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| 19:05.01 | jamey | hi pb_ |
| 19:05.05 | pb_ | hi jamey |
| 19:05.16 | jamey | so far just you and I and jg |
| 19:05.34 | pb_ | okay. I'm dialling in now. |
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| 19:07.44 | nelson | Hi, ibot! |
| 19:12.09 | jamey | 0.7.2: installation instructions need h5xxx augmentation |
| 19:13.07 | jamey | xserver is missing mit screensaver extension |
| 19:13.36 | jamey | ipaq-sleep really should not dump reams of log data if it can't use mit screensaver extension |
| 19:13.44 | jamey | newer extension has a more serious bug |
| 19:14.08 | jamey | newer xserver, that is, possibly related to damage ext |
| 19:14.45 | jamey | pb_ may have to unwind to previous version of xserver with a fix to configuration script |
| 19:16.14 | jamey | old xserver tiny ipaq works except it gives colored squares on resume on h5xxx |
| 19:16.38 | jamey | other bad bug is that usb networking is hopelessly broken: locks up ipaq when docked in cradle |
| 19:21.12 | jamey | regarding 0.7.3: biggest headache is updating the html pages for the new releases |
| 19:23.53 | jamey | might be easier to make an upgrade kit for ipaqs lacking networking, but it's another documentation problem |
| 19:27.11 | jamey | nelson says: upgrade packages in the feed to fix bugs, tell people to do update;upgrade. then we'll make a cumulative upgrade tarball for networkless ipaqs |
| 19:28.09 | nelson | Phil says "but first we have to fix the bugs." Russ guffaws in appreciation |
| 19:29.52 | jamey | russ has seen cardmgr quit -- need to keep an eye on it |
| 19:30.41 | jamey | Phil observes that it is strange that we have so many new problems |
| 19:30.52 | jamey | maybe it is just that expectations are going up? |
| 19:31.57 | jamey | might be gcc related: ipaqpxa built with 3.3.2, ipaqsa built with 3.2.3 |
| 19:32.52 | jamey | opie has a bunch of h5xxx problems that are supposed to be fixed in 1.0.3 |
| 19:34.28 | jamey | h5xxx touchscreen does not work after resume |
| 19:34.40 | jamey | wlan-ng modules are empty |
| 19:34.50 | jamey | still no clear winners among the wlan drivers |
| 19:35.22 | jamey | not clear anyone really has to use wlan-ng any more, but some still use it out of habit |
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| 19:40.14 | jamey | lab: joshua working on nand and a lab image for h5xxx |
| 19:40.22 | jamey | joshua_: you want to give us a lab update? |
| 19:40.26 | nelson | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.27 | joshua_ | sure |
| 19:40.32 | joshua_ | yeah. |
| 19:40.44 | joshua_ | lab boots properly and can mount root fs on h3900 (and boot a kernel) |
| 19:40.53 | joshua_ | at least, it worked last time I checked |
| 19:41.02 | joshua_ | once I get h1900 all going, I will re-connect jtag to the h3900 |
| 19:41.31 | nelson | cool! |
| 19:41.34 | jamey | very good! |
| 19:41.35 | joshua_ | on h1900, a capacitor on the board exploded so I have no screen, but jtag, USB, and nand (the three key things for now) work right |
| 19:41.46 | joshua_ | :) |
| 19:42.01 | joshua_ | h1900 nand, I'm not certain how to go about tackling nand jffs2 stuff |
| 19:42.07 | joshua_ | jffs2 is just really bloated |
| 19:42.18 | joshua_ | there's support in the kernel, however I've been having issues getting it to work. |
| 19:42.25 | joshua_ | I'll take a look at it later today, I suppose. |
| 19:42.40 | nelson | joshua_: lean on dwmw2 if necessary. |
| 19:42.44 | joshua_ | h5400, I've been meaning to poke pb_ or jamey to test an image on it. |
| 19:42.56 | joshua_ | nelson: I was planning on doing that, although he's around at all the wrong hours. |
| 19:43.05 | nelson | joshua_: getting nand working is on his agenda, so if you need his help, he needs yours. |
| 19:43.18 | joshua_ | tglx is I suppose the more correct person to prod, I think he wrote most of the nand code |
| 19:43.21 | joshua_ | nelson: ah, spiffy |
| 19:44.00 | nelson | My point remains: don't try to fix this all on your own, there are others you can work with. |
| 19:44.05 | joshua_ | yep |
| 19:44.11 | joshua_ | I posted something to linux-mtd, have not heard back yet |
| 19:44.35 | jamey | 2.6 kernel is coming along nicely |
| 19:45.00 | joshua_ | yeah, 2.6 looks like it should be ready for unstable soon. what are the big things that are left in 2.6? |
| 19:45.27 | pb_ | power management, strongarm support, sleeve are the big ones I can think of |
| 19:45.31 | joshua_ | things that come to mind include: userland stuff for frontlight, LED control, buttonpad |
| 19:45.33 | joshua_ | ah, right |
| 19:45.57 | pb_ | obviously we could ship pxa kernels without strongarm initially, but lack of PM and sleeve are serious issues. |
| 19:46.09 | pb_ | you can control frontlight through /sys, and it wouldn't be hard to add something for LED. |
| 19:46.13 | joshua_ | agreed |
| 19:46.18 | joshua_ | ah, there's /sys control for frontlight |
| 19:46.25 | joshua_ | s/frontlight/frontlight?/ |
| 19:46.25 | joshua_ | cool |
| 19:46.45 | joshua_ | LED is not a really major thing, although buttonpad would be nice. |
| 19:46.57 | joshua_ | oh, and that's the other thing that I wanted to mention for LAB... |
| 19:47.04 | pb_ | buttonpad shouldn't be that big a deal. |
| 19:47.12 | jamey | there is sys control for frontlight/backlight/lcd/brightness/contrast |
| 19:47.40 | joshua_ | I'd like to have LAB be a replacement for bootblaster. I'd like it to detect that wince is on the machine, then detect that it booted from RAM. |
| 19:48.07 | joshua_ | if both of those conditions are met, I'd like it to prompt the user to install itself onto bootldr flash. |
| 19:48.15 | jamey | joshua_: that would be excellent -- I would like that also |
| 19:48.31 | jamey | joshua_: we need linexec to run on all the platforms |
| 19:48.41 | joshua_ | it'll then ask you to hit center, at which point it'll reset. if you hit center while you reset and WinCE's on the device, it'll install a root image. |
| 19:48.43 | joshua_ | jamey: yes. |
| 19:48.49 | joshua_ | jamey: that should not be too difficult, though. |
| 19:49.05 | joshua_ | jamey: pigeon is making good progress with linexec on StrongARM. |
| 19:49.18 | jamey | very good |
| 19:54.46 | joshua_ | hmmm |
| 19:55.41 | joshua_ | remaining in h1900 support is: initializing the LCD without smoking it, various other GPIO support, sdio support, pm support. |
| 19:55.52 | joshua_ | also a big thing that we're waiting for in LAB is PM support. |
| 20:08.34 | nelson | PM? |
| 20:10.18 | jamey | and modprobe python and then it will be complete |
| 20:13.26 | joshua_ | nelson: power management |
| 20:14.14 | nelson | Ahhh. |
| 21:37.25 | joshua_ | will anyone else be needing me here, or should I /parT? |
| 21:39.36 | pb_ | I think you can safely /parT for now. we know where to find you, after all. |
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