| 09:56:09 | bepro- | does anyone know how to modify the tomcat-users.xml and have it refresh so that you can use it to login without restarting the server? |
| 10:05:06 | webdaemon | no idea |
| 10:09:11 | bepro- | damn...guess i'll have to build my own authentication then |
| 10:09:30 | bepro- | but i think i just figured out how i will redirect the pages to the request it made...so my authentication is already built :) |
| 10:10:14 | bepro- | do most people here work on the actual tomcat project, or are they jsp/xml developers mainly? |
| 10:39:57 | webdaemon | servlet/soap for me |
| 10:52:38 | bepro- | :) i've never done soap |
| 10:52:54 | bepro- | and so far i've favoured Beans over servlets |
| 10:53:05 | webdaemon | bepro-: i don't know beans |
| 10:53:12 | bepro- | it's not very hard :) |
| 10:53:20 | bepro- | and you don't have to configure them |
| 10:53:33 | bepro- | just load em up like a class in the JSP, then call the methods |
| 10:54:04 | bepro- | how long have you been writing this stuff for? |
| 10:54:14 | webdaemon | you have to use them in jsp only ? you can't call them directly ? |
| 10:54:41 | webdaemon | i"m using tomcat for 1.5 years now |
| 10:54:43 | bepro- | well you import em... then you set their ID in the jsp and you call the id.method() |
| 10:54:49 | bepro- | wow |
| 10:54:54 | bepro- | didn't know it has been out that long |
| 10:55:01 | webdaemon | hehe |
| 10:55:03 | bepro- | i started ummm a month ago i think |
| 10:55:19 | bepro- | i'm working on the milestone 5.0.0 right now i think |
| 10:55:32 | webdaemon | tomcat is quite stable & featured now ... it was so buggy some times ago |
| 10:55:34 | bepro- | cuz i was trying to get that UserDatabase working...but couldn't get it to write...so i moved on |
| 10:55:41 | bepro- | i bet it was |
| 10:56:14 | webdaemon | http://www.labocom.com/synoptique/production/svg/basrhin.svg |
| 10:56:21 | webdaemon | if you can read svg :-) |
| 10:56:23 | bepro- | it's got alot of features now ya :) they've given it so many different ways to handle it |
| 10:57:09 | webdaemon | i'ts a realtime svg roadwork (apache/tomcat/soap/xml/xsl) long way to get it |
| 10:57:16 | bepro- | document.getElementById(...) is null or not an object... |
| 10:57:25 | bepro- | but ya i can see it |
| 10:57:36 | webdaemon | what browser/platform ? |
| 10:57:48 | bepro- | XP IE6 |
| 10:57:58 | bepro- | and it opened about 20 of those jscript errors |
| 10:58:02 | bepro- | then finally stopped |
| 10:58:07 | webdaemon | oh ... you installed the adobe plugin ? |
| 10:58:13 | bepro- | ya i did |
| 10:58:16 | webdaemon | i see |
| 10:58:24 | bepro- | it's everytime i swipe the cursor over the green sections |
| 10:58:59 | bepro- | hmmm so you click and it does what? |
| 10:59:00 | webdaemon | mmm ... it's developement release ... i had no time to test it on other plateforms than mine |
| 10:59:26 | webdaemon | you should see texts on the upper left corner when move over green |
| 10:59:38 | bepro- | no i don't cuz of the jscript error |
| 10:59:55 | webdaemon | interesting ... i'll have a look on it |
| 10:59:57 | bepro- | so like when i go to the page...it generates the picture with links inside it? |
| 11:00:14 | webdaemon | could you right click and "about svg plugin" |
| 11:00:20 | webdaemon | get the version please |
| 11:00:42 | bepro- | About Adobe SVG Viewer... Access is Denied |
| 11:00:57 | webdaemon | uh ... |
| 11:01:06 | webdaemon | strange |
| 11:01:13 | bepro- | but i can view the source |
| 11:01:18 | bepro- | of the svg |
| 11:01:44 | bepro- | never heard of a <tspan> before |
| 11:02:22 | bepro- | i'm not much of an HTML person... just a java programmer... so i'm attempting html integration now :) |
| 11:02:38 | bepro- | when i saw Tomcat, JSP i got highly interested |
| 11:02:39 | webdaemon | <tspan> is not html / it's svg |
| 11:02:44 | bepro- | ok :) |
| 11:03:07 | bepro- | i made a slight implementation of Java files into a webserver before...but nothing dynamic like tomcat does |
| 11:58:56 | webdaemon | does tomcat 4112 LE + jsdk14 enough to use SAXparser in the webapplications ? |
| 11:59:13 | webdaemon | do i require the xerces lib ? |
| 12:27:37 | webdaemon | is there someone to help me with tomcat / library dependance ? |
| 12:42:38 | webdaemon | java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: java.util.logging.Logger.logp(Ljava/util/logging/Level;Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;Ljava/lang/String;)V |
| 12:42:39 | webdaemon | at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.Jdk14Logger.log(Jdk14Logger.java:126) |
| 12:42:39 | webdaemon | at org.apache.commons.logging.impl.Jdk14Logger.debug(Jdk14Logger.java:136) |
| 12:42:39 | webdaemon | at org.apache.axis.configuration.EngineConfigurationFactoryFinder.newFactory(EngineConfigurationFactoryFinder.java:179) |
| 12:42:39 | webdaemon | at org.apache.axis.configuration.EngineConfigurationFactoryFinder.newFactory(EngineConfigurationFactoryFinder.java:195) |
| 13:34:04 | Ant_Work | is anyone around |
| 13:40:51 | JakWORK | yes |
| 13:48:52 | Ant_Work | [13:38] <Ant_Work> When ive done apt-get install tomcat4 i get this returned "sorry, but the following packages have unbmet dependencies tomcat4 depends: libtomcat4-java but it is not going to be installed |
| 13:48:53 | Ant_Work | [13:38] <Ant_Work> E: sorrry broken packages |
| 13:48:53 | Ant_Work | [13:39] <Ant_Work> is there another way to install tomcat? |
| 13:50:17 | Freix | have you java ? |
| 13:50:35 | Ant_Work | ah! |
| 13:50:47 | Ant_Work | u need to install java first then |
| 13:50:49 | Freix | in your sourcelist |
| 13:50:55 | Freix | deb ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/java/debian woody non-free |
| 13:51:02 | Ant_Work | k |
| 13:52:46 | Ant_Work | ok ive done that |
| 13:53:43 | Ant_Work | whats the package name for the java i need |
| 13:56:36 | Freix | apt-get install j2sdk1.3 |
| 13:56:43 | Freix | apt-get install tomcat4 |
| 14:02:20 | Ant_Work | thanx freix |
| 14:13:07 | Ant_Work | freix: do u know what locales i need to be generated? |
| 14:14:09 | inflex | You know, I'm sure I'm going to ask a really dumb question... but I've tried 3 different 'HOW-TO' pages, and yet still I cannot build the mod_webapp.o/so file |
| 14:14:21 | inflex | I've tried downloading jakatara-connectors |
| 14:14:24 | inflex | and the -src |
| 14:14:27 | inflex | and then using CVS |
| 14:14:58 | inflex | but there's never a "configure" file in the source dir |
| 14:15:05 | inflex | (so I can run ./configure --with-apxs |
| 14:19:24 | inflex | Anyone actually gotten the Webapp connector running ? |
| 14:19:39 | ckell | inflex: try ./support/buildconf.sh for the connector directory. You need a few things though like th e apr source |
| 14:19:48 | inflex | I have already gotten Tomcat to run btw ;-) |
| 14:20:03 | inflex | oh, thanks ckell |
| 14:20:16 | ckell | what *nix and connector are you tyruing to use? |
| 14:20:24 | Ant_Work | does anyone know what locales need to generated when uve installed "j2sdj1.3" |
| 14:20:43 | inflex | I'm on Linux kern 2.4.18, running Apache 1.3.23 |
| 14:20:54 | inflex | with the Sun SDK 1.4.1 |
| 14:21:04 | inflex | and Tomcat 4.1.12 |
| 14:21:09 | ckell | webapp connector? |
| 14:21:34 | inflex | yes |
| 14:22:00 | ckell | cd into the webapps directory and run that command |
| 14:22:08 | ckell | it should s[pit out what to do next |
| 14:22:20 | ckell | for the connector |
| 14:22:29 | inflex | doh, darn, it needs a more recent version of m4 |
| 14:22:34 | inflex | wow, thought mine was reasonably recent too |
| 14:22:50 | ckell | cd jakarta-tomcat-connectors-***-src/webapp/ |
| 14:23:17 | inflex | done that |
| 14:23:22 | inflex | (I got this from CVS btw) |
| 14:23:55 | inflex | autom4te: need GNU m4 1.4 or later: /usr/bin/m4 |
| 14:23:55 | inflex | autoheader: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 |
| 14:23:55 | inflex | at /usr/bin/autoheader line 163 |
| 14:24:03 | inflex | looks like I better go get the latest m4 |
| 14:24:15 | inflex | perhaps I dont even have it installed |
| 14:24:17 | inflex | that is possible |
| 14:24:45 | inflex | doh... no m4 |
| 14:24:53 | inflex | now waits for the config |
| 14:25:07 | inflex | Creating configure ... --- All done |
| 14:26:45 | inflex | thanks ckell, that one small vital step was missing out of all the docs that I read... perhaps I read them too fast |
| 14:27:28 | inflex | I think tommorow I'll have to go and buy another 256Mb of ram for this box |
| 14:27:36 | inflex | I somehow don't think that 64Mb will be enough |
| 14:29:02 | Ant_Work | does anyone know what locales need to be generated when uve installed "j2sdj1.3" |
| 14:29:14 | Ant_Work | for tomcat to run |
| 14:29:18 | inflex | Ant_Work: wish I could answer that for you :-( |
| 14:29:46 | Ant_Work | cos u need j2sdj1.3 for tom cat to run right ? |
| 14:29:58 | inflex | ermm..I just used j2se-1.4.1 |
| 14:30:01 | inflex | (the SDK) |
| 14:30:07 | Ant_Work | oh |
| 14:30:30 | Ant_Work | ill install that instead |
| 14:30:37 | inflex | 's biggest problem was/is getting the linking module/glue between Apache and Tomcat, which I think ckell solved for me |
| 14:30:53 | Ant_Work | if i install that will it delete the old j2sd |
| 14:53:09 | mobiGeek | morning folks! |
| 14:55:30 | mobiGeek | I've been told by some developers (running Tomcat on windoze only) that Tomcat 4.1.12 has troubles re-deploying WAR files. One individual insists that Tomcat needs to be shutdown, the 'work' directory deleted, and restarted before a new WAR file can be successfully deployed. |
| 14:56:06 | mobiGeek | Anyone else had similar issues? Does the problem exist on Linux (which is our production platform). |
| 15:02:26 | ckell | mobiGeek: are the server.xml fiel the same on both boxes. If one is set to reloadable="false" you might have issues |
| 15:13:25 | mobiGeek | ckell: morning! I suspect that the developers just hack their server.xml as they care to. I'm just now starting to do testing on my staging Linux server. So I'm trying to determine if I should manually blow away the deployed dirs or if simply updating a WAR file should be enough. |
| 15:15:52 | ckell | I fond that blowing away the work directory causes issues |
| 15:15:52 | mobiGeek | the first thing I'm trying to figure out is if TC *should* automatically detect that a WAR file is updated and re-deploy it. |
| 15:16:10 | mobiGeek | then I want to know if it *does* work. |
| 15:16:18 | ckell | mobiGeek: if the server.xml is set to do it. |
| 15:16:31 | mobiGeek | <Host name="localhost" debug="0" appBase="webapps" |
| 15:16:39 | mobiGeek | unpackWARs="true" autoDeploy="true"> |
| 15:17:08 | mobiGeek | so, is reloadable "true" by default? |
| 15:18:29 | mobiGeek | Oh, the Loader component... I don't have one of those defined in my <HOST>. |
| 15:24:01 | mobiGeek | ckell: The <Loader> component talks about checking if WEB-INF files change, but doesn't talk about whether that's in WAR files or in the already-deployed directory. Do you have experience with this? |
| 15:30:01 | ckell | mobigeek:do you have unPack war set to true? |
| 15:30:11 | ckell | if it is is should scan that |
| 15:30:14 | mobiGeek | yes. |
| 15:30:26 | mobiGeek | what should, the <Loader> ? |
| 15:30:39 | ckell | But if you are using Virtual Hosts, It really puts a load on performance |
| 15:30:48 | mobiGeek | ckell: no virtual hosts. |
| 15:30:55 | ckell | Tomcat shouuld scan for changes |
| 15:31:11 | mobiGeek | ckell: oops...at least, I don't think I am...I have a <Host>, but only for "localhost". |
| 15:31:11 | ckell | Are you using large web applications? |
| 15:31:44 | mobiGeek | ckell: no, it is quite small (5 jsp pages, two servlets w/ some JDBC access to RDBMS). |
| 15:32:13 | ckell | I think you should on scan during development, so you don't have to restart tomcat after every change, but in production ,(if you are looking for optimizing tomcat) don't scamn.. |
| 15:33:16 | mobiGeek | ckell: I guess the real question is what is the best way to re-deploy a WAR to a production box w/out bringing down Tomcat ? |
| 15:33:51 | mobiGeek | ckell: I would think that having TC scanning, say, every 5 minutes, would be quite fine. |
| 15:34:10 | mobiGeek | ckell: then I can rsync the WAR file to the production box and forget about it. |
| 15:35:03 | ckell | I thinkk when it comes to reloading in a production box it depends on how the server performs. If you don't see any performance dips don't worry about it. |
| 15:35:35 | ckell | keep it as reloadable and move the the war. |
| 15:35:59 | mobiGeek | ckell: cool, I'll monitor the TC process. |
| 15:36:10 | ckell | your devel. boxeds are window but your production boxes are linux? |
| 15:36:31 | mobiGeek | ckell: our developers work on windoze, I test on Linux and deploy on Linux. |
| 15:37:18 | mobiGeek | ckell: (I'm a code banger myself, but I've been drafted into the role of "webmaster/sysadmin" for the next few weeks/months until things get secure and stable. |
| 15:37:54 | mobiGeek | ckell: I've just not played with TC before, do mostly desktop and back-end Java coding. |
| 15:38:30 | mobiGeek | ckell: thanks for the info thus far. I have a meeting I have to bail for now. Later. |
| 16:26:16 | ibaze | hi there |
| 16:28:24 | ibaze | could someone help me with https in tomcat 4.1.12?? |
| 16:29:04 | ckell | we can ty |
| 16:29:07 | ckell | try |
| 16:31:25 | ibaze | everytime if i typed https://localhost:443 tomcat give me exception peer not authentificated. |
| 16:31:56 | ibaze | in previus tomcat version it work without exception |
| 16:33:08 | ckell | is port 443 the prot you have set in your server.xml? |
| 16:34:14 | ckell | I think you should have somethings like this: |
| 16:34:27 | ckell | <Connector acceptCount="10" scheme="https" appBase="webapps" port="443" secure="true" |
| 16:34:45 | ibaze | yes, port is ok,https work but give me this warning (not error). |
| 16:35:37 | ibaze | i worked with tomcat 4.0.xx and there it was ok. |
| 16:35:52 | ibaze | i try it under linux and windows too,but it is the same. |
| 16:37:25 | ckell | apache? or apache-ssl? |
| 16:38:29 | ibaze | standalone tomcat |
| 16:38:37 | ibaze | without apache. |
| 16:40:35 | ckell | are you ising the same server.xml file as with 4.0.x...? cus you will get errors and warnings.. |
| 16:43:01 | ibaze | i dont port server.xml from tomcat 4.0x to 4.1.12 |
| 16:43:54 | ibaze | i added my new application and everything work |
| 16:44:05 | ibaze | (except https). |
| 16:48:42 | webdaemon | mmm... don't the connector change in 4112 ? |
| 16:48:47 | ckell | coyote? |
| 16:48:56 | ibaze | yes, coyot. |
| 16:49:48 | ibaze | i dont change server.xml in connectors,service,... i just added some context |
| 16:50:05 | ckell | the docs sya Connector should look like this: |
| 16:50:07 | ibaze | and uncoomebt https connector. |
| 16:51:09 | ckell | <Connector className="org.apache.catalina.connector.http.HttpConnector" port="8443" minProcessors="5" maxProcessors="75" enableLookups="true" cceptCount="10" debug="0" scheme="https" secure="true"> |
| 16:53:36 | ibaze | in 4112 is coyote connector: |
| 16:53:41 | ibaze | <Connector className="org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteConnector" |
| 16:53:43 | ibaze | port="8443" minProcessors="5" maxProcessors="75" |
| 16:53:45 | ibaze | enableLookups="true" |
| 16:53:46 | ibaze | acceptCount="10" debug="0" scheme="https" secure="true" |
| 16:53:48 | ibaze | useURIValidationHack="false"> |
| 16:53:51 | ibaze | <Factory className="org.apache.coyote.tomcat4.CoyoteServerSocketFactory" |
| 16:53:51 | ibaze | clientAuth="false" protocol="TLS" /> |
| 16:53:52 | ibaze | </Connector> |
| 17:02:39 | ibaze | ok i must go. |
| 17:03:01 | ibaze | thanx ckell for your time, |
| 17:03:40 | ibaze | i see this problem is probably really big - hi all |
| 18:07:47 | vasquez | Hi, I moved from tomcat4.0.x to tomcat4.1.12. I have a script that removes my app from tomcat via /manage, deletes the app directory, copies the new version there and installs it with /manager again. Worked fine under 4.0, not 4.1 anymore. |
| 18:08:16 | vasquez | I have to delete the directory from the work/..../ directory and then restart tomcat |
| 18:09:44 | vasquez | The jsps are changed but not the jar file with my classes |
| 20:36:31 | Hellaenergy | YYOYOYOYOYOYO! |
| 20:36:44 | Hellaenergy | how is everyone today? |
| 20:37:07 | | just great |
| 20:37:07 | Hellaenergy | ibot: how are you? |
| 21:05:10 | RyanH | hello, anyone around to help out deploying my first webapp on Tomcat 4.1? |
| 21:07:42 | mobiGeek | RyanH: if you don't mind the blind leading the blind... :-) |
| 21:08:21 | RyanH | heh, thanks. I am trying to deploy some servlets I wrote that depend on several other libraries to a new web app |
| 21:09:09 | RyanH | I am getting a 500 ServletException with a ClassNotFoundException even though I have put my servlet code in the /WEB-INF/classes dir. |
| 21:09:31 | RyanH | I want to find out which classes it is not finding, but the exceptions aren;t telling me |
| 21:10:45 | Hellaenergy | Did you set your classpath to those classes? |
| 21:11:00 | mobiGeek | Did you keep the directory structure under classes the same as the package hierarchy? |
| 21:11:51 | mobiGeek | Also, are you checking the server log file(s) for exceptions? catalina.out should have the stack trace, I believe. |
| 21:14:18 | RyanH | Hellaenergy: No , I haven't done anything to my CLASSPATH |
| 21:14:32 | Hellaenergy | Try that |
| 21:14:44 | RyanH | mobi: the dir structure is correct for the package name in the /WEB-INF/classes/servlets dir |
| 21:14:49 | RyanH | I also tried it in the /WEB-INF/classes dir |
| 21:15:07 | RyanH | catalina.out has a copy of the error I get in my browser and nothing more |
| 21:15:08 | Hellaenergy | or is classpath only for compilation |
| 21:15:23 | RyanH | I need to add /WEB-INF/classes to my CLASSPATH?! |
| 21:15:40 | RyanH | I thought Tomcat did that part transparently |
| 21:15:49 | Hellaenergy | Just a guess |
| 21:16:56 | RyanH | woops |
| 21:17:06 | RyanH | fixed it... |
| 21:17:29 | RyanH | I had the parent dir in /WEB-INF/classes |
| 21:19:15 | Hellaenergy | so your classes where not in /WEB-INF/classes they where in /WEB-INF/classes/ParentDir? |
| 21:22:17 | mobiGeek | Argh! I just made a change to a .jsp file, recreated the WAR file, dropped it over top of the existing WAR file, told Manager to relaod the webapp, but the change to the JSP didn't show up. It does show up when I stop and start TC. |
| 21:22:40 | mobiGeek | Anyone here "knowledgeable" when it comes to reloading and autodeploy? |
| 21:25:44 | Hellaenergy | You might have to stop then restart tomcat? |
| 21:27:13 | RyanH | you might have it cached in the work dir |
| 21:27:29 | RyanH | Hella: yes thats what I had |
| 21:27:32 | RyanH | *duh* |
| 21:27:41 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 21:28:58 | mobiGeek | Hellaenergy: the whole point to "autodeploy |
| 21:29:02 | mobiGeek | oops. |
| 21:29:33 | mobiGeek | Hellaenergy: the whole point of autodeploy and reload is to allow for the dropping of a WAR file into "webapps" and having the system pick it up. |
| 21:29:48 | mobiGeek | Hellaenergy: I'd really rather not bounce my production server. |
| 21:32:40 | mobiGeek | Hellaenergy: even using the Manager application to reload the app isn't picking up the JSP changes...grrr... |
| 21:33:19 | Hellaenergy | mobiGeek: Ya I know It was just a suggestion |
| 21:33:56 | Hellaenergy | As I recall from my expierences none of that reload stuff works too well |
| 21:34:14 | mobiGeek | Hellaenergy: it appears that your experience is pretty bang-on :-( |
| 21:34:32 | Hellaenergy | don't frown |
| 21:34:35 | Hellaenergy | :) |
| 21:34:44 | mobiGeek | sometimes just bouncing the server is not enough. Sometimes I have to delete the "work" directory too. |
| 21:34:56 | Hellaenergy | hmm? |
| 21:35:43 | Hellaenergy | mobiGeek: what did you mean by bang-on anyways? |
| 21:36:18 | mobiGeek | Hellaenergy: bang-on, right-on, correct, accurate. |
| 21:36:42 | mobiGeek | "bang on target" |
| 21:37:01 | RyanH | on point, on the money, on the mark, spot on |
| 21:37:36 | mobiGeek | run spot run! |
| 21:37:39 | mobiGeek | :-) |
| 21:39:22 | RyanH | Well I poked around on google a little, but it seems like most people assume the Manager app can reload JSPs |
| 21:42:51 | Hellaenergy | mobiGeek: Man, I'm glad I asked you because I though you were dissin me :) |
| 21:48:23 | RyanH | yea bitch, your experience is bang on! Step up! |
| 21:48:25 | RyanH | ;) |
| 21:51:06 | Hellaenergy | pimp slaps RyanH with a limp !@$% |
| 21:51:13 | Hellaenergy | ok im done :) |
| 21:51:36 | RyanH | ouch |
| 21:52:07 | Hellaenergy | sorry I had to do that |
| 21:52:16 | RyanH | I suppose I can understand |
| 21:52:55 | RyanH | anyone know anything about inner classes and deploying them to Tomcat? |
| 21:53:18 | RyanH | I have a class in /WEB-INF/classes that has inner classes, but I am not seeing MyClass$InnerClass1.class files |
| 21:53:35 | RyanH | And I am getting a NoClassDefFoundException |
| 23:40:47 | find_me | nested tag libs any one ? |
| 23:52:54 | find_me | nested tag libs any one ? |
