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00:31.07Mojo_JojoI think Im gonna register for a Unix/linux class at MHCC
00:31.18Mojo_Jojo3 easy credits
00:31.47Mojo_Jojoor should I attempt novell system managment class ? Hmm
00:34.12Mojo_Jojoman, it sucks tho that there are no girls in any of these classes.
00:34.27swoolleyyep
00:34.37Mojo_Jojoits like... I feel like its not a co-ed school
00:35.10Mojo_Jojooh well, I am taking 12 credits already, I think I can go for 15.
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01:05.38Mojo_Joj1asshole, disconnect!
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01:22.56Master-YodaAHH!
01:22.59Master-YodaA DOOOGY!
01:23.03ashankswtf
01:23.06Master-Yoda:P
01:23.14ashanksskype
01:23.17Master-Yodashh
01:23.19ashanksoh
01:23.20Master-Yodadont tell the hole world.
01:23.20ashanksyeah
01:23.21Master-Yoda:P
01:55.54ashanksthemaximus: get skype
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02:01.12RyanFw00t
02:01.24RyanFjust got back from bball game
02:01.33RyanFi have THREE 3 pointers
02:01.38RyanFand a FT
02:01.40RyanFwhich =
02:01.42RyanF10 points
02:06.49RyanFbtw, hi
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02:08.23kryptechyo dawgz
02:09.05kryptechone of our top band players quit abruptly
02:09.32kryptechashanks you there
02:11.13RyanF:0
02:11.22RyanFkryptech? what do you play? :P
02:12.28kryptechnot realluy
02:12.40kryptechbut my friend made the dallas symphony
02:12.41ashanksI'm here
02:13.40kryptechwhat you working on other than fellow engine
02:16.51RyanFkryptech: you dont play an instrument?
02:18.41kryptechdrums
02:18.45RyanFcool :)
02:18.49RyanFi play guitar
02:19.11kryptechOUCH!!
02:19.19RyanF??
02:19.32kryptechI put a rubber band around a pen cap to see how far I could strech it before it flew off. it hit me
02:19.43RyanFLOL
02:20.04RyanFonce my uncle shot me with 5 rubber bands tied together :P
02:20.37kryptechonce my dad shot me with a gun
02:20.44kryptech;-)
02:20.50RyanF...
02:20.52RyanFlol
02:21.05RyanFone time, i shot myself in the head
02:21.19kryptechwow...
02:21.39RyanFbut... i'm j/k :P
02:21.58kryptechhere... lemme try, this will be fun....
02:22.19kryptech<PROTECTED>
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02:26.04RyanFashanks: WTF?!
02:26.16fluZ0ywhat ashanks?
02:26.45fluZ0yhow do I get into a remote box?
02:27.14fluZ0ysome guys at school said you could do it with some software
02:28.02fluZ0yanyone here?
02:28.20swoolleyssh
02:28.25swoolleygoogle -> download putty
02:28.25RyanFya
02:28.43swoolleynot sure what you mean by "get into a remote box"
02:28.54fluZ0ythanks, my friend is gonna hate me for this
02:29.51fluZ0yalso, what can you do with somones ip number thing
02:31.47fluZ0y?
02:32.03ashanksswoolley: got skype?
02:32.12fluZ0yskype?
02:34.24swoolleyashanks: no
02:34.35fluZ0yI heard slashdot was awsome
02:34.52RyanFashanks: invite me
02:34.57RyanFSLASHDOT SUCKS
02:35.05fluZ0yit does?
02:35.13RyanFmmhmmm
02:35.18fluZ0yI heard it taught you how to hack in stuff
02:35.23RyanFlol
02:35.56fluZ0ywhats so funny?
02:36.02swoolleylol
02:36.07swoolleyhe's taking you guys for a ride
02:36.33KryptechI sure as hell am
02:36.43swoolley19:24 -!- fluZ0y [kryptech@12.147.148.94] has joined #tfp
02:36.47swoolleyyou forgot to change something
02:36.59KryptechI didnt want you guys not to know
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02:37.05swoolleyheh
02:37.11KryptechI thought it was funny
02:37.41Kryptechbut why the hell you would tell anything to a kid who could be using windows is beyond me
02:38.19Kryptechswoolley: what did you major in?
02:38.29Kryptechand how did you learn to code so well
02:40.32KryptechI bet if I changed my nick to fluZ0y you would answer me...
02:43.26KryptechI only see a chick or dude option, what will the 'whore's do?
02:43.29swoolleyKryptech: computer science
02:43.33swoolleyKryptech: self-taught
02:43.50Kryptechwhen u start?
02:44.09Kryptechprogramming I mean
02:50.49Kryptechhmm... there are chicks who want my hot bod
02:50.53Kryptechin my area too
02:51.03Kryptech;-)
02:51.35swoolley7
02:52.07Kryptechwell, shit, I'm screwed huh
02:52.14KryptechI started when I was like 11
02:52.20swoolleyyep
02:52.23swoolleyyou're fucked
02:52.31Kryptechhahahaha
02:52.39Kryptech(nice joke, I rule all)
02:53.19Kryptechso, what did you code when you were a teen
02:56.18swoolleyVB
02:56.23swoolleyhypercard
02:56.27swoolleyapplesoft basic
02:56.47Kryptechsorry, I mean, like apps
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03:25.17Tryblitheroarrrr
03:25.46Kryptechseikai no senki III
03:25.50Tryblitheomg
03:25.59Tryblithekryptech stop watching hentai
03:26.13Kryptechthey dont even have sex
03:26.15Kryptech*that much
03:26.20Kryptech;-)
03:26.48Kryptechjust kidding
03:26.53KryptechI dont think they do yt
03:26.54Kryptech*uet
03:26.56Kryptech*yet
03:27.41Tryblitheif($Kryptech  instanceof  hentai) echo 'yes';
03:27.43Tryblitheechos yes!
03:28.02Tryblithe:|
03:28.05Tryblithe:-|
03:28.09Tryblithe:-O
03:28.11Tryblithe=-o
03:28.11Kryptechwtf language is that in?
03:28.14Tryblithephp
03:28.21Kryptechreally?
03:28.23Tryblithesurprsigly it actually works
03:28.23Tryblitheya
03:28.34Tryblitheu eblong to the hentai class
03:28.39TryblitheXD
03:28.53Tryblithekryptech is a perv
03:28.53Tryblithe:S
03:28.56Tryblithe:=S
03:28.58Tryblithe:-S
03:29.01Tryblitheperv alert
03:29.20swoolleywhat language is this:
03:29.28swoolleyi++
03:29.36swoolleyquick, which one is it?
03:29.56swoolley;)
03:30.01Tryblithejava
03:30.01Tryblithe?
03:30.12Tryblithebut u need a ;
03:30.17Tryblithelol
03:30.21Tryblithecache sucks
03:30.26Tryblithe=P
03:30.29swoolleyyou don't need ; in java
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03:30.41Kryptechswoolley: thats C, C did it first they should sue sun ;-)
03:30.42Tryblitheswoolley: when does that happen?
03:30.44swoolleyonly if you have more than one line
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03:31.00Tryblitheoh
03:31.09Kryptechso swoolley, what programs did you work on when young?
03:31.18swoolleytic tac toe game
03:31.21Tryblithewell it works for any lang that doesn't have $ for vars (or dont need) and oens that have ++
03:31.34swoolleyI had an unbeatable tic tac toe game at one point
03:31.36Kryptechswoolley: console?
03:31.41Tryblithekrtypech dont tel ume u made the "banner of the stars" game
03:31.46swoolleyno, different flavors of basic
03:31.59KryptechI mean but console based
03:32.15KryptechTryblithe: what? hell no? Banner of the stars III
03:32.20swoolleybasic is mostly console based
03:32.21Kryptechnah, I dont do games
03:32.29swoolleyvisual basic isn't
03:32.36swoolleybut that's why they call it visual
03:32.44Kryptechyou code C now?
03:32.44Tryblithekrtypech,  who knows what u wil doe :S
03:32.52swoolleyI code C when I have to
03:32.57swoolleylike debugging a program that's not working
03:33.01Kryptechwhat otherwise
03:33.28swoolleysmall programs to test how a function works
03:33.43KryptechI mean like, python, perl, smalltalk
03:34.02swoolleyit's easier to code a short C program to list MAXPATHLEN for your distro than to get it from perl.
03:34.26swoolleyof course you can use POSIX, but that will increase the memory footprint of your program substantially
03:35.08swoolleyPOSIX is the name of a perl module that will import posix definitions
03:35.44Kryptechyeah, I need to download a C runtime evaluator (like interactive shell)
03:35.50swoolleyuhh
03:35.58swoolleynot quite doable
03:36.05swoolleyit's not built that way
03:36.05KryptechI've heard of it
03:36.14KryptechI found a site for one
03:36.18swoolleythere's csh, but that's not what you want
03:37.04Kryptechyeah, but I swear I've heard of one from people talking in ##c
03:37.07KryptechI saw the site
03:37.20swoolleyit will take inline assembly?
03:37.42swoolleyit will take linking options when invoked?
03:37.56swoolleyhow do you handle header files?
03:38.52Kryptechlisten, dont go on a 'I'm god and declare it cannot exist' rampage here. I'm just a stupid kid, maybe it was all a dream
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04:02.40ashankshey
04:21.06Tryblithebye
04:21.06TryblitheXD
04:21.08Tryblithehey shanks
04:31.58TryblitheASHANKS
04:32.00Tryblithe=_=
04:34.02ashankswhat
04:44.44ashanksOK, swoolley, I have a question for you on the legalities of the GPL.
04:47.06ashanksI wrote some code for an open source - GPL'ed project, a couple hundred lines, committed it to an SVN, then the project manager (the leader of it all), now says it belongs to the project soley, changed 4 lines (one of them was just a stupid # comment).. and claims he, himself wrote all the code and I had nothing to do with it.
04:47.13ashanksIs that legally acceptable?
04:48.19ashanksHaha, and now they just threatened me that either I leave or the project's members will "take out my whole IP range".
04:55.59Tryblithe-__
04:56.19Tryblithe=+="
04:56.29Tryblithewhat kinda crappy project is that?
04:56.36Tryblithethat's why you only contribute to lazy
04:56.41Tryblithewhere no code exists to belong with XD
04:56.52Tryblithe*begin
05:18.20swoolleyashanks: it's not legal
05:19.09swoolleyashanks: who are they?
05:19.13swoolleyashanks: what project is it?
05:19.23swoolleyashanks: do you mind if I tell them that I'm representing you in this matter?
05:21.07ashanksswoolley: #hPanel . nick125 is the project manager. :S
05:21.34ashanksswoolley: now they're "interviewing" me on skype asking if it was true that I threatened to sue them, just for an audio copy
05:23.04swoolleylol
05:23.12swoolleyI have a phone recorder
05:23.21swoolleyyou might look into seeing if phone recording is legal
05:23.30swoolleyin their state
05:23.33ashanks:)
05:24.19ashankswell, I could hear his mom in the background, and he asked me "So ashanks, did you threaten to sue us, yes or no?" I said yes once, they said "We think you did multiple times." Then I said "Goodbye." and hungup quickly ;)
05:27.48ashanksgo swoolley
05:29.30Gokee2ashanks, nick125 took the code you wrote for him?
05:30.18ashanksGokee2: claiming I didn't write it, yes.
05:30.40Gokee2hmmmm
05:30.53Gokee2I see
05:39.35swoolleyashanks: did you see what I wrote, "lol, this is interesting"
05:40.13ashanks:)
05:47.40Gokee2ashanks, Why did you give them your code and then try and take it back?
05:48.10ashanksGokee2: when they told me it was nick125's code, which it wasn't, I told them I'd quit if they kept saying that.
05:48.22Gokee2O I see
05:48.27ashanksswoolley: it don't matter. another OSS project of nick125's that will fail measily in a week.
05:49.37swoolleylol
05:49.40swoolleythey banned me too
05:49.49swoolleybut not before I pointed out another flaw in their gpl knowledge
05:50.08ashankswe could sue and become millionaires, but who gives a shit... they're scum who think they rule the world :)
05:50.54ashanksswoolley: and like I said, you could create a hosting panel in less than a day probably better then they could an entire project's lifetime.
05:53.51Gokee2ashanks, Hey can you do a notice to the chan?
05:54.01ashanks<PROTECTED>
05:54.10Gokee2I have always wonderd if you could notice a chan you were not in
05:54.13ashankswhat do you want noticed?
05:54.19ashanksIt depends on +n is on or not
05:54.29ashanks+n means no outside messages
05:54.30Gokee2notice #hPanel I mean
05:54.40ashankstell them what?
05:54.47Gokee2I don`t know
05:54.53Gokee2hi or something
05:54.54ashanksdid it show up there?
05:55.20Gokee2nope
05:56.59ashanksswoolley: "I am no longer a dev for hPanel, or affiliated with them in any way. You babies may use my code for whatever you want, but I personally think it's pretty crummy. I will not be committing any code to hPanel ever again, nor will I sue (which means I won't take legal action of any sort)."
05:58.07swoolleyashanks: that's not a valid contract either
05:58.13swoolleyashanks: without consideration, it's not binding
05:58.15ashanksso what :)
05:58.15swoolleyyou can still sue him
05:58.32ashanksThe project's manager comments to that:
05:58.34ashanks"whatever
05:58.34ashanks"
05:58.41swoolleywho is the manager?
05:58.46ashanksnick125.
05:58.49swoolleylol
05:59.00ashanksThe php lead (Master-Yoda, who is nowhere near a master) says:
05:59.05ashanks"nite looser.
05:59.09ashanksbtw, get a brain.
05:59.10ashanks"
05:59.13ashanks:)
05:59.28ashanksyeah, I'm the loser who was stealing code from them ;-)
05:59.42ashanksoh, nick says one more thing:
05:59.46ashanks"thanks"
05:59.52ashanksAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
06:01.11ashanksAt least he steals my code then tells me thanks, that's what counts, right swoolley? ;-)
06:02.26swoolleyI'd like to report a security vulnerability to them
06:02.36ashanksAnd what is that? :)
06:02.46swoolleytell them to let me back into the room first
06:03.03swoolleyseriously it only took me one minute to find
06:03.11swoolleythere's only one minute of coding reading to read all their code
06:03.47ashanksyeah, when he says it's me who exploited it, tell him "nono, your code, remember"
06:04.07swoolleyok
06:04.20ashanksjust PM him I guess?
06:04.32ashanksI said you had an exploit, "the one in his head?"
06:05.11ashanks01:03 <ashanks> Let swoolley back in, he has a security exploit to find.
06:05.12ashanks01:03 <ashanks> He found one, wants to report it
06:05.12ashanks01:03 <nick125> the one in his head?
06:05.12ashanks01:04 <ashanks> No dude. Let him in, or your system could be hacked in the future. No joke.
06:05.15ashanks01:04 <nick125> what system?
06:05.27ashanksHAHAHA
06:05.56swoolleythere are multiple vulnerabilities
06:07.29ashanksswoolley: he pasted that conversation, transgress handed his IP and told nick to give it to you and have fun (they thought system = computer, not their code, err, my code)
06:07.50ashanks"or else your system could be hacked" ^^ above
06:07.55ashankswas talking about hpanel, lol.
06:08.00swoolleyashanks: let them know it's hpanel
06:08.06ashanksliz4rd said he gonna take out swoolley net clock
06:08.09ashanks* bloc
06:08.23ashanks^^ pankey said that
06:08.25ashanks01:06 <nick125> and where is this security hole
06:08.25ashanks01:06 <ashanks> swoolley knows.
06:08.25ashanks01:06 <ashanks> he told me that much.
06:08.25ashanks01:08 <nick125> tell him to pm me with the bug.
06:09.37swoolleyI told him my conditions
06:09.42swoolleylet me back in the room
06:09.50swoolleywith voice
06:10.22ashanksswoolley: is it in my code, or the "daemon" code?
06:10.22swoolleyI just found another vulnerability
06:10.30swoolleyI'm looking at the SVN
06:10.37ashanksI wrote the PHP stuff, SOME (lizard wrote some others)...
06:10.44ashankserr, master yoda I mean
06:10.48ashankshe wrote shitcode
06:10.59ashankslike login and register.php
06:11.25ashanks<nick125> hes got 5 mins
06:11.28ashanksswoolley: ^
06:15.36swoolley23:14 < swoolley> so, how is everybody?
06:15.36swoolley23:14 <@nick125> just say what you were coming for.
06:15.36swoolley23:14 < swoolley> you have a number of sql injection vulnerabilities
06:15.36swoolley23:14 < swoolley> do you know where and how?
06:15.36swoolley23:15 <@nick125> go ahead, show me
06:15.38swoolley23:15 < swoolley> you're not sanitizing any of the inputs on your forms
06:15.40swoolley23:15 < swoolley> and you're putting them directly into the SQL
06:15.43swoolley23:15 < swoolley> _any_ form
06:15.45swoolley23:15 < swoolley> register, for example
06:15.48swoolley23:16 <@nick125> uhh...thats planned to be rewritten for security and such
06:15.50swoolley23:16 < swoolley> uhh, then why is it public?
06:16.36ashanksswoolley: "Master-Yoda", the "PHP master" does not know what SQL injection means.
06:17.35ashanksswoolley: he also thought that using a form of templating system is dumb.
06:17.58ashanksswoolley: and he doesn't understand why such things like PEAR::DB exist :-)
06:19.12ashanksswoolley: I knew they were idiots from this point:
06:19.14ashankshttp://hpanel.org/svn/hpanel/webgui/config.php
06:20.03ashanksbad coding practices.
06:20.11swoolleyyes
06:20.25ashanks@mysql_connect("$_CON[host]","$_CON[user]","$_CON[pass]");
06:20.43ashanksWTF, mysql_connect($con['host'], ...);
06:20.57ashanksno need to escape the vars with surrounding quotes
06:21.04ashanksand $_ is reserved in PHP.
06:21.20ashanksand should use a DB abstraction class
06:22.00ashanksand shouldn't use @... rather, if ($db->error()) { die($db->getErrorMsg()) }
06:22.23ashanksand should NOT store their mysql password publicly accessable in an SVN.
06:23.28ashanksand why would you connect to the database in the same file that is supposed to be for configuration values only....
06:23.36ashanksanyway
06:23.38ashanks</rant>
06:23.38ashanks:)
06:26.50ashanksswoolley: I have a rather complex SQL question..
06:26.56swoolleyyeah?
06:27.02Tryblithethis is turnign lame
06:27.09Tryblithepeopel fighting for...............100 lines of code?!
06:27.10Tryblithe=_=
06:27.16Tryblithehuamns shoudl be more productive
06:27.19Tryblithethan THIS
06:27.21Tryblithe-_-"
06:27.26Tryblithelol
06:27.28ashanksTryblithe: we're not anymore. the babies have it.
06:27.43Tryblithe*sad*
06:27.59Tryblitheman
06:28.01ashanksI have a table named users, and a table named posts, I want to return all the data from users table, but the count of every post by post table element author_id as the id of the users table.
06:28.15Tryblithe:-\
06:28.47swoolleyok
06:29.09swoolleyI need to know the fields in users
06:29.19ashanksok
06:29.20Tryblitheashanks: what IS hPanel?
06:29.25ashanksTryblithe: shh
06:29.29ashanksswoolley: all of them
06:29.30ashanks?
06:29.32TryblithecPanel?
06:30.04TryblithexPanel?
06:30.06TryblitheaPanel?
06:30.08TryblithesPanel?
06:30.12Tryblithe=_=
06:30.15TryblithefPanel?
06:30.18Tryblitheplesk?
06:30.22ashanksTryblithe: shh
06:30.55swoolleyselect count(primary_key_for_post_table), fields_in_user_*_won't_work from users,post group by author_id where post.author_id = users.id;
06:31.09Tryblitheashanks are you doing forum import?
06:31.15Tryblitheif so ure doing it the long way
06:31.16ashanksTryblithe: no
06:31.19Tryblithegood
06:31.25Tryblithecuz i finisehd everythign xcept for executor class
06:31.48ashanksso:
06:32.29ashanksselect count(id), what*here from users,posts group by author_id where post.author.id = users.id;
06:32.48ashanksI got everything but the what*here :)
06:33.02swoolleyI think group by goes after where, but not sure :)
06:33.17swoolleymight have to reverse those two clauses
06:33.26ashanksfields_in_user_*_won't_work ?
06:33.27swoolleywhat*where is all the columns in user
06:33.31ashanks:o
06:33.36ashankswhy not just * ?
06:33.40ashanksah,
06:33.41ashanksdamn
06:33.41swoolley* would return both users and posts
06:33.42ashanks:P
06:34.00ashankswait, I only need 5 things
06:34.00swoolleyusers.* might work
06:34.10swoolleydepends on the implementation
06:34.56ashanksSELECT users.*, COUNT(posts1.id) AS posts_count, COUNT(posts2.id) AS topics_count FROM users, posts posts1, posts posts2 WHERE (users.id = posts1.poster_id) AND (users.id = posts2.poster_id) AND (posts2.topic_id = 0) GROUP BY users.id ORDER BY $sort LIMIT $start, $count
06:35.00ashanksthat's what I had before
06:35.15ashankswhich worked, but it returned wrong post counts and users with no posts were not returned
06:35.26swoolleythat's easy to fix
06:35.38Tryblithe-_-"
06:35.52ashanksreally?
06:35.56swoolleythe reason users with no posts were not returned is because null is not selected in sql
06:36.02swoolleyyou have to be explicit
06:36.08ashankseh?
06:36.22ashankshow do I specify NULL to be returned too?
06:37.26swoolleywell, the best way is to do something called a "left join"
06:37.47swoolleyinner or outer left join is fine, but as long as you do a left join you should get it returning all the rows in users
06:38.15swoolleyand you can say where ... OR posts2.poster_id IS NULL
06:38.42swoolleythat will allow you to select nulls
06:39.12swoolleyif you do that for every column on the right that you cross join against (do an equals across tables), it's identical to a left join
06:39.31ashankshmmm
06:39.49swoolleywhy are you usign two post tables?
06:39.59ashankswe aren't.
06:40.05swoolleyI mean, why alias two?
06:40.15ashanksKynlem wrote that statement.
06:40.18swoolleythat's if you're dealing with two rows at once
06:41.13ashanksand that OR... IS NULL didn't work
06:41.15swoolleywhat's topic_id 0?
06:41.21ashanksthat means is a topic.
06:41.30ashanksI think he wanted to return all users' topics count too.
06:41.34ashanksposts' count will do.
06:41.36swoolleyIS NULL has to work
06:41.46ashanks"SELECT users.*, COUNT(posts1.id) AS posts_count, COUNT(posts2.id) AS topics_count FROM users, posts posts1, posts posts2 WHERE (users.id = posts1.poster_id) AND (users.id = posts2.poster_id) AND (posts2.topic_id = 0) OR posts2.poster_id IS NULL GROUP BY users.id ORDER BY $sort LIMIT $start, $count"
06:41.55swoolleybut you have to do it for all
06:42.07swoolleyboth poster_id's will need it
06:42.20swoolleyso what it will do is match any row with topic_id = 0
06:42.23swoolleyin the post table
06:42.39swoolleyand then multiply that by the number of posts made, period
06:42.41ashanksSELECT users.*, COUNT(posts1.id) AS posts_count, COUNT(posts2.id) AS topics_count FROM users, posts posts1, posts posts2 WHERE (users.id = posts1.poster_id) AND (users.id = posts2.poster_id) AND (posts2.topic_id = 0) OR posts1.poster_id IS NULL OR posts2.poster_id IS NULL GROUP BY users.id ORDER BY $sort LIMIT $start, $count
06:42.46ashanksdpesn
06:42.49ashanksdoesn't work
06:43.00ashanksreturns 2 rows only.
06:43.23swoolleyhow many users are there?
06:43.27ashanks17
06:43.33ashanks8)
06:43.48swoolleyyou need posts2_topic_id IS NULL also
06:44.07swoolleyscrap the IS NULL -- why not just use the left join feature?
06:44.15swoolleyit's like ten times easier
06:44.21ashankshow does that work?
06:46.10swoolleyyou want to count the number of topics somebody started?
06:46.24ashanksyeah, and posts
06:46.43ashankstopic_id is 0 for a topic, not 0 for a post.
06:46.52swoolleyahh
06:47.04ashanksin all posts rows there is a author_id (which is equal to id in users table)
06:47.41swoolleywell, that's just not the right way to do it
06:47.55swoolleyyou need to do a union after doing two separate queries
06:48.20swoolleywell, not a union
06:48.27swoolleyyou need to do them in two separate queries
06:48.28ashanksbefore, I used SELECT * FROM users, then for ($i=0; $i < count($users); $i++) { $users['posts'] = Query("SELECT COUNT(*) FROM posts WHERE author_id = ".$users['id']);
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06:48.55ashanksand it was taking FOREVER, because 2 queries per user, loading up a userlist page with 17 users, 8)
06:49.10swoolleyselect not good
06:49.15swoolleynot good
06:49.18swoolleyjust use two queries
06:49.23swoolleyone for topics
06:49.25swoolleyone for posts
06:49.38swoolleyit takes the same amount of time as his attempt
06:49.45Tryblitheashanks, why not just add / del a count?
06:49.52Tryblithethis select is just too demanding
06:49.53swoolleyTryblithe: that gets corrupted
06:49.56Tryblithecpu demanding
06:50.01swoolleyTryblithe: you've never seen some of my queries
06:50.14Tryblithewell ya but if ur db gets huge its not worth it
06:50.32Tryblithehow about we do one that gets updated in x time?
06:50.44Tryblithelike mass updated.........
06:50.48Tryblitheonce a day or osmehting lol
06:50.55Tryblithe:-\ when something ets big its not managable
06:50.59ashanksswoolley: so, you'd rather not do one query and return all the rows, you'd rather do ((1 + (numUsers * 2)) ?
06:51.25Tryblitheim goan go
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06:51.49ashankswhich, for 17 users, is 35 rows.
06:51.53ashanks35 queries
06:52.04ashanksI got a simpler idea :)
06:52.36ashanksJust not have a topics/posts count, put it on the profile page, so it only does it once per user
06:52.40swoolleymind if I paste one I did?
06:52.46ashankssure
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06:56.54swoolleythat's not the longest either
06:56.56swoolleyI can paste the longest if you want, but you probably don't
06:57.38ashankswow
06:57.53ashanksyeah, that's like thedailywtf.com quality 8)
06:58.16ashankshow long does that statement take to execute?
06:58.16swoolleyessentially all it means is we want everybody of certain doctors
06:58.32swoolleywho are actual patients
06:58.43swoolleywho are between 5 and 17 years old
06:59.12swoolleyand have a birthdate between now and three months from now
06:59.24swoolleywho aren't a credit risk
06:59.32swoolleywho aren't dead
06:59.43swoolleywho aren't dormant
06:59.53swoolleyand 20 other criteria
07:00.15swoolleywho have not had a physical within the past 18 months
07:00.39ashanksneat
07:00.42swoolleyand who we have at least seen within the last five years
07:00.51ashanksyeah
07:00.59swoolleyand who don't have an appointment in the fiture
07:01.08ashanksso why do you need that? to hit them up with a physical?
07:01.11swoolleyyep
07:01.22swoolleywe send postcards
07:01.26swoolleyevery month
07:01.40ashanksI wonder, when you get one of those "You're due for a 6th month eye exam", if one of those large queries were executed
07:01.58swoolleyyep
07:01.59ashanksyou only want the ones who got the cash :)
07:02.06swoolleyprobably not
07:02.11swoolleynot as good, I would think
07:02.16swoolleywe have pretty strong criteria
07:02.22ashankshmm.
07:02.23swoolleysince we have thousands of patients
07:02.46ashanksI thought that query returned ones with good credit
07:02.57swoolleyyeah
07:02.58ashanksROFL
07:03.13ashanks"Last backed up: March 7th, 2005"
07:03.14swoolleyI mean the eye exam is not as good
07:03.23swoolleywhere did you get that date?
07:03.27ashanksThis program is supposed to run and backup everything to our external hd
07:03.33swoolleynice
07:03.43ashanksit's supposed to run everyday at 2 AM
07:03.44ashanks:O
07:04.04ashanksit just ran, and quickly shutdown with an "error" connecting to firewire device.
07:04.22ashanksI could do a bash script in 4 lines to backup everything important :)
07:04.55ashanksfor i in `mdfind Alex||ashanks`
07:05.16ashanks<PROTECTED>
07:05.18ashanksdone
07:05.23ashanksor something
07:05.25ashanks:)
07:06.01ashanksmdfind is an OS X only utility to return all instances of the word "Alex" or "ashanks" (anything important) in the home folder.
07:06.12ashanksit's that spotlight technology thingy.
07:06.17swoolleyyeah
07:06.19swoolleysaw that
07:06.20ashanksmdfind is the command line way in.
07:06.24swoolleycould do that with grep -r in unix
07:06.40ashankswell, the thing is, the backup program sucks :)
07:06.55ashanksI should really write a script to backup easy.
07:07.07ashanksbut I don't want to screw up anything already on the backup hd.
07:08.18ashanksswoolley: what would you think about instead of indexing the actual hard drive and storing an index for it, that it read an XML meta tag or something... like:
07:09.17ashanks<meta name='fs-archiver-keywords' content='SQL code written for Project A' />
07:09.41ashanks<meta name='fs-archiver-date' content='07192005' />
07:10.12ashanksI wouldn't mind putting that in a comment at the top of my documents / code, if I knew that it would be easily findable later.
07:10.29ashanksand plus, you could have the texteditor automatically write those "headers" in.
07:12.26ashanksI know apple uses some sort of metadata tracker for spotlight, but I mean, some comments you could add to your code to make you able to access it easily later would be leet.
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07:15.05ashankshttp://thedailywtf.com/
07:15.06ashankshaha
07:15.08ashankslatest post
07:15.14ashankshttp://magic/magictsd/Commonframe.asp?Sequence=999999&strFormSeq=0&TMRecCount=5
07:15.15ashanks&ModuleID=24&QueryClause=%20%28%28%20%5BState%3A%5D%20%3D%20%27O%27%29%20AND%20
07:15.15ashanks%28%20%5BInActive%3A%5D%20%3D%200%29%20AND%20%28%20%5BSubject%20ID%5D%20NOT%20
07:15.15ashanksLIKE%20%27ARC%27%29%20AND%20%28%20%5BLogin%20ID%20Assigned%20To%5D%20%3D%20%27
07:15.15ashanks15447%27%29%20%29%20ORDER%20BY%20%5BIncident%20%23%5D%20DESC%20
07:15.22ashanksFair enough. So it's a big URL. But let's run a URLDecode on it ...
07:15.22ashankshttp://magic/magictsd/Commonframe.asp?Sequence=999999&strFormSeq=0&TMRecCount=5
07:15.22ashanks&ModuleID=24&QueryClause=(( [State:] = 'O') AND ( [InActive:] = 0) AND (
07:15.22ashanks[Subject ID] NOT LIKE 'ARC') AND ( [Login ID Assigned To] = '15447') ) ORDER BY
07:15.23ashanks[Incident #] DESC
07:18.02swoolleylol
07:18.17swoolleyrunning sql on the query string
07:18.28ashanksreally safe :)
07:18.36swoolleybraindead
07:18.58ashanksthis one is retarded as well:
07:18.59ashanksSelect Case LCase(controlType)
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07:19.12ashanksEnd Select
07:19.28ashanksnotice that he just bypassed the use of a select..case by using IFs on the input :)
07:19.56swoolleyyeah ...
07:20.17ashanksyou see the server room picture?
07:20.24swoolleyno, I'm not there
07:20.45ashanksoh
07:20.48ashanksit's funny
07:21.12ashanksbbl
07:21.13ashankssleep
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14:33.01aptivahi..
15:11.31freelandhi
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15:48.08freelandhi jordanf
15:48.12freelandhow's it hangin'
15:48.15jordanfwaddup
15:49.11freelandjust doing my thang
15:57.18aptivaaren't you in like.. the next room to his?
15:57.34freelandyes :P
15:59.43freelandbtw, hi aptiva
16:00.43aptivahi
16:00.51aptivahave you guys tried deerpark?
16:01.47freelandwhats that
16:01.53aptivanext gen firefox
16:02.00aptivaactually *works* on os x
16:02.04aptivadoesn't just *run*
16:02.19freelandlol
16:02.30freelandi use "firefox" :P
16:02.52aptivahttp://www.mozilla.org/projects/deerpark/alpha2.html
16:03.45freeland:) where can i download? :P
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16:33.08freelandhi aptiva
17:16.57aptiva_hihi
17:17.13aptivamaaan Savage is a great game
17:18.09freelandhm?
17:18.15aptivas2games.com
17:18.17aptivacheck it
17:18.23aptivafps strategy game
17:18.47freeland:P
17:19.47freelandcool
17:20.18freelandand halo :P
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17:32.40Mojo_JojoJeneen asked me if I wanted to go for a walk today.
17:32.40Mojo_JojoWe're gonna go in half an hour :)
17:34.22freelandhey
17:34.29Mojo_Jojohowdy.
17:34.41Mojo_JojoIts a crazy world.
17:34.46freelandmeh
17:34.56freelandis that your girl? :P
17:35.09Mojo_Jojofreeland, we met at a party last weekend, she is married.
17:35.16freelandlol
17:35.18Mojo_Jojofreeland, but yeah, seems like she likes me.
17:35.35freelandyou're gonna get beat up by her hubby...
17:35.39freelandor not :P
17:35.49freelandif you are like a foot taller than him lol
17:36.09Mojo_Jojoyeah, i am a foot taller. But I probably wont be going to those parties anymore, I dotn want to get ganged up.
17:36.27Mojo_Jojoor shot
17:36.29freelandmojo_jojo, we got creamed in bball last night.... but i had 10 points off of three 3 pointers
17:36.32freeland+ ft
17:36.45Mojo_Jojocan you dunk?
17:36.53freelandon a 10 foot hoop?!
17:37.02freelandnaww
17:37.05Mojo_JojoI can, but not in a game.
17:37.25freelandat 6' 5" you should be able to lol
17:37.40freelandi'm like... 5' 7"
17:37.46freelandthat's why i play guard :P
17:37.52freeland(but i'm only 14 soooo)
17:37.59Mojo_Jojoohh, I see
17:38.17Mojo_JojoI first dunked when I was 14, but I was like 6'2"
17:38.44freelandi can dunk on a lower hoop like 8.5 feet or maybe 9
17:39.05Mojo_Jojobut Im not a basketball player at all, I can't drible.
17:39.10Mojo_Jojowhere are you from?
17:39.26freelandlike, where i  live?
17:39.29Mojo_Jojoyeah
17:39.38freelandjust SW of D.C on the virginia side
17:39.53Mojo_Jojoohh, east coast.
17:39.57freelandya :P
17:40.05Mojo_Jojowizards fan ?
17:40.27freelandyeah :P my fav are the pistons though.... even though they got schooled in game 7
17:40.45aptivabulls all da way!
17:40.54Mojo_Jojoohh, yeah, Im from Portland... Racheed Wallace used to play for our team.
17:41.01freelandw00t
17:41.05Mojo_JojoThen he moved to Detroit and won the title
17:41.21Mojo_Jojoaptiva, the bulls sucked for the past 7 years.
17:41.24aptivawhy would anyone want to move _to_ detroit?
17:41.29freelandlol
17:41.46Mojo_Jojoaptiva, he had some behavior problems... beeting up referees and stuff
17:41.47aptivaMojo_Jojo: I don't care :), I haven't watched basketball since jordan quit the bulls
17:42.06aptivaso the bulls can suck as much as they want
17:42.08freelandi betcha i can shoot 3's better than some NBA players
17:42.09Mojo_Jojoaptiva, Racheed wallace pretty much got kicked out from our team.
17:42.10aptivaI'll still be afan :)
17:42.14aptivaI see
17:42.21aptivaI have no idea who that is :P
17:42.36aptivabasketball isn't really big in iceland
17:42.45Mojo_Jojoyeah, I imagine.
17:42.45freelandRasheed Wallace - Power Forward - Detroit Pistons - 6
17:42.51freeland' 11"
17:43.05freelandyeah.... kinda hard to play bball on ice you know
17:43.13aptivastfu or die
17:43.13Mojo_JojoI loved him because of his attitude, he would yell and stuff
17:43.13aptiva:)
17:43.18aptivaheh
17:43.20freelandhaha
17:43.42freelandhttp://irc.maxkelley.com/piespy/ << lol look at us
17:43.49Mojo_Jojobut the Blazers had a bad reputation... like all the players had drug charges
17:44.03aptivawow
17:44.06aptivafreeland: hehehe
17:44.11freelandno they didn't, mojo
17:44.16freelandi dont think they did..
17:44.30aptivaafauk you mean?
17:44.40freelandi never heard of such things
17:44.58Mojo_Jojowell, we even call them "The Jail Blazers"
17:45.09freelandLOL
17:45.11Mojo_Jojoask swoolley, he lives about 20 minutes away from me
17:45.16aptivathat's just mean...
17:45.34freelandmojo_jojo: you should go see swoolley sometime :P
17:45.34Mojo_Jojowell guys, I gotta call up my girl.
17:45.42Mojo_Jojoyeah, I might.
17:45.46freeland(she's married)
17:45.47freelandlol
17:46.12freelandaptiva: mojo's getting into some deep shit
17:46.25freelandhis "girl" is already married lol
17:47.35aptivaI wouldn't worry about the married part
17:47.48aptivathe fact that he's a "girl" is the bad part
17:48.32freelandhe's not a girl lol
17:49.53freelandgot anymore girls on webcams to flash you? LOL
17:50.27aptivanah :)
17:50.43aptivawasn't in the mood for pscychological experiments
17:52.24freelandlol
18:09.08freelandhmmmmm
18:09.14freelandwhat is the HTML code for this sign:
18:09.16freeland>
18:09.25aptiva&gt;
18:09.33aptiva(greater than)
18:09.41freelandty :P
18:09.42aptiva< is &lt; (lower than)
18:09.50freeland(less than)
18:09.51freeland:P
18:13.23aptivaa number isn't "less" than another number...
18:13.47freeland> greater than
18:13.52freeland< less than
18:13.53aptivayes
18:13.54aptivano
18:14.08aptivaa number is greater but cannot be "Less"
18:14.10aptivaless is for quantity
18:14.20aptivaless == opposite of more
18:14.22aptivanot greater
18:14.23freelandnumbers can have less value
18:14.34aptivano
18:14.37freeland1 < 2
18:14.55aptivawell then
18:14.57aptivabe that way
18:15.03freelandLOL
18:23.31swoolley-workthey are called the Jail Blazers
18:24.05freeland<Mojo_Jojo> well, we even call them "The Jail Blazers"
18:24.47freelandheh
18:24.59freelandhi swoolley-work
18:25.03freelandare you always at work?
18:25.04swoolley-workI asked #orlug who had heard the reference
18:25.06swoolley-work11:24 < thumper^> heard? I use it, regularly. :)
18:25.35swoolley-workfreeland: during the day I am
18:25.47freelanddo you work from home?
18:25.50swoolley-workno
18:25.53swoolley-workI work from work
18:25.56freelandyou should :P
18:25.58swoolley-workand I home from home
18:26.03swoolley-worktoo many hardware failures
18:26.08freelandheh
18:26.10swoolley-workI'm responsible for software and hardware
18:26.16freelandi see
18:29.06aptivayou want to know what sucks?
18:29.12freelandI KNOW
18:29.15freelandlet me tell you
18:29.16freeland:
18:29.32aptivaXY calculations repeated around 60 times a second
18:29.41freelandAptiva can't spend a week with the hottest girl in Iceland b/c he has to work ;)
18:29.41aptivabased on another variable coordinate
18:29.44freelandlol
18:29.49aptivafreeland: DO NOT BRING THAT UP
18:29.56freeland:P
18:50.16aptivawant to see fucking boring code?
18:51.20aptivahttp://paste.lisp.org/display/10056
18:51.30aptiva*note* might contain errors, haven't compiled it yet
18:55.01aptivawell...
18:55.05aptivano opinions?
18:58.08aptivawell..
18:58.14aptivait doesn't work :P
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19:01.55darthpwntyo
19:01.58darthpwntashanks_,
19:21.23aptivaYEAH
19:21.27aptivaFINALLY
19:24.48darthpwntTOOK A DUMP HAVE WE?
19:25.02aptivano.. :)
19:27.40freelandback
19:27.44freelandDARTHPWNT!
19:27.45freelandhi
19:27.46darthpwntDUDE
19:27.48darthpwntSUP
19:27.51freelandheh :P
19:27.55freelandnm you? :P
19:28.11freeland* aptiva got rid of about 18 pounds of frustration
19:28.11freeland<darthpwnt> TOOK A DUMP HAVE WE?
19:28.13freelandROFL
19:31.05darthpwntlol
19:31.06darthpwntLO
19:31.10darthpwntim chillin
19:31.10darthpwntbrb
19:33.28freelandokee
19:42.15freelandsoooooo
19:42.58darthpwntOMFG
19:43.00darthpwntSCOTTY
19:43.01darthpwntDIDE
19:43.02darthpwntDIED
19:43.18freelandyeah... beam me up scotty!
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19:43.21freelandscotty?
19:43.25freelandwhere are you?
19:43.26freelandahhhhhh
19:43.29aptivaIt's no use captain
19:43.31aptivaI'm too fat
19:43.40freelandlol
19:43.47darthpwntlol
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20:09.50Mojo_Jojoswoolley : http://www.greshamfirst.org/
20:11.38Mojo_Jojoworking out those muscles so I can defend for myself when I get ganged up.
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20:37.55kryptechyo
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20:42.53kryptechit would be fun to program apps for X
20:42.59kryptechlike write a wm
20:43.48freelandhi
20:44.52kryptechyo
20:47.42kryptechheh, this x windows tutorial is 11 years old
20:48.04freeland:P
20:50.06kryptechwell MIT X 10 was like what? 89?
20:51.04kryptechI'm gonna try to be on the enlightenment team when I get my high speed connection
20:52.42freelanddamn
20:52.50freelandi have 230 icons on my desktop
20:52.56kryptechwhat?
20:53.09kryptechwindows?
20:54.10freelandyeah
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20:55.27freelandjordanf: i had like 230 icons on my desktop
20:55.32freelandonly 170 fit...
20:55.41freelandthe other 60 were in another folder :P
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20:59.21freelandhi cache ashanks_ axle darthpwnt gokee2 jordanf loggerdude piebot purl ravensky swoolley swoolley-work tektik themaximus trochej aptiva kryptech :P
21:00.02freelandno one is here though :P
21:00.07freelandthis is a test:
21:00.10kryptechwhat?
21:00.12freelandjordanf
21:00.12freelandjordanf
21:00.15freelandjordanf
21:00.17freelandjordanf
21:00.19freelandjordanf
21:00.21freelandjordanf
21:00.23freelandjordanf
21:00.27freelandjordanf
21:00.29freelandjordanf
21:00.31freelandjordanf
21:00.33freeland__end of test__
21:00.56kryptechgood, if you enter it enough times, you can be kicked from freenode
21:01.08freelandare you threatening me?
21:01.23darthpwntDUDE
21:01.24darthpwntut
21:01.25darthpwntbbl
21:02.23jordanfYes, he is
21:02.53jordanfwus
21:02.56kryptechfreeland: no, I'm serious
21:03.19kryptechlike, if you say the same thing too many times, I think you can be kicked
21:03.28kryptechby a freenode bot
21:03.44jordanfI sent in a bot that said things a few hundred times and it didn't get killed... ?
21:03.55freeland*cough* kryptech: i've been here longer than you, i know how it works. there is no freenode bot.
21:04.42jordanffreeland, he's been around 6 weeks longer
21:04.57freelandno he hasnt, not on irc at least
21:05.15darthpwntashanks_, PING
21:05.27jordanffreeland, check nickserv info
21:05.32kryptechfreeland: hmm... I was here a long time ago
21:05.42kryptechwhen tfp didnt even exist
21:06.12kryptechbut I know I got that on some network, maybe it wasnt freenode
21:06.16freelandlet's see if a bot kicks me for flooding :)
21:06.24kryptechk
21:06.29freelandhere i go:
21:06.31freeland.
21:06.34freeland.
21:06.38freeland.
21:06.40freeland.
21:06.40jordanf.
21:06.42freeland.
21:06.42kryptechthats not flooding
21:06.43jordanf.
21:06.44freeland.
21:06.46jordanf.
21:06.46freeland.
21:06.48jordanf.
21:06.50freeland.
21:06.51jordanf.
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21:06.53jordanf.
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21:06.56jordanf.
21:06.56freeland.
21:06.58freeland.
21:06.58jordanf.
21:07.00freeland..
21:07.01jordanf.
21:07.02freeland.
21:07.04freeland.
21:07.06freeland.
21:07.10freeland.
21:07.12freeland.
21:07.14freeland.
21:07.16freeland.
21:07.20freeland.
21:07.22freeland.
21:07.25kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.25kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.25kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.25kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.26freeland.
21:07.28freeland.
21:07.30kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.30freeland.
21:07.32kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.32freeland.
21:07.34kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.34freeland.
21:07.36kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.38kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:07.38freeland.
21:07.40freeland.
21:07.40kryptech#define __KERNEL_SYSCALLS__
21:07.42kryptech#include <linux/config.h>
21:07.42freeland.
21:07.44freelandlol
21:07.46kryptech#include <linux/types.h>
21:07.46freelandthen what is it?!
21:07.50kryptech#include <linux/module.h>
21:07.52freelandLOL
21:07.52kryptech#include <linux/proc_fs.h>
21:07.54kryptech#include <linux/devfs_fs_kernel.h>
21:07.56kryptech#include <linux/kernel.h>
21:07.58kryptech#include <linux/syscalls.h>
21:08.00kryptech#include <linux/string.h>
21:08.02kryptech#include <linux/ctype.h>
21:08.04kryptech#include <linux/delay.h>
21:08.06kryptech#include <linux/utsname.h>
21:08.08kryptech#include <linux/ioport.h>
21:08.10kryptech#include <linux/init.h>
21:08.14kryptech#include <linux/smp_lock.h>
21:08.16kryptech#include <linux/initrd.h>
21:08.17freelandFeb 24 20:20:46 <kobs>feel free to help =)
21:08.17freelandFeb 24 20:20:48 <aidan>want to do quilon's for him?
21:08.17freelandFeb 24 20:20:57 <kobs>if i can in links...
21:08.17freelandFeb 24 20:21:01 <aidan>kobs: where does it all live?
21:08.17freelandFeb 24 20:21:07 <kobs>on webmin
21:08.20freelandFeb 24 20:21:09 <quilon>cool.. my registered account is jeffery
21:08.20kryptech#include <linux/hdreg.h>
21:08.22freelandFeb 24 20:21:59 <kobs>i cant do it
21:08.22kryptech#include <linux/bootmem.h>
21:08.24freelandFeb 24 20:22:00 <kobs>sorry
21:08.24kryptech#include <linux/tty.h>
21:08.26freelandFeb 24 20:22:04 <aidan>kobs: my ssh user/pass? or root?
21:08.26kryptech#include <linux/gfp.h>
21:08.28freelandFeb 24 20:22:07 <kobs>i will do it tomorrow at school if i have time
21:08.28*** mode/#tfp [+o Gokee2] by ChanServ
21:08.28kryptech#include <linux/percpu.h>
21:08.29*** mode/#tfp [+m] by Gokee2
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21:08.58*** mode/#tfp [-m] by Gokee2
21:08.59freelandFeb 24 20:25:28 <kobs>there are so many pending's
21:09.00freelandFeb 24 20:25:46 <aidan>anyone with a non a-z name is out :P
21:09.00kryptech#include <linux/mempolicy.h>
21:09.02freelandFeb 24 20:25:54 <aidan>or a stupid real name
21:09.02kryptech#include <linux/key.h>
21:09.04freelandFeb 24 20:26:15 <aidan>how many users do we have/want?
21:09.05kryptech#include <asm/io.h>
21:09.06freelandFeb 24 20:27:42 <aidan>man, a lot of chineese users here
21:09.07kryptech#include <asm/bugs.h>
21:09.08freelandFeb 24 20:27:53 <aidan>minus e
21:09.09kryptech#include <asm/setup.h>
21:09.10kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.11freelandFeb 24 20:32:19 <aidan>okay, just approved a select 100 or so
21:09.12freelandFeb 24 20:33:09 <aidan>indoanimelyrics.dotgeek.org, I think not.
21:09.14jordanf+q them, gokee
21:09.16kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.17freelandFeb 24 20:35:08 <aidan>one of my lectures is called "Gnananandan Sanjayan"
21:09.20freelandFeb 24 20:35:10 *aidan sighs
21:09.21kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.22freelandFeb 24 20:39:48 <aidan>kobs: what's status=blocked?
21:09.22kryptech#if __GNUC__ == 2 && __GNUC_MINOR__ == 96
21:09.24freelandFeb 24 20:39:58 <aidan>should I do that for dumb ones, or should I just delete them?
21:09.24kryptech#ifdef CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER
21:09.26freelandFeb 24 20:42:24 <kobs>just delete them
21:09.26kryptech#error This compiler cannot compile correctly with frame pointers enabled
21:09.28freelandFeb 24 20:43:15 <aidan>all done
21:09.28kryptech#endif
21:09.30freelandFeb 24 20:46:14 <kobs>if you think that was rough... wait til you see the hosting applications page
21:09.32kryptech#ifdef CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC
21:09.32freelandFeb 24 20:47:28 <aidan>heh
21:09.34kryptech#include <asm/smp.h>
21:09.34freelandFeb 24 21:00:00 <RyanF>kobs?
21:09.36kryptech#endif
21:09.38kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.38*** mode/#tfp [+o jordanf] by ChanServ
21:09.38freelandFeb 24 21:05:47 <k4st>hey ryan
21:09.40kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.40freelandFeb 24 21:08:09 <RyanF>hi k4st
21:09.42kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.42freelandFeb 24 21:18:10 *iridium has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:09.44kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.44freelandFeb 24 21:40
21:09.46kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.46freelandFeb 24 20:20:46 <kobs>feel free to help =)
21:09.50kryptech#if __GNUC__ < 2 || (__GNUC__ == 2 && __GNUC_MINOR__ < 95)
21:09.51freelandFeb 24 20:20:48 <aidan>want to do quilon's for him?
21:09.52kryptech#
21:09.52freelandFeb 24 20:20:57 <kobs>if i can in links...
21:09.54kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.54freelandFeb 24 20:21:01 <aidan>kobs: where does it all live?
21:09.56kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.57freelandFeb 24 20:21:07 <kobs>on webmin
21:09.58kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:09.58freelandFeb 24 20:21:09 <quilon>cool.. my registered account is jeffery
21:10.00kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:10.00freelandFeb 24 20:21:59 <kobs>i cant do it
21:10.02kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:10.02freelandFeb 24 20:22:00 <kobs>sorry
21:10.04freelandFeb 24 20:22:04 <aidan>kobs: my ssh user/pass? or root?
21:10.04kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:10.06kryptechstatic void __init do_basic_setup(void)
21:10.06freelandFeb 24 20:22:07 <kobs>i will do it tomorrow at school if i have time
21:10.08kryptech{
21:10.08freelandFeb 24 20:22:14 <kobs>aidan: nah, it's separate login system
21:10.10kryptech/* drivers will send hotplug events */
21:10.10freelandFeb 24 20:22:22 <kobs>aidan: ill give you mine
21:10.12freelandFeb 24 20:22:55 <aidan>ta
21:10.14kryptechinit_workqueues();
21:10.14freelandFeb 24 20:24:31 <aidan>quilon: all done
21:10.16kryptechusermodehelper_init();
21:10.16freelandFeb 24 20:24:49 <kobs>aidan: you can go ahead and approve/deny others at your discretion =)
21:10.19*** part/#tfp freeland (~freeland@ip68-100-73-140.dc.dc.cox.net)
21:10.20kryptechkey_init();
21:10.20freelandFeb 24 20:24:54 <quilon>thanks mate
21:10.22kryptechdriver_init();
21:10.22freelandFeb 24 20:24:55 <kobs>someties i like to play games with it
21:10.24kryptech#ifdef CONFIG_SYSCTL
21:10.24freelandFeb 24 20:24:56 <kobs>hah
21:10.26kryptechsysctl_init();
21:10.26freelandFeb 24 20:25:07 <quilon>thanks kobs
21:10.28kryptech#endif
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21:10.30kryptech/* Networking initialization needs a process context */
21:10.32kryptechsock_init();
21:10.34freelandFeb 24 20:25:17 <aidan>kobs: haha
21:10.34kryptechdo_initcalls();
21:10.36kryptech}
21:10.38freelandFeb 24 20:25:24 <kobs>seriously
21:10.38kryptechstatic void do_pre_smp_initcalls(void)
21:10.40kryptech{
21:10.40freelandFeb 24 20:25:28 <kobs>there are so many pending's
21:10.42freelandFeb 24 20:25:46 <aidan>anyone with a non a-z name is out :P
21:10.42kryptechextern int spawn_ksoftirqd(void);
21:10.44freelandFeb 24 20:25:54 <aidan>or a stupid real name
21:10.44kryptech#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
21:10.46freelandFeb 24 20:26:15 <aidan>how many users do we have/want?
21:10.46kryptechextern int migration_init(void);
21:10.50freelandFeb 24 20:27:42 <aidan>man, a lot of chineese users here
21:10.50kryptechmigration_init();
21:10.52freelandFeb 24 20:27:53 <aidan>minus e
21:10.52kryptech#endif
21:10.54freelandFeb 24 20:32:19 <aidan>okay, just approved a select 100 or so
21:10.54kryptechspawn_ksoftirqd();
21:10.56freelandFeb 24 20:33:09 <aidan>indoanimelyrics.dotgeek.org, I think not.
21:10.56kryptech}
21:10.58freelandFeb 24 20:35:08 <aidan>one of my lectures is called "Gnananandan Sanjayan"
21:10.58kryptechstatic void run_init_process(char *init_filename)
21:11.00freelandFeb 24 20:35:10 *aidan sighs
21:11.00kryptech{
21:11.02freelandFeb 24 20:39:48 <aidan>kobs: what's status=blocked?
21:11.02kryptechargv_init[0] = init_filename;
21:11.04freelandFeb 24 20:39:58 <aidan>should I do that for dumb ones, or should I just delete them?
21:11.04kryptechexecve(init_filename, argv_init, envp_init);
21:11.06freelandFeb 24 20:42:24 <kobs>just delete them
21:11.06kryptech}
21:11.08kryptechstatic inline void fixup_cpu_present_map(void)
21:11.10kryptech{
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21:11.14kryptech#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
21:11.16freelandFeb 24 20:43:15 <aidan>all done
21:11.16kryptechint i;
21:11.18kryptech/*
21:11.20freelandFeb 24 20:46:14 <kobs>if you think that was rough... wait til you see the hosting applications page
21:11.22freelandFeb 24 20:47:28 <aidan>heh
21:11.22kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:11.24kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:11.24freelandFeb 24 21:00:00 <RyanF>kobs?
21:11.26freelandFeb 24 21:05:47 <k4st>hey ryan
21:11.26kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:11.28kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:11.28freelandFeb 24 21:08:09 <RyanF>hi k4st
21:11.30freelandFeb 24 21:18:10 *iridium has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
21:11.30kryptechif (cpus_empty(cpu_present_map)) {
21:11.32freelandFeb 24 21:40
21:11.32kryptechfor_each_cpu(i) {
21:11.34freelandFeb 24 20:20:46 <kobs>feel free to help =)
21:11.34kryptechcpu_set(i, cpu_present_map);
21:11.36kryptech}
21:11.38freelandFeb 24 20:20:48 <aidan>want to do quilon's for him?
21:11.38kryptech}
21:11.40kryptech#endif
21:11.40freelandFeb 24 20:20:57 <kobs>if i can in links...
21:11.42kryptech}
21:11.42freelandFeb 24 20:21:01 <aidan>kobs: where does it all live?
21:11.44kryptechstatic int init(void * unused)
21:11.44freelandFeb 24 20:21:07 <kobs>on webmin
21:11.46kryptech{
21:11.46freelandFeb 24 20:21:09 <quilon>cool.. my registered account is jeffery
21:11.48kryptechlock_kernel();
21:11.50freelandFeb 24 20:21:59 <kobs>i cant do it
21:11.52kryptech/*
21:11.52freelandFeb 24 20:22:00 <kobs>sorry
21:11.54kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:11.54freelandFeb 24 20:22:04 <aidan>kobs: my ssh user/pass? or root?
21:11.56kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:11.56freelandFeb 24 20:22:07 <kobs>i will do it tomorrow at school if i have time
21:11.58freelandFeb 24 20:22:14 <kobs>aidan: nah, it's separate login system
21:11.58kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.00kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.00freelandFeb 24 20:22:22 <kobs>aidan: ill give you mine
21:12.02kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.02freelandFeb 24 20:22:55 <aidan>ta
21:12.04kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.04freelandFeb 24 20:24:31 <aidan>quilon: all done
21:12.06kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.06freelandFeb 24 20:24:49 <kobs>aidan: you can go ahead and approve/deny others at your discretion =)
21:12.08freelandFeb 24 20:24:54 <quilon>thanks mate
21:12.10kryptechchild_reaper = current;
21:12.11freelandFeb 24 20:24:55 <kobs>someties i like to play games with it
21:12.13freelandFeb 24 20:24:56 <kobs>hah
21:12.14kryptech/* Sets up cpus_possible() */
21:12.14freelandFeb 24 20:25:07 <quilon>thanks kobs
21:12.16freelandFeb 24 20:25:17 <aidan>kobs: haha
21:12.16kryptechsmp_prepare_cpus(max_cpus);
21:12.17jordanf:)
21:12.18kryptechdo_pre_smp_initcalls();
21:12.20freelandFeb 24 20:25:24 <kobs>seriously
21:12.22kryptechfixup_cpu_present_map();
21:12.22freelandFeb 24 20:25:28 <kobs>there are so many pending's
21:12.24kryptechsmp_init();
21:12.24freelandFeb 24 20:25:46 <aidan>anyone with a non a-z name is out :P
21:12.26kryptechsched_init_smp();
21:12.27freelandFeb 24 20:25:54 <aidan>or a stupid real name
21:12.28kryptech/*
21:12.28freelandFeb 24 20:26:15 <aidan>how many users do we have/want?
21:12.30freelandFeb 24 20:27:42 <aidan>man, a lot of chineese users here
21:12.30kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.32freelandFeb 24 20:27:53 <aidan>minus e
21:12.32kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.34kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.34freelandFeb 24 20:32:19 <aidan>okay, just approved a select 100 or so
21:12.36kryptechpopulate_rootfs();
21:12.38freelandFeb 24 20:33:09 <aidan>indoanimelyrics.dotgeek.org, I think not.
21:12.38kryptechdo_basic_setup();
21:12.40kryptech/*
21:12.40freelandFeb 24 20:35:08 <aidan>one of my lectures is called "Gnananandan Sanjayan"
21:12.42freelandFeb 24 20:35:10 *aidan sighs
21:12.42kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.44freelandFeb 24 20:39:48 <aidan>kobs: what's status=blocked?
21:12.44kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.46kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:12.46freelandFeb 24 20:39:58 <aidan>should I do that for dumb ones, or should I just delete them?
21:12.48kryptechif (sys_access((const char __user *) "/init", 0) == 0)
21:12.50freelandFeb 24 20:42:24 <kobs>just delete them
21:12.52kryptechexecute_command = "/init";
21:12.52freelandFeb 24 20:43:15 <aidan>all done
21:12.54kryptechelse
21:12.54freelandFeb 24 20:46:14 <kobs>if you think that was rough... wait til you see the hosting applications page
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21:12.56kryptechprepare_namespace();
21:12.57freelandFeb 24 20:47:28 <aidan>heh
21:12.58kryptech/*
21:12.58freelandFeb 24 21:00:00 <RyanF>kobs?
21:13.00kryptech<PROTECTED>
21:13.00freelandFeb 24 21:05:47 <k4st>hey ryan
21:13.02kryptechlinux main.c
21:13.02freelandFeb 24 21:08:09 <RyanF>hi k4st
21:13.04kryptechkernel
21:13.04freelandFeb 24 21:18:10 *iridium has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
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21:13.06kryptechheh
21:13.06freelandFeb 24 21:40
21:13.08freelandhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
21:13.10kryptechyo
21:13.12freelandgokee, fuck off
21:13.14kryptechokay, shut up now
21:13.14freelandi was testing omething
21:13.16jordanfdamn
21:13.16kryptechstfu
21:13.16freelandsome*
21:13.18kryptechwait, why you have logs from feb 24?
21:13.20freelandkick kryptech not me
21:13.22freelandKICK HIM
21:13.24kryptechits because ashanks wants the upper hand when we get into fights
21:13.24freelandhelllllllllllllllllllllllo?????????????
21:13.35kryptechoh yea, you just try gokee
21:13.47jordanfYou both should get kicked...
21:14.00kryptechwhy?
21:14.20jordanfTake that in a different channel
21:14.27kryptechsurely you arent starting to care about wasting bandwith
21:14.47kryptechI think you just want to act all big and bad, you can do that with shanks
21:14.48jordanfhaha :)
21:14.55kryptech;-)
21:15.13jordanfYou make me laugh
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21:15.18kryptech"Alex Skanks"
21:15.20kryptechshit!!
21:15.20jordanfYou 12 or something?
21:15.30freelandgokee2 is retarded
21:15.33jordanfuhoh, we're screwed :)
21:15.43kryptechjordanf: 15
21:15.45freelandall he wants is ops in every channel in irc
21:15.52kryptechgokee?
21:16.00freelandyeah
21:16.00jordanfWhat'd he do?
21:16.07kryptechwhatd he do?
21:16.21freelandq'ed me
21:16.34kryptechuhh... what is that again?
21:16.43freelandmuted me
21:16.45jordanfMakes sense
21:16.50ashankscallm down.
21:17.02jordanfashanks, just a little testing they were doing
21:17.03jordanfhehe
21:17.05freelandlol all he does is sit on irc all day.......
21:17.12ashankswho? me?
21:17.15freelandwaiting for a chance to piss someone off with his ops
21:17.16kryptechyeah you
21:17.19freelandno ashanks
21:17.22freelandgokee2
21:17.35ashankswhat happened?
21:17.40kryptechwasnt he that guy we taught to program last summer ashanks
21:18.02freelandno way
21:18.08freelandhe doesn't even no html
21:18.17freelandor how to use TABLES damnit
21:18.19freeland(or divs)
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21:18.37ashanksrelax dude.
21:18.54kryptechhow old is freeland?
21:19.01freeland14
21:19.07kryptechyou sound like jemfinch
21:19.12freelandlol
21:19.14kryptechand thats saying a lot
21:19.17jordanfdefinitely
21:19.21freelandfreeland = ryanf
21:19.35jordanfI thought we were going to play an age guessing game
21:19.38kryptechfreeland: you know jeremy fincher?
21:19.44kryptechhow old am I
21:19.45freelandnope
21:19.55freelandstfu jordan
21:20.03kryptecharent you guys brothers
21:20.14freelandno we're sisters
21:20.18freelandwell..
21:20.20freelandhe is my sister
21:20.27freeland;-)
21:20.27kryptechwtf
21:20.31jordanf:/
21:20.34freelandLOL
21:20.36jordanfSoundin' pretty gay there, freeland
21:20.38ashanksman, I went out to lunch today at this restaurant...
21:20.48ashanksTook an hour to get a little hamburger.
21:20.49kryptechwhich one
21:20.53freelandlol
21:20.54ashanksCody's.
21:21.00kryptechahh.. dont know it
21:21.09kryptechashanks; effingham?
21:21.10ashanksIt's like a steakhouse / grill
21:21.27ashankskryptech: what are you doing, reading from .stalkers?
21:21.28ashanks;)
21:21.47ashankscat /usr/share/.stalkers
21:22.47kryptechnah, use dog
21:23.02kryptech'man dog; 'better than cat'
21:23.22jordanfryanf@serv1# /sbin/stalk --all --bedroom asiammyself
21:24.02ashanksjordanf: no, it's a text file, it's on kryptech's machine, and it's got a . to be hidden from FBI warrented searches :)
21:24.08jordanfhehe
21:24.18jordanfryanf was running his stalk app though...
21:24.20ashanksman, is AIM down?
21:24.25ashankscannot connect to server.
21:24.25freelandjordanf: s - t - f - u
21:24.31kryptechgotta go
21:24.33jordanfashanks, up for me
21:24.35ashankskryptech: k
21:24.40freelandahanks: up for me 2
21:24.53ashanksjordanf: hmm. you're on that oscar server?
21:25.12ashanksah, just got through connecting.
21:26.30jordanfashanks?
21:26.40ashanksashanks04 on AIM
21:26.48ashanksashanks04 on YIM
21:26.59ashanksashanks04[@hotmail.com] on MSN
21:27.04ashanksashanks05 on skype
21:27.07ashanksashanks on IRC
21:27.19ashanksashanks@gmail.com on email.
21:27.23ashanks:) not too hard.
21:27.37freelandbrb
21:27.58ashanksah, kryptech is gone, he would've been appending the .stalkers file with that ^^ :)
21:31.13darthpwntASHANKS
21:31.14darthpwntSKYPE
21:31.21ashanksdarthpwnt: k?
21:31.37darthpwnthold
21:32.38darthpwntK
21:35.50freelanddarthpwnt: hi
21:36.44freelandashanks, darthpwnt: i can skype after i eat dinner
21:36.58darthpwntk
21:37.00darthpwntwe on now
21:37.01darthpwntlol
21:38.06freelandi gotta eat in like 1 minute :P
21:38.58darthpwntim eating now
21:38.59darthpwntrofl
21:39.00darthpwnt:P
21:39.02darthpwntON SKY{PE
21:39.03darthpwntGG
21:39.55freelandbbs
22:06.37darthpwntk
22:06.46*** mode/#tfp [+v ashanks] by ChanServ
22:07.01*** mode/#tfp [+vv freeland Gokee2] by ChanServ
22:13.12Gokee2woops gone for a min
22:13.20Gokee2looks like spaming has stoped :)
22:14.53darthpwntlol
22:14.54darthpwnt<3
22:17.47Gokee2freeland, I do know tables I just hate them
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22:28.40freelandhi
22:29.05darthpwntHI
22:29.10freelandhey
22:29.14darthpwntHI
22:29.17freelandlemme get mah mic
22:29.21darthpwntSKYPE
22:29.23darthpwnt<3
22:30.22darthpwntOMFG
22:30.25darthpwnt:D
22:31.03freeland:P
22:31.22darthpwnt:P
22:31.25freeland:P
22:31.40darthpwnt<liz4rd> he thinks westole his code
22:31.40darthpwnt<kbrooks> liz4rd: damn hypocrite :/
22:31.40darthpwnt<liz4rd> :P
22:31.42darthpwntlol
22:31.45darthpwntwatta nbub
22:31.47darthpwnt:P
22:33.40darthpwnt/join #hpanel
22:33.50freelandlol
22:33.59darthpwntJOIN
22:34.01darthpwntGOGOGOGOGOGOGO
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22:49.44ashanksBe back in like, 20 mins.
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23:28.18Kynlem_Yo !
23:29.18ashanks:-)
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23:35.35kryptechashanks: you there man
23:35.45ashanksyup
23:37.14kryptechheh, check out this linux.com tutorial quote
23:37.15kryptechAlso, some kinds of information are better displayed in graphical form (some, even, can only be displayed in graphical form; like pr0n and other inherently graphical data).
23:37.36kryptechwhat ya doing ashanks
23:43.36Kynlem_kryptech: how is Paperboy going ?
23:44.28kryptechIts going great, about to release. I would be finished with my first doc if college kids would get up off their fat asses and test what they write ;-)
23:46.32kryptech' we have no desire to release a half assed product just to make people happy for 2 or 3 days until they start complaining'
23:46.47KynlemYeah, that's right
23:47.54kryptechwas that sarcasm?
23:50.50KynlemNo, there is really no point of releasing of very not complete project
23:51.47ashanksback
23:52.04kryptechI've been working 9 months on it. I hope the OSS community will appreciate it
23:52.46Kynlemkryptech: How many lines of code is it ?
23:54.20kryptecharound 6000
23:54.51KynlemHehe, cool
23:55.01kryptechis that enough?
23:55.20KynlemEnough for what ?
23:55.35kryptechI dont know, it just dosent seem like that sounds like a lot of code
23:55.47kryptechI mean, giam has to be like 50000
23:56.18KynlemDo you mean Gaim's main part or w/ plugins ?
23:56.35kryptechactually, I was just taking a random guess
23:56.47KynlemAh
23:57.23kryptechgood software is hard to develop I've learned
23:57.46kryptechits easy to write things with a bunch of shortcuts, but hard to write them where they look really nice.
23:57.55kryptechBut perhaps we pushed it too far
23:59.34kryptechyou want the CVS link, tell me what you think of the code quality

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