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| 00:53.45 | pergesu | Hey everyone, I installed Tomcat and Apache and got them integrated for the most part using mod_jk |
| 00:53.51 | pergesu | however, what I've done is set one of my virtual host's root dir to the webapps/servername folder for Tomcat, and then use JkMount for any jsp files |
| 00:54.12 | pergesu | Static files load fine, but the jsp files don't. To get the jsp files, I need to go to http://www.servername.com/servername/page.jsp |
| 00:54.18 | pergesu | rather than simply http://www.servername.com/page.jsp |
| 00:54.23 | pergesu | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.05 | AeroSpace | pergesu: Sorry, I'd help but I just installed it myself and I'm trying to get a servlet to access my postgresql database. |
| 00:58.39 | pergesu | Hrm, let's trade info then :) |
| 00:58.58 | AeroSpace | You have postgresql access working? |
| 00:59.16 | pergesu | yes |
| 00:59.22 | AeroSpace | Right now I'm accessing the tomcat server directly no apache middleman. |
| 01:00.01 | pergesu | Do you want to configure the database through web.xml or is the connection already written into the servlet? |
| 01:00.02 | AeroSpace | I started with the examples directory and right now I'm trimming down the web.xml file so I am down to only my one class. |
| 01:01.21 | AeroSpace | I'm currently loading it into the servlet. I guess I have to have a password someplace anyway. |
| 01:02.16 | pergesu | Well if it's already in the servlet it should be easy. Put the postgresql connector jar in Tomcat's classpath |
| 01:02.24 | AeroSpace | The servlet isn't written, just enough to test postgresql connectivity. I know I need to enable tcp support in the server which I don't have right now, but the applet doesn't get that far. |
| 01:03.28 | AeroSpace | I'll finish cleaning out the other servlets from this example directory because I had some odd errors trying that very thing earlier. |
| 01:03.57 | pergesu | alright |
| 01:21.06 | AeroSpace | Cool, I 'think' it will work now. Now to enable tcp in postgrsql. Apparently the problem was some other servlet casued problesm when I included the postgresql driver in the lib directory. Man I have been at this all day. |
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| 01:21.28 | pergesu | Hey AeroSpace, I figured out how to do what I needed. Set up a virtual host in Tomcat |
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| 01:21.44 | AeroSpace | pergesu: That's great. |
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| 01:39.49 | Bain | any of u guys use sapdb? |
| 01:40.36 | Bain | im creating a database instance and im having some trouble |
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| 01:41.10 | Bain | dbmcli on localdb>param_addvolume 1 SYS SYS_001 F |
| 01:41.10 | Bain | ERR |
| 01:41.10 | Bain | -24945,ERR_TOOFEWPARAM: too few parameters |
| 01:41.43 | Bain | param_addvolume <num> <mod> <nam> <typ> <siz> |
| 01:42.01 | Bain | however i cant have a size... i get error with size added too |
| 01:42.40 | Bain | param_addvolume 1 SYS SYS_001 F 1000 |
| 01:42.40 | Bain | ERR |
| 01:42.40 | Bain | -24996,ERR_PARAM: wrong parameters |
| 01:42.44 | Bain | ;) |
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| 03:08.24 | Ishai | how do I set the JAVA_HOME environment variable? |
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| 03:17.12 | tang^ | that depends on your os, really (and shell for unix and variants) |
| 03:18.25 | Ishai | rh 8.0 |
| 03:19.56 | tang^ | in bash: export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/java |
| 03:20.10 | Ishai | yeah but what exactly are they looking for |
| 03:20.28 | tang^ | the directory that contains bin/java and bin/javac |
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| 03:21.01 | tang^ | you know, that has been my complaint if I haven't set up JAVA_HOME in a while. the docs say to set it, but don't say exactly what it should point to |
| 03:21.04 | Ishai | I put that in there and its not working |
| 03:21.51 | tang^ | what's not working? |
| 03:22.01 | Ishai | webmail start |
| 03:24.02 | tang^ | /path/to/java/bin is on the path? |
| 03:24.53 | Ishai | what path |
| 03:25.20 | tang^ | webmail a service? or are you running it? |
| 03:25.38 | tang^ | if a service, on the system path, otherwise, your path |
| 03:25.44 | Ishai | how do I add something to the path |
| 03:26.20 | tang^ | for yours, edit .bash_profile, system /etc/profile |
| 03:26.56 | Ishai | both or one |
| 03:27.32 | tang^ | just one is fine... if you want it to affect any account on the system, do the system file |
| 03:37.20 | Ishai | it still isnt working I put JAVA_HOME into my .bash_profile but it will not recognize it in the script |
| 03:38.14 | tang^ | you do have to log out and log back in before the path gets set |
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| 03:46.58 | Ishai | it didnt work |
| 03:49.20 | tang^ | hmm, hit the limit of my knowledge. sorry |
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| 07:04.02 | akb | Goodorning. |
| 07:06.59 | NoGMoo | hi akb |
| 07:07.54 | akb | hey NoGMoo |
| 07:08.01 | akb | how r u? |
| 07:32.09 | Pointy_Wrk | I've found more than one file upload servlet - anyone of you used one? |
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| 08:17.23 | Angus | akb: Know anything about using tomcat with mod_proxy? |
| 08:17.37 | akb | oops |
| 08:17.54 | Angus | :). S'OK. |
| 08:18.02 | akb | Angus nope, am new to tomcat, a work in progress |
| 08:18.28 | Angus | Cool. I'm having some problems. A new session is created on each request. |
| 08:18.36 | Angus | It's a bit annoying. |
| 08:19.14 | akb | hmm |
| 08:19.37 | akb | let me do a search for you |
| 08:21.27 | Angus | akb: If you want :)./ I've been googling. |
| 08:21.46 | akb | http://www.filip.net/tomcat/tomcat-javagroups.html |
| 08:21.56 | akb | http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/proxy-howto.html |
| 08:23.02 | akb | http://aaronland.info/toys/apache-xbel/example-opml/ |
| 08:23.32 | akb | i dont know anything about what you asked, but hope these links are helpful.. |
| 08:23.54 | akb | if they are confusing, just ignore it |
| 08:24.01 | Angus | I've seen them, but thanks for doing the search. |
| 08:24.12 | akb | hmm |
| 08:25.41 | Angus | :) |
| 08:26.03 | akb | dialing...~~~~~...host found, waiting for reply~~~~~Host last seen, running away from client..````trying to establish a connection,,,,,,still trying~~~~~~~~~Host located sleeping in bed~~~~~disconnected.... |
| 08:30.23 | akb | dialing----http://telepathy.akb-jasonb.votnot--host found, waiting for reply``````ident request....hopelessly rejected as client dosent know unix...retrying..through proxy server---ident replied, found host name---almost there````~~~~~~`````powerfailure ... |
| 08:31.16 | Angus | :) |
| 08:31.44 | jasonb | Your call cannot be completed as dialed. |
| 08:31.50 | akb | 7jasonb will be right back after the not so commercial break |
| 08:32.02 | akb | oh there is the guru |
| 08:32.06 | akb | yo mate |
| 08:32.09 | jasonb | who, me? |
| 08:32.15 | akb | Good Early morning |
| 08:32.21 | jasonb | Good morning. |
| 08:32.48 | akb | see, telepathy works fine with me :D |
| 08:33.39 | akb | jasonb as the top guru of tomcat project, can you shed some light on Angus question about mod_proxy? |
| 08:34.32 | jasonb | What's the question? |
| 08:34.55 | akb | if you are here answering about questions on next version of tomcat, yes you know tomcat as the back of your...palm |
| 08:35.08 | akb | Angus ask please |
| 08:35.47 | jasonb | Hmm.. Does Angus speak? Or, is he busy eating a steak? (you know, one of those Angus steaks) |
| 08:35.52 | akb | hello? |
| 08:36.07 | akb | we will be right back after the steak break |
| 08:36.42 | akb | what time is it there jasonb? |
| 08:37.45 | jasonb | It's 12:35am or so.. a little after midnight. |
| 08:38.12 | Angus | jasonb: I think I found the problem, actually. |
| 08:38.12 | Angus | Not sure yet. It's a problem with mod_rewrite, mod_proxy and cookies. |
| 08:38.24 | hellabot | "akb" pasted the juggler at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/67 |
| 08:38.57 | jasonb | woo hoo |
| 08:39.11 | akb | ? |
| 08:39.32 | akb | voho? |
| 08:40.42 | akb | hey jasonb do u have work tomorrow? |
| 08:40.52 | akb | today to be precise |
| 08:41.30 | jasonb | Yes, I do have work tomorrow. |
| 08:41.30 | akb | :P |
| 08:41.34 | jasonb | Sadly. |
| 08:41.42 | akb | why? |
| 08:41.46 | akb | work stinks? |
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| 08:42.53 | akb | hey did u get that url about the applet you wanted to show me? |
| 08:43.04 | akb | u know the tree/node one |
| 08:45.18 | jasonb | akb: No, I actually haven't had time to come back to that. Hmm... |
| 08:45.31 | akb | ok.. |
| 08:45.38 | akb | i got a mail from sun |
| 08:45.58 | akb | John Crupi, author of "J2EE Patterns," will be speaking at |
| 08:45.59 | akb | TheServerSide Symposium, a technical conference |
| 08:45.59 | akb | specializing in Enterprise Java (J2EE). This show is great |
| 08:45.59 | akb | for learning about best practices, design patterns, and |
| 08:45.59 | akb | Web services. It takes place near Boston, MA on June |
| 08:45.59 | akb | 27-29, 2003. |
| 08:46.11 | akb | Attendance is capped at 500 - Act quickly! Register by |
| 08:46.12 | akb | March 31, and you'll get $400 off the registration fee, and |
| 08:46.12 | akb | a free copy of John's book (or another book of your |
| 08:46.12 | akb | choice). Get more information: |
| 08:46.12 | akb | http://www.theserverside.com/symposium?id=ph1 |
| 08:46.30 | akb | are you anywhere near boston jasonb? |
| 08:46.30 | jasonb | Okay, hey, could someone who has an IE browser try this and tell me what happens?: |
| 08:46.32 | jasonb | http://www.mozilla.org/catalog/web-developer/examples/kitchensink.xml |
| 08:46.46 | akb | sure jasonb |
| 08:46.56 | akb | The XML page cannot be displayed |
| 08:46.57 | akb | Cannot view XML input using style sheet. Please correct the error and then click the Refresh button, or try again later. |
| 08:46.57 | akb | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 08:46.57 | akb | Parameter entity must be defined before it is used. Line 85, Position 2 |
| 08:46.57 | akb | %xhtml-prefw-redecl.mod; |
| 08:46.58 | akb | -^ |
| 08:47.00 | akb | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.10 | akb | ok |
| 08:47.33 | akb | i thought you could visit that symposium and send me the free jon book ^_^ |
| 08:47.38 | akb | :P |
| 08:47.49 | jasonb | Hmm. |
| 08:48.08 | akb | kitchen sink? |
| 08:48.34 | akb | you are writing an xml app to remove the clogging of your kitchen sink? |
| 08:48.37 | jasonb | Yeah. You should see that page on Mozilla. It's too bad that IE doesn't show it.. |
| 08:48.42 | akb | cool, now thats what i call hi-tech |
| 08:48.52 | akb | hmm |
| 08:49.13 | jasonb | akb: http://www.visualthesaurus.com/index.jsp |
| 08:49.46 | akb | you showed me that jasonb, but am clueless where to start on such an awsome application.. |
| 08:49.56 | akb | can i have the source code for it? |
| 08:50.22 | jasonb | akb: So you saw it last time I pasted that in? For me it was down. |
| 08:50.47 | akb | i guess u told ur java was diabled in the browser and you didnt want to enable it.. |
| 08:50.58 | jasonb | akb: Did you try the examples/demos at the other URL I gave you? |
| 08:51.14 | akb | plumb(er) design, kitchen sink.. whats all this hardware stuff?? |
| 08:51.22 | akb | sanitary even |
| 08:51.40 | akb | yes but they are too plane.. |
| 08:51.58 | akb | this is so visually descriptive.. |
| 08:53.28 | jasonb | akb: But what I'm asking is: did you see a demo in there that acts like visualthesaurus.com? That's what I was looking for. |
| 08:53.29 | akb | http://www.informit.com/member/subscriptions.asp |
| 08:53.47 | akb | no jasonb |
| 08:54.00 | akb | they were simple ones and some didnt even run |
| 08:54.12 | akb | it showed xyz() class not found |
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| 08:59.47 | akb | ... |
| 09:01.56 | Angus | jasonb: Do you know of any way to get a Tomcat servlet to set cookies as if it were deployed to a different path than it is? |
| 09:02.10 | akb | ? |
| 09:02.27 | Angus | For session managment. |
| 09:02.39 | akb | hmm |
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| 09:03.07 | Angus | I'm rewriting an incoming uri, but the paths are a bit different. So sessions are breaking. |
| 09:06.26 | Angus | Basically I'm getting an invalid cookie path. |
| 09:07.03 | Angus | When creating Tomcat sessions. |
| 09:07.45 | Angus | Because my browser thinks it's at http://blah.com/path1/page and the jsp thinks it's at http://blah.com/path2/page |
| 09:08.03 | Angus | Because I'm rewriting urls and then passing them to mod_proxy. |
| 09:08.38 | Karol | so your problem is that you cannot share authentication between two contexts? |
| 09:09.00 | akb | hey Karol |
| 09:09.03 | Karol | hey |
| 09:09.14 | akb | sup |
| 09:09.16 | Angus | Karol: No. There's only one contet. |
| 09:09.31 | jasonb | Angus: Hmm.. so your cookie should really say http://blah.com (and that's it) |
| 09:09.32 | Karol | Angus: I see |
| 09:09.48 | Angus | Well, or blah.com/path1. |
| 09:09.56 | Angus | Just not blah.com/path2 |
| 09:10.15 | Angus | Karol: I'm using mod_rewrite and mod_proxy. |
| 09:10.33 | jasonb | Angus: So how come your browser sees path1 at all? |
| 09:10.57 | Angus | jasonb: path1 is the url that the browser sends to Apache. |
| 09:11.22 | Angus | jasonb: the browser rewrites that to path2, and then proxies it to Tomcat. |
| 09:12.24 | jasonb | Angus: Can you just have Apache send all *.jsp page requests to Tomcat? |
| 09:12.38 | jasonb | (without rewriting anything?) |
| 09:12.49 | Angus | Well, actually, part of the point is to remove .jsp from the url. |
| 09:13.08 | jasonb | Ok, but you have to have something on the end, right? |
| 09:13.14 | jasonb | Well, I guess you don't.. |
| 09:13.20 | Angus | And rewrite path elements as GET parameters. |
| 09:14.34 | Angus | so blah.com/categories/category2/cost/20 might turn into /category.jsp?categorycode=something&sortby=cost&start=20 |
| 09:15.13 | jasonb | The problem is: whenever one makes use of mod_rewrite, one is violently thrust into an advanced server configuration debugging session.. |
| 09:15.23 | Angus | or actually that's not quite it, but that's the idea. |
| 09:15.37 | Angus | jasonb: Yeah, mod_rewrite is a bit of a pain. |
| 09:15.50 | Angus | jasonb: But I had things working on the rewrite end of things. |
| 09:16.03 | Angus | Just sessions weren't working, because of the path issue. |
| 09:16.26 | jasonb | Angus: Just because Apache httpd knows how to shove the request off to Tomcat doesn't mean it's going to get shoved to Tomcat in a Tomcat-comprehensible way. |
| 09:16.51 | Angus | jasonb: In what sense? |
| 09:17.02 | jasonb | Angus: You could always write a custom valve that modifies the cookie path to your liking, but of course if you don't know how to write Valves that could pose a problem. |
| 09:17.06 | Angus | (Other than the cookie issue)? |
| 09:17.31 | Angus | jasonb: Yeah. I suppose I could learn to write a Valve, but that seems like a lot of work to go to. |
| 09:17.52 | jasonb | In this case, you're not sending the request to Tomcat such that the cookie value matches up with the context path (which is probably what Tomcat will use to compare the cookie path against). |
| 09:17.56 | Angus | jasonb: there is another angle of approach, which is to try and get my rewrite rules to work with the paths the same, and reconfigure apache. |
| 09:18.33 | Angus | I think I'll try that before I try writing a Valve. |
| 09:18.41 | Angus | :) |
| 09:18.45 | jasonb | Yeah, I think part of your problem is that you have two paths, and that you either have to teach Tomcat that they're the same thing (rewrite on the Tomcat side), or teach Apache that there really isn't two paths. |
| 09:19.54 | Angus | jasonb: Yeah. For some reason if I change path1 to equal path2 my urls don't get rewritten, and apache proxies to Tomcat without rewriting them. |
| 09:20.04 | akb | http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/home/ |
| 09:20.22 | jasonb | I've found that writing a custom cookie Valve is a sure way to solve cookie path problems, but does take a little attention to detail. But, I have seen this be the best fix on more than one occasion, mainly since "fixing" apache rewrite rules is a tough thing to do, probably even tougher than just writing a Tomcat Valve. |
| 09:21.52 | Angus | jasonb: Yeah. It took me a while to get them right the first time. |
| 09:22.12 | Angus | :) |
| 09:22.28 | akb | http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/stoneflies/ |
| 09:22.32 | akb | :P |
| 09:22.45 | jasonb | akb: I still haven't found the little relational tree graph demo that I was looking for. |
| 09:23.02 | Angus | Ah. I have no Flash. |
| 09:23.03 | akb | refreshments are always better.. |
| 09:23.34 | akb | its ok jasonb keep looking and let me know when u find one |
| 09:23.38 | akb | dont forget it;) |
| 09:23.52 | jasonb | "His wife thinks he grows corn." |
| 09:24.06 | akb | and hey ~oOo~HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL~oOo~ |
| 09:24.10 | akb | lol jasonb |
| 09:24.17 | akb | thats my fav. |
| 09:25.15 | akb | three days ago it was the lunar new year :) |
| 09:25.26 | akb | yeyyeeyyeoo check this out... |
| 09:26.06 | akb | "God got angry red eyes man.. am sorry god, she told he she was 21 man, then 18... |
| 09:26.42 | akb | lunar new year started just three days ago jasonb |
| 09:27.15 | jasonb | I guess earth new year was 2 months ago then. heh. |
| 09:27.27 | akb | lol |
| 09:28.20 | akb | two calenders follwed around, solar (jan feb) and another the lunar which is based on the phases of moon |
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| 09:30.16 | cod | hi > all |
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| 09:33.23 | a4akb | hmm |
| 09:33.25 | a4akb | got dc |
| 09:40.01 | a4akb | so.. |
| 09:40.40 | a4akb | i got 3 days off, good time to read |
| 09:40.48 | a4akb | n learn |
| 09:42.49 | a4akb | hey jasonb in what way can i contribute to tomcat.. |
| 09:42.49 | a4akb | dont tell me "by staying away from this chan"! |
| 09:42.49 | a4akb | i wont be surprised if all here got the same opinion :) |
| 09:44.11 | jasonb | a4akb: Well, writing docs and submitting them to the tomcat-dev mailing list might be a helpful start, actually. |
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| 09:44.33 | Falkom | hi all |
| 09:45.08 | jasonb | a4akb: I think they're very short on docs and wish others would write some. |
| 09:45.09 | Falkom | do you know if exist any auditor or revissor of tomcat configuration or tomcat status, please? |
| 09:45.18 | a4akb | docs about what? |
| 09:45.18 | a4akb | my jokes? :) |
| 09:45.19 | a4akb | hey Falkom welcome to tomcat |
| 09:45.44 | Falkom | thank you very very much a4akb |
| 09:45.53 | jasonb | a4akb: Well, docs about anything that isn't documented on their web pages, and about anything you know enough to write docs about (or anything you could investigate that far). |
| 09:45.59 | a4akb | jasonb what can i write |
| 09:46.09 | a4akb | cool |
| 09:46.30 | a4akb | will it ve verified and checked? |
| 09:46.53 | Falkom | If you like, I explain detailed my problem |
| 09:47.46 | a4akb | sure Falkom |
| 09:48.23 | Falkom | I have a big server with Linux |
| 09:48.34 | Falkom | and I install apache with ajp13 connector and tomcat 4.0.6 |
| 09:48.36 | Falkom | all runs fine |
| 09:48.41 | Falkom | but I dont know why |
| 09:49.13 | Falkom | Sometimes, I cannot see the webs |
| 09:49.13 | Falkom | I restart the services |
| 09:49.13 | Falkom | and I can see the webs and all runs good |
| 09:49.18 | Falkom | I revised the configuration |
| 09:49.28 | Falkom | the java configuration |
| 09:49.31 | Falkom | the apache configuration |
| 09:49.33 | Falkom | and nothing. |
| 09:49.39 | Falkom | can you help me plesae? |
| 09:50.32 | jasonb | akb: I really can't find that graphical relational tree demo that I was looking for. I'm going to have to give up on it. I know the source for it is floating around somewhere, but I can't think of any easy way to find it other than looking at thousands of applets. *sigh* |
| 09:50.33 | a4akb | what do u run on your server? servlets? |
| 09:50.57 | Falkom | and jsps |
| 09:51.01 | Falkom | and java beans |
| 09:51.20 | a4akb | oops jasonb just keep in mind and maybe someother time you may find it, but i would really love to see a source code |
| 09:51.51 | a4akb | Falkom, does it give page not found error? or your application shows a blank page? what happens/ |
| 09:52.32 | Falkom | I try to see the web, and I wait and 15 seg after, the screen in black page |
| 09:52.34 | Falkom | I try to see the web, and I wait and 15 seg after, the screen in blank page |
| 09:52.47 | a4akb | ah |
| 09:52.55 | a4akb | its your application not the server |
| 09:52.59 | a4akb | or container |
| 09:53.07 | a4akb | does it involve any jdbc? |
| 09:53.24 | Falkom | sorry I only am a sys admin |
| 09:53.30 | Angus | Ah. I got it. :). |
| 09:53.50 | a4akb | ok what does your tomcat server screen read as? |
| 09:53.54 | Falkom | there are pages and there are jsps, jdbc an dbeans. |
| 09:53.58 | a4akb | does it give any error or exception? |
| 09:54.04 | Falkom | nothing |
| 09:54.22 | a4akb | hmm |
| 09:55.03 | a4akb | who wrote the application? ask that person to debug it. as i too face this problem and its not a server error/anamoly |
| 09:55.28 | Falkom | ok |
| 09:55.48 | a4akb | jasonb am i right on this? |
| 09:56.28 | Falkom | a4akb is it possible that error can be a programmer erroR? |
| 09:57.21 | a4akb | yes Falkom most likely |
| 09:57.42 | a4akb | because i am sure it has nothing to do with your installation and server setup |
| 09:58.31 | a4akb | your application is running, thats a proof that all is well with your setup, you getting a blank page means, the application is either doing it delebaretly or has encountered an exception |
| 09:58.57 | a4akb | thats what i know, you may ask and confirm others if you can :) as am new to tomcat |
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| 10:10.32 | a4akb | http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/superfly2/ |
| 10:13.52 | Falkom | thank very very much a4akb |
| 10:15.12 | a4akb | yw Falkom, feel at home.. |
| 10:15.20 | a4akb | did it help Falkom? |
| 10:15.46 | jasonb | a4akb: http://javaboutique.internet.com/Cerebellum/ |
| 10:15.51 | a4akb | i hope it wasent a scarcastic remark.. |
| 10:16.14 | jasonb | a4akb: That applet doesn't come with source, but it's alot like what I'm picturing. |
| 10:16.41 | Falkom | yeah |
| 10:16.47 | Falkom | I speak to my programmer |
| 10:18.38 | a4akb | ok Falkom |
| 10:18.49 | a4akb | ok jasonb :) |
| 10:19.31 | a4akb | ty hope u get what u were looking for :) |
| 10:21.45 | a4akb | what did ur programmer say Falkom? |
| 10:22.35 | Falkom | nothing |
| 10:22.44 | Falkom | he says all right |
| 10:23.02 | a4akb | hmm |
| 10:28.06 | jasonb | a4akb: Did you see the applet? |
| 10:30.35 | a4akb | yes |
| 10:30.36 | a4akb | :) |
| 10:30.40 | Pointy_Wrk | anyone familiar with com.oreilly.servlet - the file upload servlet? |
| 10:30.46 | a4akb | cool but its dosent have the source code |
| 10:30.49 | a4akb | http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/theboss/ |
| 10:31.53 | jasonb | a4akb: Are you sure you need the source? |
| 10:33.45 | a4akb | i dont know jasonb why? |
| 10:33.57 | a4akb | i thought it would be good for reference |
| 10:41.00 | jasonb | http://www.seanet.com/users/arsen/avltree.html |
| 10:45.00 | a4akb | its cool jasonb |
| 10:45.02 | a4akb | wow |
| 10:45.02 | a4akb | :D |
| 10:45.09 | a4akb | but wheres the source :P |
| 10:47.10 | a4akb | oops ty m8 |
| 10:47.12 | a4akb | :) |
| 10:50.11 | jasonb | What's "ty"? |
| 10:50.28 | a4akb | ty=thank you |
| 10:50.44 | a4akb | that reminds me of Dido-Thank you song :P |
| 10:53.22 | a4akb | that tree is awsome |
| 10:57.42 | jasonb | Yeah, I've found many good applets, but none of them are both what I'm looking for and also give out the source. |
| 10:59.19 | a4akb | cool |
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| 11:08.39 | a4akb | bye jasonb tc |
| 11:08.51 | a4akb | thanks for everything |
| 11:08.55 | jasonb | Yup. |
| 11:09.16 | a4akb | sleep well and if hella lives close by visit him.he caught cold |
| 11:09.38 | jasonb | Ugh. Those are going around over here too. |
| 11:09.59 | a4akb | u 2 be careful |
| 11:10.05 | a4akb | yes he is in mn |
| 11:10.11 | jasonb | Yeah. |
| 11:10.18 | a4akb | and u ? i forgot oops |
| 11:10.20 | a4akb | dc? |
| 11:10.28 | jasonb | Nah, near San Francisco. |
| 11:10.39 | a4akb | cool |
| 11:10.48 | jasonb | Where it's warm. :) |
| 11:10.52 | a4akb | your work is in ca? |
| 11:10.57 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 11:10.59 | a4akb | great |
| 11:11.02 | a4akb | cool |
| 11:11.16 | a4akb | santa clara? |
| 11:11.26 | jasonb | No, although my last job was there. |
| 11:11.38 | a4akb | oh |
| 11:11.42 | a4akb | where did u work before? |
| 11:11.56 | jasonb | I work about 4 miles from the SFO airport, in a little city called Brisbane, which borders South San Francisco. |
| 11:12.16 | a4akb | cool |
| 11:12.19 | a4akb | :) |
| 11:12.32 | jasonb | Before I worked for a startup company that ended up failing (long story).. It was in Santa Clara. |
| 11:12.36 | a4akb | which was the company you wroked for earlier? |
| 11:12.44 | a4akb | cool |
| 11:12.45 | jasonb | Olliance, Inc. |
| 11:12.59 | a4akb | nice name |
| 11:13.11 | a4akb | were u a partner? |
| 11:13.11 | jasonb | You may find info about them on the wayback machine probably. |
| 11:13.33 | jasonb | No, I was just an engineer they hired. Luckily, I never invested in it. :) |
| 11:13.40 | a4akb | :) |
| 11:13.48 | a4akb | how old r u jasonb? |
| 11:13.52 | jasonb | I'm 32. |
| 11:14.00 | jasonb | Weren't you like 24 or something? |
| 11:14.17 | jasonb | Or was that someone else? |
| 11:14.17 | a4akb | lol yeah |
| 11:14.20 | jasonb | oh. |
| 11:14.32 | a4akb | will be 24 in a month |
| 11:14.35 | jasonb | Yeah, when I was 24 I worked for Genuity. |
| 11:14.55 | a4akb | where is that? |
| 11:15.01 | jasonb | http://www.genuity.com |
| 11:15.25 | a4akb | nice |
| 11:16.24 | a4akb | hmm |
| 11:16.31 | a4akb | what did ur job involve? |
| 11:17.53 | jasonb | I was the lead engineer of a high availability server hosting software project. |
| 11:18.57 | a4akb | wow |
| 11:19.50 | a4akb | was it related to web hoisting server? |
| 11:19.55 | a4akb | dedicated servers? |
| 11:20.29 | jasonb | Yes. |
| 11:20.49 | a4akb | cool |
| 11:21.00 | jasonb | http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06185619__ |
| 11:21.39 | jasonb | Patent filed in 1997, granted in 2001. |
| 11:21.40 | a4akb | :) |
| 11:21.49 | a4akb | :P |
| 11:22.06 | a4akb | that was when i did my engineering |
| 11:22.07 | jasonb | I wrote most of the patent that we filed. |
| 11:22.14 | a4akb | computer sc n engg 97-01 |
| 11:23.40 | jasonb | Anyway, I'm going to sleep now. :) |
| 11:23.42 | Falkom | I ahve to gor |
| 11:23.45 | Falkom | I have to go |
| 11:23.47 | Falkom | byez |
| 11:23.52 | Falkom | thanks a4akb |
| 11:23.52 | jasonb | me first! :) |
| 11:23.59 | a4akb | i was wondering lol |
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| 11:24.03 | a4akb | bye all |
| 11:24.17 | a4akb | jasonb ty for your time sleep well |
| 11:24.24 | a4akb | when do u wakeup? |
| 11:24.29 | a4akb | night night |
| 11:25.15 | Karol | good night? It's 12:24 (noon) here. Where the heck are you guys? :) |
| 11:25.55 | a4akb | lol |
| 11:26.05 | a4akb | r u married jasonb? |
| 11:26.12 | a4akb | Karol u r from UK i guess |
| 11:26.19 | a4akb | its 2:25pm here in kuwait |
| 11:26.29 | Karol | No, I'm in Germany. English folks have 11:24 now |
| 11:26.56 | a4akb | and jasonb is from us of a |
| 11:27.03 | a4akb | cool |
| 11:27.31 | a4akb | what happend to your football team? once they used to reach finals easily.. but why r they struggling now? |
| 11:27.56 | Karol | Lot of internal struggles. It's only dumb football hassle afterall |
| 11:27.59 | Karol | :P |
| 11:28.25 | Karol | Some of the strong teams need to recover, they they're gonna kick *** |
| 11:28.26 | a4akb | lol |
| 11:28.50 | a4akb | hmm |
| 11:29.09 | a4akb | hey Karol get me that dhtml code on your site |
| 11:29.10 | Karol | I'm not really a football fan you know. More into ice hockey. Since I come from Slovakia, the current World Champion (yuppie yeah) |
| 11:29.11 | a4akb | its awsom |
| 11:29.44 | Karol | a4akb, sorry can't give you that, it's production code and the project is not open source |
| 11:29.57 | a4akb | slovakia? cool |
| 11:30.02 | Karol | yup slovakia |
| 11:30.20 | a4akb | Karol i love that menu :( i wish i could have something similar if not the same |
| 11:30.57 | Karol | yes, it was a lot of work, especially to comply to the guidelines of Deutsche Post (*BIG* corporation) |
| 11:31.07 | a4akb | hmm |
| 11:57.31 | Karol | . |
| 12:03.17 | a4akb | .. |
| 12:05.42 | a4akb | brb |
| 12:05.42 | a4akb | gt cook |
| 12:05.42 | a4akb | later |
| 12:06.00 | a4akb | http://www.orisinal.ws/games/spider.htm |
| 12:37.34 | Karol | . |
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| 13:40.58 | a4akb | back |
| 13:51.54 | a4akb | kylev.. |
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| 14:13.44 | Epesh | Tomcat 4.1.18 has an error in handling the JSP 2.0 spec, section 1.5.1 (JSP 1.1 section 2.3). To wit: the following code compiles and runs properly: <!-- <% String foo="hello"; %> --> <%= foo %> |
| 14:13.53 | Epesh | sorry, I forgot the closing --> |
| 14:33.57 | Karol | , |
| 14:35.53 | Karol | Epesh, are you sure that you don't confuse the <!-- ... --> HTML comments with the <%-- ... --%> JSP comments? |
| 14:36.20 | Epesh | Karol: You should try it. |
| 14:36.42 | Karol | Well the above code with HTML code looks perfectly fine to me |
| 14:36.51 | Epesh | Karol: That's just it: it shouldn't |
| 14:36.57 | Epesh | it should give you a compilation error. |
| 14:37.25 | Karol | Hm, let me take a look at the spec. Do you by chance have a link for me? |
| 14:37.28 | Karol | (to the JSP spec) |
| 14:37.35 | Epesh | hold on, let me see. |
| 14:37.39 | Karol | thanks |
| 14:37.48 | Epesh | http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/download.html |
| 14:37.54 | Karol | ok |
| 14:37.57 | Epesh | There are links to the 1.1 JSP spec and 2.0 draft. |
| 14:38.13 | Epesh | It's section 1.5.1 in JSP 2.0, section 2.3 in JSP 1.1 |
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| 14:38.32 | Webon | hi all |
| 14:38.39 | Webon | anyone who runs on FreeBSD? |
| 14:38.54 | Webon | my Tomcat keeps crashing on it |
| 14:39.14 | Webon | what other Java Server is recommended to run on FreeBSD? |
| 14:39.56 | a4akb | r u on windows webon |
| 14:40.18 | Karol | Epesh, what page did you refer to in the JSP 1.2 spec? |
| 14:40.35 | Epesh | Karol: I don't have the jsp 1.2 spec |
| 14:40.39 | Epesh | only 1.1 and 2.0 |
| 14:40.43 | Webon | a4akb: what does it got to do with it? |
| 14:41.07 | a4akb | what i was told is, tomcat dosent run well on windows as microsfot dosent want it to |
| 14:41.09 | Epesh | I can give you page numbers for those if you'd like. |
| 14:41.11 | Karol | are you aware of the fact that Tomcat 4.1.18 implements JSP 1.1 and JSP 1.2, but not JSP 2.0 ? |
| 14:41.26 | Epesh | Karol: in JSP 1.1, see page 38, section 2.3 |
| 14:41.39 | Karol | ok |
| 14:41.45 | Epesh | the content in JSP 2.0 draft spec is identical with the exception of an introductory paragraph. |
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| 14:43.21 | Karol | These comments are treated as uninterpreted template text by the JSP container. If the |
| 14:43.21 | Karol | generated comment is to have dynamic data, this can be obtained through an expression |
| 14:43.21 | Karol | syntax, as in: |
| 14:43.21 | Karol | <!-- comments <%= expression %> more comments ... --> |
| 14:44.02 | Epesh | right: "through an expression syntax." That does not imply the evaluation of scriptlets, as the comments "are treated as uninterpreted template text". |
| 14:44.02 | Webon | a4akb: no...I got it on FreeBSD, that was my question...Tomcat keeps crashing when I run on it so I need other Java Server recommendations to get to run on FreeBSD |
| 14:44.29 | Epesh | Thus, I'd say they're uninterpreted with the exception of JSP expressions, because that's the exception the spec adds. |
| 14:44.52 | Karol | The spec is confusing, indeed |
| 14:45.22 | Karol | (I'm looking at the JSP 2.0 spec now) |
| 14:45.36 | Epesh | identical content; only the section was renumbered, from what I can see. |
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| 14:46.31 | kmet | ok one lame question |
| 14:46.42 | kmet | tomcat 4.1 will work with apache2 on freebsd current? :0 |
| 14:47.12 | Karol | Epesh, the spec is wrong in my eyes... JSP compiler doesn't understand <!-- ... --> comments ! |
| 14:47.43 | kmet | should i use java1.2 for tomcat or i better use a newer one? |
| 14:47.46 | kmet | like 1.3? |
| 14:47.50 | Epesh | Karol: I agree. <!-- is a specific kind of output comment, and JSP shouldn't honour it. However, the spec is what it is. |
| 14:48.15 | Karol | Instead of: |
| 14:48.15 | Karol | ::: These comments are treated as uninterpreted template text by the JSP container. |
| 14:48.15 | Karol | it should be |
| 14:48.15 | Karol | ::: These comments are treated as uninterpreted template text by the HTML client. |
| 14:48.45 | Epesh | Karol: or even better yet, the spec should say "html comments have no bearing on the JSP container." |
| 14:48.47 | Karol | or without the "template" perhaps |
| 14:48.56 | Karol | Epesh, yes. |
| 14:49.28 | Karol | But there is something terribly wrong here. We have three options: |
| 14:49.38 | Karol | 1) Tomcat is disobeying the spec |
| 14:49.39 | kmet | can anyone suggest me on wheter to use java 1.2 or 1.3?.. im dont really know java well ;) |
| 14:49.41 | Epesh | Karol: however, I'm not a member of the JSR on JSP 2.0, and I doubt I'd have any voice even if I was. Therefore, I logged a bug against Tomcat 4.1.18 for not matching the spec. |
| 14:49.44 | Karol | 2) we have it all wrong |
| 14:49.52 | Karol | 3) the spec is very buggy |
| 14:50.20 | Karol | Epesh, great |
| 14:50.26 | Epesh | chances are the first and last are correct. |
| 14:50.31 | Karol | :) |
| 14:51.20 | Karol | Can you /msg me the part of Jasper output source code that handles the <!-- <% String foo="hello"; %> --> <%= foo %> part ? |
| 14:51.33 | Epesh | Karol: I don't have tomcat's source here. |
| 14:51.38 | Epesh | And I've never seen it. |
| 14:51.43 | Karol | no.... I don't mean that |
| 14:51.56 | Epesh | Karol: oh, you want the generated code. |
| 14:52.06 | Karol | I mean, if you deploy your JSP, Tomcat (actually Jasper) generates the servlet source code and compiles it |
| 14:52.07 | Karol | yes |
| 14:52.54 | Epesh | I don't know where that would be. |
| 14:53.25 | Karol | it's in the working directory of Tomcat. But don't worry, I'll take a look |
| 14:53.32 | Karol | hold on for a sec. |
| 14:54.34 | Epesh | I see work/standalone/localhost/webapp, but not the test_jsp.java I expect |
| 14:55.49 | Epesh | ah, found it. |
| 14:55.58 | aje | Hmm... Every time I try to add the tag '<taglib></taglib>' to my WEB-INF/web.xml, Tomcat suddenly wont locate my webroot. |
| 14:56.03 | Epesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.03 | Epesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.03 | Epesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.03 | Epesh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.23 | aje | It isn't able to allocate index.jsp, even though it's located in the wwwroot. |
| 14:56.26 | aje | What's wrong? |
| 14:56.35 | Epesh | Karol: that's right, that's virtually what I have as well |
| 14:56.38 | aje | I'm trying to make taglibs work. |
| 14:57.35 | Epesh | aje: make sure your web.xml is valid |
| 14:57.38 | Karol | Epesh, so obviously Tomcat is disobeying the spec. If the spec is nonsense is another question |
| 14:57.47 | Epesh | Karol: agreed. |
| 14:58.15 | aje | Epesh: I checked out the TLD. |
| 14:58.24 | Epesh | aje: web.xml, not TLD |
| 14:58.34 | aje | Doh... I meant the dtd. |
| 14:58.35 | Epesh | the container shouldn't use the TLD until you compile the JSP that uses it. |
| 14:58.58 | Karol | aje, this looks like the web.xml is mallformed. If this is the case, Tomcat won't start the webapp |
| 14:59.05 | Epesh | aje: I don't know offhand, then. I'm not a tomcat expert by any means. |
| 14:59.05 | aje | Karol: Hmmm... Ok. |
| 14:59.18 | aje | May I paste four lines here? |
| 14:59.31 | aje | Four small lines. |
| 14:59.43 | Karol | If you are using a 4.x version of Tomcat, you can use the features of JSP 1.2 . In this case, it is enough to have the TLD in /META-INF of the .jar holding the taglib classes |
| 15:00.01 | Karol | you do not need to make an explicit reference to the taglib in the web.xml deployment descriptor |
| 15:00.06 | aje | I use 4.1.18. |
| 15:00.23 | Karol | (In JSP 1.1, you had to do it.) |
| 15:00.47 | aje | I have put the necessary .jar-files in $TOMCATHOME/common/lib. |
| 15:00.52 | Karol | Ah |
| 15:00.54 | Karol | no |
| 15:00.58 | aje | (Where all the other jar-files are located.) |
| 15:01.06 | aje | And I've put the .tld-files into the /WEB-INF/ |
| 15:01.14 | aje | Where should I place the .jar-files then? |
| 15:01.17 | Karol | I would think that you need to put it to the /WEB-INF/lib |
| 15:01.19 | Karol | of your webapp |
| 15:01.22 | aje | Ok. |
| 15:01.26 | aje | To secs. |
| 15:01.48 | Karol | But this doesn't really tell why the webapp wouldn't start. I would take a look at the tomcat log file |
| 15:02.11 | Karol | it might be the case that the web.xml is either not wellformed XML or doesn't go with the DTD |
| 15:03.05 | aje | Well, should I remove the taglib-directives from web.xml? |
| 15:03.18 | Karol | did you develop the taglib? |
| 15:03.23 | aje | Nope, it's the jstl. |
| 15:03.24 | Karol | or is it a 3rd party taglib |
| 15:03.29 | aje | It's jstl. |
| 15:03.38 | Karol | Hm. Can you please /msg me the web.xml ? |
| 15:03.46 | aje | Well, yes. |
| 15:06.15 | Karol | hm |
| 15:06.30 | Karol | Without the taglib definition in web.xml, did the webapp start? |
| 15:07.38 | Karol | And, did you place the TLD to /WEB-INF/fmt.tld ? |
| 15:08.26 | aje | Yes. |
| 15:08.36 | aje | Without the taglib-definition, the webapp starts. |
| 15:08.50 | aje | No wait!!! |
| 15:08.54 | aje | It's starts now! :) |
| 15:09.04 | Karol | ok :) |
| 15:09.13 | aje | It was just necessary to copy the jar-files into the /WEB-INF/lib/ |
| 15:09.14 | aje | :) |
| 15:09.16 | aje | Thanks. ;) |
| 15:09.18 | Karol | ok |
| 15:09.28 | Karol | it looked ok |
| 15:09.54 | aje | :) |
| 15:16.26 | a4akb | for i=1 to n; |
| 15:16.42 | a4akb | happy=happy+n; |
| 15:17.01 | a4akb | happy exp(happy); |
| 15:18.38 | a4akb | ren tomcat happy.org |
| 15:21.38 | ianni | ren? ewww |
| 15:21.46 | ianni | ;P |
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| 15:24.48 | Karol | hello vakYpollo |
| 15:24.55 | vakYpollo | hiez. |
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| 15:45.00 | akb | so |
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| 16:02.39 | akb | alu |
| 16:16.34 | akb | bbl |
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| 16:30.17 | Hydr0gen | Quick/easy question |
| 16:30.34 | Hydr0gen | I have an app deployed already on Tomcat - I want to build it back into a .war -- best way to do so? |
| 16:31.00 | Epesh | Hydr0gen: cd $TOMCAT/webapps/YourApp; jar cvf ../YourApp.jar * |
| 16:31.28 | Hydr0gen | Doesn't need an ear ? |
| 16:32.47 | Epesh | no |
| 16:32.53 | Hydr0gen | Cool.. Thanks :) |
| 16:33.35 | Karol | cannot do an ear on Tomcat, can you |
| 16:33.40 | Karol | ? |
| 16:34.05 | Epesh | Karol: not that I know of, not without a container around it |
| 16:34.08 | Karol | Tomcat couldn't handle the ejb archives anyway |
| 16:34.22 | Karol | right. |
| 16:34.35 | Hydr0gen | cool cool |
| 16:34.48 | Hydr0gen | Thanks guys |
| 16:34.53 | Karol | But the interesting question is, would Tomcat recognize an EAR with just a single WAR in it? (+a simple application.xml) |
| 16:35.17 | Epesh | Karol: I doubt it. |
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| 17:49.50 | vakYpollo | whois running www.hellaweb.com:8888? I would like #xml will be also included :( |
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| 18:39.53 | JavaJunkie | hi all |
| 18:42.31 | JavaJunkie | does anyone know why my servlets and jsps work fine under webapps\examples but never found under \root? |
| 18:43.30 | vakYpollo | JavaJunkie: \root, /root or webapps/root ? |
| 18:43.41 | ianni | it's ROOT isnt it? |
| 18:43.44 | JavaJunkie | vakYpollo webapps/root |
| 18:43.52 | JavaJunkie | i tried both ROOT and root |
| 18:44.12 | ianni | JavaJunkie whats the problem |
| 18:44.14 | vakYpollo | what tomcat release are you using? |
| 18:44.18 | JavaJunkie | 4.1 |
| 18:44.28 | ianni | do you have errors in catalina.log |
| 18:44.38 | JavaJunkie | good question, let me check |
| 18:44.55 | ianni | always look there |
| 18:45.02 | ianni | that is stdout |
| 18:45.37 | JavaJunkie | there's no such file in my logs folder |
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| 18:46.05 | JavaJunkie | stdout looks fine: Bootstrap: Create Catalina server |
| 18:46.05 | JavaJunkie | Bootstrap: Starting service |
| 18:46.05 | JavaJunkie | Starting service Tomcat-Standalone |
| 18:46.05 | JavaJunkie | Apache Tomcat/4.1.18 |
| 18:46.05 | JavaJunkie | Bootstrap: Service started |
| 18:46.34 | vakYpollo | JavaJunkie: catalina.out ? |
| 18:46.46 | JavaJunkie | vakYpollo, no |
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| 18:46.57 | vakYpollo | there is no logs/catalina.out ? |
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| 18:47.04 | TomekN2 | hi. |
| 18:47.09 | JavaJunkie | vakYpollo no |
| 18:47.44 | vakYpollo | do you have any file in logs/? |
| 18:48.26 | TomekN2 | when a classloader deploys a .jar file from lib does it mean that every class is loaded into RAM or every class is just avalible to invoke? |
| 18:48.40 | JavaJunkie | vakYpolo they all in form: localhost_admin_log.<date> and also stderr and stdout |
| 18:49.20 | TomekN2 | my point is: if I build a smaller cocoon2 (without optionals jars) will whole cocoon use less memory? |
| 18:50.10 | vakYpollo | TomekN2: you can always test that. (sorry, I have not tried that) |
| 18:50.36 | vakYpollo | JavaJunkie: well.. what about stderr? |
| 18:50.54 | JavaJunkie | vakYpollo no errors there |
| 18:51.20 | TomekN2 | well, I dont feel like mastering memory resources java uses under linux actually :) |
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| 21:38.04 | farmer | hmm anyone using tomcat41 on freebsd with jdk1.3.1? |
| 21:38.30 | jasonb | farmer: Probably not. :) |
| 21:38.45 | farmer | dang:) |
| 21:38.52 | jasonb | Problem? |
| 21:38.54 | farmer | i try to run tomcat41ctl start |
| 21:38.59 | farmer | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.05 | farmer | seems it has hardcoded this somewhere |
| 21:39.08 | farmer | stupid :) |
| 21:39.19 | jasonb | tomcat41ctl isn't part of Tomcat, so yell at your wonderful FreeBSD guys. |
| 21:39.27 | farmer | ah its not:) |
| 21:39.35 | farmer | ok there must be another way to start this beast |
| 21:39.41 | jasonb | Of course. |
| 21:39.46 | farmer | i set JAVA_HOME and ran ./startup.sh |
| 21:39.52 | farmer | but i see no proceses |
| 21:39.53 | jasonb | That's documented in the readme-type files. |
| 21:39.59 | farmer | right ;p |
| 21:40.01 | jasonb | (and probably on the web site too) |
| 21:40.01 | farmer | i should read |
| 21:40.45 | farmer | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.48 | farmer | gah i did that:p |
| 21:41.07 | farmer | hmm maybe it is running |
| 21:41.11 | farmer | root 65757 0.0 6.5 106792 25000 p4 S 10:36PM 0:14.08 (java) |
| 21:41.16 | farmer | have to try it out |
| 21:42.53 | farmer | ok im totaly lost here.. i should run mod_jk with my apache too to speed things up? |
| 21:43.07 | jasonb | No. |
| 21:43.13 | farmer | Info: Apache module for Tomcat 3 |
| 21:43.15 | farmer | i guess not |
| 21:43.15 | jasonb | You shouldn't run Apache at all. |
| 21:43.27 | farmer | hehe what then? |
| 21:43.49 | farmer | ok nm |
| 21:43.53 | farmer | i go back to reading |
| 21:43.54 | jasonb | Ummm, Tomcat. |
| 21:44.00 | farmer | yeah i figure.. |
| 21:44.11 | farmer | ok ignore me until i have this working |
| 21:44.19 | jasonb | My pleasure. :) |
| 21:44.24 | farmer | :> |
| 21:45.11 | farmer | root java 65757 4 tcp4 *:8180 *:* |
| 21:45.12 | farmer | root java 65757 7 tcp4 *:8009 *:* |
| 21:45.13 | farmer | aha little beast |
| 21:46.47 | farmer | bah its sloww.. i need to get a monster cpu |
| 21:52.30 | jasonb | Are you judging the very first request? |
| 21:52.41 | jasonb | (only?) |
| 21:55.14 | jasonb | It shouldn't be slow. If it's slow, then there's something wrong with your FreeBSD installation of it. |
| 21:59.25 | farmer | yeah i forgot |
| 21:59.28 | farmer | taht it compiles the first time |
| 21:59.43 | TomekN2 | when a classloader deploys a .jar file from lib does it mean that every class is loaded into RAM or every class is just avalible to invoke? my point is: if I build a smaller cocoon2 (without optionals jars) will whole cocoon use less memory? |
| 21:59.51 | farmer | it is a while since i used this back in 2001 |
| 21:59.59 | farmer | and that was hp's j2ee server |
| 22:00.15 | jasonb | TomekN2: It'll use less space on disk, but no, won't use less memory |
| 22:00.41 | farmer | ok now a real question.. i edited tomcat-users.xml but it doesnt seem to work/take effect.. must i reload something? |
| 22:00.58 | jasonb | You should only edit that file when Tomcat is shut down. |
| 22:01.39 | TomekN2 | jasonb so that does not matter for my RAM amount if Cocoon2 lib dir has 20MB of *.jars or only 5MB? Will it run about the same fast? |
| 22:01.39 | farmer | aha.. though so |
| 22:02.29 | jasonb | It just depends on how many classes your app actually uses. If a class isn't used, it isn't loaded, and takes up no RAM. |
| 22:02.39 | jasonb | Well, almost no RAM. |
| 22:02.50 | TomekN2 | i see. |
| 22:03.05 | jasonb | I think the WebApp class loader keeps an index of what's available inside the jars, but that index is pretty small. |
| 22:03.47 | jasonb | I haven't verified this, but that's how I understand it from reading source and from reading mailing lists. |
| 22:04.48 | TomekN2 | That is also what I suspected, but I wanted to here from someone else |
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| 22:14.44 | TomekN2 | i have one more question: what exactly 'total' and 'free' memory in a webapp mean? |
| 22:17.48 | jasonb | Where are you looking? |
| 22:19.47 | TomekN2 | Runtime.getRuntime().freeMemory() and Runtime.getRuntime().totalMemory() |
| 22:20.46 | jasonb | That's the total memory of the entire JVM. |
| 22:22.13 | TomekN2 | total means total avalible or total used? |
| 22:23.00 | jasonb | For the official answer, see the Javadocs for that core class library method. But, I would assume it's the total amount of memory that the JVM allocated at startup. |
| 22:23.55 | TomekN2 | that could be true, because that amount doesn't change in time |
| 22:24.28 | TomekN2 | but when i ad this total to free it usually is about the memory i see java process takes |
| 22:24.34 | TomekN2 | s/ad/add |
| 22:28.01 | TomekN2 | thanks jasonb. |
| 22:28.39 | jasonb | No problem. |
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| 22:38.35 | toby | I've some minor config problems after install. |
| 22:40.54 | *** join/#tomcat a4akb (akb@as7-69.qualitynet.net) |
| 22:41.22 | a4akb | hey sup |
| 22:42.27 | a4akb | Goodmorning! |
| 22:42.32 | a4akb | how are you today? |
| 22:43.51 | jasonb | a4akb: Wow, you're pretty springy today. |
| 22:44.01 | a4akb | lol |
| 22:44.17 | a4akb | no am not, am my same usual self. |
| 22:44.40 | jasonb | Well, you're normally almost that springy, I think. |
| 22:45.01 | a4akb | ty |
| 22:45.27 | a4akb | hey look what i found http://www.freewebsitehosting.com/ |
| 22:46.47 | a4akb | laughing is for joecartoon |
| 22:47.21 | a4akb | the website promises to offer free website hosting and space |
| 22:47.32 | a4akb | yourname.freewebsitehosting.com.. |
| 22:47.32 | jasonb | "Congratulations, the site payme.freewebsitehosting.com is available!" |
| 22:47.40 | a4akb | lol |
| 22:48.41 | a4akb | http://signup.freewebsitehosting.com/signup?p=freewebsitehosting&username=jasonb |
| 22:50.05 | jasonb | http://www.freewebhosting.com/ |
| 22:50.23 | a4akb | is it worth? |
| 22:50.43 | a4akb | http://signup.freewebsitehosting.com/signup_after3choice |
| 22:50.56 | jasonb | "Congratulations, the site signup.freewebsitehosting.com is available!" !!! |
| 22:51.21 | a4akb | lol |
| 22:51.46 | a4akb | nowonder you are the chief of your staff where u work |
| 22:51.48 | a4akb | :) |
| 22:52.08 | jasonb | Why, cause I can cause more havoc than others? :) |
| 22:52.18 | a4akb | yes! ;) |
| 22:52.31 | a4akb | thats what leadership qualities are about aint it ;) |
| 22:54.50 | a4akb | HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT FREE vs PAID ACCOUNTS PLEASE CALL (801) 361-1177 |
| 22:54.54 | jasonb | " Your Subdomain That You Chose Is A Reserved Name" |
| 22:55.08 | a4akb | oops |
| 22:56.30 | a4akb | hey jasonb, if my company wants to launch webhoisting services, you got any nice website that gives better options for resellers and bulk domains et all? |
| 22:56.56 | jasonb | webhoisting!! Yeah, those webs are heavy! :) |
| 22:57.42 | a4akb | hmm |
| 22:57.47 | a4akb | i did a search |
| 22:57.53 | a4akb | www.bulkdomains.com |
| 22:58.37 | jasonb | Well, hmm, there was one article on Slashdot.org years ago about which domain registrar was best, and reading that I found it was gandi.net, which is what I use.. way, way cheap and good legally too. |
| 22:58.45 | a4akb | but am not sure about the price and the speed of the server |
| 22:58.54 | jasonb | It was like 11 euros per year, and their service has been great. |
| 22:59.04 | a4akb | cool |
| 23:00.38 | jasonb | To look to see if a domain is taken, I use geektools: www.geektools.com |
| 23:00.50 | jasonb | Click on the whois. |
| 23:01.11 | a4akb | okay |
| 23:01.39 | jasonb | It usually works great. |
| 23:01.51 | a4akb | nice |
| 23:02.24 | a4akb | www.fasthosts.com is a uk based co. i heard its good too |
| 23:02.49 | a4akb | here basically ppl prefer uk based servers as its nearer.. |
| 23:03.07 | a4akb | i guess now a days distance dosnt make much of a diff isnt it? |
| 23:03.27 | jasonb | Not a whole lot, but sometimes a little. |
| 23:03.37 | jasonb | It's making less of a diff every year, which is good. |
| 23:03.50 | a4akb | yep |
| 23:04.27 | a4akb | what does ur company do basically? |
| 23:05.55 | jasonb | Who, mine? |
| 23:06.02 | a4akb | yes :) |
| 23:06.23 | a4akb | you gave a job description but didnt tell what is ur co. about |
| 23:06.24 | jasonb | We write collaborative software development project hosting software. |
| 23:06.39 | a4akb | coo |
| 23:06.39 | jasonb | a4akb: See http://www.collab.net |
| 23:06.40 | a4akb | l |
| 23:06.47 | jasonb | Yes, it's pretty coo. |
| 23:06.53 | a4akb | lol |
| 23:07.01 | a4akb | u married jason? |
| 23:07.13 | jasonb | You? |
| 23:07.24 | jasonb | And what do you do for a living? |
| 23:07.28 | a4akb | aww thats very nice :) |
| 23:07.38 | a4akb | best regards to your family |
| 23:07.44 | jasonb | Thanks. |
| 23:07.48 | a4akb | does she too think you grow corns? |
| 23:07.49 | a4akb | :D |
| 23:07.52 | a4akb | ;) |
| 23:08.49 | a4akb | am single :) |
| 23:09.35 | a4akb | and am forced/thrusted to be operations manager of my company but i like to call me as a "so called" software engineer lol |
| 23:09.50 | jasonb | My wife knows I write software, but I don't think she knows what any of it is (not that she ever wonders). |
| 23:10.08 | a4akb | hehehe |
| 23:10.21 | a4akb | u got any little angles apart from your venus? |
| 23:10.36 | jasonb | a4akb: I used to be a sysadmin, but I really wanted to just write software instead. So, you can do it if you really want to. |
| 23:10.42 | jasonb | Angles? |
| 23:11.04 | a4akb | babies |
| 23:11.09 | a4akb | stinkers? |
| 23:11.14 | a4akb | what do u call them? |
| 23:12.04 | a4akb | i recall someone sending me the pic of their son and the pic was named "little-stinker" |
| 23:13.51 | a4akb | the brat in the pic had a shocking red face, he had painted his face with lipstick of her elder sister.. |
| 23:14.03 | a4akb | :) |
| 23:14.05 | a4akb | lol |
| 23:14.22 | a4akb | stinker is a strange name to give |
| 23:14.30 | jasonb | :) |
| 23:14.32 | a4akb | oops d1 got bored |
| 23:14.55 | a4akb | hey d1 comeback |
| 23:14.58 | jasonb | :) |
| 23:15.07 | a4akb | good boy |
| 23:16.30 | a4akb | i want to be an efficient and a productive programer but my boss wants me to manage the company, sometimes i do feel i need to look for better job |
| 23:17.14 | jasonb | Whoa, yer a big manager guy. |
| 23:17.23 | a4akb | its a small company..and i fear the kind of experience i am gaining is more of management side than programing side |
| 23:17.43 | a4akb | lol noway a humble small company |
| 23:17.48 | jasonb | Yeah, be careful, as a manager you're not supposed to know anything technical! |
| 23:17.55 | a4akb | lol |
| 23:18.03 | a4akb | doh right |
| 23:18.23 | d1rty | wow, this is the most activity I've seen in #tomcat in.... forever! |
| 23:18.37 | a4akb | lol d1 get used to it :P |
| 23:18.50 | jasonb | There's really just two of us in here shooting the breese. |
| 23:19.07 | a4akb | lol jasonb |
| 23:19.24 | jasonb | But yeah, I think Tomcat's getting a little more popular now. |
| 23:19.28 | jasonb | (finally) |
| 23:19.34 | a4akb | :P |
| 23:19.44 | jasonb | After like 4 years. |
| 23:20.38 | a4akb | u want me to get some folks in here? they will be happy to camp around for sure ^_^ |
| 23:20.57 | a4akb | i fear hella will suffer massive palpatations and an attack too |
| 23:21.33 | a4akb | i wonder where and what is he doing atm as we talk |
| 23:22.17 | *** join/#tomcat anelson (~andy@12-254-190-230.client.attbi.com) |
| 23:23.04 | anelson | so a recently installed tomcat an then ran nessus to be sure nothing bad was running and it says you can see arbitrary directories if you do stuff like ../ etc |
| 23:23.32 | anelson | i wonder if there is a way to turn this on and off in the config file? |
| 23:23.50 | anelson | or if this is a bug that will shortly be fixed? |
| 23:25.30 | a4akb | lol jinx :) |
| 23:25.56 | jasonb | First!! |
| 23:26.36 | a4akb | :) |
| 23:26.46 | a4akb | good men always finish last :P or was it second? |
| 23:26.50 | a4akb | http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/theboss/ |
| 23:27.02 | a4akb | did i show you this and the flies-2 one ? |
| 23:27.38 | anelson | nessus is a security tool |
| 23:27.58 | a4akb | cool anelson |
| 23:28.01 | anelson | basically tries a bunch the know hacks on a machine you specify |
| 23:28.39 | anelson | i'm sorta amazed that tomcat would allow this simple of an attack |
| 23:29.21 | a4akb | what kind of attack |
| 23:29.34 | a4akb | anelson send us the logs immediatly if u can |
| 23:29.34 | jasonb | anelson: What version of Tomcat did you test? |
| 23:29.48 | jasonb | Tomcat doesn't allow that kind of attack. |
| 23:30.19 | anelson | jasonb: jakarta-tomcat-4.1.18-LE-jdk14 |
| 23:30.44 | jasonb | anelson: Did you verify that attack by hand? With a web browser or telnet? |
| 23:31.10 | anelson | jasonb: not yet -- i'm working on it right now |
| 23:31.21 | jasonb | That would be good to try. |
| 23:31.39 | jasonb | I'll bet you'll find that nessus is wrong about Tomcat being vulnerable to that kind of an attack. |
| 23:32.01 | jasonb | But, if I'm wrong about that, then you've stumbled across a very important thing to fix. |
| 23:32.51 | jasonb | But, I didn't try everything. |
| 23:34.36 | a4akb | http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/superfly2/ |
| 23:35.09 | hellabot | "TomekN2" pasted Does somebody know why I still see these errors? at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/71 |
| 23:35.12 | a4akb | :) maybe other time |
| 23:35.55 | anelson | jasonb: I just barely installed this and i'm thinking maybe i didn't install the logfile that would show all the url's someone tried to go to? |
| 23:37.17 | TomekN2 | tomcat unfortunately does not log errors in the manner apache does |
| 23:40.36 | anelson | yeah but isn't it a requirment of the rfc to log the the GET part of a request -- along with a few other things? |
| 23:41.32 | TomekN2 | tomcat logs co called access events (requests and status numbers of answers) |
| 23:41.36 | jasonb | The file formats aren't the same, but Tomcat does log errors if it is configured to do so. |
| 23:42.07 | anelson | jasonb: error loging is one thing -- what about logging the request the server recieves |
| 23:42.08 | TomekN2 | but does not log errors (some special status codes) to separate file as apache does (error_log) |
| 23:42.25 | TomekN2 | jasonb how? |
| 23:42.55 | jasonb | Turn up the debug="" value everywhere and you'll see lots more logging going on. |
| 23:43.04 | jasonb | (in server.xml I mean) |
| 23:43.29 | TomekN2 | this is trash :) i just wanted to see 404's :) |
| 23:43.31 | jasonb | I think that should probably say log="" instead, though. |
| 23:43.46 | jasonb | TomekN2: If you want custom logging, you can always write a valve to do that. |
| 23:44.03 | jasonb | But, actually I think the AccessLogValve does log 404s. |
| 23:44.29 | TomekN2 | jasonb of course - it loggs all erros codes as they are status codes - in access_log |
| 23:44.33 | anelson | so it sounds like I want AccessLogValve |
| 23:44.54 | TomekN2 | but there is no way ("out of the box") to separate special codes to another file |
| 23:45.08 | jasonb | TomekN2: That would be custom logging. |
| 23:45.18 | anelson | hopefull i can hook that up to the The Coyote HTTP/1.1 Connector |
| 23:45.26 | TomekN2 | yep. but apache has such custom logging out of the box :) |
| 23:45.26 | jasonb | TomekN2: Out of the box, Tomcat allows you to plug your custom logging code into Tomcat via the Valves API. |
| 23:45.59 | jasonb | Just because the Apache folks decided to cater to that kind of custom logging doesn't mean all web server projects will also. |
| 23:46.16 | TomekN2 | but i admit this is not the top level problem as i could always grep access_log per 404 |
| 23:46.29 | jasonb | Right. |
| 23:46.39 | jasonb | There are great command-line tools that help with such things. |
| 23:46.41 | TomekN2 | my main problem is that mod_jk.so erros... |
| 23:47.11 | jasonb | TomekN2: You can probably send those off to some other file, but I haven't needed to do that so I'm not totally sure how. |
| 23:47.51 | TomekN2 | http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/71 ? anybody? |
| 23:49.35 | jasonb | TomekN2: Which version of Tomcat, which connector, which version of the connector, which Apache web server version? |
| 23:49.59 | anelson | ok access log looks like what i thought the rfc said |
| 23:50.14 | jasonb | Col. |
| 23:50.17 | jasonb | Cool even! |
| 23:50.26 | anelson | now i'll run the scan an try to let you all know what patter nessus found to see beneath server root |
| 23:51.15 | TomekN2 | Tomcat 4.1.18, Coyote AJP13, mod_jk 1.2.2, Apache 1.3.24 |
| 23:52.02 | TomekN2 | Apache 1.3.26 even. |
| 23:53.13 | TomekN2 | I see some move even different errors in mod_jk.log but these i pasted to hellabot are more common (almost all the time) |
| 23:53.24 | a4akb | why do we need a container and a tumbler when we can have two in one? |
| 23:53.59 | TomekN2 | what is a tumbler? |
| 23:54.08 | a4akb | apache :P |
| 23:54.28 | TomekN2 | because of at least two reasons: |
| 23:54.53 | TomekN2 | * I cant move tomcat to tcp/80 (because of other two reasons) |
| 23:55.02 | TomekN2 | * Tomcat is still not as fast as Apache is. |
| 23:55.37 | jasonb | TomekN2: What two reasons do you have for not moving Tomcat to tcp/80? |
| 23:55.38 | a4akb | .. |
| 23:56.03 | a4akb | ok then let apache have tomcat capabilities if its that fast |
| 23:56.05 | jasonb | TomekN2: Are you seeing those errors (http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/71) under heavy or light web load? |
| 23:56.09 | TomekN2 | janson 1) i don't run tomcat as root, 2) i still need apache to serve php. |
| 23:56.20 | jasonb | 2) you can't get around, but 1) you can. |
| 23:56.53 | TomekN2 | jasonb under light load. this is going all the time |
| 23:56.58 | jasonb | 1) you can solve with port forwarding, or running Tomcat under a security manager, or chrooting Tomcat, or all three. |
| 23:57.10 | jasonb | TomekN2: Which operating system? |
| 23:57.23 | TomekN2 | jasonb Linux 2.2.19 |
| 23:58.28 | TomekN2 | jasonb porfworwarding, chrooting - this is not KISS idea for me. |