| 00:00.00 | pagefault | I just "didn't do well at school" |
| 00:00.04 | numist | I'm hyper all the goddam time |
| 00:00.06 | pagefault | so apparently drugs can fix that |
| 00:00.06 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 00:00.14 | ChipX86 | some negative reviews about the iAudio X5 that concern me |
| 00:00.18 | numist | ChipX86: like? |
| 00:00.37 | Sophie197 | me either. I got "space-cadet" "head in the clouds" "absent-minded professor" "different drummer".. all that crap. |
| 00:00.41 | ChipX86 | it says navigation sucks and you must carry an adapter around to charge or use it as a host |
| 00:00.59 | Sophie197 | esp "not working up to potential" |
| 00:01.01 | numist | I guess you're still hyper, its just in your head |
| 00:01.14 | numist | yeah, I get not working up to potential a lot.. and I can see how its true |
| 00:01.19 | numist | but I... can't |
| 00:01.22 | pagefault | well |
| 00:01.34 | Sophie197 | when I think about something, everything else is kindof shut off. |
| 00:01.39 | pagefault | some days I just want to punch the doctor in the fact |
| 00:01.41 | pagefault | err face |
| 00:01.44 | pagefault | who said I had ADD |
| 00:01.57 | file | pagefault: I can never imagine you doing violent stuff like that after meeting you twice :P |
| 00:02.22 | file | would be amusing though |
| 00:02.25 | pagefault | i'm sure if all they did was pop some anti-depressant in me |
| 00:02.27 | pagefault | I would have been fine |
| 00:02.41 | scanlime | ChipX86: uh oh, regis knows I'm the CIA guy now |
| 00:02.44 | pagefault | but no |
| 00:02.47 | pagefault | they put me on the kiddle speed |
| 00:02.49 | pagefault | err kiddie |
| 00:02.53 | ChipX86 | scanlime: I told him :( sorry |
| 00:02.56 | ChipX86 | what'd he say? |
| 00:03.03 | scanlime | hehe |
| 00:03.12 | scanlime | he was just wondering about linking commits back to diffs |
| 00:03.13 | pagefault | file, haha |
| 00:03.18 | pagefault | my dinner is coming soon |
| 00:03.19 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 00:03.22 | pagefault | I ordered at 7:48 |
| 00:03.25 | pagefault | guaranteed in 40 min |
| 00:03.26 | file | yay |
| 00:03.32 | scanlime | so I told him that we support that, as long as the client can send us a URL for each change |
| 00:03.37 | Sophie197 | all the doctors want to give me anti-depressants too. But if I'm depressed, it's because I'm not working up to potential. |
| 00:03.41 | scanlime | someone just has to implement this in the CVS client |
| 00:03.45 | Sophie197 | that and most of the world is stupid. |
| 00:03.51 | pagefault | I wish people didn't do online ordering |
| 00:03.52 | darth_mall | it's a good thing these kids prepared for their presentations... |
| 00:03.57 | pagefault | it's so effortless compared to phone ordering |
| 00:04.45 | numist | darth_mall: sarcasm? |
| 00:05.19 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: you have a X5, right? |
| 00:05.48 | Sophie197 | mmm braaains... |
| 00:06.00 | file[laptop] | yay development meeting over |
| 00:06.34 | file[laptop] | pagefault: Aliant is b0rken again |
| 00:06.52 | numist | is there a way to edit what appears in right click menus in windows? |
| 00:06.59 | numist | I want to get rid of a few items that I never use |
| 00:07.30 | darth_mall | ChipX86: I do |
| 00:07.37 | file[laptop] | woot 50ms ping time to 'da nameserver |
| 00:07.44 | ChipX86 | mind giving me a mini-review? |
| 00:08.18 | darth_mall | ChipX86: by and large I'm very happy with it |
| 00:08.34 | darth_mall | the power switch has started sticking a bit, I think because I sweated into it while working out |
| 00:08.47 | darth_mall | I could live without the video playback, but that's not an option |
| 00:08.57 | Sophie197 | maybe I'll go off and think about more sexy stuff |
| 00:09.00 | darth_mall | the UI is kinda ugly, but usable |
| 00:09.05 | numist | noo, share the sexy stuff |
| 00:09.08 | numist | oh well |
| 00:09.14 | numist | a teddy bear? :o |
| 00:09.29 | file[laptop] | you better believe it |
| 00:10.03 | file[laptop] | pagefault: I'm expecting an e-mail tonight with the new server info |
| 00:10.07 | numist | thats dangerout |
| 00:10.09 | numist | dangerous |
| 00:10.14 | pagefault | file neat |
| 00:10.40 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: how annoying is the attachment for charging? |
| 00:11.04 | scanlime | ChipX86: we have a pile of ipods up here... |
| 00:11.31 | numist | hah |
| 00:12.30 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:12.32 | ChipX86 | free? |
| 00:12.54 | darth_mall | ChipX86: it really scared me when I first got it, because it feels very flimsy |
| 00:12.57 | scanlime | I just know we have a pile of ipods |
| 00:13.00 | darth_mall | like it could easily snap off |
| 00:13.07 | darth_mall | but so far it hasn't been a problem |
| 00:13.20 | ChipX86 | some people seem to really dislike the UI |
| 00:13.34 | ChipX86 | I need to buy a new player now. Not sure if I want to go this route or not. I was all psyched about it |
| 00:13.37 | scanlime | ChipX86: you should get one of those itunes phones! |
| 00:13.45 | darth_mall | I just leave it plugged into the power adapter on my desk, and then plug my X5 in when I get home |
| 00:13.49 | ChipX86 | scanlime: ick |
| 00:13.55 | numist | ChipX86: just get an ipod |
| 00:14.01 | ChipX86 | I have a lot of music in oggs |
| 00:14.42 | numist | bah, transcode them.. ogg is a lost cause |
| 00:15.17 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 00:15.21 | darth_mall | ChipX86: the UI is ugly and cluttered, but I pretty much just choose an album and then ignore it |
| 00:16.01 | darth_mall | heh... I don't think this kid understands the difference between glade and GTK |
| 00:16.08 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: if you were buying a player all over again, would you get this one or another one? |
| 00:16.24 | darth_mall | ChipX86: dunno, not sure if there's anything new out that would catch my fancy |
| 00:16.27 | darth_mall | but I don't regret the purchase |
| 00:16.58 | scanlime | you could get another of those :) |
| 00:16.59 | ChipX86 | my rio is dead |
| 00:17.01 | ChipX86 | no :P |
| 00:17.03 | darth_mall | >< |
| 00:17.14 | ChipX86 | I am very unimpressed with the durability of that scroll wheel |
| 00:17.20 | numist | ChipX86 seems to have issues with what seems to work fine for everyone else.. from rio to ibm |
| 00:17.35 | scanlime | the ipods really do have the cutest hardware... I wonder if those firmware replacement projects are usable yet |
| 00:17.41 | numist | Chip must be The One, where all the edge cases accumulate |
| 00:17.46 | file[laptop] | numist: lol |
| 00:17.50 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:17.52 | ChipX86 | scanlime: tempting |
| 00:18.06 | numist | thats a great idea.. I wasnt aware there was good ipod firmware replacement around |
| 00:18.12 | numist | thats a worthy cause |
| 00:18.17 | scanlime | I'm not sure if they're good yet :P |
| 00:18.28 | darth_mall | wow... he's trying to explain the theory behind boxes and packing in gtk... |
| 00:18.30 | scanlime | I know there is a project out there, and it works for some people |
| 00:18.33 | numist | I can deal in the meantime |
| 00:18.34 | darth_mall | he kind of gets it, I think |
| 00:18.37 | scanlime | I think it lags behind a couple generations in hardware support |
| 00:18.50 | numist | I'm sure it does |
| 00:19.02 | numist | and I'd be likely to buy a nano, given the disposable cash |
| 00:19.11 | numist | theyre exactly what Ive been waiting around for |
| 00:19.13 | darth_mall | eww |
| 00:19.19 | scanlime | we have a nano here... |
| 00:19.22 | numist | eww all you want |
| 00:19.22 | scanlime | it's very tiny |
| 00:19.27 | numist | yes, a friend of mine here has one |
| 00:19.32 | scanlime | but with that little storage I'd really want wireless sync |
| 00:19.39 | numist | the click wheel is less precise than Id hoped, but besides that its great |
| 00:20.00 | numist | true, but wireless is another big chip to fit in that cramped package |
| 00:20.21 | ChipX86 | scanlime: have them buy an iAudio X5 for "testing" so I can play with it |
| 00:20.29 | scanlime | nah, I'm sure someone makes an 802.11 + 3 ARM cores + DSP chip :P |
| 00:20.41 | scanlime | ChipX86: file a SR against it and that might happen |
| 00:20.49 | numist | nano is 3 arm cores? |
| 00:20.53 | numist | thought it was just 2 |
| 00:20.57 | numist | thats hot |
| 00:20.59 | scanlime | you'd need another for the wireless :) |
| 00:21.02 | numist | ah |
| 00:21.05 | numist | indeed |
| 00:21.10 | darth_mall | booooooored |
| 00:21.27 | scanlime | numist: most bluetooth chips are actually ARM cores with some radio hardware and a few *megabytes* of firmware memory |
| 00:21.43 | ChipX86 | I wish the X5 showed files by ID3 tag rather than filename |
| 00:21.43 | scanlime | like I said, the spec is overengineered |
| 00:21.59 | numist | wow, thats handy, scanlime |
| 00:22.21 | numist | no kidding |
| 00:22.27 | scanlime | well, it's not like they're generally reprogrammable |
| 00:22.36 | numist | nod |
| 00:22.44 | scanlime | Cambridge Silicon Radio is the big name in bluetooth cores, and their dev kit is something like $5000 |
| 00:22.56 | numist | dang |
| 00:23.10 | numist | so... waiting on donations from CIA to buy you one? >_> |
| 00:23.12 | scanlime | typically you just get their chips with pre-made firmware, either implementing an HCI interface or something simple like bluetooth audio |
| 00:23.20 | scanlime | heheh |
| 00:23.37 | numist | maybe vmware will get you one so you can use it to test all sorts of edge cases |
| 00:23.56 | scanlime | you joke about that... |
| 00:24.01 | numist | not really |
| 00:24.04 | numist | it would save on hardware |
| 00:24.12 | scanlime | we actaully do have a lot of USB dev hardware here |
| 00:24.14 | numist | you buy one bluetooth widget instead of a ton that youll never use |
| 00:24.23 | numist | :) |
| 00:24.38 | scanlime | yeah, except we're not really debugging bluetooth |
| 00:24.42 | scanlime | we're debugging USB |
| 00:24.53 | scanlime | so it isn't the bluetooth devices that trigger our bugs, it's the dongle |
| 00:25.01 | numist | you'll find something |
| 00:25.08 | scanlime | we only have a few bluetooth devices for testing... |
| 00:25.16 | numist | yeah, you need more |
| 00:25.18 | scanlime | a couple phones (which we had anyway for USB sync issues) and mouse/keyboard |
| 00:25.44 | scanlime | perry's been using the shiny new Treo as a personal phone after he had to use his SIM card in it for testing :) |
| 00:26.34 | scanlime | oh nooo |
| 00:26.40 | scanlime | someone borrowed the USB analyzer back from me |
| 00:26.48 | numist | :o |
| 00:27.47 | scanlime | it's a good thing we're ordering more of these things |
| 00:29.24 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: does it come with the LCD remote? |
| 00:29.43 | numist | if you get the nano, it *is* an lcd remote |
| 00:29.45 | numist | :P |
| 00:30.35 | darth_mall | ChipX86: nope |
| 00:30.38 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 00:30.54 | ChipX86 | can't charge from USB while playing music? meh |
| 00:31.10 | ChipX86 | oh well |
| 00:31.15 | ChipX86 | still tempted |
| 00:31.35 | ChipX86 | the lack of an ID3 tag database is what's largely making me consider finding something else |
| 00:32.00 | darth_mall | just name your files consistently |
| 00:32.56 | ChipX86 | I loved my rio. If I could find one real cheap, I'd get another one of those |
| 00:33.07 | darth_mall | wow... this guy does lo-fi prototypes in blender |
| 00:33.27 | scanlime | UI prototypes? |
| 00:33.30 | darth_mall | yep |
| 00:33.32 | numist | wow |
| 00:33.32 | scanlime | hah |
| 00:33.39 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 00:33.39 | darth_mall | at least, that's what he's presenting on |
| 00:34.23 | scanlime | ok, all this #FF0000 is hurting my eyes |
| 00:34.29 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 00:34.56 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 00:35.01 | ChipX86 | it does use ID3 tags for the Now Playing screen |
| 00:35.04 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r435 10prototype/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Directory navigation works now. Enter zooms into a directory, ESC backs out. Also primitive zooming animation. |
| 00:35.30 | darth_mall | ChipX86: yeah |
| 00:35.30 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r436 10prototype/data/menus/video.menu: Oops, didn't mean to commit that |
| 00:35.50 | ChipX86 | looks like it's quite customizable |
| 00:36.12 | ChipX86 | have you tried lyrics support? |
| 00:36.25 | darth_mall | "blender is the vi of 3d rendering software"... |
| 00:36.31 | numist | haha yay Carrie has a webcam now |
| 00:36.35 | numist | I could get used to this |
| 00:36.38 | darth_mall | eww |
| 00:36.46 | numist | darth_mall: it does text editing too |
| 00:37.20 | numist | Squeesh |
| 00:37.57 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: can you do wacky symlink stuff? |
| 00:38.23 | ChipX86 | for creating different ways to navigate the music? |
| 00:39.56 | darth_mall | ChipX86: never tried |
| 00:46.31 | ChipX86 | the rio is kind of working again |
| 00:47.34 | numist | damn |
| 00:47.50 | ChipX86 | it's messing with me |
| 00:48.47 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r437 10prototype/src/tv/ (Tv.java XMLTV.java XMLTVHandler.java): Gotta have a way to get to the channel list after parsing the XML. |
| 00:49.49 | ChipX86 | hmm, X5L is $30 more for another 20 hours of battery. Somehow, though, I think I can find a way to charge it in that 20 hours |
| 00:51.02 | darth_mall | heh |
| 00:51.48 | ChipX86 | and then there's iRiver to consider |
| 00:52.03 | ChipX86 | but probably not |
| 00:53.19 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r438 10prototype/src/tv/XMLTV.java: Return an ArrayList of channels from XMLTV.getListings |
| 00:53.32 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:53.32 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: fix parser to deal with trailing whitespace |
| 00:53.32 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: fix object search functions to return valid objects |
| 00:53.32 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add gl transforms for affine transform stack |
| 00:53.32 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: add drawing of instanced groups ( yay recursion ) |
| 01:02.24 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r439 10prototype/src/menu/ (CityLayout.java FilesystemCity.java): Zooming to all! |
| 01:02.27 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r440 10prototype/src/tv/Channel.java: Access channel names. |
| 01:04.37 | file[laptop] | one of my friends is having his high school "too much work, I'm graduating, need to apply" break down |
| 01:05.02 | numist | nice |
| 01:06.02 | scanlime | oh, I should be leaving |
| 01:06.04 | scanlime | hmm |
| 01:08.19 | ChipX86 | home I go |
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| 01:10.41 | laodamas | I misjudged the dynamic friction coefficient of dry leaves on gravel while making a sharp corner |
| 01:11.36 | numist | excellent |
| 01:11.43 | numist | yes, theyre quite slippery |
| 01:14.01 | laodamas | It's the kind of accident that makes you feel good inside |
| 01:14.55 | darth_mall | laodamas: ouch >< |
| 01:16.08 | laodamas | I only lost about three square inches of skin. It's only a flesh wound after all :P |
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| 02:06.35 | ChipX86 | yay, home |
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| 02:28.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r441 10prototype/src/menu/ (CityLayout.java FilesystemCity.java): Disable sublevel population in threads for the moment. It's horribly b0rd |
| 02:38.48 | kergoth | [1. General] [Palapsis]: can someone co-sign a mount for me |
| 02:41.13 | purple_cow | ya know |
| 02:41.26 | purple_cow | ripping a record is a lot trickier than ripping a CD |
| 02:41.37 | numist | hah, yes |
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| 03:07.40 | kergoth | ChipX86: http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/Desktop/sshot12.png |
| 03:10.39 | ChipX86 | WoW barely worked with cedega when I tried it :( |
| 03:10.51 | kergoth | you tried it? |
| 03:10.58 | kergoth | i get frame rates as high or higher than windows most of the time |
| 03:11.02 | ChipX86 | yeah, before moving to windows |
| 03:11.09 | ChipX86 | eventually I might try again |
| 03:11.09 | kergoth | look at the buff i have in that screenshot. |
| 03:11.15 | ChipX86 | but I have no need to make this a linux box |
| 03:11.21 | numist | suckage |
| 03:12.39 | kergoth | mm |
| 03:17.02 | purple_cow | argh |
| 03:17.08 | purple_cow | i finally get it recorded, and audacity crashes |
| 03:17.19 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 03:26.23 | ChipX86 | darth_mall: ping |
| 03:26.34 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: that might take awhile |
| 03:26.41 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 03:49.17 | numist | kergoth: do you have the new gorillaz album? |
| 03:49.37 | numist | never mind! |
| 03:51.05 | kergoth | yep, good stuff |
| 03:51.05 | kergoth | k |
| 03:51.24 | ChipX86 | what media players do people here have? |
| 03:51.34 | kergoth | hardware or software? |
| 03:51.39 | ChipX86 | hardware |
| 03:51.43 | file[laptop] | I have an iPod. |
| 03:51.45 | kergoth | iRiver h320 |
| 03:51.45 | ChipX86 | and I'm mainly interested in ogg-capable ones |
| 03:51.57 | ChipX86 | s/mainly/only/ |
| 03:52.02 | file[laptop] | haha |
| 03:52.07 | file[laptop] | what about the Neuros? |
| 03:52.12 | nullpuppy | no ogg though :( |
| 03:52.40 | numist | god damnit |
| 03:52.49 | file[laptop] | $299.99 for an 80GB Neuros 2 with carrying case |
| 03:53.00 | numist | no spaces in names? ugh |
| 03:53.04 | file[laptop] | that's the only thing that comes to mind |
| 03:53.23 | kergoth | numist: you can have spaces in names, you just have to be careful about escaping |
| 03:53.40 | numist | yeah, and I'm not, apparently |
| 03:54.12 | numist | hrm... |
| 03:54.28 | ChipX86 | file[laptop]: hmmm |
| 03:54.40 | ChipX86 | ogg? |
| 03:54.44 | file[laptop] | it has ogg |
| 03:54.50 | file[laptop] | it's firmware is open source too |
| 03:55.01 | file[laptop] | that's why it came up in my mind |
| 03:57.25 | numist | its open source? |
| 03:57.36 | numist | how easy is it to build your own and such? |
| 03:57.38 | ChipX86 | bet the OS sucks then |
| 03:57.40 | file[laptop] | http://open.neurosaudio.com/ |
| 03:57.40 | numist | and use it I mean |
| 03:57.46 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: it was originally closed |
| 03:57.48 | numist | ChipX86: I could say the same about linux :P |
| 03:57.50 | ChipX86 | or the UI maybe |
| 03:58.30 | file[laptop] | poor Chip, will you ever find something that just works right for you and lasts? |
| 03:58.35 | ChipX86 | nope |
| 03:58.38 | ChipX86 | never |
| 03:58.45 | file[laptop] | well atleast your life will be interesting |
| 03:58.49 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 03:58.49 | numist | well, if the firmware is open, then its just a matter of finding the hardware |
| 03:59.40 | file[laptop] | ChipX86: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/review/neuros_hd20gb_mp3_digital_audio_computer_review |
| 03:59.47 | file[laptop] | they have pics! |
| 03:59.56 | ChipX86 | http://www.dapreview.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=3&page=2 |
| 04:00.14 | kergoth | ugly ui |
| 04:00.17 | kergoth | wonder how usable it is |
| 04:00.58 | file[laptop] | I have 18 Nagios notifications |
| 04:00.58 | numist | thats a pretty ugly player too |
| 04:01.09 | ChipX86 | yeah... |
| 04:02.14 | kergoth | gah |
| 04:02.20 | kergoth | firefox crashed again |
| 04:02.25 | kergoth | iriver.com this time |
| 04:02.32 | kergoth | i swear, it crashes 3 or 4 times a day |
| 04:02.55 | file[laptop] | do companies purposely e-mail you in the middle of the night just to annoy you? |
| 04:03.04 | numist | kergoth: use the beta? its been pretty stable here |
| 04:03.46 | numist | wow thats a big unit... |
| 04:03.53 | file[laptop] | the network just fixed itself, another 18 e-mails |
| 04:03.57 | numist | 5.3" by 3.1" by 1.3" |
| 04:04.41 | ChipX86 | think I'll just get the X5 |
| 04:04.47 | ChipX86 | once it dies I'll look for the next thing |
| 04:05.13 | file[laptop] | be optimistic |
| 04:05.25 | ChipX86 | I am being optimistic |
| 04:05.50 | file[laptop] | hrm, be more optimistic? |
| 04:06.11 | numist | nah, thats as good as it gets for chippy |
| 04:06.15 | nullpuppy | who was the X5 by again? |
| 04:06.17 | numist | theres a reason he doesnt have a car.. it wouldnt last |
| 04:06.20 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 04:06.24 | ChipX86 | everything breaks on me |
| 04:06.28 | ChipX86 | watches break |
| 04:06.31 | numist | I cant see how.. you're so genteel |
| 04:06.46 | ChipX86 | I have no idea. It's been this way my whole life. I'm not rough on my devices |
| 04:06.59 | ChipX86 | well, except I dropped the rio, but it was 1.5 feet onto carpet |
| 04:07.09 | file[laptop] | a new episode of Futurama tomorrow night? uh, how is there a new episode... |
| 04:07.57 | numist | non-square pixels on the neuros |
| 04:08.08 | numist | 128x128 on a 2" 4:3 rect |
| 04:08.17 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 04:08.40 | file[laptop] | so the X5 fo shizzle? saweet |
| 04:08.44 | numist | ChipX86: 'but it was (only) 1.5 feet onto carpet' |
| 04:08.46 | numist | hah |
| 04:08.46 | ChipX86 | I guess |
| 04:08.48 | ChipX86 | we'll see |
| 04:09.39 | nullpuppy | ChipX86: who makes the X5 again? |
| 04:09.44 | ChipX86 | iAudio |
| 04:10.11 | nullpuppy | ah, thanks |
| 04:12.17 | file[laptop] | I can hear snoring from upstairs |
| 04:12.20 | file[laptop] | it's... loud |
| 04:14.30 | ChipX86 | heh woops |
| 04:14.46 | ChipX86 | almost checked out. Then I realized I was ordering the X5L, not the X5. Yay for saving $40 |
| 04:14.52 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:15.59 | ChipX86 | orderated |
| 04:16.28 | file[laptop] | yay |
| 04:19.16 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 04:19.21 | ChipX86 | I reloaded Planet GNOME |
| 04:19.27 | numist | ... |
| 04:19.29 | ChipX86 | "Just got my iAudio x5 30GB "MP3" player in the mail. The sound quality, the video quality, the size, the codecs it supports. This device is simply amazing. If anyone is in the market for a new player, I highly recommend it." -- Dom Lachowicz |
| 04:19.37 | file[laptop] | lol |
| 04:19.43 | file[laptop] | creepy |
| 04:19.44 | ChipX86 | weird coincidence |
| 04:19.48 | numist | nice |
| 04:24.22 | nullpuppy | "Be nice to the cripple, show him some nipple" |
| 04:24.33 | numist | ... |
| 04:24.59 | nullpuppy | hmm, the iaudio x5 would be $55 then the zen touch i bought |
| 04:25.05 | nullpuppy | hehe, watching Mind of Mencia |
| 04:25.58 | nullpuppy | oooh, supports -q10 ogg and flac though |
| 04:25.59 | nullpuppy | damn |
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| 04:39.42 | numist | ChipX86: the neuros has a built in fm transmitter! |
| 04:39.44 | numist | :o |
| 04:39.50 | numist | with signal gain adjustment |
| 04:43.59 | ChipX86 | numist: yep |
| 04:44.08 | numist | thats hot, man |
| 04:45.10 | kergoth | damn, that is cool. |
| 04:45.12 | purple_cow | i think i'm going to apply for that vmware position and see where things go from there |
| 04:45.38 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: :) |
| 04:45.38 | kergoth | fucking freenode |
| 04:46.07 | kergoth | :( |
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| 04:48.49 | numist | hey now.. working on it |
| 04:49.20 | purple_cow | if they offer me a job with a hefty salary *and* they'll pay for an MS, that might be too sweet a deal to pass up |
| 04:49.42 | ChipX86 | they'll pay up to a certain amount per semester |
| 04:49.50 | ChipX86 | actually, you pay, and they reimburse if you don't fail |
| 04:50.05 | ChipX86 | so classes will take a while, since you can't really do a full-time job and a full load at schoo |
| 04:50.08 | ChipX86 | er, school |
| 04:50.11 | JayPee | ChipX86: yo |
| 04:50.13 | ChipX86 | hey |
| 04:50.15 | JayPee | scanlime around? |
| 04:50.20 | ChipX86 | he's at a concert |
| 04:50.26 | ChipX86 | Jamie and I are going to play bzflag |
| 04:50.31 | JayPee | Ah yes |
| 04:50.34 | JayPee | awwright |
| 04:50.50 | JayPee | I'm pulling an allnighter tonight (not particularly by choice), so I was going to ask re: donuts |
| 04:51.08 | JayPee | but, it just happened that I'm doing that tonight; I'd rather be at a concert or playing bzflag. ;-) |
| 04:51.16 | ChipX86 | ARGH |
| 04:51.18 | ChipX86 | why did bzflag die |
| 04:52.14 | file[laptop] | I give up, goodnight all |
| 04:55.12 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yeah, that's pretty common. i'll just have to ask some questions, since there's a difference between "paying for some classes" and "paying for a degree" |
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| 04:59.49 | ChipX86 | tada! |
| 04:59.58 | ChipX86 | damnit |
| 05:00.13 | ChipX86 | ubuntu broke my bzflag somehow |
| 05:00.17 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:00.26 | ChipX86 | all opengl stuff broke |
| 05:02.00 | ChipX86 | linux-gate.so.1 => (0xffffe000) |
| 05:02.02 | ChipX86 | what is that? |
| 05:02.20 | purple_cow | it's like a heaven's gate |
| 05:05.05 | ChipX86 | argh |
| 05:06.55 | ChipX86 | ARGH |
| 05:07.13 | ChipX86 | why is bzflag now insisting that my only possible display options are a small window or a massively huge maximized screen? |
| 05:07.52 | ChipX86 | nm |
| 05:07.55 | ChipX86 | i'm an idiot |
| 05:12.07 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r442 10prototype/data/menus/arc-menu.menu: add a bunch more items |
| 05:12.28 | numist | no you arent |
| 05:15.32 | purple_cow | ooh. i can see the chip on the disk that burnt |
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| 05:49.40 | purple_cow | evenin' lurgy |
| 05:50.35 | lurgy | hiya |
| 05:53.51 | purple_cow | "this one really makes my fish egg dreams come true" |
| 06:01.09 | lurgy | hehe |
| 06:01.33 | ChipX86 | numist: yeah I was. I kept selecting the full-screen video modes, and of course that didn't help. Then I realizedd I just never hit maximize :) |
| 06:02.35 | numist | thats not stupid, just temp. absentminded |
| 06:02.47 | ChipX86 | oh, ok |
| 06:03.01 | ChipX86 | what do you call temporary absentmindedness when it's always there? :) |
| 06:03.18 | numist | george bush |
| 06:03.21 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 06:03.25 | ChipX86 | good answer :) |
| 06:03.30 | numist | next question :) |
| 06:05.24 | purple_cow | what is the magnetic flux of an unripe banana? |
| 06:05.33 | ChipX86 | "I was most amused by the fact that she lives in a place called the Enchanted Broccoli Forrest." |
| 06:05.35 | numist | brazilian or african? |
| 06:05.42 | numist | er.. south american, rather |
| 06:06.19 | purple_cow | silly japanese and their polite, uncomfortable clapping |
| 06:06.34 | numist | purple_cow: I'd have to say 42 |
| 06:06.45 | numist | (note the lack of units) |
| 06:08.15 | nullpuppy | "but you're better then normal! you're abnormal!" |
| 06:09.57 | numist | best $50 I ever spent, ChipX86 |
| 06:10.15 | numist | and as I say it, the connection dies |
| 06:10.16 | numist | wtf |
| 06:10.23 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 06:11.56 | numist | msn |
| 06:12.26 | nullpuppy | yay fudge |
| 06:12.42 | nullpuppy | *time |
| 06:13.25 | purple_cow | mmm fudge |
| 06:13.41 | purple_cow | so apparently i'm making not one but *two* pies this thanksgiving... |
| 06:14.10 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:14.27 | nullpuppy | you should make three, and send me one :) |
| 06:14.33 | ChipX86 | four |
| 06:14.40 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 06:14.40 | purple_cow | :) |
| 06:15.02 | purple_cow | so ChipX86 |
| 06:15.14 | purple_cow | when my resume is acceptable, what do i do with it? |
| 06:15.30 | ChipX86 | send it to whoever contacted you |
| 06:15.49 | numist | *cough* |
| 06:15.49 | nullpuppy | what if no one contacted me? |
| 06:16.00 | ChipX86 | they'll set up the next step, which should be getting someone to look at it and then someone should contact you about an interview |
| 06:16.08 | ChipX86 | assuming they didn't already say they wanted an interview |
| 06:16.25 | purple_cow | ChipX86: well, i got this email, but it's just a generic recruitment thing |
| 06:17.06 | ChipX86 | nod. It means they found you connected to some project and so the recruiter should have some idea as to what you work on there |
| 06:17.20 | purple_cow | they found me connected to some university CS department mailing list :P |
| 06:17.28 | numist | heh |
| 06:17.28 | ChipX86 | oh really? |
| 06:17.33 | ChipX86 | figured it was from open sourcfe |
| 06:17.35 | ChipX86 | -f |
| 06:17.51 | purple_cow | yes. i figure there's got to be a better way to get my name in ;) |
| 06:18.10 | ChipX86 | you should see about having scanline put you in the database |
| 06:18.18 | purple_cow | ok |
| 06:18.21 | ChipX86 | I'd gladly do it, but wouldn't want to take the referral from scanline |
| 06:18.59 | numist | wow, you actually typed out scanline |
| 06:19.08 | numist | totally used to tabcompleting that |
| 06:23.42 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 06:23.46 | purple_cow | i need a pair of cooking chopsticks |
| 06:24.21 | numist | Ive got some |
| 06:26.21 | ChipX86 | in python, what type is True and False? |
| 06:26.39 | numist | boolean? |
| 06:27.04 | ChipX86 | hmm, well the list for format strings for wrappings doesn't offer a format character for boolean |
| 06:27.22 | purple_cow | ChipX86: they're basically just static objects |
| 06:27.29 | ChipX86 | ahh ok |
| 06:27.55 | purple_cow | err, i guess the class is 'bool' |
| 06:28.10 | purple_cow | but there's one object for each of those |
| 06:28.18 | purple_cow | >>> True.__class__ |
| 06:28.18 | purple_cow | <type 'bool'> |
| 06:28.27 | ChipX86 | interesting. I wonder how that works here |
| 06:31.59 | ChipX86 | huh |
| 06:32.12 | ChipX86 | it's actually represented in the python bindings api as an int |
| 06:32.26 | purple_cow | err, it is? |
| 06:32.42 | ChipX86 | maybe it does some kind of weird conversion? |
| 06:33.00 | ChipX86 | the pygtk stuff uses i and sets a gboolean directly |
| 06:33.21 | purple_cow | err, i guess technically it's a PyIntObject |
| 06:33.33 | purple_cow | but there are Py_True and Py_False macros that you should use instead |
| 06:34.38 | ChipX86 | yeah. I'm seeing some use that and some use int. I'll use the object stuff |
| 06:35.37 | purple_cow | i think the only reason int works is because the python runtime keeps some static objects around for small integers |
| 06:35.45 | purple_cow | which is why you can do things like "if blah is 1:" |
| 06:35.50 | numist | that webcam was a great idea.. I should have bought that years ago |
| 06:36.06 | numist | anyway, time for bed |
| 06:37.37 | ChipX86 | numist: cool :) |
| 06:37.39 | ChipX86 | g'night |
| 06:39.38 | ChipX86 | meh, some of these aren't documented |
| 06:39.48 | purple_cow | that makes it more fun! |
| 06:48.25 | ChipX86 | I was looking at old docs |
| 06:49.54 | ChipX86 | of course, this thing is still not documented |
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| 06:53.49 | ChipX86 | gah |
| 06:53.57 | ChipX86 | I think Alex got me sick |
| 06:56.24 | purple_cow | :( |
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| 07:01.08 | purple_cow | argh |
| 07:01.18 | purple_cow | so i'm supposed to analyze some conflict for this homework |
| 07:01.30 | purple_cow | but i can't think of a real-life conflict i've really seen recently :P |
| 07:01.34 | purple_cow | everyone's been getting along |
| 07:01.48 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: you suck and I hate your mailbox |
| 07:02.02 | purple_cow | :( |
| 07:02.34 | ChipX86 | no help? |
| 07:03.02 | purple_cow | not really |
| 07:03.06 | rioter | purple_cow want me to start hating you and then i can give you conflict? |
| 07:03.07 | ChipX86 | :/ |
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| 07:03.52 | rioter | i would want a cookie in return |
| 07:04.34 | purple_cow | rioter: you and i aren't really interdependent |
| 07:04.35 | ChipX86 | hrm, this is definitely not working right |
| 07:04.53 | rioter | i could marry you if we moved to canada |
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| 08:04.57 | scanlime | that was fun |
| 08:05.38 | scanlime | purple_cow: the space grant folks have plenty of conflict :) |
| 08:09.49 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 08:10.49 | scanlime | purple_cow: I was tempted to do that, but it's prolly too late for all the nearby liquor emporiums |
| 08:10.54 | scanlime | and I should sleep soon |
| 08:10.57 | scanlime | hmm |
| 08:11.02 | purple_cow | scanlime: well, i've got more than half this bottle left ;) |
| 08:11.12 | scanlime | purple_cow: so my dircproxy log doesn't go back far enough, but you're thinking about vmware again? |
| 08:11.16 | scanlime | :) |
| 08:11.23 | scanlime | guess I'll have to try it in a few days |
| 08:11.40 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah. i think i'm going to just put in my name for a real job, and then figure out what to do if they offer |
| 08:11.46 | scanlime | cool |
| 08:11.48 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/ (mapedit.cpp worldIO.cpp worldRender.cpp): |
| 08:11.48 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: boxes need to draw bzflag style, not the more logical style |
| 08:11.48 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: get the affine transforms in the right order |
| 08:11.48 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: get groups to render with the stuff in the right place |
| 08:11.53 | scanlime | like I said, worst case you'll get a free trip to CA :) |
| 08:12.05 | purple_cow | having a full-time job with a company that would pay for the MS might be too sweet to pass up |
| 08:12.14 | scanlime | yup |
| 08:12.38 | ChipX86 | and there are worst places to work |
| 08:12.52 | purple_cow | ooh, another gem of a quotation from iron chef |
| 08:12.59 | ChipX86 | scanlime: you should see if you can get his name in the queue, even if he has been contacted already |
| 08:13.02 | purple_cow | "you always want to get pre-chernobyl wines" |
| 08:13.29 | scanlime | purple_cow: hah |
| 08:13.44 | scanlime | ChipX86: I assume there's some referral info on vmweb? |
| 08:13.51 | ChipX86 | probably |
| 08:13.54 | purple_cow | apparently the vineyard in question was in the alps, right where the wind blew the fallout |
| 08:14.02 | purple_cow | but taken out of context, it's a great quote |
| 08:14.04 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: so you'd want to work on the UI? |
| 08:14.08 | purple_cow | ChipX86: yep |
| 08:14.10 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 08:14.13 | ChipX86 | here's what I'll do |
| 08:14.20 | ChipX86 | I'll put your name in, but I'll say it's scanline's referral |
| 08:14.22 | purple_cow | lunix UI, not windows |
| 08:14.27 | ChipX86 | and that I'm just passing it along for him |
| 08:14.28 | scanlime | ChipX86: that works :) |
| 08:14.43 | scanlime | speaking of... you should have got your money for me a couple days ago |
| 08:14.51 | ChipX86 | hmm haven't yet |
| 08:14.59 | ChipX86 | might on the next pay period |
| 08:15.01 | scanlime | well, they might round to the next pay period |
| 08:15.07 | scanlime | nod |
| 08:15.23 | scanlime | bah. I wish I'd remembered earplugs |
| 08:16.24 | scanlime | purple_cow: aw, you and ChipX86 will be able to gang up on me now. I'm the only one in our little group that works in vmx-land |
| 08:16.30 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:16.36 | ChipX86 | we'll have to hire someone else from here |
| 08:16.54 | purple_cow | mmm. i loves chambord |
| 08:16.55 | scanlime | actually... |
| 08:17.05 | scanlime | purple_cow: if you ever feel like 3D work, there's some to be had |
| 08:17.05 | nullpuppy | i wouldn't mind :) |
| 08:17.24 | nullpuppy | although, i have absolutely no experience in that area... |
| 08:17.25 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 08:17.29 | purple_cow | scanlime: i think that 3d work would probably be a little lower level than i'm familiar with |
| 08:20.44 | scanlime | purple_cow: once we fix all the USB bugs (which is bound to happen any day now ;) we might have more people working on X11 stuff :) |
| 08:21.11 | scanlime | but.. I guess unless you want to hack up mesa or xorg, you'd have more fun in UI |
| 08:21.45 | scanlime | yep.. all alone in vmx-land |
| 08:22.12 | scanlime | I'll be the only one complaining about timers and memory mappings! |
| 08:22.14 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 08:22.20 | purple_cow | i'm applying for the UI job ;) |
| 08:22.23 | scanlime | you folks will be all complaining about widgets and stuff |
| 08:22.36 | scanlime | and we'll all complain about the build system when JayPee is around |
| 08:22.39 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: you'd work either under Jocelyn or under Rob. Both are awesome. Rob works under Jocelyn |
| 08:22.42 | ChipX86 | scanlime: yep :) |
| 08:22.50 | purple_cow | i'm sure there's interesting work elsewhere, but for now, UI sounds fun |
| 08:22.54 | scanlime | nod |
| 08:23.00 | scanlime | it's easy to poke around in other stuff if you feel like it |
| 08:23.03 | purple_cow | and direct3d makes me grumpy |
| 08:23.08 | scanlime | indeed |
| 08:23.15 | ChipX86 | UI is more of a challenge than it sounds |
| 08:23.19 | ChipX86 | UI means more than just the UI |
| 08:23.27 | ChipX86 | I thought it would be boring |
| 08:24.13 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 08:25.36 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2213 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.defs src/galago.override): |
| 08:25.36 | CIA-5 | galago: - Strip the "galago_" prefix from some galago.* functions. |
| 08:25.37 | CIA-5 | galago: - Make the feed parameter on galago.init() default to False. |
| 08:26.14 | purple_cow | huh, stewed duck feet |
| 08:27.14 | scanlime | ok, I should try to get some sleep.. hopefully the ringing in my ears doesn't keep me awake |
| 08:27.27 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2214 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-core.c libgalago/galago-core.h): |
| 08:27.27 | CIA-5 | galago: - Removed galago_init_with_mainloop(). |
| 08:27.29 | CIA-5 | galago: - Properly reset _core to NULL when finalizing GalagoCore. |
| 08:39.57 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2215 10galago-python/ (ChangeLog src/galago.defs): |
| 08:40.00 | CIA-5 | galago: Strip the "galago_" prefix from several more functions. This leaves some |
| 08:40.01 | CIA-5 | galago: functions as "galago.core_get_service" and such, which I'd love to clean up, but |
| 08:40.03 | CIA-5 | galago: it may wait for some changes in libgalago to allow multiple independent |
| 08:40.05 | CIA-5 | galago: connections. |
| 08:42.42 | purple_cow | teehee, natto |
| 08:42.54 | purple_cow | what a ridiculously gross looking ingredient |
| 08:50.29 | ChipX86 | woops |
| 08:50.44 | ChipX86 | if you forget the shebang at the top of a python script, you get a lot of screenshots taken.. |
| 08:51.17 | purple_cow | haha |
| 08:57.22 | ChipX86 | why is the pygtk bindings claiming it doesn't understand GList*.. |
| 08:57.27 | ChipX86 | works for everything else :( |
| 09:26.10 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2216 10galago-python/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 09:26.10 | CIA-5 | galago: - Wrap galago_presence_get_statuses(). I'll do more functions later. |
| 09:26.10 | CIA-5 | galago: - Added the get-presence.py test app. It works! |
| 09:26.33 | ChipX86 | think I'll just work from home tomorrow |
| 09:26.40 | ChipX86 | I'm going to be dead again |
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| 14:25.34 | kergoth | blehhh |
| 14:30.17 | file[laptop] | kergoth! |
| 14:32.15 | kergoth | hey |
| 14:35.08 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 14:35.11 | jbot | ACTION hacks on bitbake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus, and other projects |
| 14:35.25 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 14:35.26 | jbot | ACTION Ooh look, shiny! Erm, I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was. |
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| 16:40.12 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=545 |
| 16:51.01 | pagefault | haha |
| 16:51.03 | pagefault | haha |
| 16:51.07 | pagefault | thats funny |
| 16:51.40 | kergoth | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=254 |
| 16:51.41 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:57.52 | nullpuppy | w00t! |
| 16:57.58 | nullpuppy | i successfully made fudge :) |
| 16:58.04 | kergoth | mm |
| 16:58.20 | kergoth | 11:57 < T0mW> +heh, "Subject: YOUR EMAIL HAS WON A PRIZE", does that mean that a greater number of |
| 16:58.23 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.45 | pagefault | nullpuppy, ok that sounds wrong |
| 17:02.47 | pagefault | but congrats |
| 17:02.47 | pagefault | :) |
| 17:05.52 | nullpuppy | hehe |
| 17:09.28 | kergoth | "Well, duh! There's your problem! You have letters all mixed in with the numbers!." |
| 17:10.13 | numist | kergoth: hex :P |
| 17:10.20 | numist | real smart fella there |
| 17:10.27 | kergoth | http://www.thedailywtf.com/ |
| 17:10.30 | kergoth | friday's entry |
| 17:10.32 | numist | yep |
| 17:10.33 | numist | saw it |
| 17:10.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 17:10.40 | numist | full of good stuff there |
| 17:10.45 | kergoth | yeah |
| 17:10.47 | kergoth | i love monday's too |
| 17:10.53 | kergoth | True, False, FileNotFound |
| 17:10.58 | numist | :) |
| 17:11.47 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:13.38 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 17:13.40 | jbot | See Gaz, to defeat my enemy I must study my enemy, then become my enemy, then move in with my enemy, then wear my enemies clothes, then... |
| 17:13.50 | pagefault | haha |
| 17:13.50 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 17:13.51 | jbot | I'm delicious! No one should be this delicious! |
| 17:13.54 | pagefault | penny arcade is funny |
| 17:13.57 | pagefault | yesterday's |
| 17:14.25 | pagefault | so is dibert |
| 17:14.29 | pagefault | heh |
| 17:14.33 | pagefault | yesterday's |
| 17:14.35 | pagefault | I am behind |
| 17:14.42 | kergoth | haha |
| 17:15.45 | pagefault | hehe |
| 17:18.46 | pagefault | wtf |
| 17:18.53 | pagefault | new nvidia drivers add vsync support for SLI |
| 17:18.57 | pagefault | they didn't have it before? |
| 17:22.50 | pagefault | oh well |
| 17:22.52 | pagefault | new ati linux drivers |
| 17:22.52 | pagefault | again |
| 17:23.02 | ChipX86 | anything worth upgrading for? |
| 17:23.07 | pagefault | no idea |
| 17:23.59 | pagefault | looks like just fixes for some distros |
| 17:25.37 | pagefault | oh well |
| 17:25.58 | pagefault | for some reason I can't get breezy working in vmware after I upgraded |
| 17:26.07 | pagefault | the video output is all odd |
| 17:26.13 | scanlime | clean the gook out of the mouse |
| 17:26.15 | ChipX86 | upgraded what? ati? |
| 17:26.24 | pagefault | nah |
| 17:26.28 | pagefault | upgraded from hoary I mean |
| 17:26.35 | ChipX86 | guest or host? |
| 17:26.40 | pagefault | guest |
| 17:26.44 | pagefault | it's fine until the login screen |
| 17:26.47 | pagefault | then it just gets all corrupted |
| 17:26.50 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 17:26.52 | ChipX86 | works fine here |
| 17:27.02 | pagefault | I think I will just do a clean install |
| 17:28.19 | pagefault | they did a nice job though |
| 17:28.20 | pagefault | with breezy |
| 17:29.13 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 17:29.21 | ChipX86 | I was happy to see my notification bubbles |
| 17:39.14 | scanlime | hmmmm |
| 17:39.37 | scanlime | looking at the first big patch from our newest guy... |
| 17:39.48 | scanlime | we have this status enum |
| 17:39.57 | scanlime | STATUS_OK, STATUS_NO_MEMORY, and so on |
| 17:40.00 | scanlime | he added STATUS_OK2 |
| 17:41.04 | purple_cow | scanlime: hehe |
| 17:41.07 | ChipX86 | scanlime: wtf? |
| 17:41.15 | ChipX86 | dare I ask what the difference is? |
| 17:41.26 | scanlime | I'm not entirely sure yet |
| 17:41.37 | file | ChipX86: it's more ok then the first one. |
| 17:42.08 | ChipX86 | we should have TRUE1 and TRUE2 |
| 17:42.13 | scanlime | I think I'm going to go back to what I was doing, and let Chris have the first crack at this review :P |
| 17:42.20 | nullpuppy | and FALSE42 |
| 17:42.35 | nullpuppy | but not FALSE1 throuh FALSE41 |
| 17:43.44 | scanlime | yup |
| 17:43.59 | scanlime | I should suggest he rename OK2 to EVEN_MORE_OK |
| 17:44.17 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:44.22 | scanlime | then we'd need to be sure all our code returns STATUS_EVEN_MORE_OK when things are going really well |
| 17:44.41 | scanlime | if you allocate memory and it returns STATUS_EVEN_MORE_OK, it probably allocated twice as much as you need |
| 17:44.54 | ChipX86 | OK/SUCCESS and FAILURE are so boring |
| 17:44.58 | ChipX86 | it should return HAPPY or SAD |
| 17:45.07 | purple_cow | ASK_AGAIN_LATER |
| 17:45.12 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 17:45.26 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:45.38 | scanlime | hmm |
| 17:45.41 | darth_mall | so there! |
| 17:45.45 | scanlime | we could just replace all status codes with a magic-8-ball enum |
| 17:45.56 | scanlime | return STATUS_OUTLOOK_NOT_SO_GOOD; |
| 17:47.53 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@71-211-131-210.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 17:48.16 | file | hi lurgy |
| 17:48.22 | lurgy | hi |
| 17:48.29 | file | how goes your day? |
| 17:49.16 | lurgy | eh |
| 17:53.53 | purple_cow | arg! |
| 17:54.09 | purple_cow | ran out of cream cheese 1/4 of the way through my bagel |
| 17:54.36 | scanlime | nooooooo |
| 17:54.46 | scanlime | purple_cow: at vmware they have UNLIMITED bagels *and* cream cheese! |
| 17:54.53 | scanlime | where by unlimited I mean infinite |
| 17:56.21 | purple_cow | that's boring |
| 17:56.24 | purple_cow | i want transfinite |
| 17:56.32 | purple_cow | then you can have fun discussions about which building has more bagels |
| 17:57.01 | scanlime | :) |
| 17:57.13 | scanlime | yesterday we had cookies |
| 17:57.18 | scanlime | and fajitas |
| 17:57.31 | scanlime | we need more indian food days... those are always my favorite |
| 17:59.40 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 17:59.43 | ChipX86 | mine too |
| 18:02.30 | *** join/#tacobeam numist (i=numist@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/numist) |
| 18:02.57 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 18:02.57 | CIA-5 | view: - Improved FieldEntry validation a bit more. |
| 18:02.57 | CIA-5 | view: - Added a FilterField virtual function that can modify a field as a user is typing in it. The resulting field is still subject to the validation rules. |
| 18:18.36 | numist | no wonder I havent gotten any email yet today... no email client open |
| 18:18.40 | numist | oopsie |
| 18:19.54 | file | minor detail |
| 18:23.44 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ChangeLog: Forgot the ChangeLog. |
| 18:25.43 | CIA-5 | view: 03chipx86 * 10libview/ (ChangeLog NEWS configure.ac): Bumped the version to 0.5.3. Releasing. |
| 18:26.28 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9134 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/evan.svg: Added some new buttons, deleted the second screen, rearranged some fields. |
| 18:27.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9135 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/ (button_mouseover.svg evan.svg new_box.svg): |
| 18:27.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Rename evan.svg to new_box.svg; having informative file names is a Good Thing |
| 18:27.29 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: (TM). Add an image to show button relief on mouseovers. |
| 18:38.34 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9136 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/button_mouseover.svg: Pretty good mock-up for the moused over buttons. |
| 18:47.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (inc/OSFile.h src/OSFile.cpp): add std::string versions of stuff that takes a filepath/name |
| 18:51.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 18:51.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: app virtual function to get default data dir |
| 18:51.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: make windows app search logical places ( where ese is, working dir/data, working dir ) |
| 18:51.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: update prefs version and do a find for the data dir. |
| 18:52.43 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9137 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/linked_lessons.svg: Mock-up of displaying all the links to a particular lesson. |
| 19:01.34 | scanlime | wowie |
| 19:01.36 | scanlime | http://kde-bluetooth.sourceforge.net/screenshots/index.html |
| 19:01.47 | scanlime | kde's bluetooth stuff is way more advanced than gnome-bluetooth :( |
| 19:02.16 | numist | steal the source! |
| 19:02.28 | ChipX86 | just s/kde/gnome/ and it should work |
| 19:02.46 | numist | clever |
| 19:03.05 | ChipX86 | I should eat |
| 19:03.31 | numist | hrm, the gorillaz self titled album really sucked with the exception of clint eastwook, 19-2000 and (arguably)m1a1 |
| 19:03.42 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9138 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/ (button_mouseover.svg linked_lessons.svg new_box.svg): Added the Save button to the tool bar. |
| 19:04.18 | scanlime | it's too bad this KDE stuff is so cluttered and inconsistent though |
| 19:04.27 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9139 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/ (new_box.svg new_lesson.svg): Rename again. This isn't a completely new box. It's just a new lesson. |
| 19:05.04 | numist | hrm, I need to find an enclosure for a 3.5" disk... maybe Ill make one |
| 19:07.06 | scanlime | wow |
| 19:07.11 | scanlime | patrick talks |
| 19:07.19 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 19:07.31 | scanlime | the new guy, the one that did the STATUS_OK2 thing |
| 19:07.34 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 19:07.35 | scanlime | he's been really quiet |
| 19:15.39 | scanlime | tired |
| 19:15.44 | scanlime | and ears are still ringing a bit |
| 19:15.47 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 19:15.55 | scanlime | well, more than usual |
| 19:24.58 | scanlime | I should bring my rio AC adaptor to work... |
| 19:25.05 | scanlime | I've had the rio here for a couple days, and it's running low |
| 19:26.29 | numist | I should buy a rio.. little late now, eh? |
| 19:26.59 | scanlime | might could find one on ebay |
| 19:27.10 | scanlime | they're pretty sturdy little machines, if you're not ChipX86 :) |
| 19:27.24 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 19:27.29 | ChipX86 | I liked mine a lot |
| 19:27.43 | scanlime | so get another rio :) |
| 19:27.52 | ChipX86 | decided to get an iAudio X5. Should be fine, but if I run across another rio for cheap, I'll probably get it |
| 19:28.02 | ChipX86 | the wheel was just way too fragile though |
| 19:28.09 | ChipX86 | I read so many reports of this happening to other people |
| 19:28.13 | scanlime | ah |
| 19:28.25 | ChipX86 | and if the wheel stops working, you're very limited in what you can do |
| 19:28.39 | scanlime | but anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm gonna turn my TV on, 'cuz everything looks beautiful on video |
| 19:28.45 | numist | :/ |
| 19:28.54 | ChipX86 | I still recommend the karma though |
| 19:29.01 | ChipX86 | I'm going to miss Rio DJ |
| 19:29.17 | scanlime | and if you need me switch me on, I'm always right behind the screen. I'm beautiful forever now, I'm living thirty minute dreams |
| 19:29.48 | scanlime | so it was great seeing The Epoxies again last night, but the concert itself was kinda disappointing |
| 19:30.08 | scanlime | lousy acoustics, and it most of the crowd was very unimpressed by anybody but Against Me |
| 19:30.19 | scanlime | the first two bands that played faced a pretty much completely dead audience |
| 19:30.26 | scanlime | there was a small pocket of Epoxies fans |
| 19:30.34 | scanlime | but then the place just completely exploded when Against Me came on :P |
| 19:31.04 | scanlime | I guess I don't blame them, it's hard to appreciate the Epoxies when you can't really hear Roxy |
| 19:31.23 | scanlime | but they had the green lasers and fog again, and they had fun pointing it at the disco ball :) |
| 19:32.15 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9140 10teaching_boxes/prototype/low-fi/new_lesson_dialog.svg: Example dialog box when creating a new lesson. |
| 19:37.17 | scanlime | huh |
| 19:37.37 | scanlime | apparently if you don't pay attention at all and type "outline" where it's expecting a gdkcolor, you get lime green |
| 19:40.26 | *** join/#tacobeam Potter (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/potter) |
| 19:40.30 | *** part/#tacobeam Potter (n=chatzill@unaffiliated/potter) |
| 19:40.49 | scanlime | heh, that 'unaffiliated' crap is never going to stop bothering me |
| 19:41.36 | numist | ? |
| 19:41.50 | numist | oh wow.... the user I just helped with his new cloak checked out all my channels |
| 19:41.54 | numist | sorry about that, guys |
| 19:42.09 | ChipX86 | weird |
| 19:42.10 | scanlime | I'm just annoyed by all the hostmask abuse freenode has been doing lately |
| 19:42.39 | numist | scanlime: well, inaffiliated is supposed to be the default mask to hide your real mask... and to encourage people to join a real project |
| 19:43.09 | scanlime | yeah... |
| 19:43.25 | numist | the change from . to / as delimiters (and backwardsing everything) is rather odd though |
| 19:43.43 | scanlime | they just keep changing the semantics of things in odd ways |
| 19:43.59 | numist | nod |
| 19:44.09 | numist | none of the stuff theyre changing is rfc yet though ;) |
| 19:44.31 | scanlime | what? standards in IRC? unpossible! |
| 19:44.36 | numist | :) |
| 19:44.57 | kergoth | bleh |
| 19:45.03 | scanlime | freenode is still extremely normal compared to some of the IRC servers I've seen CIA running on... |
| 19:45.10 | numist | true |
| 19:45.11 | kergoth | ~working |
| 19:45.12 | jbot | it has been said that working is that stuff you do between checking webcomics |
| 19:45.16 | numist | hah |
| 19:45.25 | kergoth | ~working |
| 19:45.27 | jbot | methinks working is that stuff you do between checking webcomics |
| 19:45.30 | kergoth | bah |
| 19:45.38 | kergoth | ~working |
| 19:45.39 | jbot | well, working is that stuff you pretend to do while you read forums |
| 19:46.13 | scanlime | working is drinking coffee and/or beer while at your desk |
| 19:46.52 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:47.16 | numist | beer preferred |
| 19:47.24 | numist | coffee is just for entertainment at my desk :/ |
| 19:47.36 | scanlime | ooh... alpha blending in gnome-canvas works |
| 19:47.48 | numist | sweet |
| 19:48.54 | kergoth | ~literal working |
| 19:48.56 | jbot | "working" is "that stuff you pretend to do while you read forums || that stuff you do between bouts of wasting time on irc || that stuff you do between checking webcomics || something i will never understand!" |
| 19:48.56 | kergoth | :( |
| 19:49.04 | kergoth | damn lag |
| 19:49.30 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/~micah/error-markers.jpeg |
| 19:49.45 | kergoth | jbot: no, working is that stuff you pretend to do while you read forums || that stuff you do between bouts of wasting time on irc || that stuff you do between checking webcomics || something i will never understand! || drinking coffee and/or beer while at your desk || that stuff you do between catching up on mailing lists |
| 19:49.46 | jbot | okay, kergoth |
| 19:49.58 | numist | yay the incredible machine |
| 19:50.24 | scanlime | they cruise in unmarked vans |
| 19:50.27 | scanlime | your thoughts are in their hands! |
| 19:50.30 | scanlime | control you with a shaft of light |
| 19:50.37 | scanlime | they're done with TV screens |
| 19:50.39 | scanlime | they're using laser beams |
| 19:50.44 | scanlime | you'll dream of microwaves tonight |
| 19:50.57 | ChipX86 | hmm, got an interview lunch next friday |
| 19:51.06 | scanlime | you can't resist the call |
| 19:51.10 | scanlime | go to the shopping mall |
| 19:51.18 | scanlime | there's just so much for you to buy |
| 19:51.20 | scanlime | they're everywhere you go |
| 19:51.24 | scanlime | they're inside your home |
| 19:51.25 | scanlime | there's no point in asking why |
| 19:51.46 | kergoth | should i move to raleigh north carolina? |
| 19:51.54 | kergoth | this job looks like i might not hate it |
| 19:54.02 | scanlime | heh |
| 19:54.08 | scanlime | which job? |
| 19:55.10 | kergoth | ehm.. whered i put the url |
| 19:55.30 | kergoth | fine then! |
| 19:55.43 | kergoth | its a job with a company that does products for making custom linux distributions |
| 19:55.43 | scanlime | someday, far in the future, people will be able to describe things without using URLs |
| 19:55.58 | kergoth | the job consists of hacking on their infrastructure in python |
| 19:56.11 | scanlime | ok.. aside from the python, how is that different from your current and previous jobs? |
| 19:56.26 | kergoth | i dont do build work here, or in the last job |
| 19:56.32 | scanlime | ah |
| 19:56.33 | kergoth | last one was kernel development |
| 19:56.38 | kergoth | this one is userspace networking stuffs |
| 19:56.56 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 19:56.56 | kergoth | this other job is oe-like, so is a damn good fit given my skillsets |
| 19:56.59 | kergoth | but i dunno.. |
| 19:57.00 | numist | I'm sending my sister a win98 vm so she can play TIM, and she's downloading Player right now |
| 19:57.06 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 19:57.07 | scanlime | numist: nice :) |
| 19:57.08 | numist | :D |
| 19:57.11 | numist | totally sweet |
| 19:57.13 | ChipX86 | very |
| 19:57.20 | numist | maybe Ill send her my ubuntu vm too >_> |
| 19:57.24 | ChipX86 | and thus the world changed overnight |
| 19:57.29 | numist | although its in serious need of an update |
| 19:57.35 | numist | :) |
| 19:57.43 | ChipX86 | "I'm going to send you this computer. It's configured for this game. Save it in My Documents or some place." |
| 19:57.49 | numist | :) |
| 19:57.54 | numist | I havent told her what it is yet |
| 19:57.56 | scanlime | =) |
| 19:57.56 | numist | just that its cool |
| 19:58.01 | ChipX86 | TIM or VMs? |
| 19:58.03 | numist | and she can play my old games on it |
| 19:58.06 | numist | player |
| 19:58.10 | ChipX86 | ahh |
| 19:58.18 | numist | she just knows its the most complicated thing her computer will ever be asked to do |
| 19:58.19 | ChipX86 | powering on a VM for the first time is a neat experience |
| 19:58.23 | numist | yeah |
| 19:58.24 | numist | it really is |
| 19:59.10 | numist | gah 20 minutes to zip it |
| 19:59.21 | scanlime | hmm |
| 19:59.26 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r443 10prototype/src/menu/ (6 files in 2 dirs): ws, comments... |
| 19:59.36 | scanlime | wonder if there's a way to turn off the radio in my phone, so I can use it to play NES games on the plane :) |
| 19:59.40 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.41 | kergoth | bah |
| 19:59.45 | numist | seems like the bottleneck is the disk throughput.. damn usb1.1 |
| 19:59.50 | scanlime | :P |
| 19:59.57 | numist | scanlime: mine can do it... should be a simple thing |
| 20:00.01 | numist | its called "airplane mode" |
| 20:00.01 | ChipX86 | mine can too |
| 20:00.06 | numist | clever, eh? |
| 20:00.07 | scanlime | hehe, airplane mode |
| 20:00.10 | scanlime | vroom! |
| 20:00.29 | scanlime | although they prolly wouldn't want me using a bluetooth headset for audio... |
| 20:00.40 | scanlime | but really, bluetooth is so low power.. their coffee pots probably put off more EMI |
| 20:00.40 | numist | yeah, but its more useful when Im at carries.. I need the address book, and I KNOW theres no service.. if I dont disable the radio, it kills itself pinging for a net |
| 20:00.51 | scanlime | hah |
| 20:00.57 | numist | yeah... damn it |
| 20:01.12 | numist | it basically ping -f sprint.com until it gets something |
| 20:01.34 | scanlime | mm, cool.. I didn't know you could send address book entries via bluetooth |
| 20:01.40 | scanlime | I guess it's just a vcard file |
| 20:01.55 | numist | most likely |
| 20:04.11 | scanlime | owwww |
| 20:04.13 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/~micah/bluetooth-massacre.jpeg |
| 20:05.03 | scanlime | what an annoying protocol |
| 20:05.20 | scanlime | but at least those error markers are translucent now :P |
| 20:05.21 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 20:05.24 | numist | what does that image represent? |
| 20:05.44 | numist | for the uninformed |
| 20:05.46 | scanlime | it represents belkin's bluetooth adaptor going completely nuts |
| 20:05.52 | numist | sweet! |
| 20:06.00 | scanlime | well, see those labels on the left side? |
| 20:06.05 | numist | nod |
| 20:06.11 | scanlime | each group of rows with labels is a USB endpoint |
| 20:06.14 | numist | I take it dev 2 is the belkin thingy |
| 20:06.26 | scanlime | well, it's the only device |
| 20:06.43 | scanlime | address 0 is what devices show up as when they're first connected and haven't been assigned an address |
| 20:06.57 | scanlime | and address 1 is there because it was briefly connected at that address during initialization |
| 20:07.03 | numist | ah |
| 20:07.10 | scanlime | winxp does this stupid thing where it probes for ms-specific descriptors, then resets the device when it doesn't find them |
| 20:07.13 | scanlime | anyway |
| 20:07.23 | scanlime | horizontal axis is time, each box represents a single USB transaction |
| 20:07.35 | scanlime | the vertical ordering is arbitrary, it just stacks them as best it can so you can see all the information |
| 20:07.41 | scanlime | color indicates data size |
| 20:07.57 | scanlime | gray is zero-length, the red boxes indicate a failure |
| 20:08.20 | numist | haha they all time out |
| 20:08.24 | scanlime | no |
| 20:08.28 | scanlime | the device disconnected itself :P |
| 20:08.32 | numist | hah |
| 20:09.09 | scanlime | this is turning out to be a pretty useful little tool |
| 20:09.21 | scanlime | I'm surprised our $3000 analyzer boxes don't include something like this :) |
| 20:09.47 | numist | $3k? damn |
| 20:10.08 | scanlime | see, our team gets cooler toys than ChipX86's team |
| 20:10.12 | numist | hehe yeah |
| 20:10.17 | numist | you do |
| 20:11.06 | numist | oops, didnt mean to send my sister the iso in that zip |
| 20:11.07 | numist | oops |
| 20:11.18 | scanlime | heh |
| 20:11.27 | numist | guess she gets the win98 install disk too then |
| 20:11.29 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:11.40 | scanlime | so.. bah. I think to really see what's going on, I might need to improve my bluetooth protocol analyzer :P |
| 20:11.57 | numist | not a bad thing :) |
| 20:17.52 | scanlime | http://www.ellisys.com/products/usbex200/buy.php |
| 20:18.06 | ChipX86 | halloween party tomorrow.. I must actually get a costume for next year |
| 20:22.48 | ChipX86 | I hate testing gsx |
| 20:23.08 | ChipX86 | scanlime: do you happen to have a box with gsx set up? |
| 20:23.19 | scanlime | no |
| 20:23.26 | ChipX86 | meh |
| 20:23.33 | ChipX86 | need something I can connect to, but my gsx is too old |
| 20:23.45 | ChipX86 | and I still can't figure out how to compile the server for linux and get it working :) |
| 20:25.03 | ChipX86 | woot |
| 20:25.07 | ChipX86 | managed to test this anyway |
| 20:26.30 | numist | :( another cyclic dependancy |
| 20:26.37 | numist | lunchtime |
| 20:28.11 | *** join/#tacobeam pagefault (i=pagefaul@toronto-HSE-ppp4045104.sympatico.ca) |
| 20:30.37 | file | hi pagefault |
| 20:31.20 | pagefault | hey |
| 20:31.25 | pagefault | hey |
| 20:43.36 | pagefault | hey |
| 20:43.37 | pagefault | err |
| 20:43.38 | pagefault | oops |
| 20:43.46 | pagefault | wrong window |
| 20:43.49 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:43.55 | pagefault | I was pushing up on the console |
| 20:43.58 | pagefault | but irc had focus |
| 20:44.09 | pagefault | wanted to run the last command |
| 20:45.40 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:46.09 | pagefault | I love that fishing addon you put in |
| 20:46.17 | kergoth | fishingbuddy? |
| 20:46.21 | ChipX86 | I need to play again sometime |
| 20:46.21 | pagefault | the one that tells you where all the fish you caught are at |
| 20:46.24 | pagefault | yeah |
| 20:46.43 | ChipX86 | been so busy with everything else |
| 20:46.53 | darth_mall | kergoth: what version of gtk and pygtk do you have installed on your amd64? |
| 20:47.20 | kergoth | ~/code$ dpkg -s libgtk2.0-0|grep Version |
| 20:47.21 | kergoth | Version: 2.8.6-0ubuntu2 |
| 20:47.33 | kergoth | ~/code$ dpkg -s python2.4-gtk2|grep Version |
| 20:47.34 | kergoth | Version: 2.8.1-0ubuntu2 |
| 20:47.42 | file | uh |
| 20:47.47 | file | a NASA address keeps appearing on my server |
| 20:48.01 | pagefault | they know you have the alien technology |
| 20:48.27 | darth_mall | kergoth: thanks |
| 20:49.26 | ChipX86 | but I have the alien technology :( |
| 20:49.54 | file | ChipX86: I stole it |
| 20:53.12 | kergoth | darth_mall: np |
| 20:59.34 | file[laptop] | ugh |
| 20:59.37 | file[laptop] | I can't stop sneezing |
| 20:59.48 | numist | bless you |
| 21:01.18 | numist | it doesnt mean much, coming from me, but the blessing is there anyway |
| 21:02.26 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 21:02.31 | ChipX86 | SBC is changing its name to AT&T |
| 21:02.39 | numist | pretty much |
| 21:03.03 | scanlime | heh |
| 21:03.53 | numist | same |
| 21:05.32 | file[laptop] | silly telcos |
| 21:08.49 | pagefault | there are no good x86 docs on the net |
| 21:08.54 | CIA-5 | view: 03philipl * 10libview/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:08.54 | CIA-5 | view: Thu 27 Oct 14:06:23 PDT 2005 Philip Langdale <plangdale@vmware.com> |
| 21:08.54 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/menuToggleAction.cc |
| 21:08.54 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/menuToggleAction.hh: |
| 21:08.54 | CIA-5 | view: - Fixed detaching proxy widget from menu. I wasn't |
| 21:08.55 | CIA-5 | view: disconnecting the callback after it fires. |
| 21:09.10 | pagefault | ok nm |
| 21:09.12 | scanlime | pagefault: treeware... get the IA-32 Software Developer's Manual |
| 21:09.22 | file[laptop] | good manual |
| 21:09.28 | pagefault | I just want to find out what flags this instruction modifies |
| 21:09.29 | pagefault | but it's so hard |
| 21:09.34 | pagefault | it's hard to find that one question |
| 21:09.36 | file[laptop] | they only give PDF copies now |
| 21:09.48 | pagefault | ah I found it |
| 21:14.03 | file[laptop] | bleh |
| 21:23.40 | *** join/#tacobeam hardwire (n=hardwire@209-112-136-78-cdsl-rb1.nwc.acsalaska.net) |
| 21:23.44 | hardwire | hmmphmh. |
| 21:23.51 | file[laptop] | hi hardwire |
| 21:23.57 | hardwire | hi file[laptop] |
| 21:24.01 | hardwire | scanlime: poke |
| 21:27.41 | pagefault | ah I found it |
| 21:29.01 | scanlime | what? |
| 21:31.25 | scanlime | usbview is such a piece of crap |
| 21:31.28 | scanlime | "Bandwidth allocated: -24403 / 900 (-2710%)" |
| 21:31.32 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 21:31.57 | kergoth | neat trick |
| 21:32.07 | hardwire | scanlime: outl/outb and so forth from a kernel module aren't limited to a specific port range or require iopl correct? |
| 21:32.52 | scanlime | hardwire: IIRC they're not limited by hardware protection, but you're still suppoed to allocate them |
| 21:33.02 | scanlime | kinda like memory, actually :P |
| 21:33.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 21:33.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: let world render know about editor |
| 21:33.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: give editor method to find textures |
| 21:33.21 | hardwire | scanlime: you protect a port? |
| 21:33.51 | scanlime | it's just a resource drivers allocate.. like IRQs, or RAM |
| 21:34.05 | hardwire | request_region(BASEADDR, SIZE. DESC) |
| 21:34.08 | hardwire | ok |
| 21:34.10 | hardwire | that should work |
| 21:34.22 | scanlime | erm |
| 21:34.27 | scanlime | are you using I/O ports, or MMIO? |
| 21:34.33 | hardwire | I/P |
| 21:34.34 | hardwire | err |
| 21:34.35 | hardwire | I/O |
| 21:34.43 | hardwire | fiddling some LED's |
| 21:35.00 | scanlime | LEDs... on an ISA I/O port? |
| 21:35.11 | hardwire | you know.. I just don't know |
| 21:35.20 | hardwire | hold on a sec |
| 21:35.30 | scanlime | unless this is legacy x86 hardware, you probably actually have MMIO |
| 21:35.51 | scanlime | what kind of bus is this hardware on, and what architecture is it? |
| 21:36.18 | scanlime | "VFS: busy inodes on changed media. |
| 21:36.23 | scanlime | " <-- getting real tired of that |
| 21:36.37 | hardwire | http://pastebin.ca/26862 |
| 21:36.41 | hardwire | basically emulating that |
| 21:36.41 | numist | oh shit. Some lady hanged herself, and people thought it was a halloween decoration. |
| 21:36.59 | hardwire | sx200 Geode hardware. |
| 21:37.00 | kergoth | :( |
| 21:37.09 | hardwire | numist: thats terrible |
| 21:37.18 | numist | yes, it is |
| 21:37.22 | scanlime | wow |
| 21:37.38 | ChipX86 | numist: wow.. where? |
| 21:37.45 | scanlime | hardwire: pff, geode... ok, old-fashioned x86 I/O ports are what you want, but that's silly :P |
| 21:37.47 | numist | delaware |
| 21:37.48 | numist | http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/B/BRF_WOMAN_HANGED?SITE=ORMED&SECTION=US |
| 21:38.00 | hardwire | scanlime: so outb should work just fine? |
| 21:38.18 | hardwire | because this region I am writing to is already requested in most cases. |
| 21:38.29 | scanlime | heh |
| 21:38.39 | hardwire | by the scx200_gpio driver |
| 21:39.04 | scanlime | so why don't you use the scx200_gpio driver? |
| 21:39.12 | hardwire | you know.. that thought is cumulating. |
| 21:39.26 | scanlime | heh |
| 21:39.26 | hardwire | I haven't the foggiest how to make my module require it |
| 21:39.29 | hardwire | and use it |
| 21:39.41 | file[laptop] | hardwire: I sometimes wonder what you do |
| 21:39.42 | scanlime | why are you poking LEDs from kernelspace anyway? |
| 21:39.47 | scanlime | that seems like a userspace policy thing |
| 21:40.12 | hardwire | scanlime: hah.. you will laugh.. so I would rather not say. unless you prodded enough. |
| 21:40.20 | scanlime | I want to laugh |
| 21:40.25 | hardwire | ok |
| 21:40.35 | hardwire | fire up the dumbass canon |
| 21:40.41 | scanlime | check |
| 21:40.47 | numist | - extra e |
| 21:40.48 | hardwire | the pcengines WRAP platform has 3 leds |
| 21:40.55 | hardwire | accessable via GPIO or GPIOBASE |
| 21:41.03 | hardwire | easy to fiddle w/ /dev/port |
| 21:41.05 | hardwire | however.. |
| 21:41.22 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 21:41.25 | hardwire | I wanted to use a daemon already written.. that changes the LED state of the VT |
| 21:41.31 | ChipX86 | yay for being put in an uncomfortable position |
| 21:41.34 | hardwire | without rewriting it to work with just this hardware. |
| 21:41.57 | scanlime | heh |
| 21:42.00 | hardwire | so.. I wrote a very simple input driver that rgisters as a keyboard + led events. and it works perfectly as far as receiving the events. |
| 21:42.08 | hardwire | now to write to the IO |
| 21:42.14 | scanlime | you could just do all of that in userspace |
| 21:42.17 | scanlime | using /dev/uinput |
| 21:42.21 | hardwire | well |
| 21:42.27 | hardwire | I didn't know about /dev/uinput until yesterday. |
| 21:42.40 | hardwire | and thats all fine and dandy.. now isn't it.. |
| 21:42.41 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:42.57 | scanlime | you must not have been paying attention when I was hacking on uinput in here :) |
| 21:43.02 | hardwire | I was |
| 21:43.08 | hardwire | I saw it.. and went. OOOOH |
| 21:43.25 | hardwire | Vojtech already responded wondering wtf I was doing.. when I asked about really simple input driver skeletons. |
| 21:43.32 | hardwire | he seems nice enough |
| 21:44.09 | hardwire | scanlime: but.. if I add like 10 more lines of code.. my job here is done. |
| 21:44.15 | scanlime | yeah |
| 21:44.26 | scanlime | what kind of daemon is this that twiddles keyboard LEDs? |
| 21:44.47 | hardwire | a variety |
| 21:45.02 | hardwire | but I was aiming it to use ledcontrol |
| 21:45.03 | numist | scanlime: there was a kernel module that flashed the core dump of a panicced kernel in morse code on keyboard lights... |
| 21:45.13 | hardwire | I dunno if it exists outside of debian.. it didn't seem to |
| 21:45.14 | scanlime | hehe |
| 21:45.17 | numist | but it took a few hours (18?) to finish |
| 21:45.20 | scanlime | yeah |
| 21:45.21 | hardwire | numist: hah |
| 21:45.39 | hardwire | scanlime: I initially wanted to write the input driver.. attach a timer.. and have it do random things until initialized as well. |
| 21:45.45 | scanlime | morse code is silly, you could encode a lot more information in that if you use all three LEDs |
| 21:45.52 | hardwire | since these SBC's have no screen I wanted to basically have some sort of progress shown on them |
| 21:45.58 | numist | scanlime: but this was user-readable :P |
| 21:46.05 | hardwire | numist: hardly. |
| 21:46.09 | scanlime | numist: this would be too, it'd just take more work :) |
| 21:46.11 | numist | hardwire: you dont know morse code? |
| 21:46.17 | numist | scanlime: hah |
| 21:46.26 | hardwire | numist: can you read the morse code for the last 100 lines of this channel? |
| 21:46.30 | hardwire | fluently? |
| 21:46.32 | scanlime | numist: instead of morse code, maybe you have 3-bit manchester encoded packets... |
| 21:46.42 | numist | hah |
| 21:47.02 | hardwire | scanlime: of course.. if I registered a timer device.. I could modulate the LED's and give it multiple values per LED |
| 21:47.03 | numist | hardwire: my roommate can, and I could too if I put a little more effort into it |
| 21:47.06 | hardwire | but who knows how terrible that would be |
| 21:47.13 | hardwire | it would probably kill the kernel |
| 21:47.28 | hardwire | numist: maybe you should IRC via morse then. |
| 21:47.31 | scanlime | hardwire: you don't need a particularly high frequency clock to do good PWM, just low jitter |
| 21:47.40 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/Win32/winApp.cpp: ./data/ not ./data |
| 21:47.41 | numist | actually, I was thinking that you could just have each char be 3 sets of blinks on the keyboard, and then youve got 9 bit chars |
| 21:47.45 | scanlime | hardwire: if you pretty much hooked it directly into the kernel's tick interrupt, it could look fabulous |
| 21:47.46 | hardwire | well I won't worry about it then :) |
| 21:47.57 | numist | hardwire: not as fast as text, but on a panicced kernel, it wouldnt matter |
| 21:48.02 | hardwire | scanlime: but that would hog a lot of I/O |
| 21:48.09 | hardwire | 3 I/O writes per tick. |
| 21:48.15 | numist | meh |
| 21:48.16 | scanlime | hardwire: yes, and your crappy geode has slow I/O |
| 21:48.22 | hardwire | yes indeed |
| 21:48.26 | hardwire | therefore.. none of this silly talk. |
| 21:48.34 | scanlime | hardwire: but 'slow' in this case is still only something like 8 MHz right? |
| 21:48.48 | hardwire | hmm |
| 21:48.51 | hardwire | don't tempt me. |
| 21:48.55 | scanlime | ok, so divide down the kernel tick rate until you get 50 Hz or so |
| 21:49.00 | scanlime | er, actually... |
| 21:49.05 | hardwire | shit.. maybe I should just make pcspkr modulate out LED 3 |
| 21:49.05 | scanlime | how many PWM levels you want? |
| 21:49.14 | scanlime | heh |
| 21:49.23 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (inc/worldRender.h src/worldRender.cpp): texture the grass |
| 21:49.26 | scanlime | you might need to do some fancy thing with programming the board's timers |
| 21:49.31 | hardwire | scanlime: heh.. 25% increments. |
| 21:49.36 | hardwire | that would be fancy enough. |
| 21:49.43 | hardwire | scanlime: but.. I don't care. |
| 21:49.44 | scanlime | pff, 2-bit PWM is for losers |
| 21:49.48 | hardwire | see.. the point was to make this just work :) |
| 21:49.58 | scanlime | even 12-bit is kind of lacking sometimes |
| 21:50.00 | hardwire | not make a new program for the display |
| 21:50.11 | kergoth | FINALLY, my oe iptables package includes libipt_random |
| 21:50.22 | hardwire | kergoth: thats such an evil filter. |
| 21:50.24 | scanlime | the human eye's logarithmic response to light means that you need a lot of resolution to keep it smooth at the low end of your brightness scale |
| 21:50.29 | hardwire | but.. I used it yesterday.. |
| 21:50.30 | hardwire | guess how? |
| 21:50.32 | kergoth | yay, evil |
| 21:50.33 | kergoth | how? |
| 21:50.34 | hardwire | TO TEST VOIP! |
| 21:50.37 | hardwire | :) |
| 21:51.00 | kergoth | haw |
| 21:51.02 | scanlime | I am going to reach through my monitor and give a black eye to the next person who mentions voip |
| 21:51.05 | kergoth | i love using it drop a % of packets |
| 21:51.17 | hardwire | scanlime: I understand how we recieve the pwm of led's |
| 21:51.28 | hardwire | how even a little jitter can change the value instantly |
| 21:51.29 | scanlime | receive? |
| 21:51.32 | numist | I should try skype or some sort of thing to save me money on my phone bill |
| 21:51.33 | hardwire | percieve. |
| 21:51.38 | scanlime | I'm not even talking about jitter |
| 21:51.41 | scanlime | I'm talking about resolution |
| 21:51.47 | JeffM2501 | I just shot somone in the head with my airzooka... voip!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:51.51 | scanlime | I'm already assuming you have no jitter :) |
| 21:51.51 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 21:51.53 | hardwire | and 12 bit out of one 300mcd led isn't enough for you? |
| 21:51.57 | numist | JeffM2501: jaj |
| 21:51.59 | numist | hah* |
| 21:52.08 | numist | I need to try out an airzooka |
| 21:52.12 | hardwire | JeffM2501: I have one. |
| 21:52.12 | numist | I have a perfect position in here |
| 21:52.13 | JeffM2501 | they rock |
| 21:52.17 | hardwire | it makes me happy |
| 21:52.19 | scanlime | hardwire: correct. The MI6K has 12-bit pwm, and you can still see individual steps pretty distinctly at low brightnesses |
| 21:52.46 | JeffM2501 | I kinda wish you could fill them with smoke |
| 21:52.49 | JeffM2501 | so you could see it |
| 21:52.58 | kergoth | iptables v1.3.3: Couldn't load match `mark':/home/kergoth/code/oe/build/tmp/work/iptables-1.3.3-r4/image/usr/lib/iptables/libipt_mark.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 21:52.59 | kergoth | Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. |
| 21:53.00 | numist | that would be sweet |
| 21:53.05 | JeffM2501 | and a laser sight, so you can see where it won't it |
| 21:53.05 | kergoth | GAH |
| 21:53.06 | hardwire | scanlime: but can't you dither pwm fades? |
| 21:53.06 | JeffM2501 | hit |
| 21:53.09 | numist | but I dont think the air actually travels... just the shock wave |
| 21:53.16 | hardwire | scanlime: hah.. have you ever tried? |
| 21:53.49 | scanlime | hardwire: yes, you can. I haven't tried it |
| 21:54.07 | scanlime | all dithering really does though is trade off refresh rate for resolution |
| 21:54.07 | ChipX86 | ok, time for a release I think |
| 21:54.15 | scanlime | since the more you need to dither, the more flickering will be noticeable |
| 21:54.37 | hardwire | ChipX86: potty break? |
| 21:54.42 | hardwire | I need to go release too. |
| 21:54.46 | ChipX86 | hardwire: your bathroom mind bothers me |
| 21:54.49 | ChipX86 | software release |
| 21:54.59 | hardwire | ChipX86: I have a potty mouth.. its not a secret. |
| 21:55.01 | hardwire | POOP |
| 21:55.05 | ChipX86 | well stop |
| 21:55.09 | ChipX86 | it's childish and nobody wants to see it |
| 21:55.30 | hardwire | I see what corporate programming america has done to your childish soul. |
| 21:55.55 | ChipX86 | corporate america programming is full of bathroom humor |
| 21:56.01 | ChipX86 | i happen to dislike it |
| 21:56.08 | hardwire | what humor do you like |
| 21:56.11 | hardwire | maybe I can trade off. |
| 21:56.36 | ChipX86 | use good judgement. |
| 21:56.58 | hardwire | ah.. see the humor I like is outside of good judgment. |
| 21:57.03 | numist | ChipX86: thats asking a lot of most of the population nowadays |
| 21:57.17 | numist | hardwire: good judgement based on your surroundings |
| 21:57.22 | scanlime | what the hell are you doing, BlueZ... |
| 22:00.09 | scanlime | mmmm |
| 22:00.42 | scanlime | aw, battery empty... |
| 22:00.56 | scanlime | maybe I could build a power adaptor for it |
| 22:01.00 | scanlime | all I need is a lathe... |
| 22:01.29 | ChipX86 | I'm so looking forward to this weekend :D |
| 22:01.37 | scanlime | me too :) |
| 22:01.40 | scanlime | what are you doing? |
| 22:01.50 | ChipX86 | Amanda, Chelsea and Paul are coming to stay a couple of days |
| 22:01.54 | scanlime | ah, yes |
| 22:02.00 | kergoth | have fun |
| 22:02.17 | ChipX86 | we're going to watch AMV Hell 3, Firefly, get sushi (which is becoming a very common food item for me as of late) and other stuff |
| 22:02.26 | scanlime | heh |
| 22:02.34 | scanlime | it's amazing how much more sushi I've been eating since moving here |
| 22:02.41 | scanlime | it's easier to get, and I can afford it :) |
| 22:02.41 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:02.44 | ChipX86 | yep! |
| 22:03.20 | ChipX86 | I'm quite pleased with Sushi Tomo's prices, actually. I can get a nice little meal for $8 |
| 22:03.20 | scanlime | yea |
| 22:03.21 | kergoth | ~/code/oe/build$ grep split ../org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb |
| 22:03.22 | kergoth | bash: /bin/grep: Argument list too long |
| 22:03.22 | scanlime | it's kinda small, but I'm usually content with one roll plus soup |
| 22:03.40 | scanlime | kergoth: that's why xargs and find were invented :P |
| 22:04.06 | kergoth | yeah i know, just this day.. nothing works the first time around :P |
| 22:04.20 | scanlime | tell me about it |
| 22:04.26 | scanlime | I liked working on the audio bug a lot more |
| 22:04.32 | purple_cow | mmm sushi |
| 22:04.34 | scanlime | this bug just makes me want to hurt belkin |
| 22:05.06 | purple_cow | especially their daily specials |
| 22:05.10 | scanlime | purple_cow: you know you want a real job soon, none of this crazy grad school stuff :) |
| 22:05.14 | purple_cow | but $5 for a single nigiri is just too much |
| 22:06.19 | purple_cow | i could very easily spend $50 on a meal there |
| 22:07.06 | hardwire | ugh |
| 22:07.14 | hardwire | i blew $160 on sushi the other day. |
| 22:07.31 | hardwire | my little missus likes her taco |
| 22:07.49 | hardwire | yeh.. she didn't like it when I said it to her either. |
| 22:08.03 | purple_cow | outside of iron chef, of course |
| 22:08.18 | scanlime | omgomg |
| 22:08.18 | kergoth | 17:06 * Bernardo had forgotten how slow monotone is... |
| 22:08.18 | kergoth | 17:07 < pb_> crumbs, that takes some doing. |
| 22:08.30 | scanlime | gnome-bluetooth includes an OBEX push tool |
| 22:08.32 | scanlime | and it actually works! |
| 22:08.35 | scanlime | with a usable UI! |
| 22:08.38 | kergoth | nice |
| 22:08.41 | kergoth | i need to try that |
| 22:08.45 | scanlime | but I never knew about it because it's named oddly and doesn't appear in the menus |
| 22:08.48 | scanlime | :P |
| 22:11.53 | ChipX86 | "There are not even rumours of anyone, anywhere making proprietary applications for Gnome." |
| 22:12.01 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:12.06 | ChipX86 | -- moron on osnews |
| 22:12.15 | scanlime | moron == KDE user? |
| 22:12.17 | ChipX86 | I swear, osnews is worse than slashdot |
| 22:12.18 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 22:12.23 | ChipX86 | most of these guys yelling are KDE people |
| 22:12.28 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:12.34 | scanlime | I know exactly what osnews is like :) |
| 22:12.49 | ChipX86 | nobody can just let other people be. Everyone must convince everyone else that their opinion is right |
| 22:12.58 | ChipX86 | I wonder what the rebuttal to my "We at VMware write gnome apps" comment will be |
| 22:12.59 | scanlime | wow, this analyzer dump looks like a train wreck |
| 22:13.02 | ChipX86 | "No you don't! |
| 22:13.05 | scanlime | but it's a reproducible train wreck! |
| 22:13.11 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:16.23 | kergoth | woot |
| 22:16.29 | kergoth | seperate .ipk for each iptables extension now |
| 22:17.22 | scanlime | why bother with ipks? each file should be a separate package. Only metapackages would be allowed to have multiple files |
| 22:17.30 | kergoth | hehe |
| 22:17.35 | scanlime | how else will you pass 1 million OE packages? |
| 22:17.54 | ChipX86 | no you couldn't. You're too far away |
| 22:17.58 | kergoth | i /might/ put them into groups |
| 22:17.58 | scanlime | I mean, at the rate you're going you'll only hit about 0.99 million |
| 22:18.08 | kergoth | but per extension is nice |
| 22:18.24 | hardwire | scx200_gpio 2,3 and 18 correlate to the led's |
| 22:18.38 | hardwire | accessable via the scx200 module |
| 22:18.43 | hardwire | now I don't need to care. |
| 22:18.44 | ChipX86 | SF's file release system still sucks |
| 22:18.51 | ChipX86 | can't update more than one file at a time |
| 22:18.54 | kergoth | scanlime: this one has a real world application. our network appliance at work has specific needs of netfilter. |
| 22:19.52 | kergoth | ooh, only 11 days until cedega 5 |
| 22:30.01 | hardwire | scanlime: damn |
| 22:30.05 | hardwire | it.. fucking.. works.. |
| 22:31.43 | hardwire | http://pastebin.ca/26866 |
| 22:32.39 | scanlime | why is it setting all those keycode bits? |
| 22:33.03 | numist | gpl? :( |
| 22:33.24 | hardwire | scanlime: I need to narrow that down |
| 22:33.29 | hardwire | to just caps/num/scroll |
| 22:33.39 | hardwire | it was yoinked from usbkbd |
| 22:33.54 | scanlime | I don't think you need any of those |
| 22:34.01 | scanlime | maybe just one key, so it detects it as a keyboard |
| 22:34.01 | hardwire | I can test |
| 22:34.05 | hardwire | its what made it work initially |
| 22:34.08 | hardwire | ok |
| 22:34.08 | scanlime | nod |
| 22:34.13 | hardwire | uno momento |
| 22:35.15 | ChipX86 | http://view.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:35.16 | ChipX86 | tada! |
| 22:35.35 | hardwire | scanlime: nope |
| 22:35.44 | hardwire | needs to know it has caps/num/scroll first |
| 22:35.47 | scanlime | ChipX86: yay |
| 22:35.57 | ChipX86 | need to add a screenshots page |
| 22:36.25 | hardwire | widgets you say? |
| 22:36.37 | hardwire | I like your little vm man. |
| 22:36.39 | ChipX86 | we released a bunch of our UI widgets as open source |
| 22:36.51 | ChipX86 | basically, if it's useful to other people and not dependent on our stuff, we put it in libview |
| 22:37.58 | hardwire | libview encapsulates the screen draw area and overall widgetry associated with the workstation? |
| 22:38.09 | ChipX86 | not the screen draw area |
| 22:38.25 | hardwire | ok |
| 22:38.35 | hardwire | its multi-platform then I take it |
| 22:38.36 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:38.39 | ChipX86 | but things like the thing that makes the toolbar slide out when in Quick Switch mode, and the themed headers and backgrounds in Workstation 5.5 |
| 22:38.43 | ChipX86 | a field entry, IP entry |
| 22:38.51 | ChipX86 | an entry that greys out when not editable |
| 22:38.59 | ChipX86 | a label that can wrap to any width |
| 22:39.02 | ChipX86 | and other things |
| 22:39.04 | ChipX86 | hardwire: no, it's gtk |
| 22:40.18 | hardwire | http://soekris.hejl.de/ |
| 22:40.18 | hardwire | heh |
| 22:40.24 | hardwire | somebody else uses scx200_gpio.c |
| 22:46.16 | ChipX86 | hahahaha |
| 22:46.22 | ChipX86 | scanlime: he's saying that we don't target gnome! |
| 22:46.33 | scanlime | hah |
| 22:49.09 | kergoth | ? |
| 22:49.50 | ChipX86 | kergoth: http://osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=12417&comment_id=52041 |
| 22:49.54 | ChipX86 | read that and the thread starting with my reply |
| 22:50.32 | ChipX86 | some people are too stupid to live |
| 22:51.49 | scanlime | wow |
| 23:05.29 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.33 | hardwire | BURN |
| 23:06.11 | hardwire | well.. I think this is the simplest module in the linux kernel. |
| 23:06.57 | hardwire | From: Christian Debt Help <ChristianDebtHelp@dovebay.com> |
| 23:06.57 | hardwire | Subject: Let us show you the path out of debt |
| 23:06.58 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:07.20 | kergoth | heh |
| 23:08.04 | kergoth | "get more in debt by giving the church your money, then GOD will get you out of debt" |
| 23:09.34 | scanlime | what the hell |
| 23:09.43 | scanlime | this is an XML file, designed to be machine-readable |
| 23:09.50 | scanlime | they include commas and whitespace in their numbers |
| 23:10.07 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:14.03 | hardwire | oh yeh.. the rfid sneakernet.. |
| 23:14.07 | hardwire | heh |
| 23:14.09 | scanlime | ChipX86: how do you crossport things to titanium at this point? |
| 23:14.22 | purple_cow | ``As mentioned, my version seemed light and springy, but perhaps Steingarten's are even lighter. I guess I'd have to make his to find out, but I'm still balking at the idea of twenty yolks! (How many meringues can you make before your family starts plotting an intervention? One recipe I have says you can make six meringue nests with one white, so twenty whites would yield 120 of them! Or I could make macaroons, which yield 8 cookies from one white, or |
| 23:14.22 | purple_cow | 160 from the 20 yolks. Yikes!)'' |
| 23:14.45 | hardwire | I just had an idea based off of the very simple idea of it... It would be super cool to make all your official documents have a small barcode.. and try to populate barcode readers at all the computers :) |
| 23:15.01 | ChipX86 | scanlime: p5 crossport changenum hosted2005 titanium |
| 23:15.06 | hardwire | you could even print your most recent documents to a business card :) |
| 23:15.06 | ChipX86 | unless you mean it's locked |
| 23:15.06 | purple_cow | teehee, pasta made from 20 egg yolks and a couple cups of flour |
| 23:15.21 | scanlime | ChipX86: oh, I was trying to go directly from main.. /me tries from hosted2005 |
| 23:15.53 | scanlime | yeah, looks like it's also locked |
| 23:16.09 | ChipX86 | does it say rc1? |
| 23:16.18 | scanlime | ? |
| 23:16.29 | ChipX86 | it should give a message about why it's locked |
| 23:16.41 | scanlime | I just get "no permission for operation on file(s)" |
| 23:16.47 | ChipX86 | oh |
| 23:16.48 | ChipX86 | p5? |
| 23:16.51 | scanlime | right |
| 23:16.54 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 23:16.56 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 23:18.41 | scanlime | the build site doesn't say anything about titanium being locked... |
| 23:20.37 | ChipX86 | haha I broke things for everybody |
| 23:21.05 | numist | :( |
| 23:22.02 | purple_cow | yay broke |
| 23:27.06 | ChipX86 | ok, so it was't my fault |
| 23:27.13 | ChipX86 | but I'll get yelled at by somebody anyway |
| 23:27.25 | ChipX86 | the libview update broke things because people didn't sync or something |
| 23:28.22 | numist | its time to drink |
| 23:28.33 | scanlime | see, numist gets right to the point |
| 23:28.46 | numist | yes, since my fscking code still doesnt work |
| 23:28.52 | numist | its time to drink and *then* fix the problem |
| 23:39.40 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/src/worldRender.cpp: more textures |
| 23:39.52 | ChipX86 | numist: look at that idiot |
| 23:41.34 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 23:43.41 | *** join/#tacobeam laodamas (n=cehoward@c-67-166-53-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.30 | darth_mall | purple_cow: where are you sending your resume to? or are you updating it just in case? |
| 23:45.39 | scanlime | sigh.. 32MB of XML, all in one line |
| 23:45.56 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i'm gonna apply for one of those vmware jobs, and see what happens |
| 23:46.13 | darth_mall | one of which vmware jobs? |
| 23:46.52 | purple_cow | are you on the cs-jobs mailing list? |
| 23:47.05 | purple_cow | they're looking for 5 UI dudes |
| 23:48.42 | darth_mall | I don't think I am on the cs-jobs mailing list |
| 23:48.50 | darth_mall | or it got filtered and I didn't notice |
| 23:49.50 | purple_cow | well, they're looking for UI dudes |
| 23:50.05 | purple_cow | and while there was some contact info in that email, i think it's better to go through scanlime or ChipX86 |
| 23:50.11 | ChipX86 | yes |
| 23:50.15 | scanlime | :) |
| 23:50.41 | ChipX86 | we'll get scanline the possible bonus and since it's the team I'm in, I can help speed up the process a little, I htink |
| 23:51.24 | darth_mall | cool |
| 23:51.37 | ChipX86 | scanlime: did you see this clown in #vmware? |
| 23:53.22 | CIA-5 | view: 03philipl * 10libview/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:53.22 | CIA-5 | view: Thu 27 Oct 16:47:51 PDT 2005 Philip Langdale <plangdale@vmware.com> |
| 23:53.22 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/autoDrawer.c |
| 23:53.22 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/autoDrawer.h |
| 23:53.22 | CIA-5 | view: * tests/test-auto-drawer.cc: |
| 23:53.24 | CIA-5 | view: - Whoops. There was one more public API call that the |
| 23:53.26 | CIA-5 | view: autoDrawer needed, but I forgot to add. It lets you |
| 23:54.05 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:57.49 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10tools/bzedit/ (inc/OSX/osxapp.h src/OSX/osxapp.cpp): more OSX event code |
