| 00:00.06 | ChipX86 | woops, almost flashed with an image that wasn't finished downloading |
| 00:00.07 | dooky | numist: I'll bring it in tomorrow |
| 00:00.11 | dooky | along with Dan's PSU |
| 00:00.11 | numist | cool |
| 00:00.11 | dooky | haha |
| 00:00.13 | numist | I'll be here |
| 00:00.21 | numist | yeah you better bring his psu in or he'll kill you |
| 00:00.30 | dooky | numist: if I die, have me pressed into a diamond |
| 00:00.33 | dooky | lol |
| 00:01.18 | dooky | numist: oh I have a router we can mess with |
| 00:01.34 | dooky | linksys befsr41, found it in my closet yesterday, along with that pda |
| 00:01.39 | numist | sweet |
| 00:01.40 | dooky | old skool |
| 00:01.46 | numist | I dont think that is useful though |
| 00:01.55 | dooky | numist: I actually think openwrt works on it |
| 00:01.56 | kergoth | bleh, i should fix oe to properly /target/ x86_64. it doesnt know how to deal with lib vs lib64 wrt packaging and staging yet |
| 00:01.58 | dooky | may be mistaken |
| 00:02.43 | kergoth | <ben> How do you properly negate `improved'? |
| 00:02.43 | kergoth | <rici> "bought by microsoft" |
| 00:02.46 | darth_mall | bad OE! go to your room! |
| 00:02.47 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 00:02.48 | ChipX86 | can't flash this |
| 00:02.59 | ChipX86 | could earlier |
| 00:03.00 | ChipX86 | can't now |
| 00:03.42 | numist | ouch |
| 00:03.50 | dooky | already broke it |
| 00:04.08 | ChipX86 | nah still works |
| 00:04.09 | numist | now he's going to have problems with their tech support, just watch |
| 00:04.13 | ChipX86 | I think this isn't the right kind of image format |
| 00:04.20 | dooky | numist: so what will we write |
| 00:04.37 | dooky | I'm like "..." ! |
| 00:04.44 | numist | dooky: I dont particularly care, I just want it to run an ssh of some sort and a decent browser on top of the palm suite |
| 00:05.01 | numist | so, need to find a wireless thingie |
| 00:05.01 | dooky | numist: not for the palm |
| 00:05.02 | dooky | lol |
| 00:05.05 | numist | oh |
| 00:05.11 | dooky | just for pure l33t3ry |
| 00:05.11 | numist | gtkpimm |
| 00:05.18 | dooky | I'll start tonight. |
| 00:05.19 | numist | but you and dan are doing that, right? |
| 00:05.24 | dooky | neg. |
| 00:05.35 | numist | you think I should hook procuro into CIA? might not be a good idea :/ |
| 00:05.41 | dooky | not a good idea |
| 00:05.43 | numist | I thought you guys were going to |
| 00:05.49 | dooky | oh, by the way |
| 00:05.52 | dooky | ChipX86: |
| 00:06.15 | dooky | oh, by the way |
| 00:06.17 | dooky | scanlime: |
| 00:06.25 | dooky | darth_mall: I prefer !pants |
| 00:06.37 | darth_mall | I have bang pants too |
| 00:06.38 | file[laptop] | tacos! |
| 00:06.43 | numist | darth_mall: hahahaha |
| 00:06.45 | dooky | darth_mall: nice |
| 00:07.07 | dooky | it's my mom's birthday, should I go home early? |
| 00:07.14 | numist | you always go home early |
| 00:07.23 | dooky | numist: dude I have school |
| 00:07.25 | dooky | so |
| 00:07.28 | dooky | must work min hours :P |
| 00:07.37 | darth_mall | numist is right |
| 00:07.43 | darth_mall | you should always go home early |
| 00:07.49 | numist | dooky: tell me that again when I'm in school and still working this much |
| 00:07.54 | numist | darth_mall: .... |
| 00:07.57 | dooky | numist: + and failing |
| 00:08.05 | numist | I'm very good at that |
| 00:08.40 | purple_cow | http://www.drinkingbirds.com/ |
| 00:09.02 | numist | darth_mall: bet you I'm better at it |
| 00:09.50 | ChipX86 | yeah so it's not flashing because this isn't a jffs2 image |
| 00:14.44 | ChipX86 | ah-ha |
| 00:14.45 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:14.51 | ChipX86 | must specify a different flag for this image format |
| 00:14.52 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 00:14.59 | numist | :) |
| 00:15.11 | ChipX86 | flashing is easy |
| 00:15.11 | kergoth | i think there's a maemo channel, they may have info on flashing those |
| 00:15.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:15.19 | ChipX86 | shut off, run tool, turn on, watch it flash, use it |
| 00:15.25 | ChipX86 | eep! |
| 00:15.30 | numist | oops, wrong version |
| 00:15.30 | ChipX86 | not with my eyes watching! |
| 00:15.46 | numist | oh right, have to turn you off first |
| 00:16.15 | ChipX86 | hah, R&D mode |
| 00:16.25 | ChipX86 | boot screen over the Nokia text |
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| 00:19.45 | ChipX86 | I've got to say, this thing is sexy\ |
| 00:19.55 | ChipX86 | very sexy\ (the "\" makes it more sexy) |
| 00:20.08 | file[laptop] | neat |
| 00:20.16 | numist | it does, I agree |
| 00:20.22 | ChipX86 | streaming music from it while I use it |
| 00:20.25 | numist | ChipX86: when I visit, if you're around, I have to touch it |
| 00:20.30 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:20.36 | numist | wow, integrated wifi? |
| 00:20.39 | numist | I have to have one |
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| 00:21.23 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 00:21.43 | file[laptop] | ah so it does have a touchscreen... sexy |
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| 00:21.59 | file[laptop] | it reminds me of a global from Earth: Final Conflict |
| 00:26.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9181 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/main-window.c: fix some warnings |
| 00:30.36 | scanlime | dooky: ? |
| 00:30.48 | dooky | scanlime: you and numist talked about a piece of software we have at our company |
| 00:30.56 | scanlime | briefly... |
| 00:31.11 | numist | he's the one writing the client program |
| 00:31.15 | dooky | well he told me about it, I was just letting you know I was the author if you have any questions |
| 00:31.18 | numist | bug him if you want something specific in the API |
| 00:31.28 | scanlime | I still don't know what it does, or why I'd want it |
| 00:31.50 | dooky | Oh, I thought you'd been more filled in than this |
| 00:32.07 | numist | I thought so too |
| 00:32.12 | numist | scanlime's been busy though |
| 00:32.41 | scanlime | I mean, I guess it monitors stuff right? disk space and system load and all that? |
| 00:32.53 | dooky | well technically it can monitor anything |
| 00:32.56 | dooky | that you write a probe for |
| 00:33.01 | scanlime | right.. |
| 00:33.22 | scanlime | so is this client a collection of prepackaged probes? |
| 00:33.45 | numist | and an API so you can add your own for things that it doesnt monitor |
| 00:33.52 | numist | like therms |
| 00:34.02 | scanlime | http://flapjack.navi.cx/monitor/ <-- I already have that :P |
| 00:34.08 | numist | I know I know |
| 00:34.23 | numist | could be useful for flapjack, in case disk gets full again and stuff |
| 00:34.28 | numist | only one email instead of a few hunderd :P |
| 00:34.48 | scanlime | no, 101 emails instead of 100 ;) |
| 00:34.56 | file[laptop] | half of my room almost had a power failure |
| 00:35.05 | scanlime | anyway... monitoring tools are great, and I've had several of them suggested at me |
| 00:35.09 | scanlime | but that won't solve the problem |
| 00:35.11 | numist | scanlime: no, you set it to warn you *before* the disk fills all the way :P |
| 00:35.17 | scanlime | this crazy sparse skiplist buffer thing will ;) |
| 00:35.26 | numist | true, but they can help you mitigate effects before its fixed.. in the future and stuff |
| 00:36.05 | ChipX86 | battery's almost dead :/ |
| 00:36.17 | numist | already? |
| 00:36.24 | ChipX86 | it wasn't a full charge |
| 00:36.46 | numist | I thought you were supposed to charge them before you used them |
| 00:36.47 | ChipX86 | wow, tomorrow's Friday already |
| 00:36.49 | numist | yeah |
| 00:36.56 | ChipX86 | yeah probably should :) |
| 00:37.01 | numist | hehe |
| 00:37.12 | ChipX86 | going to get an adapter |
| 00:37.14 | ChipX86 | soonish |
| 00:37.37 | ChipX86 | I keep wanting to think that just maybe I have one laying around somewhere, but there's no point in time when I would have used one |
| 00:39.26 | scanlime | ok |
| 00:39.35 | scanlime | 2000 lines is too much for one python file |
| 00:39.36 | scanlime | way too much |
| 00:40.07 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:41.11 | scanlime | mostly 'cuz I'm about to try parsing bluetooth HCI in python |
| 00:41.17 | scanlime | that alone will probably take 3000 lines of crap |
| 00:42.09 | numist | if it takes more than 100 lines in python.... |
| 00:42.23 | scanlime | have you *seen* bluetooth? |
| 00:42.41 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9182 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (3 files): solid & transparent background prefs work now, just gotta do image |
| 00:42.45 | scanlime | there's a reason your little $10 bluetooth dongle has several megabytes of firmware |
| 00:43.02 | numist | I'm just giving you hell, I know the spec is awful |
| 00:47.07 | darth_mall | it's a good thing all these objects have an equals method and an isEqualTo method |
| 00:48.39 | numist | how do you tell if they aren't equal then? |
| 00:49.04 | scanlime | x.isEqualTo(y).negate() |
| 00:49.08 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:49.09 | numist | ahh, thats it |
| 00:49.19 | scanlime | infix notation is for losers, obviously |
| 00:49.20 | numist | clever |
| 00:49.28 | darth_mall | scanlime: infix? |
| 00:49.56 | scanlime | "a + b" is infix |
| 00:50.02 | darth_mall | ah |
| 00:50.07 | scanlime | forth would do "a b +", java would do "a.plus(b)" :P |
| 00:50.15 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:50.19 | darth_mall | a.plus(b) |
| 00:50.33 | darth_mall | it's hilariously true and painful at the same time |
| 00:55.26 | scanlime | 2.addTo(2).isEqualTo(4) |
| 00:55.32 | darth_mall | ehe |
| 00:55.53 | scanlime | see, quality code like that just makes "2+2 == 4" look bad |
| 00:56.01 | purple_cow | scanlime: that doesn't work, since 2 and 4 are primitives |
| 00:56.15 | purple_cow | probably would need at least Integer(2).addTo(2).isEqualTo(4) |
| 00:56.24 | scanlime | oh, right.. java has that boneheaded "I'm a real OO language (but not really)" problem |
| 01:00.26 | ChipX86 | this needs frozen bubble |
| 01:00.32 | ChipX86 | and gweled |
| 01:00.55 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9183 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/textgui.c: background images |
| 01:01.38 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I wish I had this yesterday, so I could have shown the guy when he didn't know what the 770 was |
| 01:01.49 | scanlime | yeah |
| 01:02.07 | scanlime | I could have pulled out my phone and said "It's like this, but smaller!" |
| 01:02.37 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 01:02.47 | ChipX86 | this is actually quite a bit bigger than your phone |
| 01:02.59 | scanlime | yeah yeah, but that's hard to believe |
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| 01:04.34 | ChipX86 | mmmmmm |
| 01:04.37 | ChipX86 | a sudoku program |
| 01:05.12 | ChipX86 | ScummVM |
| 01:05.25 | scanlime | yay |
| 01:05.28 | ChipX86 | so I guess I get to write Tickypip all over again :) |
| 01:05.32 | ChipX86 | except I don't get to use cairo |
| 01:06.19 | purple_cow | haha |
| 01:09.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9184 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (preferences-page-effects.c preferences-page-effects.h): throw a preview widget on the background image file chooser |
| 01:10.46 | ChipX86 | ok, going to head to Frys soon. What do I have to know for the power adapters? If I find an adapater, it should Just Work, right? |
| 01:11.03 | scanlime | well, look at your AC adaptor and see if it's wide voltage range |
| 01:11.16 | scanlime | hopefully it will say something like "110-240V AC, 50-60 Hz" |
| 01:11.34 | scanlime | if that's the case, you just want anything that will let you physically plug it into your outlets |
| 01:11.43 | ChipX86 | 100-240V AC, 50-60Hz/180mA |
| 01:11.44 | scanlime | you can find travel kits that just have plug adaptors with no circuitry inside |
| 01:11.56 | scanlime | or you might even be able to find a cord that fits your adaptor |
| 01:12.15 | scanlime | you don't want a travel adaptor that actually has a transformer in it |
| 01:12.35 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 01:12.45 | ChipX86 | so just a passthru adapter? |
| 01:12.55 | scanlime | right |
| 01:12.58 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 01:13.27 | ChipX86 | I want to try this thing with your phone at some point :) |
| 01:13.33 | scanlime | with? |
| 01:13.41 | scanlime | what does it do that's phone-compatible? |
| 01:13.58 | ChipX86 | addressbook sync and file management and internet apparently |
| 01:14.04 | scanlime | that's cute |
| 01:14.12 | scanlime | bluetooth I assume? |
| 01:14.15 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 01:14.19 | scanlime | handy |
| 01:14.25 | ChipX86 | also has 802.11b. Not sure if it has a or g |
| 01:14.32 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 01:14.35 | scanlime | and perry has a cubicle even more full of bluetooth garbage |
| 01:14.46 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9185 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences-page-effects.c: last bit of background prefs poop |
| 01:16.10 | kergoth | yay, gf flies in tomorrow, gets here at 3:30pm :) |
| 01:17.25 | numist | woo |
| 01:22.19 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 01:22.32 | kergoth | long distance relationships suck ass |
| 01:22.33 | kergoth | :\ |
| 01:24.54 | numist | yes |
| 01:25.00 | numist | but if the person is worth it... |
| 01:30.29 | kergoth | yep. |
| 01:30.50 | kergoth | either she's moving here or we're both moving elsewhere within 3-4 months, most likely |
| 01:30.57 | kergoth | finally |
| 01:31.05 | numist | great |
| 01:31.25 | numist | in about 9 months I might have the same thing with carrie.. I really hope it works out |
| 01:34.21 | kergoth | nice :) good luck |
| 01:34.52 | kergoth | relationships are difficult in the best of circumstances :\ |
| 01:35.54 | numist | its worth it |
| 01:36.45 | kergoth | indeed. |
| 01:44.52 | numist | Windows - 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
| 01:45.58 | purple_cow | yay |
| 01:46.33 | numist | :) |
| 01:47.59 | file | relationships give me a headache |
| 02:00.10 | numist | aw |
| 02:02.07 | darth_mall | it's a good thing I'm not learning anything in Software Engineering methods |
| 02:02.57 | darth_mall | Amer had us implement the iterator pattern by exposing the ListIterator for a LinkedList in a class that contained a LinkedList |
| 02:05.17 | purple_cow | it smells like yeasty bread in here :) |
| 02:08.48 | darth_mall | if I were yeast, would you bake bread with me? |
| 02:09.26 | purple_cow | darth_mall: depends |
| 02:09.32 | purple_cow | might make beer! |
| 02:09.33 | purple_cow | or pruno! |
| 02:09.39 | kergoth | mm, beer |
| 02:09.41 | darth_mall | mmm... beer |
| 02:09.47 | kergoth | :) |
| 02:09.50 | darth_mall | maybe I'll drink that bomber I have at home |
| 02:10.05 | purple_cow | eww... pruno |
| 02:10.12 | kergoth | i need to check out some of the ones nullpuppy has recommended |
| 02:10.38 | purple_cow | "aside from the sickening orange color, flecks of mold floating on top, and smell you cant wash off, the worst part is the taste" |
| 02:10.59 | kergoth | .. |
| 02:11.05 | gonkulator | heh |
| 02:12.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9186 10fyre/ltmain.sh: not sure this should be in svn, but update it anyways |
| 02:13.59 | purple_cow | ``For lack of a better metaphor, pruno tastes like a bile flavored wine cooler. It tastes so bad, in fact, that it could very well be poisonous or psychedelic, which might explain the violence it induces in prisoners.'' |
| 02:17.07 | Sophie197 | hey everyone!!! |
| 02:17.11 | gonkulator | hey Sophie197 |
| 02:17.12 | file[laptop] | Sophie!!! |
| 02:17.18 | file[laptop] | gonkulator!!! |
| 02:17.24 | gonkulator | file[laptop]!!! |
| 02:17.32 | Sophie197 | gonkulator: I got your beautiful rosary |
| 02:17.37 | Sophie197 | thank you!! |
| 02:17.41 | dooky | numist: ping |
| 02:17.43 | Sophie197 | I was SO happy. |
| 02:17.45 | gonkulator | Sophie197: I'm glad you like it :) |
| 02:17.52 | numist | dooky: pawng |
| 02:17.56 | darth_mall | eww ketchup |
| 02:17.59 | dooky | numist: I already wrote a ton of code |
| 02:18.00 | dooky | for this |
| 02:18.01 | dooky | :O |
| 02:18.06 | gonkulator | Sophie197: Miles didn't know your favorite color, so he guessed |
| 02:18.07 | Sophie197 | I wore it around and stuff, even though it's not really a necklace |
| 02:18.08 | numist | for what.. logtagger or unixmos? |
| 02:18.12 | numist | or netware |
| 02:18.13 | dooky | gtkpimm |
| 02:18.15 | numist | ah |
| 02:18.19 | dooky | also for all of those |
| 02:18.19 | numist | really? you crazy bastard |
| 02:18.20 | dooky | lol |
| 02:18.21 | Sophie197 | but then I wore something it wouldn't have matched with |
| 02:18.24 | dooky | numist: over 300 lines |
| 02:18.27 | numist | do you have socket stuff set up? |
| 02:18.29 | Sophie197 | so then I had to take it off |
| 02:18.31 | gonkulator | Sophie197: I don't mind if you wear it |
| 02:18.41 | dooky | numist: no, writing data structures and methods |
| 02:18.48 | numist | dooky: commit it to a new portion of the svn repos and tell me if it works, Ive been playing with hooks |
| 02:18.49 | Sophie197 | and thanks for the letter |
| 02:19.01 | Sophie197 | it got kinda wet in the hurricane |
| 02:19.02 | dooky | numist: new portion, i.e. not in the procuro part? |
| 02:19.12 | Sophie197 | because the door to the mailbox blew open |
| 02:19.12 | gonkulator | Sophie197: the rosary won't be damaged by water! |
| 02:19.14 | numist | dooky: no, as in a new top-level dir |
| 02:19.21 | dooky | ah, ok |
| 02:19.22 | dooky | in a bit. |
| 02:19.27 | Sophie197 | I know, I had to be very careful with the letter though |
| 02:19.30 | numist | Id tell you to put it in misc, but this can be argued as procuro ip |
| 02:19.32 | gonkulator | that rosary could go through the laundry and be fine |
| 02:19.38 | gonkulator | ah |
| 02:20.01 | Sophie197 | but I was able to read it after I peeled it apart and it dried a bit |
| 02:20.21 | Sophie197 | isn't that wild? your letter was in a hurricane. |
| 02:20.29 | Sophie197 | I think that's wild. |
| 02:20.40 | gonkulator | snickers even |
| 02:21.22 | dooky | brb, pikking up mom's cake |
| 02:21.24 | dooky | s/kk/ck/ |
| 02:21.26 | darth_mall | sneak it in for communion |
| 02:21.33 | darth_mall | hehehehehehehe |
| 02:21.37 | Sophie197 | man, I need a message |
| 02:21.41 | gonkulator | if pruno != wine, its not gonna work |
| 02:21.46 | Sophie197 | I'm so frickan tight |
| 02:21.56 | Sophie197 | in the shouldery area |
| 02:22.06 | kergoth | bad mind, bad! |
| 02:22.42 | Sophie197 | rub on mah shoulders, k |
| 02:22.45 | purple_cow | gonkulator: it's a kind of wine |
| 02:22.52 | Sophie197 | can I call you k for short? |
| 02:23.05 | gonkulator | purple_cow: wine from just grapes? |
| 02:23.09 | purple_cow | gonkulator: no |
| 02:23.19 | gonkulator | yeah, than it is a 'no work' situation |
| 02:23.25 | purple_cow | oranges, a bowl of fruit cocktail, lots of sugar cubes, and natural yeasts |
| 02:23.31 | Sophie197 | mmm wine. |
| 02:23.38 | gonkulator | yeah, that is definately invalid matter |
| 02:23.53 | gonkulator | but we could serve that at a lunch situation and see what happens |
| 02:24.18 | gonkulator | and... that sounds pretty gross |
| 02:25.01 | laodamas | ~stab overhead |
| 02:25.08 | purple_cow | laodamas: :( |
| 02:25.15 | darth_mall | purple_cow: don't forget ketchup |
| 02:25.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: oh, right |
| 02:25.59 | laodamas | s/me/him |
| 02:27.01 | laodamas | Your gov't contracted tax dollars at work :P |
| 02:27.40 | gonkulator | later Sophie197, file[laptop], purple_cow, laodamas, darth_mall |
| 02:27.58 | file[laptop] | byebye |
| 02:31.59 | dooky | numist: are you still at the office? |
| 02:32.12 | numist | not for long.. carriecall |
| 02:32.13 | numist | bye! |
| 02:33.47 | dooky | numist: o, was wondering if you could make plone public |
| 02:41.57 | dooky | purple_cow: whatcha making? |
| 02:46.43 | purple_cow | dooky: bread |
| 02:47.12 | numist | dooky: no, not until we have security set up |
| 02:48.09 | dooky | numist: :( |
| 02:48.53 | dooky | purple_cow: I've found olive oil to be a good substitute for butter in many things |
| 02:48.57 | dooky | when I'm cooking |
| 02:49.01 | dooky | it tastes alot better, thats for damn sure |
| 02:49.25 | purple_cow | yep |
| 02:49.43 | dooky | I think my shining example of this was some craft macaroni and sheese |
| 02:49.48 | dooky | me and a buddy made two boxes |
| 02:49.53 | dooky | and discovered we had no margerine |
| 02:49.55 | dooky | so put in olive oil |
| 02:50.04 | dooky | I think it was the best craft mac+cheese I ever ate |
| 02:50.13 | purple_cow | haha |
| 02:51.17 | numist | but... the best kraft dinner is still kraft dinner |
| 02:52.22 | file[laptop] | best artificial cheese evar! |
| 02:54.14 | file[laptop] | yay it's Veight |
| 02:54.25 | Veight | hehe im wanted :) |
| 02:54.32 | file[laptop] | how are you? |
| 02:56.17 | Veight | good |
| 02:56.23 | file[laptop] | most excellent. |
| 02:58.35 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 02:58.45 | dooky | 'tis ok |
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| 03:59.51 | kergoth | bleh |
| 03:59.54 | darth_mall | sure |
| 04:00.56 | purple_cow | it's mauve and dangerous! |
| 04:08.07 | lurgy | yay mauve |
| 04:12.19 | purple_cow | "who looks at a screwdriver and thinks 'ooh, this could be made more sonic'?" |
| 04:15.48 | purple_cow | go ubuntu |
| 04:15.59 | purple_cow | it only installs gcc 4, but the kernel is built with 3.4 |
| 04:16.04 | ChipX86 | apt-get install gcc-3.4 |
| 04:16.12 | ChipX86 | latest ws5.5 will auto-detect gcc-3.4 |
| 04:20.28 | purple_cow | yeah, did that |
| 04:24.04 | kergoth | had to fix a quirk in the lua 5.1 beta buildsystem to get it building with 4.0 |
| 04:24.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:24.25 | purple_cow | huh |
| 04:24.35 | purple_cow | ChipX86: what do i install to get kernel headers? |
| 04:24.59 | ChipX86 | I think linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 04:50.53 | purple_cow | yay, finally got the tools installed :P |
| 04:54.53 | darth_mall | huh... PLUS let me into that Piano class |
| 04:55.01 | purple_cow | what piano class? |
| 04:55.36 | darth_mall | Piano Class II |
| 04:55.41 | darth_mall | it's an EMUS class |
| 04:55.57 | darth_mall | I'd probably better head by the music school tomorrow and just verify that it's ok I'm in that |
| 04:56.04 | darth_mall | especially since I never took Piano I |
| 04:56.15 | darth_mall | but I don't really need to be taught how to read music... |
| 04:56.54 | darth_mall | now to find a humanities class to fulfill my last requirement |
| 05:03.04 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9187 10xchat-gnome/buildsystem.diff: update for latest cvs |
| 05:03.14 | darth_mall | hrm... can't decide what I want to take for this humanities requirement |
| 05:05.45 | purple_cow | LING 1000! ;) |
| 05:07.35 | darth_mall | has to be upper division |
| 05:07.46 | darth_mall | what is LING 1000? sanskrit? |
| 05:08.57 | darth_mall | oh my god I hate PLUS |
| 05:10.42 | purple_cow | "language in US society" |
| 05:13.20 | purple_cow | aww, no libsexy in ubuntu |
| 05:15.47 | laodamas | "U.S. Patent Office Publishes the First Patent Application to Claim a Fictional Storyline" |
| 05:17.40 | laodamas | Who feels like torching the USPTO if this patent is granted? |
| 05:23.51 | darth_mall | laodamas: who is applying? (if you say George Lucas I'm going to murder someone) |
| 05:25.37 | laodamas | A Mr. Andrew Knight, some MIT and Georgetown Law jerkwad |
| 05:26.01 | numist | too bad it isnt Michael Knight |
| 05:26.06 | numist | man I miss that show >_< |
| 05:27.02 | darth_mall | haha |
| 05:35.58 | darth_mall | We’re here to learn about AI methods, not to struggle over the subtleties of syntax in an open source language which will have evolved into a whole different monster in another few years, perhaps with advanced integrated developer environments, etc. |
| 05:36.02 | darth_mall | ^ I love it |
| 05:38.07 | purple_cow | i like monsters |
| 05:38.21 | darth_mall | I like how IDEs are a feature of the language |
| 05:38.45 | laodamas | pretty soon people will think that IDEs ARE programming languages |
| 05:39.02 | darth_mall | s/people/my classmates/ |
| 05:39.09 | darth_mall | can't really speak for the rest of the world, I suppose |
| 05:43.01 | purple_cow | darth_mall: that's been a problem for a good 10 years |
| 05:44.08 | darth_mall | that makes me sad |
| 05:44.33 | darth_mall | normally I wouldn't bother fighting these battles with these kids over e-mail, but tonight I'm feeling a bit feisty |
| 05:49.07 | laodamas | s/his/he is/ |
| 05:49.11 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 05:49.15 | purple_cow | sucker |
| 05:49.19 | laodamas | s/his/that he is/ |
| 05:50.13 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 05:50.18 | purple_cow | it is starting to smell awesome in here |
| 05:52.16 | purple_cow | lurgy: still up for the thingy? |
| 05:52.41 | laodamas | Unfortunately I need to extend a simulator that is written in ada |
| 05:53.42 | laodamas | 120,000 lines of it |
| 05:54.44 | lurgy | hmm! |
| 05:54.51 | lurgy | that took rather longer than i planned |
| 05:54.57 | lurgy | i don't think i'd last through the whole thing |
| 05:57.26 | lurgy | =/ |
| 05:57.34 | lurgy | plus my tire ended up being pretty flat the whole way |
| 05:57.43 | lurgy | i didn't notice until being halfway there for some reason |
| 05:57.43 | laodamas | or rather, I need to add hundreds of j2ee hooks within the 120kloc simulator ada codebase 8-O |
| 05:58.55 | lurgy | so it was a much harder mile or two than it strictly needed to be |
| 06:00.20 | purple_cow | lurgy: it's only a couple hours :P |
| 06:04.25 | lurgy | a couple and a half :P |
| 06:04.48 | lurgy | and i'm all wobbly and can't walk straight since i hadn't biked in months |
| 06:04.55 | purple_cow | :( |
| 06:04.56 | purple_cow | eat something |
| 06:17.59 | purple_cow | welp, it's a little overdone, but it smells great :D |
| 06:20.07 | lurgy | yep |
| 06:22.11 | lurgy | =[ |
| 06:22.21 | lurgy | sleeping? |
| 06:24.36 | purple_cow | too early |
| 06:24.46 | lurgy | hmm |
| 06:24.59 | purple_cow | plus i have laundry doing its thing |
| 06:25.56 | lurgy | you could download all of the seasons of friends and learn to love a new show! :P |
| 06:30.13 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:30.18 | lurgy | it's always possible |
| 06:30.19 | lurgy | who knows |
| 06:31.11 | lurgy | whelp... |
| 06:31.21 | lurgy | i gotta get some sleep cuz now i'm all tuckered out :( |
| 06:31.30 | lurgy | but we'll watch that movie soon |
| 06:43.50 | darth_mall | bah |
| 06:43.54 | darth_mall | these people are idiots |
| 06:43.59 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 06:46.57 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:48.06 | purple_cow | mmmmmMMMmm |
| 07:08.28 | numist | yay fresh bread |
| 07:08.30 | numist | so good |
| 07:08.36 | purple_cow | yep |
| 07:08.40 | purple_cow | i've eaten half the loaf already :P |
| 07:09.08 | purple_cow | err, i meant a quarter |
| 07:09.09 | purple_cow | but still |
| 07:09.16 | purple_cow | it's pretty heavy :) |
| 07:10.14 | darth_mall | man I love this show |
| 07:10.20 | darth_mall | just when you think it can't possibly get any weirder... |
| 07:10.34 | purple_cow | what episode are you on? |
| 07:10.40 | darth_mall | just finished 7, I think |
| 07:10.45 | darth_mall | MHz |
| 07:11.17 | purple_cow | was that the one with the math? |
| 07:11.44 | darth_mall | that's the one where the kid they arrested was killed in his cell by shounen bat |
| 07:11.54 | darth_mall | there was some math again, but no more than usual |
| 07:11.54 | purple_cow | ahhh |
| 07:12.08 | darth_mall | just the old man's sidewalk scribbling |
| 07:12.22 | purple_cow | ooh, next is cheerful family planning |
| 07:13.19 | purple_cow | i think it's about episode 10 where it *really* gets weird |
| 07:13.39 | ChipX86 | the downside of owning a 770 right now is that there's almost no software for it |
| 07:14.38 | numist | ChipX86: thats what you're supposed to fix :) |
| 07:15.48 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 07:16.25 | ChipX86 | lots of bad reviews of the 770 |
| 07:16.45 | ChipX86 | early reviews though |
| 07:17.00 | ChipX86 | knowing the future plans for the 770, I think it has somewhat of a chance, but who knows |
| 07:19.59 | numist | :( |
| 07:20.03 | ChipX86 | I wonder how badly bzflag would run on it |
| 07:20.33 | purple_cow | does it even have an FPU? |
| 07:20.42 | ChipX86 | nope :( |
| 07:20.48 | ChipX86 | which makes cairo very problematic |
| 07:20.58 | ChipX86 | why don't they ever include an FPU... |
| 07:21.24 | purple_cow | because a lot of embedded devices don't need them? |
| 07:22.02 | purple_cow | and they suck power? |
| 07:22.10 | ChipX86 | yeah.. |
| 07:23.06 | ChipX86 | hmm, I could start the first 770 software site |
| 07:23.19 | numist | you should do it |
| 07:23.22 | ChipX86 | but then I'd have to maintain i |
| 07:23.24 | ChipX86 | er, it |
| 07:23.27 | numist | true... |
| 07:23.34 | numist | wiki-style? |
| 07:23.38 | purple_cow | teehee, i love this show |
| 07:23.43 | purple_cow | it's so simple and good |
| 07:24.33 | hardwire | why you so purple? |
| 07:27.39 | darth_mall | wow... so Firefox's searching isn't working for me all of a sudden |
| 07:30.15 | hardwire | F.. not O |
| 07:31.40 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2242 10galago-daemon/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Use galago_service_create_account instead of galago_account_new. |
| 07:33.01 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2243 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Fix the version number. Version numbers don't usually have commas. |
| 07:33.29 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2244 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog src/main.c): Use galago_service_create_account instead of galago_account_new. |
| 07:35.07 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2245 10gaim-galago/ (ChangeLog src/gaim-galago.c): Use galago_service_create_account instead of galago_account_new. |
| 07:36.26 | darth_mall | hahahahaha |
| 07:36.29 | darth_mall | I am the a2ps master |
| 07:47.32 | CIA-9 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2246 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.defs): |
| 07:47.33 | CIA-9 | galago: - Define ServiceFlags as type flags rather than enum. |
| 07:47.33 | CIA-9 | galago: - Remove support for the Account constructor, and add GalagoService.create_account. |
| 07:47.33 | CIA-9 | galago: - Made presence-feed.py actually work without crashing. |
| 07:54.39 | numist | I hereby proclaim that stone pale ale is not crap beer |
| 07:55.43 | purple_cow | who makes that? |
| 07:56.26 | numist | stone |
| 07:56.42 | numist | its a medium size brewery from north county san diego |
| 08:01.30 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 08:01.36 | ChipX86 | how best to answer that question... |
| 08:02.54 | purple_cow | ChipX86: "they gived it to me, 'cuz i rock" |
| 08:02.58 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:03.06 | ChipX86 | I don't want to say "I got it free!" |
| 08:03.10 | ChipX86 | since everyone else has to pay |
| 08:03.25 | purple_cow | it's nokia's decision |
| 08:03.31 | darth_mall | ChipX86: answer what question? |
| 08:03.42 | purple_cow | darth_mall: someone asking how he got his 770 |
| 08:03.45 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: "How did you get the 770 already? They're not selling them in the US yet" |
| 08:03.52 | darth_mall | ah |
| 08:03.58 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:04.14 | darth_mall | or you can make up a story about mugging a japanese tourist |
| 08:04.24 | darth_mall | and on that note, I go to sleep |
| 08:04.26 | rioter | i have 2 friends that work for nokia |
| 08:04.33 | rioter | they always have fancy new phones before they are released |
| 08:04.35 | rioter | it makes me sad |
| 08:04.50 | rioter | they have had a 770 for a while, and wont let me steal it |
| 08:05.02 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 08:05.04 | ChipX86 | it's neat |
| 08:05.14 | ChipX86 | there's almost no software for it though, as expected |
| 08:05.16 | rioter | yeah its fun |
| 08:05.51 | purple_cow | ohhhh right, laundry |
| 08:05.58 | ChipX86 | I'm going to try to get the second generation model |
| 08:06.22 | ChipX86 | also, I'm going to get ice cream |
| 08:14.54 | purple_cow | hmm! |
| 08:15.23 | purple_cow | i wonder what you use to measure the size of breadbaskets |
| 08:16.54 | numist | a loaf of bread? |
| 08:19.42 | scanlime | who says you need an FPU for cairo? |
| 08:19.44 | scanlime | ARM is super-extra-fast at fixed point |
| 08:20.09 | ChipX86 | cairo isn't yet optimized in that way |
| 08:20.19 | ChipX86 | how was the concert |
| 08:20.20 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 08:20.22 | scanlime | if someone wrote a cairo backend optimized for software rendering on ARM, it could scream |
| 08:20.24 | scanlime | awesome! |
| 08:20.43 | scanlime | as expected, completely different set lists aside from a couple songs they'd get lynched for not playing |
| 08:22.29 | numist | tmbg? |
| 08:22.36 | scanlime | yes |
| 08:23.02 | numist | I was wondering what bee you had in your bonnet today :) |
| 08:23.07 | numist | good stuff |
| 08:23.18 | ChipX86 | there's an american-made "anime" about a group of delivery boys with super powers and some evil person trying to prevent them from delivering packages |
| 08:23.20 | purple_cow | they have such an enormous repertoire that i think they'd go crazy playing the same set through an entire tour |
| 08:24.11 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 08:24.25 | purple_cow | i just amazed my american indian music teacher with a bjork track :) |
| 08:24.46 | purple_cow | today he played us some recordings of inuit game-songs, and during the discussion, he said "i'm surprised they haven't been sampled" |
| 08:24.55 | purple_cow | i replied "have you heard bjork's 'medulla'?" |
| 08:24.59 | purple_cow | :) |
| 08:25.14 | scanlime | oh, and corn mo was awesome tonight |
| 08:25.27 | purple_cow | he was back again? |
| 08:25.30 | scanlime | this was a great venue- much fancier than anywhere else I've been, and great acoustics |
| 08:25.30 | scanlime | yup |
| 08:26.15 | ChipX86 | "Soldiers of corn! Lend me your ears." |
| 08:26.24 | numist | *pop* |
| 08:26.28 | numist | toss |
| 08:26.43 | ChipX86 | Tick: "Wow, that was bad." |
| 08:26.43 | purple_cow | speaking of, apparently track 11 on medulla has inuit throat-singing |
| 08:44.05 | purple_cow | ugh, why am i still awake |
| 08:44.42 | scanlime | sigh |
| 08:45.00 | scanlime | I appreciate the thought when people send me the XML for their rulesets, but it really doesn't help any :) |
| 08:45.50 | scanlime | maybe I just need a command line tool I can paste the XML into |
| 08:46.00 | scanlime | or even, *gasp*, a proper web interface |
| 08:46.11 | ChipX86 | Saturday? :) |
| 08:47.37 | scanlime | first I'm tackling the database issues |
| 08:47.41 | scanlime | much more pressing |
| 08:47.43 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:47.54 | ChipX86 | how's the planning going on that? |
| 08:48.11 | scanlime | I'm still nitpicking the design, but I have most of it sorted out I think |
| 08:48.40 | scanlime | came up with a sort of 2-level disk-optimized skiplist thing for replacing the commit counters |
| 08:49.01 | scanlime | so instead of today/yesterday/this-month/last-month and such, you'd be able to do arbitrary interval queries |
| 08:49.17 | scanlime | so the site could constantly display a sliding window of the commits in the last 24 hours |
| 08:49.26 | scanlime | and you could do sequences of smaller interval queries to build graphs |
| 08:49.37 | scanlime | should be really space and I/O efficient |
| 08:50.28 | scanlime | the format for the messages themselves is something I'm still pondering |
| 08:51.02 | scanlime | I know it will be a ring buffer and that messages will be identified by a file offset plus a way to verify that offset using a framing sequence |
| 08:51.22 | scanlime | but I'm debating between chronological order and reverse-chronological order |
| 08:52.51 | scanlime | reverse chronological is more intuitive when you want to read the last N commits quickly, but it requires sparse files |
| 08:53.31 | scanlime | chronological means no sparse files, but I'd need a separate (very small) index ringbuffer to query it efficiently |
| 08:54.06 | scanlime | prollly going to go with the latter, considering how small the index would be and how awful it is to back up sparse files efficiently |
| 08:55.53 | scanlime | bedtime, now that I've talked your ear off and you're asleep ;) |
| 08:56.36 | ChipX86 | not asleep, reading and watching a movie :) |
| 08:56.42 | ChipX86 | although it somehow got late |
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| 15:46.40 | kergoth | whee, last minute cleaning |
| 15:47.02 | file | hey kergoth |
| 15:56.03 | darth_mall | oi |
| 15:56.08 | darth_mall | why is reading error messages so hard |
| 15:56.47 | file | darth_mall: requires thinking |
| 15:56.51 | darth_mall | this kid gets an AttributeError with the message that the instance of the class has no such attribute, and he's asking if there's something he needs to import... |
| 15:58.09 | darth_mall | I would think it's pretty obvious that the problem is that this object doesn't have this attribute, but maybe that's because I'm used to programming in Python... |
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| 16:10.24 | purple_cow | blah |
| 16:10.32 | purple_cow | this 8am class is thoroughly kicking my ass |
| 16:16.04 | ChipX86 | of course the lenovo guy calls at 8:15 while I'm in bed |
| 16:16.23 | kergoth | naturally |
| 16:16.36 | kergoth | http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/52975.html |
| 16:16.38 | ChipX86 | good news! |
| 16:16.44 | kergoth | yay |
| 16:16.45 | ChipX86 | they found a laptop they think I'll like |
| 16:16.51 | ChipX86 | all I need to do is wait for a fax adn send it back |
| 16:16.53 | ChipX86 | and they'll ship it to me |
| 16:16.55 | kergoth | nice |
| 16:17.05 | ChipX86 | of course WE DID THIS ALREADY |
| 16:17.08 | kergoth | you might find that url i just pasted amusing :) |
| 16:17.11 | kergoth | heh |
| 16:17.51 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 16:17.53 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 16:17.57 | ChipX86 | so... |
| 16:18.12 | ChipX86 | he said the model they were going to give me was just discontinued |
| 16:18.16 | ChipX86 | (encouraging) |
| 16:18.28 | ChipX86 | and he assumed that it was shipped, but it wasn't |
| 16:18.30 | Cae | Quote of the day |
| 16:18.30 | Cae | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.34 | ChipX86 | so they found a new laptop model for me |
| 16:18.42 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:18.44 | file | ChipX86: would you like a pen to stab him with? |
| 16:18.49 | ChipX86 | 2.13GHz instead of 2GHz that the one was that they were going to send me |
| 16:18.55 | Cae | (borrowed from another LJ entry) |
| 16:19.00 | ChipX86 | 60GB 7200RPM instead of 5200RPM |
| 16:19.02 | ChipX86 | although smaller drive |
| 16:19.07 | ChipX86 | but same as what I have now |
| 16:19.15 | file | it's faster though so naturally you'll work faster |
| 16:19.19 | ChipX86 | I have to do the damn faxing thing again |
| 16:19.25 | darth_mall | Cae: =D |
| 16:19.26 | ChipX86 | and he insists they're overnighting it |
| 16:19.33 | ChipX86 | and I'll "have it in my hands Saturday" |
| 16:19.59 | ChipX86 | of course that one will never come |
| 16:20.15 | ChipX86 | "We forgot, we don't make laptops anymore! You owe us the price of one laptop." |
| 16:20.29 | Cae | heh |
| 16:20.58 | file | ChipX86: I still can't believe you paid for one laptop, paid more money to have it fixed, and still have a broken pos |
| 16:21.06 | ChipX86 | no kidding |
| 16:21.17 | kergoth | :( |
| 16:21.20 | kergoth | thats so fucked up |
| 16:22.07 | ChipX86 | heh, 128MB graphics card |
| 16:22.18 | file | is it one of those fancy desktop replacements? |
| 16:22.22 | ChipX86 | yeah, like mine |
| 16:22.28 | ChipX86 | I required something at least as good as mine |
| 16:22.29 | ChipX86 | spec-wise |
| 16:24.32 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 16:26.02 | file | I have to pack tonight... or, hrm, maybe tomorrow |
| 16:31.42 | gonkulator | yay enigma |
| 16:32.14 | file | hey gonkulator |
| 16:32.20 | gonkulator | howdy file |
| 16:32.27 | file | how are you? |
| 16:34.52 | gonkulator | how are you file? |
| 16:35.35 | file | mmm I'm good |
| 16:35.44 | file | I cleaned up my room to keep my mother from cleaning it when I'm gone next week |
| 16:36.00 | file | need to pack and stuff |
| 16:36.51 | gonkulator | both of which would require closing the IRC window |
| 16:41.43 | kergoth | gf will be here in 3.5 hours :) |
| 16:41.50 | gonkulator | nice |
| 16:42.01 | rioter | is that when she said she will get there, or real world time :P |
| 16:42.17 | kergoth | thats when her flight arrives, she doesnt have much choice in the matter :P |
| 16:42.29 | rioter | you know the power of girls |
| 16:42.41 | rioter | make them circle the airport while she does her makeup in that little cubical |
| 16:42.50 | gonkulator | hahaha |
| 16:42.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:43.43 | file | http://www.bsdfreak.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=405 :) |
| 16:43.59 | file | I'm excellent at customer service apparently |
| 16:44.43 | gonkulator | assterlink? |
| 16:44.53 | gonkulator | s/ss/s/ |
| 16:45.04 | file | that's the brand of our service I run |
| 16:45.13 | gonkulator | oh, ok |
| 16:45.14 | file | and where my pay check comes from |
| 16:46.20 | file | gonkulator: so having fun? |
| 16:46.31 | gonkulator | file: sort of |
| 16:46.47 | file | ooh e-mail |
| 16:46.49 | file | I've heard about that |
| 16:46.54 | gonkulator | yep |
| 16:46.57 | gonkulator | strong bad! |
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| 16:56.03 | Cae | http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/11/04/mayor.thumbs.ap/index.html |
| 16:56.20 | Cae | last paragraph :) |
| 16:57.16 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 16:59.12 | ChipX86 | you know, not having my laptop and all is fine I guess, but it would have been nice if instead of telling me good news, we foiund a laptop for me, etc, if instead he said they messed up, sorry for the delays |
| 16:59.47 | ChipX86 | also our "scheduled 11:00 Thursday phone meeting about the laptop" apparently didn't exist, as he claimed he would "call [me] sometime in the next few days" |
| 17:02.28 | ChipX86 | "According to Janne Jormalainen, Vice President of Convergence Products with Nokia's Multimedia unit, presence related functionality will be key in the next update, which is due out in the first half of 2006 and is to include VoIP and Instant Messaging applications. " |
| 17:03.01 | file | you said the V word |
| 17:03.13 | ChipX86 | no, "presence" |
| 17:03.25 | file | oh, that too |
| 17:03.26 | ChipX86 | s/presence related functionality/Galago/ |
| 17:03.36 | ChipX86 | "will be key" :D |
| 17:03.47 | file | yay ChipX86 is the key! |
| 17:07.39 | ChipX86 | ohhh kickass |
| 17:07.40 | ChipX86 | this has flash |
| 17:07.45 | ChipX86 | watching Homestar Runner on it |
| 17:08.04 | file | geeky |
| 17:10.57 | darth_mall | I love how Amer can't override methods like a normal person |
| 17:11.19 | darth_mall | all of his classes have some kind of print method, rather than a toString method |
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| 17:21.37 | darth_mall | this class is turning into "Refactoring Java using Eclipse" |
| 17:34.25 | darth_mall | boooooooooooored |
| 17:36.03 | file | good idea |
| 17:38.42 | gonkulator | yay metaphysics |
| 17:39.27 | scanlime | metaphysics, for those of you who thought underwater basket weaving just wasn't pushing the envelope |
| 17:39.35 | darth_mall | heh |
| 17:40.38 | gonkulator | absolute truth in its finest philosophical exposition |
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| 17:45.56 | file | hail pagefault |
| 17:46.05 | pagefault | hey file |
| 17:46.09 | pagefault | whats up file |
| 17:46.18 | file | not too much, yourself? |
| 17:46.37 | pagefault | not much here either |
| 17:52.11 | pagefault | yay |
| 17:52.16 | file | ugh I just got dragged into a meeting |
| 17:52.24 | pagefault | i'm one bar away from level 60 on WoW |
| 17:53.17 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:53.24 | kergoth | i'll be hitting 58 shortly |
| 17:53.34 | kergoth | did DM east for the first time last night |
| 17:53.37 | kergoth | good stuff |
| 17:53.56 | kergoth | we tried west first.. owie |
| 17:54.16 | pagefault | haha |
| 17:54.52 | kergoth | got my [Frost Shock And You] :) |
| 17:55.30 | pagefault | hehe nice |
| 17:56.09 | kergoth | http://wow.allakhazam.com/item.html?witem=18471 is what i'll get from it. not too bad. i expect the fire resistance will end up being the most useful |
| 17:57.38 | laodamas | "22 astronauts were born in the state of Ohio. What is it about your state that makes people want the flee the earth?" -- Steven Colbert |
| 17:57.48 | kergoth | haha |
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| 18:03.24 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:05.28 | file | why do I get dragged into meetings? ugh |
| 18:05.44 | file | pagefault: wanna take my place? |
| 18:17.09 | pagefault | I would have no idea what was going on |
| 18:17.56 | file | our boss fell asleep |
| 18:18.00 | file | :) meeting on hold! |
| 18:18.19 | pagefault | haha |
| 18:22.18 | nullpuppy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.40 | kergoth | hahah |
| 18:24.41 | kergoth | nice |
| 18:55.29 | hardwire | that souunds fun |
| 18:55.41 | hardwire | in a 70's disco kind of way. I think the word roller just makes me think that. |
| 18:56.16 | laodamas | Only a a few more weeks until the Denver area cross country skiing places open! |
| 18:58.49 | laodamas | there is nothing like noiselessly cruising on skiis at 20mph on a lonely trail that zig-zags through the trees |
| 19:01.48 | laodamas | it almost feels as though you have sprouted wings and are flying a few inches off the ground |
| 19:02.48 | laodamas | now all I need is a car slave to drive me up into the mountains every weekend |
| 19:05.55 | hardwire | you shoould live up here :) |
| 19:06.11 | hardwire | I forget how its spelled but skijourning is all the rage up here |
| 19:06.19 | hardwire | esp if you have a dog you can tether up to help pull you |
| 19:06.57 | file | I can't find a USB charging cable... where oh where did I misplace it |
| 19:07.02 | numist | rollerski? |
| 19:07.04 | hardwire | radioshack? |
| 19:07.31 | hardwire | laodamas: you can cross country acrossed the town in anchorage.. acrossed 1-2 mile populace free places |
| 19:07.48 | darth_mall | yay for stealing internet |
| 19:07.59 | hardwire | or go to the 20 mile cross couutnry trail up in the foothills here |
| 19:08.03 | hardwire | whatch out for bears |
| 19:08.06 | hardwire | watch :) |
| 19:08.12 | laodamas | http://francois.muller.free.fr/images/rollerski.jpg |
| 19:08.16 | hardwire | or do like some people we saw. |
| 19:08.28 | hardwire | and go over Euklutna lake |
| 19:08.40 | hardwire | laodamas: they get hit by cars up here a lot |
| 19:08.41 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:08.45 | laodamas | ha |
| 19:09.06 | hardwire | most of the high schools have rollerski clubs here |
| 19:09.21 | hardwire | so yoou have to wait like 5 minutes for the club to cross a street |
| 19:09.36 | laodamas | hardwire: neat. Around here people give me looks as though a UFO is flying past |
| 19:09.59 | hardwire | thats the spandex |
| 19:10.03 | hardwire | not the rollerski |
| 19:10.22 | darth_mall | don't suppose anyone here knows how to configure conf.d/wireless for an essid with a space in the name |
| 19:10.29 | hardwire | use quotes? |
| 19:11.07 | darth_mall | hardwire: that works fine for preferred_aps, but what about things like key_ESSID ? |
| 19:11.22 | hardwire | actually I runno.. |
| 19:11.24 | hardwire | I don't use that |
| 19:11.25 | darth_mall | ok |
| 19:11.42 | darth_mall | it's not overly important |
| 19:11.55 | hardwire | yes it is |
| 19:11.58 | hardwire | don't deminish your self worth |
| 19:12.03 | darth_mall | there are always plenty of open networks |
| 19:12.05 | hardwire | you deserve to know |
| 19:12.14 | darth_mall | hardwire: my self worth doesn't get diminished |
| 19:12.20 | darth_mall | or if it does, I never notice |
| 19:12.46 | hardwire | darth_mall: I was expecting perhaps you to go "Yeh.. damnit.. WOOWOOWOOOWOO!" |
| 19:13.10 | darth_mall | heh |
| 19:14.51 | darth_mall | it looks like in the example file, they just omit the spaces |
| 19:19.54 | darth_mall | oh well |
| 19:20.01 | darth_mall | this Brewing Market's wireless is too crazy |
| 19:20.15 | darth_mall | just gonna steal this wireless that still has the default essid |
| 19:20.17 | scanlime | there's electric cars, there's electric trains, here comes a robot with electric brains! |
| 19:21.17 | darth_mall | have you heard the adult version of that? |
| 19:21.31 | darth_mall | it sounds like Metallica covering it |
| 19:21.33 | darth_mall | it's hilarious |
| 19:21.35 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:21.56 | scanlime | Flans described this album as their "Cultural trojan horse" last night ;) |
| 19:22.09 | darth_mall | I think it's on Working Undercover for the Man - EP |
| 19:22.23 | scanlime | oh wait |
| 19:22.31 | darth_mall | you may not have it, that's a recent acquisition, IIRC |
| 19:22.39 | scanlime | Where Do They Make Balloons is on, I can't touch my rio |
| 19:22.45 | numist | hehe |
| 19:22.51 | darth_mall | that is such a good song |
| 19:23.00 | darth_mall | there is something so incredibly touching about that song |
| 19:23.02 | scanlime | I wonder if they ever do this live |
| 19:23.13 | darth_mall | huh |
| 19:23.18 | scanlime | they did more from No and The Spine than I expected |
| 19:23.21 | darth_mall | I just remembered, I have a DVD of theirs I haven't watched yet |
| 19:23.25 | scanlime | they did Experimental Film last night =D |
| 19:25.22 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 19:25.30 | hardwire | the sugarcubes eh |
| 19:25.43 | darth_mall | TMBG is a pretty big motivation for me to move to a coast after college ^^ |
| 19:25.49 | scanlime | yeah :) |
| 19:25.52 | ChipX86 | anybody know who zooko (Bryce Wilcox-O'Hearn) is? |
| 19:25.57 | darth_mall | since they do shows very regularly, just only along the sides of the country |
| 19:26.01 | scanlime | well, apparently this is their first west coast tour? |
| 19:26.09 | scanlime | they're starting in SF, then ending up in San Diego |
| 19:26.11 | scanlime | after skipping LA =D |
| 19:26.53 | scanlime | mop! |
| 19:26.58 | scanlime | mop mop! |
| 19:27.12 | numist | well, LA should be skipped >_> |
| 19:27.23 | scanlime | everyone skips LA |
| 19:27.32 | scanlime | it just isn't worth visiting unless siggraph is in town |
| 19:28.02 | hardwire | debian needs to store binary diffs in its package pools. |
| 19:28.18 | kergoth | eh, no, they really dont |
| 19:28.39 | hardwire | kergoth: it would have helped me in one instance so far. |
| 19:28.40 | hardwire | thats about it |
| 19:28.56 | hardwire | openoffice 2.0 came out in debian.. the next week the -2 revision of that came out.. all new packages. |
| 19:29.13 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9188 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Clean this up because it was a mess after my fiddling with pop-ups. |
| 19:29.29 | scanlime | when he tastes a pear, it's like a hundred pears |
| 19:30.16 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9189 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/ (menu.c menu.h): Remove the menu stuff. Perhaps I'll come back to that some day. |
| 19:30.49 | darth_mall | wow, it's gettin' windy outside |
| 19:31.53 | scanlime | the tallest, widest, and most famous haunted mansion in new jersey |
| 19:32.29 | darth_mall | another excellent song ^^ |
| 19:32.59 | nullpuppy | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/index.php?t=archives&date=last |
| 19:33.25 | kergoth | haha |
| 19:34.08 | nullpuppy | "Everybody wears pants! We're Sony! *FUCK* pants!" |
| 19:34.46 | hardwire | heh |
| 19:35.31 | nullpuppy | oooh, new cad shirts... like the first one |
| 19:36.20 | hardwire | http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-10-31 |
| 19:36.33 | darth_mall | hmmm |
| 19:36.37 | darth_mall | x-g is being weird |
| 19:38.26 | file | hardwire: in a parallel universe yes |
| 19:38.58 | hardwire | interesting. |
| 19:39.08 | hardwire | and how do you gain access to this other universe you speak of? |
| 19:39.21 | file | wormhole! |
| 19:39.27 | hardwire | speaking of which |
| 19:39.35 | hardwire | I am forcing farscape season 1 down my g/f's throat |
| 19:40.05 | hardwire | kergoth: |
| 19:40.11 | hardwire | 28828 openoffice.org-core_2.0.0-1_i386.deb |
| 19:40.11 | hardwire | 28572 openoffice.org-core_2.0.0-2_i386.deb |
| 19:40.11 | hardwire | 27840 outfile.diff |
| 19:40.22 | hardwire | ok.. so thats xdelta's response to my whim. |
| 19:40.47 | hardwire | so maybe a binary delta befooore its compressed :) |
| 19:40.49 | scanlime | you goofball, you just diffed two compressed files |
| 19:41.04 | hardwire | scanlime: yeh.. well.. I sorta kinda just remembered. |
| 19:41.26 | hardwire | everything always maked more sense after I saw my own foot off. |
| 19:46.48 | hardwire | 79176 openoffice.org-core-1.tar |
| 19:46.49 | hardwire | 78596 openoffice.org-core-2.tar |
| 19:46.49 | hardwire | 14756 openoffice.org-core.diff |
| 19:46.52 | hardwire | thats much preferred |
| 19:47.13 | hardwire | 14692 openoffice.org-core.diff.gz |
| 19:47.16 | hardwire | and thats just plain funny |
| 19:51.19 | hardwire | well |
| 19:56.04 | hardwire | bsdiff is kicking my cpu's ass |
| 19:56.46 | file | get it with no credit at easyloan |
| 19:57.32 | scanlime | wow... |
| 19:57.54 | scanlime | strptime() is by far the slowest part of parsing these log files |
| 19:58.04 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9190 10xchat-gnome/plugins/notification/notification.c: Fix the window hiding. |
| 19:59.03 | pagefault | hey kergoth how do I turn off that thing that automatally announces my health to people |
| 20:02.33 | kergoth | thats alerter. pretty sure its in myaddons |
| 20:02.51 | kergoth | pretty configurable. that addon is also what shows you when your target is casting something.. |
| 20:02.54 | kergoth | which is /really/ nice |
| 20:04.42 | scanlime | what happened to games anyone can just sit down at and have fun with? you talk about WoW like it's an operating system :P |
| 20:05.02 | purple_cow | yay bruce |
| 20:05.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:05.09 | darth_mall | purple_cow: ^^ |
| 20:05.18 | darth_mall | I hope that's ok |
| 20:05.19 | pagefault | thanks |
| 20:05.22 | pagefault | I am 60 now |
| 20:05.22 | purple_cow | boo brita |
| 20:05.22 | pagefault | hehe |
| 20:05.29 | kergoth | pagefault: grats |
| 20:05.30 | purple_cow | darth_mall: well, we didn't add that stuff to the architecture doc... |
| 20:05.36 | pagefault | thanks |
| 20:05.40 | purple_cow | lets wait and see if he notices |
| 20:05.46 | pagefault | I need better gear badly |
| 20:05.49 | pagefault | I am getting spanked in pvp |
| 20:05.59 | pagefault | everyone has all epic stuff |
| 20:07.12 | hardwire | pvp? |
| 20:07.17 | numist | wow |
| 20:08.43 | darth_mall | oooh... Erik Satie |
| 20:08.54 | hardwire | bsdiff just snoinked up 24 megs of swap |
| 20:09.02 | hardwire | and a 5.0 load average |
| 20:09.24 | purple_cow | ChipX86: talking with philip on monday |
| 20:10.14 | hardwire | this is my first time trying to play bzflag on dual 24" lcd's |
| 20:10.19 | hardwire | runs wonderfully. |
| 20:10.23 | hardwire | but I have to sit back 4 feet |
| 20:10.33 | hardwire | and the refresh isn't synced per monitor |
| 20:10.42 | hardwire | which I assumed it would be by the card. |
| 20:11.04 | darth_mall | Satie will forever remind me of Honfleur |
| 20:13.04 | hardwire | do you think the x2x programmers were purposefully mean by making the primary screen display a little green dot in relation tot he remote screens mouse cursor.. just to piss me off thinking my new LCD has a dead pixel? |
| 20:13.40 | scanlime | yes, I do |
| 20:13.45 | scanlime | you've hit the nail right on the button! |
| 20:15.13 | hardwire | coffee is kicking in too slow |
| 20:15.21 | hardwire | I should take the day off and clean my office |
| 20:15.27 | hardwire | clean my workshop room |
| 20:15.31 | hardwire | run some cables |
| 20:15.35 | hardwire | talk some shit |
| 20:15.43 | darth_mall | club some seals |
| 20:15.53 | hardwire | or crack open my laptop and stick this 400mw 802.11g card in it |
| 20:16.09 | hardwire | just to make sure I don't have babies |
| 20:20.03 | purple_cow | doesn't FUSE use the kernel's VFS layer? |
| 20:20.11 | hardwire | of course. |
| 20:20.27 | hardwire | but for the most part fuse filesystems require their own mouunting program |
| 20:20.36 | purple_cow | so what does gnome-vfs have to do? |
| 20:21.02 | hardwire | most fuse filesystems don't work with fstab |
| 20:21.09 | purple_cow | huh |
| 20:21.20 | hardwire | it would be nice to see some like.. encfs and sshfs store codes in the keychain as well |
| 20:21.25 | hardwire | or gmailfs |
| 20:22.04 | purple_cow | gnome-vfs already does ssh:// |
| 20:22.23 | hardwire | and could do more w/ fuse |
| 20:22.24 | scanlime | dressed only in clothes |
| 20:22.27 | scanlime | from her head to her toes |
| 20:25.08 | hardwire | http://btslave.sourceforge.net/ <- makes me crazy |
| 20:26.59 | hardwire | encfs works very well |
| 20:28.00 | darth_mall | why do I have so much trouble with CVS but not SVN |
| 20:28.57 | purple_cow | because cvs is dumb? |
| 20:29.26 | darth_mall | is it? or is it that I just don't understand it very well |
| 20:29.35 | purple_cow | well, depends on the problems |
| 20:29.38 | purple_cow | but probably the former |
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| 20:31.25 | hardwire | heh.. m3ufs sounds neat |
| 22:04.17 | nullpuppy | zak|gone: http://www.nulldomain.com/book/fingerpaintingwithdeath :) |
| 22:19.29 | hardwire | kergoth: poke |
| 22:22.38 | file[laptop] | hardwire: prod |
| 22:25.41 | scanlime | memo to myself: do the dumb things I gotta do |
| 22:25.48 | scanlime | touch the puppet head! |
| 22:32.18 | hardwire | file[laptop]: heh |
| 22:32.27 | hardwire | file[laptop]: has openpbx looked at ACTP yet? |
| 22:32.29 | hardwire | SCTP |
| 22:32.42 | file[laptop] | hardwire: no |
| 22:33.10 | hardwire | it would be interesting how you could use the ACK couunters to determine loss |
| 22:33.16 | hardwire | on de fly |
| 22:33.26 | file[laptop] | someone is throwing a fit right now so I'm watching |
| 22:33.33 | file[laptop] | because we're installing /opt now |
| 22:33.48 | hardwire | file[laptop]: openpbx goes into /opt ? |
| 22:33.55 | file[laptop] | the automake branch does |
| 22:33.59 | hardwire | annoying |
| 22:34.00 | file[laptop] | by default. |
| 22:36.19 | file[laptop] | s/openpbx/openpbx.org |
| 22:36.39 | purple_cow | wow |
| 22:36.47 | purple_cow | so apparently PHYS 1700 counts as a science course |
| 22:37.07 | purple_cow | which means that unless the music dean finds something i didn't, i only need 2 classes next semester to graduate |
| 22:37.21 | file[laptop] | ooh nice |
| 22:37.42 | scanlime | cool |
| 22:37.51 | scanlime | so what else are you going to do? |
| 22:38.10 | purple_cow | i'll probably just find some stuff that sounds interesting and easy in order to pad it out to 12 credits |
| 22:38.14 | purple_cow | so i get the tax break |
| 22:38.39 | scanlime | all the people are so happy now, their heads are caving in. I'm glad they are a snowman with protective rubber skin |
| 22:41.06 | purple_cow | and apparently scheduling a penultimate-semester degree audit in the music school involves filling out a diploma card |
| 22:41.29 | scanlime | yay, diploma card |
| 22:41.46 | scanlime | oof, food coma |
| 22:41.55 | scanlime | we went to an Indian buffet today |
| 22:41.59 | scanlime | too much curry! |
| 22:42.01 | scanlime | or not enough |
| 22:42.12 | scanlime | just too much for my puny digestive system to process without inducing sleep |
| 22:42.16 | purple_cow | heh |
| 22:42.19 | purple_cow | buffets are OK |
| 22:42.30 | purple_cow | generally they're northern food though, and i prefer southern |
| 22:42.38 | purple_cow | not that nothern food isn't great |
| 22:44.27 | darth_mall | dammit |
| 22:44.34 | darth_mall | there was something I was going to do on my computer and now I don't remember |
| 22:46.16 | purple_cow | grab bmg svn and start breaking your system? |
| 22:46.25 | darth_mall | purple_cow: no |
| 22:46.27 | darth_mall | but good guess |
| 22:46.34 | purple_cow | yay natural language processing |
| 22:47.02 | darth_mall | it'll be interesting, I think |
| 22:47.06 | darth_mall | and I like Martin |
| 22:47.31 | darth_mall | well, I suppose in lieu of doing whatever it was I was going to do, I'll work on x-g a little more |
| 22:47.40 | purple_cow | i'd loan you the textbook for the class (i assume you're planning on taking it?), but it's really something worth the money |
| 22:50.21 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9191 10xchat-gnome/plugins/net-monitor/ (. net-monitor.c): very beginnings of NetworkManager integration |
| 22:51.04 | CIA-9 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9192 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/fe-gnome.c: USE_PLUGIN not USE_PLUGINS |
| 22:52.01 | darth_mall | I should probably do some work for UI Design, but I just don't feel like it right now |
| 22:52.12 | scanlime | every time I see x-g I think unix permissions.. |
| 22:53.35 | numist | rwxr-xr-x |
| 22:53.38 | numist | er |
| 22:53.40 | numist | -rwxr-xr-x |
| 22:54.06 | scanlime | these things happen to other people |
| 22:54.11 | scanlime | they don't happen at all, in fact |
| 22:56.02 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 22:56.08 | purple_cow | orph is preaching libsexy |
| 22:59.00 | numist | sweet |
| 23:09.33 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 23:10.37 | ChipX86 | where does he say libsexy? |
| 23:10.49 | ChipX86 | oh there it is |
| 23:11.00 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ? |
| 23:11.18 | scanlime | no others need apply! |
| 23:12.20 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 23:12.51 | *** join/#tacobeam file[laptop] (n=jcolp@mctnnbsa31w-142166116148.nb.aliant.net) |
| 23:18.54 | scanlime | wow |
| 23:18.57 | scanlime | Whirlpool is cool |
| 23:19.01 | scanlime | don't remember hearing this before |
| 23:20.02 | file[laptop] | my brother just called to tell me to go see the strippers in Montreal because they're awsome |
| 23:20.16 | scanlime | well, are they? |
| 23:20.57 | hardwire | the strippers here are fascinating |
| 23:21.05 | hardwire | real diamond in the rough stuff :) |
| 23:21.53 | scanlime | where hydrogen is built into helium at a temperature of millions of degrees! |
| 23:23.21 | scanlime | and that's why he looks so small! |
| 23:23.35 | scanlime | the sunlight comes from our own sun's atomic energy |
| 23:23.50 | ChipX86 | uh oh! someone hasn't had enough beer! |
| 23:24.02 | scanlime | beer? |
| 23:24.17 | ChipX86 | sure, why not |
| 23:24.20 | scanlime | isn't it a little early for that? |
| 23:24.25 | ChipX86 | probably |
| 23:24.28 | ChipX86 | only by an hour |
| 23:24.28 | numist | nah |
| 23:24.33 | ChipX86 | got my 770 here today, btw |
| 23:24.49 | ChipX86 | oh yeah, got a new hire candidate that we've been interviewing |
| 23:24.51 | scanlime | ah, cute |
| 23:24.56 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy|work (n=dkuester@dlc75-99-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 23:24.58 | hardwire | 770? |
| 23:24.59 | ChipX86 | we're doing the usual video games/beer bash thing :) |
| 23:25.00 | scanlime | yeah... I saw the interview schedule actually |
| 23:25.03 | ChipX86 | hardwire: Nokia 770 |
| 23:25.15 | scanlime | Matt Ginzton is on it, and someone plopped the schedule into my chair instead of his this morning |
| 23:25.15 | numist | the nokia rwxrwx--- |
| 23:25.19 | ChipX86 | oh yeah |
| 23:25.22 | ChipX86 | numist: :) |
| 23:25.23 | hardwire | spiffy |
| 23:26.16 | scanlime | Am I Awake is such a cool song |
| 23:26.39 | hardwire | ChipX86: I hate to ask.. but has anybody released a sip phone for it? |
| 23:27.11 | laodamas | Nifty. Expedia has a $67/night rate at the Hilton Nairobi |
| 23:27.19 | ChipX86 | hardwire: why the hell would someone have a sip phone addon for it? :P |
| 23:27.26 | scanlime | does the 770 even have a headset? |
| 23:27.35 | hardwire | heh.. I thoought it was a phone ) |
| 23:27.39 | ChipX86 | it's not a phone |
| 23:27.49 | ChipX86 | nokia.com/770 |
| 23:27.56 | ChipX86 | scanlime: nope, though I guess in theory it could |
| 23:28.17 | scanlime | I'm sure you could use bluetooth headsets with it |
| 23:28.39 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:28.47 | laodamas | There is nothing like staying in a four star hotel after two weeks of camping :) |
| 23:28.59 | hardwire | hm 3.5mm sterio oiut |
| 23:29.04 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:30.16 | hardwire | well it has bt audio |
| 23:30.31 | hardwire | somebody could easily sip it. |
| 23:30.37 | hardwire | but nobody here would care :) |
| 23:30.49 | scanlime | exactly |
| 23:30.54 | ChipX86 | stuff is going to happen that I can't do much talking about just yet |
| 23:31.02 | scanlime | I have to ask... |
| 23:31.03 | ChipX86 | all I can do is point you to the 2nd to last paragraph in an aricle |
| 23:31.22 | ChipX86 | http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/6289.html |
| 23:31.34 | scanlime | given the choice between having a cell phone in your pocket giving you bluetooth audio absolutely anywhere, and a large 770 in your pocket giving you bluetooth audio only near an 802.11 AP.. why would you want to use the 770 as a phone? |
| 23:31.47 | hardwire | 770 == GPRS |
| 23:31.51 | scanlime | no |
| 23:31.51 | hardwire | as well |
| 23:31.53 | ChipX86 | no |
| 23:31.55 | ChipX86 | since when? |
| 23:32.03 | hardwire | am I blind reading that site? |
| 23:32.09 | scanlime | you'd have to use a bluetooth phone to get GPRS |
| 23:32.12 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:32.14 | ChipX86 | you use a phone |
| 23:32.16 | hardwire | or does nokia just put GPRS disclaimners at the end of all their pages? |
| 23:32.20 | ChipX86 | this isn't a phone replacement. It's an internet/multimedia device |
| 23:32.21 | scanlime | and why would you want to do voip over GPRS, that would be awful |
| 23:32.36 | ChipX86 | it's a companion to a phone if anything |
| 23:32.38 | hardwire | scanlime: its not as bad as you think |
| 23:32.47 | scanlime | ugh |
| 23:33.00 | ChipX86 | hardwire: it's not intended to be a phone |
| 23:33.07 | ChipX86 | I know the developers of this |
| 23:33.09 | hardwire | anyways.. I saw a disclaimer.. but didn't read the spec to see the no GPRS part |
| 23:33.13 | scanlime | ChipX86: everything is a phone, in hardwire-land |
| 23:33.15 | ChipX86 | Nokia already makes phones |
| 23:33.20 | hardwire | http://www.nokiausa.com/770/1,7841,feat:1,00.html has a gprs disclaimer |
| 23:33.20 | ChipX86 | this is not supposed to be one |
| 23:33.25 | ChipX86 | good for it |
| 23:33.42 | hardwire | just pointing out where I got off track |
| 23:33.46 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 23:33.53 | ChipX86 | now it will have some VoIP stuff in time |
| 23:33.58 | ChipX86 | it'll be part of the same system that does IM |
| 23:34.02 | ChipX86 | which is also for the linux desktop |
| 23:34.06 | hardwire | basically |
| 23:35.00 | *** join/#tacobeam Laser_Dolphin (n=Laser_Do@ec237-251-dhcp.colorado.edu) |
| 23:35.22 | Laser_Dolphin | Greetings tacobeam |
| 23:35.27 | scanlime | heyas Rich |
| 23:35.32 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 23:35.46 | Laser_Dolphin | scanlime, do you still get stupid CU e-mails? |
| 23:35.53 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:36.03 | Laser_Dolphin | Did you get the one about student parking? |
| 23:36.08 | scanlime | uhh |
| 23:36.21 | Laser_Dolphin | According to how they worded the e-mail, we can now e-park our cars |
| 23:36.27 | Laser_Dolphin | TO: All students |
| 23:36.27 | Laser_Dolphin | FROM: Parking and Transportation Services |
| 23:36.27 | Laser_Dolphin | SENDER: Sharron.Lucas@colorado.edu |
| 23:36.27 | Laser_Dolphin | DATE: November 4, 2005 |
| 23:36.27 | Laser_Dolphin | SUBJECT: Mark your calendars for the 1st day of online Student Parking |
| 23:36.29 | Laser_Dolphin | November 14, at noon the web site will open for second semester student parking |
| 23:36.31 | Laser_Dolphin | at: http://ucbparking.colorado.edu |
| 23:36.35 | Laser_Dolphin | So we can park our cars online! |
| 23:36.36 | Laser_Dolphin | w00t! |
| 23:36.59 | scanlime | didn't get that one |
| 23:37.05 | Laser_Dolphin | he he he |
| 23:37.06 | scanlime | prolly good that I'm off at least some of their lists.. |
| 23:37.11 | Laser_Dolphin | no kidding |
| 23:37.21 | Laser_Dolphin | I'm tempted to block the student buff bulletin |
| 23:40.41 | ChipX86 | woops |
| 23:40.46 | ChipX86 | I should do my status report |
| 23:41.01 | scanlime | oh |
| 23:41.01 | scanlime | yeah |
| 23:48.35 | scanlime | weeks always seem more productive after you write a long email detailing what you worked on |
| 23:48.43 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 23:50.01 | ChipX86 | how do you write your status reports? itemized lists and sections, full paragraphs..? |
| 23:50.38 | scanlime | I have a 'this week' and 'next week' section, each with itemized lists. But, I usually write a lot in each list item, so it looks more like full paragraphs |
| 23:51.01 | ChipX86 | sounds somewhat like mine |
| 23:51.08 | ChipX86 | although the sentences were quite short lately |
| 23:51.12 | purple_cow | so i've set up this here shared folder, right |
| 23:51.16 | purple_cow | how do i mount it in the guest? |
| 23:51.18 | ChipX86 | uh oh |
| 23:51.22 | ChipX86 | are tools installed? |
| 23:51.25 | purple_cow | yep |
| 23:51.32 | ChipX86 | should be /mnt/hgfs |
| 23:51.42 | scanlime | IIRC you don't need to mount them, they just show up there |
| 23:51.46 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 23:51.49 | purple_cow | hmm, nothing in there |
| 23:52.11 | ChipX86 | I've seen a lot of people have trouble with them in linux |
| 23:52.14 | ChipX86 | I know they used to work |
| 23:52.17 | ChipX86 | haven't tried in a while |
| 23:52.43 | Laser_Dolphin | Sorry to say it, but they work in Windows (well, when Windows works at least) |
| 23:52.56 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:53.03 | scanlime | Laser_Dolphin: we're talking about vmware, not windows networking :P |
| 23:53.24 | Laser_Dolphin | I know...I'm just being non-helpful |
| 23:53.33 | Laser_Dolphin | It's what I do best ^_^ |
| 23:54.25 | purple_cow | no, telling "stories" is what you do best |
| 23:54.59 | purple_cow | ;) |
| 23:56.03 | ChipX86 | bah, Regis took his phone |
| 23:56.07 | Laser_Dolphin | I like stories |
| 23:56.08 | ChipX86 | I was going to stream music on my 770 |
| 23:56.10 | Laser_Dolphin | This one time... |
| 23:56.14 | Laser_Dolphin | when I was 6... |
| 23:56.34 | scanlime | ChipX86: uh oh, over GPRS? |
| 23:57.06 | ChipX86 | yep! |
| 23:57.12 | Laser_Dolphin | POO! |
| 23:57.16 | hardwire | sorry I made a mistake :) |
| 23:57.16 | Laser_Dolphin | Why does the ITLL have to close |
| 23:57.28 | ChipX86 | guess I'll settle for my X5 |
| 23:57.29 | hardwire | I hope I am not a salt rubbing prick like you guys enjoy so much |
| 23:57.29 | Laser_Dolphin | We're engineers, we have no life |
| 23:57.49 | Laser_Dolphin | That would hurt to rub salt on your prick |
| 23:57.50 | ChipX86 | I wish my X5 and my 770 would talk to each other |
| 23:57.59 | ChipX86 | oh wait |
| 23:58.05 | scanlime | X5? |
| 23:58.07 | Laser_Dolphin | hardwire, tell me how that turns out for you |
| 23:58.07 | ChipX86 | iAudio |
| 23:58.11 | ChipX86 | hmmm |
| 23:58.13 | scanlime | it has bluetooth? |
| 23:58.17 | ChipX86 | nope, USB |
| 23:58.32 | ChipX86 | host and.. device? client? |
| 23:58.47 | ChipX86 | and the 770 is flashed to be in USB host mode (wish it could be both...) |
| 23:58.57 | ChipX86 | so I could plug one into the other |
| 23:59.01 | gonkulator | ~seen lurgy|work |
| 23:59.07 | jbot | lurgy|work is currently on #tacobeam (34m 11s) |
| 23:59.14 | ChipX86 | and then plug something else into one of them |
| 23:59.19 | ChipX86 | and have it all talk over Regis's phone |
| 23:59.25 | scanlime | ha |
| 23:59.36 | scanlime | if you want to try GPRS, could use my phone |
| 23:59.43 | ChipX86 | iAudio into 770, camera into iAudio |
