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00:02.58TPABKA../../common/jk_vm_default.c: In function `jk2_vm_guessJvmDll':
00:02.58TPABKA../../common/jk_vm_default.c:449: stray '\' in program
00:02.58TPABKAmake[1]: *** [../../../build/jk2/apache13/jk_vm_default.lo] Error 1
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00:03.06TPABKAany ideas?
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02:52.44gilbertdoes anyone here deploy a tomcat with mysql?
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04:48.15Fweebleshello
04:49.33Fweeblesif anyone is awake
04:50.09Fweebles?
04:51.50Fweebleslol
04:53.54Fweeblesanyhow, i'm trying to access a (non-bean) class in the <% %> part of a JSP page, and it keeps telling me it can't find the class.  It was originally in WEB-INF/classes/, which didn't work, and i've moved it all over creation, and it still hasn't found it
04:54.18ceeI have no idea either. There's a certain irony in that I know the least about tomcat but I am here the most.
04:54.25Fweebleslol
04:54.42ceeJust go to http://www.tessier.com/evo12/photography.html and reload a lot and look at the pictures and you won't care about it after awhile.
04:54.45ceethat's my best advice.
04:55.04Fweeblesevery web-page/howto/help file says "stick it in WEB-INF/classes", which is wha i did in the first place and which obviously doesn't work
04:56.14ceehttp://www.tessier.com/Library/tomcat/class-loader-howto.html is all I know
04:56.27Fweeblesyeah i been there :)
04:56.59Fweebles"For classes and resources specific to a particular web application, place unpacked classes and resources under /WEB-INF/classeof your web application archive"
04:57.03Fweeblesuh huh
04:57.19Fweeblesbut thanks anyway :)
04:58.10bcrochethow exactly are you trying to access the class in <% %>?
04:58.19Fweeblesjust defining it
04:58.21bcrochetFully qualified?
04:58.33Fweeblesno, i don't know what the fully qualified class name would be
04:58.42bcrochetIncluding the package name
04:58.46Fweeblesi gathered that was the problem, but didn't know how to fix it
04:58.51Fweeblesit doesn't have a package at the moment
04:58.57bcrochetHmm....
04:59.22bcrochetSo it is residing directly in WEB-INF/classes?
04:59.27bcrochetno subdir?
04:59.32Fweeblesyep
04:59.49bcrochetAnd you are doing <% Foo f = new Foo(); %>?
04:59.52Fweeblesyep
04:59.54Fweeblesi'm trying to stick it in a subdir with package name now
05:00.00bcrochetk.
05:00.44Fweeblesaha!  that might have worked
05:01.08ceebrochet to the rescue!
05:01.46Fweeblesnow i have a null pointer, but i think that's a result of not being able to pull that object out of my HTTP session...but at least it's not complaining that class doesn't exist :)
05:02.55bcrochetNot sure why it wouldn't pull it from the default package though.
05:03.00Fweeblesi know
05:03.07bcrochetLet me try something.
05:03.09Fweeblesi must have something weird in my setup somewhere, i dunno what though
05:07.26bcrochetProbably not.
05:07.42bcrochetI just tried a class without a package, and I got that it couldn't resolve the symbol.
05:07.55Fweebleshmm....the docs imply that you can but....who knows
05:08.00bcrochetMoral of the story: always use packages. :)
05:08.06Fweeblesyeah well, i was lazy today :)
05:08.10bcrochethehe
05:08.30Fweeblesnow it's classcast-exceptioning on me, but i think i just have to add the package name to the other part
05:08.49bcrochetYes. You probably still have the old class laying too.
05:08.57bcrochetlaying around
05:12.11Fweeblesoh
05:12.11Fweeblesmy
05:12.12FweeblesGOD
05:12.14Fweeblesit works
05:12.19bcrochet:)
05:12.37bcrochetIt SHOULD work without a package, but...
05:12.40Fweeblesi just half-assed up a 'user' object
05:12.55Fweeblesthat lets me login (not in any secure way) and then remembers who i am, etc.
05:13.28bcrochetJust promise me you aren't going to leave any scriptlet code in your .jsp. :)
05:13.33Fweeblesi was going to use EJBs, but that seems like extreme overkill, does it not?
05:13.34Fweeblesno no
05:13.40bcrochetYes, it does.
05:13.55bcrochet*cough* *Struts* *cough*
05:14.13Fweebleswhat the heck are struts?  other than hearing the name, i don't know jack
05:14.23bcrochethttp://jakarta.apache.org/struts
05:14.37bcrochetIt's an MVC architecture for webapps
05:14.41Fweebleshmmm
05:14.44bcrochetVERY nice, VERY powerful
05:14.55Fweebleslooks like i have another book to buy :P
05:15.05bcrochetStruts in Action is a good one.
05:15.12Fweeblesi tried doing the java web developer tutorial one time....it was a sad state of affairs
05:15.17bcrochetYou can get an e-book version for half the cost of the paper
05:15.34bcrochetAnd if you want the paper one later, they give you half off that one. :)
05:15.38Fweebleshehe
05:15.59bcrochethttp://www.manning.com/husted/
05:16.04bcrochetStruts will do it. :)
05:16.14bcrochetA lot of companies are realizing the power.
05:16.16Fweebles<-- graduating in two months
05:16.34bcrochetStruts is a big plus on the resume.
05:16.51bcrochetMake sure you understand MVC as well.
05:17.11Fweeblesi'm not too bad with MVC from swing, and other places
05:17.14bcrochetTrust me. Last two interviews I've had, both involved struts.
05:17.19Fweebleseek
05:17.33bcrochetYou can get up to speed in no time on it though.
05:18.02bcrochetOnce you have the "Aha!" moment with it, it just becomes so CLEAR.
05:18.47bcrochetBesides the MVC stuff, it has a great taglib.
05:19.02bcrochetImagine having a collection, and just using <logic:iterate>
05:19.10bcrochetVERY schweet.
05:19.48bcrochetFor instance, you have a custom tag that exposes a java.util.Collection to the page as a variable.
05:20.48bcrochetThen, to iterate of the Collection, you do: <logic:iterate id="element" collection="<%= coll %>" type="foo.bar.SomeType">
05:21.07bcrochetIt will expose a bean in every iteration of foo.bar.SomeType, and name it element.
05:21.18Fweebleshmm
05:21.31bcrochetThen you can do: <bean:write name="element" property="prop"/>
05:21.40bcrochetAnd that would call SomeType.getProp()
05:21.48bcrochetAnd output it on the page.
05:22.00bcrochetPower man. Power.
05:22.03Fweeblesand then </logic> ?
05:22.08bcrochetOf course.
05:22.13Fweeblesokay, just making sure i'm not in left field :)
05:22.39Fweebleson the last web-app job i had, I used ATG Dynamo, which had a lot of stuff like that
05:22.45Fweeblesbut it was proprietary
05:22.58bcrochetA buddy of mine is always talking abut Dynamo. :)
05:22.59Fweeblesand that was a while ago
05:23.04Fweebleslol
05:23.11ceeI run dynamo.
05:23.20Fweebleswhat version are they up to now?
05:23.22ceethe webserver I wrote will even talk to it over their DRP protocol
05:23.25ceeand wasn't that hell
05:23.31ceeI run the stone age 4.5
05:23.32bcrochetbrb. smoke.
05:23.38Fweeblesthat was what i used in april 2001
05:23.45Fweebleswe were switching to 5.1 as I left
05:24.11ceeWe're stuck on that version for various reasons.
05:24.17Fweebles5.1 was SO SLOW
05:24.26Fweebleslike...took 20 minutes to boot up on my PC
05:24.27ceeprobably just as well then ;)
05:24.39ceewell we run it on sun
05:24.51Fweebleswe do too, but developers run it local for testing
05:25.00FweeblesI couldn't do the whole "stop-recompile-restart" process, because it would take half an hour
05:25.15Fweeblesi think it was because it automatically took up more memory than my PC had
05:25.21ceehaha
05:25.25Fweeblesand i had 512 megs
05:25.30ceeI've never tried to run it on a pc.
05:25.41Fweebles4.5 ran fine
05:26.44ceewell remind me to never upgrade then
05:27.04Fweebleswell maybe whatever version they have for 5 now works better, this was almost 2 years ago, mind you :)
05:27.39ceethey are on 6 now I think
05:28.04ceeI try not to look because it reminds me that eventually when we call them at 3 in the morning they will tell us it's EOL'd
05:28.13Fweebleshaha
05:28.14ceebut thankfully we never call them and if it hasn't broken yet it won't
05:28.27Fweeblesfrig i'm going to have to buy this book
05:32.44bcrochetHighly recommend it.
05:33.00FweeblesI have to relearn JSP first :P
05:33.08bcrochethehe
05:33.22Fweeblesit doesn't help that I haven't done much useful with it to begin with
05:33.28Fweeblesand i don't remember a damn thing from Dynamo
05:35.09ceeI hear they dropped the dynomometer from the newer versions
05:35.27Fweeblesi don't think i ever used that
05:35.41ceeit is the schnizit
05:36.04Fweeblesoh?
05:36.18ceeYeah it's just this cool monitoring app
05:36.27Fweeblesahhh yes, i think i remember now
05:36.27ceeit was always hiding in the jar, and was sort of documented
05:36.30ceebut it was really cool looking
05:36.49ceethis like big gear graphic over layed with cool graphs
05:36.58ceeI wish I had a screenshot handy
05:37.47Fweeblesso bcrochet, is there anything specific I should be learning related to JSP?  Besides struts? :)
05:37.58FweeblesEJB, SOAP, etc..?
05:46.58Fweeblesi think i killed him :)
05:49.35ceepeople suffer from narcalepsy here
05:49.57Fweeblesahha
05:50.27ceeIt's really annoyinzzzZZZ zzz zzzZZZZ
05:51.21Fweebleshehe
06:02.04ceelook on the bright side, we just fall asleep
06:02.23ceehttp://tessier.com/2003/Life/02/17/irc_death/
06:02.25ceehe actually died
06:11.32Fweeblesha
06:26.37TPABKAhey
06:26.48TPABKAlive ppl here? :)
06:27.11TPABKAmy jk2 doesn't want to compile
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06:27.52TPABKAright...
06:27.54TPABKAzzzz
06:28.09TPABKA../../common/jk_vm_default.c: In function `jk2_vm_guessJvmDll':
06:28.09TPABKA../../common/jk_vm_default.c:449: stray '\' in program
06:28.09TPABKAmake[1]: *** [../../../build/jk2/apache13/jk_vm_default.lo] Error 1
06:28.09TPABKAmake[1]: Leaving directory `/opt/src/jakarta-tomcat-connectors-4.1.18-src/jk/native2/server/apache13'
06:28.09TPABKAmake: *** [jk2-build] Error 1
06:28.41TPABKAideas?
06:30.58Fweebleseek
06:33.48Fweeblesno idea
06:34.06ceefweeb, canadia?
06:34.15TPABKAi do buildconf/cofigure/make
06:34.33Fweeblesmmhmm
06:34.49ceebc?
06:34.55Fweeblesontario
06:35.06ceeI hadn't realized rogers had become a global hegemony
06:36.13Fweebleslol
06:36.52TPABKAhmm
06:37.04TPABKAdeleted that \ and it compiles...
06:38.02TPABKAnow...
06:38.45TPABKAi did ./configure --with-jni but i have not jkjni.so (i think that's the name i should get)
06:38.53TPABKAwhat's wrong?
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06:47.09arfcatls -l
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09:56.33robbyHy *
09:56.40reHallo All
10:01.26reI've a smal question about config of apache and tomcat. may i ask?
10:09.58reHm, no one responding ...
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15:45.19treebarkHello, I'm seeing this in *.jsp page requests that use framesets: "Server: Apache Tomcat/4.1.18-LE-jdk14 (HTTP/1.1 Connector) " any idea what would cause this to appear?
15:50.54ceesee that where?
15:50.58ceein the HTTP response?
15:51.52treebarkyes
15:52.06ceethe software adds it.
15:52.29treebarkwhat would cause it to appear in the viewable page output though?
15:53.44ceeWell, that is what I was asking, if it was in the response (or in the page)
15:53.59ceetelnet to the server and do the request by hand and see if there is a space in the headers
15:54.28treebarkif you would please, tell me how to do a request by hand...
15:54.36ceeGET /yourpage.jsp HTTP/1.0
15:54.40ceeHost: www.yourhost.com
15:54.44cee<enter>
15:54.51treebarkgreat, I'll try that
15:55.10ceeIf there are two responses or a space in the response headers, that's why you see it.
15:55.35treebarka coworker seems to think there is a carriage return in the header...
15:56.04treebarkhowever, that doesn't give any indication as to what might put that carriage return in the header or perhaps how it gets there...any thought?
15:58.29treebarkwell, telnet is disabled (it is a production server), however we access it via ssh, but the GET doesn't seem to work the same way
16:12.33treebarkwhat is strange is that we only see this header value in the response when we browse our production server from inside our companies network
16:12.54treebarkwhen browsing the same server from outside, we have never seen that header value appear in the response
16:13.37treebarkinterestingly, it only appears on pages that are part of or is page the builds a frameset or uses an IFrame.
16:25.09ceethat sounds very odd
16:39.23treebarkwell...my research is leading me toward suspecting our 'transparent' proxy (watchguard) that we use inside our corporate network
16:40.30ceeaha.
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18:29.10arfcatanyone running tomcat w/ apache?
18:29.25arfcatI got a question about virtual host config w/ tomcat 4.1.18 and apache 2.0.44
18:29.31arfcatwhere do you config em?
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18:35.36TheSteve0Does anyone know who built the struts-based admin tool for tomcat?
18:58.02arfcathey .. I changed the hostname in apache from my local box IP to the virtual host .. and it broke my Tomcat connection .. apache still responds, but requests for tomcat contexts are logged as 404 because apache is trying to find the dir under it's path and not Tomcat
18:58.05arfcatany ideas?
19:07.21TheSteve0Anyone heard of  @author Manveen Kaur
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19:27.49casillohow to view the output error in a shell using tomcat4.1.18
19:28.38arfcatrephrase casillo
19:28.43arfcatI don't understand the question
19:28.54mascaracasillo: logs/catalina.out
19:29.57mascaraand of course it matters how log4j is configured ...
19:30.06casilloi want to view the jsp and servlet out.println in a linux shell like in the 3.2 version of tomcat
19:30.19arfcatover my head
19:30.20arfcatsorry
19:33.10casillothanks mascara, in tomcat 3.2 i could see this log in the shell, but with catalina i didn know
19:33.56arfcatmascare .. right now I got servername = my server's LAN IP in httpd.conf .. and I got hostname=that same IP in server.xml for Tomcat
19:34.09casillodid you know how to view this file in execution time
19:34.13arfcatapache and tomcat are working properly
19:34.56arfcatbut if I change these IPs to my virtual host, apache still works .. but it looks for servlets/JSP pages under the apache path
19:46.05TPABKAare there any detailed docs on how to compile jk2?
19:49.12TPABKAi compile --with-jni but jkjni.so doesn't get created and i get mod_jk2.so: undefined symbol: jk_jni_status_code
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20:06.46TPABKAhmm
20:06.54TPABKAanyone ever alive in this channel? :)
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20:40.43Gustavo34-RJhello there!
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20:43.25Hellaenergyyo
20:43.29Hellaenergyoh
20:46.59TPABKAyo
20:47.09TPABKAlive ppl?
20:49.18TPABKAneed help building jk2...
20:49.24TPABKAcan anyone help?
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21:09.41kmsare each jsp request run in its own thread? i was thinking of using ThreadLocale in my service-layer, which is again accessed by an action (struts)....
21:13.32ceehella promise me I'll work on my http objects this week!
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21:17.14Binbohi anybody using tomcat4 with mandrake?
21:18.09Binbowhen i run ./startup.sh then run http://localhost:8080 i got "http status 500 message ..." X_X
21:18.17Binboanyone knows why
21:26.17Binboheloooo?
21:38.34Hellaenergycee: I promise
21:43.13ceehell excellent.
22:01.34Binbohi i start tomcat4.1.18 and check http://localhost:8080, got "HTTP Status 500 - No Context configured to process this request .." anybody knows why
22:02.17Binboohhh i run this in mandrake
22:03.25Binboi did get "INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8080" message in log file
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22:24.03arfcatwhere's spline?
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23:32.47TPABKAnoone here...

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