| 00:00.06 | numist | SecretMethod70: so how am I supposed to know if its a phishing site or a safe site? |
| 00:00.38 | SecretMethod70 | oooooooh very good point! |
| 00:01.07 | numist | :) |
| 00:01.27 | numist | I hadnt even thought about abuse, I was still at the 'so how do I use it' part |
| 00:03.54 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9654 10teaching_boxes/web/ (css/style.css new_lesson.html): |
| 00:03.54 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Change the lesson layout so that the lesson is the focus of the page. Move the |
| 00:03.54 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: navigation to the top. |
| 00:18.57 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r9655 10teaching_boxes/web/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Update the spacing calculations and add some more stuff for the new boxes site |
| 00:18.58 | kergoth | numist: heh, and the most common colorblindness is between green & red.. |
| 00:24.25 | kergoth | pagefault: that is a good point. i use low rank earth shock constantly as a low mana spell interrupter :) |
| 00:25.01 | pagefault | hehe |
| 00:26.47 | kergoth | pagefault: the new beta of itemrack finally supports swapping sets on events! like rogue stealth, priest shadowform, warrior stances.. |
| 00:26.50 | kergoth | :D |
| 00:41.05 | *** join/#tacobeam orchid (n=bzgirl@unaffiliated/orchid) |
| 01:38.52 | pagefault | kergoth, nice |
| 01:41.02 | pagefault | hahahaha |
| 01:41.10 | pagefault | there is a cannon at the darkmoon faire you can get shot out of |
| 01:41.29 | kergoth | nice |
| 01:41.37 | kergoth | i have a job interview tomorrow :D |
| 01:41.42 | kergoth | flight out at 7:30am :( |
| 01:41.51 | pagefault | ugh |
| 01:41.58 | pagefault | rubber eggs or sausage |
| 01:42.05 | pagefault | with your 100ml orange juice |
| 01:42.17 | kergoth | hehe |
| 01:44.50 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pool-71-109-221-173.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 02:23.56 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r9656 10teaching_boxes/web/ (14 files in 6 dirs): Lots of cleanups, and more work on the New Box part |
| 02:57.33 | pagefault | is there some script that will auto assist someone I choose |
| 02:57.41 | kergoth | pagefault: we already have it included |
| 02:57.43 | kergoth | sort of |
| 02:57.59 | kergoth | smartassist automatically intelligently selects the person to assist based on a priority scheme |
| 02:58.04 | kergoth | main assist/puller first, then casters, etc |
| 02:58.12 | kergoth | bind 'f' to smartassist instead of the default |
| 02:58.23 | kergoth | then you can target someone and right click on them and 'set as puller' to make them the default person to assist |
| 02:58.35 | pagefault | ah nice |
| 02:58.35 | pagefault | thanks |
| 02:58.38 | kergoth | np |
| 02:58.40 | kergoth | works well |
| 02:58.46 | kergoth | if there's no one to assist, it defaults to the nearest enemy |
| 02:58.51 | kergoth | which is a hell of a lot safer than tab :P |
| 03:00.19 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, how come I want to build a rocket every-time I watch a disk of planetes? |
| 03:00.30 | purple_cow | because building rockets is fun? |
| 03:00.55 | JeffM2501 | this is true |
| 03:01.10 | JeffM2501 | hydrogen peroxide and gas :) |
| 03:01.23 | pagefault | this is much better than making a macro every time I do a raid |
| 03:01.25 | pagefault | :) |
| 03:01.36 | JeffM2501 | I rather liked the one where Fei Just wanted a smoke :) |
| 03:13.40 | pagefault | yay |
| 03:13.44 | pagefault | I get to fight a priest for dreadmist |
| 03:13.45 | pagefault | how bs |
| 03:24.14 | ChipX86 | I'm home |
| 03:24.51 | pagefault | welcome home |
| 03:45.16 | darth_mall | haha |
| 03:45.29 | darth_mall | I think that's The Boy Who Actually Saw a Woman's Breast on Law & Order =D |
| 03:49.57 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 03:49.58 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 03:54.45 | ChipX86 | there's actually a store called "Teh Market" |
| 03:59.22 | purple_cow | teehee, spock and kirk are making bows and arrows! |
| 04:00.58 | purple_cow | no caterpillars though :( |
| 04:04.07 | purple_cow | klingin varship! |
| 04:05.33 | darth_mall | oooh... Terri Garr is in this episode |
| 04:05.35 | darth_mall | she's such a hotty |
| 04:08.21 | darth_mall | what the hell... why is LaTeX inserting a $ here... |
| 04:09.30 | darth_mall | ooh... and Dean Caine... quality guest stars this episode |
| 04:13.59 | darth_mall | oof... she really did put on weight =\ |
| 04:14.54 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9657 10teaching_boxes/docs/lib/interviews.tex: Finished up the interview notes. |
| 04:17.01 | pagefault | kergoth, err |
| 04:17.03 | pagefault | problem |
| 04:17.08 | pagefault | how do I add bags to my bank :P |
| 04:17.22 | kergoth | pagefault: /mybank bag baer |
| 04:17.23 | kergoth | er |
| 04:17.26 | kergoth | pagefault: /mybank bag bar |
| 04:17.30 | pagefault | ahh ok |
| 04:17.31 | pagefault | thanks |
| 04:17.33 | pagefault | hehe |
| 04:17.33 | kergoth | np |
| 04:17.50 | pagefault | yeah I wasn't expecting it to be the same as my inventory :) |
| 04:18.09 | purple_cow | darth_mall: you're coming to 2001 tomorrow, right? |
| 04:18.17 | darth_mall | what time? |
| 04:18.21 | purple_cow | 7 |
| 04:18.32 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: any word from VMware? |
| 04:18.34 | darth_mall | is that the only time it's running? |
| 04:20.44 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah |
| 04:20.47 | purple_cow | it's free too |
| 04:20.50 | darth_mall | grrr >< |
| 04:20.53 | darth_mall | how can I resist? |
| 04:21.01 | purple_cow | and a new 35mm print |
| 04:21.11 | purple_cow | 'twill be awesome :) |
| 04:21.15 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:21.31 | darth_mall | watched a FitTv on capoeira with my parents over the weekend |
| 04:21.45 | purple_cow | ChipX86: nothing really since last tuesday (dunno if you saw). I should hear a number tomorrow or tuesday |
| 04:21.47 | darth_mall | all things considered it was pretty awesome |
| 04:24.45 | darth_mall | and I think that's the woman from Who's the Boss... |
| 04:25.04 | darth_mall | the guest stars on Law & Order are probably the only real reason to watch the show... |
| 04:28.04 | pagefault | SVU is better |
| 04:28.50 | darth_mall | that's what I'm watching =P |
| 04:28.59 | pagefault | ahh |
| 04:29.03 | darth_mall | it's pretty much the same, except sex crimes instead of homicide |
| 04:29.06 | pagefault | hehe |
| 04:29.10 | purple_cow | oh no! darth_mall's turning into my parents! |
| 04:29.11 | darth_mall | and less of the law, more of the order |
| 04:29.14 | pagefault | yeah but at least it has less old geezers on it |
| 04:29.48 | darth_mall | CI has pretty much no order, just law... and Vincent Denofrio being twitchy and annoying |
| 04:30.10 | darth_mall | pff... Jerry Orbach was the best thing about Law & Order |
| 04:30.16 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 04:30.17 | darth_mall | well... Jerry Orbach and Angie Harmon |
| 04:30.27 | purple_cow | you need to see that episode of buck rogers ;) |
| 04:31.06 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 04:31.14 | darth_mall | I should probably see the entire show |
| 04:31.21 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 04:31.29 | purple_cow | obviously you don't yet know better |
| 04:31.31 | darth_mall | it's on my list |
| 04:31.47 | purple_cow | hum. one of my prep bowls seems to have disappeared in this evening's festivities |
| 04:32.16 | darth_mall | holy crap... she played the CSM's wife on X-Files |
| 04:32.25 | darth_mall | this episode is just full of cool people |
| 04:32.34 | darth_mall | and none of them are regular cast members... |
| 04:34.01 | purple_cow | oh, there it is, in my refrigerator! |
| 04:34.23 | purple_cow | guess someone didn't like the spicy chocolate dessert |
| 04:34.42 | darth_mall | spicy chocolate? |
| 04:37.58 | purple_cow | yep, it was great |
| 04:38.08 | purple_cow | super-rich chocolate mousse, then about 15 seconds after swallowing your mouth is burning |
| 04:39.21 | darth_mall | ow |
| 04:39.44 | purple_cow | it works a lot better than one would imagine |
| 04:41.31 | purple_cow | wow, it's only 9:40? |
| 04:42.38 | file[laptop] | darth_mall: I wanna see it too... |
| 04:43.08 | darth_mall | hahaha... my brother's new ringtone is Master Shake yelling about his phone ringing |
| 04:46.30 | darth_mall | hah! SVU doing Terri Schiavo |
| 04:46.58 | darth_mall | good thing the writers are so good at doing current events in a subtle manner when they run out of ideas |
| 04:47.45 | purple_cow | yep |
| 04:49.31 | purple_cow | sigh |
| 04:49.39 | purple_cow | clearlooks on top of cairo is slow as all hell :( |
| 04:50.52 | pagefault | hrm |
| 04:54.49 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 04:54.58 | purple_cow | i should maybe read that paper we're supposed to talk about tomorrow |
| 04:56.05 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r9658 10teaching_boxes/web/ (new_box.html scripts/box/box.js): New box dialog, and make the name and description become part of the display |
| 05:01.57 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2346 10libgalago/ (17 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:01.57 | CIA-4 | galago: Some updates from this week and on the train: |
| 05:01.57 | CIA-4 | galago: - Move to an idle model where you record the time the idle state began instead of constantly updating the idle time length. This is untested due to lack of time, but should work :) Yay massive development trees. |
| 05:01.57 | CIA-4 | galago: - Update the NEWS with what's been done so far for 0.5.0. |
| 05:01.57 | CIA-4 | galago: - Use the glib logging functions instead of our own. The old galago_log_* functions have been removed. |
| 05:04.14 | darth_mall | hah... apparently since they're not making new Bond movies fast enough for the gaming industry, EA is just going to start making games out of old Bond flms |
| 05:04.43 | darth_mall | man, I despise the better part of the gaming industry |
| 05:04.50 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 05:04.53 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2347 10galago-daemon/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Moved to using the glib logging functions instead of the old galago_log_* functions. |
| 05:05.03 | ChipX86 | heh, talk to my co-worker, Walter. He's got stories ;) |
| 05:05.10 | ChipX86 | used to intern at EA Games |
| 05:05.28 | darth_mall | did he kill people? |
| 05:05.29 | darth_mall | cuz I would |
| 05:05.55 | ChipX86 | if he did, he might have been able to rise the corporate ladder faster |
| 05:06.43 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2348 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog src/Makefile.am src/main.c): Use the glib logging functions instead of galago_log_*. |
| 05:12.31 | file[laptop] | goodnight all |
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| 05:15.47 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2349 10gaim-galago/ (ChangeLog src/gaim-galago.c): Register a "Galago" glib log handler instead of an old-style galago_log_* handler. |
| 05:18.04 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2350 10galago-python/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:18.04 | CIA-4 | galago: - Added avatar.png for the presence-feed test. |
| 05:18.04 | CIA-4 | galago: - Update for the many changes that have gone into libgalago recently. |
| 05:18.04 | CIA-4 | galago: - Change the constructor definitions to set properties instead of calling the _new() function. I'm doing as the noisy generator errors command me. |
| 05:18.22 | ChipX86 | bzflag time with Jamie |
| 05:18.23 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9659 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Abstract user profile and design priorities |
| 05:18.34 | ChipX86 | 1 year as of today.. man time flies |
| 05:18.35 | ChipX86 | bbs |
| 05:19.11 | purple_cow | wow |
| 05:19.20 | purple_cow | congrats |
| 05:19.44 | *** topic/#tacobeam by darth_mall -> Happy anniversary, ChipX86 and spooklight! |
| 05:22.32 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 05:30.04 | pagefault | for what |
| 05:30.06 | pagefault | oh |
| 05:30.08 | pagefault | duh |
| 05:30.34 | pagefault | yeah |
| 05:30.35 | pagefault | congrats |
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| 05:49.31 | purple_cow | hey look, lurgy's back! |
| 05:49.34 | purple_cow | how was the rehearsal? |
| 05:52.13 | lurgy | heh |
| 05:52.14 | lurgy | eh |
| 05:52.17 | lurgy | not too horrible |
| 05:52.23 | lurgy | oh well |
| 05:52.32 | lurgy | how was it here |
| 05:54.33 | purple_cow | (thank god) |
| 05:55.03 | purple_cow | wow, only 11? |
| 05:55.52 | lurgy | hehe |
| 05:55.52 | lurgy | yay |
| 05:56.10 | purple_cow | poo, nothing interesting |
| 05:57.06 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-xtext-wrapper * r9660 10/: branch to do some more refactoring |
| 06:11.23 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:11.43 | purple_cow | by the time i'm done with what i have planned for all this, the main glade file is just going to be a window, a couple containers, and a handful of custom widgets |
| 06:13.59 | lurgy | sweet :) |
| 06:14.42 | purple_cow | lurgy: fyi, i ripped out your old keybindings stuff :P |
| 06:15.09 | purple_cow | it was getting in the way of i18n, and it wasn't really the proper way to store the keybindings (should use gtk_accel_map) |
| 06:15.56 | lurgy | nod |
| 06:16.04 | purple_cow | hope you weren't too attached to it |
| 06:16.11 | lurgy | hehe, no, not too much |
| 06:19.22 | lurgy | though i personally still prefer to leave <ctrl>w for the text box to use, like gnome-terminal and such |
| 06:19.50 | lurgy | like the HIG suggests :) |
| 06:20.15 | lurgy | it looked like it had changed back to that at some point |
| 06:20.41 | darth_mall | I move that x-g have no keybindings ever! |
| 06:22.07 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:22.10 | lurgy | a plan with no drawbacks |
| 06:23.36 | purple_cow | lurgy: yeah, but at least now it's easy to remove the ctrl+w accelerator |
| 06:26.57 | lurgy | :) |
| 06:27.10 | darth_mall | no removing! |
| 06:27.21 | darth_mall | users get defaults and if that's not good enough for them then they can go to bed without supper |
| 06:27.35 | lurgy | ooh |
| 06:28.49 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 06:28.55 | purple_cow | i hate the whole session nonsense |
| 06:29.02 | purple_cow | what a pita |
| 06:29.19 | lurgy | teehee |
| 06:29.22 | lurgy | purple_cow: http://www.mininova.org/tor/148799 |
| 06:29.26 | lurgy | yeah |
| 06:30.32 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r9661 10teaching_boxes/web/ (12 files in 5 dirs): Make the 'Add to Box' dialog, and also make the 'Add Lesson' button on the New Box page do stuff. |
| 06:31.00 | lurgy | swanky :) |
| 06:31.10 | slimspace | darth_mall: are you going to want to get together tomorrow to go over the draft document? |
| 06:31.24 | darth_mall | not really, but we can |
| 06:31.33 | darth_mall | my plan was to finish as much as possible and send you and Deanna copies |
| 06:31.46 | lurgy | aw man, bad torrent |
| 06:31.48 | darth_mall | I sent her an e-mail a few minutes ago asking for the lit reviews |
| 06:31.51 | slimspace | that's fine too. I've got my hands full getting the prototype ready to go, but I think I've mostly got it ready. |
| 06:32.09 | darth_mall | slimspace: ok, I'll send off whatever I get done tonight before going to bed |
| 06:32.20 | darth_mall | you can look it over when you have time, remember this is just a draft |
| 06:32.26 | slimspace | cool |
| 06:32.51 | slimspace | I'm calling it a night |
| 06:32.55 | slimspace | later |
| 06:33.02 | darth_mall | purple_cow: gobject-ifying the core would mean forking, wouldn't it? |
| 06:33.27 | purple_cow | darth_mall: not really |
| 06:33.34 | darth_mall | oh... yay! =D |
| 06:33.44 | purple_cow | last time i asked about it, zed wasn't opposed to the idea, just didn't want to spend his time on it |
| 06:38.12 | darth_mall | oh... so a patch? |
| 06:38.34 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 06:38.38 | darth_mall | cool |
| 06:38.53 | purple_cow | would probably send patches incrementally to the point where the entire core was nice and clean =P |
| 06:38.55 | purple_cow | lotta work though |
| 06:39.14 | purple_cow | what was his response? |
| 06:39.40 | darth_mall | he was concerned about breaking ABI with old plugins, I think |
| 06:39.48 | darth_mall | also, something about windows |
| 06:39.51 | purple_cow | ah |
| 06:39.55 | purple_cow | silly windows |
| 06:40.03 | lurgy | boo. |
| 06:40.08 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 06:40.17 | darth_mall | he had a good point about windows, though I don't recall what it was |
| 06:41.03 | purple_cow | darth_mall: one thing we should probably do is add a plugin API function for getting a reference to our GtkUIManager |
| 06:41.11 | purple_cow | that way plugins could add stuff to the main menu & context menus :) |
| 06:41.22 | darth_mall | that kind of thing is top on my list |
| 06:41.34 | darth_mall | and the prefs page, if you haven't already done that ;) |
| 06:41.37 | purple_cow | which would be weirdly cool |
| 06:41.38 | purple_cow | haven't |
| 06:50.36 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9662 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Design issues |
| 06:53.03 | lurgy | "Well, whatever it is you're not doing, go don't do it somewhere else!" |
| 06:53.28 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9663 10teaching_boxes/docs/ (design_brief/design_brief.tex lib/tasks.tex): |
| 06:53.28 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Move the tasks out into their own file since they end up in both the design |
| 06:53.28 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: brief and the final report. |
| 07:03.45 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9664 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Small blurb about the users tasks. |
| 07:04.16 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9665 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Spellcheck |
| 07:12.22 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-xtext-wrapper * r9666 10/src/fe-gnome/ (4 files): it compiles, therefore it must work! |
| 07:29.59 | ChipX86 | grarr |
| 07:30.17 | ChipX86 | can't access my linode. Even the lish shell is horribly slow, possibly non-responsive |
| 07:40.21 | purple_cow | :( |
| 07:44.08 | ChipX86 | no e-mail, no websites, no svn. yay! |
| 07:55.31 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-xtext-wrapper * r9667 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): lots more progress |
| 07:55.38 | purple_cow | gotta love linode |
| 07:56.13 | ChipX86 | I've only once ever had a problem, and it was e-mail-related. I'm wondering if somehow I didn't fully disable spamassassin or amavisd |
| 07:56.26 | ChipX86 | I'd love to co-locate a box someday |
| 07:57.30 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (i=pagefaul@HSE-Montreal-ppp134484.qc.sympatico.ca) |
| 07:59.05 | purple_cow | file pointed scanlime at some relatively inexpensive Real Servers[tm] a few days ago |
| 07:59.21 | ChipX86 | define relatively inexpensive |
| 07:59.42 | dooky | $1,500 a month! |
| 08:00.25 | purple_cow | http://www.meganetserve.com/ |
| 08:01.30 | ChipX86 | shame they lock you into Fedora or CentOS |
| 08:02.07 | purple_cow | you could always use those to bootstrap an install of a different distro |
| 08:03.17 | ChipX86 | not bad.. |
| 08:04.36 | ChipX86 | "Windows Server 2003 STD Edition" |
| 08:11.48 | ChipX86 | hahaha |
| 08:11.54 | ChipX86 | love hpj's blog post |
| 08:16.09 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 08:16.12 | purple_cow | that's great |
| 08:16.21 | ChipX86 | I'm pretty curious about that now |
| 08:18.07 | ChipX86 | geeze |
| 08:18.12 | ChipX86 | 250MB into swap |
| 08:18.14 | ChipX86 | wtf happened |
| 08:21.27 | purple_cow | "scotty's a good man, but he thinks he's the right man for her. I'm not sure she thinks he's the right man for her. On the other hand, she *is* a woman." |
| 08:22.01 | purple_cow | what a hilarious show |
| 09:02.33 | ChipX86 | finally got in |
| 09:02.37 | ChipX86 | and I hae like 40 apache processes |
| 09:02.44 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-xtext-wrapper * r9668 10/src/fe-gnome/ (conversation-panel.c textgui.c): more progress |
| 09:02.46 | ChipX86 | so far :P |
| 09:02.51 | ChipX86 | ps auxw hasn't finished yet. so slow |
| 09:09.26 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (n=SecretMe@24-148-59-170.prs-bsr1.chi-prs.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 09:11.40 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-xtext-wrapper * r9669 10/src/fe-gnome/conversation-panel.c: make it compile |
| 09:21.01 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 09:21.25 | purple_cow | i think this might be the episode where spock is in heat |
| 09:26.50 | purple_cow | teehee, wulcan |
| 09:28.38 | ChipX86 | yay, I have a linode again |
| 09:42.08 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-xtext-wrapper * r9670 10/src/fe-gnome/ (8 files): getting closer to actually working. woo! |
| 10:02.35 | scanlime | oof, that took a while |
| 10:02.55 | scanlime | note to self: there is no midnight southbound caltrain on sundays |
| 10:03.04 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 10:03.18 | scanlime | had to take BART to millbrae, then samtrans to palo alto, then VTA to sunnyvale |
| 10:03.54 | scanlime | although, even paying for a caltrain ticket I didn't use, that was way cheaper than the RTD skyride |
| 10:06.43 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 10:11.58 | purple_cow | eek |
| 10:12.49 | purple_cow | One of the more annoying aspects of the PSP is text entry. It seems as if they looked at the text entry used by consoles and mobile phones and combined the worst aspects of both: |
| 10:12.49 | purple_cow | * There is a grid of buttons, each of which corresponds to 3 or 4 letters which can be selected by pressing the button multiple times. |
| 10:12.49 | purple_cow | * You use the direction pad to select the button to press. |
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| 16:37.47 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9671 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/ (Makefile report.tex): |
| 16:37.47 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Move low-fi prototype out of an appendix into the design approach since it's |
| 16:37.47 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: relevant there. |
| 16:59.00 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1829 10mck/ (7 files in 6 dirs): fix some objs.pickle protocol silliness |
| 17:01.21 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9672 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: |
| 17:01.21 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: A little more on the dialogs to try and tie them into our priorities and issues |
| 17:01.21 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: better. |
| 17:05.07 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1830 10mck/ (PyMCK/Ground/System/Synchronizer.py utils/writepickle.py): open file mode should be binary for pickles |
| 17:07.15 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy|work (n=dkuester@dlc75-99-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 17:21.43 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9673 10teaching_boxes/docs/ (final_report/report.tex lib/interview_summary.tex): |
| 17:21.44 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Commit all of Deanna's work. Also removed the Screenshots appendix since those |
| 17:21.44 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: should probably go in the Final Design section. |
| 17:23.47 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 17:26.01 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9674 10teaching_boxes/docs/lib/interview_summary.tex: Fill in the missing profile. |
| 17:28.02 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9675 10teaching_boxes/docs/lib/interview_summary.tex: Fix some ws and make a couple of style changes. |
| 17:31.35 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1831 10mck/ (13 files in 4 dirs): hmm, weird.. but, the about dialog works again |
| 17:33.26 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1832 10mck/data/Simulator/: don't need this any more |
| 17:37.17 | *** join/#tacobeam jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 17:37.17 | *** topic/#tacobeam is Happy anniversary, ChipX86 and spooklight! |
| 17:38.40 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9676 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Add the issue regarding custom fields that Deanna and I discussed |
| 17:39.06 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1833 10mck/ (6 files in 6 dirs): break for a wee bit |
| 17:42.33 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1834 10mck/ (12 files in 5 dirs): yay more breaking |
| 17:51.17 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9677 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Spellcheck |
| 17:53.44 | file | hey Chip |
| 17:54.03 | darth_mall | wow... Daniel is an idiot |
| 17:54.09 | darth_mall | p.s. Whoever wrote what was already in the design doc is obsessed with commas |
| 17:55.09 | darth_mall | so he claims he committed some changes to our design doc, but I don't see anything in the logs from him |
| 17:55.34 | ChipX86 | pfft, that's, just, silly, commas are, I think, quite useful, and, if used often, you sound, very, very, intelligent, don't you think? |
| 17:56.35 | file | or like Shatner |
| 17:57.04 | ChipX86 | you know what would rock? If apache stopped eating all my memory on my linode |
| 17:57.19 | file | you need a dedicated server obviously |
| 17:57.50 | numist | agreed |
| 17:58.00 | file | numist: how's your e-mail situation? |
| 17:58.03 | ChipX86 | yes, I do |
| 17:58.23 | numist | file: still unsuccessful for unknown reasons that I cannot find an answer to and dont have the time to pursue further |
| 17:58.29 | file | numist: :( |
| 17:58.35 | numist | yeah |
| 17:59.31 | file | ChipX86: scanlime has come to the same conclusion - therefore it must be the right one! |
| 18:00.06 | numist | something about 'cant find canonical dns name'... all greek to me, I'm afraid. If you can take a peek, the death throes are at http://pastebin.com/441173 |
| 18:01.00 | file | mmm |
| 18:02.06 | numist | yeah, google wasnt terribly helpful |
| 18:02.20 | file | what's your config look like, minus passwords? |
| 18:02.26 | numist | one moment |
| 18:03.41 | numist | http://pastebin.com/441186 |
| 18:04.21 | pagefault | google |
| 18:04.32 | file | humor me and take out the vias |
| 18:04.51 | numist | thanks pagefault, I only spent most of saturday on google trying to fix this |
| 18:05.02 | pagefault | glad I could help |
| 18:05.26 | pagefault | hey file |
| 18:05.26 | numist | my goodness |
| 18:05.32 | numist | I guess we've found a bug in fetchmailconf then |
| 18:05.40 | numist | jesus thats a lot of output |
| 18:06.21 | file | you're the third person to owe me beer |
| 18:06.46 | numist | wont be the last :P |
| 18:06.52 | file | no doubt about that |
| 18:08.02 | file | numist: I just like my basic simple config since it can't screw up... much :) |
| 18:08.13 | numist | hah |
| 18:08.14 | pagefault | it's peanut butter jelly time |
| 18:08.22 | numist | the config line for gmail is scarily bleh-complicated |
| 18:08.27 | numist | so much for human-readable :P |
| 18:08.31 | file | hehe yeah |
| 18:08.35 | numist | damn its downloading a ton of messages :o |
| 18:08.48 | numist | shouldnt have passed -vv :/ |
| 18:08.57 | file | as long as you don't use your servers directly, you'll be fine... do all your mail stuff where fetchmail runs ;) |
| 18:09.11 | numist | but I was going to use dovecot |
| 18:09.13 | numist | oh shit I forgot keep |
| 18:09.20 | file | well that's what I meant |
| 18:09.32 | numist | hrm, is it 'safe' to kill it partway through execution? |
| 18:09.37 | file | yeah |
| 18:10.13 | numist | hrm.. just append keep to the end of the lines, iirc. guess theres one good way to find out :P |
| 18:10.42 | file | I just slurp everything off my ISP's servers since I don't trust them |
| 18:11.03 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1835 10mck/ (18 files in 14 dirs): moose |
| 18:11.06 | file | anybody who changes major routing to go through a city on the other side of the province during the day... makes me nervous |
| 18:11.10 | numist | haha |
| 18:11.20 | numist | yes, I can see that being an issue |
| 18:13.30 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1836 10mck/ (17 files in 12 dirs): this makes more sense |
| 18:16.47 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9678 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Lots of undefined references... time for screenshots |
| 18:28.18 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1837 10mck/utils/datapath.py: |
| 18:35.13 | *** join/#tacobeam file (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa24w-142167049176.nb.aliant.net) |
| 18:42.11 | numist | hrm.. so fetchmail fetched the mail, but pine shows no messages |
| 18:42.12 | numist | hrm |
| 18:42.18 | numist | whered fetchmail put the mail? |
| 18:42.51 | file | it should be on the local user |
| 18:42.57 | numist | right, it should be |
| 18:43.25 | file | dovecot might not be psychic enough though |
| 18:43.31 | ChipX86 | ughhh |
| 18:43.35 | numist | I'm using pine on the local machine though :o |
| 18:43.35 | ChipX86 | gotta love our off-shore QA team |
| 18:43.43 | file | mmm dunno |
| 18:43.45 | ChipX86 | they filed a critical release-stopper test-stopper bug |
| 18:43.56 | numist | oh shit |
| 18:43.57 | numist | .forward |
| 18:44.11 | numist | I just sent 800 messages to myself |
| 18:44.19 | ChipX86 | the bug was that instead of a certain menu item being disabled when that operation has already completed, it instead is always enabled and just pops up a dialog saying it was already completed |
| 18:44.23 | file | LOL |
| 18:44.29 | ChipX86 | yep, can't test or release with that! |
| 18:44.32 | numist | thats why it took so long.. mail loop |
| 18:44.38 | numist | no wonder.. damn damn damn |
| 18:44.40 | file | fix fix fix :) |
| 18:44.44 | numist | fixed |
| 18:44.47 | numist | but.. oops |
| 18:44.51 | numist | cleanup cleanup cleanup |
| 18:46.42 | numist | let it be known: I am an idiot |
| 18:46.50 | file | nah |
| 18:47.11 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r9679 10teaching_boxes/web/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Lots of code cleanups, and a little bit of AJAX magic. We've got very rudamentary loading of box and lesson data for the 'Add Lesson' button in the new box page, and 'Add to Box' in the new lesson page. |
| 18:49.21 | hardwire | booga |
| 18:49.40 | file | hail hardwire |
| 18:49.46 | hardwire | hail file |
| 18:49.57 | hardwire | how fare thee this day, o wise file. |
| 18:50.06 | file | meh |
| 18:50.07 | hardwire | fare/fair |
| 18:50.12 | file | it's okay |
| 18:50.18 | numist | hardwire: fare was correct :o |
| 18:50.20 | hardwire | my voip server is kernel panicking |
| 18:50.29 | hardwire | hah |
| 18:50.29 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9680 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Add screenshots to the Final Design |
| 18:50.34 | file | it's not my fault |
| 18:50.35 | hardwire | oh how fair you are sweet file. |
| 18:50.53 | hardwire | file: never said it was.. I think it was a sploit |
| 18:51.03 | file | I didn't do it |
| 18:51.08 | hardwire | most of our servers are under attack. |
| 18:51.24 | file | we block entire countries to stop that :) |
| 18:51.40 | file | SSH is disabled on everything now except for the work box, but that might change since we're on the VPN |
| 18:51.43 | hardwire | fail2ban is helping |
| 18:51.50 | hardwire | immensely |
| 18:52.20 | hardwire | file: ever heard of knock-knock firewalling? |
| 18:52.31 | hardwire | if you still needed SSH.. it would help |
| 18:52.54 | ChipX86 | I invented that |
| 18:52.59 | file | we can dial into our TNT Maxes to get access to our network |
| 18:52.59 | hardwire | you did eh? |
| 18:53.04 | file | even if every internet connection is down |
| 18:53.05 | ChipX86 | came up with a whole implementation |
| 18:53.06 | hardwire | file: probably safe :) |
| 18:53.11 | ChipX86 | did a release for a couple days and pulled it |
| 18:53.22 | hardwire | ChipX86: release? |
| 18:53.31 | ChipX86 | there was no such thing as a knock-knock firewall at the time |
| 18:53.36 | ChipX86 | but I got a coiuple people interested |
| 18:53.39 | ChipX86 | one of them went off and forked it |
| 18:53.46 | hardwire | it was software? |
| 18:53.46 | ChipX86 | and then got big and well-known on slashdot for a while |
| 18:53.48 | ChipX86 | then everyone copied him |
| 18:53.49 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 18:53.52 | hardwire | weird |
| 18:53.55 | numist | hardwire: using knockd to listen for knocks and then opening ports based on that is dangerous... my friend has had issues whe a) he wasnt using his machine and forgot the sequence and b) when knockd unexpectedly died |
| 18:53.57 | hardwire | I know how to do it with iptables now. |
| 18:54.01 | hardwire | no extra software needed |
| 18:54.05 | ChipX86 | but knockd was a fork of my stuff |
| 18:54.09 | ChipX86 | config file was nearly the same |
| 18:54.10 | hardwire | ah |
| 18:54.13 | numist | hah nice |
| 18:54.13 | hardwire | well its quite neat :) |
| 18:54.22 | hardwire | but yeh.. iptables can take care of it. |
| 18:54.36 | numist | I trust my firewall and ssh daemon |
| 18:54.55 | numist | ChipX86: is your name still in the source? |
| 18:54.58 | hardwire | don't trust either :) |
| 18:54.58 | ChipX86 | no |
| 18:55.00 | ChipX86 | which pissed me off |
| 18:55.02 | numist | aw |
| 18:55.04 | ChipX86 | he claimed he never heard of me |
| 18:55.05 | hardwire | aw |
| 18:55.07 | hardwire | weird |
| 18:55.09 | numist | lame, man |
| 18:55.19 | hardwire | well he never did .. he only saw the code and not the copyright :) |
| 18:55.21 | ChipX86 | I had it over 2 years before anybody else in the world had it |
| 18:55.32 | ChipX86 | at least, searches on the internet turned up nothing |
| 18:55.35 | hardwire | well I didn't mean to bring up such a painfull memory |
| 18:55.44 | ChipX86 | nah, I'm well past that |
| 18:56.08 | hardwire | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/268 |
| 18:56.22 | hardwire | is what I am thinking |
| 18:56.55 | hardwire | its not to the ip |
| 18:57.03 | hardwire | which other implemenations would be |
| 19:00.00 | scanlime | hmm |
| 19:00.06 | scanlime | about $12 from CIA, in a week |
| 19:00.17 | scanlime | barely pays for hosting :) |
| 19:00.28 | numist | keep it up and itll cover it though |
| 19:00.35 | scanlime | not if I upgrade the server |
| 19:00.47 | scanlime | but, I'm sure I'll make more on the ads when they aren't in such an awful location |
| 19:01.08 | numist | yes |
| 19:01.11 | numist | ads :( |
| 19:01.15 | numist | but CIA :) |
| 19:01.22 | numist | result is still :) |
| 19:01.30 | scanlime | yeah. I don't like ads, but text ads are easy to keep out of the way |
| 19:01.40 | scanlime | right now they're just a little too out of the way |
| 19:01.45 | numist | esp since adsense is less :( than IF THIS IS FLASHING -- YOUVE WON! |
| 19:01.57 | numist | I swear I'm going to make one of those banners and make it Not Flash |
| 19:02.01 | numist | just to see what people do |
| 19:02.04 | scanlime | heh, yes. Even google's image ads have editorial policies against crap like that |
| 19:02.12 | numist | excellent |
| 19:08.55 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9681 10teaching_boxes/docs/ (final_report/report.tex lib/Rules.make lib/resources.bib): |
| 19:08.55 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Fix the rules for making the bibliography. Fix the bibliography. Add Deanna's |
| 19:08.56 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: lit reviews. |
| 19:10.27 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9682 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Spellcheck |
| 19:12.23 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1838 10mck/utils/flightdatapath.py: fluff |
| 19:24.18 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1839 10mck/ (8 files in 4 dirs): thanks to some data directory management refactoring and some install magic optimization, we now have about 35% more free space on the satellite :) |
| 19:32.37 | scanlime | numist: your mail loop is doing bad things :P |
| 19:32.57 | scanlime | I just got a bounce from a message I sent you quite a while ago |
| 19:35.33 | scanlime | hey |
| 19:36.52 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9683 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Muck with figure placement a bit |
| 19:39.23 | numist | sorry scanlime, disregard anything from me today |
| 19:40.35 | scanlime | no problem, just wanted to let you know you're prolly spewing bounces at everyone you've emailed lately :) |
| 19:43.38 | numist | scanlime: I'm sending bounces to everyone who has ever emailed me in the last year... my dad got 60 bounces :o |
| 19:43.44 | scanlime | wow |
| 19:43.49 | numist | yeah.. oopsie |
| 19:43.52 | numist | not doing that again |
| 19:44.01 | file | bad numist bad |
| 19:44.04 | numist | :( |
| 19:44.11 | scanlime | that's gotta suck for mailing lists you're on |
| 19:44.32 | numist | luckily, I dont use my normal accounts for mailing lists |
| 19:44.57 | numist | on the other hand, I cant think of any mailing lists I'm a part of either >_> |
| 19:46.22 | darth_mall | dammit... it's almost 1 |
| 19:46.51 | numist | You have new mail in /var/mail/numist |
| 19:46.55 | numist | hahahaha I should hope so |
| 19:49.35 | scanlime | need to figure out what's causing this on zero |
| 19:49.59 | scanlime | apache processes just spin and suck up CPU |
| 19:52.34 | purple_cow | guh |
| 19:52.40 | purple_cow | daniel needs to be kicked in the teeth |
| 19:55.01 | numist | I think my irssi is broken |
| 19:55.01 | numist | 11:52:40 <%%$> +daniel needs to be kicked in the teeth |
| 19:55.07 | *** part/#tacobeam numist (i=numist@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/numist) |
| 19:55.08 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (i=numist@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/numist) |
| 19:55.11 | numist | hrm |
| 19:59.05 | scanlime | purple_cow: what'd he do this time? |
| 19:59.13 | purple_cow | just sent an email |
| 19:59.35 | scanlime | oh no, email |
| 19:59.50 | darth_mall | purple_cow: the one where he says he changed the document? |
| 20:00.00 | darth_mall | or did he only send this to you? |
| 20:00.02 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 20:00.05 | purple_cow | `` I am a |
| 20:00.05 | purple_cow | bit hesitant to commit it because I changed a lot of what was already written, |
| 20:00.05 | purple_cow | hopefully just the wording and not the meaning. But I am going to do it |
| 20:00.05 | purple_cow | anyway, i just wanted to give everyone the heads up so they didn't see it and |
| 20:00.05 | purple_cow | be like what the fuck.'' |
| 20:00.18 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 20:00.25 | darth_mall | as far as I can tell, he didn't commit anything |
| 20:00.29 | darth_mall | there's nothing in the logs from him |
| 20:00.35 | numist | hrm |
| 20:00.50 | numist | damn... purple_cow is still a %%$ :( |
| 20:01.00 | purple_cow | yeah, nothing in the repo |
| 20:01.09 | darth_mall | I loved his comment about commas at the bottom >< |
| 20:01.13 | scanlime | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/author/seikalyd |
| 20:01.21 | purple_cow | he probably got an out of date warning and wasn't paying attention |
| 20:01.41 | scanlime | daniel still has 3-digit message IDs on CIA :) |
| 20:02.11 | purple_cow | damnit |
| 20:02.14 | purple_cow | ctrlproxy is giving me +s |
| 20:02.28 | *** join/#tacobeam purple_cow (n=david@zero.navi.cx) |
| 20:03.15 | numist | hrm |
| 20:03.23 | numist | say something for me |
| 20:03.40 | purple_cow | no! |
| 20:03.44 | numist | DAMN |
| 20:03.55 | darth_mall | haha: 2 figures changed by Daniel Seikaly |
| 20:04.14 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (i=numist@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/numist) |
| 20:04.23 | darth_mall | what a tool |
| 20:05.59 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 20:06.02 | purple_cow | i should prolly read that paper |
| 20:06.05 | numist | yay I can see purple_cow now |
| 20:06.38 | darth_mall | but I also have to finish this draft before tonight >< |
| 20:10.59 | purple_cow | but first, a shower |
| 20:14.33 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9684 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Some web analytics and a spellcheck. |
| 20:26.30 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9685 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: |
| 20:26.30 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: This web analytics section is really weak. But it's only a draft, and we can |
| 20:26.30 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: hopefully revise it a bit before submission tonight. |
| 20:41.53 | hardwire | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2166,CONTENTID=10717&ad=hpb_g15 |
| 20:41.57 | hardwire | hehe.. hehehe.. |
| 20:42.00 | hardwire | I really want this now. |
| 20:44.39 | darth_mall | fancy |
| 20:45.13 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:45.17 | ChipX86 | me too |
| 20:45.25 | ChipX86 | it'd be good for the media box |
| 20:46.08 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9686 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: More spellchecking, included the responses from the survey in an appendix |
| 20:46.16 | darth_mall | my feet are cold and my stomach is empty |
| 20:46.27 | ChipX86 | my feet are empty and my stomach is cold :( |
| 20:46.41 | scanlime | I'm skeptical of their LCD |
| 20:46.52 | scanlime | they must have plugins for a few games to have them send info to the keyboard |
| 20:46.59 | ChipX86 | yeah, I'm wondering about that |
| 20:47.17 | ChipX86 | also, the keyboard isn't wireless. Booo |
| 20:47.30 | scanlime | it also seems silly to look all the way down at your keyboard instead of having all that info on a HUD |
| 20:48.15 | ChipX86 | \u2022 Logitech® GamePanel\u2122 LCD requires software that supports GamePanel technology. |
| 20:48.31 | ChipX86 | which is probably next to nothing |
| 20:49.55 | numist | well, you could probably hack up support... kergoth could make a WoW script for it |
| 20:50.02 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 20:50.07 | numist | no? |
| 20:50.08 | numist | :( |
| 20:50.09 | ChipX86 | WoW scripts can't run external programs or access hardware |
| 20:50.14 | ChipX86 | they can only write to a variables file |
| 20:50.22 | ChipX86 | so you'd need other software to monitor that file |
| 20:50.31 | ChipX86 | which is doable, but annoying |
| 20:50.31 | numist | hrm |
| 20:50.37 | scanlime | can that variables 'file' be a named pipe? :) |
| 20:50.41 | hardwire | ChipX86: it would be spiffy if it had an EV_LED set up for the keyboard backlight |
| 20:50.42 | numist | hard to do in 100ms time wihtout some annoyance |
| 20:50.42 | ChipX86 | no :( |
| 20:50.47 | ChipX86 | numist: nod |
| 20:51.47 | scanlime | frolocks? |
| 20:51.49 | numist | hehe |
| 20:51.49 | ChipX86 | scanlime: did you see that common sense finally won in that debate? |
| 20:51.57 | ChipX86 | I'm sure I spelt that wrong |
| 20:51.58 | scanlime | ChipX86: yes, that made me quite glad |
| 20:52.04 | hardwire | scanlime: he is gluing puffy hair and locking it in |
| 20:52.26 | ChipX86 | Regis's response was so great |
| 20:52.32 | hardwire | scanlime: moo on you! |
| 20:52.42 | ChipX86 | "I second that. Fucking advocates of politically correct language blow me. They deserve to die." |
| 20:53.21 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9687 10teaching_boxes/docs/lib/interview_summary.tex: Fix a grammatical mistake in the last profile |
| 20:53.52 | scanlime | ChipX86: nice |
| 20:54.15 | scanlime | oof.. this cache had better be as cool as I hope it is |
| 20:54.24 | ChipX86 | I need to find a way to make mediawiki pages more dynamic |
| 20:54.36 | ChipX86 | must write plugins |
| 20:54.54 | scanlime | I need to see if it would be possible to run CIA on mediawiki :) |
| 20:55.07 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 20:55.14 | hardwire | ChipX86: dynamic .. wiki .. pages? |
| 20:55.17 | ChipX86 | hardwire: yes |
| 20:55.22 | purple_cow | i like how bruce's biggest comment on our presentation was that our slides were pretty :) |
| 20:55.29 | scanlime | that's bruce for ya |
| 20:55.39 | ChipX86 | like, loop through tables in a database, output this wiki block of text |
| 20:55.48 | purple_cow | well |
| 20:55.51 | purple_cow | our slides were *really* pretty |
| 20:55.53 | ChipX86 | or use this mediawiki template |
| 20:56.03 | ChipX86 | also, ajax! |
| 20:56.11 | ChipX86 | and tags! |
| 20:57.33 | ChipX86 | now what did I breka.. |
| 20:57.38 | ChipX86 | bah, break |
| 20:58.35 | purple_cow | ok, time to read this silly paper |
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| 21:20.37 | *** topic/#tacobeam is Happy anniversary, ChipX86 and spooklight! |
| 21:22.05 | darth_mall | purple_cow: are you serious? |
| 21:22.15 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yeah. i'm going through and fixing stuff now :P |
| 21:22.22 | purple_cow | looks like some of his text is good though |
| 21:22.32 | ChipX86 | why did he do that and did he test it? |
| 21:22.33 | darth_mall | I was going to suggest just reverting his changes |
| 21:22.43 | darth_mall | ChipX86: because he's an idiot and not likely |
| 21:26.07 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 21:26.11 | ChipX86 | my swap usage just keeps going up |
| 21:28.26 | CIA-4 | smrt: 03jupiter * r610 10docs/design/design.tex: fix some tex/spacing issues |
| 21:34.49 | purple_cow | huh |
| 21:35.04 | JeffM2501 | CIA-4 smrt: jupiter * r610 docs/design/design.tex: fix some tex/spacing issues |
| 21:35.57 | purple_cow | there it is |
| 21:36.09 | purple_cow | just being slow |
| 21:36.15 | purple_cow | thank you JeffM2501 |
| 21:36.21 | JeffM2501 | I live to serve |
| 21:37.26 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: sos i might be becoming a californian :-o |
| 21:37.42 | dooky | purple_cow: :O |
| 21:37.44 | JeffM2501 | vmware assimilation going well? |
| 21:38.13 | dooky | california rocks |
| 21:38.31 | JeffM2501 | then you can help me launch a rocket :) |
| 21:38.32 | file | I just realized I might be in San Jose again in March |
| 21:38.36 | CIA-4 | smrt: 03jupiter * r611 10docs/design/design.tex: typo |
| 21:54.30 | ChipX86 | woot |
| 21:54.36 | ChipX86 | they didn't mangle my screenshots too much this time |
| 21:54.40 | ChipX86 | kept them png |
| 22:06.11 | scanlime | ChipX86: are they up yet? |
| 22:06.50 | scanlime | gah |
| 22:06.55 | scanlime | gam_server is using all my CPU |
| 22:06.56 | scanlime | not vmware |
| 22:07.55 | scanlime | yay.. the solution to all of life's problems: a set of gigantic caches |
| 22:24.36 | TD | hi guys |
| 22:39.36 | darth_mall | soooo hungry |
| 22:49.47 | ChipX86 | scanlime: some are |
| 22:50.27 | scanlime | ah, nice |
| 22:50.35 | scanlime | er |
| 22:50.37 | scanlime | broken links :P |
| 22:50.40 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:50.45 | ChipX86 | it's not done yet. Already talked to Lisa about it |
| 22:52.01 | scanlime | that's sure a strange looking media player |
| 22:52.12 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 22:52.16 | ChipX86 | Windows Media Player |
| 22:52.17 | scanlime | I don't suppose you know how to run the vmx under gprof? :) |
| 22:52.23 | ChipX86 | so.. can anyone else get on AIM? :( |
| 22:52.25 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 22:52.34 | scanlime | the proxy is flaking out |
| 22:52.40 | ChipX86 | oh good |
| 22:52.49 | ChipX86 | because the debug window says oscar claims my screenname isn't valid |
| 22:52.56 | ChipX86 | I'd very much like that to not be true |
| 22:53.17 | ChipX86 | http://www.vmware.com/img/movie-capture_lg.png |
| 22:53.21 | ChipX86 | see the blatant self-promotion? |
| 22:53.26 | scanlime | yes |
| 22:53.40 | scanlime | no USB devies :( |
| 22:53.42 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:53.49 | ChipX86 | they're in the player screenshots though! |
| 22:53.52 | ChipX86 | those just aren't up yet |
| 22:53.54 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:54.02 | ChipX86 | http://vmweb/~christian/screenshots/ws55/ |
| 22:54.06 | scanlime | so last I checked, the player VM still had a completely broken USB setup |
| 22:54.15 | scanlime | they installed the OHCI driver, but not UHCI |
| 22:54.17 | ChipX86 | they're apparently refreshing it soon |
| 22:54.18 | ChipX86 | oh bah |
| 22:54.19 | scanlime | we've never supported OHCI, and we never will |
| 22:54.26 | ChipX86 | you should yell at Eddie |
| 22:54.48 | scanlime | which eddie? |
| 22:54.54 | ChipX86 | can't remember |
| 22:55.06 | ChipX86 | Dinel |
| 22:55.11 | scanlime | k |
| 22:58.41 | scanlime | mail sent >:) |
| 23:01.10 | scanlime | oh, weird |
| 23:01.17 | scanlime | ChipX86: just saw your browser appliance screenshot :P |
| 23:01.30 | scanlime | I guess that's a lot less bad than I assumed it would look... |
| 23:01.34 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:01.43 | ChipX86 | well I made it fullscreen for the screenshot and hid hte second search bar |
| 23:01.56 | scanlime | right |
| 23:02.03 | scanlime | but that's not how it will come by default, is it? |
| 23:02.05 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 23:02.12 | ChipX86 | users seem to actually like this though |
| 23:02.15 | scanlime | so.. useful. |
| 23:02.57 | scanlime | hmm |
| 23:03.03 | scanlime | the VERBOSE flag to make sure lives up to its name |
| 23:03.18 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:03.19 | scanlime | damn we use a long gcc command line |
| 23:03.23 | ChipX86 | make VERBOSE=1? |
| 23:03.34 | ChipX86 | heh that's why we hide it |
| 23:03.34 | scanlime | VERBOSE=1 PROFILE=1 NOSTATS=1 |
| 23:03.37 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 23:03.47 | scanlime | recompiling the whole blasted thing for gprof support |
| 23:04.05 | scanlime | but it turns out that to enable both profiling and kstats/ustats you have to do some odd SIGPROF trickery that seems to be broken in main |
| 23:04.23 | scanlime | and then the build system has trouble finding libc_p.a and friends |
| 23:04.29 | scanlime | I just littered my bora-root with symlinks to 'fix' it |
| 23:04.40 | purple_cow | owww |
| 23:04.43 | purple_cow | hands fozen |
| 23:05.31 | purple_cow | scanlime: gprof is kinda sucky |
| 23:05.40 | scanlime | kinda |
| 23:05.42 | purple_cow | sysprof is kinda awesome :) |
| 23:05.55 | scanlime | hmm, I should try that |
| 23:05.58 | scanlime | it works much like oprofile, no? |
| 23:06.52 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 23:08.19 | scanlime | bleh.. people that make puns on the -l<foo> linker option piss me off |
| 23:08.23 | scanlime | libiberty is the worst |
| 23:08.37 | scanlime | libowfat is almost as bad |
| 23:10.08 | purple_cow | kcachegrind is also pretty awesome |
| 23:10.33 | scanlime | yes |
| 23:10.45 | CIA-4 | spacegrant: 03dkuester * r1841 10mck/ (Cx/assigned-names.conf data/Cx/ data/Cx/assigned-names.conf): oops, forgot to check this in |
| 23:10.57 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:11.51 | scanlime | hm, only 267 symbols |
| 23:13.16 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 23:13.46 | purple_cow | yay for the CS department feeding/boozing darth_mall & me in exchange for us complaining about the CS dept |
| 23:13.56 | darth_mall | heh |
| 23:14.06 | darth_mall | speaking of feeding, I'm starving |
| 23:14.06 | scanlime | micah@micah-lx:~/download/sysprof-1.0$ ./sysprof |
| 23:14.06 | scanlime | Segmentation fault |
| 23:14.15 | purple_cow | hmm, me too |
| 23:16.17 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9688 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: A few minor changes before adding Deanna's changes. |
| 23:16.32 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.33 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.33 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.37 | scanlime | that amuses me |
| 23:17.27 | file | numist: stop breaking stuff further |
| 23:17.32 | numist | :( |
| 23:17.44 | numist | I got it to ask for my password :P |
| 23:17.59 | numist | and, assuming that it gets the info from /etc/passwd... somethings broke |
| 23:19.24 | scanlime | I'm kinda curious how sysprof deals with vmware world-switches |
| 23:23.59 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 23:24.25 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa24w-142167049176.nb.aliant.net) |
| 23:28.44 | purple_cow | ack, turkey up my nose |
| 23:29.43 | darth_mall | hah! take that! |
| 23:29.59 | scanlime | it would be nice if sysprof made it a little more obvious which file a symbol is from |
| 23:30.08 | scanlime | even which process would help |
| 23:36.33 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9689 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Deanna's changes, spellcheck, add survey questions to appendix. |
| 23:38.05 | slimspace | ajax rules |
| 23:38.25 | scanlime | nobody liked DHTML or Javascript, but now AJAX is so popular... |
| 23:38.31 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:38.44 | scanlime | pff, CGI |
| 23:38.46 | purple_cow | scanlime: i liked DHTML! |
| 23:38.52 | slimspace | All that loaded dynamically when the appropriate box is displayed |
| 23:39.01 | scanlime | what the hell! |
| 23:39.21 | scanlime | now that I have sysprof running, my vmware is running really fast |
| 23:39.29 | purple_cow | haha |
| 23:39.48 | purple_cow | sysprof shouldn't really slow down anything very much, since it's just a sampling profiler |
| 23:40.06 | scanlime | ah, if I bang on the keyboard I can still get vmx to chomp CPU |
| 23:40.08 | slimspace | darth_mall: http://71.211.173.50/~darkstar62/teaching_boxes/new_box.html |
| 23:40.12 | slimspace | darth_mall: http://71.211.173.50/~darkstar62/teaching_boxes/new_lesson.html |
| 23:40.55 | slimspace | saving doesn't quite work yet |
| 23:41.08 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:41.09 | purple_cow | oh good god |
| 23:41.20 | scanlime | I think sysprof just shows all the guest OS's time as "in kernel" |
| 23:41.24 | purple_cow | i think the "API Programming" course might not be what i thought it was |
| 23:41.28 | purple_cow | i thought it was about API design |
| 23:41.35 | purple_cow | but it looks like it might be about the win32 api |
| 23:41.38 | scanlime | ewwwww |
| 23:41.42 | scanlime | how is that possible? |
| 23:42.01 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9690 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: Rearranging appendices. Spellcheck. |
| 23:43.17 | scanlime | hahaha, wowee |
| 23:43.30 | scanlime | the actual USB core is using so little time on this profile it's not even funny |
| 23:43.57 | scanlime | about 60% of the time spent on USB is just writing the debug log |
| 23:44.51 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9691 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: |
| 23:44.51 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Remove the blank pages because it will be cheaper to print without them, though |
| 23:44.51 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: more annoying. |
| 23:45.28 | darth_mall | slimspace: the pages don't load. firefox is just spinning |
| 23:46.06 | darth_mall | ugh... too freaking much to do |
| 23:46.53 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 23:47.11 | slimspace | oh |
| 23:47.18 | slimspace | add a :8000 to that IP |
| 23:48.04 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9692 10teaching_boxes/docs/final_report/report.tex: |
| 23:48.05 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Put list of figures on its own page since it was taking up the top 2 lines |
| 23:48.05 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: anyway |
| 23:48.15 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 23:48.23 | purple_cow | i have no idea what all i'm going to take next semester =/ |
| 23:48.37 | darth_mall | take natural language processing with me ^^ |
| 23:49.12 | scanlime | take underwater basket physics |
| 23:49.17 | ChipX86 | interpretive basket weaving |
| 23:49.39 | *** join/#tacobeam hardwire (n=hardwire@209-193-36-94-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) |
| 23:49.41 | hardwire | nyah |
| 23:50.41 | purple_cow | darth_mall: might have to |
| 23:50.44 | purple_cow | it's so early though :( |
| 23:50.46 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 23:50.51 | darth_mall | but Martin's cool |
| 23:54.37 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:54.43 | purple_cow | maybe i'll take the grad version of liz's course ;) |
| 23:57.02 | purple_cow | ok, emails sent to clayton & liz |
| 23:57.07 | purple_cow | and michael main |
| 23:57.26 | purple_cow | if it turns out that the api course is actually a win32 api course, i'll email martin about NLP |
