| 00:19.11 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2327 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-person.c): Properly create a "me" person when being sent one. Also, I think I accidentally fixed a bug in person signatures. |
| 00:19.46 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2328 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/core.c): Append an actual D-BUS array of services in GetServices and of people in GetPeople. |
| 00:27.25 | TD | ChipX86: hm |
| 00:27.33 | TD | ChipX86: i've got the start of an extension for local file completion |
| 00:27.39 | TD | unfortunately firefox autocomplete seems buggy .... |
| 00:34.28 | TD | sometimes the results i feed back don't show up |
| 00:34.32 | TD | for no obvious reason |
| 00:35.05 | ChipX86 | that sucks :/ |
| 00:35.14 | kergoth | doh :( |
| 00:35.45 | TD | well |
| 00:35.48 | TD | they "show" as blank rows |
| 00:35.50 | file | what a silly error in this software, if you hit Alt+F4 to close a dialog the program either crashes - or gives Access Violations on anything you try to do afterwards |
| 00:35.53 | TD | it's all very confusing |
| 00:36.01 | TD | the autocomplete interface in firefox is async |
| 00:36.05 | TD | but, not threaded (?!) |
| 00:36.09 | ChipX86 | ick |
| 00:36.17 | TD | it all seems driven off timers and stuff. i'm feeding back results straight away as if it was sync |
| 00:36.21 | TD | maybe that's the problem |
| 00:36.50 | file | ooh my bug report is in the future |
| 00:40.03 | scanlime | mm |
| 00:40.32 | file | hail scanlime |
| 00:40.41 | scanlime | food coma again.. or maybe lack of sleep catching up to me |
| 00:41.28 | kergoth | woot, the freshly built 1.5-rc3 for x86_64 is all not crashy |
| 00:41.55 | kergoth | and doesnt experience the odd crashes the one in breezy has |
| 00:41.55 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 00:41.57 | kergoth | spiffy |
| 00:42.01 | kergoth | no more crashes at curse gaming |
| 00:42.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:45.27 | kergoth | aww |
| 00:45.32 | kergoth | the theme i use isnt compatible with 1.5 |
| 00:45.35 | kergoth | http://phoenity.com/firefox.html |
| 00:45.51 | file | kergoth: the world is against you |
| 00:45.56 | kergoth | :( |
| 00:45.58 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:46.07 | file | ChipX86: and you! |
| 00:46.15 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:46.24 | kergoth | damn world |
| 00:48.58 | kergoth | ow |
| 00:49.08 | kergoth | i get a pile of javascript errors from foxpose clicking on the icon :( |
| 00:49.09 | kergoth | doesnt work |
| 00:49.41 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 00:49.53 | ChipX86 | Nokia claims to have sold 1-2 billion 770s |
| 00:49.58 | kergoth | nsIDOMHTMLCanvasElement |
| 00:49.59 | kergoth | meh |
| 00:50.03 | kergoth | ChipX86: wow |
| 00:50.08 | kergoth | that seems excessive |
| 00:50.23 | ChipX86 | well, this guy from Nokia |
| 00:50.38 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:50.47 | ChipX86 | it may be a joke, because then he links to a dilbert strip |
| 00:50.50 | ChipX86 | http://www.unitedmedia.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20051118.html |
| 00:50.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:56.50 | JayPee | scanlime: yo |
| 01:04.46 | kergoth | i like the new firefox. seems nice |
| 01:08.44 | JayPee | how different is it from the old firefox? |
| 01:09.07 | ChipX86 | new improved support for ajax and websites with tags |
| 01:09.28 | JayPee | ChipX86: please tell me there's more. |
| 01:09.34 | ChipX86 | I'm kidding |
| 01:10.11 | JayPee | ChipX86: I thought maybe it would include some VM technology |
| 01:10.16 | JayPee | (you know, since VMs solve all problems) |
| 01:10.20 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 01:10.31 | ChipX86 | go to a webpage, it downloads a VM and plays it in the browser |
| 01:10.36 | ChipX86 | screw ActiveX |
| 01:17.43 | file | I think the 770 will do well as a developer's/hacking platform ;) |
| 01:18.32 | file | actually by saying that it'll probably do horribly... because I'm bad luck |
| 01:20.53 | rioter | interesting |
| 01:21.07 | rioter | so if i buy shares, i should get you to say that the competing company will do well |
| 01:21.26 | file | exactly |
| 01:21.36 | rioter | i think we can all get very rich |
| 01:21.45 | file | I concur |
| 01:26.14 | JayPee | god |
| 01:26.16 | JayPee | it feels so late |
| 01:26.20 | JayPee | stupid sun going down |
| 01:26.20 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:26.21 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 01:26.25 | ChipX86 | did we want to do a hackfest? |
| 01:26.40 | JayPee | I could be up for that |
| 01:26.49 | JayPee | I'm sitting here on my couch, listening to Radiohead, and hacking *anyway* ;-) |
| 01:26.56 | ChipX86 | same, but watching JoA |
| 01:27.14 | JayPee | I think I'd want to do it (somewhere != Happy_Donuts), though |
| 01:27.58 | rioter | same, well im reading atm, but when i finish i shall be hacking, but im listning to skydom |
| 01:28.33 | JayPee | rioter: ;-) |
| 01:28.43 | file | silly hackers |
| 01:28.56 | rioter | new pda, i have to code something with the new api :P |
| 01:29.43 | file | Outlook hates one of my e-mail folders... and it's only 20k :\ |
| 01:29.45 | JayPee | hah |
| 01:34.00 | rioter | anyone know if a sata 2 drive will work in a ordinary sata port? |
| 01:35.41 | kergoth | re: new firefox: faster browser navigation, improvements to popup blocking, drag & drop tab reordering, etc |
| 01:39.30 | scanlime | 1.5 is out? |
| 01:39.41 | JayPee | scanlime: one of the betas |
| 01:40.11 | scanlime | well, they've had betas for a while now... |
| 01:40.18 | JayPee | one of the new betas? |
| 01:40.19 | JayPee | ;-) |
| 01:40.21 | scanlime | kergoth: but yay, you should be able to run http://navi.cx/~micah/de-jong-canvas.html |
| 01:52.14 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@71-211-173-50.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 01:53.31 | ChipX86 | back |
| 01:53.41 | ChipX86 | JayPee: ok. Could do it at my place |
| 01:53.47 | ChipX86 | net connection's fairly good |
| 01:53.49 | ChipX86 | comfy furniture |
| 01:53.50 | scanlime | oh boy, another IRC server I've never heard of... |
| 01:54.12 | scanlime | hmm |
| 01:54.22 | scanlime | and you have video games, for if we get tired of hacking? :) |
| 01:54.28 | ChipX86 | excellent point :) |
| 01:54.30 | ChipX86 | that I do |
| 01:54.49 | ChipX86 | we could do a food run and then hack |
| 01:55.26 | file | scanlime: lest you bring on another food coma? |
| 01:55.28 | ChipX86 | s/food/snacks/ |
| 01:55.33 | ChipX86 | caffeine, etc |
| 01:55.38 | scanlime | beer! :P |
| 01:55.43 | JayPee | beer |
| 01:55.44 | ChipX86 | got beer |
| 01:55.44 | JayPee | haha |
| 01:55.48 | ChipX86 | sierra nevada |
| 01:56.02 | JayPee | we can have any food you want, as long as it's not sushi or Italian (including pizza) |
| 01:56.06 | JayPee | (picky, aren't I) |
| 01:56.09 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:56.14 | scanlime | heheh |
| 01:56.20 | file | not picky enough |
| 01:56.22 | scanlime | well, I've already got tons of pizza in my fridge |
| 01:56.26 | file | you should refuse to eat any food unless it's purple |
| 01:56.29 | scanlime | lots of leftovers from dinner firday night |
| 01:56.33 | scanlime | friday even |
| 01:56.38 | kergoth | scanlime: heh, that page doesnt appear to be doing anything. i wonder if something is up with my js :( |
| 01:56.56 | scanlime | kergoth: haven't tested it in a while, could be something they changed in firefox broke it :P |
| 01:56.58 | scanlime | kergoth: got any js errors? |
| 01:57.06 | JayPee | thing is, I've had pizza and italian for like... the last 3 meals. |
| 01:57.16 | JayPee | and I'm just not in a sushi mood. |
| 01:57.23 | JayPee | see, my reasoning is simple! |
| 01:57.37 | ChipX86 | yeah I think I'm maxed out on sushi for a while |
| 01:57.42 | ChipX86 | wayyy too much latel |
| 01:57.42 | ChipX86 | y |
| 01:59.09 | scanlime | hey, GUESS WHAT? |
| 01:59.17 | scanlime | the IRC server... that I've never heard of... |
| 01:59.19 | scanlime | it's broken! |
| 01:59.20 | JayPee | WHAT?!?! |
| 01:59.24 | JayPee | :-o |
| 01:59.28 | scanlime | SHOCKING, I know! |
| 01:59.48 | scanlime | 'Closing Link: flapjack.navi.cx (No more connections allowed in your connection class)' |
| 01:59.50 | scanlime | blahr |
| 02:00.40 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 02:01.32 | file | it's a sign of things to come for tonight |
| 02:01.35 | JayPee | hrm |
| 02:01.39 | JayPee | this documentation lied. |
| 02:03.01 | JayPee | actually, maybe it didn't |
| 02:03.04 | JayPee | maybe it only half-lied |
| 02:04.58 | kergoth | scanlime: nope, no errors |
| 02:10.18 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9434 10teaching_boxes/web/scripts/lesson_plan.js: Use the id attribute instead of getAttribute("id") |
| 02:10.49 | slimspace | darth_mall: are those lo-fi mockups online the most recent? |
| 02:10.57 | darth_mall | I think so |
| 02:10.58 | JayPee | scanlime: I meant to ask you something |
| 02:11.07 | JayPee | is mozilla.org hooked into CIA? |
| 02:11.10 | slimspace | darth_mall: cool. Just making sure I'm designing to the right stuff |
| 02:12.19 | scanlime | JayPee: nope |
| 02:12.29 | JayPee | ah |
| 02:12.29 | JayPee | k |
| 02:12.36 | JayPee | ChipX86 and I were musing about that |
| 02:12.48 | scanlime | feel free to add it once you work there ;) |
| 02:13.06 | JayPee | that's what we were talking about. ;-) |
| 02:13.22 | scanlime | yay.. 'cuz just what I need is more server load |
| 02:13.24 | scanlime | ;) |
| 02:13.34 | JayPee | I thought so |
| 02:13.40 | slimspace | darth_mall: what stuff are you working on right now, so we don't step over each other's toes? |
| 02:13.51 | scanlime | nah, it's cool that CIA is getting so popular.. I just need to make sure the hardware and software keep up |
| 02:13.57 | darth_mall | well, I'm just fiddling with the removal stuff |
| 02:14.01 | darth_mall | hang on one sec |
| 02:14.39 | JayPee | dammit. |
| 02:14.56 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9435 10teaching_boxes/web/scripts/lesson_plan.js: Associative arrays rock |
| 02:15.45 | scanlime | wow.. almost a megabyte of traffic just for robots.txt so far this month |
| 02:16.00 | darth_mall | slimspace: how about I lay off the javascript stuff now and let you finish it? or is there something else you would prefer to work on |
| 02:16.06 | scanlime | and my robots.txt is 4 lines :P |
| 02:16.18 | darth_mall | ooh... scanlime has 4 robots =D |
| 02:16.32 | slimspace | darth_mall: that's fine with me. What would you work on? |
| 02:16.44 | darth_mall | XML stuff |
| 02:17.00 | slimspace | ah. Then I could use some AJAX and load that up automatically :) |
| 02:17.04 | darth_mall | I want a DTD for the XML, and we need something to write the XML |
| 02:17.34 | slimspace | sounds good |
| 02:17.44 | ChipX86 | scanlime, JayPee: so does 8ish sound alright? |
| 02:18.00 | scanlime | ChipX86: sure. I might take a nap before then :P |
| 02:18.14 | JayPee | hah |
| 02:18.15 | JayPee | nap. |
| 02:18.18 | darth_mall | slimspace: one thing we still need from the form is the descriptions shown in the dialog should also be displayed next to the field name in the form |
| 02:18.27 | JayPee | ChipX86: should I eat dinner before, or? |
| 02:18.46 | darth_mall | oh... and if you could figure out how to remove the fields from the field array in lessons when they're deleted, that would be awesome ^^ |
| 02:18.49 | ChipX86 | JayPee: I'm up for dinner. We could do that a bit earlier I suppose. brb, phone |
| 02:18.55 | slimspace | darth_mall: alright, that's easy enough |
| 02:19.02 | JayPee | ChipX86: alright; I'll ping you when I get out of the shower |
| 02:19.07 | JayPee | I need to take one of those |
| 02:21.02 | darth_mall | slimspace: do you mean we can use AJAX to write out the lesson plans to XML? |
| 02:21.42 | slimspace | darth_mall: well, we'd use AJAX to communicate the data to our web-server, which would then write the XML files itself. The AJAX could also load up the files from the web server and parse the XML into DOM objects |
| 02:22.08 | darth_mall | so we'd still need something like a cgi script server side to write to disk |
| 02:22.15 | slimspace | or we could just form the xml ourselves in javascript, use AJAX to do a web-server POST, and just do that. |
| 02:23.32 | slimspace | it's an idea. I'd rather not do it that way, but we could |
| 02:24.13 | darth_mall | seems like it'd be a little cleaner to do it server side |
| 02:25.33 | slimspace | I agree |
| 02:28.48 | darth_mall | guh... even the commercials for Rent make me want to be sick |
| 02:29.57 | file[laptop] | gonkulator: away with you! |
| 02:30.07 | gonkulator | later file[laptop] |
| 02:40.00 | darth_mall | it's a good thing Usher now thinks he's an action hero >< |
| 02:40.37 | rioter | at least he has stuck to one name unlike some of those other rap people, i refuse to call them artists |
| 02:45.05 | darth_mall | you'd think Smirnoff could've hard someone with a better Russian accent for their commercials |
| 02:59.25 | JayPee | ChipX86: how does Subway sound? |
| 03:01.10 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r9436 10teaching_boxes/web/ (css/style.css scripts/lesson_plan.js): |
| 03:01.10 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Make things a little easier to work with. Now we have global definitions for |
| 03:01.10 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: required and optional fields, along with their descriptions and field types. |
| 03:01.10 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Also display descriptions underneath the name of the field for all fields. |
| 03:03.49 | ChipX86 | JayPee: not a huge Subway fan |
| 03:04.08 | ChipX86 | actually I'm not so sure how much I'm up for dinner, the more I think about it. Had some food earlier that disagreed with me |
| 03:04.25 | JayPee | ChipX86: yeah; ok; I'll just get something on the way over. 8, right? |
| 03:04.29 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:04.35 | JayPee | Do I need to pick anything up? |
| 03:04.41 | JayPee | pop/chips/snacks/etc.? |
| 03:04.48 | JayPee | donuts? ;-) |
| 03:04.54 | ChipX86 | hmm, caffeine (mountain drew or something) wouldn't hurt :) |
| 03:04.57 | ChipX86 | er, dew |
| 03:05.08 | JayPee | note a huge dew fan, but I'll pick that and something else up |
| 03:05.12 | ChipX86 | what kind of snacks would you guys want? |
| 03:05.18 | JayPee | who all is coming? |
| 03:05.24 | ChipX86 | I think just you, scanlime and I |
| 03:05.44 | JayPee | ah |
| 03:05.49 | JayPee | and scanlime's asleep (probably) |
| 03:05.57 | ChipX86 | oh yeah |
| 03:06.10 | ChipX86 | I have ruffles |
| 03:06.18 | ChipX86 | and not much else as far as snacks go |
| 03:06.25 | JayPee | alright |
| 03:06.29 | JayPee | I'll find somehting |
| 03:06.38 | JayPee | are you anti-any-sort-of-snack? |
| 03:07.15 | ChipX86 | I have a philosophical hatred of dried fruit |
| 03:07.23 | ChipX86 | dried fruit killed my father |
| 03:07.55 | JayPee | ChipX86: is your name Eningo Montoya? |
| 03:07.56 | ChipX86 | there are snacks I dislike, but there aren't many, and I'll just not eat whatever I dislike :) |
| 03:08.10 | ChipX86 | yes. I am Eningo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die. |
| 03:08.23 | JayPee | heh |
| 03:08.40 | JayPee | alright; I'll stop by the store and get some caffeine/chips |
| 03:08.49 | ChipX86 | if you like, feel free to call me if you're unsure about a snack, but I'll probably be fine with it |
| 03:09.33 | JayPee | ok |
| 03:10.26 | ChipX86 | hmm, trying to think of what sounds particularly good |
| 03:16.23 | JayPee | well, let me know |
| 03:16.29 | JayPee | I'll be leaving in... oh... 20 minutes or os |
| 03:17.33 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 03:19.32 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9437 10teaching_boxes/web/lesson_plan.dtd: Rudimentary DTD for our lesson plan XML |
| 03:21.19 | darth_mall | yay puppies! |
| 03:21.49 | darth_mall | gah... almost did another `:wq' in x-g... |
| 03:21.57 | ChipX86 | JayPee: hmm.. maybe I should eat a sandwich.. mind picking up a ham sandwich (lettuce, tomato, no cheese)? |
| 03:22.24 | ChipX86 | also let me know what I owe you. Should have some cash on me |
| 03:23.02 | JayPee | ChipX86: I thought you weren't a Subway fan? |
| 03:23.12 | ChipX86 | I'm not |
| 03:23.21 | ChipX86 | but I feel like I should eat something. Feeling lethargic today |
| 03:23.29 | JayPee | heh |
| 03:23.30 | JayPee | k |
| 03:23.47 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9438 10teaching_boxes/web/ (lesson_plan.dtd teaching_box.dtd): Small teaching box definition. Also comments. |
| 03:23.49 | JayPee | lettuce, tomato, no cheese, any mayo/salt/pepper/oil/etc.? |
| 03:24.05 | ChipX86 | mustard and mayo |
| 03:24.23 | ChipX86 | oh no, my head! |
| 03:24.29 | darth_mall | yay! head! |
| 03:24.42 | JayPee | alright; ham, lettuce, tomato, mayo, mustard, nothing else, on white |
| 03:24.45 | JayPee | correct? |
| 03:24.53 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:24.56 | JayPee | k |
| 03:24.59 | ChipX86 | thanks |
| 03:25.01 | file[laptop] | it's like a sub bar! |
| 03:29.07 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9439 10teaching_boxes/web/lesson_plan.dtd: More comments... |
| 03:32.00 | scanlime | yawn |
| 03:32.47 | JayPee | scanlime: report your snack preferences, if any |
| 03:32.59 | scanlime | hmmm |
| 03:33.02 | scanlime | mountain dew? :) |
| 03:33.15 | JayPee | that's on the list. |
| 03:33.16 | scanlime | but I might just swing by a grocery store and grab stuff on the way too |
| 03:33.22 | JayPee | heh |
| 03:33.28 | JayPee | then we really should coordinate. ;-) |
| 03:33.38 | JayPee | "There's 18 gallons of Mtn. Dew... AND NOTHING ELSE." |
| 03:33.44 | scanlime | hehe, I'm fine with that |
| 03:33.54 | *** join/#tacobeam pfault (i=pagefaul@Toronto-HSE-ppp3857544.sympatico.ca) |
| 03:35.28 | scanlime | hm. The only snack food that seems at all appealing right now would be sun chips |
| 03:36.28 | file[laptop] | I could go for some Miss Vickie's Sea Salt and Malt Vinegar chips |
| 03:37.11 | darth_mall | it'd be like a LAN party |
| 03:37.13 | scanlime | hm |
| 03:37.15 | darth_mall | Mt. Dew and nothing else |
| 03:37.23 | scanlime | I might grab some small quantity of Red Bull |
| 03:37.26 | darth_mall | speaking of LAN parties... |
| 03:37.35 | scanlime | darth_mall: oh? :) |
| 03:37.38 | darth_mall | scanlime: we should work something out for New Year's this year, if you're going to be back in town |
| 03:37.48 | darth_mall | Jai and Brandy are staying in Cali for the holidays >< |
| 03:37.53 | scanlime | hah |
| 03:37.59 | darth_mall | s/Brandy/Brandi/ |
| 03:38.15 | scanlime | well.. I was planning on doing something with Jen for new years, but plans are still muchly flexible at this point |
| 03:38.24 | darth_mall | oh... I see how it is... |
| 03:38.29 | darth_mall | *sniff* :'( |
| 03:38.39 | scanlime | sorry, I just don't love you as much as jen ;) |
| 03:38.45 | darth_mall | *sniff* |
| 03:38.47 | scanlime | you're an inferior person |
| 03:38.50 | JayPee | haha |
| 03:38.52 | scanlime | and an awful friend |
| 03:38.55 | darth_mall | yeah... can't argue with that |
| 03:38.55 | scanlime | and I'm never marrying you! |
| 03:39.01 | darth_mall | dammit! |
| 03:39.06 | darth_mall | there goes my US citizenship |
| 03:39.10 | scanlime | yes! |
| 03:39.28 | JayPee | scanlime: do you want to get Mtn. Dew and... Coke and... whatever else liquidy? |
| 03:39.31 | JayPee | I'll pick up saltiness? |
| 03:39.41 | scanlime | JayPee: sounds good |
| 03:39.51 | JayPee | alright |
| 03:39.53 | JayPee | heh |
| 03:39.55 | JayPee | that's about right |
| 03:40.03 | JayPee | ChipX86: do you have cheese? |
| 03:40.13 | JayPee | like, if I bought crackers. Cheese n' crackers... |
| 03:44.19 | JayPee | I'll take that as a no |
| 03:54.18 | ChipX86 | back |
| 03:54.22 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 03:54.26 | ChipX86 | cheezits :) |
| 03:54.44 | ChipX86 | scanlime: coming over too? |
| 04:01.28 | darth_mall | what the hell |
| 04:01.41 | darth_mall | why are they running Batman the movie on cartoon network? |
| 04:01.52 | darth_mall | last I checked, Michael Keaton wasn't animated |
| 04:16.53 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: obviously you're using a wrong definition of the word "cartoon" |
| 04:18.24 | darth_mall | obviously |
| 04:20.57 | darth_mall | man I hate listening to these chumps on toonami mispronounce japanese words |
| 04:24.23 | kergoth | yay dr demento |
| 04:24.39 | kergoth | "it just takes a smidgen.. to poison a pidgeon in the park!" |
| 04:26.15 | darth_mall | that's not Dr. Demento, it's Tom Lehrer |
| 04:33.29 | lurgy | yay chex mix |
| 04:33.44 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03darkstar62 * r9440 10teaching_boxes/web/ (css/style.css new_lesson.html scripts/lesson_plan.js): We've got a working toolbar. Also added an 'Add New Field' dialog, and made its button work. This code is really getting messy... |
| 04:41.48 | darth_mall | Jack Nicholson made such a good Joker |
| 04:59.47 | scanlime | woop |
| 05:11.30 | JayPee | whee |
| 05:13.23 | ChipX86 | foom |
| 05:18.01 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@adsl-68-127-48-182.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 05:18.03 | ChipX86 | heya |
| 05:18.14 | spooklight | hi :) |
| 05:36.09 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 05:36.30 | purple_cow | and godamn, my apartment is freezing |
| 05:36.46 | lurgy | purple_cow: the good news is i went to early music concert and got an extra slip |
| 05:37.07 | lurgy | purple_cow: the bad news is the convo girl in her infinite laziness didn't make it back at the end of the concert |
| 05:37.14 | lurgy | so you'll have to give the slip to the main office |
| 05:37.23 | purple_cow | lurgy: sweet |
| 05:39.45 | scanlime | hiya purple_cow |
| 05:40.08 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r366 10libsexy/ (21 files in 4 dirs): plane + bus hacking |
| 05:41.36 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how'd your interview go? |
| 05:41.48 | purple_cow | darth_mall: pretty well, i think |
| 05:42.27 | darth_mall | cool |
| 05:42.51 | purple_cow | solved some cool problems and one crappy problem :P |
| 05:43.46 | purple_cow | lurgy: re notification hoo-haw, you grab libnotify/notification-daemon from galago svn, and make sure you give configure the right dbus paths for the daemon |
| 05:43.56 | ChipX86 | and ate hopefully good food and played games |
| 05:44.02 | ChipX86 | and kicked our asses at said games |
| 05:44.06 | lurgy | purple_cow: cool |
| 05:45.08 | scanlime | my ass *still* hurts from purple_cow's mario-kart-fu :P |
| 05:45.23 | purple_cow | scanlime: i swear, i don't know how i can still do that |
| 05:45.55 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it's like riding a bike ^^ |
| 05:45.59 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:45.59 | darth_mall | you and I played that game a lot |
| 05:46.05 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 05:46.27 | purple_cow | i generally fall into lava less when riding a bike than i did yesterday |
| 05:46.36 | ChipX86 | that's where we differ |
| 05:46.37 | darth_mall | well then, ride harder |
| 05:49.15 | purple_cow | man |
| 05:49.20 | darth_mall | woman |
| 05:49.40 | purple_cow | i'm still twitching to implement the UI i came up with in robert baesman's interview |
| 05:49.54 | darth_mall | were there monkeys? |
| 05:50.04 | purple_cow | no |
| 05:50.08 | darth_mall | aww |
| 05:53.18 | scanlime | purple_cow: we think you need to use a menu like Fyre's "Go" thingy :) |
| 05:53.52 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:53.56 | purple_cow | it is a good menu |
| 05:54.04 | scanlime | it is.. in a creepy nonlinear sort of way |
| 05:54.14 | scanlime | hmm.. my keyboard is squeaking |
| 05:54.22 | scanlime | and my laptop isn't even IBM |
| 05:57.22 | kergoth | pfault: damn, arathi basin at level 60 is fun :) |
| 05:57.35 | purple_cow | i actually thought about that menu before i decided on my solution |
| 05:58.46 | scanlime | haha |
| 06:01.39 | purple_cow | oof |
| 06:01.45 | purple_cow | time to implement sexy_canvas_store_get_iter :P |
| 06:02.00 | purple_cow | which means, i think, implementing tree-flattening and a bsp tree |
| 06:02.16 | scanlime | hehe |
| 06:02.20 | scanlime | yes, that's where the meat is |
| 06:02.31 | scanlime | so what's the signature for that function look like? |
| 06:03.00 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.00 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:03.08 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r367 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-store.c: stub iter retrieval/navigation functions |
| 06:03.08 | scanlime | ew |
| 06:03.12 | purple_cow | ew? |
| 06:03.27 | scanlime | the region shouldn't be a rectangle, necessarily.. |
| 06:03.42 | ChipX86 | it should be a 4-dimensional circle |
| 06:03.46 | purple_cow | yeah. atm i'm iterating through a GdkRegion in some outer code |
| 06:03.53 | purple_cow | i should probably move that to be inside get_iter |
| 06:03.57 | purple_cow | since there may be overlaps |
| 06:04.10 | scanlime | well.. let's think about the different use cases for these iters |
| 06:04.30 | scanlime | if you want to draw the items in your viewport (probably the most common case) you'd want a GdkRegion, or something compatible with that |
| 06:04.47 | scanlime | if you're picking items with the cursor, you'd want a point- but you could settle for a 1x1 or even 0x0 rectangle |
| 06:05.04 | scanlime | if you're selecting items by dragging a box around them, a rectangle works |
| 06:05.09 | scanlime | for all those use cases a GdkRegion would be great |
| 06:05.29 | scanlime | for collision detection it wouldn't be- but since the iter is only returning a potentially-visible-set, that's probably alright |
| 06:06.20 | scanlime | how about making it get_iter_from_region(), to leave the possibility open of getting iters from more complex boundary definitions? |
| 06:08.11 | purple_cow | scanlime: sounds good |
| 06:08.28 | scanlime | 'course, with fewer branches CIA will probably be slower |
| 06:09.26 | purple_cow | haha |
| 06:10.47 | scanlime | hm. wonder if CIA completely pukes on unicode inside project names |
| 06:15.24 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r368 10libsexy/libsexy/ (4 files): change _get_iter to _get_iter_from_region, to open the door for other, more specialized _get_iter functions |
| 06:15.25 | purple_cow | bleh, i don't want to do this next part |
| 06:15.28 | purple_cow | it's all big and hard |
| 06:16.02 | purple_cow | i discovered yet another beautifully optimized bit of gnome-canvas code today |
| 06:16.29 | scanlime | oh no |
| 06:16.44 | purple_cow | when it goes to draw the background onto the backing store, instead of drawing inside the rect that it should, it draws from 0,0 |
| 06:17.05 | scanlime | hah, great |
| 06:17.22 | purple_cow | i think the only way that it can work with that is that it must be invalidating the entire microtile array inside libart |
| 06:17.31 | scanlime | next you'll tell me that the backing store is the size of the entire scrollable region, not just the visible area :P |
| 06:17.45 | darth_mall | and how! |
| 06:18.03 | scanlime | well, it can splat background rectangles anywhere it wants on the backing store if it isn't going to blit those areas of the backing store to the window |
| 06:18.19 | purple_cow | ooh |
| 06:18.48 | slimspace | sigh |
| 06:20.34 | purple_cow | oh wow, even better |
| 06:20.38 | purple_cow | a usenix paper on it |
| 06:20.41 | scanlime | ewww |
| 06:21.00 | purple_cow | ewww? |
| 06:22.00 | scanlime | yes |
| 06:22.02 | darth_mall | ewww! |
| 06:22.06 | scanlime | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! |
| 06:22.17 | scanlime | 'cauze whitepapers are the scourrrge of society |
| 06:22.21 | purple_cow | heh |
| 06:23.25 | purple_cow | ``The GNOME canvas was originally based on the canvas widget in the Tk toolkit[9], which is in turn based on Joel Bartlett's ezd program, which provides structured graphics in a Scheme environment.'' |
| 06:23.29 | purple_cow | it's like x86 all over again |
| 06:25.25 | purple_cow | hah, i like some of the things they list under characteristics |
| 06:25.30 | scanlime | I don't understand how anyone used it for anything useful |
| 06:25.31 | purple_cow | ``Canvas items receive events just as if they were normal X windows or other GTK+ widgets'' |
| 06:25.33 | ChipX86 | "mass suckage?" |
| 06:25.39 | ChipX86 | wow! |
| 06:25.41 | ChipX86 | high-tech |
| 06:26.00 | purple_cow | it's a lie, but it is indeed high-tech |
| 06:29.16 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:29.41 | purple_cow | i wonder if there's a way to compute iters in a deterministic, un-slow way |
| 06:31.42 | purple_cow | seems really wasteful to compute & store a list, then have some kind of _iter_free function that lets the model know when to release it |
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| 06:34.34 | purple_cow | hmm. way i currently have it drawing, the iter has to traverse it by item depth :P |
| 06:35.41 | darth_mall | yay! Steven Seagull movie! |
| 06:36.23 | scanlime | well, changing the storage is going to invalidate the iter anyway right? so you just pick a good traversal algorithm, then stuff all of its state in the iter |
| 06:36.40 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 06:37.01 | lurgy | hmm |
| 06:37.04 | purple_cow | gotta figure out what to do about depth sorting though |
| 06:37.10 | lurgy | i'm gonna have to restart gnome (and dbus?) to get this to work aren't i |
| 06:37.29 | scanlime | ah |
| 06:37.30 | purple_cow | shouldn't have to... |
| 06:37.41 | purple_cow | err, maybe? |
| 06:38.01 | purple_cow | i'm not sure if the session bus can pick up new daemons at runtime or not |
| 06:38.12 | lurgy | yeah, it would be cool if it could |
| 06:38.15 | darth_mall | hehe... tubby bastard |
| 06:38.17 | darth_mall | rofl |
| 06:38.19 | darth_mall | Jerry Orbach |
| 06:38.20 | purple_cow | scanlime: any ideas? |
| 06:38.28 | darth_mall | I wonder if he's ever played anything but a cop |
| 06:39.06 | ChipX86 | purple_cow, lurgy: they made it do that, but I hear htere were bugs and the latest versions are supposed to pull in new daemons better |
| 06:39.33 | lurgy | ok |
| 06:39.46 | lurgy | i doubt i have a dbus that recent |
| 06:40.36 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yes, he was the evil rock'n'roll dude in buck rogers |
| 06:40.45 | scanlime | purple_cow: so you're using a BSP tree? |
| 06:40.45 | darth_mall | Jerry Orbach? |
| 06:40.53 | purple_cow | scanlime: looking at quadtree, actually |
| 06:40.55 | purple_cow | darth_mall: yes |
| 06:41.01 | darth_mall | I need to see that episode |
| 06:41.51 | purple_cow | freevo@david-apt.navi.cx:/mnt/navi/01/media/video/series/Buck_Rogers_In_The_25th_Century/121_space_rockers.avi |
| 06:41.54 | purple_cow | ;-) |
| 06:42.01 | scanlime | purple_cow: hmm.. there's got to be a good way to keep items pre-depth-sorted in the tree |
| 06:43.56 | purple_cow | no real functional difference between bsp and quadtree, though |
| 06:45.03 | scanlime | BSPs are less restrictive in how you build the tree |
| 06:45.54 | scanlime | heh. you might be interested in the data structure I used on my USB analyzer :) |
| 06:46.06 | purple_cow | well, yeah |
| 06:46.10 | purple_cow | what data structure is that? |
| 06:46.27 | scanlime | so, it was kind of like a 1-D BSP, but with some twists |
| 06:46.32 | darth_mall | I want a puppy |
| 06:46.52 | darth_mall | hehe... Beastie Boys on this soundtrack |
| 06:47.03 | scanlime | it had two operations: marking an interval [a, b) as occupied, and testing whether any part of an interval is already occupied |
| 06:47.40 | scanlime | now, it was quantized- so instead of needing lists of items at the leaves of the tree, it just needed a way of marking the entire leaf as occupied |
| 06:48.34 | scanlime | the other twist is that it isn't actually a tree |
| 06:48.41 | scanlime | it's a dictionary of integers |
| 06:49.12 | ChipX86 | I'm in D-BUS message iter nesting hell |
| 06:49.37 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:49.45 | scanlime | each item in the dictionary has an integer and a 'tree level' associated with it- the integer is where in this 1-D space to start, and the tree level is a power of two that indicats how far the interval extends |
| 06:49.48 | purple_cow | the d-bus api for data is pretty crappity |
| 06:49.52 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 06:49.57 | ChipX86 | someday I hope to switch to the glib bindings |
| 06:50.00 | scanlime | the value associated with this dictionary key indicates whether the interval is completely occupied or partially occupied |
| 06:50.02 | ChipX86 | but for now, I'm doing all kinds of fun stuff myself |
| 06:50.07 | scanlime | blah, I need a whiteboard |
| 06:50.42 | scanlime | purple_cow: hard to explain without a whiteboard.. but it all boils down to doing an interval query using just a handful of bit shifts |
| 06:51.13 | purple_cow | neat |
| 06:51.17 | scanlime | I'd show you the code if I had it with me, and it wasn't still proprietary ;) |
| 06:51.28 | purple_cow | argh, what the fuck |
| 06:51.36 | purple_cow | i have to analyze a television commercial for an assignment |
| 06:51.50 | purple_cow | i don't *watch* TV with commercials in it |
| 06:51.50 | scanlime | now with the breath freshening power of clorox bleach! |
| 06:52.03 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: easy assignment |
| 06:52.09 | ChipX86 | "I don't own a TV" |
| 06:52.29 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah 07cia-new-storage * r9441 10/: |
| 06:52.29 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Removing this branch. As much as I'd like to drop a complete shiny new |
| 06:52.29 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: storage backend in all at once, it's more realistic if I first focus on |
| 06:52.29 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: only the new message buffer backend. The message buffer is a fairly |
| 06:52.29 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: self-contained problem, and it's the really urgent step in keeping the |
| 06:52.29 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: server load and disk bloat low. |
| 06:52.55 | scanlime | "My TV's broken, it doesn't show commercials" |
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| 06:56.17 | purple_cow | oh wow, i don't have a bzflag tree rotting in my projects directory |
| 06:57.14 | scanlime | it's probably in the fridge |
| 06:57.52 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@71-211-173-50.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 06:58.27 | lurgy | hmm |
| 06:59.52 | lurgy | hmm, nope, no notification love for me |
| 06:59.53 | lurgy | ah well |
| 07:00.17 | purple_cow | :( |
| 07:00.43 | purple_cow | are you trying the libnotify tests? |
| 07:00.57 | ChipX86 | did you --sysconfdir=/etc ? |
| 07:01.02 | ChipX86 | or whatever the param is |
| 07:01.17 | lurgy | for notification-daemon? |
| 07:01.19 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:01.32 | lurgy | hmm |
| 07:01.35 | lurgy | nope |
| 07:01.40 | ChipX86 | try that :) |
| 07:02.42 | purple_cow | gentoo needs --with-dbus-sys and --with-dbus-system. i don't think sysconfdir matters |
| 07:03.08 | ChipX86 | those two dirs are based on sysconfdir |
| 07:03.22 | purple_cow | yeah, but gentoo's weird |
| 07:03.27 | ChipX86 | yeah, true |
| 07:04.04 | purple_cow | they're /usr/share/dbus-1/services and /etc/dbus-1/system.d, respectively |
| 07:06.08 | scanlime | hmm |
| 07:06.15 | scanlime | CIA's message IDs are going to get really long :( |
| 07:06.32 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@71-211-173-50.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 07:07.10 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r369 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-store.c: some random stupid code while i try to wrap my brain around the real problem |
| 07:07.43 | scanlime | I want a lazy DOM |
| 07:08.12 | scanlime | it only actually reads in as much from disk as necessary to process the queries you send it |
| 07:08.25 | scanlime | hmmmmm |
| 07:13.49 | purple_cow | MY FEET ARE COLD |
| 07:14.11 | dooky | purple_cow: mine were, then I put some slippers on. |
| 07:14.51 | dooky | brr, 55 degrees |
| 07:15.02 | purple_cow | hah |
| 07:15.33 | purple_cow | tomorrow's -high- will be 55 |
| 07:17.49 | dooky | 82 for the high tomorrow |
| 07:18.04 | dooky | http://www.weather.com/activities/other/other/weather/tenday.html?locid=92122 |
| 07:18.05 | dooky | brr! |
| 07:19.36 | scanlime | :P |
| 07:19.59 | dooky | scanlime: what's the weatherl ike in the bay area? |
| 07:20.08 | scanlime | none |
| 07:20.11 | dooky | oh, and did ya meet up with scott his morning? |
| 07:20.15 | scanlime | yep |
| 07:20.22 | dooky | how's he doing? |
| 07:20.29 | scanlime | we made him and carrie walk a bunch, then we had coffee ) |
| 07:20.30 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:20.33 | dooky | lol |
| 07:20.46 | dooky | crazy son of a bitch, works from 8->5, then drives for 8 more hours |
| 07:20.49 | scanlime | hehe |
| 07:20.52 | scanlime | he was tired, yes |
| 07:21.02 | dooky | I guess he does it enough that it's second nature |
| 07:21.09 | scanlime | didn't actually end up with much smalltalk, but he seemed like he was doing fine other than the tiredness |
| 07:21.44 | scanlime | mwahahaha... |
| 07:21.51 | scanlime | I haven't tested this at all, but I think I'll assume it works |
| 07:22.07 | scanlime | SQL-less message storage for CIA, in my working copy |
| 07:22.08 | dooky | k, fire it away |
| 07:22.18 | scanlime | only about a 1200 line diff! |
| 07:22.23 | ChipX86 | D-BUS is just begging for a dbus_message_iter_append_variant function |
| 07:23.39 | scanlime | noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 07:23.46 | scanlime | my laptop is missing docutils! |
| 07:23.58 | dooky | apt-get install! |
| 07:25.11 | purple_cow | scanlime: there are times that i really consider svk ;) |
| 07:25.23 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:26.16 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 07:27.13 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r370 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-item-line.h: fix format of copyright |
| 07:27.22 | purple_cow | yep, making so much progress on this |
| 07:33.11 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r371 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-quadtree.h: add the very very very beginnings of a general quadtree data structure |
| 07:33.36 | scanlime | hah |
| 07:37.22 | scanlime | yay, my super-speedy laptop is going to make this lots o' fun |
| 07:37.47 | ChipX86 | what did I break.. |
| 07:39.43 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:39.55 | purple_cow | is it really worth doing this quadtree in a generic, glibby way? |
| 07:41.01 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9442 10cia/database/init-7.sql: Add a new version of the DB schema, sans the stats_messages table |
| 07:41.58 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9443 10cia/LibCIA/Ruleset.py: Show tracebacks for exceptions that happen during ruleset refresh. This was hiding common database connection errors. |
| 07:45.18 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9444 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Messages.py: Adding the core of the new message backend. This is a file format based on an indexed ring buffer of encoded SAX events. Nothing actually uses this module yet, so no breakage at this point. |
| 07:59.52 | scanlime | eeeyyyyarrrrrr |
| 07:59.55 | scanlime | my laptop grinds to a halt |
| 08:00.17 | scanlime | running firefox and CIA simultaneously |
| 08:00.19 | scanlime | (trying to, at least...) |
| 08:00.42 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r372 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-quadtree.h: icky new() signature |
| 08:02.40 | scanlime | need more ram... |
| 08:03.13 | purple_cow | urk |
| 08:03.15 | purple_cow | bad purple_cow! |
| 08:03.47 | purple_cow | i was starting to think of some way to share point structures between QuadtreeNodes |
| 08:04.55 | scanlime | heh |
| 08:06.45 | purple_cow | well, it *would* save some memory ;) |
| 08:11.32 | scanlime | nice big "back up your database before running this" warning |
| 08:20.51 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9445 10cia/LibCIA/Database.py: Override the default cursor in MySQLdb so that we iterate over results on the server-side rather than downloading the entire result set from mysqld to twistd after a query |
| 08:21.21 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r373 10libsexy/libsexy/ (sexy-quadtree.c sexy-quadtree.h): beginning of some real implementation. fix my icky icky signature, since i realized that half of that data is a dupe of the other half |
| 08:24.57 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:30.22 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9446 10cia/LibCIA/Database.py: |
| 08:30.22 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Blah. Much of CIA doesn't cleanly obey the execute/fetch cycle within one |
| 08:30.22 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: database cursor, so server side cursors won't work everywhere. Make it an |
| 08:30.22 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: off-by-default option to Database.init() so our upgrade scripts can use it |
| 08:30.22 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: without using it in the rest of CIA. |
| 08:31.48 | scanlime | mwahaha.. this will finally weed out all the messages in the database that aren't well-formed XML |
| 08:32.01 | scanlime | it isn't possible to store non-well-formed XML in the new format :) |
| 08:33.41 | purple_cow | ooh, sweet |
| 08:33.46 | purple_cow | pango 1.11.0 is in bmg already |
| 08:35.00 | purple_cow | yipes |
| 08:35.14 | purple_cow | including a .c file in itself makes gcc get angry |
| 08:35.20 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 08:35.22 | ChipX86 | what does it do? |
| 08:35.52 | purple_cow | hundreds upon hundreds of lines of errors |
| 08:35.57 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 08:35.58 | purple_cow | filled beyond my screen's buffer |
| 08:37.07 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r374 10libsexy/libsexy/ (Makefile.am sexy-quadtree.c sexy-quadtree.h): hey look, it compiles |
| 08:37.22 | dooky | purple_cow: what's fun is accidentally putting CC=gcc instead of CC=g++, and then waiting until it gets to the linking part |
| 08:37.27 | dooky | talk about errors-galore |
| 08:39.05 | ChipX86 | hmm, I'm sending a D-BUS message over the wire, but it's not getting to the other end, and only for this message |
| 08:41.51 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r375 10libsexy/libsexy/ (sexy-quadtree.c sexy-quadtree.h): make the position func actually give us object bounds, add the beginnings of an insert function |
| 08:42.37 | purple_cow | oof |
| 08:42.43 | purple_cow | this canvas is going to be so huge |
| 08:44.25 | scanlime | OSError: [Errno 24] Too many open files |
| 08:45.08 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:46.23 | purple_cow | scanlime: /proc/sys/fs/file-max ;-) |
| 08:46.51 | purple_cow | i think |
| 08:47.19 | scanlime | nah, this needs to have a smarter cache |
| 08:47.41 | scanlime | this is trying to open a file for every author or project on CIA :P |
| 08:48.13 | purple_cow | cool |
| 08:49.18 | ChipX86 | grr something is very flakey |
| 08:54.18 | scanlime | haha, this is great |
| 08:54.24 | scanlime | it's mostly a CPU-limited process... |
| 08:54.46 | scanlime | but every 5 seconds or whenever, when bdflush kicks in.. disk light solid for a quarter second or so and CPU goes to zero |
| 08:55.28 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 09:01.02 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9447 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Messages.py: Protect against some really pathological cases in which a particular commit message, if it's the first one delivered to a target, could cause the buffer for that target to become very large |
| 09:01.32 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2329 10libgalago/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:01.32 | CIA-4 | galago: - Implement proper array storage of statuses in a GalagoPerson. |
| 09:01.32 | CIA-4 | galago: - Give GalagoPresence a D-BUS signature. |
| 09:01.32 | CIA-4 | galago: - Fine-tune the unit testing for D-BUS signatures on a per-class basis. |
| 09:03.57 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9448 10cia/LibCIA/ (Cache.py Files.py): |
| 09:03.57 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Committing infrastructure for a more organized way of storing files outside of |
| 09:03.57 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: SQL. This is the first step in implementing db version 7, which I'm splitting up |
| 09:03.57 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: into small commits. On its own, this patch only affects the way cache files are |
| 09:03.57 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: stored. |
| 09:06.22 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 09:06.30 | purple_cow | my hair just went "whee! soft water! *kerpoof*" |
| 09:07.06 | scanlime | hehe |
| 09:07.59 | purple_cow | and as nice as that hotel bathroom was, it's awfully nice to be able to move around in the shower without rubbing up against cold marble |
| 09:12.00 | scanlime | lookit all this malformed XML! |
| 09:12.22 | JayPee | so, I did all that working with the proxy |
| 09:12.27 | JayPee | and I can't get it to work remotely now |
| 09:12.29 | JayPee | *faceplant* |
| 09:15.18 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 09:18.13 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:18.13 | scanlime | +----------+ |
| 09:18.13 | scanlime | | count(*) | |
| 09:18.13 | scanlime | +----------+ |
| 09:18.14 | scanlime | | 895318 | |
| 09:18.14 | scanlime | +----------+ |
| 09:18.16 | scanlime | 1 row in set (3 min 35.48 sec) |
| 09:18.18 | scanlime | *grumble* |
| 09:18.50 | ChipX86 | hah, wow |
| 09:19.29 | scanlime | and this is just the backup of CIA that I have installed on my laptop |
| 09:19.37 | scanlime | the real server probably has a million by now |
| 09:19.44 | ChipX86 | with the commits we've been doing lately |
| 09:19.58 | scanlime | :) |
| 09:20.20 | scanlime | it's nice seeing this script converting huge InnoDB nonsense into tiny little efficient SAX buffers |
| 09:21.30 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2330 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-person.c): When retrieving a person's property, retrieve the value from a variant container. |
| 09:21.31 | JayPee | scanlime: you like watching the server have SAX? |
| 09:21.55 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2331 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/person.c): In Person.GetProperty, return the value in a variant container. |
| 09:21.56 | scanlime | JayPee: I almost called this file format Unisax :P |
| 09:22.08 | scanlime | it incodes SAX events as unicode strings |
| 09:22.12 | scanlime | then UTF-8's that |
| 09:22.21 | JayPee | You and your silly names |
| 09:22.27 | ChipX86 | I miss pyhole |
| 09:22.30 | scanlime | me too |
| 09:22.35 | JayPee | I expect... no *demand* to see pysax. |
| 09:22.47 | scanlime | hah |
| 09:22.55 | purple_cow | ugh, one idiot in #xchat-gnome, and another idiot trying to help him compile stuff on his gentoo system |
| 09:23.11 | scanlime | purple_cow: -O9 --funroll-all-loops-really-fast |
| 09:23.20 | purple_cow | that's not the problem |
| 09:23.47 | JayPee | scanlime: no, no... the Gentoo handbook says -O66 |
| 09:24.19 | scanlime | ah, right |
| 09:24.50 | purple_cow | the problem is that he installed libsexy to a prefix that pkg-config doesn't look in (which on gentoo includes /usr/local :P) |
| 09:24.59 | scanlime | hmm.. so I'm assuming mysql is giving me these rows in the same order it finds them on disk, since I didn't specify any particular sorting. The order I'm seeing is really really stupid.. this might be part of the reason MySQL is performing so badly for the message table |
| 09:25.14 | purple_cow | and they're talking about passing --enable-* flags for various things which are already positive checks inside configure |
| 09:25.59 | purple_cow | like --enable-enchant to libsexy, and --enable-libsexy to xchat-gnome |
| 09:26.17 | scanlime | libegg needs to make me breakfast |
| 09:26.23 | scanlime | and libsexy... |
| 09:27.26 | ChipX86 | I've managed to cause some awesome breakage in D-BUS |
| 09:27.41 | scanlime | I'm so happy I managed to actually reuse a big chunk of code from our Space Grant software on CIA's new message buffer backend :) |
| 09:31.40 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2332 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-service.c): Retrieve the Service flags into an int, and then cast to GalagoServiceFlags to work around some weirdness that I've encountered in the past. |
| 09:42.26 | purple_cow | bleh |
| 09:42.32 | purple_cow | i really don't know where i'm going with this tree stuff |
| 09:45.07 | purple_cow | maybe for now i'll make CanvasStore completely naive and just return everything |
| 09:45.21 | purple_cow | the optimization step can be added later |
| 09:47.59 | scanlime | ahhhh, it's working |
| 09:48.22 | scanlime | purple_cow: that's a good decision |
| 09:48.37 | scanlime | purple_cow: you want to make sure you like the architecture before you pour lots of time into implementing it |
| 09:53.19 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9449 10cia/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 09:53.19 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: This will get a bit more testing before I start converting the live CIA server |
| 09:53.19 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: to db version 7, but here it is! The internal stats interface now uses the new |
| 09:53.19 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: SAX ring buffer format, and an upgrade tool is included to generate the new |
| 09:53.19 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: files from existing mysql data. |
| 10:27.50 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9450 10cia/LibCIA/Web/Template.py: Somehow I bumped all the copyright dates to 2005 except the one that actually shows up on the web, heh. |
| 10:29.25 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 10:35.12 | scanlime | erg |
| 10:35.24 | scanlime | 75 minutes for 200k commits |
| 10:35.25 | scanlime | too slow |
| 10:46.34 | scanlime | wow |
| 10:46.48 | scanlime | if anything is encouraging me to get a faster computer, it's running the commit converter under python's profiler |
| 10:48.32 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 10:48.33 | purple_cow | flat? |
| 10:48.46 | scanlime | I don't know yet |
| 10:48.53 | ChipX86 | yay unit tests |
| 10:49.01 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r376 10libsexy/libsexy/ (4 files): shuffle things around to just return the root for any region query |
| 10:49.06 | scanlime | I'm still waiting on it to run 5k commits with the profiler on |
| 10:49.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: ohh, that kind of running |
| 10:50.36 | scanlime | sigh |
| 10:50.49 | scanlime | it finishes running.. and the output slides right past my scrollback buffer |
| 10:51.07 | purple_cow | no screen? |
| 10:51.33 | scanlime | just urxvt's buffer |
| 10:51.44 | scanlime | but just from the parts I can see, expat is using more than half the CPU |
| 10:51.58 | scanlime | so I doubt there's a way to speed it up amazingly much |
| 10:52.08 | ChipX86 | it's pretty discouraging to me that the D-BUS message signature that D-BUS is returning to me has garbage in it |
| 10:53.28 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 10:53.35 | ChipX86 | had the params reversed. That's my garbage sig |
| 10:54.34 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 10:55.09 | purple_cow | you only figured that out because you complained about it, ya know |
| 10:55.19 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2333 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog tests/check-libgalago.c): Improve the unit tests to compare class-provided signatures and the actual signatures going into a DBusMessage. Also added some utility functions for creating dummy objects. |
| 10:55.24 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yes |
| 10:55.31 | ChipX86 | which is why it's good to talk out loud soemtimes :) |
| 10:59.32 | JayPee | ChipX86: Improving unit tests?!?! |
| 10:59.36 | JayPee | What a waste of time! |
| 11:05.04 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2334 10libgalago/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Tip of the day: Don't use a private structure for a class. Store the data in the class itself. Otherwise it seems there are issues. |
| 11:05.43 | ChipX86 | ah-HA |
| 11:05.45 | ChipX86 | yay unit tests |
| 11:12.04 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r377 10libsexy/libsexy/ (sexy-canvas-item.c sexy-canvas-item.h sexy-canvas.c): pass cairo_ts around like mad! MADNESS! |
| 11:15.11 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2335 10libgalago/ (4 files in 2 dirs): galago_dbus_message_iter_append_object_list() now requires a GType. |
| 11:15.34 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2336 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/account.c src/person.c): Pass a GType to galago_dbus_message_iter_append_object_list(). |
| 11:16.17 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r378 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-item.c: beginnings of cairo state management within plain old scene-graph traversal |
| 11:19.14 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2337 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-dbus.c): galago_dbus_message_iter_append_object_list() now passes all objects in an actual D-BUS array, and galago_dbus_message_iter_get_object_list() now expects an array. |
| 11:21.03 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2338 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-status.c): When building a string, it's best to concatenate the result of a function, rather than the function itself, to the string. Unit tests all pass now. |
| 11:27.44 | scanlime | heh.. when I started CIA, I never thought I'd ever need a buffer that holds 8192 commits |
| 11:27.53 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 11:27.55 | scanlime | furthermore, I never would have considered it a very reasonable size |
| 11:33.34 | ChipX86 | generating properties for gobjects is so fun and easy. It takes practically no time at all! |
| 11:34.03 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 11:37.36 | purple_cow | ugh, getting really late |
| 11:37.55 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 11:42.48 | scanlime | hmm |
| 11:43.05 | scanlime | so I went to all this effort to create what is, apparently, a much slower version of this converter script |
| 11:43.15 | ChipX86 | :(( |
| 11:43.30 | scanlime | I'm tempted to commit it, just in case I want a slower version later |
| 11:43.35 | scanlime | in case this one runs too fast, you know |
| 11:43.42 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 11:44.38 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2339 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-status.c): Give GalagoStatus object properties, and use them when creating the object. |
| 11:50.49 | CIA-4 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2340 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/core.c src/person.c): More minor migration to D-BUS 0.3x. |
| 11:54.57 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r379 10libsexy/ (5 files in 2 dirs): i am so awesome |
| 11:55.35 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/tmp/shes-a-super-sexy-canvas.png |
| 11:55.52 | ChipX86 | amazing! |
| 11:56.02 | ChipX86 | the screenshot made micah cough |
| 11:56.59 | purple_cow | well, it's a good song |
| 11:57.26 | purple_cow | o/~ she's got super-human eyes, see-through super-human vision, she's got super-human thighs, sexier than television o/~ |
| 11:58.10 | purple_cow | http://osiris.chipx86.com/svn/osiris-misc/branches/libsexy/canvas/tests/test-canvas.c |
| 11:58.24 | purple_cow | i don't have a way to control the path on that yet through the API, but the architecture is working :D |
| 11:59.52 | purple_cow | and it's all happy and cairo-ful |
| 12:41.57 | scanlime | yawn... |
| 12:42.13 | scanlime | yes, I don't think I'm starting this CIA database conversion tonight |
| 16:51.02 | CIA-4 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/gtkfe/ (ChangeLog frontend/processor.c gnome/autopackage.xml.in): |
| 16:51.02 | CIA-4 | autopackage: Sun Nov 20 15:33:41 2005 Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> |
| 16:51.02 | CIA-4 | autopackage: * gnome/autopackage.xml.in: Add default namespace so update-mime-database |
| 16:51.03 | CIA-4 | autopackage: doesn't barf on it. |
| 17:08.16 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 17:08.29 | darth_mall | ooh... The Craft is on tv |
| 17:11.03 | file | pfault: meep? |
| 17:36.05 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@71-211-173-50.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 17:46.06 | darth_mall | this movie is so full of great music |
| 18:10.44 | lurgy | which one? |
| 18:16.08 | darth_mall | The Craft |
| 18:20.38 | lurgy | yay |
| 18:49.42 | pfault | meep |
| 18:49.52 | kergoth | morning |
| 18:49.58 | file | hail pagefault and kergoth |
| 18:50.21 | pagefault | well |
| 18:50.23 | pagefault | e-mail time |
| 18:50.26 | pagefault | then off to the world of azeroth |
| 19:31.50 | pagefault | http://media.putfile.com/Who-is-Leroy-Jenkins |
| 19:31.51 | pagefault | haha |
| 19:31.51 | pagefault | wtf |
| 19:32.19 | file | hey Chip |
| 19:33.03 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 19:33.14 | ChipX86 | well, that's it. Google's been taken over by an AI |
| 19:33.36 | file | you didn't know about that earlier? 'tsk 'tsk |
| 19:34.18 | ChipX86 | oh I assumed, but their 20-40 foot storage box with a system containing 5000 opteron procssors and 3.5PB of space that can be dropped off at any place and hooked up to the net just confirms |
| 19:34.22 | ChipX86 | er, confirms it |
| 19:34.26 | ChipX86 | it's looking to take over |
| 19:35.13 | pagefault | I am interested to know what the WoW servers run on |
| 19:35.15 | file | next step: brain implants |
| 19:57.13 | darth_mall | hrm... |
| 19:57.42 | darth_mall | why isn't pstricks drawing my pictures |
| 20:19.44 | *** join/#tacobeam dooky (i=jeff@poipu/developer/dooky) |
| 20:44.34 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 21:06.00 | ChipX86 | President Bush tugged at both handles on the double doors before admitting: "I was trying to escape. Obviously, it didn't work." |
| 21:06.55 | ChipX86 | that's our president. Leader of the free world. |
| 21:07.14 | kergoth | ? |
| 21:07.40 | ChipX86 | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4454738.stm |
| 21:08.39 | kergoth | hah |
| 21:09.46 | file | little kids drain the energy out of me |
| 21:13.54 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r380 10libsexy/libsexy/sexy-canvas-item-line.c: saving state twice as often as necessary is cool and hip, but probably pretty expensive |
| 21:26.26 | scanlime | ChipX86: the look on his face there is the best part |
| 21:26.36 | scanlime | erg.. my laptop keyboard's squeak is getting a lot louder |
| 21:27.25 | ChipX86 | yeah isn't it great? |
| 21:30.11 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r381 10libsexy/ (3 files in 2 dirs): transformations |
| 21:30.48 | TD | PYTHON IS UTTER SHIT |
| 21:30.58 | TD | so is fedora, incidentally, but that is secondary |
| 21:31.17 | scanlime | TD: is this just the binary compatibility nonsense? |
| 21:31.58 | TD | well, yes. and the dumb responses i always get from fedora-devel on any such topic |
| 21:32.08 | TD | that mailing list is such a hole. actual red hat employees hardly ever post there |
| 21:32.15 | TD | i am 99% convinced they still use "high signal" internal lists |
| 21:32.39 | TD | eg "So what, there is no promise you can run binaries compiled on other distros anyway" |
| 21:32.55 | TD | so hey why not compile python so it exports a different API than what upstream does. who cares? |
| 21:33.06 | kergoth | eek |
| 21:33.19 | ChipX86 | it exports a different API? |
| 21:33.32 | TD | and the fact that it's slow as hell, and leaks memory by design, and is not thread safe |
| 21:33.36 | TD | yes |
| 21:33.41 | ChipX86 | ... |
| 21:33.55 | TD | they not only change the API incompatibly with every minor revision (2.3, 2.4 etc), but you can configure it with various switches that modify the API |
| 21:34.00 | TD | then they use #defines to cover it up |
| 21:34.18 | TD | all the function names change if you compile it for 4-byte unicode instead of 2-byte, which is what fedora does of course |
| 21:35.58 | kergoth | Sam: Percent sign, ampersand, dollar sign. |
| 21:35.58 | kergoth | Max: And colon, semicolon too! |
| 21:35.59 | kergoth | Psychic: What are you [bleep]ing doing? |
| 21:35.59 | kergoth | Sam: Swearing in longhand, asterisk-mouth. |
| 21:37.00 | pagefault | time to do my lock quest |
| 21:37.04 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:37.18 | kergoth | i just got my shaman one. need to dig up an azerothian diamond, and a pristine black one |
| 21:38.24 | pagefault | who is the lucky lady |
| 21:39.14 | kergoth | pagefault: i discovered earlier than i hadnt trained since level 56 :P |
| 21:39.19 | pagefault | haha |
| 21:39.21 | pagefault | you 60 now? |
| 21:39.23 | kergoth | yeah |
| 21:39.28 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:39.34 | pagefault | yeah getting the final talents is very useful :) |
| 21:39.40 | kergoth | hit it when turning in that quest to the pally at the end of ustrat |
| 21:39.40 | ChipX86 | I should play |
| 21:39.45 | ChipX86 | and also, do laundry |
| 21:39.47 | kergoth | mana tide rank 3 baby |
| 21:39.48 | ChipX86 | and pack |
| 21:39.51 | kergoth | pack? |
| 21:39.53 | kergoth | where ya headin? |
| 21:39.53 | ChipX86 | and burn the DVDs for Jamie |
| 21:39.56 | ChipX86 | Chico |
| 21:39.59 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:39.59 | kergoth | cool |
| 21:41.38 | scanlime | TD: explain this leaking-memory-by-design |
| 21:42.07 | scanlime | TD: is this something silly with how pymalloc is implemented, or are you just annoyed with how easy it is to write a leaky C extension? |
| 21:42.38 | purple_cow | you know what's even better than leaky C extensions? |
| 21:42.51 | purple_cow | C extensions that set up little land mines all over your heap! |
| 21:42.57 | scanlime | yay |
| 21:44.31 | ChipX86 | what's the negative of idle? unidle? non-idle? |
| 21:44.44 | scanlime | active? |
| 21:44.49 | ChipX86 | considered that |
| 21:44.53 | ChipX86 | but there's a problem there |
| 21:45.00 | ChipX86 | you can be away but not idle |
| 21:45.05 | ChipX86 | and then idle may kick in later |
| 21:45.25 | scanlime | oh, not just "idle", this is your crazy IM terminology :P |
| 21:45.29 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 21:46.28 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9451 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Messages.py: When reconstituting a DOM from encoded SAX events on disk, this wasn't setting ownerDocument on Text nodes it created which contained only whitespace. This was breaking Xen's ancient colorText commits on my test server. |
| 21:47.23 | purple_cow | bad xen! |
| 21:49.30 | ChipX86 | yay, my cousin's heading here in a couple hours |
| 21:49.34 | ChipX86 | he should arrive around 11:30 :P |
| 21:49.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:50.27 | ChipX86 | so I've been playing around with the idea of a tag-based buddy list |
| 21:50.45 | ChipX86 | and only showing recently/commonly contacted people by default |
| 21:50.52 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 21:50.54 | purple_cow | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Uncyclopedia_Brown |
| 21:51.00 | ChipX86 | Encyclopedia Brown! |
| 21:51.14 | ChipX86 | I miss those books |
| 21:51.45 | ChipX86 | I would so buy an Uncyclopedia Brown book :) |
| 21:52.02 | ChipX86 | I suppose I should consider laundry |
| 21:57.49 | purple_cow | hrmph |
| 21:57.57 | purple_cow | i have no idea how to approach widget embedding in this canvas :P |
| 21:58.44 | darth_mall | heh... I'd forgotten how much I liked Little Birdy's first EP |
| 21:59.33 | kergoth | little birdy? |
| 22:00.02 | rioter | heh |
| 22:00.10 | rioter | darth_mall yeah it is good work |
| 22:00.29 | darth_mall | wow really? |
| 22:00.31 | darth_mall | that's awesome |
| 22:00.55 | rioter | yeah played at my uni for free |
| 22:01.08 | rioter | and a thing at a beach near me, and also a thing in the city for some event |
| 22:01.50 | rioter | her brother is in another australian band sleepy jackson |
| 22:01.53 | rioter | seems to be a musical family |
| 22:06.50 | rioter | have you guys heard wolfmother? |
| 22:06.59 | JayPee | pwn |
| 22:07.08 | JayPee | ChipX86! |
| 22:07.18 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9452 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Target.py: |
| 22:07.18 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: Ensure we can't have collisions between the names of child stats targets and the |
| 22:07.18 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: names used for internal files, by prefixing internal files with '_' and |
| 22:07.18 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: disallowing stats path segments beginning with an underscore. Also disallow |
| 22:07.18 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: segments beginning with '.', since that would be confusing and is already bad |
| 22:07.19 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: for the web interface. |
| 22:07.21 | JayPee | I loved Encyclopedia Brown too |
| 22:07.29 | JayPee | They also had these "You be the Jury" books |
| 22:07.32 | JayPee | I loved those too |
| 22:08.49 | rioter | darth_mall if you havent you should check them out, great rock group from LA kinda 70's feel to it |
| 22:09.13 | darth_mall | whos' that? worlmother? |
| 22:09.17 | darth_mall | erm... wolfmother? |
| 22:09.24 | rioter | yeah |
| 22:10.02 | rioter | actually, perhaps they arnt from LA |
| 22:10.09 | rioter | triple j has a ausmusic profile on them |
| 22:11.33 | JayPee | So |
| 22:11.39 | JayPee | I bought this Cafe del Mar CD |
| 22:11.43 | darth_mall | uhoh |
| 22:11.47 | darth_mall | nothing good can come from buying cds |
| 22:11.51 | JayPee | and I'm listening to it, wondering to myself, "WTF did I just buy?" |
| 22:11.59 | JayPee | darth_mall: ever been to Amoeba Music? |
| 22:12.06 | darth_mall | is it in California? |
| 22:12.10 | JayPee | yes |
| 22:12.14 | rioter | haha, once i start buying cd's i usually end up buying 20 or so |
| 22:12.37 | JayPee | Ameoba is basically a used CD warehouse. And when I say "warehouse," I *mean* warehouse. |
| 22:12.43 | JayPee | they've got DVDs and stuff too... |
| 22:12.46 | ChipX86 | oohh Amoeba. I *love* that place |
| 22:12.47 | darth_mall | this is a wuv song! |
| 22:12.49 | darth_mall | JayPee: then probably not |
| 22:12.57 | JayPee | anyway, I usually go in there, and can't leave without spending at *least* $80. |
| 22:13.07 | ChipX86 | only been there once, but it's so awesome |
| 22:13.10 | JayPee | Fortunately, I only go in there once every 4 or 5 months |
| 22:13.13 | darth_mall | JayPee: I had a similar problem when my brother first started working at Albums on the Hill |
| 22:13.16 | ChipX86 | just packed full of music and stuff of every kind |
| 22:13.22 | JayPee | ChipX86: we should take a day trip up there |
| 22:13.26 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:13.29 | darth_mall | although it wasn't $80, but that was in part because I get a discount |
| 22:13.31 | JayPee | I've easily spent 3 hours in there |
| 22:13.32 | rioter | do they have less popular stuff there? |
| 22:13.42 | JayPee | rioter: yeah... they've got real esoteric stuff |
| 22:14.07 | rioter | JayPee much metal if you have ever noticed? |
| 22:14.13 | JayPee | their used classical CD space is larger than the Tower Records' pop/rock section |
| 22:14.14 | ChipX86 | rioter: everything |
| 22:14.32 | JayPee | rioter: sorry; that's not my kind of music, so I haven't even found where they put it in that place |
| 22:14.55 | rioter | haha |
| 22:15.34 | nullpuppy | http://www.mininova.org/tor/141989 |
| 22:15.35 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 22:16.17 | kergoth | oooh! |
| 22:16.54 | rioter | oh btw that reminds me |
| 22:18.31 | rioter | actually a few of you were into nightwish were you not? |
| 22:19.45 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:21.27 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9453 10cia/LibCIA/Stats/Target.py: Make StatsTarget lazier |
| 22:24.51 | rioter | you might not have heard, as you might not keep up with metal news, but tarja got kicked out of the band |
| 22:26.03 | scanlime | that seemed pretty likely, given that letter on their site :( |
| 22:26.21 | pagefault | whats with the scarlet crusade |
| 22:26.37 | ChipX86 | pagefault: ? |
| 22:26.43 | pagefault | whats the story behindt hem |
| 22:26.54 | ChipX86 | no clue |
| 22:27.08 | rioter | eh, after seeing them live, i was really disapointed |
| 22:28.07 | rioter | and my friends band supported them on their australian tour, and after the stories i heard from him, im supprised it took this long |
| 22:33.17 | rioter | nullpuppy whats that flyleaf band like? |
| 22:35.23 | nullpuppy | hmm |
| 22:36.30 | nullpuppy | hard rock fronted by a chick? not sure how to describe it |
| 22:36.50 | rioter | who are they similar to? |
| 22:38.27 | purple_cow | ooh, flyleaf torrent |
| 22:38.49 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 22:39.00 | nullpuppy | purple_cow: how would you describe flyleaf? |
| 22:39.04 | purple_cow | awesome |
| 22:39.37 | rioter | eh ill bookmark the torrent |
| 22:39.46 | rioter | just near my data limit this month |
| 22:39.52 | rioter | and got 10 days left in the month |
| 22:39.56 | nullpuppy | aww |
| 22:40.01 | rioter | so will have to wait |
| 22:40.28 | purple_cow | data...limit? |
| 22:40.29 | rioter | actually |
| 22:40.33 | rioter | work can foot the bill |
| 22:41.03 | rioter | purple_cow yeah its what happens when you live in australia |
| 22:41.08 | rioter | get a big fast shiney connection |
| 22:41.17 | rioter | and get slapped with a 25 gig download limit |
| 22:41.39 | purple_cow | ow |
| 22:42.04 | rioter | my friend can maintain a 16mbit connection over adsl 2 |
| 22:42.10 | rioter | he gets a 30 gig download limit a month |
| 22:44.23 | scanlime | is there an upload limit? |
| 22:46.05 | ChipX86 | ok, who here is familiar with coding for X? |
| 22:48.23 | ChipX86 | I'm not entirely sure what it is I need yet I guess |
| 22:49.29 | scanlime | =( |
| 22:52.10 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 22:52.16 | ChipX86 | need to find out how to retrieve the focused window |
| 22:52.44 | ChipX86 | hopefully gdk wraps this |
| 22:57.57 | scanlime | helpful tip of the day: Don't try to read mysql source code |
| 22:58.18 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:58.45 | purple_cow | i remember working on getting mysql's cluster code to be 64-bit clean |
| 22:59.08 | purple_cow | it's actually not as bad as it looks |
| 23:00.29 | scanlime | hmm.. flapjack's making alrightish time on converting these messages |
| 23:00.57 | scanlime | I bet the conversion on flapjack will finish before I can get mysqld set up on wasabi, copy down the database, convert it on wasabi, then copy the results back |
| 23:01.46 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9454 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: bump, fix spacing |
| 23:01.59 | scanlime | and in the mean time, flapjack's system load will hover around 5 :P |
| 23:03.03 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9455 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/dcc-window.c: some old spacing fixes that never got committed |
| 23:03.33 | scanlime | I should set up screen on flapjack to show me I/O tokens next to the system load |
| 23:03.46 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9456 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ChangeLog: tagline |
| 23:07.33 | ChipX86 | wow, I didn't know import let you click and drag to select a window region |
| 23:07.54 | darth_mall | grrr... why can't there be more docs on LaTeX macros |
| 23:10.22 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9457 10xchat-gnome/web/downloads.shtml: new links |
| 23:13.03 | purple_cow | yay for this release having a good name |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-4 | autopackage: 03mike * 10autopackage/main/ (ChangeLog share/apkg-mimetype.xsl): |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-4 | autopackage: Sun Nov 20 23:12:17 2005 Mike Hearn <mike@plan99.net> |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-4 | autopackage: * share/apkg-mimetype.xsl: Fix namespace handling so input document |
| 23:14.01 | CIA-4 | autopackage: can have default namespace to please update-mime-database. |
| 23:15.30 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter 07xchat-gnome-0.7 * r9458 10/: tag |
| 23:23.51 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:23.53 | scanlime | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/404323 |
| 23:24.02 | scanlime | wonder who 'nick' is |
| 23:24.53 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 23:28.50 | purple_cow | scanlime: how stable will flapjack be over the next day or so? |
| 23:29.51 | scanlime | I'm keeping a close eye on it.. so hopefully it wont' go down. It will be pretty heavily loaded today and maybe tomorrow though |
| 23:32.33 | scanlime | should be great doing an x-g release and a big CIA database upgrade at the same time ;) |
| 23:33.29 | TD | ChipX86: can blender really not import 3dsmax files? |
| 23:33.34 | ChipX86 | dunno |
| 23:33.47 | TD | and trying to remember how to use blender at the same time |
| 23:34.01 | TD | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.07 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:34.09 | TD | but i don't really know for usre |
| 23:34.15 | purple_cow | scanlime: maybe i'll wait a day to announce on freshmeat ;) |
| 23:34.43 | purple_cow | TD: http://lg3d.dev.java.net/ ;-) |
| 23:35.02 | TD | har har |
| 23:35.08 | scanlime | purple_cow: :) |
| 23:35.44 | scanlime | well.. I guess it's no great loss that I couldn't optimize the CPU usage of this database converter much more |
| 23:35.49 | scanlime | it's definitely I/O limited |
| 23:35.58 | scanlime | like absolutely everything else on flapjack! |
| 23:38.02 | scanlime | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/diskio/io_status-hour.gif |
| 23:38.14 | scanlime | I've got io tokens in my screen statusbar now, so I can manually ^Z and fg this thing :P |
| 23:39.29 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:41.08 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9459 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ChangeLog: add a section for 0.8 |
| 23:41.11 | JayPee | scanlime: you know what I've decided? |
| 23:41.19 | CIA-4 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9460 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/main-window.c: use the new xtext search API |
| 23:41.40 | scanlime | JayPee: do I? |
| 23:41.50 | ChipX86 | I don't |
| 23:41.53 | JayPee | I've decided you are an I/O whore. |
| 23:42.01 | JayPee | no matter how much I/O someone gives you; you want more. |
| 23:42.15 | JayPee | (this is likely because all I ever hear you complaining about is how much I/O you use. ;-) |
| 23:42.16 | scanlime | that's probably true.. but nobody ever gives me much I/O :P |
| 23:42.31 | purple_cow | as computers get faster, everything will become I/O bound ;) |
| 23:43.34 | JayPee | purple_cow: not if we use VMs. |
| 23:43.42 | JayPee | ONCE AGAIN, VMs SAVE THE DAY! |
| 23:44.30 | purple_cow | god freaking damnit |
| 23:44.47 | purple_cow | i hate it when i ask a user for a backtrace and i get something that's mostly ??s |
| 23:44.52 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:45.15 | JayPee | purple_cow: what... you don't remember writing void ??(int foo, char* bar)? |
| 23:45.29 | JayPee | all my programs have at least a couple of those |
| 23:45.41 | scanlime | all my programs have at least a dozen global variables named "??" too |
| 23:47.11 | purple_cow | ok, enough irc client hacking. back to something with fewer people to get grumpy at |
| 23:49.15 | CIA-4 | osiris-misc: 03jupiter 07canvas * r382 10libsexy/libsexy/ (sexy-canvas-item.c sexy-canvas-item.h): expose different scales in different dimensions, why not |
