue or to process it |
| 09:28.36 | Spline | yea, in a single app |
| 09:29.02 | Spline | I may not want to go out to the network and back to the local server to generate the email for a password reset |
| 09:30.44 | jkk | but that's very different |
| 09:30.51 | jkk | i'm talking about a simple blocking queue |
| 09:32.09 | Spline | oh |
| 09:32.12 | Spline | not asynchronous? |
| 09:32.54 | Spline | Maybe I don't understand the pattern you are talking about in GUI apps |
| 09:33.15 | Spline | what kind of request would I put on a queue for another request to pop and drop onto the network? |
| 09:35.00 | jkk | for a thin client |
| 09:35.13 | jkk | most gui actions result in a blocking request being sent out |
| 09:35.22 | jkk | then the response being processed and the gui being updated somehow |
| 09:36.32 | Spline | usually theres some sort of progress bar for anything "blocking" that takes a while |
| 09:37.02 | Spline | Hmm.. why limit yourself to network oriented request response models? |
| 09:37.28 | Spline | why not build iwork as a model for request processing between any two pieces of software? |
| 09:37.30 | jkk | well a progress bar is impossible for an app that must issue an http request and process the response |
| 09:37.36 | jkk | Spline: that's what iwork is |
| 09:37.46 | Spline | Only if it uses HTTP 1.1 chunking |
| 09:38.10 | Spline | so I could use it within my own app? |
| 09:38.12 | jkk | in fact, i imagine apps where they have multiple iwork pipelines invoked |
| 09:38.14 | Spline | a single app I mean? |
| 09:38.21 | jkk | Spline: yeah |
| 09:38.33 | Spline | I think I need to learn JMS |
| 09:38.47 | Spline | Because I expected it to provide that capability already |
| 09:38.51 | Spline | minus the pipelines |
| 09:39.04 | jkk | hmm no |
| 09:39.10 | jkk | they are very, very different things |
| 09:40.23 | Spline | Doesn't JMS provide a request processing model? |
| 09:41.23 | jkk | no |
| 09:41.31 | jkk | JMS provides a basic way of sending messages |
| 09:41.38 | jkk | publish/subscribe or point-to-point |
| 09:41.55 | jkk | JMS has little to do with actual request processing |
| 09:42.45 | Spline | oh OK |
| 09:42.54 | Spline | so iwork could sit on one end of a JMS telephone |
| 09:43.43 | jkk | yeah it'd make sense to use iwork there |
| 09:44.12 | jkk | in fact i use iwork there except i dont use JMS for pub/sub, i use Elvin |
| 09:44.29 | Spline | whats elvin? |
| 09:44.38 | jkk | which is a lot more performant and flexible than JMS but doesn't provide transactional message delivery |
| 09:44.43 | jkk | ask google about 'elvin je4' |
| 09:46.22 | Spline | interesting |
| 09:47.20 | Spline | ibot: elvin is a notification/messaging service at http://elvin.dstc.edu.au/projects/je4/ |
| 09:47.21 | | Spline: okay |
| 09:49.04 | jkk | elvin is very powerful and extremely fast |
| 09:49.21 | jkk | it can deliver 80,000 events _each_ second |
| 09:49.25 | Spline | is there a java server? |
| 09:49.31 | Spline | the main site doesn't seem to think so |
| 09:49.41 | jkk | there is no java server, there's only a highly tuned C server for unix/win |
| 09:50.07 | jkk | but the people who run elvin are kind of dicks which is why you might wanna consider jabber |
| 09:50.17 | jkk | but jabber has nowhere near the performance of elvin :/ |
| 09:51.35 | Spline | dicks meaning what? |
| 09:52.17 | jkk | well up until just recently |
| 09:52.25 | jkk | it was essentially illegal to redistribute elvin |
| 09:52.49 | jkk | and the license of elvin is very imprecise about when you need a license and when you dont |
| 09:53.00 | jkk | for example, elvin is free for non-commercial use and research |
| 09:53.11 | jkk | but if you're doing research for the military it's suddenly not free |
| 09:53.28 | jkk | i guess because they assume the military pays well |
| 09:53.28 | Spline | how confusing |
| 09:54.03 | jkk | but there are people developing commercial solutions on elvin |
| 09:54.14 | jkk | which makes me worried it'll become a commercial product one day |
| 09:54.48 | jkk | i wonder how hard it'd be to put together a high performance pub/sub system |
| 09:54.57 | jkk | jini has a pub/sub system built in |
| 09:55.04 | jasonb | Jabber really sucks. |
| 09:55.15 | PW_Wrk | huh? |
| 09:55.22 | jkk | Spline: the nice thing about elvin is it has C++, java, python and perl bindings too |
| 09:55.29 | jasonb | PW_Wrk: You a Jabber guy? :) |
| 09:55.30 | jkk | jasonb: yeah, jabber does suck |
| 09:56.08 | PW_Wrk | I'm using it daily |
| 09:56.22 | jkk | last i checked, even after all this time and with jabber on the verge of becoming a ietf protocol, there is no decent, free, ri jabber server |
| 09:56.31 | PW_Wrk | it works fine here |
| 09:56.49 | PW_Wrk | ri? |
| 09:57.15 | jkk | reference implementation |
| 09:57.21 | jkk | PW_Wrk: what jabber server do you use? |
| 09:57.58 | PW_Wrk | I don't have a jabber server myself, I use jabber.dk and a friends server jabber.shd.dk |
| 09:58.11 | jkk | it seems like everybody and their grandmother has built their own jabber server, half of em in java, but they're all unusable. |
| 09:58.25 | jkk | PW_Wrk: well do you know what server they use? i'm interested in any decent server |
| 09:58.39 | jkk | doesn't even have ta be java... |
| 09:58.51 | PW_Wrk | jabber.dk is running on debian, that's all I know |
| 09:58.54 | jasonb | The clients are all GPL'd, which sucks. And, the Jabber server is extremely sloppy code, often doesn't compile right out of the box, some GPL and some not, just a total wreck. |
| 09:59.17 | jkk | hmmm, i wonder how it'd be to whip up a Tomcat Connector so people could write Jabberlets |
| 09:59.26 | jasonb | Even using the GPL'd Jabber clients, none of them are very good. |
| 09:59.33 | jkk | jasonb: actually i found a really nice Jabber client |
| 09:59.40 | jasonb | jkk: For Linux? |
| 09:59.44 | PW_Wrk | Psi |
| 09:59.49 | PW_Wrk | is what I use |
| 09:59.50 | jasonb | jkk: And is it GPL'd? |
| 10:01.06 | jkk | hold on lemme find it |
| 10:01.34 | PW_Wrk | you can ask the guy behind jabber.dk: wille@jabber.dk |
| 10:02.06 | jkk | http://www.jivesoftware.com/xmpp/smack/ |
| 10:02.06 | PW_Wrk | a good client: http://psi.affinix.com/ |
| 10:02.18 | PW_Wrk | it's GPL'ed |
| 10:02.21 | jkk | jasonb: actually, http://www.jivesoftware.com/xmpp/smack/ is not a client heh |
| 10:02.24 | jkk | it's a client api |
| 10:02.51 | jkk | which is again slightly disappointin as there are no good apis |
| 10:02.55 | jkk | err, servers |
| 10:03.22 | PW_Wrk | what specifically is the problem with the servers? |
| 10:03.52 | jkk | well i investigated jabber maybe 6-8 months ago |
| 10:04.29 | jkk | could never get a lot of servers to run, the few that ran we very buggy, and the few that weren't buggy were just slow |
| 10:04.47 | jkk | you'd think the jabber community would buckle down and produce one high-quality reference implementation of the server |
| 10:05.00 | jkk | but afaik, that's never happened which is very unfortunate |
| 10:06.13 | PW_Wrk | lots can have happened in 6-8 months - jabber.dk likely uses this server: http://jabberd.jabberstudio.org/ |
| 10:07.04 | jkk | it'd be cool to write Jabberlets though... Java servlets that processed jabber requests. Mebbe if the javajabber.net server goes anywhere i'll whip up a tomcat connector |
| 10:07.36 | jkk | PW_Wrk: jabberd is only for linux? |
| 10:07.50 | jkk | hmm this is interesting tho |
| 10:07.53 | jkk | thanks PW_Wrk |
| 10:08.56 | jkk | actually, i wonder if it'd be possible to take a java client api, and use give a server a jabber id and use the client api from a tomcat connector so every request sent to the id was fed into tomcat |
| 10:10.58 | jkk | hmm that prolly would have limited use tho |
| 10:11.03 | PW_Wrk | np jkk |
| 10:11.23 | PW_Wrk | I have no jabber server experience though |
| 10:11.45 | PW_Wrk | what is unstable in regards to jabber, is the gateways |
| 10:14.16 | PW_Wrk | isn't soap and jabber two different things? |
| 10:15.17 | jasonb | Yes, and that's a good thing. :) |
| 10:15.38 | PW_Wrk | hehe |
| 10:15.44 | PW_Wrk | but why do you compare it them? |
| 10:16.42 | PW_Wrk | I would drive in an Audi RS6 before I would jump out from a window on forth floor |
| 10:16.58 | jasonb | Jabber communicates over TCP sockets using XML message bodies.. same with SOAP. Jabber started as a hacky chat server, but decided to instead be a general purpose message passing mechanism, SOAP started out that way. Jabber came from a very small & lame company, SOAP came from large software companies. |
| 10:18.19 | PW_Wrk | so? |
| 10:18.31 | jasonb | So Jabber sucks. |
| 10:18.38 | jkk | jasonb: jabber is pubsub, event based. SOAP is point-to-point. |
| 10:18.39 | PW_Wrk | what you're saying is that Linux sucks too? |
| 10:18.44 | jkk | in truth, they both suck. |
| 10:19.00 | jasonb | jkk: But SOAP can be pub sub too if one wants it to be. |
| 10:19.08 | jkk | jasonb: err... not really |
| 10:19.39 | jasonb | jkk: Sure it can. You just need to write a layer over the SOAP server that deals with subscriptions, and there you go. |
| 10:19.47 | jkk | SOAP is inherently request/response. you can do asynchronous soap in which there is no immediate response i guess... and then turn that into a pubsub mechanism... but ewww |
| 10:19.55 | jasonb | jkk: SOAP does suck too, but not as bad as Jabber. |
| 10:20.00 | PW_Wrk | MS word .doc format is good too? that certainly came from a large company... |
| 10:20.41 | PW_Wrk | and no, jabber didn't come from a little lame company |
| 10:20.43 | jkk | jasonb: i'm sure there are people putting SOAP to use with top queues and message buses and what not but you bring up a good point |
| 10:20.58 | jkk | jasonb: now that i think about, the two are almost interchangeable |
| 10:20.59 | PW_Wrk | Jabber Inc. didn't exist when jabber started |
| 10:21.00 | jasonb | PW_Wrk: Note that I'm not saying I think SOAP is a nice protocol.. it's not. I'm just saying that if I had my choice between SOAP and Jabber that I'd choose SOAP. In reality, I'd choose neither. |
| 10:21.34 | jasonb | jkk: Yup. |
| 10:24.31 | PW_Wrk | jasonb: what's the problem with jabber? I haven't heard anyone say that jabber is bad before? |
| 10:25.02 | jkk | jasonb: but i think their interchangeability says more about the badness of SOAP then anything else |
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| 11:28.52 | _akb_ | ~~~~~~ |
| 11:32.12 | _akb_ | jasonb |
| 11:32.47 | _akb_ | hey farmer whar are you doing up there? |
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| 11:50.28 | mcp_ac | hi friends |
| 11:50.58 | mcp_ac | can someone help me, i cant start tomcat 4.1.8 under linux |
| 11:51.11 | mcp_ac | the manual told me that i must execute the file startup.sh |
| 11:51.27 | mcp_ac | but this file doesnt exist |
| 11:52.14 | _akb_ | where are u looking for that file mcp_ac |
| 11:53.24 | mcp_ac | under /usr/locale/tomcat4/bin |
| 11:54.19 | mcp_ac | oh sorry, under /var/tomcat4 |
| 11:54.33 | mcp_ac | there are a lot of rc_x files |
| 11:57.56 | _akb_ | where did u install ur tomacat? |
| 11:58.11 | _akb_ | check in its bin directory it should have a file named startup |
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| 12:38.17 | a4akb | hey KarolR |
| 12:38.22 | KarolR | hi |
| 12:39.10 | a4akb | how r u? |
| 12:39.55 | KarolR | thanks I'm fine, how are you |
| 12:40.10 | a4akb | am fine 2 ty |
| 12:40.48 | a4akb | u got any soft copies of books |
| 12:42.09 | a4akb | i downloaded one and adobe gives an error saying cant decrypt the file :( |
| 12:46.43 | KarolR | Sorry, I don't have any soft copies, just the paper originals |
| 12:47.11 | a4akb | no worries i just wanted to ask if u got any kind of such errors while using pdf files |
| 12:49.19 | *** join/#tomcat martial (~chatzilla@m12.net81-67-181.noos.fr) |
| 12:51.02 | martial | ehlo |
| 12:51.21 | martial | is there an equivalent of .htaccess with tomcat ? |
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| 13:25.44 | KarolR | martial, Tomcat (and other web containers) have a different authetication and authorization than Apache httpd |
| 13:26.02 | martial | KarolR: ok. |
| 13:26.09 | martial | i wanna an equivalent |
| 13:26.26 | KarolR | martial: you need to specify security constrains in the web.xml deployment descriptor |
| 13:26.32 | martial | i'm reading servlet spécification |
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| 13:50.08 | martial | KarolR: thx.. |
| 13:50.20 | martial | i'm just reading this |
| 13:50.38 | martial | in the example of java servlets specifications |
| 13:58.32 | vakYpollo | has anybody used Jakarta's Logging Library with servlets? I.e.: Using ServletContext.log() mechanism. |
| 14:15.46 | KarolR | I've only used log4j... |
| 14:39.20 | *** join/#tomcat _akb_ (~akb@as20-240.qualitynet.net) |
| 14:39.23 | _akb_ | hey! |
| 14:39.26 | _akb_ | http://www.unisolv.com/images/bird.htm |
| 14:39.35 | _akb_ | whoz birdie is this?? |
| 14:46.24 | _akb_ | farmer u here? |
| 14:46.31 | farmer | yea |
| 14:50.13 | _akb_ | cool man |
| 14:50.20 | _akb_ | where are you since past 2 days! |
| 14:50.26 | _akb_ | how are you? |
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| 15:28.40 | vakYpollo | KarolR: what about Jakarta's Directors? Have you read GoF Builder pattern? |
| 15:38.01 | KarolR | sorry I was away |
| 15:38.22 | KarolR | No I didn't read that pattern (resp. I cannot remind of what it was about) |
| 15:38.36 | KarolR | and I'm not familiar with Jakarta's Directors :/ |
| 15:55.30 | _akb_ | hey whats this hype all about the struts project? |
| 15:55.41 | _akb_ | where can i find it and can anyone give me an intro to it? |
| 16:08.42 | KarolR | There are a couple of excellent books about Struts out there |
| 16:08.53 | KarolR | It's a MVC framework for Java WebApps |
| 16:09.16 | KarolR | I recommend you "Programming Jakarta Struts" published by O'Reilly |
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| 16:13.59 | bo01ean | morning |
| 16:14.11 | bo01ean | help || hang channel? |
| 16:15.48 | _akb_ | || idle channel |
| 16:16.29 | bo01ean | heh so I noticed |
| 16:16.43 | _akb_ | yep |
| 16:17.15 | _akb_ | yeah i guess so |
| 16:17.21 | _akb_ | but it sometimes sux on win |
| 16:18.04 | bo01ean | wont be doing aany win32 |
| 16:18.14 | bo01ean | mostly linux and sun shop here |
| 16:18.36 | bo01ean | and if it wasnt for lack of java native in fbsd, would be doing that too :) |
| 16:18.39 | _akb_ | you can ask jasonb hellaenergy and kylev these guys are working on the latest version of tomcat and almost everyone except me and farmer here are tomcat 4"developers"1 not users. |
| 16:18.54 | bo01ean | oh kewl |
| 16:18.57 | farmer | cool |
| 16:19.04 | farmer | didnt know that |
| 16:19.22 | _akb_ | tomcat is tailor made for sun/java/linux |
| 16:19.28 | _akb_ | :) hey farmer |
| 16:19.44 | _akb_ | what kind of birds does your farm have bud? look what its doing.. |
| 16:19.52 | _akb_ | http://www.unisolv.com/images/bird.htm |
| 16:20.34 | _akb_ | ;) |
| 16:20.46 | bo01ean | lol |
| 16:20.58 | _akb_ | :P |
| 16:21.16 | _akb_ | farmer is the linux kid here |
| 16:21.17 | bo01ean | well that made a smile in my day |
| 16:21.18 | bo01ean | thanks |
| 16:21.24 | farmer | no no linux! |
| 16:21.26 | _akb_ | he worked for HP at the age of 16 |
| 16:21.26 | farmer | i hate linux |
| 16:21.26 | farmer | :> |
| 16:21.28 | _akb_ | :) |
| 16:21.44 | _akb_ | freebsd then |
| 16:21.47 | _akb_ | unix even! |
| 16:21.51 | farmer | its not the same you know :) |
| 16:21.59 | _akb_ | who cares? |
| 16:22.04 | farmer | i do :) |
| 16:22.06 | _akb_ | u were in hp and i was not ;) |
| 16:22.10 | farmer | hehe |
| 16:22.24 | farmer | i worked on java there.. but my coworker did most of the work ;p |
| 16:22.37 | _akb_ | hey that book wont open farmer :< |
| 16:22.44 | farmer | want .txt? |
| 16:22.52 | KarolR | akb, use a knife. ;-) |
| 16:23.09 | _akb_ | lol KarolR |
| 16:23.25 | _akb_ | hey bo01ean meet KarolR he is the all in one guru here, ask all ur java problems to him |
| 16:23.27 | _akb_ | ;) |
| 16:23.57 | bo01ean | k thanks |
| 16:24.07 | bo01ean | morning KarolR |
| 16:24.09 | _akb_ | yw kindly |
| 16:24.19 | KarolR | morning |
| 16:24.30 | _akb_ | and dont forget to sign our guest book at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/ |
| 16:24.47 | bo01ean | i tried but couldnt conect |
| 16:24.59 | _akb_ | you can paste anything right from your nightmares to fantasies |
| 16:25.16 | _akb_ | but dont get too personal as it will be pasted on the web :D |
| 16:25.51 | bo01ean | heh |
| 16:26.12 | hellabot | "bo01ean" pasted test at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/11 |
| 16:26.23 | bo01ean | cute |
| 16:26.27 | _akb_ | :) |
| 16:26.33 | _akb_ | hey meet ibot our pet here |
| 16:26.38 | _akb_ | ibot: who are you |
| 16:26.43 | | i heard ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage. |
| 16:26.50 | _akb_ | :D |
| 16:27.28 | _akb_ | ibot: bo01ean |
| 16:27.28 | | _akb_: bugger all, i dunno |
| 16:27.29 | bo01ean | blootbot? |
| 16:27.40 | bo01ean | ibot: _akb_ |
| 16:27.41 | | wish i knew, bo01ean |
| 16:27.44 | bo01ean | heh |
| 16:27.48 | farmer | ibot: status |
| 16:27.48 | | Since Sat Mar 1 06:04:54 2003, there have been 108 modifications, 338 questions, 190 dunnos, 5 morons and 342 commands. I have been awake for 9d 10h 22m 54s this session, and currently reference 84680 factoids. I'm using about 16324 kB of memory. |
| 16:27.52 | bo01ean | what about hellabot? |
| 16:27.58 | bo01ean | same thing? |
| 16:28.12 | bo01ean | neat |
| 16:28.32 | _akb_ | hellabot is for the www pasteit thing |
| 16:28.39 | _akb_ | where as ibot is for our entertainment and info |
| 16:28.45 | _akb_ | hellabot: ibot |
| 16:28.48 | _akb_ | ibot: hellabot |
| 16:28.49 | | methinks hellabot is at http://hellaweb.com:8888/ |
| 16:28.53 | _akb_ | :D |
| 16:29.36 | bo01ean | all yours? |
| 16:29.54 | _akb_ | correction all ours |
| 16:30.39 | bo01ean | very nice indeed |
| 16:31.18 | KarolR | it's just too bad it's runing on the port 8888 and thus is unaccessible for me (firewall) |
| 16:31.33 | KarolR | it should be running on some standard port, such as 80 or 8080 |
| 16:31.54 | _akb_ | hmmm |
| 16:32.07 | _akb_ | http://hellaweb.com:8888/5 |
| 16:32.10 | _akb_ | :D brb |
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| 17:37.26 | _akb_ | hey where do i get latest apache server guys? |
| 17:37.32 | _akb_ | gime the url plz |
| 17:37.53 | _akb_ | not the www.apache.com/org i need the url where the latest file is located |
| 17:40.17 | farmer | hmm |
| 17:40.27 | _akb_ | hmmm |
| 17:40.30 | farmer | there are mirrors on that page :) |
| 17:40.55 | farmer | http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi |
| 17:41.13 | _akb_ | yeah man i hate mirrors |
| 17:41.25 | _akb_ | cant they locate one single file on a single url |
| 17:41.29 | _akb_ | just too much confusion |
| 17:41.51 | farmer | http://www.apache.org/dist/httpd/ |
| 17:41.54 | farmer | this is the master |
| 17:42.08 | farmer | Do not download from www.apache.org. Please use a mirror site to help us save apache.org bandwidth. |
| 17:42.09 | _akb_ | cool |
| 17:42.09 | farmer | :) |
| 17:42.15 | _akb_ | lemme check |
| 17:42.15 | farmer | u bad boy |
| 17:42.30 | farmer | u make indians pay more! |
| 17:42.34 | _akb_ | :P |
| 17:42.44 | _akb_ | lol am not in India ^_^ |
| 17:42.47 | _akb_ | :P |
| 17:43.07 | _akb_ | strange they dont have unlimited bandwith on apage.org? |
| 17:43.26 | farmer | probably have hehe.. but still nobody wants to have its pipe full all the time |
| 17:43.46 | _akb_ | :) |
| 17:45.44 | _akb_ | k am using a mirror |
| 17:45.56 | _akb_ | afterall i support tomcat n apache too ^_^ |
| 17:45.56 | _akb_ | :D |
| 17:47.49 | _akb_ | hey does oracle 9i have apache server in it? |
| 17:47.58 | _akb_ | i guess it does.. |
| 17:48.05 | _akb_ | right? |
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| 17:49.46 | TomekN2 | i have a very strange problem with mod_jk... |
| 17:50.04 | TomekN2 | and cocoon2 html serializer |
| 17:50.19 | _akb_ | what is it TomekN2 if u r lucky enough some one will answer |
| 17:50.39 | _akb_ | ah jasonb is the champ of mod_jk here wait for him to reply :) |
| 17:51.04 | TomekN2 | so simply speaking when I refreash page in Internet Explorer I see two different contents |
| 17:51.19 | TomekN2 | for the first time - page is rendered correctly |
| 17:51.34 | TomekN2 | at the and of the page, after a </html> tag there is a Cocoon sig: |
| 17:51.37 | TomekN2 | <!-- Processed by Apache Cocoon 2.0.4 in 16 milliseconds. --> |
| 17:51.55 | TomekN2 | then, when i hit F5 i see something strange: |
| 17:52.09 | TomekN2 | at the top of the page i see again the same tag: |
| 17:52.14 | TomekN2 | <!-- Processed by Apache Cocoon 2.0.4 in 16 milliseconds. --> |
| 17:52.20 | TomekN2 | then all headers go: |
| 17:52.26 | TomekN2 | HTTP/1.1 200 |
| 17:52.33 | TomekN2 | Server: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) |
| 17:52.38 | TomekN2 | Content-Length: 7840 |
| 17:52.40 | TomekN2 | etc.. |
| 17:52.44 | TomekN2 | then one empty line |
| 17:52.56 | TomekN2 | and rest of the correctly rendered page |
| 17:53.09 | TomekN2 | that situation does not apear in Mozilla |
| 17:53.33 | bun0 | so it sounds like an IE issue? |
| 17:53.35 | TomekN2 | it does not appear at Coyote 8080 |
| 17:53.47 | TomekN2 | it looks like IE-mod_jk issue |
| 17:53.53 | bun0 | IE uses a different xslt processor |
| 17:54.13 | TomekN2 | no no, this is rendered on server-side |
| 17:54.36 | bun0 | yeah but IE has its own xslt processor to, so you have to disable that |
| 17:54.44 | bun0 | *too |
| 17:55.28 | bun0 | remember you can have the xsl processing in either browser or the server side |
| 17:55.29 | _akb_ | whats an xslt processor? |
| 17:55.34 | TomekN2 | you dont get me |
| 17:55.36 | _akb_ | extra slot? |
| 17:56.12 | bun0 | thats a good possibility..am just giving you ideas |
| 17:57.23 | _akb_ | where on earth are they, no sign since 2 days |
| 17:57.27 | _akb_ | :/ |
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| 17:57.40 | bun0 | let me ask you this, is the output xml or xhtml/html when you serialized from cocoon? |
| 17:57.46 | _akb_ | HEY HELLA |
| 17:57.49 | _akb_ | HIGH 5 |
| 17:58.09 | _akb_ | TomekN2 ask Hellaenergy he knows this stuff like his backyard.. |
| 17:58.14 | TomekN2 | bun0 text/html |
| 17:58.29 | TomekN2 | wait, i will show you this |
| 18:00.46 | bun0 | anyone knows how to make tomcat read /etc/passwd so it can use it to make /home/users/public_html their webapp root? I have the Listener on |
| 18:01.15 | TomekN2 | ok, so please open ie6 if you have one and go to http://zorro.netventure.pl/cocoon-2.0.4-dev/ |
| 18:01.28 | TomekN2 | and then refresh it couple of times to see difference |
| 18:04.19 | bun0 | i dont notice a difference |
| 18:04.34 | TomekN2 | hit refresh on this samples page |
| 18:04.47 | TomekN2 | dont you get headers at the top of the page? |
| 18:04.47 | bun0 | i have hit refresh |
| 18:04.58 | bun0 | nope |
| 18:05.15 | TomekN2 | :/ |
| 18:05.44 | bun0 | i view the source and headers are there..which ones are you looking for? |
| 18:06.17 | TomekN2 | do you see headers before <?xml.. tag in xhtml pages? |
| 18:06.28 | bun0 | nope |
| 18:06.38 | bun0 | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> |
| 18:06.38 | bun0 | <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> |
| 18:06.55 | TomekN2 | i see such headers: |
| 18:06.59 | TomekN2 | X-Cocoon-Version: 2.0.4 |
| 18:06.59 | TomekN2 | Content-Length: 7840 |
| 18:07.06 | TomekN2 | Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=19 |
| 18:07.07 | TomekN2 | etc.. |
| 18:07.23 | TomekN2 | these are raw headers i suppose |
| 18:07.47 | bun0 | yeah, i dont see those, maybe you have something extra enabled on IE |
| 18:08.40 | TomekN2 | i checked it out on serveral workstations - always the same result |
| 18:10.32 | TomekN2 | see http://www.netventure.pl/~tnowak/screenshoot.jpg |
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| 18:12.27 | bun0 | maybe those dont show if viewed in en version? im in english speaking country, i wonder if it has anything to do with i18n |
| 18:12.51 | TomekN2 | rather not, i dont use i18n transformation |
| 18:13.59 | bun0 | i dont see those extra ones.. i showed you earlier what i view as source |
| 18:15.02 | TomekN2 | i see. thanks anyway |
| 18:15.30 | TomekN2 | s.u. |
| 18:19.07 | _akb_ | lollllllll |
| 18:19.24 | _akb_ | both of them were upto something naughty hence got dc together :P |
| 18:19.31 | _akb_ | right farmer? ;) |
| 18:22.38 | _akb_ | lol i miss u guys when u wont talk in here :/ |
| 18:23.19 | _akb_ | man the msi download is almost twice as faster as the tar.zip download of apache |
| 18:23.22 | _akb_ | why so? |
| 18:25.07 | _akb_ | man talk to me guys.. |
| 18:25.38 | _akb_ | ok tc all bbl |
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| 19:41.53 | akb_oOo | yeyyyeeeyo check this out! |
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| 20:15.22 | _morbid_ | why I got Exception creating DataSource: org.hsql.jdbcDriver while I am trying to use com.mysql.jdbc.jdbc2.optional.MysqlConnectionPoolDataSource ? |
| 20:16.02 | _morbid_ | anyone successfuly used mysql datasource with tomcat? |
| 20:18.14 | hellabot | "_morbid_" pasted Exception while creating datasource pool at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/13 |
| 20:19.00 | _morbid_ | please, someone look this |
| 20:32.43 | Hellaenergy | _morbid_: are you sure you need the "jdbc"/mysql and not just mysql? |
| 20:35.06 | _morbid_ | Hellaenergy: the problem is other ir the name is wrong |
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| 20:59.36 | akb_oOo | guys so all have decided not to talk to me? |
| 21:00.16 | Hellaenergy | no silly |
| 21:00.21 | Hellaenergy | some people are coding |
| 21:00.35 | Hellaenergy | like me for instance ;) |
| 21:00.51 | Hellaenergy | did you have a tomcat question? |
| 21:00.59 | akb_oOo | :P |
| 21:01.01 | akb_oOo | yes |
| 21:01.27 | akb_oOo | how many stipes does the tomcat have :P |
| 21:01.28 | akb_oOo | stripes |
| 21:02.13 | Hellaenergy | akb_oOo: why don't you write a servlet or somting :) |
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| 21:03.23 | _morbid_ | akb_oOo: what about help me ? |
| 21:03.24 | akb_oOo | lol hellabot |
| 21:03.30 | akb_oOo | i mean Hellaenergy |
| 21:03.55 | akb_oOo | _morbid_ i cant follow your question i havent reached your level yet! |
| 21:03.59 | _morbid_ | akb_oOo: help me configuring a mysql jdni datasource in tomcat |
| 21:04.05 | akb_oOo | sorry to disturb u hella |
| 21:04.08 | _morbid_ | akb_oOo :( |
| 21:04.22 | akb_oOo | if it were oracle i could have tried |
| 21:04.36 | akb_oOo | but i dont know whats jdni and i never tried my hands on mysql |
| 21:04.40 | akb_oOo | sowwy ;( |
| 21:05.08 | Hellaenergy | _morbid_: have you looked on google groups? |
| 21:05.20 | _morbid_ | Hellaenergy: yeah, sure. |
| 21:05.31 | Hellaenergy | for the proper syntax? |
| 21:05.32 | _morbid_ | Hellaenergy: I *ever* look there before |
| 21:05.53 | _morbid_ | Hellaenergy: seens that anyone got same problem as I |
| 21:06.09 | _morbid_ | Hellaenergy: seens that people don't use to use jndi datasources |
| 21:06.26 | Hellaenergy | _morbid_: go over to #struts |
| 21:06.38 | Hellaenergy | there are some web application programmers over there ;) |
| 21:06.51 | _morbid_ | Hellaenergy: I am there now :) |
| 21:07.01 | _morbid_ | Hellaenergy: since morning :) |
| 21:08.12 | Hellaenergy | ah |
| 21:08.21 | Hellaenergy | they had nothing to say about it |
| 21:10.05 | _morbid_ | :( |
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| 21:38.27 | akb_oOo | wb hella |
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| 21:55.55 | Angus | _morbid_: I use JNDI, but with postgres. I might be able to help you. Then again maybe not. What's your question? |
| 22:07.29 | akb_oOo | bye all zzzz |
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| 22:11.43 | _morbid_ | Angus: I configured a mysql jndi datasource, but I got an error when I try to get the object |
| 22:12.04 | _morbid_ | Angus: look http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/13 |
| 22:13.44 | Angus | Hmm. A couple of things come to mind. |
| 22:14.38 | _morbid_ | Angus: what things? |
| 22:15.00 | _morbid_ | Angus: as you see, I don't mention org.hsql.jdbcDriver in my server.xml file |
| 22:15.53 | Angus | Do you have the Tomcat examples installed? |
| 22:16.01 | Angus | The ones that come with Tomcat? |
| 22:16.17 | _morbid_ | nops, cause I am using netbeans's tomcat |
| 22:16.26 | Angus | Is that your _whole_ server.xml? |
| 22:16.41 | _morbid_ | yeah |
| 22:16.41 | _morbid_ | generated by netbeans |
| 22:18.31 | Angus | K. |
| 22:19.22 | Angus | I'm not sure if I'll be around when you get back, but one thing that is a bit odd is that you're defining the Resource oputside of a Context. |
| 22:22.36 | Angus | But that shouldn't cause that Exception, as far as I know. |
| 22:27.43 | Angus | I suspect that it could cause problems, combined with something else, thoguh. |
| 22:29.32 | Angus | I bet it should be in a Context block, and I also bet that if you look at whatever pre-existing apps came with your Tomcat, you'll find that one of them is trying to use hsql. Take a look through the web.xml files for them. |
| 22:30.35 | Angus | I bet one of them has a resource-ref that tries to get an hsql connection from JNDI. |
