| 00:00.30 | kergoth | ~emulate fry |
| 00:00.33 | jbot | People said I was dumb, but I proved them. |
| 00:01.30 | kergoth | :D |
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| 00:31.59 | kergoth | hehe, rasputina - this little piggy. "This little piggy had roast beef.. and this little piggy had none. This piggy cried weeee weeee weeee.. all the way home, home, home.. all the way home.." |
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| 00:41.20 | kergoth | !emulate dib |
| 00:41.25 | kergoth | bah |
| 00:41.26 | kergoth | ~emulate dib |
| 00:41.27 | jbot | Oh you're just *begging* to face the MOOSE. |
| 00:46.47 | kergoth | purple_cow: did your ctrlproxy fixes get into cvs? |
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| 00:58.04 | purple_cow | kergoth: yeah. it was just a couple memory leaks. there are still some significant leaks in the repl plugins that i couldn't track down, so i've just turned off the backlog printing stuff |
| 00:58.12 | kergoth | one step at a time |
| 00:58.24 | kergoth | i wonder if the annoying +/-/ACTION prefix bug is fixed |
| 01:21.02 | rioter | does anyone know of a wireless router thats fairly cheap with qos? |
| 01:21.45 | kergoth | the wrt54gs has it, thogh i'm not sure how good it is on the default firmware |
| 01:21.49 | kergoth | can always reflash with an open source one |
| 01:21.59 | rioter | this is true |
| 01:22.44 | kergoth | :0 |
| 01:22.47 | kergoth | erm :) |
| 01:40.02 | kergoth | nullpuppy: ping |
| 01:41.33 | numist | I've never slept so much in my life, and by the same token, I've never been so tired |
| 01:41.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:41.40 | kergoth | too much sleep |
| 01:41.43 | numist | 2 all nighters in a row, the last one I'm driving through |
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| 01:41.51 | numist | oh no, theres a good reason I was tired :P |
| 01:42.05 | kergoth | nullpuppy: cedega doesnt appear to be very happy with wow |
| 01:42.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:42.15 | kergoth | i see a wow window.. |
| 01:42.18 | kergoth | but theres nothing in it :) |
| 02:03.07 | kergoth | damnit |
| 02:03.12 | kergoth | point2play hates me |
| 02:07.30 | Veight | i dont blame it :P |
| 02:11.57 | ChipX86 | strong headaches bad |
| 02:13.08 | rioter | that they are |
| 02:20.42 | kergoth | handhelds.org is down |
| 02:20.45 | kergoth | hence, my email is |
| 02:21.06 | kergoth | and i just subscribed to transgaming for cedega, but with my mailserver down, i didnt get the email with my password |
| 02:21.34 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 02:22.33 | kergoth | i emailed info@transgaming.com (being unable to locate a tech support address) describing the situation, asking them to switch it to my gmail address |
| 02:22.34 | kergoth | grr |
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| 02:45.52 | kergoth__ | grr |
| 02:48.08 | numist | oooh Carrie's hot tub is really nice.. I'm ready to sleep again |
| 02:48.30 | numist | hasnt ever been used in the time I've been around |
| 02:48.42 | rioter | carrie is your girlfriend? |
| 02:48.59 | numist | yep |
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| 02:49.04 | numist | been that way for a long while too |
| 02:49.12 | numist | oooh food... I'm going to enjoy being here this weekend |
| 02:49.19 | rioter | cool, although girlfriend + hot tub should be used alot |
| 02:49.37 | numist | rioter: it should, but it was too expensive to run until they got solar panels at her house |
| 02:49.44 | numist | itll happen more often now :) |
| 02:49.45 | rioter | ah right |
| 02:50.18 | rioter | how long you been together? |
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| 03:08.26 | kergoth | bleh |
| 03:08.30 | kergoth | svn ctrlproxy /hates/ me |
| 03:08.45 | rioter | its just fitting in with the rest of the world |
| 03:08.47 | rioter | *hides* |
| 03:09.16 | kergoth | refuses to replay the bits so that my clients know about the channels its joined |
| 03:09.16 | kergoth | so it seems |
| 03:10.21 | rioter | :( |
| 03:13.12 | scanlime | oh my god... |
| 03:13.38 | scanlime | ugh |
| 03:13.45 | scanlime | I let flapjack's disk fill up |
| 03:14.45 | scanlime | my gmail address now has an uncountable number of bounce messages from flapjack's mail server |
| 03:16.17 | numist | rioter: 3 years and change |
| 03:16.18 | rioter | for goodluck? |
| 03:16.22 | rioter | numist ah nice |
| 03:16.24 | numist | no, I ate |
| 03:16.25 | numist | :) |
| 03:17.06 | rioter | ah i should do that |
| 03:17.17 | numist | yeah, have someone else cook :D |
| 03:17.20 | numist | its really nice |
| 03:21.12 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r330 10prototype/src/ (XMLTV.java XMLTVHandler.java): |
| 03:21.12 | CIA-5 | smrt: Fill in the getListings function a bit. Run tv_grab_na_dd and pass the output to |
| 03:21.13 | CIA-5 | smrt: the SAXParser. |
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| 03:33.32 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r331 10prototype/src/XMLTVHandler.java: Some function stubs in the handler we'll most likely want. |
| 03:59.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r332 10prototype/src/ (XMLTV.java XMLTVHandler.java): |
| 03:59.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: Store channels in the handler, getListings returns the channel list from the |
| 03:59.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: handler. |
| 04:05.30 | ChipX86 | yay FLCL |
| 04:06.32 | purple_cow | :D |
| 04:07.26 | ChipX86 | those.. eyebrows.. |
| 04:10.15 | kergoth | hrm.. fresh installed WOW runs under cedega finally, but its laggy even at hte main menu |
| 04:10.23 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 04:13.52 | ChipX86 | http://www.bkmasks.com/ |
| 04:23.12 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r333 10prototype/ (smrt src/application/Xine.java): |
| 04:23.13 | CIA-5 | smrt: use the server hotspot compiler, and hardcode the xshm driver in the xine |
| 04:23.13 | CIA-5 | smrt: cmdline, for very-near realtime video playback. also start in on trying to get |
| 04:23.13 | CIA-5 | smrt: xine's stdctl stuff working, despite it's complete lack of documentation |
| 04:26.22 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r334 10prototype/src/ (Channel.java Programme.java): |
| 04:26.22 | CIA-5 | smrt: Another class for representing TV shows. Function to add attributes to a Channel |
| 04:26.22 | CIA-5 | smrt: as they're encountered in the XML. |
| 04:29.06 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r335 10prototype/src/application/Xine.java: Quit doesn't do anything, and Pause creates a non-fatal java exception. Seeking works! |
| 04:29.15 | purple_cow | Programme.java? |
| 04:30.10 | purple_cow | grmph |
| 04:30.34 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i don't care if you commit code that isn't being used yet, but please at least make sure it compiles :P |
| 04:30.56 | ChipX86 | Asian girl band made up of former men soars to the top of the charts |
| 04:31.31 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r336 10prototype/src/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Might as well move this stuff into its own package, lots of files now. |
| 04:33.33 | darth_mall | purple_cow: it compiles |
| 04:33.42 | purple_cow | hurray |
| 04:35.50 | CIA-5 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/server/ (4 files in 3 dirs): server side game class |
| 04:38.39 | slimspace | purple_cow, darth_mall: opinions: Should the cityscape table increase to fit the buildings, or should the buildings shrink to fit the table? |
| 04:40.35 | purple_cow | i'd implement it as the latter, but i think either way, we'll get the same effect |
| 04:40.53 | purple_cow | since if the table grew, we'd want to zoom out on it to display the whole thing |
| 04:41.11 | darth_mall | probably easier to shrink the building |
| 04:41.33 | purple_cow | woo, i can't wait to show off the x integration at our meeting |
| 04:41.36 | purple_cow | this is so awesome |
| 04:41.43 | slimspace | I was actually thinking it would be easier to expand the table. Statically sized icons with static spacing, we just have to worry about how to lay it out on a table. |
| 04:42.12 | darth_mall | slimspace: yeah, but then you have to figure out when the table is too big for the screen |
| 04:42.29 | slimspace | But I was also thinking that if the table got to be too big, the buildings would shrink into nothingness. So I was thinking maybe keeping a zoom low enough to make out the buildings well and just have the view pan around as the cursor moves. |
| 04:43.01 | purple_cow | we can do that either way you implement it |
| 04:43.03 | slimspace | I'd planned on having the selected building be centered in the view at all times, so the table would move anyway |
| 04:43.04 | purple_cow | so it doesn't really matter |
| 04:43.12 | slimspace | true |
| 04:43.36 | darth_mall | I think purple_cow's point that the end result is the same is good. Just do it whichever ends up being easier |
| 04:43.44 | slimspace | sounds good to me |
| 04:50.39 | purple_cow | hah, ok, so there was only 2 paragraphs on pueblo music in this book :P |
| 05:02.06 | scanlime | http://eventful.com/events/E0-001-000409339-9 |
| 05:03.12 | purple_cow | scanlime: neat |
| 05:07.02 | scanlime | Minimo needs to be ported to Symbian |
| 05:12.32 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r337 10prototype/src/tv/ (Channel.java Programme.java XMLTVElement.java): Base class for Channel and Programme. |
| 05:16.38 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r338 10prototype/src/tv/ (Channel.java XMLTVElement.java): List of known attributes/child elements for a channel element. |
| 05:17.53 | slimspace | so is there some trick to getting something to render from a LayoutManager3D class? |
| 05:18.40 | purple_cow | slimspace: don't create any objects within the LayoutManager |
| 05:18.52 | slimspace | hmm...ok |
| 05:19.05 | purple_cow | LayoutManager's only job is to set the positions & sizes of things |
| 05:19.14 | purple_cow | you can use set/changeScale, etc in there |
| 05:20.32 | purple_cow | keep in mind that right now, the table isn't a member of the container which is being managed by the layoutmanager |
| 05:21.13 | slimspace | ok, that makes sense |
| 05:23.04 | darth_mall | purple_cow: that's because that's how the tag is spelled in xmltv |
| 05:23.35 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 05:23.48 | purple_cow | darth_mall: whatever your reason, it's cool |
| 05:24.02 | purple_cow | just don't start using colours and initialise functions ;) |
| 05:24.22 | darth_mall | heh |
| 05:26.01 | slimspace | hmm...anyone know how to modify the geometry of a shape without deleting it and recreating it? |
| 05:26.10 | purple_cow | what do you mean? |
| 05:26.28 | slimspace | well, I want to be able to resize my Box object, but there doesn't seem to be a method for doing that. |
| 05:28.54 | purple_cow | slimspace: i'd set the actual vertices on the box to [0,0,0] and [1,1,1], then control the size entirely through scale matrices on the parent Component3D |
| 05:29.52 | purple_cow | that might cause troubles if we decide to start texturing things, but we can cross that bridge if we come to it |
| 05:30.21 | slimspace | well, there seems to be some way to get the Shape3D objects for each of the faces of the box, and alter that geometry...I wonder if that would work |
| 05:30.32 | purple_cow | maybe [-1,-1,-1], [1,1,1] if you want the object's origin to be at the center |
| 05:30.51 | purple_cow | slimspace: i think the actual underlying geometry is stored in display lists or compiled vertex arrays |
| 05:30.57 | purple_cow | modifying that will probably be a performance hit |
| 05:31.18 | slimspace | true, but it'll only be necessary on initial draw and when more items are added or deleted. |
| 05:31.22 | slimspace | Shouldn't be used very often |
| 05:31.26 | purple_cow | slimspace: if you |
| 05:31.53 | purple_cow | also, modifying each of the sides' vertices is more complicated than component.setScale() ;-) |
| 05:32.36 | slimspace | true, but it'll have better effects. I really don't want to scale the depth of the table too. Just make it longer and wider. |
| 05:32.52 | purple_cow | slimspace: there's a 3-component setScale |
| 05:33.07 | slimspace | is there? |
| 05:33.09 | slimspace | hmm... |
| 05:33.20 | slimspace | nm, that might just work better. |
| 05:34.05 | scanlime | wow |
| 05:34.28 | scanlime | so in some forum, I found about a 100-line proof-of-concept implementation of a google maps viewer in Python for symbian |
| 05:34.51 | scanlime | I had to hack it a bit to support HTTP proxies, and it currently has a very firefox-like memory 'cache' to supplement its disk cache |
| 05:34.55 | scanlime | but it's really snappy |
| 05:35.02 | purple_cow | cool |
| 05:35.26 | scanlime | I doubt I'll reuse much of this code, but this is definitely inspiration to make a more polished map browser in Python |
| 05:35.45 | purple_cow | shame signalsoft went out of business |
| 05:35.54 | purple_cow | otherwise you might have been able to include a "you are here" marker :) |
| 05:36.07 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:36.14 | scanlime | well.. there is a python API to get some location info from GSM |
| 05:36.19 | scanlime | it can give me a cell tower ID basically |
| 05:36.30 | scanlime | wonder if there's a freely accessible database mapping those to locations |
| 05:36.33 | scanlime | 'cuz that would rock |
| 05:37.05 | scanlime | I think this is also going to need a betterly organized disk cache.. it's just dumping all the tiles into one directory |
| 05:37.12 | scanlime | I doubt FAT disks really handle that well |
| 05:39.11 | scanlime | also, my implementation of a keyhole-like application for python must be called "pyhole" |
| 05:40.13 | purple_cow | hahahha |
| 05:40.14 | purple_cow | that's awesome |
| 05:40.35 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:41.12 | scanlime | heh, this one from the forum also has some pretty mad drawing artifacts while it's loading |
| 05:41.17 | scanlime | I mistook it for an EDA program at first |
| 05:41.47 | scanlime | hehe, symbian just killed the process |
| 05:41.56 | scanlime | guess it doesn't like having all of RAM filled with a 'cache' of PNGs |
| 06:01.01 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r339 10prototype/src/tv/ (Channel.java Programme.java XMLTVElement.java): Do some error checking for unknown attributes in channel tags. |
| 06:07.53 | scanlime | =D |
| 06:09.19 | scanlime | oh |
| 06:09.29 | scanlime | I was listening to bjork.. and forgot that it was a music video |
| 06:10.34 | scanlime | hmm, not since 2003 :( |
| 06:11.02 | scanlime | wow, she was in Red Rocks |
| 06:12.48 | darth_mall | Red Rocks is a very popular venue |
| 06:13.29 | purple_cow | i'm surprised she hasn't started a medulla tour yet |
| 06:13.36 | JayPee | scanlime: yo |
| 06:14.09 | darth_mall | she might not |
| 06:14.12 | scanlime | heyas JayPee |
| 06:14.24 | JayPee | how goes it? |
| 06:14.25 | ChipX86 | hey JayPee |
| 06:14.30 | JayPee | ChipX86: yo! |
| 06:14.35 | JayPee | what you two up to? |
| 06:14.41 | scanlime | not bad.. though my sleep schedule is quite fucked up right now :P |
| 06:14.54 | JayPee | scanlime: tell me about it; I took a nap from 3-6p today. |
| 06:15.00 | JayPee | Now I'm screwed |
| 06:15.09 | ChipX86 | mine's quite bad too at this point |
| 06:15.16 | ChipX86 | we should make it worse and have another hackfest |
| 06:15.21 | scanlime | then I slept until 8 PM! |
| 06:15.31 | scanlime | ChipX86: I think I might need that so mine rolls over |
| 06:15.38 | JayPee | I was actually thinking of going to the donut place and hacking on various things. |
| 06:15.42 | ChipX86 | tonight? |
| 06:15.47 | JayPee | Affirm |
| 06:15.47 | purple_cow | darth_mall: i dunno, she's done a tour for every album since debut |
| 06:16.02 | ChipX86 | sounds good to me |
| 06:16.04 | JayPee | but I couldn't decide |
| 06:16.06 | scanlime | hmm |
| 06:16.07 | scanlime | me too |
| 06:16.14 | ChipX86 | finishing AMV Hell 3 with Jamie first |
| 06:16.20 | JayPee | hehe |
| 06:16.30 | purple_cow | i suppose most of the songs on medulla are hard to do live |
| 06:16.37 | JayPee | well, if you two are up for it, I'm game |
| 06:16.40 | ChipX86 | I am |
| 06:17.02 | JayPee | ChipX86: what's the easiest way to get you there? |
| 06:17.10 | JayPee | scanlime: have we been imbibing tonight? ;-) |
| 06:17.12 | scanlime | I can pick you up if you want |
| 06:17.12 | ChipX86 | I can either walk a bit, or someone can pick me up? |
| 06:17.19 | ChipX86 | either way works |
| 06:17.29 | scanlime | JayPee: well, I have a glass of wine that only has a few sips missing... |
| 06:17.30 | JayPee | I can too; whatever's easiest |
| 06:17.34 | scanlime | I'll prolly just stick it in the fridge :) |
| 06:17.38 | JayPee | scanlime: gotcha |
| 06:17.46 | JayPee | You'd better not be doing that w/ red! |
| 06:18.07 | purple_cow | well, there *are* some reds that are good chilled, but they're few and far between |
| 06:18.23 | JayPee | ChipX86: I actually don't know where scanlime lives... so I don't know if it's easier for him or me to pick you up |
| 06:18.37 | numist | scanlime: hey, I slept until 6:20 today |
| 06:18.41 | numist | just crashed and burned |
| 06:18.49 | scanlime | numist: yeah |
| 06:19.03 | scanlime | I was expecting that from both of us, I just slept a couple hours longer than I expected |
| 06:19.09 | numist | I was pretty narcoleptic in the car too X_X |
| 06:19.12 | scanlime | ick |
| 06:19.21 | scanlime | you should have had some of that coffee :) |
| 06:19.21 | numist | yeah... that was pretty bad |
| 06:19.27 | scanlime | actually, I ended up catching the 10:00 train |
| 06:19.27 | numist | I cant drink coffee |
| 06:19.33 | numist | nice |
| 06:19.39 | scanlime | got hungry for something more substantial than a donut, so I picked up some soup and a roll from whole foods on the way back |
| 06:19.50 | scanlime | and chocolate covered espresso beans! |
| 06:19.51 | numist | I just walked in the door at Carries at 8, walked up to her bed, and collapsed |
| 06:19.53 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r340 10prototype/src/tv/Channel.java: Delete a FIXME |
| 06:19.57 | scanlime | hehe |
| 06:20.00 | scanlime | did you wake her up? |
| 06:20.05 | numist | kinda |
| 06:20.12 | scanlime | she probably deserved it |
| 06:20.14 | numist | she hugged me and rolled over to cuddle, it was good |
| 06:20.20 | scanlime | nice |
| 06:20.22 | numist | hey now, she's reading this now :P |
| 06:20.25 | numist | she just hopped in bed next to me |
| 06:20.38 | ChipX86 | hi Carrie! |
| 06:20.41 | scanlime | well, I should go take a shower and find some pants :P |
| 06:20.46 | numist | "Hi Chip" |
| 06:20.49 | ChipX86 | in that order would be best |
| 06:20.51 | JayPee | scanlime: haha |
| 06:20.51 | numist | yes, yes you should :P |
| 06:21.02 | scanlime | heh, I'm wearing shorts :P |
| 06:21.07 | scanlime | not sure where I put my pants before collapsing... |
| 06:21.07 | purple_cow | scanlime: story of my life |
| 06:21.09 | JayPee | so, we'll see you there? |
| 06:21.13 | numist | ChipX86 & scanlime: sushi tomo tomorrow? |
| 06:21.19 | ChipX86 | sure |
| 06:21.19 | scanlime | yep. who's picking up ChipX86? |
| 06:21.21 | ChipX86 | once we're alive again |
| 06:21.23 | numist | either of us |
| 06:21.27 | scanlime | numist: ooh, yes... |
| 06:21.28 | numist | I plan on sleeping tomorrow |
| 06:21.30 | numist | er.. tonight |
| 06:21.31 | ChipX86 | I can walk to sushi tomo |
| 06:21.46 | JayPee | ChipX86: I'll come get you |
| 06:21.48 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 06:21.50 | ChipX86 | give me a few |
| 06:21.52 | scanlime | ok |
| 06:21.53 | JayPee | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.57 | scanlime | I'll be there shortlyish |
| 06:21.59 | numist | hey JayPee comin too? sweet |
| 06:22.04 | JayPee | yeah, it'll take me a few too |
| 06:22.05 | numist | what time though |
| 06:22.18 | ChipX86 | numist: the donut shop for a hackfest |
| 06:22.18 | JayPee | I'll probably be there ~10 mins |
| 06:22.24 | numist | ah |
| 06:22.25 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 06:22.35 | numist | hrm.. if I had gas |
| 06:22.45 | JayPee | numist: I could be convinced to do sushi, but I'd have to a) not be sleeping and b) not be flying |
| 06:22.52 | JayPee | it looks like tomorrow may be iffy, though |
| 06:22.53 | numist | flying...? |
| 06:22.54 | JayPee | stupid clouds |
| 06:22.59 | JayPee | <--- student pilot |
| 06:23.00 | ChipX86 | numist should hack with us! |
| 06:23.08 | numist | god, Im getting flashbacks to working with John last summer :/ |
| 06:23.18 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r341 10prototype/src/tv/Channel.java: Channel stores an ArrayList of Programmes now. |
| 06:23.19 | numist | I should, but I have a warm bed for tonight |
| 06:23.59 | JayPee | Anyway, I'm off; ChipX86, I'll see you in a few; scanlime: see you there |
| 06:24.04 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 06:24.58 | numist | later guys... we're going to do something or other |
| 06:34.48 | slimspace | brilliant. Java doesn't catch divide by zero errors |
| 06:36.17 | purple_cow | it doesn't?! |
| 06:36.37 | purple_cow | and why are you dividing by zero? |
| 06:39.20 | numist | yay sleeping pills |
| 06:39.38 | numist | purple_cow: it doesnt catch() them, it just plain segfaults iirc |
| 06:39.47 | purple_cow | sweet |
| 06:40.07 | numist | ChipX86 / scanlime / JayPee: if you guys are up, I'll leave some sort of message in here at ~9 |
| 06:40.12 | slimspace | well, not in my case. It was just silently ignoring them |
| 06:40.16 | numist | oh nice |
| 06:40.48 | numist | what values were you getting from the code then? |
| 06:40.50 | numist | null> |
| 06:40.51 | numist | ? |
| 06:41.39 | slimspace | Not sure. Something invalid, because my box wasn't drawing like that. I'm wondering if maybe it set the value to inf instead of throwing an exception |
| 06:41.58 | purple_cow | entirely possible |
| 06:42.22 | purple_cow | either that or the java float type inherently supports the IEEE error fields |
| 06:42.47 | slimspace | could be |
| 06:43.18 | purple_cow | slimspace: you really should commit more often :) |
| 06:43.46 | purple_cow | even if it doesn't work, as long as it doesn't break things, it's fine to commit |
| 06:44.03 | slimspace | I know, I just don't think to |
| 06:48.24 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r342 10prototype/src/tv/XMLTVHandler.java: Start on the empty functions in the handler. |
| 06:56.18 | ChipX86 | numist: I doubt we'll be awake at 9 :) we'll see |
| 07:20.07 | scanlime | omg |
| 07:20.18 | scanlime | micah@sigma:~$ hcitool scan |
| 07:20.18 | scanlime | Scanning ... |
| 07:20.18 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.18 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.18 | scanlime | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.20 | scanlime | omgomg |
| 07:20.36 | scanlime | the entire Unicode path from bluetooth through gnome-terminal and xchat Just Works |
| 07:21.04 | scanlime | I wonder what that shows up as on my phone's bluetooth app.. |
| 07:22.14 | scanlime | heh.. rectangles |
| 07:22.18 | scanlime | at least it doesn't crash |
| 07:23.56 | purple_cow | scanlime: isn't it amazing when unicode works? |
| 07:24.04 | scanlime | it rocks |
| 07:24.31 | purple_cow | i was actually pretty upset when i ran into unicode issues with abiword & OOo |
| 07:24.55 | purple_cow | i've gotten so used to urxvt / xchat-gnome / firefox / etc all working |
| 07:25.56 | scanlime | nice |
| 07:30.31 | JayPee | purple_cow: what kind of class? |
| 07:31.00 | purple_cow | survey of middle-eastern/asian/oceanian music |
| 07:31.55 | JayPee | that's an interesting group of musical styles |
| 07:34.38 | purple_cow | well, they seem to group the "non-western music" courses mostly by hemisphere |
| 07:34.54 | purple_cow | which is as good a criteria as any, given the breadth they're trying to cover in one semester |
| 07:36.36 | JayPee | yeah |
| 07:37.30 | purple_cow | and musically i definitely prefer that side of the world to native american & african |
| 07:38.49 | purple_cow | clean, also |
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| 07:51.18 | lurgy | slimspace: in answer to your much earlier question: yeah, as far as i know crooks' sister (crookette?) lives up in #3 too |
| 07:53.06 | purple_cow | hehe, crookette |
| 08:00.08 | slimspace | ah |
| 08:00.11 | slimspace | thanks |
| 08:03.27 | purple_cow | oh wow |
| 08:03.37 | purple_cow | vanilla ice cream with some chambord poured on top is unbelievably awesome |
| 08:07.05 | JayPee | purple_cow: you should try it with drambuie |
| 08:07.42 | purple_cow | drambuie? |
| 08:08.00 | JayPee | Google it. ;-) |
| 08:08.09 | JayPee | couldn't remember how to spell it |
| 08:09.31 | purple_cow | not a whole lot of info on their web page. is it a scotch? |
| 08:09.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9118 10python/symbian/gallery.py: |
| 08:09.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Fixed up my gallery uploader script enough that I feel comfortable committing |
| 08:09.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: it. This incarnation reads directory names and passwords and such out of a |
| 08:09.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: config file, and looks for images to upload in an 'outbox' directory. After |
| 08:09.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: uploading, images get moved into an 'uploaded' directory. This means you can use |
| 08:09.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: other image capture and file management tools rather than relying on some silly |
| 08:09.39 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Python GUI |
| 08:10.32 | JayPee | Drambuie is a golden liqueur, based on Scotch whisky and sweetened with heather honey and flavored with different herbs. |
| 08:11.45 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 08:12.11 | purple_cow | ya know, i bet one could make a lot of money by opening an ice cream+liquor bar |
| 08:12.47 | JayPee | hahaha |
| 08:12.50 | JayPee | "No kids." |
| 08:15.00 | purple_cow | yep |
| 08:15.04 | purple_cow | only dessert bar with a bouncer :) |
| 08:15.48 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 07glib-port * r2173 10libgalago/ (14 files in 4 dirs): Merge from HEAD, r2172. |
| 08:16.56 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 07libgalago-glib-port * r2174 10galago-daemon/ (13 files in 3 dirs): Merge from HEAD, r2173. |
| 08:17.34 | scanlime | that's a great idea :) |
| 08:17.54 | scanlime | hmm, my GPRS isn't really noticeably slower when I only have one bar of reception |
| 08:18.02 | scanlime | and voice quality didn't seem to be affected either |
| 08:18.06 | scanlime | JayPee: here here! |
| 08:18.31 | scanlime | I think the whole concept of "signal strength" was invented by cellular networks to foster competition |
| 08:18.46 | JayPee | "It's the network, it's the network, it's the network!" |
| 08:22.09 | slimspace | purple_cow: do you have any idea why a table I create in the CityScape class would fail to rotate with the container, but the buildings I add do? |
| 08:22.59 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 07old-object * r2175 10libgalago/: Time to get serious here. Branch off trunk/libgalago (r2174) to old-object in preparation for moving the glib branches to trunk. |
| 08:23.00 | purple_cow | slimspace: commit? |
| 08:23.05 | scanlime | http://zero.navi.cx/gallery/micah-mobile/Image_021 |
| 08:23.06 | slimspace | one sec |
| 08:23.09 | scanlime | lookit that amazing image quality! |
| 08:23.16 | purple_cow | scanlime: shock! |
| 08:23.43 | scanlime | they all look great on the thumbnail page :) |
| 08:23.59 | purple_cow | now you just need to write some rgb-despeckle stuff in python ;) |
| 08:24.06 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r343 10prototype/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Well, buildings render, more or less...can't seem to get the rotation to work right. |
| 08:24.25 | purple_cow | figure out the noise pattern on your camera's CCD :) |
| 08:24.50 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 07old-object * r2176 10galago-daemon/: Branch trunk/galago-daemon off to old-object (r2175). |
| 08:24.50 | scanlime | hehe, yes |
| 08:25.08 | scanlime | I did that on some cheap webcams a while back with OpenCv |
| 08:31.04 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r344 10prototype/src/menu/ (CityLayout.java CityScape.java): mostly ws, but also make table a member of the menu's sub-container |
| 08:31.13 | purple_cow | slimspace: i'm getting some cast exceptions here, dunno if that's right or not |
| 08:31.13 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2177 10/trunk/ (galago-daemon/ libgalago/): |
| 08:31.13 | CIA-5 | galago: Nuke galago-daemon and libgalago from trunk. I should have moved these into |
| 08:31.14 | CIA-5 | galago: their branches. It's too much of a pain to do merging now. You know the saying.. |
| 08:31.14 | CIA-5 | galago: You can lead a duck to water, but revision control systems SUCK! |
| 08:31.37 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9119 10python/symbian/gmap.py: Adding my slightly modified version of the 's60_gmap' script from the Nokia forums |
| 08:32.04 | slimspace | I'm not getting anything |
| 08:32.22 | purple_cow | when you select "Browse /tmp" ? |
| 08:32.38 | slimspace | oh, haven't tried running it |
| 08:33.35 | slimspace | hmm, no video-tmp menu items found. That what you're talking about? |
| 08:34.20 | slimspace | yeah, I tried adding that in like you did, and got that error every time |
| 08:34.46 | purple_cow | java.lang.RuntimeException: No Menu object found in menu "video-tmp" |
| 08:34.58 | slimspace | yup |
| 08:35.01 | purple_cow | with some cast exceptions & a null ptr exception above it |
| 08:35.05 | slimspace | yeah. |
| 08:35.17 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2178 10/ (branches/libgalago/glib-port/ trunk/libgalago/): Moved branches/libgalago/glib-port to trunk/libgalago. |
| 08:35.21 | purple_cow | it's ok to have a menu w/o items, just not items w/o a menu :) |
| 08:36.01 | slimspace | well, it worked just fine without adding the table as a member. |
| 08:36.24 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2179 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Moved branches/galago-daemon/libgalago-glib-port to trunk/galago-daemon. |
| 08:36.38 | purple_cow | so it does |
| 08:37.56 | purple_cow | ohh, i see how you meant this |
| 08:39.39 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r345 10prototype/ (4 files in 2 dirs): more ws, revert back to the hierarchy cory meant |
| 08:39.56 | ChipX86 | I somehow read that as hierarchy orgy |
| 08:40.08 | purple_cow | hierarchy orgies are good too |
| 08:40.10 | ChipX86 | very |
| 08:40.17 | purple_cow | slimspace: ok, so what's the problem? :) |
| 08:40.56 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9120 10python/symbian/gmap.py: e:\maps -> e:\system\data\maps, to avoid cluttering the root of symbian's already cluttered filesystem |
| 08:42.31 | slimspace | hmm, now it won't work |
| 08:42.36 | slimspace | s/work/run |
| 08:42.39 | purple_cow | oh? |
| 08:42.55 | slimspace | I get the same exception as before. |
| 08:43.03 | purple_cow | did you rebuild? :P |
| 08:43.06 | slimspace | yup |
| 08:43.11 | slimspace | er, maybe not |
| 08:43.28 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:44.17 | slimspace | ok, it runs. But the problem remains. See the table and the box? If everything was working right with rotations, the box should be centered on top of the table. |
| 08:44.31 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r346 10prototype/src/menu/CityScape.java: make the table more aerodynamically cool |
| 08:44.55 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2180 10galago-daemon/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:44.55 | CIA-5 | galago: - Get rid of the person DB support. I have a much better implementation in mind, and with any luck, I'll remember it after tonight. |
| 08:44.55 | CIA-5 | galago: - Bump the version to 0.3.4.90. |
| 08:45.15 | purple_cow | oh, ok, i think i see what to do |
| 08:45.26 | scanlime | hmm |
| 08:45.32 | scanlime | when did google maps switch to 256x256 tiles? |
| 08:48.41 | purple_cow | oh no! i lost the box! |
| 08:48.48 | slimspace | ^^ |
| 08:48.57 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2181 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog configure.ac): Bump the version to 0.3.3.90. |
| 08:49.13 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2182 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog configure.ac src/main.c): Compile against the new glib port of libgalago. |
| 08:50.18 | scanlime | http://mt.google.com/mt?v=w2.5&x=0&y=0&zoom=17 |
| 08:50.20 | scanlime | that's cute |
| 08:50.38 | purple_cow | yay projections |
| 08:51.00 | purple_cow | i'll bet you didn't know that antartica was over half the land-mass of the entire world |
| 08:51.13 | scanlime | yup |
| 08:51.40 | JayPee | one of the cooler uses of Google maps I have seen: |
| 08:51.44 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r347 10prototype/src/menu/ (CityLayout.java CityScape.java): step 1: move one-time table transformations into the CityScape constructor |
| 08:51.48 | JayPee | http://www.zigamorph.net/quakes.cgi |
| 09:00.06 | purple_cow | slimspace: got it |
| 09:00.09 | JayPee | purple_cow: the red dots are republican earthquakes; the blue dots are democrat earthquakes |
| 09:00.38 | slimspace | purple_cow: oh? |
| 09:00.44 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r348 10prototype/src/menu/ (CityLayout.java CityScape.java): get transformations squared away |
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| 09:06.34 | slimspace | well, getting closer anyway |
| 09:07.17 | purple_cow | that xyz calculation in layoutContainer is pretty complicated |
| 09:07.49 | slimspace | yeah, more so than it should be |
| 09:08.01 | purple_cow | you might want to split it out into well-commented :) |
| 09:08.12 | purple_cow | err, well-commented steps |
| 09:08.17 | slimspace | when I get it working I will |
| 09:08.29 | purple_cow | well, i mean, it may help to get it working :P |
| 09:08.46 | slimspace | you've got everything aligned nicely, but it only works for one building. If I add two, it goes all to hell. |
| 09:08.52 | purple_cow | hurray! |
| 09:08.52 | slimspace | but then again I never got that working |
| 09:11.28 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2183 10libgalago/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Remove galago_glib_init() and make galago_init() do all the glibby stuff. Updated all test feeds appropriately. |
| 09:14.57 | purple_cow | slimspace: the way i got it to work is by giving the container the same translation as the table, then setting translations on the components only in layoutContainer() |
| 09:15.11 | purple_cow | so the "origin" for the components is the center of the table |
| 09:15.43 | slimspace | yeah, I saw that |
| 09:16.01 | slimspace | works nicely, but it'll make it hard to move things around when I want to shift the position of the table |
| 09:16.26 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2184 10galago-daemon/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Use galago_init() instead of galago_glib_init(). |
| 09:16.33 | slimspace | well, maybe not...as long as I don't mess with rotations |
| 09:17.05 | purple_cow | one thing you could do is make the table a member of container, than give it some special treatment inside layoutContainer (by testing if(component == table) before casting to Building) |
| 09:17.27 | purple_cow | or even making the table a building itself :) |
| 09:17.42 | slimspace | I'd considered both of those actually |
| 09:17.59 | purple_cow | since we'll want to have buildings acting kind of like the table does when you're navigated to lower levels of the tree |
| 09:19.03 | purple_cow | generally we'll want those "camera" transformations to apply to everything, so putting it all in one container is probably the easiest way to do that |
| 09:19.36 | slimspace | yeah |
| 09:19.38 | purple_cow | then you also don't need to worry about tearing if we decide to animate those transformations using lg3d's animation stuff (since iirc that's all threaded) |
| 09:20.42 | scanlime | har, tearing? |
| 09:21.31 | scanlime | I'd think you would either double-buffer the animation, or use locks to be sure objects only moved between frames |
| 09:21.55 | scanlime | but this wouldn't be java if you didn't use threads for no particular reason |
| 09:22.10 | purple_cow | scanlime: not frame tearing |
| 09:22.18 | purple_cow | tearing between object positions |
| 09:22.46 | scanlime | I know |
| 09:22.50 | scanlime | I still think it's silly |
| 09:23.07 | purple_cow | it'd be a question of how their timer stuff worked |
| 09:23.32 | purple_cow | and since things are simpler and avoid that problem if it's all just inside one container, it makes sense to do it that way |
| 09:24.42 | purple_cow | even if objects only move between frames, if one object moves at the beginning of the frame and another at the end, you'd end up with a kind of jello-like effect :) |
| 09:27.00 | purple_cow | and because it's all java, it's not video-card limited |
| 09:28.45 | scanlime | :) |
| 09:28.59 | scanlime | ooh, userscripts.org |
| 09:29.16 | scanlime | you know it's Web 2.0 because the tags are all different sizes |
| 09:29.31 | purple_cow | yep |
| 09:32.18 | scanlime | haha |
| 09:32.34 | scanlime | ever tried zooming out all the way on google maps, then dragging the map vertically, to watch the scale change? |
| 09:32.49 | scanlime | I don't know why they bother including a scale at all on such wide views, when the map projection obviously makes it useless |
| 09:37.22 | purple_cow | haha, that's funny |
| 09:39.53 | purple_cow | http://david.navi.cx/tmp/small-world.png |
| 09:40.21 | purple_cow | it's a bit buggy :) |
| 09:40.59 | scanlime | that's awesome :) |
| 09:41.13 | scanlime | well, I'm sure it's using the center of the map as a reference point for the scale |
| 09:41.18 | scanlime | but still |
| 09:48.29 | slimspace | hrm... |
| 09:48.48 | slimspace | well, the buildings look all really nice, but now I'm getting strange z-ordering in the back |
| 09:54.57 | slimspace | wow, I wonder if the guys at Sun ever learned about type coersion... |
| 09:55.30 | purple_cow | slimspace: try turning off the alpha component |
| 09:55.40 | slimspace | of the table? |
| 09:55.51 | purple_cow | of everything |
| 09:55.57 | slimspace | hmm...ok |
| 09:56.09 | purple_cow | i think there's some magic we need to do to get it to z-sort blended objects, but i don't know what that is |
| 09:58.22 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2185 10eds-feed/ (ChangeLog src/main.c): Use galago_init() instead of galago_glib_init(). |
| 09:59.55 | slimspace | purple_cow: didn't work |
| 10:00.02 | slimspace | the table is still covering the back buildings |
| 10:00.28 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2186 10libgalago/ (ChangeLog libgalago/galago-person.c): Only attempt to unref a person's photo if the photo isn't already being destroyed. |
| 10:00.39 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 10:00.55 | purple_cow | slimspace: you might try simplifying the rotations for now |
| 10:01.09 | purple_cow | i'm not yet sure in what order things are applied |
| 10:01.28 | slimspace | ok |
| 10:36.37 | scanlime | ooh, a web application with a cache eviction policy! |
| 10:36.43 | scanlime | this must be groundbreaking |
| 10:41.50 | purple_cow | slimspace: i think the lack of type coercion was a deliberate design decision |
| 10:41.59 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2187 10libgalago/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added a "changed" signal to GalagoPresence, which is emitted whenever a status is added, removed, or changed, or the idle time is changed. |
| 10:57.38 | ChipX86 | hmm, sleep is starting to sound good |
| 11:11.46 | JayPee | ChipX86: Affirm |
| 11:17.13 | CIA-5 | galago: 03chipx86 * r2188 10libgalago-gtk/ (18 files in 3 dirs): Converted the widgets to work with the new libgalago glib code. It most likely doesn't work, though. |
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| 12:41.32 | scanlime | huh |
| 12:41.41 | scanlime | the google maps data in japan isn't antialiased |
| 12:56.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03darkstar62 * r349 10prototype/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:56.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: That's enough for tonight. Got a preliminary no-thrills cityscape menu up and |
| 12:56.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: running, including selection using transparency. The menu can expand and fit |
| 12:56.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: any amount of items, although there's a limit as to how many you can fit on the |
| 12:56.55 | CIA-5 | smrt: screen. Next up, animation and camera effects. Oh, and text. |
| 13:15.49 | Veight` | anyone awake? |
| 14:02.16 | file[laptop] | ... |
| 14:06.03 | scanlime | oh, that's what it is... |
| 14:06.18 | scanlime | Google switched both their map databases over to a Mercator projection |
| 14:06.26 | scanlime | probably at about the same time they added the hybrid view |
| 14:26.59 | file[laptop] | ^.^ |
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| 16:51.37 | file | god my coworker and I are such geeks |
| 16:52.39 | file | we're setting up gre tunnels to our houses to the network at work, and routing ourselves /28s |
| 17:01.00 | pagefault | that is so geeky |
| 17:02.33 | file | what's sad is that we're switching providers... getting rid of Cogent |
| 17:02.42 | file | so, our 100Mbps cogent circuit isn't being used right now - at all :( |
| 17:02.46 | kergoth | sigh |
| 17:02.48 | kergoth | cedega hates me |
| 17:03.06 | pagefault | because of the level3 thing? |
| 17:03.12 | file | pagefault: yeah |
| 17:03.21 | file | we're going for Limelight, UUnet, and Level3 ;) |
| 17:04.20 | file | maybe Peer1 instead of Level3, haven't decided yet |
| 17:05.31 | file | instant reverse delegation over my block though... mmm |
| 17:06.12 | Sophie197 | y0 tacobeam |
| 17:06.18 | Sophie197 | yhaazzuuup? |
| 17:06.19 | file | Sophie!!! |
| 17:06.28 | Sophie197 | heya file! |
| 17:06.54 | Sophie197 | slut. |
| 17:06.58 | file | I didn't do that! honest! |
| 17:07.05 | Sophie197 | I know :) |
| 17:07.10 | Sophie197 | whatcha been up to? |
| 17:07.27 | file | nothin', nothin' |
| 17:07.29 | file | et tu? |
| 17:07.55 | Sophie197 | not so much. updating my online presence, reading a book |
| 17:08.00 | file | ooh book |
| 17:08.01 | Sophie197 | thinkin' bout food |
| 17:08.13 | file | equally as good |
| 17:08.26 | Sophie197 | yep, ignoring my homework |
| 17:09.32 | file | I wonder how much a soekris board is |
| 17:11.15 | Sophie197 | I wonder how much a snickers bar is |
| 17:11.38 | file | Sophie197: Canadian, or US? |
| 17:12.10 | kergoth | damnit damnit damnit |
| 17:12.25 | kergoth | cant get wow working in cedega on my xpc (ati, amd64, ubuntu) |
| 17:12.27 | kergoth | :( |
| 17:12.31 | CIA-5 | view: 03philipl * 10libview/ (ChangeLog configure.ac libview/drawer.c libview/ovBox.c): |
| 17:12.31 | CIA-5 | view: Sun 23 Oct 10:11:32 PDT 2005 Philip Langdale <plangdale@vmware.com> |
| 17:12.32 | CIA-5 | view: * configure.ac |
| 17:12.32 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/drawer.c |
| 17:12.32 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/ovBox.c: |
| 17:12.32 | CIA-5 | view: - Make libview compile with DISABLE_DEPRECATIONS. |
| 17:12.52 | file | kergoth: the world doesn't seem to like you |
| 17:12.55 | kergoth | its like the lib32 opengl isnt 3d accelerated or something |
| 17:12.58 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r350 10prototype/src/tv/XMLTVHandler.java: Use a HashMap for the channel list to map ids to Channel objects. |
| 17:13.11 | kergoth | not sure how to test that, since id ont have any 32 bit binaries to test with handy |
| 17:13.13 | file | kergoth: status of job btw? |
| 17:13.28 | kergoth | file: boss emailed me. if i go into work on monday, i'll still have a job. if i dont, i wont. |
| 17:13.31 | kergoth | so thats good news |
| 17:13.33 | file | ah |
| 17:16.12 | darth_mall | kergoth: trouble at work? |
| 17:16.36 | kergoth | darth_mall: i missed work last week. all of last week. without calling in. |
| 17:16.40 | kergoth | depression is bad, mmk? |
| 17:16.40 | darth_mall | oops |
| 17:16.42 | kergoth | :( |
| 17:16.53 | kergoth | got back on my antidepressents that i was on in tx now |
| 17:16.59 | kergoth | so that should help |
| 17:17.00 | darth_mall | yum |
| 17:17.04 | pagefault | yay drugs |
| 17:17.07 | kergoth | yay |
| 17:17.13 | kergoth | DAMN YOU CEDEGA |
| 17:17.20 | kergoth | at least i paid. i should go put in a support request |
| 17:17.22 | pagefault | whats wrong with it |
| 17:17.32 | kergoth | point2play insists that i dont have working 3d. |
| 17:17.37 | kergoth | depsite fgl_glxgears working flawlessly |
| 17:17.40 | pagefault | oh |
| 17:17.42 | kergoth | and glxinfo showing direct rendering enabled |
| 17:17.45 | pagefault | I tend to not use that app |
| 17:17.47 | pagefault | I just run it directly |
| 17:17.53 | kergoth | wow fails miserably with or without it |
| 17:17.56 | kergoth | hangs entering world |
| 17:18.04 | kergoth | if i do -opengl, it says it cant init 3d at all |
| 17:18.10 | pagefault | they don't care about ATI owners |
| 17:18.32 | pagefault | did you add gxDepthBits "24" to your config |
| 17:18.33 | kergoth | i'm not sure if thats the issue, or if its something wrong with my lib32 opengl |
| 17:18.37 | pagefault | you need it for opengl to work |
| 17:18.42 | kergoth | yes, i tried setting those 3 options for opengl |
| 17:18.43 | pagefault | err gl |
| 17:18.46 | kergoth | the ones advised in the wiki |
| 17:18.50 | kergoth | same behavior, cant init 3d |
| 17:19.15 | pagefault | hmm |
| 17:19.23 | pagefault | did you try normal wine cvs? |
| 17:19.27 | kergoth | not yet |
| 17:19.38 | kergoth | all my tests were with 64 bit apps |
| 17:19.39 | pagefault | i've been having more luck with that than with cedgea lately |
| 17:19.42 | kergoth | glxinfo, glxgears, fgl_glxgears |
| 17:20.09 | pagefault | but after I play WoW in linux I just want to come back to windows again |
| 17:20.14 | pagefault | it just runs so much better |
| 17:20.41 | pagefault | it's really almost unplayable in org |
| 17:20.51 | kergoth | having been in windows for this long, being back in linux is a huge relief. so responsive |
| 17:21.01 | kergoth | i do have a dual boot setup though. can reboot to play wow if need be |
| 17:21.01 | pagefault | hehe |
| 17:21.03 | kergoth | just a pain in the ass |
| 17:21.05 | pagefault | yeah I mean windows for gaming |
| 17:36.47 | pagefault | xinerama support is good |
| 17:36.54 | pagefault | I still can't believe they finally supported it |
| 17:42.17 | CIA-5 | view: 03philipl * 10libview/ (ChangeLog libview/drawer.h libview/ovBox.h): |
| 17:42.17 | CIA-5 | view: Sun 23 Oct 10:40:57 PDT 2005 Philip Langdale <plangdale@vmware.com> |
| 17:42.17 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/drawer.h |
| 17:42.17 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/ovBox.h: |
| 17:42.17 | CIA-5 | view: - The headers should be updated too, even if they still compile. |
| 17:42.53 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r351 10prototype/src/tv/ (Channel.java Programme.java XMLTVHandler.java): Handle programme and channel tags. |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-5 | view: 03philipl * 10libview/ (ChangeLog libview/drawer.c libview/ovBox.c): |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-5 | view: Sun 23 Oct 10:51:15 PDT 2005 Philip Langdale <plangdale@vmware.com> |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/drawer.c |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-5 | view: * libview/ovBox.c: |
| 17:52.05 | CIA-5 | view: - gtk_type_class is not deprecated per-se but has a replacement. |
| 17:59.06 | kergoth | heh, cant build wine cvs, fails to find a 32 bit version of libc |
| 17:59.10 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:00.09 | numist | hey cool, we can watch libview from here |
| 18:00.26 | file | indeed |
| 18:08.31 | darth_mall | yay |
| 18:08.39 | darth_mall | Arachnaphobia on TV |
| 18:12.03 | darth_mall | hehe... spiders are so cool |
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| 18:15.06 | scanlime | mwahaha |
| 18:15.16 | scanlime | this caching mechanism in my google maps browser is working really nicely |
| 18:15.39 | scanlime | I wouldn't be surprised at all if this ends up being snappier than google's AJAX frontend |
| 18:15.52 | numist | scanlime: you're still awake? 0_o |
| 18:16.11 | scanlime | yeah |
| 18:16.13 | numist | wowsers |
| 18:16.20 | scanlime | heh |
| 18:16.42 | numist | I'm really glad I slept last night |
| 18:33.30 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r352 10prototype/src/tv/ (4 files): Some renaming of things. Stub for character function for extracting data. |
| 18:38.41 | scanlime | "100 years ago? That's this year!" |
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| 19:06.49 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9121 10python/symbian/pyhole.py: It still needs a lot of work, but this is now a fairly snappy disk-cached Google Maps browser written in Python for Symbian phones |
| 19:09.16 | lurgy | hehe |
| 19:09.18 | lurgy | pyhole |
| 19:12.43 | scanlime | symbian has a very odd concurrency model |
| 19:13.18 | scanlime | it supports threads, but the UI uses this "active object" mechanism of lightweight cooperative multitasking |
| 19:13.34 | scanlime | so odd things end up getting re-entered at odd times, and you end up with very little stack space left |
| 19:23.29 | darth_mall | I love John Goodman |
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| 20:04.20 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r353 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: whoops, didn't commit this |
| 20:27.35 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r354 10prototype/src/menu/ (Building.java CityLayout.java): ws |
| 20:28.00 | file | pagefault: eep |
| 20:30.49 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r355 10prototype/src/ (18 files in 2 dirs): make copyrights consistent |
| 20:35.26 | purple_cow | yep |
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| 20:51.20 | ChipX86 | *stretch* |
| 20:52.30 | file[laptop] | hey Chip |
| 20:53.47 | ChipX86 | guess my grandpa is doing okay, but he's staying another night in the hospital.. *sigh* |
| 20:53.52 | numist | :( |
| 20:53.58 | ChipX86 | getting stuff packed just in case |
| 20:54.25 | numist | whats going on with him? |
| 20:54.44 | pagefault | I still can't believe they finally supported it |
| 20:54.45 | pagefault | err |
| 20:54.47 | pagefault | oops |
| 20:56.01 | ChipX86 | numist: well, he has a heart condition, and was going to die over 20 years ago if not for a then experimental quadruple bypass surgery |
| 20:56.16 | ChipX86 | there was some issue with his medication I guess the other day and he's been in the hospital since last night |
| 20:57.08 | numist | wow 4xbypass surgery |
| 20:57.41 | numist | thats a tough fella |
| 20:57.44 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 20:57.50 | ChipX86 | I worry every single day about him |
| 20:57.54 | numist | :( |
| 20:58.05 | ChipX86 | which I'm pretty sure is why I have nightmares on almost a nightly basis |
| 20:58.40 | numist | you know what you eed? |
| 20:58.43 | numist | er.. need |
| 20:59.52 | ChipX86 | what? |
| 21:10.52 | scanlime | damnit, I HATE it when this happens |
| 21:11.02 | scanlime | the symbian API has the world's most common graphics fencepost bug |
| 21:11.49 | ChipX86 | what bug? |
| 21:12.18 | scanlime | so they define rectangles as an (x1, y1, x2, y2) tuple, which they describe as the "top-left and bottom-right corners" |
| 21:12.50 | numist | sushi |
| 21:12.51 | scanlime | when you use this to render a rectangle outline, it actually renders the bottom-right pixel at (x2-1, y2-1) |
| 21:12.56 | scanlime | that in itself isn't incorrect |
| 21:13.05 | scanlime | it just depends on which corner of that bottom-right pixel you're measuring |
| 21:13.36 | scanlime | but when you render a filled rectangle, it measures those corners one pixel shorter |
| 21:14.01 | scanlime | so you end up with a border that's 2 pixels wide on one side and 1 pixel on the other side if you render a rectangle with both a fill and an outline |
| 21:14.12 | ChipX86 | ugh |
| 21:18.28 | numist | I need to hit a Fry's today or sommat |
| 21:19.16 | purple_cow | ooh, the music library is open until 10 today |
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| 21:21.43 | scanlime | ohh, bah |
| 21:21.51 | scanlime | this isn't an off-by-one bug in symbian |
| 21:22.10 | scanlime | it just looks off-center because it's bright red |
| 21:22.12 | numist | hrm, I need to get a webcam and flash drive for carrie and her mom... |
| 21:22.18 | scanlime | so I'm only seeing the leftmost subpixel on :P |
| 21:22.36 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 21:22.46 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 21:23.19 | numist | scanlime/ChipX86: wheres the closes Fry's or decent electronics store to me here? |
| 21:23.28 | laodamas | http://www.pwned.nl/ayb/ |
| 21:24.45 | scanlime | numist: I think the closest fry's to you might be the one in palo alto :( |
| 21:24.52 | numist | well lets go! |
| 21:24.56 | numist | >_> |
| 21:24.58 | ChipX86 | we could go there after sushi |
| 21:25.13 | numist | hrm... I should have that address memorized by now |
| 21:26.42 | numist | oof, hour and a half each way |
| 21:26.52 | numist | to tomo |
| 21:27.00 | ChipX86 | ow |
| 21:27.08 | numist | well, guess I should leave now then |
| 21:27.31 | file[laptop] | numist: don't get lost. |
| 21:27.33 | numist | will everyone be in a sushi mood in an hour and a bit? |
| 21:27.41 | ChipX86 | I think so |
| 21:27.41 | numist | file[laptop]: wont happen, this is my town :D |
| 21:27.43 | scanlime | today? |
| 21:27.51 | numist | scanlime: ~ 4pm |
| 21:27.58 | numist | bit earlier, really |
| 21:28.00 | scanlime | prolly not me |
| 21:28.11 | numist | hehe |
| 21:28.21 | ChipX86 | woah, my scroll wheel's tilt thing works now |
| 21:28.21 | numist | right then |
| 21:28.23 | scanlime | I'm in a deep hack mode on this stupid map program |
| 21:28.28 | numist | oh hell, I didnt plug in my phone.. its completely shot |
| 21:29.45 | purple_cow | yay for stupid map programs |
| 21:30.02 | numist | oh noes, I cant find my charger either |
| 21:30.56 | numist | ah there |
| 21:31.35 | ChipX86 | somehow mine expired |
| 21:31.48 | ChipX86 | I think I grabbed one of the betas that times out |
| 21:32.09 | scanlime | there goes ChipX86 with his warez... |
| 21:32.12 | numist | hehe |
| 21:32.13 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 21:32.15 | numist | ok, leaving nowish |
| 21:32.18 | numist | see you there |
| 21:32.21 | ChipX86 | wait |
| 21:32.23 | numist | wait? |
| 21:32.26 | ChipX86 | what time are we meeting there? |
| 21:32.34 | numist | Id say roughly 4 |
| 21:32.38 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 21:32.43 | numist | maybe a bit earlier... Ill call when I hit el camino |
| 21:32.46 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 21:33.29 | numist | :) |
| 21:46.49 | purple_cow | hahaha |
| 21:46.53 | purple_cow | ``Old n' busted: the metrosexual. New hotness: the ubersexual'' |
| 21:47.46 | ChipX86 | oohh |
| 21:47.50 | ChipX86 | Trying to find a suitable vmmon module for your running kernel. |
| 21:47.50 | ChipX86 | The module bld-2.6.12-9-i686up-Ubuntu5.10 loads perfectly in the running kernel. |
| 21:48.20 | ChipX86 | that makes me so happy |
| 21:49.27 | orchid | ubersexual? |
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| 21:49.54 | orchid | ah |
| 21:50.16 | ChipX86 | ooh, GNOME Art Manager is a good program |
| 21:50.41 | purple_cow | http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1598631,00.html |
| 21:51.32 | orchid | Bono is the world's leading ubersexual. |
| 21:52.44 | ChipX86 | shame it segfaults |
| 21:54.06 | kergoth | bleh |
| 21:54.20 | kergoth | time to spend some more time struggling with cedega |
| 21:54.21 | ChipX86 | ooh pretty splashs creen |
| 21:57.10 | purple_cow | haha, a challenger used shochu to sterilize raw meat |
| 21:58.53 | ChipX86 | hah, the Gartoon icon theme is cute |
| 22:01.23 | kergoth | ! |
| 22:01.28 | kergoth | i got wow working in cedega |
| 22:01.29 | kergoth | yay |
| 22:02.05 | ChipX86 | does it work well? |
| 22:02.15 | kergoth | dont know yet, too many variables |
| 22:02.28 | kergoth | all my configs are out of whack due to me trying EVERYTHING to get it working |
| 22:02.35 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 22:02.37 | file[laptop] | kergoth: that made me smile |
| 22:16.53 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/other/DSCF0090.2.JPG |
| 22:17.02 | kergoth | veight on the left, my dog and my stepdad in the middle, me on the right |
| 22:18.07 | purple_cow | you really need to change the hair |
| 22:18.45 | kergoth | why? |
| 22:19.01 | purple_cow | because it's fugly |
| 22:19.47 | darth_mall | pff |
| 22:19.58 | JayPee | pff. |
| 22:20.07 | ChipX86 | pff |
| 22:20.14 | ChipX86 | JayPee: just wake up? |
| 22:20.17 | JayPee | ChipX86: yes. |
| 22:20.22 | JayPee | No flying for me today |
| 22:20.25 | ChipX86 | aww |
| 22:20.26 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:20.29 | JayPee | despite the fact that the weather is ok. |
| 22:20.33 | file[laptop] | Veight is scary |
| 22:21.02 | kergoth | he's taller than i am already, and he's only 15 :) |
| 22:21.42 | file[laptop] | pure evilness |
| 22:34.13 | JayPee | I hate automerge. |
| 22:34.25 | file[laptop] | JayPee: does it hate you back? |
| 22:34.42 | JayPee | Yes. |
| 22:34.49 | JayPee | This is why it sends me so much useless email |
| 22:34.57 | JayPee | 200+ messages every day at noon |
| 22:35.06 | file[laptop] | :( |
| 22:36.58 | JayPee | thank you. |
| 22:37.09 | JayPee | I shall make... MASHED POTATOES |
| 22:37.12 | JayPee | which reminds me |
| 22:37.14 | file[laptop] | good idea |
| 22:37.17 | JayPee | I have a bunch of potatoes |
| 22:37.19 | JayPee | I should do that tonight |
| 22:37.22 | JayPee | which some chicken. |
| 22:37.24 | JayPee | yum. |
| 22:37.25 | file[laptop] | make home made fries |
| 22:37.34 | JayPee | They're red potatoes |
| 22:37.43 | file[laptop] | make home made red fries |
| 22:37.44 | purple_cow | you could still make fries |
| 22:37.45 | JayPee | so they probably wouldn't "fry" ver ywell |
| 22:37.55 | purple_cow | why not? |
| 22:38.00 | JayPee | I suppose so, but... I wanted to make them how red potatoes are traditionally made... |
| 22:38.08 | file[laptop] | be a rebel |
| 22:38.17 | file[laptop] | don't let your potatoes control you! |
| 22:38.24 | JayPee | in a light wine/oil/vinegar sauce |
| 22:38.30 | file[laptop] | purple_cow is an excellent cook, he could give you some tips |
| 22:38.40 | purple_cow | pff |
| 22:39.17 | purple_cow | traditional red potatoes are hard to beat |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9122 10python/symbian/pyhole.py: |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Lots more UI work. The whole interface is now double-buffered and we have some |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: status info, but I've reintroduced some concurrency problems due to the odd way |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Symbian handles UI callbacks. It has a download progress bar now, but this has |
| 22:49.20 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: revealed that nearly all our time is spent connecting to the HTTP server. |
| 22:49.45 | purple_cow | oooh |
| 22:50.04 | purple_cow | another entry to the great pumpkin day just came in, and it sounds neat |
| 22:50.08 | purple_cow | pumpkin halva |
| 22:53.17 | JayPee | I gotta plan my day |
| 22:53.31 | JayPee | otherwise, I'm liable to waste it all. |
| 22:53.36 | JayPee | (what's left of it, anyway) |
| 22:58.13 | file[laptop] | planning out days is overrated |
| 22:58.45 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (n=Cae@209.189.229.22) |
| 22:58.56 | Cae | who be awake? |
| 22:59.03 | file[laptop] | not I miss Cae |
| 22:59.15 | file[laptop] | ooh that rhymed |
| 23:03.06 | Cae | so..if there's an Adaptec 39320A Ultra320 SCSI adapter, and two Seagate SCSI 73gb 15k rpm drives attached..and the debian installer recognizes none of those from the start..what probably needs to happen? |
| 23:10.06 | orchid | Cae: ask in #debian-boot perhaps |
| 23:10.30 | darth_mall | Cae: try ubuntu? ;) |
| 23:12.05 | laodamas | Cae:a goat must be sacrificed in the name of Skeletor |
| 23:12.22 | Cae | hm. goat sounds good. |
| 23:19.04 | darth_mall | http://emooranges.ytmnd.com/ |
| 23:23.06 | purple_cow | hahahaha |
| 23:23.20 | Cae | humm..would the seagate drives normally need something modprobed? |
| 23:23.30 | purple_cow | good picture |
| 23:23.42 | purple_cow | Cae: no. scsi is scsi, unless it's an sgi machine |
| 23:24.07 | purple_cow | in which case it's scsi that might require special firmware for the system disk |
| 23:25.05 | Cae | dell precision 380..I'm betting it's the controller drivers giving problems..aic79xx should be the one to be loaded..what is sd_mod? |
| 23:25.42 | Cae | well, technically that one should load automatically too..in theory..hmm. |
| 23:25.47 | purple_cow | scsi disk support |
| 23:26.20 | Cae | well, genius was loading aic7xxx instead of aic79xx, which may be enough to not work. |
| 23:32.43 | kergoth | woo |
| 23:32.45 | kergoth | wow under cedega finally getting there.. running in 1680x1050, looks beautiful, framerates comperable to those in windows |
| 23:32.48 | kergoth | just need to tweak a couple things to fix the mouse issues, and the occasional graphical artifact |
| 23:32.59 | kergoth | nearly all of my issues were caused by 32 bit vs 64 bit crap |
| 23:36.05 | kergoth | shh! |
| 23:40.02 | kergoth | yay, mouse issues fixed |
| 23:40.48 | file | kergoth is teh king |
| 23:41.08 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03micah * r9123 10python/symbian/pyhole.py: Toss out urllib, and implement http proxying and keepalive directly via httplib. It still needs request pipelining, but this is already much faster |
| 23:59.05 | kergoth | okay, depending on what i'm doing, wow in cedega is either much faster or somewhat slower than windows |
