| 00:00.06 | scanlime | that python file is actually a Python simulation of a hardware delta-sigma modulator I was using at space grant |
| 00:00.18 | scanlime | muchly simplified, but it was a decent proof-of-concept |
| 00:00.56 | scanlime | the hardware was just an A/D converter. The floating point input corresponded to the A side of the A/D chip, and the output was just a string of digital bits |
| 00:01.09 | scanlime | you'd then run those bits through a low-pass filter in software, to recover the analog value |
| 00:01.33 | scanlime | the nice thing is that, theoretically at least, you can get more resolution just by decreasing the frequency of your filter |
| 00:01.44 | scanlime | you're free to trade off resolution for sampling rate as you wish |
| 00:02.05 | scanlime | so it's kind of a similar problem to what you're dealing with, where the human eye is performing the integration |
| 00:02.16 | scanlime | you want to be spitting out samples fairly fast so the eye doesn't see any flicker |
| 00:02.38 | scanlime | but you can still get high resolutions by spreading the subtle variations in brightness over lower frequencies |
| 00:03.02 | scanlime | this is what they mean by "1-bit DAC" when they advertise CD players |
| 00:03.39 | scanlime | delta-sigma modulators have nice linearity properties usually |
| 00:07.15 | kergoth | wow |
| 00:07.20 | kergoth | age of empires 3 is beautiful |
| 00:07.36 | ChipX86 | url? |
| 00:08.58 | numist | ChipX86: I stayed up until 4am playing civ4 last night |
| 00:09.12 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 00:09.13 | numist | the clock only lets me know what time it is.. I still say 'just lemme finish off spain' |
| 00:09.15 | ChipX86 | baaaad numist |
| 00:09.19 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:09.22 | numist | and hacking on it is fun! |
| 00:09.22 | ChipX86 | it should shut off |
| 00:09.28 | numist | yeah, it really should just save and die |
| 00:09.31 | numist | but nooo |
| 00:09.37 | ChipX86 | write an addon |
| 00:09.39 | numist | oh well |
| 00:09.41 | numist | I might |
| 00:09.51 | numist | I'm starting just by swimming in the cml |
| 00:09.52 | numist | xml* |
| 00:09.58 | numist | see what does what |
| 00:10.08 | numist | I'll read through the API and such when they publicize it early next year |
| 00:10.21 | numist | but its _so_ _cool_! |
| 00:10.31 | kergoth | ChipX86: birds fly overhead.. the british soldiers were painstakingly trying to reload their muskets :) |
| 00:10.43 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 00:11.47 | scanlime | hmm. Ever seen problems with widgets not rendering at all when they're inside a GtkEventBox? |
| 00:11.53 | hardwire | thats one funky dither |
| 00:11.56 | ChipX86 | scanlime: NOPE |
| 00:11.57 | ChipX86 | er |
| 00:11.58 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 00:12.02 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:12.08 | scanlime | hah |
| 00:12.23 | scanlime | http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=6 <-- third hit for "GtkEventBox" on google |
| 00:13.37 | scanlime | ohh |
| 00:15.23 | kergoth | hmm.. a lot of handhelds.org folks are getting tagged by razor as known spam :P |
| 00:19.44 | hardwire | scanlime: this is quite freaky |
| 00:20.58 | hardwire | unfortunatly it will take 2 minutes to show the largest pattern |
| 00:21.07 | hardwire | at 250hz |
| 00:21.40 | hardwire | bah.. I have that wrong |
| 00:24.23 | hardwire | it takes 22 seconds |
| 00:24.58 | scanlime | why do you still have 'patterns'? |
| 00:25.34 | hardwire | cheap cpu |
| 00:26.40 | scanlime | to cheap for a few additions? |
| 00:27.11 | scanlime | the whole point of delta-sigma modulation is that the error just keeps propagating.. so you don't want to deal with fixed-length patterns |
| 00:27.22 | scanlime | you want to leave the modulator running continuously at a constant rate, and just change the inputs |
| 00:28.05 | scanlime | you shouldn't be trying to do this with floating point- replace the 0.5 with 0x80000000 and that same code will work in 32-bit unsigned integer space |
| 00:28.19 | scanlime | well, I guess you'd want to stick with signed ints |
| 00:28.32 | scanlime | but anyway- you pick an arbitrary value to be 1, and replace the 0.5 with half that |
| 00:29.07 | hardwire | hmm. |
| 00:29.33 | scanlime | well, you'd also want to use that arbitrary "1" value when reading self.output |
| 00:30.15 | scanlime | the two places you see float(self.output), what it's actually doing is measuring its output in the same units its input is in, so it can compute error feedback values |
| 00:30.40 | scanlime | so to implement this in fixed point math, you'd have that use 0x4000000 or whatever if output was 1, or 0 if it was 0 |
| 00:30.49 | hardwire | weird.. I changes something and now its all funky |
| 00:31.29 | hardwire | no dithering. |
| 00:31.31 | hardwire | brb. |
| 00:43.54 | scanlime | yeah... |
| 00:44.31 | scanlime | it's dangerous when code looks a lot simpler than it really is ;) |
| 00:44.49 | scanlime | and gnome-canvas makes me cry |
| 00:44.53 | numist | like writing over memory /* ignore the man behind the curtain */ style? |
| 00:44.57 | scanlime | at least eventbox isn't bothering me any longer |
| 00:44.57 | CIA-5 | Ace: 03kergoth * r392 10stdlib/a/: Testing commit notification. |
| 00:45.06 | scanlime | numist: that never looked simple |
| 00:45.08 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:45.12 | purple_cow | i should prolly make dinner |
| 00:45.21 | CIA-5 | Ace: 03kergoth * r393 10stdlib/a/: Testing commit notification. |
| 00:45.38 | numist | scanlime: it fit on 3 lines, 80 chars wide ;) |
| 00:46.06 | scanlime | numist: the delta-sigma modulator looks like a piece of cake, but there are a lot of implementation and signal-processing issues hiding in it :) |
| 00:46.21 | numist | I dont think I want to know |
| 00:46.29 | scanlime | if hardwire can handle fixed point math though, even a tiny bit of it, he should be safe... |
| 00:47.32 | scanlime | gnome-canvas really isn't going to make it easy to add zooming to my graph.. |
| 00:48.47 | CIA-5 | Ace: 03kergoth * r394 10stdlib/modules/std.base.lua: stdlib (kergoth branch): Add tobool(), a function to turn an object into a boolean according to the __tobool metamethod. |
| 00:49.15 | scanlime | python's had that for months! |
| 00:49.18 | scanlime | ;) |
| 00:49.52 | kergoth | hehe. lua is minimal indeed. |
| 00:50.16 | kergoth | hmmmmm |
| 00:53.29 | CIA-5 | Ace: 03kergoth 07kergoth * r666 10Ace/AceCore.lua: Test cset, ignore me. |
| 00:54.42 | scanlime | how does this make any sense... |
| 00:54.59 | scanlime | when you scale items in gnome-canvas, rectangle outlines and such change size, but text doesn't |
| 00:56.51 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:56.56 | purple_cow | gnome-canvas doesn't make sense |
| 00:59.30 | scanlime | gnome-canvas doesn't seem to have a way to delete items |
| 00:59.36 | scanlime | ugh. no zooming, I decree |
| 00:59.37 | scanlime | too hard |
| 01:04.22 | Veight | hmm |
| 01:04.44 | Veight | anyone heard the story of kergoth trying to nuke me but failed and ended up nuking himself? |
| 01:05.25 | purple_cow | has anyone heard the story of a kid who had nothing interesting to talk about? |
| 01:08.17 | ChipX86 | the iAudio X5 is nice |
| 01:08.23 | ChipX86 | though I still miss Rio DJ |
| 01:11.18 | purple_cow | i wish i could summon iron chefs :( |
| 01:13.34 | file[laptop] | this royally sucks, I have $3000 I can't get to for another two weeks |
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| 01:31.20 | hardwire | fucking lua |
| 01:31.32 | hardwire | all leet hacker likes are luaist now |
| 01:31.48 | scanlime | no, only kergoth |
| 01:33.54 | hardwire | well scanlime .. even if its patterned |
| 01:34.02 | kergoth | hehe. its quite popular in the game community, and a few areas, but thats about it. |
| 01:34.03 | hardwire | your funky little monkey is so much more granular than ordered |
| 01:34.20 | hardwire | kergoth: somebody wants it in OE then? |
| 01:34.44 | hardwire | or are you a leet game haxor now |
| 01:34.51 | scanlime | hardwire: ordered dithers suck unless you're only concerned about speed or spatial locality |
| 01:35.31 | hardwire | but it looks so.. ordered |
| 01:35.48 | hardwire | actually this is apparently floyd |
| 01:36.05 | hardwire | I just read the code for PIL and thats the only dither it supports and no matter what you request it spits it out |
| 01:36.06 | hardwire | doh |
| 01:36.18 | scanlime | hah |
| 01:36.21 | scanlime | not surprising |
| 01:36.47 | hardwire | hmm.. our telcos DSL support finalyl got back to me |
| 01:36.50 | hardwire | 30 minutes from my leaving |
| 01:42.07 | kergoth | hardwire: i'd been using it for a number of things in the past, and indented to replace bitbake's python with lua when rewriting it, at least initially. more recently i've been playing games like world of warcraft, which use lua to script their UI. |
| 01:46.02 | file[laptop] | pagefault: Aliant is broken again |
| 01:46.23 | hardwire | kergoth: craaaazy craaaaaaaaaazy |
| 01:46.45 | hardwire | heh.. its funny to x2x to a machine running a caps/num/scroll lock notification daemon |
| 01:46.54 | hardwire | andhaving the kled's on your local workstation mimic it |
| 01:46.59 | hardwire | kled/led |
| 01:50.36 | hardwire | I |
| 01:50.39 | hardwire | should go now |
| 01:51.52 | scanlime | ugh |
| 01:51.54 | scanlime | I have zooming now |
| 01:52.01 | scanlime | and the implementation is awful, thanks to gnome-canvas |
| 01:52.12 | purple_cow | teehee |
| 01:54.26 | scanlime | I'm tired now. Time to go home and bang on CIA a bit :P |
| 01:54.30 | numist | one thing to note about civ4 is that it is very buggy |
| 01:58.55 | hardwire | scanline.. so I am going to just.. use a sin function.. the delta-sigma.. and just change the stepping through the sine wave to adjust it.. and not care about the sync. I do believe |
| 01:59.31 | file[laptop] | silly customers |
| 01:59.54 | file[laptop] | We encountered a Vital problem: VITAL reason: Do not honor. |
| 02:00.03 | file[laptop] | yeah, no wonder we didn't accept your payment... |
| 02:00.04 | file[laptop] | LOL |
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| 03:03.05 | purple_cow | :) |
| 03:27.11 | darth_mall | hmm... I don't think I payed much attention to that first episode the first time I watched it |
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| 03:33.44 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (5 files in 3 dirs): osx build changes |
| 03:36.49 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 03:36.57 | purple_cow | i was wondering how long it would be before someone mentioned google |
| 03:46.52 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9153 10xchat-gnome/web/love.shtml: irc:// is done |
| 03:51.30 | darth_mall | purple_cow: is there any reason we can't copy a lot of the stuff from our Initial Requirements Doc for this one? |
| 03:51.39 | purple_cow | darth_mall: nope |
| 03:51.52 | purple_cow | we should probably explain things in more detail |
| 03:52.30 | darth_mall | hmm... will it actually run in the latest stable build of looking glass now that we're using Text2D? |
| 03:52.31 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 03:53.22 | purple_cow | yep |
| 03:53.45 | darth_mall | I thought the Text2D widget was only in CVS |
| 03:53.47 | purple_cow | 0.7.1 was released last friday |
| 03:53.49 | darth_mall | oh |
| 03:53.50 | darth_mall | yay |
| 03:54.03 | ChipX86 | yay for apparently broken java packages on breezy |
| 03:55.10 | darth_mall | ChipX86: are there any other kinds of Java packages? |
| 03:55.23 | ChipX86 | actually I found out hte problem I think |
| 03:55.34 | ChipX86 | this was using the Blackdown one |
| 03:57.51 | darth_mall | arg |
| 03:58.04 | darth_mall | I'm struggling with how this document is any different from our first document |
| 03:58.25 | gonkulator | yay halloween |
| 04:02.27 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 04:02.29 | jbot | I never knew anyone who went crazy before, except for my invisible friend, Col. Schwartz. |
| 04:03.13 | numist | ~emulate stewie |
| 04:03.14 | jbot | Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. |
| 04:04.35 | purple_cow | darth_mall: it's not really any different |
| 04:04.50 | purple_cow | i think the biggest difference is that we'll want to write out things a little bit more in depth |
| 04:05.24 | kergoth | ChipX86: you have java working in breezy? i dont yet.. how? |
| 04:05.52 | ChipX86 | nope, didn't work |
| 04:05.58 | ChipX86 | have to build it using this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions |
| 04:08.09 | gonkulator | http://jurpa.us/images/costume-front.jpg |
| 04:08.16 | gonkulator | http://jurpa.us/images/costume-back.jpg |
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| 04:08.29 | lurgy | pffffff |
| 04:08.29 | lurgy | oh my |
| 04:08.40 | purple_cow | yay for buying halloween candy to not give out to kids |
| 04:08.43 | numist | yay |
| 04:09.05 | lurgy | yay candy |
| 04:09.09 | purple_cow | haha, i like the bruce lee guy |
| 04:09.17 | lurgy | gonkulator: ^_^ |
| 04:09.32 | gonkulator | lurgy: yeah, it went over well :) |
| 04:10.11 | gonkulator | howdy file[laptop] |
| 04:10.15 | file[laptop] | hi |
| 04:10.58 | gonkulator | file[laptop]: http://jurpa.us/images/costume-front.jpg |
| 04:11.25 | file[laptop] | I'm disturbed |
| 04:11.29 | file[laptop] | and wonder if you got Applecare. |
| 04:13.07 | gonkulator | oh! |
| 04:18.52 | purple_cow | <vektor> Clearly, the lesson is that gcc needs a new "-Owhatever" since that's what it seems to do anyway. |
| 04:21.41 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:31.07 | file[laptop] | ugh tired :\ |
| 04:37.43 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 04:37.51 | ChipX86 | I bet this is a gcc abi issue of some kind |
| 04:37.57 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9154 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (4 files): first steps towards background preferences |
| 04:38.05 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 04:38.08 | purple_cow | that's the best kind of issue |
| 04:47.05 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9155 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences-dialog.glade: finished UI |
| 04:47.41 | lurgy | hehe |
| 04:47.41 | lurgy | yay |
| 04:47.43 | scanlime | oh my |
| 04:47.45 | scanlime | this is a really silly bottle |
| 04:48.04 | scanlime | wow |
| 04:48.17 | scanlime | gonkulator: that's not the first ipod costume I've seen, but it certainly is the scariest |
| 04:49.27 | scanlime | purple_cow: so I just spent about an hour sitting on the floor at Borders in Palo Alto browsing through a really amazing book |
| 04:49.29 | scanlime | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0471443824/102-5878700-6126514?v=glance&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance |
| 04:49.47 | scanlime | and wow, amazon sure has it a lot cheaper than borders |
| 04:50.00 | purple_cow | scanlime: cool |
| 04:50.09 | purple_cow | hey look, it's from the CIA |
| 04:50.14 | scanlime | it has bread, pies, tarts, and all sorts of other stuff |
| 04:50.23 | scanlime | yep |
| 04:50.37 | hardwire | bleh |
| 04:50.49 | scanlime | it even has pecan pie- lots simpler-looking than I expected |
| 04:51.11 | gonkulator | scanlime: scariest? |
| 04:51.19 | scanlime | gonkulator: yes |
| 04:51.30 | hardwire | scanlime: hmm |
| 04:51.33 | gonkulator | why for scary? |
| 04:51.34 | scanlime | gonkulator: some clown at the UMC last year had an ipod costume too, but it looked better :) |
| 04:51.50 | hardwire | I had this amazing italian pastry desert the other day |
| 04:51.57 | hardwire | that would be wonderfull to know how to make |
| 04:52.07 | hardwire | it had some veggies and cheese in it |
| 04:52.12 | hardwire | almost like a gourmet hot pocket. |
| 04:52.22 | gonkulator | alright, bedtime |
| 04:52.24 | gonkulator | g'night everyone |
| 04:52.38 | scanlime | so.. I think after the gyro in my stomach settles a bit, I'm going to try some of this ridiculously-packaged chambord on some non-ridiculously-packaged ice cream :P |
| 04:52.57 | scanlime | I still can't believe how ridiculous that bottle is |
| 04:53.03 | hardwire | rawr? |
| 04:53.20 | purple_cow | :) |
| 04:53.34 | purple_cow | chambord is pretty ridiculously packaged |
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| 04:53.40 | scanlime | it's almost as bad as the fact that starbucks now makes a coffee liqueur |
| 04:53.50 | purple_cow | pour it into a spoon first, if you don't want to get it all over the place |
| 04:53.54 | scanlime | yeah |
| 04:54.05 | scanlime | haven't tasted it yet, but it sure smells wonderful |
| 04:55.12 | purple_cow | i've never had it in a drink, but it's wonderful in all manner of chocolate desserts :) |
| 04:56.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9156 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/preferences-page-plugins.c: typo |
| 04:57.58 | scanlime | ok, there's aren't any video rental places within a couple blocks, and I'm lazy |
| 05:01.12 | hardwire | scanlime: have you yet to use CONFIG_CPUSETS |
| 05:01.35 | purple_cow | man i love my glade macro |
| 05:01.37 | purple_cow | #define GW(name) ((page->name) = glade_xml_get_widget (xml, #name)) |
| 05:01.44 | purple_cow | it's so sexy |
| 05:05.11 | scanlime | hardwire: whabawho? |
| 05:05.34 | hardwire | have you used or read anything on the linux CPUSETS CPU partitioning support |
| 05:05.46 | scanlime | haven't heard of it |
| 05:05.50 | purple_cow | isn't that an SMP thing? |
| 05:05.57 | hardwire | yeh |
| 05:06.02 | hardwire | I thought he had an SMP xeon workstation |
| 05:06.10 | scanlime | at work |
| 05:06.17 | scanlime | all that really means to me is that I can compile twice as fast :P |
| 05:06.23 | hardwire | doh |
| 05:06.42 | scanlime | purple_cow: this is really good. I'm trying some disaronno next :) |
| 05:06.55 | purple_cow | told ya |
| 05:07.38 | purple_cow | i can imagine sundry combinations of different ice cream flavors & liquers |
| 05:08.23 | scanlime | even Starbucks Coffee Liquer? |
| 05:08.27 | scanlime | :P |
| 05:08.34 | scanlime | made from 100% real starbucks coffee! |
| 05:09.24 | purple_cow | haha |
| 05:09.30 | kergoth | yay disaronno |
| 05:09.33 | scanlime | now you just need to run the windows VM inside a java VM |
| 05:09.37 | kergoth | what is a chambord? what type of drink? |
| 05:09.38 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: Yahoo Pool with Jamie |
| 05:09.41 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep |
| 05:09.51 | purple_cow | kergoth: it's a french liquer made from black raspberries |
| 05:09.52 | ChipX86 | I believe we have a Remote Console in Java somewhere |
| 05:09.59 | kergoth | ooh. |
| 05:10.02 | kergoth | sounds yummy |
| 05:10.09 | scanlime | fucking crazy chambord bottle got my coaster all sticky |
| 05:10.14 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:10.21 | scanlime | kergoth: beware, it comes in a really stupid bottle that's hard to pour |
| 05:10.43 | purple_cow | looks fancy though |
| 05:11.58 | hardwire | aid-10 confuses me |
| 05:12.00 | hardwire | r |
| 05:12.42 | scanlime | it's twice as cool as raid-5 |
| 05:12.52 | hardwire | probably |
| 05:13.00 | hardwire | its raid-0 + raid-1 |
| 05:13.14 | hardwire | but on on;y two driiiives |
| 05:13.16 | hardwire | I dunno |
| 05:13.25 | scanlime | ooh.. disaronno + vanilla ice cream is great too |
| 05:13.27 | hardwire | I can't wait to get wikipediafs working |
| 05:13.35 | scanlime | but I used too much liquer for this amount of ice cream |
| 05:13.43 | scanlime | wikipediafs? |
| 05:14.00 | numist | ... |
| 05:14.05 | ChipX86 | ..? |
| 05:14.11 | numist | this cant be good |
| 05:15.07 | hardwire | sweet.. the 6300ESB has a watchdog |
| 05:17.04 | scanlime | only 2 days until I have the nightmare before christmas... |
| 05:18.21 | hardwire | <M> USB 2.0 SVGA dongle support (Net2280/SiS315) |
| 05:18.23 | hardwire | they have one at compusa |
| 05:18.27 | hardwire | I should check it out some day |
| 05:19.45 | scanlime | I've been meaning to check those out too.. I skimmed through the source to that driver, it's kinda interesting |
| 05:20.05 | numist | wait.. its a usb video card? |
| 05:20.06 | scanlime | basically looks like they rigged up kind of an ad-hoc USB to PCI bridge, then stuck a stripped-down SiS video chip on there |
| 05:20.11 | scanlime | numist: yes |
| 05:20.13 | numist | sweet! |
| 05:20.20 | numist | whats the cost on those things |
| 05:20.35 | scanlime | I should see if we can get some at work ;) |
| 05:20.44 | numist | yes, and you should tell me how well they work |
| 05:21.39 | scanlime | hmm, whoops.. helps if I mount the disks on navi and start smbd |
| 05:21.44 | numist | hah |
| 05:21.44 | purple_cow | nahhh |
| 05:22.36 | scanlime | purple_cow: I keep trying to picture how dark chocolate and chambord would taste. It sure sounds like they would be fabulous together |
| 05:22.40 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: nice! |
| 05:22.46 | purple_cow | ChipX86: it's just bmg, but still |
| 05:23.07 | numist | no response from uber yet.. Sophie197 | kergoth whats the normal turnaround time for them? |
| 05:23.37 | scanlime | aha, Memento |
| 05:24.53 | scanlime | a good movie, which also happened to destroy my disgust for Joe Pantoliano's acting skills |
| 05:24.54 | purple_cow | scanlime: http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/recipes/recipe/0,,FOOD_9936_19793,00.html <-- make that, except with chambord instead of hazelnut liqueur |
| 05:25.23 | purple_cow | it's really easy |
| 05:25.32 | scanlime | ooh |
| 05:25.47 | scanlime | I should do that this week |
| 05:25.54 | scanlime | I'm also tempted to try pecan pie now |
| 05:26.02 | scanlime | apparently the filling is mostly corn syrup and eggs :) |
| 05:26.07 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03jupiter * r9157 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (8 files in 2 dirs): more progress on the new page |
| 05:26.07 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:26.50 | scanlime | man, I thought Joe Pantoliano was such a crackhead after The Matrix |
| 05:26.52 | scanlime | worst actor in the movie |
| 05:27.00 | scanlime | which was impressive in a Keanu Reeves flick |
| 05:27.39 | numist | haha |
| 05:28.27 | hardwire | eww |
| 05:29.45 | scanlime | ? |
| 05:32.25 | scanlime | ow |
| 05:32.35 | scanlime | in the side! |
| 05:32.39 | hardwire | fucking fglrx |
| 05:32.46 | numist | :o |
| 05:37.36 | purple_cow | you and your cracks |
| 05:38.16 | lurgy | "don't leave now! the next piece is an atonal medley by philip glass!" |
| 05:40.16 | hardwire | you know who I love |
| 05:40.18 | hardwire | stan getz |
| 05:46.27 | darth_mall | purple_cow: do you think we should mention XMLTV and the tv_grab_* scripts in the software requirements for viewing TV shows with smrt? |
| 05:47.02 | purple_cow | darth_mall: no, that's a design issue |
| 05:47.12 | purple_cow | it's not that we have to use XMLTV, it's that we're choosing to use it |
| 05:47.21 | darth_mall | what about X? |
| 05:47.26 | darth_mall | also a design issue? |
| 05:47.56 | purple_cow | that we could technically list as either. ideally, it's a design issue, but the only native window integration backend they've got is for X |
| 05:49.17 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r486 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: |
| 05:49.17 | CIA-5 | smrt: Some small software requirements -- basically just a rewording of the Initial |
| 05:49.17 | CIA-5 | smrt: Requirements sans bullets. |
| 05:50.13 | purple_cow | i'd really like to get sun's comments on our requirements, but the foot-dragging on the review process is still a problem |
| 05:54.00 | purple_cow | i suppose we could send them a copy even though we're not "done" with the doc |
| 05:57.46 | darth_mall | we could, but it's getting so close to the due date for the Requirements Spec that we probably won't get feedback in time |
| 05:58.14 | darth_mall | I'm getting a little worried about our first two documents, since I haven't really heard anything about them in a while |
| 05:58.39 | purple_cow | yeah |
| 05:58.48 | purple_cow | at this point, that's happened so many times that i just don't care anymore |
| 05:59.16 | purple_cow | it's really not our fault if they drop the ball, and we've put in enough effort asking them if things are ok already :P |
| 05:59.44 | purple_cow | i get the feeling that brita is really not putting in very much time |
| 06:00.40 | darth_mall | me too |
| 06:01.17 | kergoth | wow, bogofilter sure puts spamassassin to shame, speed wise |
| 06:01.26 | kergoth | using the latter to train the former |
| 06:01.29 | hardwire | my buddy swears by dspam |
| 06:01.36 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r487 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: |
| 06:01.36 | CIA-5 | smrt: Regurgitated the bullets in the Hardware requirements from the last doc into a |
| 06:01.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: paragraph. |
| 06:01.43 | hardwire | I have yet to really have him set up a total solution for me |
| 06:03.06 | purple_cow | you can hear beckoning? |
| 06:03.32 | darth_mall | yep |
| 06:04.22 | darth_mall | goddammit |
| 06:04.44 | darth_mall | why does portage always want to upgrade this Class-MethodMaker package to the same version and then say it isn't upgraded? |
| 06:10.07 | purple_cow | that's not the problem |
| 06:10.14 | purple_cow | different things require different versions, and it's not slotted |
| 06:10.24 | purple_cow | so it keeps bouncing back and forth |
| 06:11.00 | darth_mall | you're right |
| 06:11.09 | darth_mall | I didn't notice the versions switching |
| 06:11.23 | darth_mall | dammit Perl! even when it's not your fault you mess up my life! |
| 06:21.31 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:21.43 | scanlime | svlug meeting wednesday |
| 06:23.36 | ChipX86 | oh, wednesday? cool |
| 06:24.02 | scanlime | then TMBG on thursday and friday! |
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| 06:34.06 | scanlime | aww |
| 06:34.11 | scanlime | christy is bein' all cute |
| 06:58.37 | CIA-5 | numi-misc: 03numist * r146 10lib/ (debug.php imagecreatefromfile.php): this is only a test |
| 06:58.56 | numist | yay everything works, I can go home now |
| 06:59.04 | numist | new svn server happiness |
| 06:59.07 | numist | with backups |
| 06:59.38 | slimspace | darth_mall, purple_cow: ok, so just so I'm clear, do we want to have a meeting tomorrow about this spec document? |
| 07:00.57 | slimspace | I don't think we have that much more to put in from the last document |
| 07:17.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/OSX/osxapp.cpp: file menu hooks |
| 07:33.51 | hardwire | goodness me |
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| 07:48.21 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (3 files in 2 dirs): file open for OSX |
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| 08:21.58 | purple_cow | argh |
| 08:22.06 | purple_cow | i just tried to eat my glasses and stick a grape tomato in my eye |
| 08:22.16 | ChipX86 | dare I ask? |
| 08:22.36 | purple_cow | well, i was trying to put on my glasses and eat a tomato... |
| 08:30.43 | scanlime | wow |
| 08:30.47 | scanlime | gyros machines are expensive |
| 08:31.10 | scanlime | $1000 on the cheap side if you want your own rotating meat |
| 08:38.01 | rioter | scanlime yeah :( i looked into buying one and a slurpee machine but the price was just to high |
| 08:38.41 | purple_cow | teehee, rotating meat |
| 08:39.51 | scanlime | hehe |
| 08:39.55 | scanlime | http://flapjack.navi.cx/~micah/lj/2005/11/cia-usage.png |
| 08:40.02 | scanlime | this has still got the pants scared off of me |
| 08:40.15 | scanlime | and I didn't get around to working on CIA at all tonight.. |
| 08:40.25 | scanlime | oh well. Tomorrow. |
| 08:40.44 | scanlime | at the latest, this weekend |
| 08:40.54 | scanlime | maybe we need to do another happy donuts hackfest |
| 08:41.40 | ChipX86 | ooh yes |
| 08:41.47 | ChipX86 | I'd be up for that |
| 08:44.05 | scanlime | hah |
| 08:44.16 | scanlime | they actually used the watermark |
| 08:44.29 | scanlime | does it only appear during boot, or does it come back periodically? |
| 08:44.33 | ChipX86 | boot |
| 08:44.41 | ChipX86 | we have a strict policy about no nagging |
| 08:44.58 | scanlime | yeah, it's just different than last time I looked at the code |
| 08:45.16 | scanlime | I bet we have a lot of users wondering how we added animated splashscreens to grub :P |
| 08:45.50 | scanlime | I doubt this is going to run well.. had to turn the guest's RAM down to 64MB to get it to boot on my lappy |
| 08:46.21 | scanlime | erf, getting really swappy |
| 08:52.38 | scanlime | man |
| 08:52.47 | scanlime | it's so nice seeing linux guest resizing Just Work |
| 08:53.36 | slimspace | vmware stretched over three screens |
| 08:53.46 | scanlime | ChipX86: nooooooooooooooooooo |
| 08:53.58 | scanlime | ChipX86: whoever set up this Browser Appliance VM configured USB all wrong |
| 08:54.33 | ChipX86 | I can give you the guy's name :) |
| 08:54.34 | scanlime | it only has EHCI and OHCI drivers |
| 08:54.39 | scanlime | vmware does UHCI, damnit |
| 08:54.44 | ChipX86 | we made him redo the VM several times |
| 08:55.25 | scanlime | ChipX86: I might bother you about that tomorrow, so I can file a bug ;) |
| 08:55.25 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 08:55.30 | ChipX86 | so guest resizing is working now? I haven't tried it |
| 08:55.40 | ChipX86 | with linux guests that is |
| 08:55.41 | scanlime | yeah, it Just Works with the browser appliance VM |
| 08:55.45 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 08:55.49 | scanlime | indeed |
| 08:55.53 | ChipX86 | I know Kelly and Philip have been hacking on it |
| 08:55.58 | ChipX86 | trying to get some extensions in X too |
| 08:56.00 | purple_cow | damned zookeeper |
| 08:56.01 | ChipX86 | right now we do nasty things |
| 08:56.03 | scanlime | that went in fairly recently too, I'm surprised to see it working so nicely already |
| 08:56.08 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 08:56.18 | scanlime | yeah, I heard about the nasty things |
| 08:56.30 | ChipX86 | heh Philip was grumbling about all these X bugs for a couple weeks while developing the patches needed to get that working in the X driver :) |
| 08:56.33 | scanlime | a lot of this linux guest resizing talk happened on mks-hackers |
| 08:56.37 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 08:56.39 | ChipX86 | I should go on that |
| 08:56.46 | scanlime | it's pretty quiet |
| 08:56.53 | scanlime | you should join usb-sensei |
| 08:56.54 | scanlime | and pi |
| 08:56.59 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:57.00 | ChipX86 | I should join a lot of things, just because |
| 08:57.06 | scanlime | pi is kinda high traffic |
| 08:57.13 | scanlime | usb-sensei is mostly just chris and I posting patches at each other |
| 08:57.27 | scanlime | although Patrick is starting to do some stuff on it |
| 08:57.53 | scanlime | so, blah |
| 08:58.08 | scanlime | not only is uhci-hcd not loaded, the module doesn't even exist |
| 08:58.40 | scanlime | does ubuntu put that in a separate package maybe, or did they just start removing kernel modules completely randomly to save space? |
| 08:58.48 | scanlime | why oh why remove uhci but not ohci and ehci? |
| 08:58.52 | scanlime | we'll never support ohci |
| 08:59.30 | scanlime | I wonder if they intentionally crippled USB on this VM for some reason :P |
| 09:00.14 | scanlime | oh well. I'd set up my own VM with regular ubuntu install, except this machine really doesn't have enough RAM to make vmware usable |
| 09:01.10 | scanlime | ooh... |
| 09:01.13 | scanlime | that's right |
| 09:01.16 | scanlime | I'm back on 192MB |
| 09:01.27 | scanlime | I forgot the second SODIMM in this lappy fried a while back |
| 09:01.44 | purple_cow | yay fry |
| 09:01.53 | scanlime | this laptop is almost as fast as Strong Bad's |
| 09:03.27 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2232 10libgalago/ (14 files in 2 dirs): The end of an era. All D-BUS 0.23.x code is gone. libgalago now requires D-BUS 0.36 or higher. I'm sure this will inconvenience some people, but it's needed for progress to be made. |
| 09:05.46 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2233 10galago-daemon/ (12 files in 3 dirs): Require D-BUS 0.36 or higher. |
| 09:08.09 | scanlime | hahaha |
| 09:08.13 | scanlime | the Ronja project is on CIA now |
| 09:08.14 | scanlime | neat |
| 09:09.26 | purple_cow | ronja? |
| 09:10.46 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2234 10libgalago/ (13 files in 2 dirs): Remove galago-dbus-compat.h. |
| 09:11.16 | scanlime | optical long-distance 10 megabit link, easy to build from commonly available parts |
| 09:11.48 | scanlime | basically a big cluster of LEDs pointed at a photodiode, with some analog goop to modulate a 10baseT ethernet signal |
| 09:13.43 | scanlime | ChipX86: vmware player doesn't do background restore? |
| 09:14.09 | ChipX86 | should |
| 09:14.26 | ChipX86 | dunno. I thought it did, but maybe not |
| 09:14.34 | scanlime | maybe the little pre-restore phase on this laptop takes as long as the entire restore does at work :P |
| 09:14.40 | scanlime | yep, that's it |
| 09:14.45 | scanlime | heh |
| 09:14.48 | ChipX86 | background restore takes *forever* on my boxes |
| 09:15.06 | scanlime | you obviously don't run enough VMs on your boxes, they aren't used to it :) |
| 09:15.39 | scanlime | ah, it does the watermark once on restore too |
| 09:16.03 | scanlime | Nolan was telling me about that little project back when I interviewed with vmware |
| 09:16.24 | ChipX86 | I want to do some advanced watermark projects |
| 09:16.28 | ChipX86 | I have.. plans.. |
| 09:17.04 | scanlime | purple_cow: shortly after you power on or resume vmware player, a vmware logo fades in then out in the center of the screen |
| 09:17.26 | scanlime | I remember Nolan going to quite a lot of trouble to implement it efficiently in a way that didn't corrupt the guest's video :P |
| 09:18.27 | scanlime | so basically we don't use it for much now, but our code is capable of compositing on top of the guest |
| 09:18.38 | purple_cow | loopy time |
| 09:18.43 | scanlime | =D |
| 09:18.52 | scanlime | but first, bedtime |
| 09:20.59 | purple_cow | 'night |
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| 16:04.23 | pagefault | http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2005-01-10&res=l |
| 16:04.24 | pagefault | haha |
| 16:04.58 | pagefault | hello file |
| 16:04.59 | pagefault | what is up |
| 16:05.05 | file | oh not much, et tu? |
| 16:05.14 | pagefault | getting ready to go to clas |
| 16:05.19 | pagefault | err |
| 16:05.19 | pagefault | class |
| 16:05.24 | file | yuck class |
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| 16:53.44 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9158 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/ (button_mouseover.svg linked_lessons.svg new_lesson.svg): Change the buttons along the top. |
| 17:05.26 | kergoth | bleh |
| 17:05.28 | kergoth | google hates me today |
| 17:05.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9159 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/ (linked_lessons.svg new_lesson.svg): |
| 17:05.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Remove the new lesson example since we don't really need it. Redo the example |
| 17:05.47 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: linked lesson to show the new way of doing things. |
| 17:06.38 | darth_mall | kergoth: >< |
| 17:09.24 | kergoth | mm, poe |
| 17:09.39 | file | power over enterwebbing? |
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| 17:32.29 | file | Cae~ |
| 17:32.30 | file | er |
| 17:32.31 | file | Cae! |
| 17:33.00 | kergoth | morning cae |
| 17:33.07 | Cae | morning |
| 17:33.40 | file | kergoth: how is the job search progressing? |
| 17:46.54 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/vc71/mapedit.ico: update windows icon to be the same as OSX icon |
| 17:51.49 | kergoth | damn you undefined references. damn you! nm says the symbols are in that library, use them. fuckers. |
| 17:53.07 | numist | kergoth: whats the normal email turnaround time for the uber people? |
| 17:53.38 | kergoth | iirc it took a few days for me |
| 17:57.26 | numist | alrighty |
| 18:05.03 | numist | eww |
| 18:05.16 | gonkulator | eww is right |
| 18:14.30 | kergoth | damnit. this link command works flawlessly for the .a, but not if it uses the .so, and they both have the symbols. |
| 18:14.50 | file | I threatened to delete our intranet if it didn't work, and it suddenly started working - SWEET! |
| 18:15.10 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:28.52 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/world.cpp: call the base constructor for objects ALL the time |
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| 19:44.25 | hardwire | wonderfull |
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| 19:45.28 | file | I swear people can't think |
| 19:46.06 | hardwire | you too? |
| 19:47.58 | hardwire | everybody is mad at me for my lack of maintainence. |
| 19:48.12 | hardwire | but.. I can't do much about a sat dish blowing over 1000+ miles away from me. |
| 19:48.16 | hardwire | one I didn't install. |
| 19:52.02 | hardwire | I wish it were a wave |
| 19:52.03 | hardwire | but no |
| 19:52.18 | hardwire | fox piss and wind have slowly damned the dish |
| 19:54.50 | file | hardwire: I just put something really nice in my SIP channel driver |
| 19:54.56 | file | hardwire: read/write locks :) |
| 19:55.14 | hardwire | file: whats that help with? |
| 19:55.28 | file | deadlocks |
| 19:55.38 | hardwire | ohheh |
| 19:55.48 | hardwire | your guys project swimming along? |
| 19:55.51 | file | yup |
| 19:55.57 | hardwire | you ever giong to make an uber replacement for IAX? |
| 19:56.06 | file | that would be difficult |
| 19:56.10 | hardwire | probably |
| 19:56.15 | hardwire | I love trunking |
| 19:56.24 | hardwire | it saves sooo much bandwidth |
| 19:57.06 | hardwire | 2.6.14 is working so well on my laptop |
| 19:57.19 | hardwire | its nice that it has basically all the things I needed inside of itself. |
| 19:57.44 | file | I'm trying to make this totally threadsafe with minimal potential for deadlocks |
| 19:58.03 | hardwire | you guys find a timer source yet? |
| 19:58.12 | hardwire | gonna be hard.. so many people use SMP Xeons |
| 19:58.28 | file | I use a poor man's timer, gettimeofday |
| 19:58.34 | hardwire | not the timer interrupt? |
| 19:58.46 | scanlime | hey, gettimeofday() ain't too bad |
| 19:58.52 | scanlime | it looks great after working with windows :P |
| 19:58.58 | hardwire | hh |
| 19:58.58 | file | scanlime: I know |
| 19:59.00 | hardwire | err |
| 19:59.19 | file | I can use zaptel timing under low loads |
| 19:59.31 | file | but the trick is I'd have to have a file descriptor open for every call :( |
| 19:59.32 | hardwire | I may not fully understand.. but does rtc.ko and genrtc.ko intercept gettimeofday() functions? |
| 20:00.09 | scanlime | you get a /dev/rtc |
| 20:00.18 | hardwire | and a choice to use it. |
| 20:00.20 | hardwire | gotcha |
| 20:03.40 | kergoth | <Tain> +Oh dear gods. Someone has a murloc tattoo in one of the blizzcon pictures. |
| 20:04.10 | file | mmm swaplock |
| 20:06.36 | hardwire | thats like kissin in a back seat right? |
| 20:06.47 | hardwire | err.. thats swapspit |
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| 20:08.36 | Cae | back later |
| 20:09.37 | hardwire | file: I need to map a button that people can press to register they just dropped a call I think |
| 20:09.44 | hardwire | that way I know if oops.. I did that |
| 20:10.06 | file | lol |
| 20:10.43 | hardwire | they typicalyl tell me an hour later |
| 20:10.48 | hardwire | which is no use |
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| 20:11.05 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (3 files in 2 dirs): save dialog for OSX |
| 20:11.51 | file | aha... |
| 20:15.18 | file | yay rewriting stuff |
| 20:17.43 | file | no more global lock when doing call slots |
| 20:19.04 | hardwire | I should use real routers some day. |
| 20:19.27 | file | hardwire: you'll like this... when you do a "show channels" it actually locks the entire channel list |
| 20:19.42 | hardwire | file: but it can't do hangups during that time |
| 20:19.45 | hardwire | I would assume |
| 20:20.00 | file | it also locks each individual channel momentarily :) |
| 20:20.13 | hardwire | so if i had something show channels (non event) as fast as possible.. I could extend the billed seconds :) |
| 20:21.51 | file | :) |
| 20:23.29 | ChipX86 | you know what's really fun? |
| 20:23.41 | ChipX86 | spending a couple hours repairing your filesystem |
| 20:23.48 | file | :( what happened? |
| 20:23.58 | ChipX86 | laptop hard-locked and this time the filesystem freaked out |
| 20:24.09 | ChipX86 | didn't manage to lose anything I don't think |
| 20:24.09 | file | eep |
| 20:24.10 | hardwire | doh |
| 20:24.13 | ChipX86 | recovery tools did their job |
| 20:24.13 | hardwire | ChipX86: what fs? |
| 20:24.16 | ChipX86 | reiser |
| 20:24.22 | hardwire | I like reiser |
| 20:24.27 | ChipX86 | I've had the same issues with ext3 though |
| 20:24.29 | hardwire | but I have had to do more repair on reiser than ext3 and xfs |
| 20:24.54 | file | it's a rule not to use reiser at work, we've all had problems |
| 20:24.55 | hardwire | there are less repair tools available for it |
| 20:25.24 | file | oh looksee, new FreeBSD site |
| 20:27.49 | purple_cow | haha |
| 20:28.04 | purple_cow | this year, among the 10 worst jobs in science, kansas biology teacher is #3 |
| 20:28.17 | ChipX86 | file: I blame the laptop more than reiser in this case :) |
| 20:28.30 | ChipX86 | I *should* get the new one today or tomorrow |
| 20:28.32 | hardwire | purple_cow: ? |
| 20:28.46 | numist | ? |
| 20:29.07 | purple_cow | hardwire: every year, popular science publishes a list |
| 20:29.42 | purple_cow | for example, #10 is orangutan pee-collector |
| 20:30.56 | darth_mall | purple_cow: =D |
| 20:31.12 | ChipX86 | scanlime: are you getting e-mails? |
| 20:31.27 | scanlime | yes |
| 20:31.40 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 20:31.42 | ChipX86 | a lot of us aren't |
| 20:32.43 | hardwire | purple_cow: terrible |
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| 20:47.34 | kergoth | :) thats how my iriver is too |
| 20:47.35 | kergoth | its nice |
| 20:47.37 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 20:47.41 | jbot | It'll be a good chance to get away from the evil monkey that lives in my closet. |
| 20:53.57 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/OSX/ (5 files in 3 dirs): string changes to make it say bzedit not mapedit |
| 20:56.39 | Veight | yay! Nine Inch Nails |
| 20:57.56 | ChipX86 | scanline: QA is getting desperate for bugs :) |
| 20:58.16 | ChipX86 | "The EULA's text wraps in gnome-terminal on SuSE but not on Red Hat!" |
| 20:58.40 | scanlime | yup |
| 20:58.54 | ChipX86 | are you guys seeing that on ID? |
| 20:59.44 | scanlime | yeah, we really don't have any serious USB bugs.. not sure about the rest of ID |
| 20:59.59 | scanlime | we've been getting some weird ones that QA has only seen once and can't reproduce, for example |
| 21:00.07 | scanlime | or bugs on really odd devices |
| 21:00.43 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 21:00.45 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 21:00.50 | ChipX86 | yay 5.5 |
| 21:00.55 | scanlime | yeah |
| 21:01.01 | ChipX86 | damn good release |
| 21:04.50 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:04.50 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: derive draw info from the base, |
| 21:04.50 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: use some GL lists |
| 21:21.04 | hardwire | neat |
| 21:21.12 | hardwire | google failure -> I'm Feeling Lucky |
| 21:27.02 | CIA-5 | Ace: 03kergoth * r399 10/branches/stdlib/ (. lua51/): stdlib: Create a branch to make stdlib work under Lua 5.1. |
| 21:44.54 | hardwire | I need a 900-1400mhz spectrum analizer w/ a serial interface that can work over v.90 |
| 21:52.26 | scanlime | yay, coffee and skittles |
| 21:52.33 | scanlime | best lunch ever |
| 21:52.47 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:54.09 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.11 | scanlime | grr |
| 21:54.17 | scanlime | http://blog.outer-court.com/archive/2005-10-09-n36.html |
| 21:54.30 | scanlime | I really need to learn to not paste without explicitly doing a 'copy' |
| 22:03.16 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 22:03.27 | ChipX86 | gtkmm is being problematic |
| 22:04.54 | ChipX86 | spent the past hour writing code that I now have to scratch |
| 22:05.09 | file | :( |
| 22:05.20 | file | ChipX86: you're making me have unhappy faces so much today |
| 22:05.32 | ChipX86 | why? |
| 22:05.46 | file | mmm who knows |
| 22:06.08 | ChipX86 | it's typical programming problems. Nobody died :) |
| 22:06.24 | file | your code died! |
| 22:06.42 | ChipX86 | well, yes |
| 22:06.58 | scanlime | hmm |
| 22:07.04 | scanlime | I wonder why patrick sent this latest review only to me |
| 22:07.38 | file | I wonder what performance/deadlock issues would happen if I converted OpenPBX to using read/write locks |
| 22:08.27 | scanlime | goddamnit |
| 22:08.30 | scanlime | dead bug in my coffee |
| 22:08.37 | file | ewww yuck |
| 22:08.41 | ChipX86 | ew |
| 22:09.19 | hardwire | scanlime: put it under a microscope and see if it came from Sout America |
| 22:12.13 | hardwire | so poss camps starband is dead |
| 22:12.15 | hardwire | wrong window |
| 22:12.35 | file | hardwire: it's dead Jim! |
| 22:13.45 | scanlime | hardwire: it probably wouldn't be intact and floating on top if it came in with the coffee grounds |
| 22:15.14 | file | ugh |
| 22:15.51 | hardwire | http://www.pc-oscilloscopes.com/Bitscope/Bitscope_Software.htm |
| 22:15.56 | hardwire | I wonder if thats worth a shit |
| 22:16.14 | hardwire | scanlime: mexican jumping bean bugs. |
| 22:16.24 | scanlime | I want a bitscope, it looks like a really cool project |
| 22:16.35 | hardwire | I feel bad for what I want it for |
| 22:16.41 | hardwire | nobody on the island can read a scope |
| 22:16.45 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:16.48 | hardwire | and i need them to basically let me have control |
| 22:16.52 | hardwire | so I can align the dishes |
| 22:16.57 | hardwire | and diagnose cableing issues |
| 22:17.01 | hardwire | but tahts it |
| 22:17.07 | hardwire | not for logic probing.. although I would find a reason |
| 22:17.18 | scanlime | you need a hardware scope for that? I'd think you could ask your receiver hardware to give you eye diagrams and such |
| 22:17.20 | hardwire | this delta sigma modulator is kicking ass |
| 22:17.24 | scanlime | cool |
| 22:17.35 | hardwire | scanlime: starband sat dish |
| 22:17.40 | numist | so apparently I'm back in college now |
| 22:17.43 | hardwire | and diagnosing cable tv lines |
| 22:17.47 | hardwire | no hardware to output.. anything |
| 22:17.49 | scanlime | numist: congrats! |
| 22:17.53 | numist | thanks |
| 22:17.57 | scanlime | hardwire: ah, fun |
| 22:18.00 | hardwire | numist: shacka ka! |
| 22:18.11 | hardwire | scanlime: it actually will be |
| 22:18.18 | numist | shackalacka |
| 22:18.29 | hardwire | I am snagging my buddy from yellow dog linux days (black dog linux) and he will be on the island |
| 22:18.32 | numist | still not sure how I feel about it until I have the quarter paid off though |
| 22:18.36 | hardwire | soon I will have smart people to help me |
| 22:18.46 | hardwire | once that happens.. my IQ should go back up |
| 22:18.52 | numist | ... |
| 22:19.01 | scanlime | hardwire: cool :) |
| 22:19.15 | hardwire | scanlime: don't patronize :) |
| 22:19.46 | scanlime | :P |
| 22:19.51 | hardwire | http://www.pc-oscilloscopes.com/3000.htm |
| 22:19.51 | hardwire | wow |
| 22:20.06 | hardwire | now to find out what the lowes baud would be |
| 22:20.09 | hardwire | lowest |
| 22:20.43 | *** join/#tacobeam rioter (n=rar@dsl-220-253-69-201.NSW.netspace.net.au) |
| 22:20.54 | hardwire | the bitscope would be fine |
| 22:21.00 | hardwire | I need to make a feild kit for this shit |
| 22:21.12 | hardwire | I have a lot of pelican cases.. I think I should snag another toughbook and get this scope |
| 22:21.25 | hardwire | http://www.pc-oscilloscopes.com/Bitscope/Bitscope_BS50U.htm |
| 22:21.26 | hardwire | oh how cute |
| 22:22.18 | hardwire | going to bneed a 900-1400mhz block down converter |
| 22:24.07 | scanlime | ooh |
| 22:24.08 | scanlime | I want one :( |
| 22:24.43 | hardwire | aww |
| 22:24.48 | hardwire | they are all at a conference in vegas |
| 22:24.51 | hardwire | so nobody can answer me |
| 22:24.51 | hardwire | :( |
| 22:24.54 | scanlime | that's so cute |
| 22:25.09 | hardwire | I am going to see if the picoscope can do what I need as well |
| 22:25.16 | scanlime | and bitscope still seems to be quite open with their interface standards |
| 22:25.19 | scanlime | so they have linux software |
| 22:25.35 | hardwire | thats a plus |
| 22:26.39 | hardwire | F*CKL%^# |
| 22:26.45 | hardwire | they starband modem was turned off |
| 22:26.48 | hardwire | two days.. |
| 22:27.00 | hardwire | I should learn to ask these things first. |
| 22:28.11 | file | hardwire: it's always the stupidest thing |
| 22:28.18 | file | same thing happened to me today |
| 22:28.53 | hardwire | you took a shower but forgot to turn on the water? |
| 22:29.11 | file | nah |
| 22:29.36 | file | support agent couldn't figure out that in order for someone to have 5 system menus, you have to give them 5 system menus |
| 22:29.50 | file | it took a tech, me, to teach them that... |
| 22:29.54 | hardwire | http://www.pc-oscilloscopes.com/40_42.htm |
| 22:29.54 | file | and yet I know they'll be back again |
| 22:29.56 | hardwire | scanlime: ^^^^ |
| 22:29.57 | hardwire | holy crap |
| 22:30.16 | scanlime | heh |
| 22:30.24 | scanlime | that's cute.. but I'd get the BS50U :P |
| 22:30.35 | hardwire | yeh its cute. |
| 22:30.47 | hardwire | they don't seem to want to support that anymore |
| 22:36.10 | Veight | mmm food |
| 22:45.57 | hardwire | how much is cable modem service |
| 22:45.59 | hardwire | ... |
| 22:46.02 | hardwire | how the fuck should I know |
| 22:46.23 | hardwire | I just got done explaining to you how "you" can go find out |
| 22:46.34 | hardwire | numist: no shootings! |
| 22:46.38 | numist | too late |
| 22:46.43 | hardwire | I dodged bitch. |
| 22:46.52 | numist | better start getting nervous |
| 22:47.10 | hardwire | you can't hit me if I wiggle. |
| 22:47.19 | hardwire | I am a wiggle machine. |
| 22:47.24 | hardwire | like my washing machine |
| 22:47.46 | hardwire | which I have ratchet strapped to my dryer.. yet it still walks 2 feet tot he left |
| 22:50.03 | hardwire | scanlime: you know what would be a fun use of gnome-canvas |
| 22:50.11 | scanlime | egg drop? |
| 22:50.12 | hardwire | if you were to get side-work porting the picoscope software |
| 22:50.22 | hardwire | or atleast getting the spec |
| 22:52.46 | hardwire | hmm.. I need to send 12v @ 18volt selectable up the line I am probing in most cases |
| 22:57.33 | hardwire | http://www.bitscope.com/product/BS440/ |
| 22:57.35 | hardwire | that kinda fucking rules |
| 22:59.42 | darth_mall | wow |
| 22:59.44 | darth_mall | what a great e-mail |
| 22:59.56 | darth_mall | The Office of Science has selected 16 research papers to be reviewed and possibly published in Volume 6 of the DOE's Journal of Undergraduate Research. Your paper was not selected |
| 23:00.15 | hardwire | what paper was the DOE interested in? |
| 23:00.26 | darth_mall | something I had to write for my internship last summer |
| 23:00.29 | darth_mall | it was terribly boring |
| 23:00.31 | hardwire | well |
| 23:00.34 | hardwire | aren't you special :) |
| 23:00.36 | hardwire | congrats |
| 23:00.43 | hardwire | its nice to be noticed |
| 23:00.46 | darth_mall | so special they didn't want my paper |
| 23:00.51 | hardwire | thats why I can't wrap up everything I want to say in one IRC line. |
| 23:01.24 | hardwire | being only 10 out of 16 isn't so terrible :) |
| 23:02.09 | darth_mall | I just find if funny that they felt the need to e-mail me to say they weren't interested in my paper |
| 23:03.46 | hardwire | but the guy never shipped me the parabolic dish it attaches to |
| 23:06.42 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 23:06.46 | purple_cow | i should make peanut butter cups |
| 23:06.57 | scanlime | mmm |
| 23:06.58 | purple_cow | get some primo chocolate from my mom, and some of that crazy organic peanut butter... |
| 23:07.08 | scanlime | and coffee |
| 23:07.38 | hardwire | I made chili last night |
| 23:08.04 | darth_mall | grr |
| 23:08.11 | darth_mall | stupid AI homework being all not-worky |
| 23:08.12 | hardwire | I decided to see if organic would be at all usefull in this .. and made a pot with 2x more than standard meat and spices. |
| 23:08.27 | hardwire | with 2x/worth 2x more |
| 23:08.50 | hardwire | I really couldn't tell the difference.. the big test was to see if the g/f had tummy issues with it. |
| 23:08.58 | hardwire | and she didn't .. so this is the new recipe |
| 23:09.01 | hardwire | just a lot more expensive. |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r488 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-5 | smrt: A brief description of what "supporting environment" means, mostly copied from |
| 23:18.00 | CIA-5 | smrt: initial requirements doc. |
| 23:21.59 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r489 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: documentation items |
| 23:23.15 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (n=itodd@chargedsoftware.com) |
| 23:25.07 | scanlime | mwahaha |
| 23:25.13 | scanlime | this is now even slower and more memory hungry! |
| 23:25.18 | ChipX86 | awesome. Ship it |
| 23:25.28 | scanlime | but it has an incredibly useful feature now |
| 23:25.38 | kergoth | bleh |
| 23:25.48 | scanlime | and it has a progress bar :) |
| 23:25.48 | numist | what feature is this? |
| 23:25.53 | scanlime | diff |
| 23:26.44 | numist | you must be in windows because linux has diff already >_> |
| 23:26.51 | scanlime | no, I'm in linux |
| 23:28.00 | purple_cow | woo, looks like gnome 2.13.1 doesn't break anything serious! |
| 23:30.32 | scanlime | yay.. |
| 23:30.54 | scanlime | 4 threads, 100% of both CPUs, 250MB of RAM and climbing |
| 23:31.10 | ChipX86 | did we decide we're doing a hackfest soon? |
| 23:31.26 | scanlime | mebbe |
| 23:31.38 | scanlime | I have concerts to go to thursday/friday, but I'm pretty open otherwise |
| 23:31.45 | darth_mall | haha |
| 23:31.54 | ChipX86 | going to SVLUG tomorrow? |
| 23:31.54 | darth_mall | I just found a video of Thriller animated with legos |
| 23:31.57 | darth_mall | it's great |
| 23:32.54 | purple_cow | damnit, bmg wants to upgrade me to glade-3, which is kind of kerbroke |
| 23:33.06 | scanlime | ChipX86: yeah, I think so |
| 23:33.55 | scanlime | http://navi.cx/~micah/diff-mode.png |
| 23:34.25 | scanlime | this rocks so much |
| 23:34.35 | scanlime | it levelled out at 350MB of RAM :) |
| 23:43.07 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r490 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: Dispaly requirements and a description of what Functional Requirements is. |
| 23:44.12 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r491 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: sentence about release |
| 23:45.08 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r492 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: another sentence, why not |
| 23:46.51 | darth_mall | I like how this document is pretty much identical to our Initial Requirements doc right now |
| 23:47.57 | numist | is there a way to set up samba so you dont have to have all your users type in their passwords again? why cant it just use the fucking /etc/passwd file |
| 23:48.10 | scanlime | it can |
| 23:49.30 | purple_cow | http://www.livejournal.com/users/jackwilliambell/86072.html |
| 23:50.59 | hardwire | oh thank god.. they ran phone wire with cat-5e |
| 23:51.04 | hardwire | this is going to make my job a lot easier |
| 23:56.24 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r493 10docs/requirements/requirements.tex: User Interaction and spell check. |
| 23:58.03 | purple_cow | oh |
| 23:58.06 | purple_cow | use make spellcheck :) |
| 23:58.13 | purple_cow | it's easier to remember |
| 23:58.51 | purple_cow | oops |
