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| 03:58.53 | ashanks | purl, google bash color ps1 |
| 03:59.23 | ashanks | hmm, there |
| 04:00.26 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.29 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.32 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.35 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.39 | swoolley | so close |
| 04:00.41 | swoolley | I'm going for second place in grimoire edits |
| 04:00.59 | swoolley | only 64 away |
| 04:02.17 | ashanks | lol |
| 04:02.27 | ashanks | is that like, maintaining "packages"? |
| 04:02.47 | swoolley | yeah |
| 04:02.54 | ashanks | or the scripts to build them or whatever |
| 04:02.59 | swoolley | the scripts to build them |
| 04:03.19 | ashanks | make $PACKAGE; |
| 04:03.21 | ashanks | do I win? |
| 04:03.22 | ashanks | :-) |
| 04:03.51 | swoolley | no |
| 04:04.09 | swoolley | we have a program called quill that just asks you questions and makes a spell for you |
| 04:04.18 | ashanks | lol, give me an example of what one looks like. |
| 04:04.30 | swoolley | quill -fmxml freshmeat xml url |
| 04:04.37 | swoolley | that creates one from the freshmeat metadata |
| 04:05.04 | swoolley | ok, an example |
| 04:05.45 | swoolley | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/sourcemage/codex/test/http/thttpd/ |
| 04:07.44 | swoolley | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/sourcemage/codex/test/net/fping/ |
| 04:07.50 | swoolley | that's a very simple one |
| 04:08.35 | ashanks | lol |
| 04:08.52 | ashanks | so you put descriptions to output in the "spell"? |
| 04:09.00 | ashanks | like, telling what it does before you install? |
| 04:09.04 | swoolley | yeah |
| 04:09.08 | swoolley | gaze what fping |
| 04:09.15 | ashanks | where's the place for license agreements? |
| 04:09.30 | swoolley | LICENSE= |
| 04:09.41 | ashanks | ahh |
| 04:09.42 | swoolley | some are missing one, but that means they are really old spells |
| 04:09.47 | swoolley | most are filled in |
| 04:09.50 | ashanks | fping looks rather simple :P |
| 04:10.37 | swoolley | it is |
| 04:12.06 | swoolley | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/sourcemage/codex/test/libs/ncurses/ |
| 04:12.09 | swoolley | complicated |
| 04:14.58 | ashanks | #_# |
| 04:15.17 | swoolley | I'm about the only one that touches that spell anymore |
| 04:15.20 | swoolley | it's too complicated |
| 04:15.35 | swoolley | mainly because ncurses is part of bash, and so it has to install it without wiping out bash |
| 04:15.59 | swoolley | and if you're changing between unicode and non-unicode builds it makes it non-trivial |
| 04:24.11 | swoolley | ashanks: any questions? |
| 04:31.18 | ashanks | hmm |
| 04:31.26 | ashanks | I had to type an essay. |
| 04:32.52 | ashanks | oh, yeah, questions. how am I able to make bash scripts run at whatever time? I know like, initd is for launching processes (on startup), but say I want to run a script that cp's my home directory to the external fw backup hard drive... every... friday at 2 AM? |
| 04:33.35 | ashanks | is that possible? |
| 04:34.36 | ashanks | swoolley: ^^ |
| 04:38.13 | ashanks | and another: how do I write stdout contents to a file? I noticed svn, if you run svnadmin dump, will just echo out a very large dump of the repository, and isn't there a way to tell it to put all of the output in a file? |
| 04:41.31 | swoolley | ok |
| 04:41.42 | swoolley | use crontab -e |
| 04:41.54 | swoolley | then use the man 5 crontab manual to figure out what to put in there |
| 04:42.02 | swoolley | fcrontab -e for fcron |
| 04:42.10 | swoolley | man cron for info |
| 04:42.26 | swoolley | echoing stdout to a file is easy |
| 04:42.32 | swoolley | script > /tmp/somefile |
| 04:42.42 | ashanks | ahh |
| 04:42.45 | swoolley | to show it both to the screen and to a file use tee |
| 04:42.49 | swoolley | script | tee /tmp/somefile |
| 04:42.51 | ashanks | ok |
| 04:44.01 | ashanks | hmm. never heard of tee. |
| 04:44.22 | ashanks | man paging it. |
| 04:45.03 | ashanks | simple enough. I don't think I'll need to use -a or -i |
| 04:45.03 | swoolley | info coreutils to read up about it |
| 04:45.15 | swoolley | script >> /tmp/somefiletoappend |
| 04:45.21 | swoolley | script | tee -a /tmp/somefiletoappend |
| 04:45.26 | swoolley | similar |
| 04:45.58 | swoolley | ignore interrupts just makes it ignore interrupting signals so that they will get propagated further down to the command that often really wants it |
| 04:46.32 | ashanks | ok |
| 04:47.36 | ashanks | and, I just saw gettext referenced in coreutils docs, is it a localizer? how does it work? |
| 04:49.17 | swoolley | gettext allows you to internationalize |
| 04:49.34 | ashanks | ahh, I see something about it on gnu's homepage |
| 04:49.36 | swoolley | it's a set of common routines that allow you to use dictionary strings to translate programs to many langauges |
| 04:49.36 | ashanks | translator |
| 04:51.08 | swoolley | only 20 more spells to edit |
| 04:51.30 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.33 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.36 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.40 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.43 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.47 | ashanks | and I haven't seen much of this, but can bash do math operations? |
| 04:51.50 | swoolley | yes |
| 04:52.04 | ashanks | standard + - / * stuff? |
| 04:52.04 | swoolley | echo $(( 5+6)) |
| 04:52.08 | swoolley | 11 |
| 04:52.27 | ashanks | oh, ok |
| 04:52.28 | ashanks | cool |
| 04:52.31 | swoolley | echo $(( 12/3)) |
| 04:52.31 | swoolley | 4 |
| 04:52.33 | ashanks | I just found my new calculator |
| 04:52.36 | swoolley | heh |
| 04:52.40 | swoolley | it only does integer math |
| 04:52.44 | ashanks | :( |
| 04:52.51 | ashanks | no floats :/ |
| 04:52.51 | swoolley | echo $(( 12/5)) |
| 04:52.54 | swoolley | 2 |
| 04:52.58 | swoolley | use bc for that |
| 04:53.26 | swoolley | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.26 | swoolley | 2.40000000000000000000 |
| 04:53.46 | swoolley | bc -l <<<'12/5' |
| 04:53.54 | swoolley | (the above is identical in bash 3) |
| 04:54.25 | ashanks | ah, neat. |
| 04:55.11 | ashanks | now I just need a tab-based shell |
| 04:55.18 | swoolley | bash will do that |
| 04:55.25 | ashanks | I've got 7 windows open :P |
| 04:55.25 | swoolley | cut -d$'\t' -f3 |
| 04:55.30 | swoolley | oh |
| 04:55.35 | swoolley | use a tabbed terminal program |
| 04:55.41 | swoolley | mrxvt, for example |
| 04:55.57 | swoolley | or gnu screen |
| 04:56.03 | swoolley | to multiples shells in one |
| 04:56.19 | swoolley | I'll make you into a unix hacker ;) |
| 04:56.39 | ashanks | LOL |
| 04:57.00 | ashanks | I heard about iTerm, any good? |
| 04:57.41 | ashanks | oh, apple only I think |
| 04:58.12 | ashanks | http://iterm.sourceforge.net/screenshot2.jpg |
| 04:59.05 | swoolley | no clue |
| 05:03.13 | ashanks | hmm |
| 05:24.58 | ashanks | bbl |
| 05:24.59 | ashanks | sleep |
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| 22:00.20 | ashanks | hello |
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| 22:47.28 | __alex__ | yo |
| 22:47.33 | __alex__ | (it's me) |
| 23:32.37 | swoolley-work | hey |
| 23:32.46 | swoolley-work | anybody here good at graphic design? |
| 23:33.03 | swoolley-work | if somebody wants to do a website layout for free, I can put a link to their website |
| 23:33.19 | swoolley-work | it will be keatingforgovernor.org |
| 23:33.54 | swoolley-work | http://www.pacificgreens.org/2005/11/21/joe-keating-joins-governors-race/ |
