| 00:00.06 | scanlime | hardwire: try something like "(value * brightness) >> 16" |
| 00:00.14 | scanlime | hardwire: in 16.16 fixed point, a brightness of 0x10000 would be "1" |
| 00:00.18 | hardwire | scanlime: its walking the pattern correctly now.. wrapping arouund perfectly .. I am not doing brightness at the moment.. the modulator isn't working |
| 00:00.20 | hardwire | unfortunatly. |
| 00:00.24 | scanlime | hardwire: so 0x10000 would use the same brigthness defined in the pattern |
| 00:00.34 | scanlime | hmm |
| 00:00.48 | hardwire | err |
| 00:00.56 | hardwire | I should initialize the values probably. |
| 00:01.40 | hardwire | http://pastebin.ca/27731 |
| 00:02.06 | hardwire | the led array shoould initialize all data to null or 0 right? |
| 00:02.13 | hardwire | since I am telling it to allocate 32 units |
| 00:02.15 | slimspace | zak: she doesn't really wear t-shirts |
| 00:03.26 | zak | slimspace: but she asked me for a I *HEART* MY GEEEK SHIRT |
| 00:03.35 | zak | stipud sticky keys |
| 00:03.52 | slimspace | true...if I had to venture a guess, I'd say medium or large |
| 00:03.54 | zak | slimspace: how can I appease if I don't know the right size to get ^_^ |
| 00:04.06 | slimspace | I'll ask her next time I talk to her |
| 00:04.09 | ChipX86 | zak: I used to love that shirt |
| 00:04.58 | zak | ChipX86: :( |
| 00:05.37 | zak | i don' |
| 00:05.39 | nullpuppy|code | it's a zak |
| 00:05.40 | nullpuppy|code | ! |
| 00:05.51 | zak | t want it for me, but i would be very amused to get it for some people I know |
| 00:05.53 | ChipX86 | heh it's okay, the incident with that shirt was a very long time ago |
| 00:06.13 | zak | ChipX86: did you and Jamie work things out? |
| 00:06.21 | ChipX86 | somewhat. neither of us want to break up |
| 00:06.26 | ChipX86 | so we'll just play things by ear |
| 00:06.39 | zak | that is usually a good way to do it :) |
| 00:07.34 | purple_cow | zak: i'd wear that shirt |
| 00:07.55 | nullpuppy|code | zak: http://www.nulldomain.com/book/fingerpaintingwithdeath :) |
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| 00:10.05 | zak | wooohoo |
| 00:10.09 | zak | I adore that first line ^_^ |
| 00:10.27 | file[ontrain] | hihi |
| 00:10.46 | purple_cow | nullpuppy|code: missing a few words in places ;) |
| 00:11.09 | nullpuppy|code | zak: :) |
| 00:11.14 | nullpuppy|code | purple_cow: yeah, probably :) |
| 00:11.23 | nullpuppy|code | it'll remain unedited until december :) |
| 00:11.47 | file[ontrain] | go nullpuppy go! |
| 00:12.02 | zak | purple_cow: that's how nanowrimo works |
| 00:12.08 | zak | type what you can, as fast as you can |
| 00:12.11 | zak | 10k or bust! |
| 00:12.24 | file[ontrain] | hi zak |
| 00:12.26 | nullpuppy | s/10/50/ |
| 00:12.37 | purple_cow | zak: yeah, i know |
| 00:13.24 | zak | hi' |
| 00:13.58 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 00:14.08 | pagefault | it's a file |
| 00:14.19 | purple_cow | i could write about a kid who travels around, wasting his life, complaining how everyone is a phony |
| 00:15.18 | file[ontrain] | yeah |
| 00:15.21 | nullpuppy | like that guy from family guy? |
| 00:15.47 | hardwire | if you put one on a screw head.. your flathead screwdriver can't hack it |
| 00:15.53 | zak | purple_cow: if we wanted an auto-biography we would go to the library ^_^ |
| 00:15.54 | zak | jk |
| 00:16.33 | scanlime | hardwire: go to ebay, get a set of all those screwdrivers The Man doesn't want you to have |
| 00:16.43 | scanlime | open video game systems, bathroom stalls, and everything in between |
| 00:17.08 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:17.10 | nullpuppy | lol |
| 00:17.57 | hardwire | scanlime: I hacked it with a bigger driver.. mwa ha ha |
| 00:18.00 | hardwire | but the man does suck |
| 00:18.18 | hardwire | ok this ionizing air filter is made very strangly |
| 00:18.23 | zak | hunger |
| 00:18.26 | scanlime | or you could *really* stick it to the man by cutting a slot for a flathead screwdriver, using a dremel |
| 00:18.27 | zak | me want food |
| 00:18.39 | hardwire | scanlime: thats not covert |
| 00:18.42 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:18.45 | scanlime | /msg zak ~/fridge/taco |
| 00:18.48 | zak | scanlime: can i cut a slot for a flathead screwdriver into you using a drimel? |
| 00:18.56 | purple_cow | was noone else here forced to read catcher in the rye in high school? |
| 00:18.56 | zak | excellent storage? |
| 00:18.57 | scanlime | zak: I already have one |
| 00:18.59 | zak | easy access |
| 00:19.03 | zak | fantastic |
| 00:19.09 | zak | purple_cow: I did |
| 00:19.12 | ChipX86 | yay, my first scratchbox patch |
| 00:19.18 | zak | I was just liked my answer better |
| 00:19.26 | nullpuppy | i read it |
| 00:19.42 | nullpuppy | i thought it was a decent book |
| 00:19.43 | scanlime | multi-pass! |
| 00:19.53 | zak | big bada boooom! |
| 00:19.55 | zak | booom! |
| 00:19.57 | hardwire | the chamber that collects the dust inside this device has a uv lamp |
| 00:20.01 | hardwire | its bleached the plastic |
| 00:20.09 | hardwire | so uniform.. |
| 00:20.14 | scanlime | zak: =D |
| 00:21.22 | zak | 1,000 chips delicious! |
| 00:21.38 | ChipX86 | yes, I am |
| 00:21.50 | zak | hehe |
| 00:22.14 | scanlime | I'm only 800 chips delicious :( |
| 00:22.32 | ChipX86 | ok, time to do awesome things |
| 00:22.35 | ChipX86 | now that gcc works |
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| 00:24.43 | hardwire | this sucks |
| 00:25.06 | purple_cow | blah |
| 00:25.30 | purple_cow | xchat's message hilight & action hilight events don't give the channel inside any of the text event arrays |
| 00:25.38 | purple_cow | so i have to listen to the raw IRC messages in this plugin :P |
| 00:25.48 | hardwire | scanline: http://pastebin.ca/27736 |
| 00:26.05 | hardwire | I won't be expecting much more know how out of you today |
| 00:26.11 | hardwire | but that just seemed funk diddly |
| 00:27.47 | hardwire | i fed it 0x8000 only |
| 00:28.03 | hardwire | its giving me a pattern 50% pattern over 4 steps |
| 00:28.19 | scanlime | hold on |
| 00:28.25 | hardwire | nooo problem |
| 00:30.38 | scanlime | noooooo |
| 00:30.41 | scanlime | no poofing for zak |
| 00:30.53 | laodamas | Grr. 150 word "essays" are hard |
| 00:30.55 | laodamas | ^^DU Graduate School Application |
| 00:31.21 | ChipX86 | guess I'm going back to contributing to gtetrinet for a bit |
| 00:31.51 | scanlime | hardwire: no more unsigned goop, and swap out (integrator2 & 0x8000) for (integrator2 >= 0x8000). It needs to account for negative integrator values. |
| 00:32.26 | scanlime | you could also do (integrator2 & 0x8000) && !(integrator2 & -1), but >= is almost certainly faster |
| 00:34.39 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/worldDrawing.cpp: start using real drawing data for boxes |
| 00:40.33 | hardwire | scanlime: ooooooooooooooooooooh |
| 00:40.36 | hardwire | bingo |
| 00:40.39 | Sophie197 | mm food |
| 00:45.34 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9208 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notify-osd/ (Makefile.am notify-osd.c): more progress |
| 00:47.26 | scanlime | oof |
| 00:48.23 | hardwire | hardwire: the boing boing effect http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/Video_110505_001.asf |
| 00:48.27 | hardwire | it does the gradual fade up. |
| 00:48.33 | hardwire | then drops to 0 |
| 00:48.35 | hardwire | and repeates |
| 00:48.51 | hardwire | except the second pass and beyond the modulator is moofed |
| 00:49.52 | scanlime | 403 |
| 00:49.58 | hardwire | sec |
| 00:50.23 | hardwire | ok |
| 00:52.24 | scanlime | hah |
| 00:52.46 | scanlime | might try doing a simple ramp up and down, printing out that debug info at each step |
| 00:52.56 | ChipX86 | I should organize the thing tonight for whoever's going |
| 00:53.04 | hardwire | I have it on a full sin pattern atm |
| 00:53.10 | hardwire | it looks better |
| 00:53.19 | scanlime | ChipX86: so.. happy donuts I assume? what time? |
| 00:53.20 | hardwire | but right as it loops there is this quick flicker |
| 00:53.27 | ChipX86 | scanlime: hmm, 9? |
| 00:53.30 | ChipX86 | later? |
| 00:53.32 | ChipX86 | earlier? |
| 00:53.32 | hardwire | I don't think it likes being at 0 |
| 00:53.42 | scanlime | zero should be fine |
| 00:53.48 | hardwire | I know it shoould |
| 00:53.59 | hardwire | but when I feed it zeros is when issues happen |
| 00:54.26 | hardwire | 1000hz is soo much nicer |
| 00:54.55 | hardwire | 250 is like tripping the light fantastic |
| 00:55.33 | scanlime | you could be running into overflow issues... I'd suggest looking at some printk()s |
| 00:55.49 | hardwire | I have all the vars going to printk each interfval |
| 00:55.51 | hardwire | interval |
| 00:55.55 | scanlime | nod |
| 00:55.56 | hardwire | I am looking at it |
| 00:56.07 | scanlime | mmm, bagel |
| 00:56.25 | hardwire | I watched Collateral last night |
| 00:56.29 | hardwire | however thats spelled. |
| 00:56.31 | hardwire | good flick |
| 00:56.34 | ChipX86 | scanlime: 9 sound alright? |
| 00:56.43 | scanlime | sure |
| 00:56.50 | ChipX86 | I'm flexible |
| 00:57.02 | scanlime | who else is coming? |
| 00:57.07 | scanlime | if anyone? |
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| 00:57.20 | ChipX86 | Mark West, maybe Philip, probably not Paul Reed but maybe |
| 00:57.34 | ChipX86 | possibly Walter |
| 00:57.45 | scanlime | hope there's enough room :) |
| 00:57.49 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:58.51 | hardwire | xterm + tail -s 0 -f /var/log/syslog |
| 00:58.56 | hardwire | is pretty damn zippy |
| 01:01.22 | hardwire | scanlime: yeh.. I see.. climbing up the integrators never drop below 0. |
| 01:01.32 | hardwire | once I go to 0.. they drop hard. |
| 01:01.32 | scanlime | nod |
| 01:01.58 | hardwire | int1 goes to -30k immedietly and int2 matches the trend after 5 steps |
| 01:02.11 | hardwire | except int2 is exponentially going much faster down hill :( |
| 01:02.17 | scanlime | yeah |
| 01:02.27 | hardwire | it wrapped |
| 01:02.28 | hardwire | mother |
| 01:02.29 | hardwire | fucker |
| 01:02.31 | scanlime | you shouldn't see them get much lower than -64k or so |
| 01:02.38 | scanlime | heh |
| 01:02.39 | scrumptious | damn.. my screen is goneth |
| 01:03.04 | hardwire | oh.. the lowest int2 goes is -440k |
| 01:03.13 | hardwire | err.. -4443k |
| 01:03.27 | hardwire | HMMHESAYS |
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| 01:07.27 | ChipX86 | neat, gimp just added binreloc support |
| 01:07.34 | hardwire | http://www.beis.de/Elektronik/DeltaSigma/DeltaSigma.html |
| 01:07.35 | hardwire | neat |
| 01:08.24 | hardwire | so delta-sigma is a poor mands ADC |
| 01:08.24 | scanlime | hardwire: neat, I think that's the same site I read while I was working on them for space grant stuff |
| 01:09.06 | scanlime | well, not necessarily a poor-man's A/D or D/A.. it's simple, but you can very accurate results |
| 01:09.08 | purple_cow | ChipX86: neato |
| 01:09.48 | scanlime | hardwire: delta-sigma is popular for audio, where sampling rates are relatively low but high accuracy is important |
| 01:09.51 | hardwire | scanlime: you can achieve a higher percieved band with audio dithering right? |
| 01:09.59 | hardwire | 8000hz sounds more like 10000hz |
| 01:10.08 | hardwire | or am I smokey the crackey. |
| 01:10.34 | scanlime | if I understand right, audio dithering is just a software method of getting higher percieved resolution without changing the hardware D/A resolution |
| 01:10.42 | scanlime | it's similar to how delta-sigma works |
| 01:10.49 | hardwire | I would assume sox's resample uses something similar |
| 01:11.09 | scanlime | resampling is a whole pile of crazy problems |
| 01:11.22 | scanlime | but dithering is mostly to improve resolution in the voltage of your output |
| 01:11.30 | hardwire | I saw applications for that |
| 01:11.30 | scanlime | resampling is mostly dealing with temporal aliasing |
| 01:12.03 | scanlime | so.. to make a graphics analogy, audio dithering is a lot like video dithering, and audio resampling is like scaling video |
| 01:12.15 | scanlime | they're techniques that often get combined, but really do different things |
| 01:12.19 | hardwire | this is based off of figure 5 I take it |
| 01:13.00 | scanlime | yeah, that's exactly what you're doing |
| 01:13.04 | hardwire | ok |
| 01:13.19 | hardwire | in figure 4.. 3rd pattern down.. the integrator |
| 01:13.24 | hardwire | would make a whicked light pattern |
| 01:13.28 | hardwire | whicked :) |
| 01:13.33 | scanlime | the 'comparator' in your case is the (x >= 0x8000) part, and the 'latch' is where you store 'output' value to use on the next iteration |
| 01:13.52 | hardwire | yeh I assumed something to that sort |
| 01:14.44 | hardwire | you make this into an 8 bit dav by changing the comprarator |
| 01:14.50 | hardwire | dav/dac |
| 01:15.11 | numist | no clue on this guy |
| 01:15.29 | scanlime | yeah |
| 01:15.38 | numist | we told him 'yes', and he heard 'no |
| 01:15.42 | scanlime | hardwire: no, delta-sigma always operates on bitstreams |
| 01:15.51 | scanlime | hardwire: they're always 1-bit, really |
| 01:16.05 | hardwire | ok |
| 01:16.37 | scanlime | hardwire: in a data acquisition application, you'd use a hardware delta-sigma modulator to take an analog signal and convert to a bitstream.. then you'd use software to filter that bistream into a slower but higher resolution stream of binary words |
| 01:17.00 | hardwire | an analog sensor stream |
| 01:17.00 | scanlime | that decimation and filtering process is what determines your tradeoff between sampling rate and resolution |
| 01:17.12 | hardwire | not really anything like a UHF video stream |
| 01:17.17 | hardwire | or am I crazy? |
| 01:17.33 | scanlime | what stream? |
| 01:17.37 | hardwire | nm |
| 01:17.45 | hardwire | so the clock has to match the sample rate you want to encode at |
| 01:17.52 | scanlime | well.. |
| 01:18.00 | scanlime | the clock matches the rate of your 1-bit stream |
| 01:18.04 | hardwire | or if you are wanting 16 bit samples.. 16 * the 1 bit rate |
| 01:18.20 | hardwire | I make 0 sense today |
| 01:18.23 | scanlime | I don't think it's 16x for a 16-bit stream, but it's something like that |
| 01:18.38 | hardwire | if I wanna capture 44khz.. I have to go quite a bit faster |
| 01:18.42 | scanlime | right |
| 01:18.57 | numist | and there comes ChipX86 with the precise answer, complete with cluebat |
| 01:18.59 | scanlime | it is possible to store the raw 1-bit delta-sigma modulator stream however |
| 01:19.07 | ChipX86 | numist: :) |
| 01:19.17 | ChipX86 | glad I could help |
| 01:19.19 | laodamas | Has anyone here played with turbo coded bit streams? |
| 01:19.33 | hardwire | that sounds fun too |
| 01:19.49 | hardwire | anything turbo |
| 01:19.58 | laodamas | hardwire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_code |
| 01:20.24 | ChipX86 | man, what did I get myself into.. |
| 01:20.35 | numist | heh |
| 01:20.37 | scanlime | hmm, cool |
| 01:20.40 | numist | is he msging you now? |
| 01:20.42 | ChipX86 | no |
| 01:20.55 | ChipX86 | trying to remove all libgnome and libgnomeui code from gtetrinet |
| 01:21.18 | hardwire | just remove the g |
| 01:21.21 | hardwire | and start from there |
| 01:21.22 | numist | :D |
| 01:21.26 | purple_cow | ChipX86: haha |
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| 01:21.41 | ChipX86 | doing the conversion to GtkUIManager right now :P |
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| 01:26.32 | ChipX86 | ack |
| 01:26.46 | ChipX86 | I sure hope there's a glib equivalent to this... |
| 01:27.04 | dooky | ChipX86: to what? glib has so much crap in it |
| 01:27.11 | scanlime | I should start a new country, so I can make billions of dollars selling its radio spectrum |
| 01:27.12 | ChipX86 | GnomeConfig API |
| 01:27.17 | dooky | O |
| 01:27.27 | dooky | I like it for it's hash tables and string func |
| 01:27.28 | dooky | s |
| 01:27.52 | ChipX86 | that's the easy common stuff :) |
| 01:28.04 | ChipX86 | I don't think it has this though |
| 01:28.05 | dooky | indeed |
| 01:28.17 | dooky | just browse their API ref |
| 01:28.21 | dooky | it's really well documented |
| 01:28.25 | scanlime | I like glib for g_strdup_printf() |
| 01:28.53 | ChipX86 | it does have it. What do you know. |
| 01:30.10 | ChipX86 | no, I thought this was for config file loading |
| 01:30.14 | ChipX86 | gah. It doesn't use gconf for this?! |
| 01:31.05 | ChipX86 | oh it does. Wow, that's a weird file format for specifying files... |
| 01:31.19 | ChipX86 | =/usr/share/blahblah/theme.cfg=/ |
| 01:32.13 | lurgy | hehe |
| 01:32.39 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 01:33.10 | purple_cow | ChipX86: GKeyFile should work for replacing GnomeConfig |
| 01:33.15 | ChipX86 | yeah, using it now |
| 01:33.15 | purple_cow | it's kind of a pain though |
| 01:33.31 | ChipX86 | fortunately there isn't much code to replcae here |
| 01:33.56 | purple_cow | not as high level as GnomeConfig, so you have to do things like find a filename and write out the data yourself, rather than just calling gnome_config_sync() |
| 01:34.33 | hardwire | eww |
| 01:34.41 | hardwire | this fan in this air purifier thing is totally.. eww |
| 01:34.46 | ChipX86 | I assume gnome_config_get_string("Foo=Bar") means that Bar is the default value? |
| 01:34.53 | hardwire | and it needs to be oiled again |
| 01:43.19 | ChipX86 | now that's a new one to me |
| 01:43.23 | ChipX86 | "warning: missing sentinel in function call" |
| 01:43.25 | ChipX86 | what's a sentinel? |
| 01:43.42 | hardwire | maybe you shoould fire up your Rouge and Storm functions |
| 01:44.00 | ChipX86 | ah, I was missing a NULL at the end. Must be some gcc thing. Shame the error sucks |
| 01:45.42 | purple_cow | oh, sweet jesus |
| 01:45.54 | purple_cow | i just realized that the lyrics in this song are "look me, look me in the eye" |
| 01:45.58 | purple_cow | not "love me, love me in the eye" |
| 01:46.01 | ChipX86 | ahah |
| 01:46.27 | hardwire | shoould I be spinlocking any of this gpio usage? |
| 01:46.29 | purple_cow | i don't know what it means to be loved in the eye, but it sounds painful |
| 01:46.38 | hardwire | nm.. its protected in the main module |
| 01:52.05 | hardwire | say a value goes above 0xffff |
| 01:52.08 | hardwire | how do I clip it |
| 01:54.54 | scanlime | do you really need to clip it? |
| 01:55.16 | ChipX86 | nice, they use a GnomeEntry but never use a single feature from it |
| 01:55.34 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 01:56.26 | hardwire | scanlime: if I feed a non clipped value to the modulator |
| 01:56.35 | hardwire | it will throw my shit aaaall over |
| 01:56.46 | ChipX86 | oh, nm, they do. Damn. |
| 01:56.48 | purple_cow | ChipX86: how do i fetch the items inside a dbus array? |
| 01:57.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: you recurse into the array and you'll get another iter. Then you treat it like a normal iter |
| 01:57.22 | scanlime | hardwire: well.. I don't think it will do anything all that bad, but I guess it could cause integrator overflows if you do that for prolonged periods of time |
| 01:57.27 | ChipX86 | I recommend looking at sample code somewhere for dbus_message_iter_recurse |
| 01:57.31 | ChipX86 | it's odd at first |
| 01:57.41 | scanlime | hardwire: you can use MAX and MIN to clip it pretty trivially, but I'd recommend just getting rid of your overflowed values by fixing your brightness code ;) |
| 01:58.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.47 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.48 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.48 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.50 | hardwire | it just needs to be that simple |
| 01:59.04 | scanlime | ChipX86: yes, that's the ticket.. we need customers clamoring for an OS X port ;) |
| 01:59.06 | ChipX86 | ok, so there's no good way to support this |
| 01:59.08 | ChipX86 | scanlime: :) |
| 01:59.20 | scanlime | hardwire: that's gross |
| 01:59.24 | hardwire | scanlime: hahah |
| 01:59.31 | scanlime | hardwire: you really should be multiplying brightness, not adding it :P |
| 02:00.08 | scanlime | hardwire: and "<< 7"? |
| 02:00.09 | scanlime | why 7? |
| 02:00.39 | scanlime | so.. think about what happens for different 'intensity' values |
| 02:00.46 | scanlime | at 0, you get your pattern displayed without any corruption |
| 02:01.06 | scanlime | at 255, your LED is half-bright when the pattern is zero, and full-bright when the pattern is at 50% or more |
| 02:01.13 | hardwire | scanlime: it happens too fast if I multiply |
| 02:01.14 | scanlime | chopping off the top half of your pattern waveform |
| 02:01.22 | scanlime | this has nothing to do with speed! |
| 02:01.30 | scanlime | I'm talking about the brightness value |
| 02:01.32 | hardwire | :) |
| 02:01.42 | hardwire | I am too.. the brightness sneaks up too fast as I get nearer 128 |
| 02:01.58 | hardwire | the top quarter of the values becomes nothing but full on |
| 02:02.03 | scanlime | guh |
| 02:02.09 | scanlime | just try multiplying it |
| 02:02.20 | hardwire | ok |
| 02:02.27 | hardwire | and clipping it? |
| 02:02.33 | scanlime | x = (pattern[led[i].position] * led[i].intensity) >> 16; |
| 02:02.39 | scanlime | shouldn't need to clip |
| 02:02.45 | scanlime | unless your input values are out of range |
| 02:03.22 | hardwire | the pattern[led[i].position] can be anywhere from 0-65535 |
| 02:03.27 | hardwire | intensity is 0-255 |
| 02:03.39 | scanlime | ok, so swap that >>16 for >>8 |
| 02:03.56 | scanlime | an intensity of 256 will be your full-scale |
| 02:04.10 | scanlime | have you used fixed-point math before? |
| 02:04.13 | hardwire | eww |
| 02:04.16 | hardwire | hmm |
| 02:04.36 | hardwire | scanlime: back in the day.. but I of course forgot everything.. including to learn more of it. |
| 02:04.57 | scanlime | well, there's a really simple way to think of it |
| 02:05.00 | hardwire | scanlime: I see what you did. |
| 02:05.05 | scanlime | ok |
| 02:05.18 | hardwire | you would go "oh".. if you could see the result. |
| 02:05.28 | scanlime | mebbe |
| 02:05.43 | hardwire | it took the perfect sine wave at 0 intensity.. and made it a few flickers |
| 02:06.03 | hardwire | this dimmed.. not brightened. |
| 02:06.17 | scanlime | 0 intensity should give you nothing but 0 into the modulator |
| 02:06.33 | hardwire | well.. its 1 intensity |
| 02:07.43 | hardwire | its worth noting that the position is also changes via the intensity(brightness) |
| 02:08.33 | scanlime | sigh |
| 02:08.43 | hardwire | give up on me |
| 02:08.49 | hardwire | I won't blame you at all tonight. |
| 02:08.58 | scanlime | well, it's just annoying that everything in your application seems to depend on everything else :) |
| 02:09.09 | hardwire | I wish I knew a way to better explain it |
| 02:09.12 | scanlime | you really should try to separate (in your mind at least, if not in the code) the modulator, the sine wave generator, and the brightness adjustment |
| 02:09.41 | hardwire | they are quite seperate |
| 02:09.45 | hardwire | but arguing that is moot |
| 02:09.58 | hardwire | the sine wave is a pattern |
| 02:10.02 | hardwire | the modulator feeds on it |
| 02:10.17 | hardwire | the brightness just happens to coincide with the stepping through the pattern |
| 02:10.56 | hardwire | from a non fixed point just looking at it point of view.. |
| 02:11.45 | hardwire | concider I just want to change the brightness.. not the speed |
| 02:11.48 | hardwire | everything goes the same speed |
| 02:12.41 | hardwire | if I change the brightness so 0 is regular and adds 0 to the patterns data.. and 255 adds 32768 |
| 02:12.55 | scanlime | I still don't know why you want to add to the pattern value |
| 02:12.56 | hardwire | that puts it just above the compare for the modulators output |
| 02:13.25 | scanlime | that comparison isn't your full-scale, it's the equivalent of 0.5 |
| 02:13.31 | scanlime | it's the threshold between on and off |
| 02:13.32 | hardwire | yes |
| 02:13.42 | hardwire | 32768 is 0.5 |
| 02:13.54 | hardwire | well.. plus or minus one |
| 02:13.54 | scanlime | k |
| 02:14.27 | hardwire | that means that as I grow up in brightness.. even at 254.. at some point the value will still drop below the halfway |
| 02:14.37 | hardwire | and the modulator will still throw a 0 my way |
| 02:14.56 | scanlime | the modulator won't just stop outputting zeros after you pass 32768 |
| 02:15.04 | hardwire | it does however |
| 02:15.08 | scanlime | it shouldn't |
| 02:15.14 | hardwire | one sec |
| 02:15.23 | scanlime | the only time you should be getting nothing but ones, is when you're inputting 0xFFFF |
| 02:16.44 | scanlime | if you input, say 0x8000... the modulator might throw out a 1 first |
| 02:16.57 | scanlime | but then it will see that it just outputted the equivalent of 0xFFFF, causing an error it needs to correct |
| 02:16.59 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/ds1.txt |
| 02:17.14 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/ds2.txt |
| 02:17.21 | hardwire | number one is python using the DS you gave me |
| 02:17.33 | hardwire | number two is the same.. except reinitializing the DS every loop |
| 02:17.34 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 02:17.45 | ChipX86 | compiles but doesn't run without locking up due to some wierdness |
| 02:18.50 | purple_cow | yay weirdness |
| 02:19.50 | scanlime | hardwire: what's changing on each line, just the 'brightness' you're adding, and the sine wave period? |
| 02:20.22 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/ds3.txt |
| 02:20.26 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9209 10xchat-gnome/plugins/net-monitor/net-monitor.c: network manager device state hotness |
| 02:20.27 | hardwire | this one does not add brightness |
| 02:20.41 | hardwire | whats changing is.. the first line is stepping increment 1 |
| 02:20.43 | hardwire | all the way to 255 |
| 02:20.55 | hardwire | of the array at the top of the txt file |
| 02:21.12 | scanlime | ok |
| 02:21.18 | hardwire | oops |
| 02:21.20 | scanlime | ds3 looks kinda right... |
| 02:21.21 | hardwire | let me make ds4 |
| 02:21.22 | hardwire | sine wave |
| 02:21.52 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/ds4.txt |
| 02:22.02 | hardwire | the falloff is weird |
| 02:22.38 | scanlime | well, the DS modulator adds latency |
| 02:22.51 | hardwire | if you have ds4 in your browser.. and a scroll bar.. its fun to scroll it up and down real fast with the music.. like a cool VU meter. |
| 02:22.58 | scanlime | hehe |
| 02:23.02 | scanlime | I'd need a faster machine for that ;) |
| 02:24.06 | scanlime | well, it's not too slow at the vertical scrolling... |
| 02:25.00 | purple_cow | turn the font size way down :) |
| 02:25.12 | purple_cow | on lcds, you get cool color aliasing based on 0 and 1 |
| 02:25.14 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/ledfunk.py |
| 02:25.19 | hardwire | thats the ugiest code in the world |
| 02:25.23 | hardwire | but if you run it you will see whats up |
| 02:25.45 | hardwire | I doubt even you could decypher what I was thinking on each line of this script |
| 02:25.47 | scanlime | purple_cow: ooh yeah ;) |
| 02:26.07 | hardwire | it will blink the progressbar to indicate on/off |
| 02:26.36 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.36 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.36 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.36 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.39 | scanlime | very verbose of you ;) |
| 02:26.47 | hardwire | cut and or paste |
| 02:27.47 | scanlime | heh, the screen refresh isn't really keeping up with the modulator output on my machine |
| 02:27.57 | hardwire | same here |
| 02:28.10 | hardwire | change the timeout to 15 instead of 5 |
| 02:28.11 | hardwire | heh |
| 02:28.34 | scanlime | I have to say, a unique use for progress bars |
| 02:29.02 | hardwire | I like to show progress. |
| 02:29.11 | scanlime | :) |
| 02:29.20 | hardwire | oh pickle! |
| 02:29.29 | scanlime | I like pickles |
| 02:29.31 | hardwire | I blew away all my sunlight working on lights. |
| 02:29.38 | hardwire | I forgot its midnight at 5pm here |
| 02:29.43 | scanlime | hah |
| 02:29.43 | hardwire | poor dog |
| 02:30.04 | hardwire | I can't take him out when its this low on light because of the moose |
| 02:30.11 | hardwire | its mating season and they will shoot to kill |
| 02:30.27 | purple_cow | interesting use of metaphor |
| 02:32.02 | scanlime | we have these weird little micro-moths here |
| 02:32.49 | hardwire | http://rickbryan.com/rb/images/cat-moose.jpg |
| 02:32.59 | hardwire | poor cat must be very confused. |
| 02:33.36 | hardwire | moose humor up here is about what everythign boils down too |
| 02:33.45 | hardwire | like.. why do moose have such big nostrils? |
| 02:33.52 | hardwire | because they have such big hooves/ |
| 02:35.20 | hardwire | hey ChipX86 and scanlime.. thanks for goofing around on stuff with me today. |
| 02:35.28 | purple_cow | hardwire: that's terrible |
| 02:35.52 | hardwire | purple_cow: heh. |
| 02:35.59 | hardwire | http://bogomip.com/~hardwire/puppy_yum.jpg |
| 02:36.02 | hardwire | well I know whats for dinner now. |
| 02:36.51 | hardwire | I think thats just going to be my new GDM logo |
| 02:37.49 | hardwire | g/f needs picked up |
| 02:40.22 | scanlime | heh |
| 02:40.27 | scanlime | that's awful :) |
| 02:51.40 | ChipX86 | ok, encouraging |
| 02:51.55 | ChipX86 | I donwloaded lbreakout2 into the environment. configure, make, make install, run. Works. |
| 02:52.03 | ChipX86 | time to package for the device and hope it does just as well |
| 02:52.55 | scanlime | I need to see this 770 tonight :) |
| 02:53.23 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 02:54.42 | lurgy | ok purple_cow |
| 02:54.49 | lurgy | kurosawa tonight? |
| 02:55.00 | purple_cow | gimme half an hour? |
| 02:55.14 | purple_cow | hmm, actually |
| 02:55.23 | purple_cow | howsabout half an hour, then grocery shopping, then kurosawa |
| 02:56.21 | lurgy | hmm |
| 02:56.22 | lurgy | sure |
| 02:56.24 | lurgy | :) |
| 02:57.48 | purple_cow | hawtdawgs? |
| 02:58.14 | purple_cow | err, maybe that's a little too hip |
| 03:00.19 | ChipX86 | the local news is going to do a segment on whether or not Bigfoot is in the area |
| 03:01.35 | scanlime | let me know how it turns out |
| 03:01.40 | ChipX86 | not going to watch it |
| 03:01.41 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:01.43 | ChipX86 | I just find that silly |
| 03:01.43 | lurgy | purple_cow |
| 03:01.48 | lurgy | always too hip |
| 03:01.58 | rioter | ChipX86 but what if bigfoot is in your area |
| 03:02.08 | rioter | and you dont know, and you go out to get a coffee from your local starbucks and get eaten? |
| 03:02.12 | purple_cow | ChipX86: how can you *not* watch a news segment like that? |
| 03:02.12 | ChipX86 | if he is, he'll probably be employed at Google soon |
| 03:02.45 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:03.56 | lurgy | sounds like our fox affiliate's news |
| 03:04.26 | lurgy | "a fire erupts in Golden... see our video coverage on the ground AND in the air!" |
| 03:04.57 | lurgy | and suddenly you know that at least 15 minutes of their hour-long news program will be devoted to pictures of a burning building |
| 03:05.31 | lurgy | ...interspersed with interviews with firefighters |
| 03:25.39 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9210 10xchat-gnome/plugins/net-monitor/net-monitor.c: when the network goes down, build a list of connected servers & channels, which we'll use to reconnect once the network comes back up |
| 03:26.20 | purple_cow | enough of that |
| 03:26.45 | lurgy | hehe |
| 03:26.46 | lurgy | k |
| 03:27.02 | lurgy | er |
| 03:27.04 | lurgy | strike that |
| 03:27.05 | lurgy | reverse it |
| 03:27.07 | lurgy | hotdawgs |
| 03:27.20 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:30.15 | lurgy | ok |
| 03:31.40 | ChipX86 | a couple of the Stargate SG-1 and Farscape people are going to be in San Jose in a couple weeks |
| 03:43.17 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 03:43.47 | ChipX86 | when I plug the power supply with the european-to-american adapter in, and charge, it works and it charges and all, but the power supply makes a "zz.. zz.. zz.. zz" noise |
| 03:51.42 | rioter | http://lokker.blogspot.com/2005/11/bye-gnome-and-novell-and-all-other.html |
| 03:51.44 | rioter | heh interesting |
| 04:19.28 | purple_cow | ``Linux is gonna be a GNOME world, none would like to use a linux, because it'll always crash, and as we know users aren't interessted in if it's gnome/a gnome app that's crashing or linux, it's just crashing.'' |
| 04:19.33 | purple_cow | not exactly the best written article :P |
| 04:20.05 | lurgy | yay shoes |
| 04:23.19 | purple_cow | it always amazes me how passionate kids can get over software |
| 04:23.58 | purple_cow | especially when they're just users, not developers |
| 04:24.38 | rioter | yeah its interesting |
| 04:27.37 | scanlime | mm, red bull |
| 04:28.03 | ChipX86 | are you at the place? |
| 04:28.12 | scanlime | ChipX86: you sure the adaptor doesn't have some circuitry inside? A lot of cheap 110-to-220 adaptors use really suspicious methods that generate odd waveforms |
| 04:28.17 | scanlime | yeah |
| 04:28.24 | ChipX86 | I should head over I guess |
| 04:28.25 | scanlime | wasn't getting any work done, figured I'd show up early |
| 04:28.28 | ChipX86 | it's not supposed to |
| 04:28.30 | ChipX86 | but it might |
| 04:28.37 | ChipX86 | sounds more loose than anything |
| 04:28.37 | scanlime | could take it apart :) |
| 04:28.44 | ChipX86 | how much should I worry about this? |
| 04:28.52 | scanlime | loose? it shoudn't have any parts.. moving or non-moving :P |
| 04:28.59 | ChipX86 | I mean the connection |
| 04:29.11 | scanlime | heh |
| 04:29.28 | scanlime | doubt it's a huge problem.. |
| 04:29.30 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 04:29.37 | scanlime | biggest question is: how easy is it to replace the AC adaptor ;) |
| 04:29.49 | ChipX86 | I can buy one once they sell them in the US, I think |
| 04:29.57 | scanlime | what's the output voltage? |
| 04:30.11 | ChipX86 | 5V |
| 04:30.14 | scanlime | oh |
| 04:30.18 | scanlime | I've got dozens of those |
| 04:30.20 | ChipX86 | it's a very very tiny plug |
| 04:30.27 | ChipX86 | I couldn't find a single thing at Frys that would fit it |
| 04:30.36 | scanlime | you can cut off the plug and solder it onto a new supply :P |
| 04:30.43 | ChipX86 | true |
| 04:30.51 | ChipX86 | ok, going to head over |
| 04:30.51 | purple_cow | sacresy |
| 04:30.53 | scanlime | k |
| 04:30.54 | ChipX86 | be there soonish |
| 04:33.49 | scanlime | sigh |
| 04:33.57 | scanlime | I've got this great file format in my mind |
| 04:34.02 | scanlime | and I want to write a python module for it |
| 04:34.06 | scanlime | but I have no name for it |
| 04:36.13 | purple_cow | jetcow? ;) |
| 04:36.17 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:36.29 | scanlime | if only it had a copy-on-write aspect, I might have an excuse... |
| 04:37.16 | purple_cow | who needs excuses? |
| 04:50.32 | scanlime | hrm |
| 04:51.01 | scanlime | if this is going to work the way I thought, I need a way of casting a double to the nearest float in such a way that it always rounds down |
| 04:57.02 | *** join/#tacobeam Veight (i=Veight@c-24-118-220-75.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 04:58.58 | purple_cow | ChipX86: can you update the version of sexy-url-label in notification-daemon? |
| 05:01.18 | purple_cow | current copy doesn't support < / > properly |
| 05:02.23 | *** join/#tacobeam spooklight (n=jamie@adsl-69-110-255-58.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net) |
| 05:12.04 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9211 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notify-osd/notify-osd.c: libnotify hotness |
| 05:15.55 | *** join/#tacobeam riotert (n=rar@dsl-220-253-64-16.NSW.netspace.net.au) |
| 05:17.56 | rioter | mmm i get my new pda in 7 days :) |
| 05:20.57 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: yeah |
| 05:29.23 | ChipX86 | hey spooklight |
| 05:29.29 | ChipX86 | laptop died :( |
| 05:29.30 | spooklight | hello :) |
| 05:29.35 | spooklight | wha--?? |
| 05:29.43 | ChipX86 | in the normal way where I had to pull the battery |
| 05:29.50 | ChipX86 | but that's why I didn't say hi earlier |
| 05:30.01 | spooklight | so, is it ok now? |
| 05:30.08 | ChipX86 | for some definition of ok :) |
| 05:30.13 | spooklight | ;/ |
| 05:32.13 | purple_cow | still no word from ibm? |
| 05:33.06 | ChipX86 | oh I didn't tell you? |
| 05:33.12 | ChipX86 | the guy called again yesterday |
| 05:33.36 | spooklight | ChipX86, did you tell me that? |
| 05:33.40 | ChipX86 | think so |
| 05:33.45 | ChipX86 | he said good news! |
| 05:33.49 | ChipX86 | they found a laptop that would suite me |
| 05:33.57 | spooklight | ChipX86, oh yeah, you did :) |
| 05:33.59 | ChipX86 | so they just need to fax me osmething and then I sign it and send it back |
| 05:34.06 | ChipX86 | and then they'll ship it to me |
| 05:34.21 | ChipX86 | I never got the fax, but that *might* be vmware's fault. *might* |
| 05:36.27 | purple_cow | :P |
| 05:37.20 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2247 10notification-daemon/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Remove sexy-url-label and instead depend on libsexy. Sadly, this requires that I remove my "get-sexy" make target : |
| 05:37.38 | purple_cow | hehe, good target |
| 05:37.50 | ChipX86 | it was :( |
| 05:38.56 | ChipX86 | something smells good |
| 05:39.12 | spooklight | donuts? |
| 05:39.25 | purple_cow | frisbees! |
| 05:39.36 | scanlime | far out! |
| 05:39.48 | ChipX86 | yay Back to the Future |
| 05:39.53 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:42.41 | scanlime | go little laptop, you can do it... |
| 05:45.53 | ChipX86 | spooklight: please please remind me to pay rent :( I'm going to be charged extra |
| 05:45.59 | ChipX86 | might be too late now actually |
| 05:46.49 | spooklight | ChipX86, aww :( well, i probably won't remember but maybe you will now that you've told me :) |
| 05:47.17 | ChipX86 | hopefully |
| 05:47.22 | rioter | ChipX86 pay rent |
| 05:47.22 | ChipX86 | write it on your forehead |
| 05:47.28 | ChipX86 | rioter: thanks |
| 05:47.35 | ChipX86 | remind me later when I'm not away from home :) |
| 05:47.39 | rioter | not a problem |
| 05:48.45 | scanlime | # Read the manual if you want to enable InnoDB! |
| 05:48.46 | scanlime | skip-innodb |
| 05:48.49 | scanlime | fuck you, debian |
| 05:49.04 | ChipX86 | rioter: it's in case you have a 3D PDF |
| 05:49.08 | ChipX86 | it converts it into a 2D one |
| 05:49.28 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:49.34 | rioter | hehe |
| 05:49.42 | ChipX86 | rioter: you must be careful when flattening certain PDFs, as parts of it will smear |
| 05:50.15 | rioter | ChipX86 thanks for the advice it seems to take a while, so perhaps its being extra carefull |
| 05:50.32 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 05:50.36 | ChipX86 | the latest versions are better at that |
| 05:51.33 | rioter | this pdf has a little picture of a man, i hope hes alright in the process |
| 05:51.45 | ChipX86 | that's probably why it's being extra careful |
| 05:52.06 | ChipX86 | now I can't help but visualize that |
| 05:52.54 | scanlime | I can feel the red bull invading the little blood vessels in my brain |
| 05:53.00 | ChipX86 | I should get some |
| 05:53.09 | scanlime | been years since I've had this stuff |
| 05:53.14 | scanlime | now I'm curious how it tastes in vodka >:) |
| 05:53.16 | ChipX86 | isn't it horriblly wonderful? |
| 05:53.38 | scanlime | yeah. I don't know why I like it |
| 05:53.44 | rioter | its pretty nice in vodka |
| 05:53.50 | ChipX86 | might try it in vodka |
| 05:54.11 | rioter | just make it at home |
| 05:54.21 | ChipX86 | make red bull? |
| 05:54.42 | rioter | if america is anything like australia, it costs about 8-12$ for 30mil of vodka and a little bit of redbull |
| 05:54.55 | ChipX86 | already have vodka. Just need the red bull |
| 05:55.01 | scanlime | drinks are always overpriced at bars and such |
| 05:55.21 | scanlime | typical to pay $5 for a bottle of guinness, or $8 for a mixed drink |
| 05:55.23 | scanlime | kinda awful |
| 05:55.53 | scanlime | innodb is eating my laptop hard drive... I can hear it chewing, with its mouth open |
| 05:56.05 | ChipX86 | I think I'll make galago just a bit more politically correct |
| 05:56.16 | ChipX86 | native/foreign person and service -> local/remote |
| 05:56.22 | rioter | eh, pubs in australia are alright 2.50 for a scooner of beer or there abouts |
| 05:56.39 | scanlime | see, I bet cheap beer in australia is a lot nicer than cheap beer here |
| 05:57.39 | rioter | i would assume so alot of bands that tour here rave about vb |
| 05:57.39 | purple_cow | ChipX86: pff |
| 05:57.42 | rioter | which is our cheapest beer |
| 05:57.51 | purple_cow | you need classifications like FOAB |
| 05:57.57 | ChipX86 | Friends of a Bear? |
| 05:58.17 | purple_cow | fresh off a boat |
| 05:58.28 | rioter | ChipX86 was big foot in the area? |
| 05:58.32 | purple_cow | political correctness is for chumps |
| 05:58.36 | ChipX86 | rioter: I didn't check |
| 05:58.40 | scanlime | hehe |
| 05:58.44 | ChipX86 | I locked my door, though, just in case |
| 05:59.20 | ChipX86 | I feel dirty. I'm declaring galago_core_create_service in galago-core.h and implementing in galago-service.c |
| 05:59.46 | scanlime | hmm |
| 05:59.51 | scanlime | my dad just bought a compaq laptop :( |
| 05:59.59 | ChipX86 | compaq is still around? |
| 06:00.33 | purple_cow | ChipX86: they're a part of HP now |
| 06:00.55 | ChipX86 | I remember them buying compaq, but I kind of thought the PC division went away |
| 06:01.16 | purple_cow | server division went away |
| 06:01.22 | purple_cow | they're still using the brand name for some reason |
| 06:01.35 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:01.37 | scanlime | kinda hungry... |
| 06:01.39 | ChipX86 | same |
| 06:01.49 | scanlime | know how late gyros gyros is open? :) |
| 06:01.57 | ChipX86 | I think they're closed by now actually |
| 06:02.04 | ChipX86 | last time I was in that area around now, they weren't open |
| 06:02.09 | scanlime | bah |
| 06:02.53 | ChipX86 | going to just get some donuts |
| 06:02.58 | purple_cow | donuts are a good dinner |
| 06:02.59 | ChipX86 | eventually |
| 06:03.34 | ChipX86 | very |
| 06:05.52 | scanlime | ChipX86: what kind of fastish-but-good food is open late around here? |
| 06:06.04 | scanlime | gyros gyros is really the only good take-out I've seen in palo alto so far |
| 06:06.11 | scanlime | and they really aren't open that late |
| 06:06.32 | scanlime | I kinda expected more places like silvermine or illegal pete's, for a college town |
| 06:06.57 | spooklight | ChipX86, um, excuse me, but....aren't you and Scanline sitting right next to each other? |
| 06:07.18 | scanlime | ChipX86: nah, he got up to get some drinks |
| 06:07.28 | ChipX86 | now I'm back |
| 06:07.36 | scanlime | liar! |
| 06:07.40 | ChipX86 | am not! |
| 06:07.49 | spooklight | hmm :/ |
| 06:08.03 | scanlime | I wonder if this is linux's I/O scheduler sucking, or innodb... |
| 06:08.12 | ChipX86 | I blame both |
| 06:08.26 | scanlime | but my disk is seeking all over the place, and all I'm doing is loading an sql dump |
| 06:08.35 | scanlime | purple_cow: nah. that explains the slowness, but not why it's seeking so much |
| 06:08.44 | scanlime | actually |
| 06:08.46 | scanlime | I bet it's the RAM |
| 06:09.05 | scanlime | innodb likes having a table's entire index resident in RAM.. and CIA's database is just too big for that on this machin |
| 06:09.09 | scanlime | but flapjack has the same problem |
| 06:09.29 | ChipX86 | donut crumbly |
| 06:09.35 | scanlime | yep |
| 06:16.09 | numist | :D |
| 06:16.30 | scanlime | ChipX86 and I should go to the store for hotdogs and wine! |
| 06:17.03 | spooklight | .....hotdogs and...wine?? |
| 06:17.35 | scanlime | and then I'm gonna kiss your PINEAPPLE! |
| 06:19.16 | purple_cow | poor spooklight, doesn't know the B-52s |
| 06:20.12 | spooklight | :( |
| 06:21.10 | scanlime | hmm... http://www.scipy.org/wikis/numdesign/ |
| 06:24.01 | scanlime | ooh.. matplotlib looks perfect for getting lots of pretty graphs into CIA >:) |
| 06:28.16 | ChipX86 | yay for lag |
| 06:28.23 | ChipX86 | hotdogs and wine...? |
| 06:28.30 | scanlime | guess I get to build it.. no ubuntu packages |
| 06:29.53 | purple_cow | poor ChipX86, doesn't know the B-52s |
| 06:29.58 | scanlime | :) |
| 06:30.02 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 06:30.12 | scanlime | I'm gonna drag him to my apartment now and turn on the strobe light |
| 06:30.28 | ChipX86 | noooo |
| 06:30.38 | spooklight | ChipX86, don't worry, i'm just as confused as you |
| 06:30.50 | scanlime | purple_cow: it's ok, he doesn't know what I'm talking about >:) |
| 06:31.05 | scanlime | and I don't think I have a working strobe light... |
| 06:31.43 | scanlime | hrm |
| 06:31.49 | scanlime | I'm a little worried about matplotlib's speed |
| 06:32.23 | ChipX86 | you should rewrite it in asm |
| 06:32.41 | scanlime | "Antigrain geometry"? |
| 06:32.55 | purple_cow | well, it's like grain geometry... |
| 06:33.51 | scanlime | "Anti-Grain Geometry (AGG) is an Open Source, free of charge graphic library, written in industrially standard C++." |
| 06:33.55 | scanlime | industrially standard, eh |
| 06:34.39 | scanlime | ooh, and it does "fast vectorial polygon clipping" |
| 06:34.55 | scanlime | wonder if that's like a geometric factorial |
| 06:36.45 | scanlime | strange build system |
| 06:37.09 | scanlime | it's distutils, with a lot of random C++ nonsense! |
| 06:37.52 | purple_cow | http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051105/FEATURES/511050325/1011/SCENE |
| 06:39.15 | purple_cow | the photo is the best part |
| 06:40.25 | scanlime | that's great =) |
| 06:48.56 | scanlime | bah |
| 06:49.01 | scanlime | matplotlib is pretty, but slow and hard to compile |
| 06:49.09 | ChipX86 | what are you using it for? |
| 06:49.19 | scanlime | pondering a way to do graphs of activity over time for CIA |
| 06:49.56 | scanlime | matplotlib is way overkill for that, but it has pie charts, which are always impressive :) |
| 06:50.08 | purple_cow | scanlime: what about your PIL-based pie chart code? |
| 06:50.09 | scanlime | I don't think my USB tool at work will truly impress managers until it has a pie chart |
| 06:50.21 | scanlime | purple_cow: well, I don't really need pie charts yet :) |
| 06:50.26 | scanlime | thought about PIL |
| 06:50.35 | purple_cow | i mean, that's done, and it's pretty |
| 06:50.45 | scanlime | it's also very very slow |
| 06:50.49 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:50.51 | scanlime | and memory hungry |
| 06:50.53 | ChipX86 | write it in asm! |
| 06:50.58 | ChipX86 | or compile it in gentoo |
| 06:50.59 | scanlime | heh |
| 06:51.03 | ChipX86 | it'll be much faster |
| 06:51.07 | scanlime | the problem is that PIL doesn't have antialiasing, so I used oversampling |
| 06:51.36 | scanlime | I don't need antialiasing for the body of the graph, since I'll just be doing an interval query against my timestamp database for each column and plotting a column of pixels |
| 06:51.52 | scanlime | so the fanciest graphics library functionality I'll need is some text for the scales |
| 06:52.03 | scanlime | I might even have it do the graph scales client-side, with CSS |
| 06:52.27 | scanlime | so it could just be a matter of having my library (which still needs a name) just have a function to spit out a PNG with graph data |
| 07:01.19 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 07:05.39 | numist | yay princess bride |
| 07:05.55 | ChipX86 | yay, all native and foreign people are gone |
| 07:10.36 | scanlime | mmm |
| 07:11.06 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9212 10motion/py/shuffle-interpolate.py: more implementation |
| 07:11.25 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2248 10libgalago/ (20 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:11.25 | CIA-9 | galago: Remove the concept of native and foreign people and services. Now theres a |
| 07:11.25 | CIA-9 | galago: GalagoOrigin enum containing GALAGO_LOCAL and GALAGO_REMOTE. Every object has |
| 07:11.25 | CIA-9 | galago: an origin set (or should at this point). This removes some confusion and |
| 07:11.25 | CIA-9 | galago: improves the API just a bit. I probably broke everything. |
| 07:11.27 | purple_cow | just the plain ol' momokawa diamond |
| 07:11.28 | scanlime | this is odd, optimizing for minimum disk I/O rather than minimum CPU usage |
| 07:11.40 | purple_cow | at some point i should try some of the really good ones |
| 07:12.01 | scanlime | it's good stuff, especially for being so widely available at grocery stores ;) |
| 07:12.30 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 07:12.41 | scanlime | guh, this backup's still restoring |
| 07:12.47 | purple_cow | but it's not on "the shelf" |
| 07:13.08 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2249 10libgalago/ChangeLog: |
| 07:13.08 | CIA-9 | galago: (Always helps to finish the ChangeLog first...) |
| 07:13.08 | CIA-9 | galago: Removed galago_service_new() and added galago_core_create_service(). The new one doesn't take an origin, unlike the old function, as programs should never have to create a foreign^Wremote service. |
| 07:13.09 | purple_cow | liquormart has a shelf of sakes with the little wine reviews under them, which are generally >$30 a bottle |
| 07:13.25 | scanlime | wow |
| 07:13.41 | purple_cow | and the labels are completely in japanese, with a little importer label on the bakc |
| 07:14.02 | ChipX86 | time to update every other thing that touches galago |
| 07:14.20 | ChipX86 | it's a good thing there's no galago tinderbox. It would be broken more than main! |
| 07:14.58 | scanlime | so it'd be broken 25 hours a day? |
| 07:15.04 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 07:15.25 | ChipX86 | why is this compiling.. |
| 07:16.28 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2250 10gaim-galago/ (ChangeLog src/gaim-galago.c): Use galago_core_create_service() instead of galago_service_new(). |
| 07:18.04 | scanlime | best-case, this format should be able to store a commit in 1 byte :) |
| 07:19.23 | ChipX86 | ooh, you should add that to VMware so we can store VMs in 1 byte |
| 07:20.12 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2251 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog src/main.c): Use galago_core_create_service() instead of galago_service_new(). |
| 07:22.19 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2252 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog tests/presence-feed-2.c tests/presence-feed.c): Use GALAGO_SERVICE_ID_* instead of hard-coding ID strings in the test apps. |
| 07:23.23 | ChipX86 | it got noisy |
| 07:33.25 | scanlime | wow |
| 07:33.30 | scanlime | yay for CIA not cleaning out its database |
| 07:33.37 | scanlime | I have 10k commits in their entirety stored for gnome |
| 07:34.17 | purple_cow | haha |
| 07:34.30 | scanlime | lots of test data for my storage experiments :) |
| 07:35.08 | scanlime | so I'm having all these evil ideas for keeping the files small by using variable-length integers everywhere |
| 07:35.45 | scanlime | but one of the great traits this format should have is that I know a lot about it just by reading the file size.. and that in the common case, appending a new commit is as simple as tacking 4 bytes onto the end of the file |
| 07:35.58 | scanlime | wow |
| 07:36.09 | scanlime | 100k items in the stats_messages table for total/commits |
| 07:36.20 | purple_cow | that's a lot of commits |
| 07:36.27 | scanlime | yeah |
| 07:36.29 | scanlime | poor mysql... |
| 07:37.24 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9213 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notify-osd/notify-osd.c: more notification hotness. i'm gonna say this plugin is just about complete |
| 07:38.56 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9214 10motion/py/shuffle-interpolate.py: aha |
| 07:40.35 | purple_cow | ChipX86: do i just give notify_icon_new_from_uri a filename? |
| 07:40.43 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 07:40.49 | ChipX86 | all that's being cleaned up by J5, btw |
| 07:41.01 | ChipX86 | he's kind of taken over parts of this for the time being |
| 07:41.21 | ChipX86 | so the news reader on the 770 kicks ass, and I need to come up with some really neat program to write for it |
| 07:41.23 | scanlime | should I worry about y2038? |
| 07:41.27 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 07:41.42 | ChipX86 | but mainly you should be worrying that you'll probably still be maintaining it in 2038 |
| 07:41.50 | scanlime | ugh |
| 07:41.51 | scanlime | yes |
| 07:42.06 | ChipX86 | you had a chance to get out. You could have given the project to Diablo-D3 |
| 07:42.08 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:42.11 | scanlime | :) |
| 07:42.21 | scanlime | he would have it running like a well-oiled fireplace |
| 07:42.25 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 07:42.46 | ChipX86 | ooh, the 770s are apparently coming out on Nov. 10th |
| 07:42.55 | ChipX86 | Philip will be happy |
| 07:43.31 | purple_cow | yikes |
| 07:43.33 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 07:43.45 | purple_cow | no notify_icon_new_from_uri_at_size... |
| 07:43.50 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 07:43.59 | ChipX86 | no scaley on the server I take it? |
| 07:44.11 | ChipX86 | I'm amused that someone ported gkrellm to the 770 |
| 07:44.40 | purple_cow | ChipX86: nope |
| 07:44.43 | purple_cow | big image :) |
| 07:44.53 | purple_cow | at least, comparatively |
| 07:45.07 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 07:45.43 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9215 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/data/Makefile.am: install the 48x48 icon into the datadir as well as the application icon dir |
| 07:46.09 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9216 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notify-osd/ (Makefile.am notify-osd.c): Use the xchat-gnome icon for notifications. Astounding! |
| 07:46.33 | purple_cow | ChipX86: this is really pretty hot |
| 07:46.45 | ChipX86 | ooh screenshot? |
| 07:47.52 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9217 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ChangeLog: stuff since 0.6 |
| 07:49.01 | scanlime | hrm |
| 07:49.08 | scanlime | this is going to be O(N) |
| 07:49.25 | scanlime | N will be small, but it still bothers me |
| 07:50.10 | purple_cow | arg! |
| 07:50.19 | purple_cow | so apparently alt+printscreen doesn't capture notification popups |
| 07:50.22 | purple_cow | just has garbage there |
| 07:50.25 | ChipX86 | :(( |
| 07:50.29 | purple_cow | but import works |
| 07:50.30 | ChipX86 | why?? |
| 07:50.33 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 07:50.35 | purple_cow | dunno |
| 07:50.54 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/tmp/screenshot.png |
| 07:51.09 | purple_cow | that notification is from the xchat-gnome on the other workspace |
| 07:51.11 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 07:51.15 | purple_cow | they only pop up when the window isn't focused :) |
| 07:51.17 | scanlime | gnumeric can't handle more than 65k rows or columns. grr |
| 07:51.34 | scanlime | purple_cow: ooh, neat |
| 07:51.38 | ChipX86 | from purple_cow, but it says "evil_enchilada: hello!" |
| 07:52.13 | purple_cow | ChipX86: that's on the purple_cow xchat-gnome |
| 07:52.19 | ChipX86 | oh ok |
| 07:52.21 | purple_cow | it's a little confusing because i have 2 clients open |
| 07:52.21 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 07:52.42 | purple_cow | one to send the /msg, one to recieve it and pop up the notification |
| 07:53.19 | ChipX86 | wowee, I've never seen/heard such fierce chess matches |
| 07:57.09 | spooklight | good night all -_- |
| 07:57.38 | purple_cow | 'night |
| 07:59.37 | scanlime | I could call it jetwoc |
| 07:59.41 | ChipX86 | do it |
| 07:59.53 | purple_cow | hah |
| 08:00.00 | scanlime | write-on-commit ;) |
| 08:00.50 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 08:01.19 | purple_cow | that's terrible |
| 08:01.27 | scanlime | yep |
| 08:04.14 | purple_cow | hmm, looks like raster's drunk again |
| 08:04.40 | scanlime | I'm not sure I've ever seen him sober |
| 08:05.36 | ChipX86 | a drunk raster is a {fun,productive,insane,drunk} raster |
| 08:05.49 | purple_cow | scanlime: hehe |
| 08:05.52 | ChipX86 | "accepssible" |
| 08:05.53 | ChipX86 | I like that word |
| 08:05.54 | CIA-9 | numi-misc: 03numist * r156 10profiler/ (13 files in 2 dirs): profiler - a new way to track efficiency and report metrics on running scripts |
| 08:19.31 | ChipX86 | I think my first app is going to have to be an improved package manager that lets you forcefully delete things |
| 08:29.07 | purple_cow | ooh, cool |
| 08:29.09 | purple_cow | worldwind is on CIA |
| 08:31.10 | scanlime | worldwind? |
| 08:32.47 | purple_cow | basically NASA's keyhole-like app |
| 08:33.31 | scanlime | oh, right |
| 08:33.37 | scanlime | too lazy for google |
| 08:34.28 | purple_cow | boo |
| 08:34.40 | purple_cow | ooh, neat |
| 08:34.42 | purple_cow | http://akita.larvalstage.net/~wasabi/auto.png |
| 08:34.53 | ChipX86 | ooohhh |
| 08:34.54 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 08:35.02 | ChipX86 | that needs to go on my 770 |
| 08:35.28 | scanlime | that's cute. Is that an embedded web browser, or did they clone the google UI with cairo or gdk? |
| 08:35.43 | purple_cow | gecko# |
| 08:35.47 | scanlime | ah |
| 08:38.35 | purple_cow | ChipX86: svn url in #gnome-hackers ;) |
| 08:38.55 | ChipX86 | bah, C# |
| 08:39.02 | ChipX86 | have to rewrite |
| 08:39.15 | ChipX86 | still cool |
| 08:39.34 | scanlime | pff, rewrite? |
| 08:39.38 | scanlime | why can't that thing run mono? |
| 08:40.01 | ChipX86 | it can, but there's no native Hildon (UI extensions and stuff for 770) bindings yet, and this has too little memory as it is |
| 08:40.15 | scanlime | still, on a relatively limited device it seems to make more sense to write a custom UI instead of using a web browser |
| 08:40.19 | scanlime | could port pyhole :) |
| 08:40.54 | scanlime | how much local storage does that thing have, for cache? |
| 08:41.10 | purple_cow | ChipX86: is it just me, or does pvanhoof seem to have his feet planted firmly in the air? |
| 08:41.30 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 08:41.40 | ChipX86 | well galago on the 770 is a definite thing |
| 08:43.43 | purple_cow | i mean about everything else |
| 08:43.52 | ChipX86 | oh, yeah |
| 08:44.16 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 08:44.29 | ChipX86 | I thought I came up with a good replacement name for the {set,get}_property functions, but now I forgot it |
| 08:48.00 | scanlime | oh no |
| 08:48.02 | scanlime | oh no oh no |
| 08:48.10 | scanlime | one of the chess guys just said "oh frell" |
| 08:48.13 | scanlime | my world is falling apart |
| 08:48.20 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 08:48.27 | purple_cow | go punch him in the mouth |
| 08:48.42 | purple_cow | right now! do it! |
| 08:48.47 | scanlime | not sure which one it was |
| 08:48.50 | purple_cow | do both |
| 08:48.55 | scanlime | there are 4 of them |
| 08:49.02 | scanlime | I'm really too lazy to punch 4 people right now :) |
| 08:49.17 | ChipX86 | they're aggressive |
| 08:49.23 | scanlime | yes. could be dangerous |
| 08:49.32 | purple_cow | they'll be less aggressive after a good mouth-boxing |
| 08:49.33 | scanlime | and I'm still stressing out over this file format |
| 08:49.36 | scanlime | at least I have a name for it now' |
| 08:55.07 | ChipX86 | maybe attribute |
| 08:55.13 | ChipX86 | galago_object_set_attribute |
| 08:56.48 | ChipX86 | damn you GObject! |
| 08:57.03 | purple_cow | g_object_set_attribute? :) |
| 08:57.14 | ChipX86 | no, just in general |
| 08:57.20 | ChipX86 | I want to call it a property :) |
| 08:57.26 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:57.35 | ChipX86 | I may have been here last, but damnit, I was here! |
| 08:58.49 | purple_cow | attribute sounds good |
| 08:58.58 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 08:59.16 | ChipX86 | and then do I make it per-person and then have a very similar but differently named thing for accounts and services? |
| 08:59.21 | ChipX86 | I guess it's better to do it once |
| 09:22.30 | scanlime | kinda tempted to order some Real Food (tm) |
| 09:28.05 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 09:28.53 | purple_cow | yep, i do believe i was correct about him |
| 09:34.02 | scanlime | not enough C code uses negative array indices |
| 09:36.39 | scanlime | this donut shop needs to sell sake |
| 09:36.49 | purple_cow | hah |
| 09:37.19 | purple_cow | donuts and sake |
| 09:37.24 | purple_cow | that's almost as good as hot dogs and wine |
| 09:37.26 | scanlime | yep |
| 09:38.35 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9218 10motion/py/ (Dance/MotionGraph.py shuffle-interpolate.py): more progress, but it seems like darth_mall's code is broken! no more working on this for tonight! |
| 09:42.13 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 09:42.18 | purple_cow | george takei has such a sexy voice |
| 09:53.37 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 09:53.48 | purple_cow | hot sake is definitely a cold-weather drink |
| 09:56.47 | purple_cow | "i don't know you. but you...i never forget a face, mister...chekov, is it?" |
| 09:56.58 | purple_cow | khan is so awesome |
| 09:57.16 | purple_cow | "you are in a position to demand nothing, sir. I am in a position to grant nothing." |
| 10:04.37 | purple_cow | best star trek villain ever |
| 10:48.25 | purple_cow | whee |
| 10:48.36 | purple_cow | i forgot that kirk yells "KAHN!" so loudly that it echos in space |
| 10:48.55 | scanlime | :) |
| 10:56.16 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2253 10libgalago/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 10:56.16 | CIA-9 | galago: - Add properties to GalagoPerson. |
| 10:56.17 | CIA-9 | galago: - Remove galago_person_new() and add galago_core_create_person(). |
| 10:56.17 | CIA-9 | galago: - Remove galago_person_me_new(). galago_core_get_me() will now always return a Me person in the local case. Nothing has changed for the remote case. |
| 11:00.08 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 11:00.13 | purple_cow | lookit khan, bein' all...chesty |
| 11:00.24 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2254 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-core.h): Document how galago_core_get_me() will always return a "Me" person in the local case. |
| 11:01.05 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2255 10gaim-galago/ (ChangeLog src/gaim-galago.c): Updated to use galago_core_create_person() and galago_core_get_me(). |
| 11:03.17 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2256 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog src/main.c): Use galago_core_create_person() instead of galago_person_new(). |
| 11:16.13 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2257 10galago-daemon/ (ChangeLog src/meta-person.c src/meta-service.c): Use galago_core_create_person() and galago_core_create_service(). |
| 11:19.38 | ChipX86 | chess is one of the most exciting and energetic sports in the whole world. I didn't know this until tonight |
| 11:21.15 | purple_cow | hehehe |
| 11:22.39 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2258 10libgalago-gtk/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Use GALAGO_LOCAL and GALAGO_REMOTE instead of TRUE, FALSE. |
| 11:28.43 | purple_cow | http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3327 |
| 11:30.03 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 11:33.40 | scanlime | hehe |
| 11:37.57 | purple_cow | ok, enough sake! |
| 11:38.03 | purple_cow | stuff can sneak up on you :P |
| 11:38.29 | scanlime | :) |
| 11:39.24 | scanlime | I love python... |
| 11:39.27 | scanlime | dataset = map(int, open("cia-commits.dataset")) |
| 11:40.37 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2260 10libgalago/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Okay, boys and girls. It's time to not crash on startup! |
| 11:42.04 | purple_cow | oof, it's getting late |
| 11:42.11 | purple_cow | quite late... |
| 11:42.37 | purple_cow | mornin' orchid |
| 11:42.51 | ChipX86 | also, you're supposed to swear every other word in chess |
| 11:42.53 | orchid | morning |
| 11:43.01 | ChipX86 | already? |
| 11:44.18 | scanlime | ChipX86: chess is exciting, bitch! |
| 11:44.28 | ChipX86 | fuck you bitch! Take that pawn! |
| 11:44.50 | scanlime | damn it |
| 11:44.52 | ChipX86 | oh god :) |
| 11:44.53 | scanlime | I just lost it |
| 11:45.12 | scanlime | sounds like ChipX86 did too |
| 11:45.27 | ChipX86 | need to stop laughing |
| 11:45.28 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9219 10xchat-gnome/plugins/net-monitor/net-monitor.c: Well, it's disconnecting properly. When the network is restored, it only reconnects to the first network, not sure why now, but it's getting really late |
| 11:45.58 | scanlime | purple_cow: well, I can explain why it's getting late, but you probably don't want to know.. it's kinda scary |
| 11:46.40 | ChipX86 | that poor clock |
| 11:46.43 | purple_cow | damnit |
| 11:46.53 | purple_cow | why does gaim pop-up the login window when i ctrl+q |
| 11:46.53 | scanlime | yeah :( |
| 11:47.07 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: in case you want to log in again! Maybe you were just teasing gaim |
| 11:47.10 | scanlime | purple_cow: the Q is silent |
| 11:47.14 | scanlime | and invisible |
| 11:48.10 | scanlime | international house of lemurs? |
| 11:48.15 | ChipX86 | see, if more chess matches were like this, it could get its own ESPN channel |
| 11:48.17 | purple_cow | international house of lunch |
| 11:48.19 | purple_cow | the E is silent |
| 11:48.22 | scanlime | :) |
| 11:48.55 | purple_cow | ChipX86: actually, i wouldn't be surprised if EPSN didn't cover that already |
| 11:49.05 | purple_cow | most of ESPN's traditional ground has been taken over by the broadcast networks |
| 11:49.09 | ChipX86 | I'd be surprised if it covered it the way that these guys are doing it |
| 11:49.30 | scanlime | Take that pawn, bitch! *slam* |
| 11:49.31 | ChipX86 | "Is there a fucking mate, bitch?" "I see a mate." "FUCK!" |
| 11:49.39 | scanlime | poor clock indeed... |
| 11:49.57 | scanlime | though I guess this isn't much different from Hikaru no Go :P |
| 11:50.03 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it's cable ;) |
| 11:50.18 | purple_cow | scanlime: are they taking 25 minutes to make a move? |
| 11:50.27 | ChipX86 | maybe 2 seconds. Maybe. |
| 11:50.30 | purple_cow | filled with suspenseful thinking, and flashbacks? |
| 11:50.50 | scanlime | purple_cow: well, the actionful parts, with lots of jumping and light rays shooting from fingers and such |
| 11:50.55 | ChipX86 | move *SLAM* "FUCK YOU!" move *SLAM* "YOU BITCH!" move *SLAM* "DAMNIT!" |
| 11:50.55 | purple_cow | that actually wasn't too terrible a show, if you were interested in the game |
| 11:51.16 | purple_cow | ChipX86: hehehe |
| 11:51.26 | purple_cow | i've played a few go games like that |
| 11:51.44 | ChipX86 | man I don't even remember what I was working on anymore :) |
| 11:51.59 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 11:55.17 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 11:55.26 | purple_cow | ChipX86: should i re-familiarize myself with gtkmm before monday? |
| 11:55.32 | ChipX86 | wouldn't hurt |
| 11:55.38 | ChipX86 | are you coming in Monday? |
| 11:55.44 | scanlime | coming in? :) |
| 11:55.59 | purple_cow | if by "coming in" you mean "chatting with philipl on the tellyphone", then yes |
| 11:56.02 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 11:56.09 | scanlime | still good |
| 11:56.10 | ChipX86 | then probably some algorithmic stuff |
| 11:56.14 | ChipX86 | but gtkmm wouldn't hutr |
| 11:56.36 | scanlime | they like asking questions about stacks and silly things like that |
| 11:57.01 | purple_cow | ah |
| 11:57.32 | scanlime | the phone screen process changed a little bit since I started |
| 11:57.40 | scanlime | but it's still something you should have no problem with |
| 11:57.48 | ChipX86 | it did? |
| 11:58.04 | scanlime | ChipX86: they didn't do the email stuff when I started |
| 11:58.14 | ChipX86 | oh. e-mail stuff? |
| 11:58.18 | ChipX86 | I'm out of touch :) |
| 11:58.20 | scanlime | heh |
| 11:58.25 | scanlime | should have gone to rob's meeting ;) |
| 11:58.26 | purple_cow | supposedly i'm getting an email a few minutes before the call |
| 11:58.29 | scanlime | right |
| 11:58.35 | purple_cow | dunno what about |
| 11:58.56 | scanlime | it will just be some stuff they want you to refer to when answering code questions |
| 11:59.10 | ChipX86 | ah ok |
| 11:59.13 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2261 10galago-daemon/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Fix the tools to use GALAGO_LOCAL and GALAGO_REMOTE instea of TRUE, FALSE. |
| 11:59.14 | ChipX86 | ohh right, I remember that |
| 11:59.21 | ChipX86 | Rob did that on one I shadowed |
| 11:59.25 | scanlime | yeah |
| 11:59.53 | purple_cow | ok, 5am |
| 12:00.02 | purple_cow | 'night folks |
| 12:00.05 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 12:00.06 | scanlime | g'night |
| 12:00.06 | ChipX86 | g'night purple_cow |
| 12:02.15 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2262 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog libgalago-gtk/galago-gtk-account-option-menu.c): Fix a call to galago_core_get_me() that wasn't using GALAGO_REMOTE. |
| 12:02.20 | scanlime | wow |
| 12:02.23 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 12:02.31 | scanlime | the chess match turned into some kind of growling deathmatch |
| 12:02.37 | ChipX86 | I hope they don't get hungry and eat us |
| 12:03.06 | scanlime | wonder if we'll be here long enough to worry about catching breakfast... |
| 12:03.15 | scanlime | I might be up for IHOP or something before we head home |
| 12:03.29 | ChipX86 | sure. I don't want to be up too much longer though |
| 12:03.32 | scanlime | :) |
| 12:04.56 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2263 10libgalago-gtk/ (ChangeLog tests/test-presence-icon.c): Updated test-presence-icon to fall back on looking for an account owned by the "me" person if the desired username isn't a contact on the account's buddy list. |
| 12:11.30 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2264 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-dbus.c): Fix get_ret_val_from_iter() so that we always pass the address of retval. |
| 12:42.07 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2265 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.defs src/galago.override): Update the bindings for all the API changes. |
| 12:50.27 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2266 10galago-python/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:50.27 | CIA-9 | galago: - Since the bindings generator seems to be screwing up the handling of default enum values in some cases, wrap those functions ourselves. |
| 12:50.27 | CIA-9 | galago: - Update get-presence.py to work with default arguments. |
| 12:50.57 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2267 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog tests/Makefile.am tests/presence-feed.py): Add presence-feed.py. |
| 13:18.04 | ChipX86 | don't think I can stay up much longer.. g'night |
| 13:37.57 | scanlime | woo... |
| 13:38.01 | scanlime | apparently Red Bull gives me the ability to drive exactly the speed limit down US-101 while singing along to David Bowie |
| 14:19.18 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9220 10fidtool/ (. Makefile _fidtool.c setup.py test.py): |
| 14:19.19 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: Made good progress on a new small Python project tonight: fidtool, a |
| 14:19.19 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: python extension module and stand-alone tool for managing Fast Interval |
| 14:19.19 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: Databases. A FID is a simple but somewhat unique data structure that |
| 14:19.19 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: can store large numbers of event timestamps in an IO-efficient manner, |
| 14:19.19 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: and quickly perform queries to check how many events occurred during an |
| 14:19.21 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: arbitrary time interval. This will eventually be used by CIA. |
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| 16:14.36 | TD | ChipX86|Sleep: is there any libnotify/gaim plugin? |
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| 16:15.08 | TD | incidentally gaim cvs has quite a cleaned up gui |
| 16:15.15 | TD | though the buddy list panels are confusing as heck |
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| 16:48.12 | Sophie197 | man, cramps |
| 16:48.33 | Sophie197 | somebody sock me in the arm so I can feel something new for awhile. |
| 16:50.24 | pagefault | poor sophie |
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| 18:24.08 | pagefault | yay I have my caffeine fix |
| 18:24.12 | pagefault | you are in toronto I see file |
| 18:24.17 | pagefault | or bell is messed up as usual :) |
| 18:44.39 | file[laptop] | yeah messed up |
| 18:44.40 | file[laptop] | :) |
| 19:14.27 | file[laptop] | yay pizza |
| 19:14.32 | file[laptop] | it's only, like, 2:14PM here... |
| 19:14.48 | pagefault | yes |
| 19:14.49 | pagefault | new timezone |
| 19:15.06 | pagefault | have you had a poutine yet |
| 19:15.10 | file[laptop] | no, I have not :P |
| 19:33.45 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/OSX/mapedit.xcode/ (jeffm.mode1 jeffm.pbxuser project.pbxproj): missing files for OSX |
| 20:11.26 | Sophie197 | farkers are mostly dumb. |
| 20:13.50 | darth_mall | farkers? |
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| 20:15.29 | darth_mall | hi lurgy |
| 20:19.43 | lurgy | morning |
| 20:25.12 | darth_mall | how are you? |
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| 20:28.28 | pagefault | it's a file |
| 20:52.04 | file[laptop] | Bell fixed the internet here |
| 20:58.23 | file[laptop] | pagefault: how's stuff? |
| 20:58.32 | pagefault | good |
| 20:58.33 | pagefault | you? |
| 20:59.23 | file[laptop] | not too bad |
| 20:59.24 | file[laptop] | getting hungry |
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| 21:07.58 | pagefault | poutine |
| 21:08.13 | file[laptop] | pfft |
| 21:08.23 | file[laptop] | I have to say, I'm liking the metro |
| 21:08.33 | pagefault | yes it's a nice subway |
| 21:14.01 | pagefault | are you at someone's house? |
| 21:14.36 | file[laptop] | apartment |
| 21:15.55 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:15.57 | pagefault | party! |
| 21:17.50 | file[laptop] | LOL |
| 21:17.52 | file[laptop] | party hearty? |
| 21:18.16 | pagefault | yep |
| 21:19.52 | scanlime | hmm |
| 21:20.02 | scanlime | ChipX86|Sleep: I believe the Nokia 770 needs a Fyre port ;) |
| 21:26.31 | scanlime | I kinda want pizza... |
| 21:41.04 | purple_cow | darth_mall: poke |
| 21:42.04 | darth_mall | hmm? |
| 21:42.27 | purple_cow | there seems to be some problem with the sequence stuff |
| 21:42.40 | purple_cow | running shuffle-interpolate.py on 02_01.asf, it gets some weird frame data |
| 21:44.05 | darth_mall | what do you mean weird? |
| 21:45.07 | purple_cow | bad dimensions |
| 21:46.31 | ChipX86 | scanlime: it really does :) |
| 21:46.45 | Sophie197 | holy crap, my friend is totally nuts |
| 21:46.53 | ChipX86 | NetworkManager is excellent and messing up my network settings |
| 21:47.21 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9221 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notify-osd/notify-osd.c: make it at least print *something* when init fails |
| 21:47.29 | Sophie197 | he emailed this chick for two months, then she got back with her ex.. then her sent an email to her family and friends asking why she was sending him mixed messages |
| 21:48.04 | scanlime | ChipX86: it's prolly just a recompile, though I admit I've never tested it's craaaazy graphics core on ARM |
| 21:48.12 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is there a difference in format between amc and asf files? |
| 21:48.27 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i meant amc :P |
| 21:48.39 | purple_cow | that data file is in svn |
| 21:48.40 | darth_mall | oh |
| 21:49.05 | purple_cow | ChipX86: would it be possible to somehow get a string explaining what went wrong if notify_init fails? |
| 21:49.46 | ChipX86 | hmmm, it should spit stuff to stderr if something went wrong. Or maybe htat's just galago |
| 21:49.58 | Sophie197 | well, isn't that crazy and insane? |
| 21:50.08 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: wasn't it working yesterday? |
| 21:50.17 | purple_cow | ChipX86: working for me, not working for another dude |
| 21:50.22 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 21:50.29 | ChipX86 | what version of dbus does he have? |
| 21:59.52 | darth_mall | grr... stupid gnuplot |
| 22:00.28 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: figured it was sometihng that easy |
| 22:01.01 | file[laptop] | uh, my IRC client is in the future |
| 22:01.14 | ChipX86 | cool. Any new features? |
| 22:05.00 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: it's psychic!!! |
| 22:09.36 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2268 10notification-daemon/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Bump to version 0.2.3. |
| 22:09.54 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9222 10motion/py/shuffle.py: Add an OptionParser, change the initial conditions for the original mapping. |
| 22:11.09 | darth_mall | purple_cow: where is this amc file? |
| 22:11.32 | purple_cow | oh, whoops :P |
| 22:11.51 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9223 10motion/data/ (02.asf 02_01.amc): i feel dumb |
| 22:16.43 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2269 10web/htdocs/releases: Add the notification-daemon 0.2.3 release. |
| 22:16.49 | purple_cow | woo! |
| 22:20.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: so what was the bug again that the new url label fixes? |
| 22:20.26 | purple_cow | ChipX86: couldn't use < > in the body without it disappearing |
| 22:23.24 | purple_cow | http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3145154&did=1 |
| 22:28.30 | scanlime | heh.. they advertised winCE on the dreamcast so much, but hardly anything actually used it |
| 22:28.40 | scanlime | it wasn't built into the console, games had to include a copy on their disc |
| 22:28.47 | scanlime | and most games just used Sega's OS |
| 22:29.02 | pagefault | haha |
| 22:29.07 | pagefault | what is so far superior about the PS3 |
| 22:29.22 | pagefault | they are shipping it with broken CPU's |
| 22:31.02 | purple_cow | pagefault: uhh. it won't be "shipping" for another 7 months |
| 22:31.38 | pagefault | yes but they have stated that the PS3 will "work-around" problems in their CPU manufacturing |
| 22:31.45 | pagefault | not all cores will be able to be used in every CPU |
| 22:32.34 | scanlime | won't be the first time... |
| 22:32.48 | scanlime | sharp shipped tons of zaurii with Xscales that had a crippling cache bug |
| 22:33.02 | pagefault | if I buy one I am going to wait for like like 3rd revision o fit |
| 22:33.03 | scanlime | gotta sell your buggy silicon somehow |
| 22:33.19 | pagefault | the first PS3 will be busted/not running the latest PS3 games in 6 months |
| 22:33.34 | purple_cow | pagefault: for the first couple years, not all cores will be used by the programmers either |
| 22:33.47 | purple_cow | remember how long it took for ps2 developers to figure out how to program the machine? |
| 22:33.57 | pagefault | but it would be nice to know I am not buying defective hardware |
| 22:34.42 | pagefault | sony really sucks for hardware quality |
| 22:34.51 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9224 10fidtool/ (_fidtool.c test.py): Seek operations on L0 and L1 pages are now implemented, as well as a basic L0 page append. Still plenty buggy. |
| 22:35.12 | purple_cow | i think the issue they're getting at is that the ps3 has a lot more potential than the xbox 360, and people at the cons saw that |
| 22:35.36 | pagefault | the PS3 was just running vidoes at E3 |
| 22:35.40 | pagefault | it wasn't even doing realtime rendering |
| 22:35.59 | numist | pagefault: the 360 didnt exist at E3, it was a power mac |
| 22:37.31 | pagefault | it will be interesting anyway |
| 22:37.41 | pagefault | both of them will have to try really hard to get attention from people |
| 22:38.19 | pagefault | I hope the xbox 360 is as easy to code on as the xbox is |
| 22:40.44 | scanlime | no console these days can seriously hope to succeed unless it's backward-compatible with the Game Boy |
| 22:40.59 | scanlime | it's too bad sony and microsoft didn't realize this until it was too late |
| 22:41.48 | pagefault | haw |
| 22:42.02 | pagefault | well with a little 3rd party work it can be |
| 22:42.14 | scanlime | no |
| 22:44.09 | pagefault | no what? |
| 22:45.39 | scanlime | no, the xbox 360 will never be as cool as the game boy |
| 22:45.42 | scanlime | not nearly enough RAM |
| 22:56.22 | numist | :) |
| 22:56.26 | numist | morning scanlime |
| 22:56.49 | scanlime | hi |
| 22:57.29 | ChipX86 | hey JayPee |
| 22:57.36 | JayPee | 'morning |
| 22:57.52 | ChipX86 | how goes? |
| 22:58.13 | JayPee | oh, ok |
| 22:58.20 | JayPee | coffee + donuts are helping. :-) |
| 22:58.30 | JayPee | ooh, you'd have a good answer to this: |
| 22:58.35 | JayPee | I'm looking for an ncurses replacement to gaim |
| 22:58.39 | JayPee | I've found naim |
| 22:58.49 | JayPee | any thoughts? |
| 22:58.59 | numist | I use bitlbee through irssi.. not the same as what you might want, but I love it |
| 22:59.07 | ChipX86 | not really. I attempted one based on libgaim at one point, but never continued it |
| 22:59.08 | numist | if you want to test it, athena.numist.net is open |
| 22:59.17 | JayPee | hrm... |
| 22:59.21 | scanlime | pork! |
| 22:59.23 | JayPee | I like the irssi interface |
| 22:59.30 | numist | :) |
| 22:59.30 | JayPee | but I'd have to run a different instance |
| 22:59.34 | numist | bitlbee is well done |
| 22:59.40 | JayPee | this irssi window is getting quite crowded |
| 22:59.46 | numist | not unless you want to run another instance |
| 22:59.48 | numist | ah yes |
| 23:00.00 | JayPee | I was thinking about using timps to solve this problem |
| 23:00.08 | JayPee | but then I realized it doesn't really solve my problem |
| 23:01.41 | JayPee | numist: so wait... bitlbee is a server you run that you can use to access IM networks via an IRC client? |
| 23:01.48 | numist | if you're looking at another terminal to keep your instant message stuff in, that sure doesnt hel uncrowd you :P |
| 23:02.03 | numist | JayPee: yep, just point to my server if you want to test it, I really like the interface |
| 23:02.11 | darth_mall | man this is taking a long time to generate these graphs |
| 23:02.47 | JayPee | the problem there is I don't want to run yet another server |
| 23:02.51 | JayPee | hrm |
| 23:02.59 | JayPee | also, the translation of IRC <-> IM is always crappy |
| 23:03.11 | JayPee | they'd have to tweak things pretty heavily to fix that |
| 23:03.11 | numist | the interface really impresses me |
| 23:03.14 | JayPee | (maybe they did) |
| 23:03.30 | numist | the only issue is that your nick is your bitlbee username, and you cant change it once you're connected |
| 23:04.03 | JayPee | I'm trying to get rid of all my remote X apps |
| 23:04.08 | JayPee | so xmms has been replaced with mocp |
| 23:04.13 | JayPee | (or rather, mocp is being tested) |
| 23:04.19 | JayPee | that leaves aumix, which uhh... works |
| 23:04.21 | JayPee | and gaim |
| 23:04.34 | numist | well, same core |
| 23:04.48 | JayPee | same... IM core? |
| 23:04.53 | numist | yep |
| 23:04.54 | JayPee | i.e. libfaim? |
| 23:04.58 | numist | yes |
| 23:05.00 | JayPee | ah |
| 23:05.02 | JayPee | not surprising |
| 23:05.07 | numist | no, it really isnt |
| 23:05.08 | JayPee | everyone uses libfaim |
| 23:05.24 | numist | er.. yes |
| 23:05.35 | ChipX86 | almost everybody |
| 23:05.45 | ChipX86 | those that don't always wonder why they have so many problems :) |
| 23:06.00 | numist | libfaim -ne libgaim? |
| 23:06.05 | ChipX86 | right |
| 23:06.10 | numist | nm then |
| 23:06.22 | ChipX86 | libfaim is the first good AIM library |
| 23:06.24 | JayPee | libfaim = libgaim - Sean_Egan's_crap + actually_working |
| 23:06.30 | numist | ah hah |
| 23:06.42 | numist | its probably faim then, although I havent looked terribly close at it |
| 23:06.52 | ChipX86 | libfaim is AIM-only though |
| 23:07.04 | numist | oh... well that decides it.. |
| 23:07.05 | ChipX86 | libgaim is good. It's my child... except now it's going nowhere |
| 23:07.10 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 23:07.12 | ChipX86 | since nobody cared about pushing it like I did |
| 23:07.17 | numist | bitlbee is libgaim, and doesnt support much else other than talking |
| 23:07.21 | numist | which is all I use my accounts for |
| 23:07.35 | JayPee | Lots of people have wondered why gaim wasn't forked. |
| 23:07.44 | numist | and the answer to that is? |
| 23:07.51 | ChipX86 | it's too big a program requiring too many intelligent developers |
| 23:07.54 | numist | ChipX86 didnt have enough time? |
| 23:07.56 | numist | right |
| 23:08.13 | ChipX86 | I couldn't do it myself. I'd need half the gaim crew. I felt around about this for a while, and most of them didn't want to fork |
| 23:08.17 | ChipX86 | so it never happened |
| 23:08.30 | ChipX86 | I don't believe anybody else could do it satisfactorily. The experts in IM really are on gaim |
| 23:08.52 | JayPee | I don't buy that. |
| 23:09.24 | ChipX86 | gaim has been forked by my count 5 times |
| 23:09.29 | ChipX86 | each one has failed miserably |
| 23:09.35 | ChipX86 | why should the 6th be any better? |
| 23:09.38 | numist | adium doesnt count as a fork, I gather |
| 23:09.41 | ChipX86 | right |
| 23:09.44 | ChipX86 | it uses the gaim core |
| 23:09.45 | numist | adium is moving really well, and it ROCKS |
| 23:10.17 | JayPee | ChipX86: because ostensibly, you'd pay attention to why the first five failed? |
| 23:10.50 | ChipX86 | JayPee: they failed because the only people who would join the projects are people who didn't know enough to be able to keep things up-to-date |
| 23:11.03 | ChipX86 | everybody who did know enough was already with an IM project and had no interest in leaving |
| 23:11.42 | numist | but in code, you dont have to choose one project *or* another |
| 23:11.48 | JayPee | were those projects gaim, or others? |
| 23:11.56 | ChipX86 | the correct solution is what telepathy is doing anyway |
| 23:12.00 | ChipX86 | so I don't really care much anymore |
| 23:12.10 | ChipX86 | JayPee: gaim, kopete, and other projects |
| 23:12.32 | JayPee | gotcha |
| 23:12.39 | JayPee | well, whatever |
| 23:12.41 | JayPee | it's a damn shame. ;-) |
| 23:12.49 | ChipX86 | gaim is the old way of doing things anyway |
| 23:13.03 | ChipX86 | once IM becomes a desktop-level service, it just won't matter anymore |
| 23:13.20 | JayPee | yeah, but open source is always behind that curve |
| 23:13.20 | ChipX86 | if you like a buddy list UI, you use it. If you like a panel UI, you use it. |
| 23:13.29 | ChipX86 | no, we're making that happen |
| 23:13.29 | JayPee | there was an article about tihs |
| 23:13.33 | ChipX86 | that's what Telepathy is all about |
| 23:13.40 | JayPee | how far behind we are with the newer UI stuff in IM |
| 23:13.52 | ChipX86 | Nokia is backing Telepathy too |
| 23:13.54 | JayPee | (which typically don't get implemented in an open source context because we find them annoying.) |
| 23:15.01 | JayPee | I'm bored. |
| 23:15.16 | JayPee | I should do somehting like implementing encrypted loopback filesystems on my laptop |
| 23:15.21 | JayPee | that'd be a good waste of time. |
| 23:16.17 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:16.22 | ChipX86 | you missed a good hackfest last night |
| 23:16.37 | ChipX86 | chess, it turns out, is a very tense and aggressive sport |
| 23:16.54 | JayPee | is it, now? |
| 23:16.57 | numist | you guys had a hackfest there too? |
| 23:17.04 | JayPee | I imagine there's a story coming on... |
| 23:17.20 | numist | from friday afternoon to saturday night I had a hackfest |
| 23:17.29 | scanlime | I was out by myself at the graveyars |
| 23:17.35 | scanlime | I was doing an interpretive dance |
| 23:17.47 | scanlime | I felt something heavy and pointed strike me in the back of my neck |
| 23:17.57 | JayPee | oh, scanlime how was the concert? |
| 23:18.16 | scanlime | best one yet =D |
| 23:18.35 | TD | ChipX86: telepathy? |
| 23:18.46 | scanlime | they started out with a big set of their venue songs :) |
| 23:18.55 | ChipX86 | TD: do you remember when I was coming up with concepts for a desktop-level IM framework that wraps Galago? |
| 23:19.00 | TD | yeah |
| 23:19.03 | TD | vaguely |
| 23:19.31 | ChipX86 | well I didn't have time for it really, so a couple people I had been discussing this with took over (with my blessing :) and are developing it now |
| 23:19.32 | JayPee | scanlime: hah... great! |
| 23:19.40 | JayPee | where the sets different, as you had anticipated? |
| 23:19.44 | JayPee | *were |
| 23:19.45 | ChipX86 | and it will happen. There's a contract and everything |
| 23:19.46 | TD | oh, awesome. that's interesting. what sort of ideas are they coming up with? |
| 23:19.55 | TD | any mockups/descriptions? |
| 23:20.01 | ChipX86 | yeah, one sec |
| 23:20.14 | ChipX86 | http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/ |
| 23:20.41 | scanlime | JayPee: of course |
| 23:20.57 | scanlime | nice long shows too |
| 23:21.03 | scanlime | with TMBG's typical two encores : |
| 23:21.04 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:23.57 | JayPee | ooh |
| 23:24.06 | JayPee | I like groups that give you your money's worth |
| 23:24.12 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:24.23 | scanlime | really nice venue too- by far the fanciest place I've seen a concert |
| 23:24.29 | scanlime | great sound |
| 23:24.36 | scanlime | bathroom attendants always creep me out though |
| 23:24.46 | ChipX86 | eww |
| 23:25.28 | JayPee | hah |
| 23:25.29 | scanlime | flans even commented on the venue Friday.. said he felt like he was dressed better just standing next to the bar |
| 23:25.38 | JayPee | it's like they're watching. |
| 23:26.04 | scanlime | indeed |
| 23:26.20 | scanlime | I still remember the first experience I had with a bathroom attendant |
| 23:26.29 | scanlime | I was kinda little, in a Planet Hollywood somewhere |
| 23:26.42 | scanlime | I remember rushing out of the bathroom to tell my mom about the weird guy in there handing out towels |
| 23:27.01 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 23:27.38 | JayPee | hahah |
| 23:28.37 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9225 10fidtool/ (_fidtool.c test.py): This file format makes my head hurt. Appending should work, as long as you don't cross an L0 page boundary. Changed the semantics of the reverse-header on an L1 page just a bit, to make it quicker to encode |
| 23:33.51 | JayPee | hrm. |
| 23:33.58 | JayPee | naim doesn't look like it supports multiply logged in names |
| 23:34.00 | JayPee | this is interesting |
| 23:40.00 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 23:40.23 | ChipX86 | I still wonder if I should offer some ability for multiple pieces of code in the same instance to have their own registrations with galago |
| 23:40.29 | ChipX86 | but that gets tricky fast |
| 23:42.26 | numist | hrm... |
| 23:42.26 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2270 10libgalago/ (16 files in 3 dirs): Remove the galago_core_* prefixes. All galago_core_* functions are now galago_* functions. This cleans up a bit, and is nice because the core object is supposed to mainly be hidden. |
| 23:42.40 | ChipX86 | all these songs about rain in my playlist... sure wish it was raining right now |
| 23:43.02 | JayPee | now naim doesn't want to work at all |
| 23:43.05 | JayPee | awesome |
| 23:43.08 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 23:45.35 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2271 10galago-daemon/ (20 files in 4 dirs): galago_core_* -> galago_* |
| 23:47.02 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2272 10libgalago-gtk/ (10 files in 2 dirs): galago_core_* -> galago_* |
| 23:47.26 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2273 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog src/main.c): galago_core_* -> galago_* |
| 23:47.49 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2274 10gaim-galago/ (ChangeLog src/gaim-galago.c): galago_core_* -> galago_* |
| 23:49.33 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:49.40 | purple_cow | there's no notification-daemon .pc file, is there |
| 23:49.45 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 23:51.31 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2275 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.defs src/galago.override): galago_core_* -> galago_* |
| 23:52.52 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2276 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.defs): Fix the defs file so that GalagoPerson.get_account and GalagoPresence.compare are able to be generated. |
| 23:53.18 | purple_cow | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=60413451&size=o |
| 23:53.21 | purple_cow | that's awesome |
| 23:53.37 | ChipX86 | yep :) |
| 23:55.49 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2277 10libgalago/libgalago/galago-core.c: Missed some functions. Fix them. |
| 23:56.37 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:56.38 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 23:56.59 | purple_cow | i'm astounded at now nice it makes desktop development |
| 23:57.04 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:58.14 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2278 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-core.c): Get rid of this debug statement. |
| 23:58.33 | ChipX86 | man, the python bindings just rock |
| 23:59.55 | scanlime | yay |
