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| 01:29.23 | agilman | WOW, I downloaded wing IDE |
| 01:29.27 | agilman | and got a crack for it |
| 01:29.31 | agilman | its incredible! |
| 01:29.43 | agilman | if you guys do python, its a must |
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| 04:36.21 | swoolley | agilman: WING? |
| 04:36.27 | swoolley | crack? |
| 05:18.44 | agilman | yep :) |
| 05:19.22 | agilman | http://wingware.com/ |
| 05:23.27 | agilman | I got the crack for version 2.0.3 |
| 05:23.46 | agilman | but it might work on 2.0.4 too |
| 05:28.03 | swoolley | free software is better |
| 05:33.02 | agilman | no its not |
| 05:33.07 | agilman | I tried the eric program |
| 05:33.10 | agilman | and its total shit |
| 05:33.21 | swoolley | why are you using the eric program? |
| 05:33.29 | swoolley | why are you using _any_ IDE? |
| 05:33.46 | swoolley | open one terminal |
| 05:33.48 | swoolley | open another |
| 05:33.54 | swoolley | in one terminal run/compile |
| 05:33.55 | agilman | because it has awesome fetures. |
| 05:33.58 | swoolley | in another, run an editor |
| 05:34.02 | swoolley | like what? |
| 05:34.33 | agilman | like the function documentation thing on the side |
| 05:34.39 | swoolley | third terminal |
| 05:34.49 | agilman | I dont have to run function.function.__doc__ everytime |
| 05:35.15 | agilman | and I can collapse functions |
| 05:35.19 | swoolley | and you can't do that with a bash alias? |
| 05:35.20 | agilman | like minimize them... |
| 05:35.37 | agilman | dude, do not debate me! |
| 05:35.37 | swoolley | why do you need to minimize them, just run it through a preprocessor |
| 05:35.45 | agilman | this is a lot easier |
| 05:35.54 | swoolley | it's not! |
| 05:36.06 | agilman | plus, it is (free) :) |
| 05:36.12 | swoolley | it's not |
| 05:36.28 | agilman | I didn't pay for it |
| 05:36.37 | swoolley | it's not free |
| 05:36.50 | swoolley | you have the cost that you violated copyright |
| 05:37.01 | swoolley | let's say you become a real programmer |
| 05:37.05 | swoolley | and you use wing |
| 05:37.10 | swoolley | now you have to pay for it |
| 05:37.27 | agilman | its only 35$ for personal lisence, and 130$ for professional |
| 05:37.40 | agilman | I was considring buying the personal |
| 05:37.40 | swoolley | now you have to pay for it |
| 05:38.00 | swoolley | give me the 35 bucks and I'll write code to do what it does |
| 05:38.17 | swoolley | use screen |
| 05:38.18 | agilman | plus it has really nice indentation and coloring |
| 05:38.23 | swoolley | use vi |
| 05:38.27 | swoolley | vim has coloring |
| 05:38.30 | swoolley | syntax hilighting |
| 05:38.33 | swoolley | even nano does |
| 05:38.58 | swoolley | in any case, why do you need syntax hilighting? |
| 05:39.13 | agilman | for user friendliness |
| 05:39.21 | agilman | what'cha writing about? |
| 05:39.30 | swoolley | wth, you are the user, and you need syntax hilighting? |
| 05:39.38 | swoolley | how dumb ides are |
| 05:40.11 | agilman | plus if I use multiple files, they are just tabed |
| 05:40.21 | agilman | instead of having multiple terminals |
| 05:40.30 | swoolley | it's faster to use gnu screen |
| 05:40.42 | swoolley | ctrl-a 1 ctrl-a 2, etc |
| 05:41.07 | swoolley | you're living in a gui world |
| 05:41.21 | swoolley | live in a cli world |
| 05:42.07 | agilman | :( but its so friendly |
| 05:42.56 | agilman | it has tons of fetures I dont know about |
| 05:43.29 | agilman | and it tells me if I have wrong syntax before I run it |
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| 06:31.22 | agilman | ohh man, Im listening to Opeth in my headphones... and I let out this massive fart |
| 06:31.27 | agilman | and I thought nobody heard me |
| 06:31.39 | agilman | wrong, my mom heard me all the way in the kitchen |
| 06:31.51 | agilman | (a proud moment) |
| 06:37.46 | ashanks | I'm using headphones as well. |
| 06:38.03 | ashanks | It's just, when I fart, I blame the dog. :-) |
| 06:38.40 | agilman | ohh, I take full responsibility... and credit for this massice fart |
| 06:44.09 | ashanks | heh. |
| 06:44.14 | ashanks | Hours of Wealth? |
| 06:45.27 | agilman | want me to send you some Opeth? |
| 06:45.45 | agilman | they are soft and melodic |
| 06:45.56 | ashanks | mm, do they have an itunes store? |
| 06:46.05 | agilman | hell if I know |
| 06:46.12 | ashanks | yup :) |
| 06:46.15 | agilman | they are avaible on some other p2p netowrks tho :) |
| 06:46.31 | agilman | eww |
| 06:46.42 | ashanks | "A Fair Judgement"? |
| 06:46.50 | agilman | yeah, thats one of their songs |
| 06:46.58 | ashanks | it's piano... |
| 06:47.00 | agilman | hmm, from Damnation I think |
| 06:47.14 | ashanks | oh, this sounds like In Flames |
| 06:47.19 | ashanks | April Ethereal |
| 06:47.40 | ashanks | a bunch of caveman like heavy metal noises 8-) |
| 06:48.07 | agilman | are the files on itunes .mp3s? |
| 06:48.47 | agilman | ashanks, does your IRC client have DCC options? |
| 06:48.56 | ashanks | .mp4s |
| 06:49.00 | ashanks | better quality |
| 06:49.23 | ashanks | And I don't think DCC works on this client, last time I checked it was beta supported or halfway broken. |
| 06:50.43 | agilman | :( |
| 06:50.49 | ashanks | I hit "Accept". A dialog popped up. |
| 06:50.55 | agilman | ohh |
| 06:51.08 | ashanks | Is it still going? |
| 06:51.10 | agilman | why dont you use gaim or xchat ? |
| 06:51.20 | agilman | it says that you rejected |
| 06:51.23 | ashanks | xchat sucks, at least for a mac application. |
| 06:52.00 | ashanks | No, I hit accept, then it asked me where I wanted to save it, I chose "Desktop" then hit ok. |
| 06:52.12 | agilman | its cool |
| 06:52.22 | agilman | I'll use yousendit.com |
| 06:52.40 | ashanks | and gaim, I can't use, at least not without using x11 :s |
| 06:53.16 | agilman | why dont you... ? |
| 06:53.34 | agilman | there is a nerd in my linux class, wearing linux shirts and shit |
| 06:53.48 | agilman | and he doesn't start x |
| 06:54.04 | agilman | and half of the time he is either falling behind or getting lost in his stuff |
| 06:54.09 | ashanks | "in my linux class" |
| 06:54.18 | ashanks | they have classes specifically for linux people?! |
| 06:54.33 | agilman | yeah man, in college they have cherry spitting classes... |
| 06:54.56 | agilman | as long as you have like 15 people who are willing to pay 300+ $ for tuition |
| 06:55.08 | agilman | they'll find a professor |
| 06:55.21 | agilman | well, I made that up, but its nearly true |
| 06:55.48 | agilman | they even have windows classes |
| 06:56.11 | ashanks | that's rediculuos |
| 06:56.16 | ashanks | what college is this? |
| 06:56.23 | agilman | any college |
| 06:56.55 | ashanks | maybe you could start a rock 'n roll class? |
| 06:57.24 | agilman | hmm, I was talking to my friend actually |
| 06:57.35 | agilman | I could probably teach a "p2p software" class ;) |
| 06:58.00 | agilman | I took a guitar class in college |
| 06:58.11 | agilman | got 1 college credit for doing nothing |
| 06:58.26 | agilman | ashanks: http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3NOMLZBU3HSTV0OWWK3VOZ3U1K |
| 06:58.50 | ashanks | ok |
| 06:59.35 | ashanks | brb - gotta go fix an sqlite db |
| 09:05.42 | darthpwnt | SLEEP |
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