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00:15.27arfcatuggh .. Spline, nDuff
00:15.29arfcatI give up
00:16.14Splinethat sucks
00:16.16Spline:(
00:16.29Splinedid you try stow?
00:17.37arfcatI just installed redhat without apache
00:17.41arfcatand then built the version that I needed
00:17.47arfcatnow I can't get it to talk to tomcat
00:18.50Splineerrors?
00:20.54arfcatI'm not even far enough to get errors
00:21.20arfcatI can't find any good documentation on the process
00:28.44Splinehmmm
00:28.53Splineman sorry i cant help more, im just not a redhat user
00:28.56Splineswitch to gentoo :)
00:29.47arfcat:)
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04:32.44furtiveHi folks, I'm looking for an app that generates statistics based on Tomcat log files, so far only example I've found is Sawmill ( http://www.sawmill.net/formats/Tomcat.html ), any other (preferably free) suggestions?
04:39.23HellaenergyWith a Filter you could use webalizer I belive?
04:43.12furtivecool, site statistics is a new thing for me, looking intowebalizer right now.  any other suggestions?
04:47.31Hellaenergysorry no
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04:49.36kmswebalizer is good
04:55.18HellaenergyHow does one use indexOf()?
04:56.54HellaenergyI keep getting: non-static method indexOf(java.lang.String) cannot be referenced from a static context
05:44.10SplineHella: what class?
05:58.16HellaenergySpline: I got it. I was not using an object of class
05:58.24HellaenergyString that is
06:11.41Splineah cool
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15:07.15furtiveHow does one go about adding virtual hosts in tomcat?  
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16:41.17djounesim having problems setting up a <security-constraint> section in my web.xml
16:41.56djounes[ERROR] Digester - -Parse Error at line 895 column 27: The content of element type "security-constraint" must match "(display-name?,web-resource-collection+,auth-constraint?,user-data-constraint?)"
16:42.16djounesi can show you what i have configured in my the section if you like
16:42.36djounesit is being very frustrating !
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16:44.34funroll-loopsShow us the contents of <security-constraint> ... </> .
16:44.48djounesok, i will paste it...
16:45.01djounes<security-constraint>
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16:45.01Hellaenergyuse http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/
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16:45.57Hellaenergydjounes: next time use http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/
16:46.20djounesi didnt realize you were talking to me.. sorry
16:46.35Hellaenergynp
16:47.02djounesi am doing this in my $TOMCAT_HOME/conf/web.xml because i want to protect a directory under my ROOT context
16:47.32djounestomcat-4.1.18
16:47.33funroll-loopsSo, you have  display-name, web-resource-collection, auth-constraint, security-role, user-data-constraint, login-config  .
16:47.49funroll-loopsThat doesn't  match display-name?,web-resource-collection+,auth-constraint?,user-data-constraint?
16:48.30djounesuhm, ok? i will trim it down and comment out those additional sections...
16:48.37djounesis that what you are suggesting?
16:48.38funroll-loopsAdditional?  Stop.
16:48.49funroll-loopsTell us what's wrong, first.
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16:49.20djounesit doesnt work? i get this error in catalina.out : [ERROR] Digester - -Parse Error at line 895 column 27: The content of element type "security-constraint" must match "(display-name?,web-resource-collection+,auth-constraint?,user-data-constraint?)". <org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: The content of element type "security-constraint" must match "(display-name?,web-resource-collection+,auth-constraint?,user-data-constraint?)".>
16:49.34djounesmessage Configuration error: Cannot perform access control without an authenticated principal
16:49.42djouneswhen i go to my /protected
16:49.47funroll-loopsNo, no, no.  Tell us what you're planning to "trim out"
16:49.58_RainMkr_I've been asked to install tomcat. Now I'm an SA so installing isn't much of an issue but knowing *what* to install has me confused.
16:50.23_RainMkr_what is the difference between the LE and non LE?
16:50.27funroll-loopsdjounes: Do you know what  "display-name?,web-resource-collection+,auth-constraint?,user-data-constraint?" means?
16:50.48djounesthose are the sections in the <security-constraint> that i need, right?
16:51.28funroll-loops"need"?  No.  Are possible, yes.  Do you understand the question-marks?
16:51.34djounesno, i dont
16:51.42funroll-loopsThe plus-signs?
16:51.57djounesnope, i was assuming that the + meant i had it and it was syntactically correct
16:52.09djounesexplain me the symbols please
16:52.40funroll-loopsdjounes: Question-marks is a "operator" in some languages (Regex, e.g.) that symbolize zero or one occurance of something.
16:52.54funroll-loopsA "+" means "one or more occurance"
16:53.02funroll-loopsLack of an operator means exactly one.
16:53.59funroll-loopsallowed: display-name?,web-resource-collection+,auth-constraint?,user-data-constraint?
16:54.03funroll-loopsYou have:   display-name, web-resource-collection, auth-constraint, security-role, user-data-constraint, login-config
16:54.36djounesso, i should comment out the sections that are not allows... security-role and login-config ?
16:55.17funroll-loopsOh, but you don't have "security-role" as a child of "security-constraint".
16:55.37djounesshould it be outside of the section?
16:55.40funroll-loopsA grandchild, yes, but that's not "security-constraint"'s concern.
16:56.13funroll-loopsThe problem is probably "login-config" -- that's not listed at all as a possible child of "security-constraint".
16:57.36funroll-loopsOh, you _do_ have security-role as a child -- sorry!
16:57.59funroll-loopsYes, security-role can't be a child either.
16:59.07djounesis there a different place I should put <login-config> and <security-role> ?
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17:01.54funroll-loopsPerhaps outside of security-constraint, perhaps as grand+children of security-constraint .  Look at the first line of that file.  There's a URL that tells you what may be within what.
17:02.31djounesok, i found an http site that has better info than all the other examples i was looking at...
17:02.45djouneshttp://www.fawcette.com/javapro/2002_06/magazine/features/bkurniawan/
17:03.02TheDrawI was just debugging something... noticed that tomcat treats http HEAD, OPTIONS, PUT, etc as if they were 'GET'.  Is it supposed to do this?
17:06.48djounesah, ok, i put the security-role and login-config as there own parents inside <web-app> and now i get clean startup and asked for password..
17:07.45funroll-loopsTheDraw:  HEAD, yes.  I don't know of the others.
17:08.07djouneshmm, now is it possible to have the passwords stored in MD5 or crypt in my tomcat-users.xml ?
17:08.33HellaenergyTheDraw: The people who wrote the servlet/jsp would have had to designed it that way I think
17:09.11Hellaenergydjounes That would be nice wouldn't it :)
17:09.30djounesheh
17:11.53djounesso, is that a not-doable thing atm?
17:17.22TheDrawHellaenergy: I think I'll check some other apps out and see if that's true. ;)
17:18.01HellaenergyTheDraw: I am going off the examples in the O'reilly Servlet book
17:36.27TheDrawHellaenergy: yeah, it looks like you're right.
17:38.11Hellaenergy:)
17:39.15TheDrawhehe
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17:54.47HellaenergyHi Spline
17:56.25Splineheyhey
17:56.29Splinehows things?
17:56.39Hellaenergygood and busy and you?
17:56.54Splinegood and busy and annoying
17:57.05Spline(still trying to get linux on this stupid sparcstation 4)
17:57.14Hellaenergywhat version?
17:57.29HellaenergyI got a spacstation 5 at home :)
17:57.37funroll-loopsSpline: Ooo!  I have a SS10.  
17:57.42funroll-loopsWhat's the problem?
17:57.45Splineah
17:57.48SplineI need 2.4
17:57.58Splineso the only tftp boot I could find was aurora
17:58.01Spline(yuck)
17:58.06Splineso i used that to get Gentoo on there
17:58.09funroll-loops"aurora?"
17:58.09Splinebut its tar was broken
17:58.12Splineand the story goes on
17:58.19Splinehttp://auroralinux.org
17:58.20HellaenergySpline: Have you hear of splack?
17:58.23Splineits a sparc port of redhat
17:58.26Splineyea
17:58.32Splinesplack hasnt been touched since july
17:58.37SplineI have slackware on 2 x86 boxen
17:58.53HellaenergyDid you know there is a #sparc channel?
17:59.06Splineyea
17:59.12Splineg4lt helped me out last night from there
17:59.15HellaenergyThose guys a great
17:59.21Hellaenergycool
18:01.00funroll-loopsSpline: is Debian out of the question?
18:01.19Splineyes
18:01.26Spline2.2 on sparc32
18:01.29Hellaenergywhy?
18:01.41Splinethe whole point of this box is 2.4 / netfilter / freeswan
18:01.50SplineI am going to have a long road of finding bugs and submitting patches
18:01.52HellaenergySpline: what could you possibly be using that old as hell machine for?
18:02.00Spline(see above)
18:02.14SplineI bought a quad ethernet card
18:02.19Splinethis is my firewall / vpn gateway
18:02.21Hellaenergyfirewall eh
18:02.35funroll-loopsIt's what I used.  No, I mean is Debian out of the question because you object to using Debian, not because you didn't find the right version of kernel?
18:02.36HellaenergyYa I only got on NIC in mine :(
18:02.44HellaenergyI was going to use it for that as well :)
18:03.55Splinehmm
18:04.02SplineI used the debian tftpboot images but none worked
18:04.12SplineI am not philosophically opposed to debian, but I like gentoo
18:04.32Hellaenergywhat do you like about gentoo?
18:05.03Splinesame awesome dependency handling (just works) as debian, but allows for source compilation
18:05.05Splinewhich I like to do a lot
18:05.10Splinein fact, automates it
18:05.22Splineno more remembering includes and linking
18:05.29Splinelol
18:05.31SplineNO
18:05.38Splineon my p4 thats a reason
18:05.42Splinebut not this sparc :)
18:06.00SplineI swapped in PAM on my slackware box
18:06.14Splineand every time I'd compile something new I'd have to remember where to link in PAM, where to link in OpenLDAP, etc
18:06.27Splinegentoo handles that
18:07.51funroll-loopss/gentoo handles/slack doesn't handle/
18:08.04Splineand debian doesnt either
18:08.10Splineotherwise debian and gentoo are the same for me
18:08.33Splineemerge = apt-get
18:08.55funroll-loopsErrr, what does "I swapped in PAM" mean?
18:09.12lalleHmmm
18:09.24lalleGentoo is great
18:09.51lalleAnyone knows if the startdir for an application is "user.dir" in system properties?
18:10.23Splinefunroll: more than it sounds like :)
18:10.27Splineslack doesnt support PAM
18:10.33Splineso I had to recompile a ton of stuff
18:10.34Splineto make PAM work
18:10.43funroll-loopsOh, I bet.
18:10.50Splinelalle: if you are speaking ant, it is
18:10.57Splineoh wait
18:11.00Splinestartdir means what?
18:11.23Splinefunroll: and useradd still coughs shit up every once in a while :/
18:11.57lalleSpline: And if im talking regular applications?
18:11.58lalle=)
18:12.39Splinehmm
18:12.44SplineI dont use that much
18:12.45lalle=)
18:12.50funroll-loopsSo, what doesn't Debian "handle"?  Gentoo may be the best thing since patchuli oil, but I don't understand what you're saying.
18:12.58Splinehehehe
18:13.16Splinedebian doesnt take as much pain out of custom compiling apps as gentoo
18:13.20Splineits not black and white
18:15.04funroll-loopsI'm active in Debian, so I want to fix any problems.
18:15.23funroll-loopsI just don't understand how it's not as good.
18:15.56Splinewell
18:16.02SplineI am not your super-duper power linux user
18:16.05Splinejust have it on 3 boxes
18:16.09Spline(well 4 now )
18:16.12Splinebut
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18:16.22Splineaye
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19:33.44AngusI'm building a small application using Tomcat, and every time I add a JSP the memory footprint seems to grow by a Megabyte or so. Is this normal?
19:34.03Splinewow
19:34.07SplineI wouldnt think so
19:34.34HellaenergyAngus: How big is the app?
19:35.20AngusRight now about 5 or 6 jsps, three JavaBeans, and a servlet.
19:35.21Hellaenergybtw that is not normal
19:36.10AngusYeah, I thought it seemed excessive. I don't think it's a straightforward leak, because it happens as soon as I load the page once.
19:36.52HellaenergyAre you using a Database in the App?
19:37.09AngusYes, postgresql. I'm also using JNDI and DBCP.
19:37.40Hellaenergyhum-de-dum
19:38.18HellaenergyAngus: join me over in #struts
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19:42.04Hellaenergywelcome ianni
19:42.22iannithanks.
19:42.24iannigot a question
19:42.36Hellaenergyask away
19:42.40iannimy boss wants our stuff to use catlaina's loggers to log servlet errosr
19:42.48iannihow can I access those from a JSP
19:42.53ianni(this is NOT my idea.)
19:43.06Hellaenergyianni: Look into filters
19:45.14iannisorry, but where specifically? im lookin at the catalina docs page
19:45.29Hellaenergyibot: tomcat filters
19:45.30Hellaenergy: no idea
19:46.00Hellaenergywhat version of tomcat are you using
19:46.00ianniuh yeah I understood ytou that far :)
19:46.06ianni4.1
19:46.06ianni4.0
19:46.08ianniboth
19:47.10ianniOh I see
19:47.17ianniso I'd write my own implementation of that interface
19:47.43Hellaenergyyup
19:50.29Hellaenergyianni: I would still ask around and see what others have to say on this. I have never done what you are trying to do.
19:53.59ianniwell
19:54.06ianniit's because it's the complete wrong thing to use
19:54.12iannibuit the boss says jump and I jump :(
19:54.26iannithis Logger is obviously meant for Catalina to use, and NOT webapps
19:54.33ianniand we want a loggin gpackage
19:54.47iannibut I'll have to make him realize that without telling him he's wrong
19:54.51iannibecause he's got an ego
19:55.08ianniso can someone clarify that Loggers are not or even CAN not be used from a web applciation context?
20:02.18SplineUse commons-logging
20:06.13funroll-loopsHere's a _completely offtopic_ question:
20:09.44funroll-loopsSuppose I (a USian) am going to be sent money by someone else (a non-USian).  Do I give out my bank account number?  I'm trying to help out the widow of a Nigerian official.  :P  No, really, what's a safe electronic-payment method?
20:10.36Splinecash in an envelope
20:10.45funroll-loopsCan knowledge of my account number be used against me?
20:10.49Splineno way
20:10.53Splinegive it to me
20:11.20funroll-loopsOkay, okay.  3.14159364761
20:11.49Spline;)
20:35.07iannifunroll-loops: um, dont go into a scam? :)
20:35.19ianninow, where are the tomcat developers?
20:35.28Splinebroke because all their money went to nigeria
20:35.32Splinebrb
20:36.32funroll-loopsI was serious.  I'm doing contract work for a Frenchman, and I don't know how to ask him to pay me.
20:37.05Sou|cutterhe can't send you a check?
20:37.28Sou|cutterand yes, knowledge of your account number could be used against you
20:38.12funroll-loopsI guess so.  I hear caching out-of-country checks can be hard to do.
20:39.11Sou|cutterYou should go to a bank and ask for advice there
20:40.20funroll-loopsWill do.  Thanks.
20:47.28iannipaypal?
20:48.25Hellaenergyforget they won't pay you if there are problems or crackers pal
21:08.57funroll-loopsOh, like no-one else plays the tomcat-source-tree drinking game here?
21:09.45ianniLOL
21:09.54ianniI wouldnt be looking at this if i wasnt forced to
21:09.54ianni:(
21:10.09iannihow the hell do I get a handle on loggers that I configured for t he server
21:10.19ianniLogger.Helper you thinik
21:10.19ianni?
21:11.27ianniI'll take two shots if you can find it
21:11.29ianni)
21:11.30ianni:)
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21:16.41Hellaenergyianni: check this out http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-user@jakarta.apache.org/msg01478.html
21:20.43iannino no
21:20.53ianniboss wants to use the Logger, no if's ands or buts :)
21:21.09iannior wait
21:21.12ianniwill that go to it?
21:25.15Hellaenergyianni: what are you trying to do anyways?
21:25.25ianniyeah, this uses jakarta commons
21:25.42ianniI want to, no, my boss wants to, write errors to the same error long as he's configured in server.xml
21:25.44iannithat is the probme.
21:25.47ianniproblem.
21:26.40HellaenergyThere is a GenericServlet class has a log() metho
21:27.59Hellaenergyhttp://java.sun.com/products/servlet/2.1/api/javax.servlet.GenericServlet.html
21:30.04ianniaha
21:30.13ianniand that will go to the servlet error log.
21:30.30ianniitneresting i didnt know thanks
21:31.30iannibut
21:31.32iannihow would I invoke it?
21:31.42ianniI mean new GenericSErvlet.log() doesnt make sense
21:32.31ianniany idea ?
21:32.34ianniI want a method I can call
21:32.39iannirather, he will
21:34.06funroll-loopslog(), if you extend it.  It implements Servlet, yesno?
21:35.05ianniyeah but um
21:35.23ianni<@% page language="java" %>
21:35.45ianni<5 try { ...... } catch (Throwable t) { /* log to tomcat error log file */ } %>
21:35.53iannioh, log() :P
21:35.58iannihaha
21:36.29funroll-loopsI'm a newbie here.
21:37.01ianniI don't use tomcat..
21:37.04iannibut my work does
21:38.07HellaenergyGood Luck
21:51.53HellaenergyCan anyone tell me why this does not print this string in the order specified?
21:51.56hellabot"Hellaenergy" pasted One*Two*Three*Four and Four*Three*Two*One at http://www.hellaweb.com:8888/3
21:52.25HellaenergyIt prints for the reverse *Two*Three*FourOne
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21:56.14HellaenergyHi Spline
21:56.45HellaenergyCould you look at this code and tell me why it doesn't print the reverse string properly?
21:56.56Hellaenergyhttp://www.hellaweb.com:8888/3
21:59.27Splinehey sur eone sec
22:00.26Splinenot sure about the GUI code (dont do that much)
22:00.35Splinebut the way you are breaking the String into words seems flawe
22:00.40Splinewhy not use StringTokenizer?
22:00.50SplineOr there may even be a String.split()
22:01.16HellaenergyI have to pull the words out into their own string
22:01.22HellaenergyThats how they want it
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22:04.08Splinesure
22:04.11Splineuse StringTokenizer
22:04.22Splineinstead of indexOf
22:06.27HellaenergySpline: Thanks I'll try that
22:06.58Splinen/p :)
22:07.53HellaenergySpline: What class is that in?
22:08.27Splinejava.util I htink
22:08.49Hellaenergyyup
22:09.33HellaenergySpline The string has to be seperated by *'s
22:10.22Splinesure
22:10.26SplineStringTokenizer can deal with that
22:26.33HellaenergySpline: How would i get StringTokenizer to pick out say string 3
22:26.44Splinedont remember
22:26.51Splinei can look it up but youllhave to give me ten mins
22:26.57Splineclients are paying me now :)
22:29.39Hellaenergythanks
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22:33.58nextagehello? anyone can help me installing tomcat redirector with iis5?
22:34.26Hellaenergyibot: tomcat-connectors
22:34.27i heard tomcat-connectors is at http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/
22:34.33Hellaenergycheck that out
22:34.41nextagei did
22:34.50Hellaenergyibot: mod_jk
22:34.51hmm... mod_jk is at http://www.johnturner.com/howto/apache1-tomcat404-howto.html
22:34.54nextageIs incredible complecated
22:35.06nextagecomplicated
22:35.33Hellaenergynextage: It aint easy
22:35.38ianniwhile (i-->0) tokenizer.nextToken(); return tokenizer.nextToken();
22:35.51iannior say, string[3] :)
22:35.55iannis/3/2
22:36.36nextageI said iis not apache
22:36.38Splineianni: thanks
22:37.10nextageanyone have direct experience in that?
22:37.12Hellaenergyiannai: I cant use loops :(
22:37.16ianniof course you'd have to check for hasMoreTokens
22:37.26ianniHellaenergy: what!! haha
22:37.30ianniok, then :
22:37.44ianniif (t.hasMoreTokens()) t.nextToken();
22:37.49ianniif (t.hasMoreTokens()) t.nextToken();
22:37.52HellaenergyAnd I have to use indexOf() and substring()
22:37.55iannioops, use that last ones
22:38.01iannithats lame
22:38.05Hellaenergyyup
22:38.18ianniwell just type it without loops then
22:38.19ianniheeh
22:38.23ianniah, CS classes.
22:38.27ianniif only I had Java. I do C++
22:39.10nextageThanks.....bye
22:39.19HellaenergyI have to be able to display it backwards too
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23:05.20ianni2003-02-10 17:04:09 ApplicationDispatcher[] Servlet.service() for servlet jsp th
23:05.20iannirew exception
23:05.23ianniGod I hate tomcat.
23:07.05donntomcat is pretty shit tbh! :///
23:07.19donnit won't make suns javamail implementation work!
23:08.18Splineman
23:08.24Splinewrong channel to shout that ;)
23:08.27Splinetried jetty?
23:08.39ianniwell, tomcat sucks, but at least it works these days
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23:08.43iannican't say the same for javamail :)
23:08.49donni think its probably my fualt its not working :)
23:09.00ianniprobably.
23:16.21Hellaenergylater
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23:38.00iguanyone awake? :]
23:39.54SplineIm awake
23:40.11funroll-loopsBarely.
23:41.41iguheh
23:42.31igui'm not getting my classes compiled with the 4.1.18
23:42.40iguanyone else having the same problems?
23:49.32funroll-loopsHmmm.  Should I be explicitly close()ing my java.sql.Connections ?  (I'm trying to figure out why my app takes so much memory.)
23:51.51jkkfunroll-loops: yes you must close Connections
23:51.57funroll-loopsI see that Connections are automatically closed when GC'd.
23:52.13funroll-loopsOkay.  I will force 'em anyway.
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