| 00:02.52 | purple_cow | yay, greasemonkey update for 1.5 |
| 00:03.18 | purple_cow | ooh, and it's better too! |
| 00:03.56 | scanlime | welp, looks like JayPee suckered me into giving a presentationish thingy on CIA :) |
| 00:04.23 | JayPee | you can! |
| 00:04.27 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:04.32 | scanlime | or, I could talk about something more interesting |
| 00:04.38 | JayPee | you know, you should see if you can get CIA hosted for free on some ESX box somewhere |
| 00:04.38 | scanlime | like the project's history, and how it works |
| 00:04.46 | JayPee | that'd be a great marketing whitepaper!!11! |
| 00:04.48 | scanlime | hmm, free... |
| 00:05.08 | JayPee | (actually, it really would... but I don't know who uses ESX, and who would host it) |
| 00:05.20 | JayPee | I'd be willing to bet that VMware might pay for it, though |
| 00:05.27 | scanlime | I've pondered putting ESX on a colocated box for ChipX86, purple_cow, and I to use |
| 00:05.41 | JayPee | they've been trying to get into the open source space for awhile |
| 00:05.52 | scanlime | ooh, lookit all the not-crashing my USB is doing now |
| 00:05.53 | JayPee | yeah... the only problem there is it takes pretty beefy boxes |
| 00:05.57 | JayPee | they have to be all SCSI, etc. |
| 00:06.03 | scanlime | ah |
| 00:06.31 | JayPee | (actually, that's not entirely true, but...) |
| 00:07.26 | ChipX86 | you should install ESX in the Linode UML! |
| 00:07.48 | scanlime | or I could install it on an NSLU |
| 00:07.50 | scanlime | 2 |
| 00:08.14 | scanlime | 0002de00 47 65 74 53 70 65 63 69 61 6c 46 6f 6c 64 65 72 |GetSpecialFolder| |
| 00:08.14 | scanlime | 0002de10 4c 6f 63 61 74 69 6f 6e 00 00 53 48 45 4c 4c 33 |Location..SHELL3| |
| 00:08.14 | scanlime | 0002de20 32 2e 64 6c 6c 00 10 00 43 6f 43 72 65 61 74 65 |2.dll...CoCreate| |
| 00:08.14 | scanlime | 0002de30 49 6e 73 74 61 6e 63 65 00 00 04 01 4f 6c 65 55 |Instance....OleU| |
| 00:08.14 | scanlime | 0002de40 6e 69 6e 69 74 69 61 6c 69 7a 65 00 ed 00 4f 6c |ninitialize...Ol| |
| 00:08.17 | scanlime | 0002de50 65 49 6e 69 74 69 61 6c 69 7a 65 00 6f 6c 65 33 |eInitialize.ole3| |
| 00:08.19 | scanlime | windows reads the weirdest things... |
| 00:08.36 | scanlime | what's all that crap doing on my USB disk? |
| 00:08.44 | numist | :D |
| 00:09.23 | scanlime | oh, I bet that's part of the winamp installer |
| 00:09.27 | scanlime | but I didn't even click it |
| 00:09.34 | scanlime | prolly trying to load the icon |
| 00:10.01 | galen | probably trying to read a RECYCLER folder and getting icons for all the binaries |
| 00:10.20 | scanlime | hey look, a big blob of XML for the NSIS installer |
| 00:11.16 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:11.17 | purple_cow | gotta love NSIS |
| 00:18.13 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-userlist-refactor * r9747 10/src/fe-gnome/ (userlist-window.c userlist-window.h): more implementation |
| 00:25.11 | darth_mall | moo |
| 00:26.09 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:26.11 | purple_cow | http://www.slashfood.com/2005/12/01/equipping-a-bachelor-pad/ |
| 00:27.39 | numist | excellent |
| 00:28.37 | scanlime | hehe |
| 00:30.03 | darth_mall | purple_cow: heh |
| 00:30.49 | scanlime | hrmph |
| 00:31.02 | scanlime | windows is sending a "LOCK/UNLOOK DOOR" scsi command to my flash disk |
| 00:31.41 | scanlime | I think it's having trouble resetting the device, so it's getting creative about ways to detect the device's capabilities |
| 00:34.01 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r660 10docs/design/design.tex: Fix my naughty statement about menus and layouts. |
| 00:35.04 | darth_mall | hah! Giant Microbes makes a soap dispenser now |
| 00:36.43 | scanlime | ha |
| 00:37.31 | darth_mall | apparently buying that yeast from them got me on their mailing list |
| 00:41.28 | purple_cow | hehe, that's a cool dispenser |
| 00:41.51 | purple_cow | haha, syphilis is cute |
| 00:42.30 | purple_cow | rofl |
| 00:42.37 | purple_cow | the flesh-eating virus has a knife and fork :D |
| 00:43.16 | ChipX86 | oohhhh! |
| 00:43.19 | ChipX86 | scanlime: see Rob's e-mail? |
| 00:44.02 | ChipX86 | Hosted Solutions Hard Core Gaming Day |
| 00:44.03 | scanlime | yeah |
| 00:44.07 | scanlime | :) |
| 00:44.10 | scanlime | bzflag! |
| 00:44.12 | ChipX86 | that's going to be so fun |
| 00:44.44 | ChipX86 | "Saying you want to stay at the office to do some work is NOT a good excuse not to come" |
| 00:45.04 | scanlime | :) |
| 00:46.50 | scanlime | oh no, a cache miss |
| 00:46.55 | ChipX86 | when I first started reading it, I thought "oh boy, some corporate 'get to know your co-workers' thing" |
| 00:47.23 | scanlime | heh, that doesn't really sound like rob :P |
| 00:47.27 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 00:47.33 | ChipX86 | didn't read the From: at first |
| 00:47.43 | ChipX86 | Rob's awesome |
| 00:49.01 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/data/ui/soundonlypng.png: Add Eva style "sound only" avatar icon for those bastards who don't pick one. |
| 00:54.27 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-userlist-refactor * r9748 10/src/fe-gnome/ (5 files): Switch over to the new UserlistWindow. Stuff is now Broken[tm] |
| 00:58.50 | scanlime | w99t |
| 00:58.53 | scanlime | er, w00t rather |
| 00:58.58 | purple_cow | wiggit? |
| 00:59.12 | scanlime | however you pronounce it, this is working :P |
| 01:11.07 | scanlime | ooh.. I bet I just set a new speed record |
| 01:12.43 | hardwire | alas.. no judges. |
| 01:12.56 | scanlime | well, it's not a very impressive record |
| 01:13.02 | scanlime | 15.2 Mb/s |
| 01:13.10 | scanlime | but it's still pretty fast for what this is doing |
| 01:13.24 | scanlime | TONS of room for optimization still |
| 01:13.29 | scanlime | by ws6 this thing will be smoking |
| 01:13.40 | hardwire | I figured you just raced home from work :) |
| 01:13.52 | hardwire | scanlime: so thats vm to host transfer rate? |
| 01:15.42 | scanlime | no |
| 01:19.19 | ChipX86 | man |
| 01:19.29 | ChipX86 | nothing but "Firmware error detected" errors constantly with these damn drivers |
| 01:19.36 | ChipX86 | and it occasionally locks up my laptop |
| 01:20.20 | ChipX86 | numist: it works fine for you? |
| 01:20.32 | numist | uhm? |
| 01:20.37 | numist | the wireless? |
| 01:20.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:20.44 | numist | its a gem, man |
| 01:20.44 | ChipX86 | ipw2200 |
| 01:20.48 | numist | I'm using bleeding drivers though |
| 01:20.49 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 01:20.52 | numist | ieee and ipw2200 |
| 01:21.09 | numist | no stable for mee |
| 01:22.02 | ChipX86 | lots of people with this problem on the lisserv |
| 01:22.14 | numist | what problem? |
| 01:22.17 | numist | oh hrm |
| 01:22.22 | ChipX86 | [4295757.520000] ipw2200: Firmware error detected. Restarting. |
| 01:22.24 | ChipX86 | constnantly |
| 01:22.32 | ChipX86 | sometimes the connection just dies from it |
| 01:22.36 | ChipX86 | sometimes the kernel panics |
| 01:22.36 | numist | I got the brand new latest firmware and driver... I dont think 1.0.0 builds properly on < 2.6.12 anyway |
| 01:22.54 | ChipX86 | I'm using the latest too |
| 01:23.04 | numist | how weird |
| 01:23.17 | numist | I havent used mine for more than 6 hours of uptime yet, so I may just not have come across it yet |
| 01:23.26 | numist | wep/non? |
| 01:23.33 | numist | is there a pattern? |
| 01:23.37 | ChipX86 | nope, no pattern |
| 01:23.42 | numist | thats really weird |
| 01:23.44 | ChipX86 | just happens from the time I start up |
| 01:23.45 | numist | what kernelver/distro |
| 01:23.57 | ChipX86 | ubuntu, 2.6.12 |
| 01:24.04 | numist | hrm, 'same' here, but debian |
| 01:24.44 | ChipX86 | http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=8973151&forum_id=38938 |
| 01:25.37 | ChipX86 | ooh a work-around |
| 01:25.58 | numist | hrm? |
| 01:26.02 | numist | which post |
| 01:26.11 | ChipX86 | http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=13918331 |
| 01:26.33 | numist | ah wep is causing it? |
| 01:26.46 | numist | that would explain why I havent seen the problem yet |
| 01:27.04 | ChipX86 | let's see if this fixes it |
| 01:28.04 | ChipX86 | now why is my link quality between 10-50.. |
| 01:28.24 | ChipX86 | numist: what channel do you use? |
| 01:28.32 | numist | oof, lemme check |
| 01:28.57 | numist | hum, I cant connect to my wap at home.. one moment |
| 01:30.15 | numist | I was on the UCSD campus last night and it worked with all the APs I used though, so 6 for sure |
| 01:30.19 | numist | and some others |
| 01:31.01 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:32.16 | numist | links tells me its using chan 1, but I think its choking on the web interface |
| 01:32.51 | scanlime | ooh, disk corruption |
| 01:32.54 | ChipX86 | I just switched to 1. Working better than the others so far.. |
| 01:33.00 | ChipX86 | well, maybe not |
| 01:33.45 | ChipX86 | no firmware reset errors so far :) |
| 01:35.06 | scanlime | hrmph |
| 01:35.10 | scanlime | yep.. lots of disk corruption |
| 01:35.19 | scanlime | must mean it's time to go home |
| 01:35.27 | ChipX86 | uh oh, where? |
| 01:35.39 | scanlime | you know.. my apartment.. the one in sunnyvale |
| 01:35.48 | ChipX86 | the disk corruption |
| 01:35.57 | scanlime | oh. just on my usb flash disk |
| 01:36.07 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 01:36.30 | ChipX86 | oh man, these XM channels on DirecTV rock |
| 01:37.16 | laodamas | Does anyone here know of any good places to hang out in DC? |
| 01:37.31 | laodamas | Lockheed is flying me there next week |
| 01:40.33 | laodamas | in DC next week |
| 01:53.42 | numist | video conversations are the coolest thing ever |
| 01:53.45 | numist | I'm so happy |
| 02:00.16 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r661 10docs/design/design.tex: DS gonna be made if someone else was working on menu.Menu and menu.Item |
| 02:01.56 | darth_mall | ds? |
| 02:04.55 | purple_cow | DS |
| 02:04.58 | purple_cow | isn't it obvious? |
| 02:05.01 | darth_mall | quite |
| 02:05.05 | ChipX86 | oh look at that |
| 02:05.08 | ChipX86 | lunch interview tomorrow |
| 02:05.30 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i think it's his initials |
| 02:05.33 | purple_cow | so we know who committed it |
| 02:08.38 | ChipX86 | yay, a change that shouldn't be able to cause a crash is causing a crash |
| 02:12.18 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r662 10docs/design/design.tex: Fix some spelling and grammar errors. |
| 02:13.38 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03jupiter * r663 10docs/design/design.tex: it's "textit" not "texit" |
| 02:13.40 | CIA-9 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/ (inc/game.h src/client.cpp src/game.cpp): |
| 02:13.40 | CIA-9 | opencombat: give game access to prefs |
| 02:13.40 | CIA-9 | opencombat: start showing some hud |
| 02:14.41 | purple_cow | it's be really nice if daniel would *compile* the document before committing |
| 02:15.15 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 02:15.29 | darth_mall | though I'm quite impressed at the quality of his writing |
| 02:16.07 | darth_mall | in the sense that it's largely correct information and mostly proper English |
| 02:16.30 | darth_mall | you'd never guess from hearing him talk that he could string together a coherent English sentence ^^ |
| 02:16.52 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r664 10docs/design/design.tex: little bit o' ws |
| 02:17.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: if you'd care to finish up the SceneManager (since I don't really understand it) I can take care of the application.* bits |
| 02:27.05 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah, i'll do that after i eat |
| 02:27.10 | ChipX86 | yay! |
| 02:27.30 | ChipX86 | my cell phone just notified me of a voicemail from earlier today when Regis called about the team lunch |
| 02:28.46 | kergoth | how helpful |
| 02:28.51 | ChipX86 | yep. |
| 02:28.56 | ChipX86 | technology's wonderful |
| 02:29.12 | ChipX86 | I've developed such an appreciation for it this week |
| 02:31.39 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r665 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 02:31.39 | CIA-9 | smrt: Application class. Should probably remove the exec() function from the UML |
| 02:31.39 | CIA-9 | smrt: diagram. |
| 02:32.58 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r666 10docs/design/design.tex: launchable is not a word according to my dictionary |
| 02:33.06 | darth_mall | oooh... I got the evil revision number |
| 02:33.35 | JayPee | hahah |
| 02:33.48 | JayPee | The repository is now *evil* |
| 02:35.46 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 02:37.14 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 02:39.07 | darth_mall | hi orchid |
| 02:39.27 | orchid | hiya darth_mall |
| 02:39.59 | darth_mall | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmoo |
| 02:45.50 | ChipX86 | I'm tempted to forward all my e-mail to gmail |
| 02:46.25 | scanlime | that was my solution to spamasassin eating all my linode's ram :) |
| 02:47.34 | ChipX86 | because I can't see my folders in mutt, I've stopped reading listserv e-mail |
| 02:47.40 | ChipX86 | so I just read my inbox, which is usually spam |
| 02:47.47 | ChipX86 | there's just no reason not to do this I think |
| 02:47.55 | JayPee | uh |
| 02:48.06 | JayPee | well, if you're paranoid about Google, then there's a good reason... |
| 02:48.12 | ChipX86 | well, yeah |
| 02:48.29 | ChipX86 | what I'd like is gmail for private use |
| 02:48.31 | JayPee | (there are other reasons I can think of...) |
| 02:48.36 | ChipX86 | stick a gmail-type thing on osiris and be done with it |
| 02:48.43 | JayPee | hah |
| 02:48.43 | JayPee | yeah |
| 02:49.02 | JayPee | well... the weird thing is... Gmail's searching (for the type of email I have in that account, which is mostly LJ comments) never works |
| 02:49.06 | JayPee | it never finds what I want it to find |
| 02:52.31 | darth_mall | but I don't think I've ever actually had a problem with it |
| 02:52.43 | scanlime | mmm, Fry's run |
| 02:52.47 | scanlime | darth_mall: poke |
| 02:53.16 | scanlime | darth_mall: did you see my message about that keyboard of trev's? |
| 02:53.42 | purple_cow | i've never had a problem with searching, but labels sometimes don't show me everything |
| 02:53.44 | JayPee | scanlime: what are we buying? |
| 02:54.07 | scanlime | random stuff... |
| 02:54.19 | scanlime | but most excitingly, an automatic timer for the lights on my porch |
| 02:54.20 | JayPee | aww |
| 02:54.25 | scanlime | but even more excitingly, Indiana Jones! |
| 02:54.30 | JayPee | That *is* exciting |
| 02:54.43 | JayPee | scanlime: oh, you free next Saturday? |
| 02:54.58 | scanlime | as far as I know |
| 02:55.12 | JayPee | k; I was going to have an Aqua Teen party |
| 02:55.20 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:55.21 | JayPee | The fourth DVD is coming out next... Tuesday |
| 02:55.26 | JayPee | (I should confirm that.) |
| 02:55.34 | JayPee | (Wouldn't *that* be embarassing) |
| 02:55.45 | scanlime | I'll come, if you can deal with a complete newbie that hasn't seen a single episode |
| 02:56.06 | JayPee | :-O |
| 02:56.12 | JayPee | you're uninvited. |
| 02:56.15 | scanlime | ok |
| 02:56.16 | scanlime | :P |
| 02:56.30 | JayPee | actually, no, this just means we have to have an intervention |
| 02:56.38 | JayPee | A CONCENTRATED DOSE OF AQUA TEEN |
| 02:56.43 | scanlime | oh no |
| 02:56.45 | JayPee | (which is what this is gonna be anyway, so...) |
| 02:56.48 | scanlime | ! |
| 02:56.50 | scanlime | shocking! |
| 02:56.53 | scanlime | ! |
| 02:56.56 | JayPee | heh |
| 02:58.25 | darth_mall | oooh Aqua Teen |
| 02:58.31 | darth_mall | JayPee: you cannot escape the quad laser! |
| 02:58.49 | JayPee | It's the Quad Glazer. |
| 02:58.55 | darth_mall | really? |
| 02:58.57 | JayPee | Do you want it done fast, or do you want it done right? |
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| 02:59.13 | JayPee | (well... yes, but that's from a different episode; your quotation is correct, too) |
| 02:59.18 | darth_mall | oh |
| 02:59.28 | darth_mall | I stopped watching after about the second season, I think ^^ |
| 02:59.54 | scanlime | I need to order me some wall art |
| 02:59.58 | scanlime | including a fyre print or two |
| 03:00.10 | darth_mall | my brother's got one or two Shake ringtones |
| 03:00.12 | scanlime | might have to leave wasabi running for a few weeks to render them.. or just do it at work |
| 03:00.35 | JayPee | darth_mall: third season got kinda squirly, but the fourth is pure gold |
| 03:01.44 | purple_cow | scanlime: eh, i did that big one of mine in a couple hours on my laptop |
| 03:01.57 | purple_cow | guess it really depends on the image |
| 03:03.07 | purple_cow | blarg |
| 03:03.21 | scanlime | your lappy runs a good bit faster than wasabi does at fyre |
| 03:03.23 | purple_cow | i've now received both requirements specs from the other TA for review |
| 03:03.38 | purple_cow | and we've yet to get our first comments from brita on ours >< |
| 03:03.41 | scanlime | but yeah.. prolly only a factor of 2 or 3 |
| 03:03.44 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah. the 2M cache helps :) |
| 03:03.46 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ditto |
| 03:04.59 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so I've once again forgotten why we wanted the ApplicationFactory. It seems like what we have now is fine. Can you explain to me again how the ApplicationFactory is used by the ApplicationManager? |
| 03:05.12 | scanlime | oh my god |
| 03:05.28 | scanlime | the DVD menu on this thing looks like it was done by a 12 year old in photoshop on a 386 |
| 03:05.43 | darth_mall | scanlime: you should see the menu on the last DVD my brother made ^^ |
| 03:05.48 | darth_mall | it's terrible |
| 03:05.49 | scanlime | hehe |
| 03:05.59 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's just to separate how applications are launched from the Application class |
| 03:06.45 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ohhh... so the launch() function in the Application classes is going away? |
| 03:06.45 | purple_cow | ApplicationManager maps regexs to ApplicationFactories, which return an Application when you launch |
| 03:06.45 | purple_cow | darth_mall: right |
| 03:06.47 | scanlime | I should really keep my eye out for a DVD player with HDMI |
| 03:06.48 | darth_mall | that's the piece I was missing |
| 03:07.01 | scanlime | the wiggle on wasabi's video card is getting to me |
| 03:07.03 | purple_cow | it makes it so that any Application instance corresponds to a running (or i suppose finished) process |
| 03:07.22 | darth_mall | everything is clear now |
| 03:08.34 | darth_mall | aren't all Application instances already corresponding to a running process, though? they call start() in the constructor right now |
| 03:08.58 | purple_cow | hehe, kindof ;) |
| 03:09.32 | purple_cow | there's a single instance of each type created from applications.conf |
| 03:09.37 | purple_cow | which is *not* an instance |
| 03:09.42 | purple_cow | and is just responsible for launching |
| 03:09.59 | darth_mall | really? |
| 03:11.13 | purple_cow | that's how it works in the prototype |
| 03:11.20 | purple_cow | it's crazy and convoluted |
| 03:11.29 | purple_cow | which is why i suggested the whole factory thing |
| 03:11.47 | darth_mall | I remembered you saying something about that a while back, but I don't think I completely understood |
| 03:12.09 | darth_mall | so this instance created from applications.conf is used to create new instances and launch them? |
| 03:12.44 | darth_mall | oh wow... how did I miss that |
| 03:12.54 | darth_mall | hahaha... that's awesome |
| 03:13.01 | purple_cow | s/awesome/terrible/ |
| 03:13.27 | purple_cow | we should probably change the applications.conf example in the doc to say XineFactory and MPlayerFactory |
| 03:13.28 | darth_mall | I looked at launch() in Xine.java, and my mind inserted a ``static'' keyword in there |
| 03:14.46 | purple_cow | hahaha, funny |
| 03:14.58 | purple_cow | david bowie is in an XM commercial having stolen snoop dogg's bling |
| 03:15.12 | darth_mall | yeah, it's sad >< |
| 03:16.07 | purple_cow | as commercials go, that one's not *super* terrible |
| 03:16.26 | darth_mall | still, selling out is never cool |
| 03:17.18 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03jupiter * r667 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 03:17.18 | CIA-9 | smrt: After writing a whole bunch on the topic, I have decided that having a section |
| 03:17.18 | CIA-9 | smrt: on the SceneManager is unnecessary, since it's really just an implementation |
| 03:17.18 | CIA-9 | smrt: detail and not important in terms of the high-level OO interactions |
| 03:17.31 | darth_mall | heh |
| 03:18.15 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03jupiter * r668 10docs/design/design.tex: trailing whitespace makes me cranky |
| 03:19.49 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03jupiter * r669 10docs/design/design.tex: fix a few more trailing spaces, also change Xine -> XineFactory, etc |
| 03:21.34 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r670 10docs/design/design.tex: Better commit to avoid conflicts. Some nonsense on the ApplicationManager. |
| 03:22.11 | purple_cow | darth_mall: why does figure 9 use a different arrow than the other inheritance diagrams? |
| 03:22.24 | purple_cow | oh wait, nevermind |
| 03:22.35 | purple_cow | err, yes! |
| 03:22.45 | purple_cow | ApplicationManager is abstract |
| 03:22.48 | purple_cow | err, |
| 03:22.49 | purple_cow | Factory |
| 03:22.51 | purple_cow | damnit |
| 03:23.29 | darth_mall | purple_cow: the ApplicationFactory diagram is wrong |
| 03:23.33 | darth_mall | I misunderstood how it was being used |
| 03:23.51 | darth_mall | I'll fix it in a tick |
| 03:23.57 | darth_mall | erm... s/k$// |
| 03:23.58 | darth_mall | go me |
| 03:24.05 | purple_cow | righto |
| 03:25.13 | purple_cow | looks like we're both doing well tonight |
| 03:27.14 | darth_mall | I'm so full of doing well you can't even imagine |
| 03:31.11 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r671 10docs/design/design.tex: More on the ApplicationManager. Not some of my best writing, I don't think. |
| 03:37.30 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r672 10docs/lib/figures/ApplicationFactory-uml.svg: Fixed to show inheritance. |
| 03:44.20 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r673 10docs/lib/figures/MediaCenter-uml.svg: Removed a function from here, and change arg type to registerApplication |
| 03:44.37 | numist | sooo |
| 03:45.19 | darth_mall | numist: buy me a pony |
| 03:45.28 | purple_cow | everybody loves ponies |
| 03:45.46 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.02 | numist | I love katamari |
| 03:46.02 | purple_cow | i want that game :( |
| 03:46.10 | numist | I need a lappy hdd from the seem of it |
| 03:47.34 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r674 10docs/design/design.tex: DS User interface elements edit |
| 03:47.41 | scanlime | purple_cow: I do too... was tempted to get a PS2 when they were on sale after thanksgiving |
| 03:48.27 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r675 10docs/design/design.tex: None of the other sections refer to the class in terms of its package |
| 03:49.49 | purple_cow | sigh |
| 03:49.58 | purple_cow | why did he change "pointer device" to "pointing device" ? |
| 03:50.39 | purple_cow | i wonder if he has a fear of big words |
| 03:50.41 | purple_cow | -$n \over 2$. Because every item is visible on the screen at the same time, the |
| 03:50.41 | purple_cow | -ring layout is unsuitable for menus with large numbers of items. |
| 03:50.41 | purple_cow | +$n \over 2$. Since every item is visible on the screen at the same time, the |
| 03:50.41 | purple_cow | +ring layout is not suitable for menus with large numbers of items. |
| 03:50.55 | darth_mall | oi |
| 03:51.13 | numist | hehe, I'm at a cse meeting on the campus and a professor is going through brain teasers and interview questions |
| 03:51.19 | scanlime | is he just changing random things, and hoping that eventually the detrimental changes get edited out? |
| 03:51.21 | numist | and I swear my interview questions were all a lot harder than this |
| 03:51.42 | darth_mall | why is he making these changes? |
| 03:52.14 | purple_cow | scanlime: i really don't know |
| 03:52.30 | purple_cow | most of the changes in this latest commit just make the sentences less flowey :( |
| 03:53.17 | scanlime | It's a radio for speaking with God! |
| 03:53.48 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r676 10docs/design/design.tex: DS Ring menu edit 2 |
| 03:54.45 | ChipX86 | unable to parse |
| 03:55.10 | scanlime | darth_mall: poke? |
| 03:55.19 | darth_mall | and what the hell is with this sudden use of square brackets: +from the root directory. When the user moves out of a directory [backtracking] |
| 03:55.23 | darth_mall | scanlime: que pasa? |
| 03:55.41 | scanlime | darth_mall: did you see my question about trev's keyboard? I should really let my dad know if you want it. |
| 03:56.03 | darth_mall | scanlime: didn't see it. I thought he donated his keyboards to the school |
| 03:56.20 | scanlime | not yet |
| 03:56.24 | darth_mall | oh |
| 03:56.30 | scanlime | they're still wondering if you want his nice electric keyboard |
| 03:56.40 | scanlime | dad found the power adaptor and everything |
| 03:56.40 | darth_mall | if it's full-size, yeah |
| 03:56.44 | scanlime | it is |
| 03:56.59 | CIA-9 | numi-misc: 03numist * r182 10dock-apps/ (Makefile dock-wifi/Makefile): propagate mrproper |
| 03:57.06 | darth_mall | should probably find out how much they want for it, since my funds arent' unlimited at the moment |
| 03:57.08 | scanlime | ok. I'll let him know you're interested. You just want my parents' phone number or my dad's email to coordinate pickup? |
| 03:57.20 | scanlime | I don't think they want money for it, they were going to donate it anyway |
| 03:57.38 | darth_mall | e-mail would probably be ideal |
| 03:58.57 | darth_mall | ugh... I really don't want to go back through and fix all these things Daniel changed |
| 03:59.14 | purple_cow | :( |
| 03:59.26 | kergoth | guh |
| 03:59.26 | kergoth | net connection dropping left & right |
| 03:59.49 | scanlime | svn merge is your friend |
| 04:00.03 | scanlime | well, not really |
| 04:00.17 | kergoth | svk smerge is my friend |
| 04:00.27 | scanlime | but if you booze it up enough svn merge will pretend to be your friend, before running of with some pigheaded jock |
| 04:00.28 | kergoth | svn merge is .. well... an aquaintance |
| 04:01.10 | file[laptop] | ever try svnmerge.py? |
| 04:01.13 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r677 10docs/design/design.tex: DS Ring menu edit 3 |
| 04:01.29 | scanlime | it's a good thing that kid gives his revisions numbers |
| 04:01.35 | scanlime | otherwise we wouldn't know what changed |
| 04:01.37 | purple_cow | and his initials |
| 04:02.07 | scanlime | fuck yeah.. his initials are like the duct tape that binds the universe together |
| 04:02.20 | scanlime | different shades of gray on each side |
| 04:02.29 | purple_cow | urgh |
| 04:02.35 | darth_mall | scanlime: hahahahaha |
| 04:02.36 | scanlime | gotta include that in each commit, or the repo might implode |
| 04:02.38 | purple_cow | why the fuck is he making any of these changes? |
| 04:03.00 | darth_mall | we should both e-mail him and say, "Stop! for the love of god, stop!" |
| 04:03.05 | scanlime | time for an autorevert script |
| 04:03.10 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 04:03.15 | scanlime | watch him writhe in pain next time he 7ups |
| 04:03.47 | scanlime | I wish I had a stylish hat like harrison ford |
| 04:04.13 | darth_mall | dammit Daniel! |
| 04:04.26 | darth_mall | look at the other freaking sections, we're not referring to classes in terms of their packages |
| 04:05.39 | darth_mall | -but is not limited to DVDs, music, and even live television. |
| 04:05.39 | darth_mall | +but is not limited to DVDs, music, and even live television, depending ofcourse |
| 04:05.39 | darth_mall | +on what the user has available. |
| 04:05.41 | darth_mall | brilliant |
| 04:07.10 | scanlime | neither version of that really parses :P |
| 04:07.41 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r678 10docs/design/design.tex: DS Arc Menu edit |
| 04:08.06 | scanlime | CIA needs a commit log lame-o-meter or some such |
| 04:08.43 | ChipX86 | damn you blender |
| 04:09.17 | scanlime | darth_mall: THE DESERT IS THREE WEEKS IN EVERY DIRECTION! |
| 04:09.20 | scanlime | please, eat something! |
| 04:10.33 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r679 10docs/design/design.tex: DELETED! |
| 04:10.40 | scanlime | bam! |
| 04:10.51 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 04:12.04 | darth_mall | I love how all these lines get changed because he adds a space to the end of them |
| 04:13.04 | ChipX86 | is the WRT54GS as hackable as a WRT54G? The S just means speed-booster, right? |
| 04:13.34 | purple_cow | sent |
| 04:13.36 | ChipX86 | guess it is |
| 04:13.37 | ChipX86 | huh |
| 04:13.46 | ChipX86 | I never realized this was a WRT54GS |
| 04:15.32 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r680 10docs/design/design.tex: Now who's the one who loves commas? |
| 04:16.16 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 04:16.21 | purple_cow | i've been avoiding making that comment |
| 04:16.44 | darth_mall | that's what he gets for inserting commas where they don't belong |
| 04:17.13 | darth_mall | not that he's likely to see that message |
| 04:21.54 | darth_mall | aww... I was hoping purple_cow would say, "Stop! For the love of god, stop!" ^^ |
| 04:22.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:24.25 | darth_mall | hmm... Sigur Ros is coming to the Paramount in February |
| 04:25.07 | darth_mall | and Cake will be here in January |
| 04:25.41 | darth_mall | and that's about the sum total of non-crappy concerts that clear channel is aware of |
| 04:25.47 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:25.55 | purple_cow | devotchka is playing the boulder theater in feburary |
| 04:26.18 | purple_cow | sigur ros huh |
| 04:27.02 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r681 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 04:27.02 | CIA-9 | smrt: Remove a comment that prevented a paragraph break between a figure and a |
| 04:27.02 | CIA-9 | smrt: paragraph. Also, ws DELETED! |
| 04:27.19 | darth_mall | purple_cow: Sigur Ros is probably reasonable |
| 04:27.27 | darth_mall | Paramounts a non-large venus, IIRC |
| 04:27.33 | darth_mall | oh wow |
| 04:27.44 | darth_mall | ok, first: s/Paramounts/Paramount's/ |
| 04:27.53 | darth_mall | second: s/venus/venue/ |
| 04:27.57 | darth_mall | go me |
| 04:29.19 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r682 10docs/design/design.tex: Spellcheck |
| 04:30.33 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r683 10docs/design/design.tex: Delete a half-sentence that was added above a paragraph for some reason. |
| 04:30.47 | darth_mall | ok, I think I've gotten rid of all the changes that made me want to go on a murderous rampage |
| 04:31.56 | scanlime | does daniel ever look at the commits that you three make? |
| 04:32.04 | darth_mall | I don't think he knows how |
| 04:32.11 | scanlime | you'd think he would eventually pick up on what he's doing differently.... |
| 04:32.24 | scanlime | does he use the command line svn client or tortoise? |
| 04:32.28 | scanlime | either way it's pretty easy... |
| 04:32.31 | darth_mall | comman line |
| 04:32.32 | scanlime | and he could even use CIA :) |
| 04:32.35 | darth_mall | we've got him on ubuntu |
| 04:32.43 | darth_mall | we haven't told him about CIA ^^ |
| 04:32.48 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:33.05 | darth_mall | I think all he knows how to do is svn up, svn ci, and maybe resolve conflicts |
| 04:34.12 | scanlime | harrison ford is so cool, with his truck, and his manly grunts, and his hat |
| 04:34.59 | darth_mall | ba duh? |
| 04:36.04 | darth_mall | ah yes |
| 04:36.09 | darth_mall | he is so cool |
| 04:37.37 | *** join/#tacobeam kergoth (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 04:38.23 | kergoth | comcast can go fuck themselves in the ass with a big rubber dick |
| 04:38.25 | kergoth | goddamn |
| 04:38.27 | kergoth | dropping left and right |
| 04:38.29 | kergoth | call tech support |
| 04:38.31 | kergoth | "its your router" |
| 04:38.33 | kergoth | "reboot your computer" |
| 04:38.35 | kergoth | can you put someone with af ucking clue on the phone, please? thanks |
| 04:39.11 | scanlime | rubber is awfully generous |
| 04:39.16 | scanlime | maybe.. sandpaper |
| 04:39.17 | scanlime | or a cactus |
| 04:39.32 | kergoth | yes, excellent idea |
| 04:40.12 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r684 10docs/design/design.tex: DS Arc menu edit 1 million |
| 04:40.22 | scanlime | ugh |
| 04:40.47 | scanlime | you need to program his svn client to talk back. "I will fucking REMOVE your 'DS'" |
| 04:41.08 | kergoth | hehe. fun with triggers |
| 04:41.14 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r685 10docs/design/design.tex: DS Arc menu edit 1million1 formated |
| 04:41.29 | scanlime | "Here Daniel. Here's a new *improved* version of svn. It's less error-prone than the version you're using." |
| 04:42.44 | scanlime | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/seikalyd <-- heh, it's full of java and XML ads |
| 04:42.48 | scanlime | how.. appropriate? |
| 04:43.25 | darth_mall | haha! mines all SVG ads |
| 04:44.38 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r686 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 04:44.38 | CIA-9 | smrt: I think this finishes off the Application[Factory|Manager] stuff. Made some |
| 04:44.38 | CIA-9 | smrt: changes to the Application section as well regarding my new found understanding |
| 04:44.38 | CIA-9 | smrt: of the factory idea. |
| 04:45.02 | scanlime | I feel compelled to redo CIA's CSS |
| 04:45.21 | scanlime | it's a nice layout, but there's a lot of wasted space.. and the color scheme is showing its age |
| 04:45.54 | nullpuppy | eek! ircopoly is one of the least active projects ;) |
| 04:46.08 | scanlime | you betcha |
| 04:46.32 | scanlime | somehow I expected that list to encourage people to commit really trivial things just to get their project off of it :) |
| 04:46.38 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 04:46.46 | darth_mall | bad Daniel! check your e-mail |
| 04:46.49 | nullpuppy | I may do that ;) |
| 04:47.07 | scanlime | but.. there's a reason picogui is way at the top |
| 04:47.11 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 04:47.20 | darth_mall | scanlime: because picogui rocks hard tasty abs? |
| 04:47.23 | nullpuppy | trying to avoid more emails about it? :) |
| 04:47.27 | scanlime | hard *and* tasty |
| 04:47.42 | scanlime | GO INDIANA, PUNCH THAT NAZI! |
| 04:47.48 | scanlime | what a great movie |
| 04:48.48 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r687 10docs/design/design.tex: reverted a change because it sounded better the way it was. |
| 04:48.55 | darth_mall | fuckin' Nazis |
| 04:48.57 | darth_mall | damn straight |
| 04:49.37 | darth_mall | ugh |
| 04:49.41 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03jupiter * r688 10docs/design/design.tex: expand ApplicationFactory description a bit |
| 04:49.45 | darth_mall | he changed "more in-depth" to "more-in-depth" |
| 04:49.52 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:50.12 | purple_cow | he really should check his email :( |
| 04:50.21 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r689 10docs/design/design.tex: it's "more in-depth" |
| 04:51.22 | darth_mall | I vote for removing his commit access until after the paper is due ^^ |
| 04:52.21 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r690 10docs/design/design.tex: DS cityscape menu edit |
| 04:52.40 | darth_mall | DAMMIT! |
| 04:52.50 | darth_mall | this is getting obnoxious |
| 04:53.51 | darth_mall | oh my god |
| 04:53.57 | darth_mall | I think he just changed back something I changed a minute ago |
| 04:54.14 | kergoth | i'd kill his access |
| 04:55.10 | purple_cow | argh |
| 04:55.21 | purple_cow | he reverted my changes too |
| 04:55.28 | purple_cow | i bet he just kept his editor open and saved over his updated file |
| 04:55.31 | purple_cow | >< |
| 04:55.44 | darth_mall | that's probably right |
| 04:55.54 | darth_mall | either that or he's just an ass |
| 04:56.07 | purple_cow | darth_mall: care to phone him? i'm not sure i can talk with him right now without saying something impolitic |
| 04:56.11 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r691 10docs/design/design.tex: DS state controller edi |
| 04:56.20 | darth_mall | I suppose |
| 04:56.35 | purple_cow | urk, what's he doing changing the state controller |
| 04:56.53 | ChipX86 | what's DS? |
| 04:57.00 | file[laptop] | his initials |
| 04:57.01 | scanlime | his initials :P |
| 04:57.10 | ChipX86 | ohh boy |
| 04:57.24 | purple_cow | oh, he changed "This class" to "The \texttt{StateController}" |
| 04:57.26 | purple_cow | sigh |
| 04:57.29 | scanlime | I bet he invented that weird gameboy too |
| 04:57.39 | darth_mall | purple_cow: voice mail |
| 04:57.42 | purple_cow | it's a good thing he's making useful edits |
| 04:57.45 | purple_cow | darth_mall: urk |
| 04:57.52 | darth_mall | take away his access |
| 04:58.08 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r692 10docs/design/design.tex: DS state controller edit 2 formatted |
| 04:58.17 | scanlime | we need a special HTTP response just for him |
| 04:58.19 | darth_mall | we shouldn't have to be fighting him because he doesn't know how to update without overwriting our changes |
| 04:58.38 | scanlime | "470 Commit Denied, Asshat" |
| 04:58.55 | darth_mall | haha |
| 04:59.02 | kergoth | i like that |
| 04:59.52 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'm going to head home. care to email him explaining why he can't commit? ;) |
| 05:13.59 | scanlime | hmm |
| 05:14.41 | scanlime | aw, x-g crash |
| 05:14.45 | scanlime | maybe I should enable core dumps... |
| 05:14.53 | scanlime | http://www.google.com/analytics/index.html |
| 05:14.55 | scanlime | crashed while I was trying to paste that URL |
| 05:15.28 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r693 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 05:15.28 | CIA-9 | smrt: Get rid of some really strange things that got into the document because of the |
| 05:15.28 | CIA-9 | smrt: commit battle. |
| 05:17.32 | ChipX86 | yay, can't log into BoA |
| 05:18.45 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r694 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 05:18.45 | CIA-9 | smrt: \textt is not a command, and I wasn't talking about the Menu class, I was |
| 05:18.45 | CIA-9 | smrt: talking about the menus package. I meant what I said. |
| 05:20.34 | purple_cow | blahhhhh |
| 05:20.37 | purple_cow | so much stuff to due |
| 05:20.41 | purple_cow | err, do |
| 05:21.31 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r695 10docs/design/design.tex: Another small change back to the way I had it initially. |
| 05:21.37 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ouch |
| 05:22.15 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 05:22.30 | purple_cow | hmm, including 1 thing at 11:55 tonight |
| 05:22.36 | purple_cow | maybe i should start on that one... |
| 05:22.51 | scanlime | I think the sound effect in Temple of Doom when the plane runs out of gas is the exact same one they used in Star Wars when the hyperdrive in the Millennium Falcon was broken |
| 05:23.35 | JayPee | scanlime: plz to be writing an essay on this. kthx. |
| 05:23.54 | scanlime | JayPee: will do. The world must hear the filmic significance of discoveries such as these |
| 05:24.09 | kergoth | i love how occasionally i hear the original Doom "door opening" sound effect |
| 05:24.17 | kergoth | on cartoons and movies and other such places |
| 05:24.28 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r696 10docs/design/design.tex: trailing whitespace: DELETED! |
| 05:24.38 | purple_cow | good riddance |
| 05:24.44 | darth_mall | so is it "subclassing" or "sub-classing" ? |
| 05:24.49 | darth_mall | aspell doesn't like either |
| 05:24.55 | purple_cow | i always do "subclassing" |
| 05:25.06 | purple_cow | since i use "subclass" as word |
| 05:25.08 | JayPee | a pox on aspell. |
| 05:25.18 | darth_mall | purple_cow: me too |
| 05:26.06 | purple_cow | JayPee: hehe |
| 05:28.26 | scanlime | why is Unicode broken on cia again? |
| 05:30.16 | darth_mall | karma? |
| 05:30.28 | purple_cow | dogma. |
| 05:31.01 | purple_cow | maybe even magma |
| 05:31.23 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9749 10cia/conf/flapjack_navi_cx.tac: Remove extra newlines in the javascript, for consistency |
| 05:31.26 | scanlime | just stay away from #pragma |
| 05:31.31 | darth_mall | oooh... magma |
| 05:31.32 | purple_cow | yessir |
| 05:31.47 | darth_mall | purple_cow: so what do you have that's due at 11:55? |
| 05:31.56 | purple_cow | darth_mall: listening assignment for asian musics |
| 05:32.13 | purple_cow | gotta listen to this silly kabuki theater piece a whole bunch and answer a few pages of questions |
| 05:32.58 | darth_mall | oooh fun |
| 05:33.23 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you should go to you Native American Mystical Music class wearing a kabuki mask ^^ |
| 05:33.37 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:35.24 | kergoth | "Aint my job. To fuck you on your birthday. Aint my job. To fuck you on your birthday, anymore." |
| 05:35.28 | kergoth | yay bloodhound gang :P |
| 05:35.41 | scanlime | hum |
| 05:35.53 | scanlime | the CIA server is indeed setting the encoding to UTF-8 in the HTTP headers: |
| 05:35.55 | scanlime | Content-type: text/html; charset="utf-8" |
| 05:36.00 | scanlime | but firefox is defaulting to latin-1 |
| 05:36.02 | scanlime | grr |
| 05:36.54 | darth_mall | bad firefox, you suck! |
| 05:37.05 | darth_mall | well, my commit sure is having fun not doing anything... |
| 05:37.11 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r697 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 05:37.12 | CIA-9 | smrt: Not sure where that paragraph break came from. If it was me, I must've been on |
| 05:37.12 | CIA-9 | smrt: crack. Now the paragraphs explaining the context are a little more sensical |
| 05:37.15 | darth_mall | that's better |
| 05:39.00 | purple_cow | hrm, ugh |
| 05:39.13 | purple_cow | i've got a paper due for american indian music on the 8th that i haven't even thought about yet |
| 05:39.19 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9750 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Template.py: Add a <meta http-equiv...> tag to set the character set to UTF-8. Firefox seems to be ignoring the encoding Nouvelle is already sending in the HTTP headers |
| 05:39.50 | purple_cow | if the next two weeks don't kill me, they'll probably leave me permanently maimed |
| 05:44.25 | darth_mall | or stronger? |
| 05:45.23 | purple_cow | definitely not |
| 05:45.46 | purple_cow | maybe drunker |
| 05:46.03 | JayPee | hahah |
| 05:47.37 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ooh ooh! me too! |
| 05:53.17 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9751 10cia/doc/README: Some trivial updates to the README. 私はガラスを食べられます。それは私を傷つけません。 This is actually a dummy commit to test Unicode end-to-end through CIA. |
| 05:53.27 | scanlime | sweet |
| 05:53.30 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 05:53.54 | nullpuppy | scanlime: you know of any decent javascript tutorial type thingies? |
| 05:54.13 | scanlime | I don't think there are any :P |
| 05:54.22 | scanlime | just avoid webmaster-oriented crap like the plague |
| 05:54.26 | scanlime | find a real language reference |
| 05:54.30 | nullpuppy | ok |
| 05:54.52 | nullpuppy | every site i find that has info is all about mouseovers and popups :/ |
| 05:55.10 | scanlime | hrmph |
| 05:55.15 | darth_mall | scanlime: what did that say? |
| 05:55.21 | scanlime | that unicode went through beautifully to IRC, but the web page just ate it |
| 05:55.33 | darth_mall | eating what now? |
| 05:55.35 | nullpuppy | it looks like garballygook here |
| 05:55.41 | nullpuppy | but then.. i'm in putty... |
| 05:55.55 | darth_mall | guh... my katakana is horrible |
| 05:56.06 | purple_cow | lookit all the pretty characters... |
| 05:56.07 | scanlime | darth_mall: "I can eat glass and it doesn't hurt me." |
| 05:56.11 | darth_mall | glass |
| 05:56.26 | darth_mall | I didn't see the tick on the ka |
| 05:56.43 | darth_mall | I was wondering what "karasu" was |
| 05:56.59 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:57.29 | darth_mall | didn't recognize the verb "to hurt" |
| 05:57.53 | darth_mall | I need to start taking Japanese again |
| 05:57.56 | darth_mall | it was so much fun |
| 05:57.58 | darth_mall | especially writing it |
| 05:58.01 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:58.11 | scanlime | bleh |
| 06:00.26 | darth_mall | purple_cow: I just forwarded you Daniel's reply about the commit access |
| 06:00.46 | scanlime | how's the damage? |
| 06:01.08 | darth_mall | I don't think he's upset |
| 06:01.16 | darth_mall | apparently he just spent the last 30 mins trying to commit ^^ |
| 06:01.29 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:01.34 | scanlime | hah |
| 06:01.43 | darth_mall | that's what he gets for being a 'tard and unreachable |
| 06:02.17 | darth_mall | ooh... Micahpants was momentarily on AIM |
| 06:02.38 | scanlime | clicked the wrong thing :P |
| 06:02.44 | JayPee | Micahpants? |
| 06:02.50 | JayPee | That sounds lewd. |
| 06:03.15 | scanlime | darn straight |
| 06:03.34 | purple_cow | oh, so about my silly american indian music class |
| 06:04.04 | purple_cow | he played a bjork track today because of me :) |
| 06:04.10 | kergoth | nice |
| 06:05.08 | scanlime | hm, expat gets cranky about unicode inside element names. Silly XML standard... |
| 06:05.13 | purple_cow | most of the class was pretty unresponsive to it though |
| 06:05.20 | purple_cow | (one of the less-accessible tracks from medulla) |
| 06:05.43 | scanlime | aw |
| 06:06.04 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 06:06.54 | darth_mall | yay bujork! |
| 06:08.26 | darth_mall | it still tickles me on occaision that these guys made it onto the Batman Forever ost |
| 06:08.30 | purple_cow | yoshimi? |
| 06:08.34 | darth_mall | purple_cow: quite |
| 06:08.58 | purple_cow | such an awesome song/album |
| 06:09.00 | darth_mall | she is a blackbelt in karate ^^ |
| 06:09.21 | purple_cow | o/~ those evil-natured robots / they're programmed to destroy us / she's gotta be strong to fight them / so she's takin' lots of vitamins... o/~ |
| 06:11.32 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r698 10docs/design/design.tex: |
| 06:11.32 | CIA-9 | smrt: Move the AppFactory stuff in the design overview to the application manager |
| 06:11.32 | CIA-9 | smrt: section because it makes more sense. Also moved the figure. |
| 06:12.47 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9752 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Target.py: |
| 06:12.47 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: We have to re-encode as UTF-8 before sending a message to the ring buffer, for |
| 06:12.47 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: expat's sake. This is an extension of an already-annoying kludge, but it might |
| 06:12.47 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: fix unicode message storage. Μπορώ να φάω σπασμένα γυαλιά χωρίς να πάθω τίποτα. |
| 06:12.48 | darth_mall | "One More Robot - Sympathy 3000-21" has such a great bass line |
| 06:14.18 | purple_cow | that's my second-favorite song :) |
| 06:15.13 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9753 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Target.py: It helps if we don't cast from unicode to utf-8 via ascii. Testing again... Могу јести стакло а да ми не шкоди. |
| 06:15.45 | darth_mall | heh |
| 06:16.00 | JayPee | scanlime: STOP CRAPPING IN THE CHANNEL |
| 06:16.08 | JayPee | What do you think we speak? Swalinese? |
| 06:16.16 | scanlime | JayPee: it's my channel damnit |
| 06:16.20 | JayPee | oh |
| 06:16.20 | JayPee | yeah |
| 06:16.24 | JayPee | dammit! |
| 06:16.29 | kergoth | hehe, yay unicode! |
| 06:16.34 | scanlime | and it'd look all pretty and stuff if you had a decent IRC client ;) |
| 06:16.38 | kergoth | it does :) |
| 06:16.42 | JayPee | heh |
| 06:16.44 | JayPee | probably true. |
| 06:16.46 | JayPee | go irssi! |
| 06:17.10 | darth_mall | if I have a daughter, I am so naming her Yoshimi |
| 06:17.23 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that is such an excellent idea |
| 06:17.24 | darth_mall | imagine that poor kids childhood |
| 06:17.35 | darth_mall | going through public school with a name like "Yoshimi Sheehan" |
| 06:17.38 | purple_cow | darth_mall: better than Korea ;-) |
| 06:18.02 | purple_cow | considering that Korea won't even get a last name |
| 06:18.02 | darth_mall | I could change the spelling of my last name to make it less obvious |
| 06:18.09 | darth_mall | Yoshimi Shien |
| 06:18.47 | purple_cow | or even shi-han |
| 06:18.58 | darth_mall | that's not how it's pronounced dammit |
| 06:19.03 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:19.16 | kergoth | darth_mall: bloodhound gang has a song on their new cd "Ralph Wiggum" |
| 06:19.17 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:20.05 | darth_mall | I love that my Japanese teachers do a better job pronouncing an Irish name than most people in this country ^^ |
| 06:20.05 | darth_mall | yay |
| 06:20.05 | darth_mall | does it taste like burning? |
| 06:21.34 | purple_cow | hmm, slimspace|away hasn't been copied on any of this discussion |
| 06:21.53 | darth_mall | I didn't cc him because you didn't |
| 06:22.29 | darth_mall | therefore... you win! |
| 06:22.36 | purple_cow | well, for those first couple it didn't really make sense because you and i were the only ones working on it |
| 06:22.54 | purple_cow | but now we're getting into discussion with some real meaning to it other than just scolding him |
| 06:23.29 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 06:23.57 | darth_mall | scolding is fun |
| 06:24.23 | purple_cow | sooooo |
| 06:24.29 | purple_cow | i thinks i'm gonna take the job |
| 06:25.11 | darth_mall | at vmware? |
| 06:25.30 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 06:25.33 | darth_mall | sweet |
| 06:25.34 | numist | yay next time I visit I can have sushi with scanlime, purple_cow, AND ChipX86 :D |
| 06:25.36 | purple_cow | too much damn money |
| 06:25.40 | darth_mall | heh |
| 06:25.48 | scanlime | hehe |
| 06:26.32 | scanlime | purple_cow: I know it will be hard to leave colorado.. but at least you know a couple people out here :) |
| 06:27.13 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 06:27.18 | purple_cow | whatever will i do with my winter coats? |
| 06:28.01 | scanlime | wear them when it drops below 60? |
| 06:28.04 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:28.36 | lurgy | purple_cow: congrats :) |
| 06:28.50 | scanlime | damn you, twisted. It's hard to debug unicode problems when the logs occasionally puke on unicode text |
| 06:31.00 | purple_cow | woo, i think i'm done with this stupid assignment |
| 06:34.17 | scanlime | oof.. probably a bad sign when the server hangs |
| 06:35.29 | scanlime | ooh, a TWISTD-CRASH.log |
| 06:35.32 | scanlime | never seen that before |
| 06:37.34 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r699 10docs/design/design.tex: Try a new summary. I'm not convinced it's better, just different... |
| 06:38.09 | purple_cow | woo, assignment submitted a whole 15 minutes early! |
| 06:38.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you rock! |
| 06:39.03 | purple_cow | i really do |
| 06:39.54 | scanlime | bleh |
| 06:40.05 | scanlime | I bet they fixed this problem in more recent versions of twisted |
| 06:40.18 | scanlime | but twisted is so awful at backward compatibility that I'm afraid to upgrade |
| 06:41.06 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03evan * r700 10docs/design/design.tex: Couple more sentences |
| 06:41.15 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 06:41.29 | purple_cow | looks like it's going to be totally feasable to be a full-time student without actually going to any classes |
| 06:41.29 | darth_mall | I hate writing summaries for these things |
| 06:42.02 | purple_cow | i think that accomplishment shall make me a king among men |
| 06:42.16 | darth_mall | or a man among seaweed |
| 06:42.25 | purple_cow | also good |
| 06:44.28 | purple_cow | yay, unit 3000-21 |
| 06:47.15 | scanlime | I love these old ILM composite shots, where the lighting is so obviously different on the foreground and background |
| 06:48.46 | purple_cow | wheeeee |
| 06:48.49 | purple_cow | i can't wait for christmas |
| 06:49.02 | purple_cow | i's prolly getting an erhu :D |
| 07:03.21 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9754 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Target.py: |
| 07:03.21 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: Remove the FIXME on the somewhat silly UTF-8 -> SAX -> DOM -> unicode -> UTF-8 |
| 07:03.21 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: -> SAX trip that messages take when they're first submitted. This is actually |
| 07:03.22 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: somewhat necessary because of normalizations that the Message object applies at |
| 07:03.22 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: the DOM level. Also, another Unicode test: אני יכול לאכול זכוכית וזה לא מזיק לי. |
| 07:03.23 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: (but probably without RTL) |
| 07:04.06 | scanlime | oooh..that fixed it |
| 07:04.20 | scanlime | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/navi-misc/cia/.message/12bf9 |
| 07:05.09 | kergoth | yay |
| 07:05.53 | scanlime | I have to remember to test this stuff more often |
| 07:06.06 | scanlime | I spent all this time a while back making sure that all of CIA was unicode-clean |
| 07:06.13 | scanlime | that big database change broke it |
| 07:06.34 | numist | aw |
| 07:06.47 | scanlime | it's always silly little things, like casting messages into str() instead of unicode(), or passing unicode objects instead of utf-8 text to expat |
| 07:12.04 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r701 10docs/design/design.tex: DS edit to design overview mostly testing, please work |
| 07:12.28 | scanlime | I thought you disabled his account? |
| 07:19.13 | purple_cow | i dedisabled it after some email discussion |
| 07:20.43 | scanlime | I figured you'd wait until at least he learned how to write log messages ;) |
| 07:22.13 | purple_cow | i honestly don't care about the log messages that much |
| 07:22.16 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@71-211-160-89.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 07:22.35 | purple_cow | i care about him not reverting our changes and working on useful stuff rather than just editing text to sound clunkier |
| 07:25.10 | purple_cow | mostly the reverting thing |
| 07:27.38 | scanlime | heh. PG&E just emailed me a $0 electric bill |
| 07:28.39 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 07:28.44 | purple_cow | this episode of star trek has belly dancing! |
| 07:28.57 | scanlime | ugh.. http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/helloworld |
| 07:29.14 | purple_cow | haha |
| 07:29.22 | purple_cow | i'm guessing that's not GNU hello |
| 07:29.32 | scanlime | either way, I'm deleting it ;) |
| 07:30.03 | purple_cow | oh no! scotty is getting hypnotized by her navel! |
| 07:30.14 | scanlime | hehe |
| 07:34.29 | ChipX86 | who runs jbot in here? |
| 07:34.39 | lurgy | ~moose |
| 07:34.41 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, moose is moose-penis |
| 07:34.46 | lurgy | ? |
| 07:34.50 | ChipX86 | because its logging needs to be disabled.... |
| 07:34.53 | ChipX86 | *grrr* |
| 07:35.08 | scanlime | could just ban it again ;) |
| 07:36.51 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it's tim riker's bot |
| 07:36.57 | purple_cow | why does logging need to be disabled? |
| 07:37.21 | ChipX86 | I'll talk about it not in here :P |
| 07:39.09 | numist | I am? |
| 07:40.50 | ChipX86 | irc logs automatically going up on public sites and being indexed by bots is bad. |
| 07:42.42 | numist | :( |
| 07:43.48 | ChipX86 | actually, I think I'll ignore said friend and wait until he calms down |
| 07:48.58 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 07:50.01 | ChipX86 | can't wait for the week to be over |
| 08:06.38 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r702 10docs/design/design.tex: DS edit to classes, thank god nobody else is trying to commit |
| 08:08.44 | purple_cow | hah |
| 08:09.49 | scanlime | wow |
| 08:13.28 | purple_cow | it's also a good thing he's not doing any useful writing |
| 08:13.35 | purple_cow | and is still just shuffling words around |
| 08:13.56 | scanlime | heh, well, he's got to have an impressive looking changelog |
| 08:14.01 | scanlime | you think he knows about svn blame? |
| 08:14.07 | ChipX86 | revert each change :) |
| 08:15.48 | scanlime | The Last Crusade was definitely the best of the three |
| 08:17.44 | purple_cow | oof |
| 08:17.53 | purple_cow | ``Also, |
| 08:17.53 | purple_cow | navigating between menu items is very intuitive, even in the absence of a pointing device. |
| 08:17.53 | purple_cow | '' |
| 08:18.18 | scanlime | what was it before? |
| 08:18.19 | purple_cow | i do believe i originally wrote that to say ``In addition, navigation between menu items is very intuitive, even in the absence of a pointer device'' |
| 08:18.42 | scanlime | I have to admit, I'm more used to 'pointing device' than 'pointer device' :P |
| 08:19.03 | purple_cow | really? |
| 08:19.29 | scanlime | in fact, I've never even heard 'pointer device' before |
| 08:19.57 | kergoth | same. i think of the cursor when reading "pointer", but the mouse when reading "pointing device". |
| 08:19.58 | purple_cow | "pointer" is what X calls it |
| 08:20.27 | purple_cow | anyhow, pointer vs pointing is pretty trivial |
| 08:20.33 | purple_cow | my real problem with that is the "Also, ..." |
| 08:20.44 | scanlime | yeah |
| 08:20.55 | scanlime | you should just call them "non-buttonful input devices" |
| 08:21.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:21.02 | scanlime | except, that they do have buttons |
| 08:21.17 | purple_cow | ok, slidey input devices |
| 08:21.26 | scanlime | "linear multidimensional sen-sors" |
| 08:21.39 | purple_cow | :D |
| 08:21.53 | purple_cow | ok, i've gotta get to bed |
| 08:22.03 | purple_cow | stupid 8am freaking class |
| 08:22.09 | kergoth | ick |
| 08:22.31 | purple_cow | at least tomorrow should be the last 8am class for the rest of my life |
| 08:23.41 | scanlime | hmm.. end of the semester coming up for you guys? |
| 08:24.16 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 08:24.25 | purple_cow | hmm, yeah, this document needs some cleanup |
| 08:24.57 | numist | scanlime | ChipX86: ping |
| 08:25.01 | purple_cow | ``This class provides |
| 08:25.01 | purple_cow | functions for starting instances of an application. It extends Java’s Thread class so that these |
| 08:25.01 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.34 | scanlime | purple_cow: I really wouldn't sweat the grammar all that much.. Bruce never seemed to care that much |
| 08:26.00 | purple_cow | scanlime: that's not a grammar problem |
| 08:26.02 | scanlime | he's basically happy as long as it looks correct (whether it is or not) and it has pretty pictures |
| 08:26.08 | purple_cow | starting processes in separate threads is a problem |
| 08:26.09 | scanlime | well, I'm just saying |
| 08:26.19 | ChipX86 | numist: pong |
| 08:26.33 | scanlime | 50% of our documentation ended up being lame cut&paste crap, and he still loved it |
| 08:26.44 | numist | ChipX86: you want another referral bonus? |
| 08:26.48 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 08:26.51 | ChipX86 | numist: always |
| 08:26.53 | numist | drobbins seems like he's underwhelmed by microsoft |
| 08:26.58 | purple_cow | we've got a few files that we \input ;) |
| 08:27.06 | numist | 00:23:11 +<numist> drobbins: hope their making it up in the cheque or something |
| 08:27.09 | numist | 00:23:35 +<+drobbins> numist: well, they do pay me |
| 08:27.12 | numist | 00:23:44 +<+drobbins> numist: but so would many other jobs |
| 08:27.17 | scanlime | purple_cow: that class would have been so much easier for us if we used latex instead of word... |
| 08:27.18 | ChipX86 | numist: what kind of work does he do? |
| 08:27.26 | numist | ChipX86: he created gentoo |
| 08:27.30 | numist | ChipX86: I dont think it matters much |
| 08:27.35 | ChipX86 | ohh him |
| 08:27.50 | ChipX86 | do you know him personally? |
| 08:28.09 | purple_cow | so he's the one responsible for me wasting so much of my life? |
| 08:28.12 | scanlime | could make it his problem to deal with all the crazy linux distros out there :P |
| 08:28.24 | ChipX86 | I can definitely put his resume in, though I'd feel weird just messaging him out of the blue asking for it |
| 08:28.27 | purple_cow | obviously we should just all switch to red flag linux |
| 08:28.35 | scanlime | or CentOS |
| 08:29.26 | purple_cow | i don't think you can get more ideologically pure than red flag |
| 08:29.33 | purple_cow | i mean, it's open source software, produced by communists! |
| 08:30.20 | scanlime | hehe |
| 08:31.32 | scanlime | hmm.. I hope these ad revenue trends continue |
| 08:31.36 | scanlime | $4.71 today |
| 08:31.38 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 08:31.43 | scanlime | if that keeps up I can get a nice server indeed |
| 08:31.47 | ChipX86 | I'm curious as to whether I'd generate anything on my site |
| 08:31.52 | numist | ChipX86: freenode aquaintence only, but I'm thinking headhunter or something, he'd be a really god catch, and microsoft is a stifling place for a guy like him to work |
| 08:31.56 | ChipX86 | tempted to do it just for the heck of it |
| 08:32.04 | scanlime | ChipX86: it's easy to set up |
| 08:32.30 | ChipX86 | numist: if you want to bring up the idea and mention me (public or private, whatever) I can take it from there |
| 08:33.02 | scanlime | do the vmware HR people get commisions for everyone they hire? |
| 08:33.09 | ChipX86 | probably |
| 08:33.49 | ChipX86 | me neither |
| 08:35.07 | scanlime | somehow they manage to turn my code into free food, electricity, and paychecks for my coworkers and I.... so that's enough for me |
| 08:35.36 | ChipX86 | same |
| 08:36.04 | scanlime | hm. I wonder if they've set up my gelco account yet. I bet when they said I'd get a card in the mail, they meant that mailbox at work that I never check |
| 08:36.23 | ChipX86 | actual mail, I think |
| 08:36.26 | ChipX86 | I got it here at home |
| 08:36.32 | scanlime | ah |
| 08:38.07 | numist | ChipX86: you got it |
| 08:40.05 | ChipX86 | what'd you say? |
| 08:41.53 | numist | looks like drobbins is a bit interested |
| 08:41.58 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 08:42.03 | ChipX86 | show him the pic of the place :) |
| 08:42.04 | numist | and by a bit, I mean you might get a msg spoonish |
| 08:42.13 | numist | gimme info, I can always use more selling points |
| 08:42.28 | ChipX86 | http://www.chipx86.com/gallery/v/VMware/porter/IMG_2223.jpg.html |
| 08:43.23 | ChipX86 | we support open source, the UI team even released a bunch of very useful widgets under the MIT license.. relaxing atmosphere, flexible hours.. |
| 08:43.42 | numist | nod |
| 08:43.53 | ChipX86 | not sure what you've said or want to say |
| 08:44.15 | numist | ChipX86: should I /invite him in here? |
| 08:44.36 | ChipX86 | up to scanlime. It's more his channel than mine :) |
| 08:45.06 | ChipX86 | sure then, send him in :) |
| 08:45.08 | ChipX86 | I want a milkshake |
| 08:45.17 | scanlime | I want it to stop raining |
| 08:45.20 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:45.25 | scanlime | I want my dry colorado weather back |
| 08:45.45 | ChipX86 | ooh lunch interview tomorrow. I love doing those. Good free food :) |
| 08:45.54 | scanlime | I've got one Tuesday :) |
| 08:45.59 | ChipX86 | that means I should probably go in before 12 |
| 08:46.03 | numist | invited |
| 08:48.10 | numist | we'll see how that goes |
| 08:48.13 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 08:49.46 | *** join/#tacobeam drobbins (n=drobbins@microsoft/drobbins) |
| 08:49.47 | ChipX86 | scanlime: beer bash is at Porter this week, right? |
| 08:49.51 | ChipX86 | hey drobbins |
| 08:49.56 | drobbins | hiya |
| 08:50.17 | numist | onion bahjis tmo? >_> |
| 08:50.26 | numist | <3 bofh |
| 08:51.28 | numist | and it gets suddenly quiet |
| 08:51.31 | numist | brilliant |
| 08:51.35 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:51.58 | ChipX86 | so drobbins, I guess numist told you a little about VMware? |
| 08:52.01 | numist | ChipX86: did you ever get your package/connected to vmnet? |
| 08:53.06 | JayPee | wait, drobbins is in here?! |
| 08:53.08 | ChipX86 | yeah, got UPS to redeliver it to the main office. Not sure what you mean about the vmnet part? |
| 08:53.10 | drobbins | ChipX86: yep |
| 08:53.27 | ChipX86 | drobbins: cool. I'm not sure what he's told you so far :) |
| 08:53.53 | ChipX86 | JayPee: this is where the cool people hang out, you know that! |
| 08:54.29 | scanlime | ChipX86: who knows... I hope it's at porter :P |
| 08:54.52 | ChipX86 | scanlime: it was at Legato last time and I think Hillview before. It feels like it hasn't been at porter in ages |
| 08:54.54 | drobbins | ChipX86: he's showing off the campus |
| 08:55.03 | JayPee | ChipX86: oh dammit... I forgot. |
| 08:55.03 | drobbins | ChipX86: he sent me a link to a nice jpg |
| 08:55.04 | ChipX86 | drobbins: ah. Nice, isn't it? :) |
| 08:55.07 | drobbins | yes |
| 08:55.11 | numist | that was chippy's site |
| 08:55.18 | numist | I only wish my place looked like that |
| 08:55.34 | drobbins | ChipX86: I've come to the realization that I'm poorly networked |
| 08:55.51 | drobbins | so I'd figure I'd join here and say hi |
| 08:55.58 | ChipX86 | well you're definitely welcome to hang out |
| 08:56.01 | numist | networking for the win |
| 08:56.04 | JayPee | hahah... poorly networked. |
| 08:56.17 | JayPee | drobbins: we met once, but I doubt you remember |
| 08:56.18 | numist | JayPee: its true though.. damn important to know people |
| 08:56.24 | JayPee | numist: agreed |
| 08:56.28 | drobbins | JayPee: online or in person? |
| 08:56.29 | ChipX86 | this is pretty much a general BS channel :) Random conversations, occasional rants, the usual |
| 08:56.53 | numist | but its intelligent |
| 08:57.03 | numist | as opposed to #omgsweet |
| 08:57.08 | JayPee | drobbins: you were giving a talk at Stanford on Gentoo; you were late because you had just bought a vinyl album of... uhh... Diva, by Annie Lennox, IIRC. |
| 08:57.10 | numist | or #stupid-ideas |
| 08:57.16 | ChipX86 | scanline and I both work at VMware. purple_cow was just offered a job. We're taking over |
| 08:57.18 | JayPee | (and if I do remember correctly, that's quite pathetic of me.) |
| 08:57.20 | numist | JayPee: damn you have a memory |
| 08:57.26 | drobbins | JayPee: yep |
| 08:57.49 | ChipX86 | numist: I don't know, there are a number of stupid ideas in here |
| 08:57.51 | drobbins | JayPee: we went to a hifi shop, and on the way to Stanford I got my friend to confess that he really didn't know how to get there |
| 08:58.01 | JayPee | hah! |
| 08:58.03 | numist | ChipX86: true, but their mostly darth_mall's, and they're mostly sarcastic :) |
| 08:58.06 | drobbins | JayPee: we ended up being late, sorry about that :/ |
| 08:58.06 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 08:58.16 | JayPee | well, I enjoyed the talk... |
| 08:58.21 | drobbins | thanks |
| 08:58.24 | JayPee | I brought a bunch of VMware people with me |
| 08:58.28 | drobbins | I'm glad to hear it |
| 08:58.43 | JayPee | It was cool because the week before (or the week after, can't remmeber), they had the RedHat people |
| 08:58.47 | JayPee | and talk about complete assholes... |
| 08:58.51 | JayPee | they just didn't get it |
| 08:58.55 | drobbins | week before I think |
| 08:58.58 | numist | haha really? |
| 08:58.58 | JayPee | they did a little informal survey... |
| 08:59.05 | JayPee | and said "How many of you have paid for RedHat?" |
| 08:59.09 | JayPee | and X people raised their hands |
| 08:59.16 | JayPee | and then they asked "How many of you use RedHat?" |
| 08:59.23 | JayPee | and X + N people raised their hands |
| 08:59.30 | numist | oh dear, this cant be good |
| 08:59.41 | JayPee | and the CEO, *the CEO*, said "Yeah, all of you people with your hands up? You're stealing." |
| 08:59.47 | numist | ..... |
| 08:59.50 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 08:59.51 | JayPee | I was like "WTF? This is why we all hate you." |
| 08:59.56 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 09:00.03 | numist | define: free open source software? |
| 09:00.15 | JayPee | numist: verb. People stealing. |
| 09:00.18 | drobbins | wow |
| 09:00.28 | numist | JayPee: NICE |
| 09:00.29 | scanlime | hah |
| 09:00.39 | drobbins | what % of the software in RHEL is written by Red Hat employees? |
| 09:00.46 | drobbins | who is stealing? |
| 09:00.48 | numist | very little, if measured by line |
| 09:00.56 | numist | very little, if not measured by line too, I imagine |
| 09:01.00 | JayPee | yeah, well, the talk was very interesting after that |
| 09:01.08 | JayPee | I never really understood why they shot the RHL line in the foot |
| 09:01.13 | JayPee | until. that. talk. |
| 09:01.20 | numist | besides yum, oh wait, they didnt write that either... . besides gui admin apps, what did they write? |
| 09:01.24 | numist | bluecurve? |
| 09:01.25 | ChipX86 | there's d-bus |
| 09:01.31 | numist | ah thats true |
| 09:01.32 | ChipX86 | although j5 is maintaining it nowadays |
| 09:01.37 | ChipX86 | er wait, does j5 work for redhat? |
| 09:01.38 | drobbins | they hire a lot of good people |
| 09:01.50 | drobbins | but still, the vast majority of their distro is stuff they get for free |
| 09:01.58 | ChipX86 | I suppose I should know this. Also, I need to touch base with him on notification-daemon.. |
| 09:02.29 | JayPee | drobbins: well, the most offensive part is the whole... lack of connection about HOW THEIR COMPANY STARTED... |
| 09:02.29 | JayPee | (as I'm sure you know.) |
| 09:02.36 | drobbins | I don't. |
| 09:02.41 | drobbins | I'm very poorly connected. |
| 09:02.48 | numist | the vast majority of any distro is not written by the distro.. its all the package maintainers that make the world turn... |
| 09:02.52 | JayPee | hence the reason you're in here, eh? ;-) |
| 09:03.03 | drobbins | So I know very little, esp. considering how much people think I should know based on the success of Gentoo |
| 09:03.06 | drobbins | yep |
| 09:03.07 | numist | man, I dont even know redhats origins |
| 09:04.11 | JayPee | drobbins: so, what are you up to these days? |
| 09:04.34 | drobbins | hmmmm |
| 09:04.57 | drobbins | trying to figure out where I'll be in 6 months |
| 09:05.14 | JayPee | hah. |
| 09:05.15 | JayPee | aren't we all. |
| 09:05.25 | scanlime | hmm, cool |
| 09:05.26 | ChipX86 | if VMware interests you, I'd be glad to send your resume in |
| 09:05.27 | scanlime | http://www.minix3.org/vmware.html |
| 09:05.43 | ChipX86 | scanlime: neat |
| 09:06.01 | drobbins | ChipX86: it does interest me, but I think I am going to be exploring options that would allow us to move back to albuquerque |
| 09:06.03 | scanlime | not sure why they allocated 640MB of ram for what's supposed to be a small embedded system OS :P |
| 09:06.08 | drobbins | ChipX86: at least at first |
| 09:06.13 | numist | minix in vmware? hawt |
| 09:06.21 | numist | ChipX86: any luck getting win1.0 to work yet? |
| 09:06.38 | ChipX86 | drobbins: nod. I assume you have family there? |
| 09:06.46 | ChipX86 | numist: haven't tried and I keep forgetting to ask Philip about it |
| 09:07.08 | numist | I'll keep bugging you, because it has bragging rights written all over it :) |
| 09:07.45 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 09:08.12 | numist | sweet |
| 09:08.18 | numist | now we just need win1.0 to support usb |
| 09:08.33 | drobbins | ChipX86: yep |
| 09:08.55 | ChipX86 | hmm, I need to write a test case for view::ContentBox. I started using it in a case where it had the lifetime of the main VMware app object, and it crashed on exit :/ |
| 09:09.31 | ChipX86 | drobbins: yeah, always best to try to get back around family (assuming you don't hate them :). If that doesn't pan out, let me know |
| 09:10.24 | ChipX86 | and if you have questions about the company at some point, feel free to ask |
| 09:11.35 | ChipX86 | JayPee, scanlime: Not sure when, but we should have a hackfest at some point soon |
| 09:12.24 | JayPee | ChipX86: agreed. |
| 09:12.33 | ChipX86 | I was thinking tomorrow |
| 09:12.34 | JayPee | ChipX86: also, I'm having an Aqua Teen party next... Saturday |
| 09:12.38 | ChipX86 | still going back and forth on that |
| 09:12.39 | JayPee | you're invited. :-) |
| 09:12.44 | JayPee | tomorrow? |
| 09:12.46 | JayPee | I could do that. |
| 09:12.59 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03seikalyd * r703 10docs/design/design.tex: ds doc edit |
| 09:13.23 | ChipX86 | not a huge Aqua Teen fan :/ |
| 09:13.57 | drobbins | ChipX86: okie dokie. Right now I'm looking at a possibilty that would allow me to visit out there quite a bit. I hope I get it. |
| 09:14.09 | JayPee | ChipX86: *hate* |
| 09:14.12 | ChipX86 | JayPee: :( |
| 09:14.16 | JayPee | ChipX86: :-) |
| 09:14.21 | JayPee | ChipX86: You're still invited! ;-) |
| 09:14.30 | numist | 2600 meeting tomorrow night |
| 09:14.31 | ChipX86 | also, Jamie would be sad if I'm unavailable for two nights in a row |
| 09:14.33 | JayPee | hey, it's free food. |
| 09:14.39 | ChipX86 | although... she is coming next weekend |
| 09:14.41 | numist | hackfest there until the place closes, then continuing at my house until saturday night |
| 09:15.01 | numist | even though none of you guys are in SD, you're all encouraged to come |
| 09:15.11 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:15.59 | ChipX86 | when did it get to be late |
| 09:16.20 | JayPee | hahah |
| 09:16.35 | JayPee | ChipX86: if we do a Hackfest, ping me with the details, ya? |
| 09:16.46 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 09:16.56 | ChipX86 | I'm thinking 8ish, 9ish |
| 09:17.55 | JayPee | whaevah. |
| 09:18.19 | ChipX86 | either my place or the donut shop is fine. My place is probably more comfortable |
| 09:18.28 | ChipX86 | though there are less donuts here |
| 09:18.37 | JayPee | well... |
| 09:18.42 | JayPee | fortunately, that's a solvable problem. ;-) |
| 09:18.47 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 09:18.54 | ChipX86 | we'll just start a donut business |
| 09:20.06 | JayPee | hah |
| 09:20.14 | JayPee | well, last time, you had brownies |
| 09:20.19 | JayPee | that's a start! |
| 09:20.20 | ChipX86 | I could do that |
| 09:20.30 | ChipX86 | I have more brownie stuffs |
| 09:20.36 | JayPee | :-) |
| 09:20.46 | JayPee | I'll bring back the crackers I took |
| 09:20.47 | ChipX86 | we're all still alive after eating the last batch, so.. |
| 09:20.54 | JayPee | that's a good sign! ;-) |
| 09:23.13 | ChipX86 | I should either get something done or sleep |
| 09:27.22 | numist | I was just thinking the same thing |
| 09:27.36 | JayPee | heh |
| 09:27.36 | JayPee | me too |
| 09:28.14 | numist | bleh, I hope I dont have a parking ticket.. damn campus rules and stuff |
| 09:29.13 | ChipX86 | Ross Burton did some nice documentation work for galago. I think I should commit that. |
| 09:30.07 | numist | I should really leave.. real tired now |
| 09:30.24 | ChipX86 | you're still at school? |
| 09:30.32 | numist | I'm at Joes apartment |
| 09:30.36 | numist | Joe's |
| 09:30.39 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 09:30.52 | numist | meeting ended, adjurned to on campus living |
| 09:33.44 | ChipX86 | numist: when did you say you'll be up next? |
| 09:34.52 | drobbins | gnite all |
| 09:34.55 | ChipX86 | goodnight |
| 09:34.57 | numist | ChipX86: I didnt, but Ive been trying to plan vacation |
| 09:35.04 | ChipX86 | numist: ah, ok |
| 09:35.06 | numist | ChipX86: any times I should plan on? |
| 09:35.36 | ChipX86 | well, Jamie's going to be here for my birthday on the 10th, and leaving the 12th. I'm going back to Chico on the 24th and staying for a couple days, and then hopefully Jamie's coming back with me for the rest of the week |
| 09:35.41 | JayPee | ChipX86: I'm headed to bed; ping me tomorrow if a HackSoc materializes. |
| 09:35.47 | ChipX86 | JayPee: will do |
| 09:35.57 | JayPee | coo |
| 09:35.58 | JayPee | 'night all |
| 09:36.18 | ChipX86 | goodnight |
| 09:36.57 | numist | hrm |
| 09:37.40 | numist | I was thinking of taking 10 days centered around the week between christmas and new years |
| 09:37.48 | numist | so, 7 vacation days or so |
| 09:37.53 | numist | maybe more if I decide to telecommute |
| 09:38.47 | numist | so, if you want to reccomend specific times to keep open, that helps me |
| 09:39.01 | numist | since, I have to plan based on good driving days, carrietime, familytime, etc |
| 09:39.26 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2351 10libgalago/ (18 files in 2 dirs): Patch by Ross Burton to fix up the documentation for Doxygen, and to add to it a bit. |
| 09:40.50 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 09:41.18 | ChipX86 | I'm free pretty much any time I'm in town, though when Jamie's here we'll of course want to be spending a bit of time alone |
| 09:41.35 | ChipX86 | although if you're here when she is at some point, we should all do lunch |
| 09:42.30 | numist | totally |
| 09:42.41 | numist | since I think I've ever said about 20 words to her |
| 09:42.45 | numist | thats probably a high estimate |
| 09:43.52 | ChipX86 | but never in person, right? |
| 09:44.00 | numist | yes |
| 09:44.08 | numist | so it would be nice to have her cornered >D |
| 09:44.11 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:44.25 | ChipX86 | she's shy, so she might not be too talkative. Kind of gets nervous around groups |
| 09:45.13 | numist | carrie will pry her out |
| 09:46.51 | numist | hey thats nifty |
| 09:46.59 | numist | xcomp fades between desktop changes |
| 09:47.02 | numist | too bad it sucks at it |
| 09:47.07 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 09:47.35 | numist | man I want a mac, or working xcomp |
| 09:47.37 | numist | :( |
| 09:47.43 | numist | hurry up, guys |
| 09:47.44 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 09:47.57 | ChipX86 | hey now, I'm not touching that stuff. Too many projects as it is :) |
| 09:48.17 | numist | I know, I meant in general |
| 09:48.28 | numist | its so sexy when it works, even with the gnarly horrible overdone shadows |
| 09:48.28 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2352 10libgalago/ (3 files in 2 dirs): A couple of documentation fixes. I forgot to update the parameter names in the doc blocks. |
| 09:48.34 | numist | like OMG LOOK WE HAVE SHADOWS |
| 09:48.40 | ChipX86 | I want to get someone on the tools team to add support for composite and damage to our X drivers |
| 09:48.48 | ChipX86 | numist: you can fix that |
| 09:48.57 | ChipX86 | -o 0.5 |
| 09:49.00 | ChipX86 | is the setting I use |
| 09:49.31 | numist | you may have to show me this... I havent found a user-oriented howto on installing/making it usable |
| 09:49.47 | numist | plus I'm getting flak from udev/initng |
| 09:49.53 | ChipX86 | xcompmgr -o 0.5 -cfF |
| 09:49.55 | numist | but I'm going to keep them because it takes me 12s to boot now |
| 09:50.57 | numist | hmm, thats more subtle, but the shadows are still 300000 pixels in any direction |
| 09:51.06 | numist | on DJ's machine |
| 09:52.03 | ChipX86 | you can try -r 6, but then there's some tweaking you must do to -l and -t |
| 09:52.05 | ChipX86 | xcompmgr --help |
| 09:52.27 | numist | hrm |
| 09:52.48 | ChipX86 | something like -l -9 -t -9 |
| 09:52.54 | ChipX86 | can't remember |
| 09:53.45 | numist | I'll let him fiddle with it, I need to start from the ground up with it |
| 09:54.05 | numist | and if its as unstable as you let on.. not sure that I want to use it on my productive machine |
| 09:54.24 | ChipX86 | well, I've had problems, but Philip has been running it for a year now without complaint |
| 09:55.03 | ChipX86 | I should sleep |
| 09:55.09 | ChipX86 | been having trouble waking up lately |
| 09:55.16 | ChipX86 | well, no, the waking up is okay. It's the waking up on time |
| 09:55.30 | numist | is that so... hrm |
| 09:55.36 | numist | yeah, Ive decided to show up to work late tomorrow |
| 09:55.47 | ChipX86 | as long as I get to work before 12, I'm okay |
| 09:56.29 | numist | :) |
| 09:56.32 | numist | ditto |
| 09:56.35 | numist | I love these jobs |
| 09:56.39 | numist | telecommuting is win too |
| 09:56.41 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 09:58.57 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 09:59.33 | numist | gnight chip |
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| 14:04.50 | purple_cow | too-freaking-early AM |
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| 16:11.21 | purple_cow | i hate that class |
| 16:11.33 | purple_cow | i hate that class with the fire of a hundred bathroom trips after handling chilies |
| 16:13.19 | purple_cow | which is pretty freaking fiery |
| 16:15.58 | ChipX86 | yay. Collections company is asking me to call them again |
| 16:16.11 | ChipX86 | regarding Cingular |
| 16:16.50 | purple_cow | ChipX86: you'll do better to ignore the collections agency and call cingular every time you get contacted |
| 16:17.12 | ChipX86 | I already dealt with cingular. I now have to deal with the collections company to make sure this doesn't affect my credit negatively |
| 16:17.22 | ChipX86 | I'm *hoping* that that's why they're calling, to say it's all taken care of |
| 16:17.44 | ChipX86 | Cingular, oddly, even sent me a check for like $17. I didn't pay a penny, so that confuses me |
| 16:17.52 | ChipX86 | probably a trap |
| 16:18.46 | purple_cow | haha |
| 16:19.03 | purple_cow | "we have you down as owing $17" |
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| 16:25.29 | darth_mall | not enough new comics >< |
| 16:25.52 | purple_cow | because new comics are just the thing you need ;) |
| 16:26.34 | darth_mall | I read an entire archive during lab this week ^^ |
| 16:26.43 | darth_mall | and got a good bit of the way through a second |
| 16:27.04 | darth_mall | should probably get ready for class |
| 16:28.39 | purple_cow | ok, time for me to start fixing up this document |
| 16:30.29 | darth_mall | nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 16:30.31 | darth_mall | ok |
| 16:31.09 | purple_cow | i really don't understand daniel's predilection towards "Also, ..." |
| 16:31.53 | purple_cow | darth_mall: am i allowed to use big words in this? |
| 16:36.59 | purple_cow | ooh neat |
| 16:37.02 | purple_cow | http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/glib/glib/gslice.c?rev=1.2&view=markup |
| 16:38.54 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03jupiter * r704 10docs/design/design.tex: review & fix text in section 2 |
| 16:40.27 | ChipX86 | oh for the love of god |
| 16:40.44 | ChipX86 | I'm still recorded as oweing money |
| 16:41.10 | nullpuppy | for what |
| 16:41.12 | nullpuppy | ? |
| 16:41.15 | ChipX86 | Cingular |
| 16:41.22 | nullpuppy | ah |
| 16:41.25 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 16:41.32 | ChipX86 | even though we settled this in November and Cingular sent me a "Balance due: 0 - We're sorry" letter |
| 16:41.34 | nullpuppy | nuke em! |
| 16:42.07 | ChipX86 | they're a bad company. The lady even confirmed it said on there that I wasn't supposed to pay the activation charges they're trying to collect on |
| 16:42.11 | ChipX86 | they were just hoping I wouldn't notice |
| 16:42.29 | nullpuppy | wow |
| 16:45.13 | purple_cow | gotta love the telecom provider industry |
| 16:45.24 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 16:51.53 | CIA-9 | smrt: 03jupiter * r705 10docs/design/design.tex: section 3 & 3.1 cleanup. still need to separate UI into 2 pieces... |
| 17:02.13 | file[desk] | woot shuttle pc |
| 17:05.11 | purple_cow | hahahaha, i just got a crazy idea |
| 17:05.20 | purple_cow | slimspace: how about exponential sizing in the cityscape? |
| 17:05.34 | purple_cow | think fisheye lens |
| 17:05.40 | slimspace | purple_cow: hmm... |
| 17:05.52 | slimspace | crazy idea. How would that work? |
| 17:06.27 | purple_cow | we'd have the city move like it does now, but buildings would resize themselves within their particular table so that the current one was largest and the size reduced with distance |
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| 17:06.49 | slimspace | radial distance? |
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| 17:06.52 | purple_cow | that way we keep a consistent sizing/movement metaphor across all 3 of our menu types |
| 17:07.01 | TimRiker | jbot: part #tacobeam |
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