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| 21:58.13 | agilman | man |
| 21:58.17 | swoolley-work | man |
| 21:58.27 | swoolley-work | want to intern still? |
| 21:59.00 | swoolley-work | if things work out ok, I could be gone in less than a month |
| 21:59.59 | agilman | as I said... I am not able to tie it to school anytime soon. |
| 22:00.15 | swoolley-work | I don't think that's needed |
| 22:00.45 | swoolley-work | if you looked into it and it's not feasable, then we can make up our own syste |
| 22:00.46 | swoolley-work | system |
| 22:01.15 | agilman | yeah, I'd love to gain experience |
| 22:01.54 | swoolley-work | what time of the week would you be available for? |
| 22:02.01 | swoolley-work | times during the week, rather |
| 22:02.37 | agilman | Mondays and Wednsdays Im avilable all day long |
| 22:02.51 | agilman | during the rest of the week, I finish school at 11 |
| 22:07.02 | swoolley-work | ok |
| 22:07.14 | swoolley-work | how many hours per week do you want to do? |
| 22:07.29 | swoolley-work | I don't want to detract from your studies |
| 22:08.30 | agilman | nuh, I am only taking 11 credits, since my java class got canceled. |
| 22:08.43 | agilman | Im not under stress really, I could take a decent load. |
| 22:09.06 | agilman | what happened to that other intern? |
| 22:09.21 | swoolley-work | he's gay |
| 22:09.25 | swoolley-work | literally |
| 22:09.47 | swoolley-work | and he has no academic experience |
| 22:10.14 | swoolley-work | he was all giddy one day because some guy called him to go on a date with him |
| 22:10.24 | swoolley-work | and he brought a condom |
| 22:10.31 | agilman | hmm, to work? |
| 22:10.34 | swoolley-work | no |
| 22:10.36 | swoolley-work | in the chat |
| 22:10.45 | agilman | ohh |
| 22:10.49 | swoolley-work | I was like, gay sex on the first date? |
| 22:10.52 | swoolley-work | he said he was entitled |
| 22:10.59 | swoolley-work | since he hasn't had any in a while |
| 22:11.07 | agilman | wow |
| 22:11.15 | agilman | thats pretty crazy |
| 22:11.31 | agilman | Im kinda scared that your expectations are really high :) |
| 22:11.36 | swoolley-work | haha |
| 22:11.38 | swoolley-work | nah |
| 22:11.50 | swoolley-work | what expectations? |
| 22:12.04 | agilman | well, 'no academic experience' |
| 22:12.09 | swoolley-work | I tried to meet the gay guy, but he never showed |
| 22:12.17 | swoolley-work | as in never made a solid appointment |
| 22:12.19 | swoolley-work | and he's unemployed |
| 22:12.23 | swoolley-work | so I figured he's a loafer |
| 22:12.26 | agilman | ohh I see |
| 22:12.32 | agilman | yeah, I wouldn't flake out like that. |
| 22:12.42 | swoolley-work | true |
| 22:12.57 | swoolley-work | I was like, hey if you do well, you might even get my job |
| 22:13.18 | agilman | hmmm, was his name Mike ? |
| 22:14.16 | swoolley-work | chris |
| 22:14.36 | swoolley-work | "cms" is his nick |
| 22:15.11 | agilman | ahh, I had a gay guy in highschool, was kinda a computer geek wannabe |
| 22:15.27 | swoolley-work | you had a gay guy? |
| 22:15.30 | swoolley-work | you had him? |
| 22:15.32 | swoolley-work | in bed? |
| 22:15.34 | agilman | no, no |
| 22:15.42 | agilman | he was a classmate |
| 22:15.44 | swoolley-work | ;) |
| 22:15.58 | agilman | he was pretty good with web design actually, and flash |
| 22:15.58 | swoolley-work | well, we can try mondays and wednesdays |
| 22:16.06 | swoolley-work | gay guys are good designers |
| 22:16.19 | agilman | he works at Circuit City now, I saw him there one time. |
| 22:16.47 | agilman | http://parkrosehighschool.com/ |
| 22:17.02 | swoolley-work | we can do 8:30 - 5:00 M and W |
| 22:17.27 | agilman | sounds good |
| 22:17.58 | swoolley-work | they might even be able to do some form of payment |
| 22:18.07 | swoolley-work | a stipend of sorts |
| 22:18.56 | swoolley-work | have you built computers before? |
| 22:19.02 | agilman | Im agreeing to doing it for free |
| 22:19.24 | agilman | I've taken computers apart and put them together |
| 22:19.31 | swoolley-work | I'm thinking maybe you can get a job here full time when I leave if they like you. |
| 22:19.44 | swoolley-work | all you really need to be able to do is track shit in excel spreadsheets |
| 22:19.54 | swoolley-work | and be somewhat mechanical |
| 22:20.05 | swoolley-work | and maybe if you're feeling like it, do some scripting of common tasks |
| 22:20.29 | agilman | hmm, we'll have to see |
| 22:20.34 | swoolley-work | yeah |
| 22:20.38 | swoolley-work | it will be clear if you want to do it |
| 22:20.48 | swoolley-work | you saw the server room, right? |
| 22:20.52 | agilman | yeah |
| 22:21.03 | swoolley-work | most of those computers haven't been rebooted in half a year |
| 22:21.08 | agilman | how old is that server? |
| 22:21.15 | swoolley-work | 1999 |
| 22:21.45 | swoolley-work | the server under the monitor was from 1996, the one to the right, from 1995. |
| 22:21.58 | swoolley-work | the hp netservers |
| 22:22.02 | swoolley-work | so ten years old |
| 22:22.20 | agilman | wow, thats pretty old |
| 22:22.28 | swoolley-work | they pretty much run themselves |
| 22:22.37 | swoolley-work | I'm waiting for them to die |
| 22:22.57 | agilman | oh boy, oh boy, Im a big excited :) |
| 22:23.08 | agilman | t* |
| 22:23.25 | swoolley-work | about what? |
| 22:25.35 | agilman | about doing this internship |
| 22:25.58 | agilman | it will be cool to put that on a resume |
| 22:27.51 | agilman | do you run anything like deep freeze on the client machines? |
| 22:28.38 | swoolley-work | nope |
| 22:28.55 | swoolley-work | the client machines are all a hodgepodge |
| 22:33.25 | agilman | so you update all the client machines manually? |
| 22:33.33 | agilman | and fix viruses and stuff... ? |
| 22:56.46 | swoolley-work | agilman: haven't had a virus problem in a year |
| 22:57.04 | swoolley-work | egress filtering pretty much ended that problem |
| 22:57.17 | agilman | hmm |
| 22:57.21 | agilman | is that like a sandbox ? |
| 22:57.32 | swoolley-work | on a firewall there's ingress and egress |
| 22:57.36 | swoolley-work | ingress is from the internet to the lan |
| 22:57.42 | swoolley-work | egress is from the lan to the internet |
| 22:57.52 | swoolley-work | we block almost all ports from the lan to the internet |
| 22:58.03 | swoolley-work | makes it difficult for a virus to propagate |
| 22:58.11 | agilman | ohh, I see |
| 22:58.42 | swoolley-work | proxy server for web, the only port that's full open is 443, but I'm considering dropping that down to a few selected sites |
| 22:59.37 | swoolley-work | you'll learn how I handle firewall rules, all the programs used, and what they are for, and how we update them |
| 23:01.57 | swoolley-work | I'll show you how even the phone system works |
| 23:02.03 | swoolley-work | it's unix-based too |
| 23:08.32 | swoolley-work | agilman: so should I expect you here at 8:30 wednesday? |
| 23:13.11 | agilman | yeah, I'll be there |
| 23:13.30 | swoolley-work | agilman: ok, I'll need to find a place for you to sit |
| 23:14.09 | swoolley-work | agilman: we used to have space, and then we had an extern for some business school show up |
| 23:14.21 | swoolley-work | so I might stuff you in the conference room/library |
| 23:15.13 | agilman | alright |
| 23:15.37 | swoolley-work | we'd need some specific projects for you to do, I think |
| 23:17.36 | swoolley-work | maybe you can issue everybody new passwords |
| 23:17.38 | swoolley-work | ;) |
| 23:18.20 | swoolley-work | maybe you can go through and inventory all the hardware and software |
| 23:18.57 | swoolley-work | to be honest, I don't have too much to do |
| 23:19.07 | agilman | awesome ;) |
| 23:19.45 | agilman | you could just tutor me, and make sure I look very productive. |
| 23:19.55 | swoolley-work | I have a list of like 40 things to do, but most of it's not something I can throw stuff at people with |
| 23:21.45 | agilman | maybe I could just spy on coworkers and make sure they dont surt through porn |
| 23:22.21 | swoolley-work | sure |
| 23:22.27 | swoolley-work | there are a few I want you to keep track of |
| 23:22.34 | swoolley-work | they net send each other messages |
| 23:23.07 | swoolley-work | I can show you how to eavesdrop on a switched ethernet network. |
| 23:24.09 | swoolley-work | brb, break |
| 23:24.18 | agilman | k |
| 23:24.43 | agilman | like packet sniffing ? |
| 23:36.09 | swoolley-work | yeah, packet sniffing |
| 23:36.45 | agilman | cool, I always wanted to learn more about that. |
| 23:37.05 | agilman | I wanted to write a program to cheat an HTML based game... |
| 23:37.29 | agilman | so I did some packet sniffing to try to decipher what to send |
| 23:38.17 | swoolley-work | we'd be doing fancy sniffing, active sniffing |
| 23:38.26 | swoolley-work | where we inject our mac address for the ip |
| 23:38.40 | swoolley-work | and then act as a third party between the two systems |
| 23:39.27 | swoolley-work | on thursday I'll be doing a second round of interviews at this internet startup for sysadmin |
| 23:39.31 | agilman | oh wow, awesome |
| 23:39.46 | agilman | yeah, for the SE company ? |
| 23:41.27 | swoolley-work | yeah |
| 23:42.41 | swoolley-work | agilman: work has no clue about that, so you have to be silent about it |
| 23:43.05 | agilman | sure, no problem. |
| 23:43.25 | agilman | brb, food |
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