| 00:00.57 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (data/logo.png misc/art/logo.psd): mehh its better then the other logo |
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| 00:06.37 | purple_cow | heheheh |
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| 00:09.50 | ChipX86 | done, I think |
| 00:11.27 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/src/menuBackground.cpp: better mini tank movement |
| 00:12.46 | darth_mall | we haven't played BZFlag in a while |
| 00:12.53 | ChipX86 | we should |
| 00:12.57 | ChipX86 | and Jamie wants to play with us |
| 00:13.03 | darth_mall | oh noes |
| 00:13.52 | purple_cow | if only i had a compute that could play it... |
| 00:14.02 | ChipX86 | darn broken computes |
| 00:15.52 | scanlime | purple_cow: what happened to your lappy? |
| 00:16.00 | darth_mall | someone sat in it |
| 00:16.03 | scanlime | =( |
| 00:16.15 | darth_mall | hard to play bzflag with someone in your lap |
| 00:16.22 | purple_cow | scanlime: it works, it's just the video acceleration sucks |
| 00:16.36 | scanlime | purple_cow: oh. bzflag shouldn't care :) |
| 00:17.00 | purple_cow | scanlime: not with all the recent stuff :P |
| 00:17.05 | scanlime | aw |
| 00:17.06 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (client/VC71/client.vcproj raknet/VC71/raknet.vcproj): release mode settings |
| 00:17.11 | darth_mall | we could play a 5 year old version |
| 00:17.14 | scanlime | doesn't it still have a my-computer-sucks mode? |
| 00:17.22 | purple_cow | maybe |
| 00:17.32 | purple_cow | might be sufficient for decks, but nobody plays decks anymore |
| 00:17.42 | scanlime | it must, 90% of bzflag's users are 15 year olds playing on 486es |
| 00:18.20 | ChipX86 | 15 year olds know what 486s are? |
| 00:18.25 | ChipX86 | isn't that like ancient for them |
| 00:18.29 | scanlime | it's all they can afford |
| 00:18.39 | scanlime | well, those and VTech Helios |
| 00:18.50 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:18.50 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 00:18.55 | darth_mall | Helio clusters! |
| 00:19.12 | purple_cow | i haven't seen someone obsessed over a helio for a couple years |
| 00:19.42 | darth_mall | we should find a way to brainwash scanlime into loving them |
| 00:19.46 | darth_mall | that would be pretty funny |
| 00:20.06 | darth_mall | "Look! I can make toast with my helio!" |
| 00:20.08 | purple_cow | and forth! |
| 00:20.20 | darth_mall | hmm... |
| 00:20.44 | darth_mall | someone should make a toothbrush CF thing for Zauruses |
| 00:20.49 | darth_mall | it'd sell so well |
| 00:20.53 | numist | great.. why did I boot ubuntu? |
| 00:21.00 | darth_mall | self loathing? |
| 00:21.04 | ChipX86 | numist: to see if the ISO works? |
| 00:21.09 | numist | no, it works |
| 00:21.11 | numist | I did that already |
| 00:21.25 | numist | oh right, to checkout code from numi-misc and navi-misc |
| 00:21.33 | numist | ah hah |
| 00:22.36 | purple_cow | self loathing is a good reason too |
| 00:22.59 | scanlime | what? this time it wants me to restart my computer to install a bluetooth mouse |
| 00:23.02 | pagefault | mmm |
| 00:23.04 | pagefault | curry |
| 00:23.08 | numist | scanlime: thats not right.. |
| 00:23.31 | purple_cow | it'll be nice when they invent a way to make changes to the registry without rebooting |
| 00:23.59 | scanlime | numist: windows is just getting confused since the bluetooth adaptor dies right when it's trying to connect |
| 00:24.04 | ChipX86 | Jamie brought her windows laptop to Boston and was constantly grumbling about it |
| 00:24.14 | ChipX86 | "Why isn't this working? It just works in Linux, but I can't get it working here." |
| 00:24.31 | ChipX86 | "I plug in the camera and nothing happens! In Linux it imports my photos, but it just won't do anything here." |
| 00:24.53 | numist | ouch |
| 00:24.56 | ChipX86 | it was interesting to me. She's finding Linux to be far easier to use |
| 00:25.10 | numist | it can be... depends on what your running into |
| 00:25.13 | ChipX86 | nod |
| 00:25.27 | ChipX86 | for the things she does, though, which aren't like weird things or whatever, Windows (or at least her install of it) was just a pain |
| 00:25.38 | scanlime | USB never works right in windows :P |
| 00:25.40 | ChipX86 | she wanted to take pics on her camera, plug it in, and upload the pictures to a nework drive |
| 00:25.49 | ChipX86 | oh and view some photos and manipulate them |
| 00:26.01 | ChipX86 | eventually she got frustrated and just did it on my laptop |
| 00:26.24 | ChipX86 | oh, and if you're on unstable wireless networks in Windows, it's a real pain |
| 00:26.49 | numist | yes it is.. windows lacks a fully featured wireless control center |
| 00:26.55 | numist | macs really have it done right in that area |
| 00:27.11 | ChipX86 | a little notification bubble (which *requires* you to hit the close button) will pop up saying it can't find any networks. Once you close it, it pops up saying it found one. So she uses it for a couple of minutes and then another one pops up saying it can't find any |
| 00:27.18 | ChipX86 | over and over and over, each time requiring that she manually close it |
| 00:27.44 | numist | yep |
| 00:27.49 | ChipX86 | we were sitting right next to J5, who was implementing libnotify support in NetworkManager, and we looked at him and said he'd better not make it do that |
| 00:27.51 | darth_mall | wireless in windows sucks |
| 00:28.01 | numist | when Im on the road I actually explicitly shut off the card to save battery anyway |
| 00:28.29 | purple_cow | J5 strikes me as a total dude |
| 00:28.31 | ChipX86 | J5 said he wants to add support so if that situation keeps happening, it just pops up a thing saying you're in a bad area for networking and to manually try again in a different spot, and then stop popping up any notifications |
| 00:28.45 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: is that a good thing? |
| 00:28.54 | purple_cow | it seems like he's always working on something awesome |
| 00:28.57 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 00:29.03 | ChipX86 | J5 rocks. It was great meeting him |
| 00:29.16 | ChipX86 | such a nice friendly, competent guy |
| 00:30.12 | numist | navi's svn has gotten a lot faster lately.. |
| 00:30.37 | darth_mall | yeah |
| 00:30.41 | darth_mall | el nino is like that |
| 00:31.20 | lurgy | foo |
| 00:31.22 | lurgy | bar |
| 00:31.25 | numist | baz |
| 00:31.27 | numist | quux |
| 00:32.55 | lurgy | nope |
| 00:32.56 | purple_cow | or el nino |
| 00:33.00 | lurgy | that would make no sense at all |
| 00:33.07 | lurgy | obviously it's a climatic phenomenon |
| 00:33.11 | lurgy | :P |
| 00:33.20 | numist | :) |
| 00:36.49 | numist | scanlime: what did you use to make the schematics in navi-misc, like the led wand dispaly hackage? |
| 00:36.57 | scanlime | most of that is gschem |
| 00:37.04 | numist | hrm |
| 00:37.05 | scanlime | anything I did PCBs for is in protel |
| 00:37.11 | scanlime | .sch is gschem, .SchDoc is protel |
| 00:37.21 | scanlime | I should have PDFs for pretty much everything too |
| 00:37.23 | numist | noted |
| 00:39.31 | pagefault | yay I converted an mp3 to the SNES BRR format |
| 00:39.34 | pagefault | it sounds pretty good |
| 00:39.53 | purple_cow | ``Scienctists working on high-tech dishes that don't need to be washed and can be thrown away after a meal. If you can imagine such a thing'' |
| 00:40.40 | ChipX86 | wow! |
| 00:40.47 | ChipX86 | amazing. |
| 00:40.48 | alm262 | *shock* |
| 00:40.50 | ChipX86 | what will they think of next |
| 00:40.58 | ChipX86 | I wonder if that technology could be applied to towels |
| 00:41.07 | pagefault | wow |
| 00:41.09 | scanlime | or toothpicks |
| 00:41.10 | numist | it already has, but the government is hiding it from you |
| 00:41.14 | pagefault | I think I saw that in the dollar store the other day |
| 00:41.14 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:41.20 | pagefault | it's amazing how fast they can ship these new products out |
| 00:41.25 | purple_cow | hah, the article is actually kind of neat |
| 00:41.46 | purple_cow | they have a machine that forms dishes out of sheets of acrylic, then reheats & presses them back into sheets when you're done with them |
| 00:42.13 | pagefault | I need to find some good classical music |
| 00:42.13 | pagefault | hmm |
| 00:42.32 | purple_cow | time to fill my tummy with pie |
| 00:42.44 | lurgy | mmmmm |
| 00:42.45 | lurgy | pie |
| 00:44.13 | ChipX86 | time to send in the self-eval |
| 00:44.18 | ChipX86 | now I just need to do two peer reviews |
| 00:45.20 | pagefault | there is always room for pie |
| 00:45.25 | pagefault | pie is awesome |
| 00:45.34 | darth_mall | pai |
| 00:49.33 | ChipX86 | I apologized earlier for missing my one-on-one meeting with my manager yesterday |
| 00:50.08 | ChipX86 | she said I have no need to, as the meeting is a two-way thing, and it shouldn't focus just on her schedule, but on mine too |
| 00:50.20 | numist | she rocks |
| 00:50.29 | numist | you probably werent even doing anything :P |
| 00:50.39 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 00:50.45 | ChipX86 | doing anything? |
| 00:51.30 | numist | I'm just joshing you |
| 00:51.56 | purple_cow | mmm |
| 00:52.09 | purple_cow | there's just something...er...corporeal about apple pie a la mode |
| 00:52.16 | scanlime | =D |
| 00:52.20 | scanlime | I wanna go :( |
| 00:52.26 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 00:52.26 | purple_cow | the dichotomy of flavors, textures, and ... temperatures |
| 00:52.29 | darth_mall | well, maybe if you fly really fast... |
| 00:52.35 | scanlime | ok |
| 00:53.35 | ChipX86 | sent. Yay, I think. |
| 00:56.29 | scanlime | yay.. L2CAP over ACL over HCI over USB |
| 00:56.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (4 files in 3 dirs): add black and white to the mini tank colors |
| 00:56.57 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 00:57.22 | purple_cow | is that anything like TCP over IP over PPP over TCP over IP over PPP over ATM? |
| 00:57.36 | scanlime | kinda |
| 00:57.49 | scanlime | I'm not sure why bluetooth needs so many different encapsulation formats |
| 00:59.31 | purple_cow | hmm |
| 00:59.38 | purple_cow | apparently i need love pi11s |
| 01:01.34 | darth_mall | purple_cow: you do |
| 01:01.42 | darth_mall | so does lurgy |
| 01:01.53 | darth_mall | then you could throw them at each other |
| 01:01.59 | lurgy | hehe |
| 01:02.00 | lurgy | hmm |
| 01:02.04 | purple_cow | i think lurgy gets enough love on his own |
| 01:02.08 | purple_cow | :P |
| 01:02.08 | lurgy | heh |
| 01:02.10 | lurgy | um |
| 01:02.15 | lurgy | riiiiiiiight |
| 01:02.19 | darth_mall | purple_cow: pills aren't for lovin', pills are for throwin' |
| 01:02.23 | purple_cow | darth_mall: ah |
| 01:04.47 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 01:04.48 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/src/menuBackground.cpp: spin the view to see the mini tanks even better |
| 01:05.04 | ChipX86 | er, Hans's |
| 01:05.50 | ChipX86 | VMIAGRA: (Virtual Infrastructure) tablets, High availability for you and your server |
| 01:06.13 | scanlime | hah |
| 01:07.01 | ChipX86 | I also like the latest Homestar Runner post from Daniel Arai |
| 01:08.14 | scanlime | arrgh |
| 01:08.18 | scanlime | this thing is pissing me off |
| 01:08.22 | darth_mall | =\ |
| 01:08.47 | scanlime | according to our fancy USB analyzer at least, under *normal operation* this bluetooth dongle resets itself and drops off the USB bus repeatedly |
| 01:09.05 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 01:09.18 | scanlime | bah |
| 01:09.27 | scanlime | at least I wrote some bluetooth debugging tools today... |
| 01:09.37 | darth_mall | ooh |
| 01:10.06 | scanlime | time to leave |
| 01:10.15 | darth_mall | run away! |
| 01:17.32 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r244 10prototype/ (data/menus/main-menu.menu src/menu/Item.java): add some crazy "action" stuff, for exciting explosions and daring escapes |
| 01:17.43 | darth_mall | haha |
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| 01:22.26 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r245 10prototype/data/menus/main-menu.menu: more action! |
| 01:45.28 | darth_mall | bad Sophie197 |
| 01:46.40 | darth_mall | ok, I take it back |
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| 02:13.39 | ChipX86 | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/kittycannon.html |
| 02:17.41 | ChipX86 | 630ft |
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| 03:03.15 | scanlime | ahh.. that was so satisfying |
| 03:03.20 | scanlime | ChipX86: we fixed it =D |
| 03:03.32 | ChipX86 | fixed what? |
| 03:03.35 | scanlime | and after that hack session I have a great hunger... |
| 03:03.43 | scanlime | ChipX86: bluetooth |
| 03:03.47 | ChipX86 | woot! :) |
| 03:04.10 | ChipX86 | awesome |
| 03:04.35 | scanlime | also, don't buy SMC bluetooth hardware |
| 03:04.54 | scanlime | we found two problems actually.. one was a bug in the UHCI core that was effecting all bluetooth dongles |
| 03:05.09 | scanlime | but the other was specific to the SMC dongle- it likes to continuously reset itself |
| 03:05.17 | scanlime | the windows driver tends to cover that up so you don't notice |
| 03:05.22 | scanlime | but it's really really ugly |
| 03:05.27 | scanlime | and of course that would never work in a VM |
| 03:06.02 | scanlime | hopefully the cheap TRENDnet adaptor I ordered with my phone doesn't have that problem |
| 03:06.33 | scanlime | but yeah.. both of these really annoying bugs should be fixed in ws5.5 =D |
| 03:06.40 | ChipX86 | that's so cool |
| 03:08.11 | laodamas | purple_cow: When your birthday hooliganism? Tomorrow or Friday? |
| 03:12.42 | ChipX86 | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051012/film_nm/porn_dc |
| 03:14.20 | ChipX86 | yay for #vmware.. |
| 03:15.07 | ChipX86 | 20:02:20 < xfoxx> how do i call the program??? 20:10:27 < xfoxx> i am getting multiple errors can anyone asssits?? |
| 03:29.22 | ChipX86 | Hawkeye is the new president on The West Wing |
| 03:30.14 | ChipX86 | oh wait, no, he just won the nomination |
| 03:35.25 | ChipX86 | this guy in #vmware is trying hard to convince us that he typed rm -r / |
| 03:44.37 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:46.26 | ChipX86 | ugh.. peer review for a person I hardly work with directly, and another for a person who I don't feel is very good for the team |
| 03:46.36 | kergoth | heh |
| 03:48.18 | scanlime | ChipX86: d'oh. I only got one peer review this year :) |
| 03:48.29 | ChipX86 | was it me? |
| 03:48.29 | Sophie197 | *revelation* |
| 03:48.33 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: tada! |
| 03:48.46 | scanlime | ChipX86: chris |
| 03:48.46 | Sophie197 | I just looked at that picture and I realized that *duh* |
| 03:48.51 | Sophie197 | it's two bugs |
| 03:48.58 | Sophie197 | they're making bug love |
| 03:49.09 | scanlime | ChipX86: chris and perry are really the only people I've been working with directly |
| 03:49.19 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: bug porn |
| 03:49.26 | ChipX86 | film it and sell it |
| 03:49.32 | Sophie197 | I guess the male is the skinny tpo one |
| 03:49.34 | Sophie197 | top* |
| 03:49.44 | Sophie197 | and the female is the big bottom one |
| 03:51.20 | scanlime | ChipX86: vmware keeps the USB people all locked up in a little box |
| 03:51.21 | scanlime | :P |
| 03:51.26 | ChipX86 | heh :) |
| 03:51.48 | scanlime | it's mostly so nobody reviews our code |
| 03:52.22 | ChipX86 | <ChipX86> xfoxx, I don't believe you have the experience necessary to debate windows vs linux at this time |
| 03:52.29 | scanlime | and so we can complain about how slow the monitor is while the monitor people complain how we're abusing their memory mappings, and nobody's the wiser |
| 03:52.32 | ChipX86 | I'm so close to saying "SHUT THE HELL UP" |
| 03:53.15 | ChipX86 | want to hop into #vmware? |
| 03:53.18 | scanlime | heh |
| 03:53.20 | scanlime | not really |
| 03:53.22 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:53.26 | ChipX86 | can't blame you |
| 03:54.51 | ChipX86 | everything this guy says just makes me want to thwap him |
| 03:55.00 | kergoth | do it! thwap him |
| 03:55.22 | scanlime | /ctcp thwap |
| 03:55.49 | scanlime | "Why don't you make like a tree, and get the fuck out of here" |
| 03:56.01 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 03:56.13 | kergoth | didnt biff in the back to the future movies say something like that? |
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| 03:56.18 | scanlime | it was similar |
| 03:56.18 | kergoth | and the old biff corrects him |
| 03:56.25 | zak | has anyone seen kendar? |
| 03:56.26 | scanlime | hiya zak! |
| 03:56.31 | zak | her parents are worried about her |
| 03:56.41 | scanlime | oo.. :( |
| 03:56.46 | nullpuppy | ooooh, is scanlime watching boondock saints? :) |
| 03:56.49 | zak | hiya scanlime |
| 03:56.55 | scanlime | nullpuppy: yes.. and it reminded me of BTTF :) |
| 03:57.01 | nullpuppy | :) |
| 03:57.01 | zak | g'night all |
| 03:57.03 | scanlime | =( |
| 03:57.05 | *** part/#tacobeam zak (n=Jen@c-24-9-67-19.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:57.11 | scanlime | bye zak... |
| 04:02.00 | ChipX86 | gah, sshgate is broken again |
| 04:02.10 | ChipX86 | crap |
| 04:02.12 | scanlime | corkscrew... |
| 04:02.20 | ChipX86 | er, sorry, ssh3/4 |
| 04:02.28 | scanlime | pff |
| 04:02.48 | ChipX86 | oh there we go. Yay! |
| 04:02.55 | ChipX86 | very very slow though |
| 04:03.01 | ChipX86 | the whole network is screwed up today |
| 04:03.15 | ChipX86 | oh, or it could be the bittorrents maxing out my connection |
| 04:08.00 | ChipX86 | I was going to try WoW tonight |
| 04:08.13 | ChipX86 | but then a certain katamari-like game came in the mail |
| 04:08.35 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:08.49 | kergoth | i'm playing my mage.. the guild disenchanter/bank |
| 04:09.04 | ChipX86 | what level? |
| 04:09.10 | kergoth | 5 :) |
| 04:09.13 | ChipX86 | hah |
| 04:09.18 | kergoth | got him to 5 long ago to train in enchanting |
| 04:09.25 | kergoth | he's level 5 with an enchanting skill of 57 |
| 04:09.30 | kergoth | from disenchanting stuff beyo sends him |
| 04:09.31 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:09.41 | ChipX86 | haha |
| 04:09.53 | kergoth | and he has 18 gold :) |
| 04:10.17 | kergoth | from selling those de'd shards and things |
| 04:11.30 | ChipX86 | I don't get this dialog... |
| 04:11.53 | ChipX86 | "Blah blah automatic every x minutes save blah blah, do you want to save?" [Yes] [No] [Cancel] |
| 04:11.58 | ChipX86 | what's the difference between No and Cancel? |
| 04:12.02 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:19.26 | nullpuppy | one is 2 letters, the other is 6? |
| 04:19.42 | ChipX86 | :P |
| 04:19.57 | ChipX86 | I should try OOo2 |
| 04:20.04 | nullpuppy | yes, you should :) |
| 04:20.07 | nullpuppy | its very nice :) |
| 04:20.10 | ChipX86 | is it stable? |
| 04:20.16 | nullpuppy | yeah, very |
| 04:20.30 | ChipX86 | does it actually look like a gtk app now, spacing and fonts and all? |
| 04:20.42 | nullpuppy | umm... i think so |
| 04:21.24 | ChipX86 | OOo1 on Ubuntu and some other distros mostly looks like a native gtk app, but there are some things, like the font sizes and spacing and buttons and stuff that are just off |
| 04:38.43 | lurgy | ChipX86: now it purportedly actually uses gtk+ widgets, rather than just trying to imitate the theme |
| 04:39.02 | ChipX86 | cool |
| 04:39.11 | lurgy | i thought so |
| 04:39.22 | lurgy | but i've yet to actually try it |
| 04:39.28 | lurgy | so i guess i'll have to wait and see |
| 04:44.45 | scanlime | wow |
| 04:44.50 | scanlime | my old phone is being pretty well-behaved |
| 04:45.00 | scanlime | 30 minutes on the phone with my mom and nothing worse than some light static |
| 04:53.08 | file[laptop] | it senses you bought a new phone and is trying to regain your trust |
| 04:53.36 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 04:53.38 | ChipX86 | computers do that too |
| 04:54.22 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 04:54.38 | ChipX86 | I want to simulate bluetooth connections across VMs in a team |
| 04:54.40 | scanlime | it's great when these big hairy awful bugs turn out to be 3-line fixes |
| 04:54.43 | scanlime | hehe |
| 04:54.45 | scanlime | no! |
| 04:54.47 | ChipX86 | for testing |
| 04:54.48 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 04:55.04 | scanlime | I had a hard enough time writing a decoder for the very lowest couple layers of the bluetooth protocol stack |
| 04:55.13 | scanlime | bluetooth is just insanely overcomplicated |
| 04:57.45 | scanlime | it's fun though... |
| 04:57.52 | scanlime | we had a bluetooth keyboard hooked up to a VM |
| 04:58.40 | scanlime | also had a mouse hooked up- it didn't work with vmware tools' mouse driver loaded, but I could see the cute little mouse packets quadruple-encapsulated in my analyzer :) |
| 04:59.05 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 04:59.13 | scanlime | it's something like HID over L2CAP over ACL over HCI over USB... |
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| 04:59.28 | scanlime | there might be another layer between L2CAP and HID, I didn't read that far in the spec :) |
| 05:00.02 | scanlime | my debug tools know USB, and most of HCI... but only tiny bits of ACL and L2CAP |
| 05:03.25 | file[laptop] | I should sleep I suppose |
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| 05:50.31 | ChipX86 | someone squatted galago.info |
| 05:50.58 | nullpuppy | :( |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r299 10taco/ (5 files in 5 dirs): |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Consolidate Selection.showControls and hideControls into Selection.setControlsVisible. Also override setVisible to also call setControlsVisible. |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Be more specific in what we show and hide in setControlsVisible. Resize handles are only shown if the target is resizable. |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Rename CursorCache to Cursor. |
| 06:08.58 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Added a trash selection control. |
| 06:09.00 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Added minimum and maximum constraints for canvas objects. |
| 06:09.02 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - The intersection block for walls can now appear on any part of the wall. |
| 06:10.47 | ChipX86 | yay for a week's worth of work |
| 06:21.35 | purple_cow | wow that was awesome |
| 06:21.47 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 06:22.44 | purple_cow | devotchka/dresden dolls concert |
| 06:24.36 | kergoth | nice |
| 06:25.20 | purple_cow | first act ("faun fables") was good, devotchka was great, and the dresden dolls rocked the hell outta the place |
| 06:25.29 | purple_cow | but i still hate teenagers |
| 06:25.47 | alm262 | ever since my introduction to Indian food in NC, I've discovered that it's pretty much nonexistant in my area. :( |
| 06:26.26 | ChipX86 | it's very much existant in this area :) |
| 06:26.29 | ChipX86 | mmmm indian food |
| 06:27.41 | alm262 | there's no indian food in my local area, but if I don't mind driving 20 minutes, I can get some |
| 06:27.44 | alm262 | *sighs* |
| 06:28.36 | alm262 | and that one isn't all that great |
| 06:28.43 | alm262 | poor selection |
| 06:30.55 | scanlime | alm262: you need tastybite |
| 06:31.37 | purple_cow | tastybite is good, but it's no substitute for a real southern indian restaurant ;) |
| 06:32.58 | alm262 | hrm, buying food online? |
| 06:33.44 | scanlime | alm262: it's a little different from buying butter, milk, and chicken feed at the local general store.. but the basic idea is the same |
| 06:37.07 | purple_cow | it's a little weird to buy -meat- over the internet (i think tastybite's phased those out anyway), but really no weirder than buying packaged chili |
| 06:38.05 | ChipX86 | not sure I'd buy meat online if it wasn't delivered from a local store same-day |
| 06:38.08 | alm262 | hehe, I guess so, but I never thought of it |
| 06:39.37 | ChipX86 | I need to suck less at game development |
| 06:40.26 | purple_cow | ChipX86: in this case it's meat that's been vacuum-packaged when hot |
| 06:40.34 | ChipX86 | ah, ok |
| 06:40.54 | alm262 | :/ |
| 06:43.39 | purple_cow | alm262: would you buy canned chili at the grocery store? :P |
| 06:44.06 | alm262 | yea, but that's precooked and filled with preservatives |
| 06:44.17 | purple_cow | no preservatives in most brands |
| 06:44.44 | scanlime | canning is canning.. veggies and coffee grow mold pretty well too, there's nothing magical about meat |
| 06:45.09 | purple_cow | coffee grows mold? |
| 06:45.17 | scanlime | yes |
| 06:46.49 | purple_cow | you people and your silly humidity |
| 06:46.59 | scanlime | it happened in colorado too |
| 06:47.15 | scanlime | never forgot to clean out your coffee filter for a few weeks? :) |
| 06:47.20 | purple_cow | no :P |
| 06:47.36 | ChipX86 | TIM's collision detection is.. odd |
| 06:47.39 | scanlime | "time makes fools of us all..." |
| 06:47.40 | alm262 | scanlime: sounds like you don't make coffee very often if you've done that |
| 06:47.52 | ChipX86 | how do I want to do this.. hrm |
| 06:47.55 | scanlime | alm262: I don't make coffee at home very often, I drink so much of it at work |
| 07:18.50 | purple_cow | hehe, anti-robbery broadsword |
| 07:34.21 | purple_cow | darth_mall: amsterdam was written by jacques brel |
| 07:34.49 | purple_cow | scanlime: that was something you'd have enjoyed |
| 07:34.55 | purple_cow | the dresden dolls sung amsterdam :) |
| 07:36.29 | scanlime | =D |
| 07:36.35 | scanlime | oh.. I should order some tickets... |
| 07:36.42 | scanlime | I've got Epoxies to go see in a couple weeks |
| 07:36.46 | scanlime | and TMBG a week after that |
| 07:39.50 | purple_cow | cool |
| 07:40.31 | scanlime | I also need to see whether it's possible to come back to colorado for thanksgiving.. my grandmother is going to be in town, so I'll have family-stuff to do. Thanksgiving airline prices are going to be a total bitch though, so I'm not sure what I'll end up doing |
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| 07:45.54 | ChipX86 | yay We <3 Katamari's opening being all weird |
| 07:50.04 | ChipX86 | he king is gloating about how great his first game was :) |
| 07:53.23 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 07:58.03 | ChipX86 | the selection world thing has been replaced with the Select Globe |
| 07:58.05 | ChipX86 | er |
| 07:58.07 | ChipX86 | Seleclt Field |
| 07:58.11 | ChipX86 | your fans come to visit you |
| 07:58.20 | ChipX86 | you can walk around, or dance and sing while you walk, or other things :) |
| 09:23.16 | purple_cow | ah, student buff bulletins |
| 09:23.20 | purple_cow | where would i be without them? |
| 09:23.45 | purple_cow | oh, that's right |
| 09:23.48 | purple_cow | exactly where i am now |
| 10:49.43 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r246 10prototype/smrt: some java command line flags that supposedly increase speed |
| 10:49.52 | purple_cow | MORE FASTERLY |
| 11:18.08 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r247 10prototype/src/ (5 files in 3 dirs): lots more infrastructure for menu doodads. god how i hate .equals(). it makes me want to flip out and kill things |
| 11:31.09 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r248 10prototype/ (4 files in 3 dirs): some (mostly hackish) code to allow pushing & popping menus |
| 11:36.39 | *** topic/#tacobeam by purple_cow -> If it's a lesson in love, watch out! I suffer from a very sexy learning disability. |
| 11:46.10 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r249 10prototype/src/ (4 files in 3 dirs): go on another commenting run |
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| 13:44.27 | pagefaul1 | weee |
| 13:44.36 | pagefaul1 | whats up all |
| 14:14.44 | pagefaul1 | coffeeeee |
| 14:15.00 | file[laptop] | taco. |
| 14:15.12 | pagefaul1 | I am tweeked |
| 14:15.18 | pagefaul1 | hehe |
| 14:15.59 | pagefaul1 | so file do you have collge or what |
| 14:16.01 | pagefaul1 | or are you just working right now |
| 14:16.26 | file[laptop] | working right now |
| 14:16.36 | pagefaul1 | money is good |
| 14:17.16 | pagefaul1 | ok people need to stop making out in the lab |
| 14:17.17 | pagefaul1 | at 10 AM |
| 14:19.24 | pagefaul1 | I cannot code this early in the morning |
| 14:19.28 | pagefaul1 | I type but nothing useful comes out |
| 14:20.32 | *** join/#tacobeam Cae (i=cae@celeron.isc.tamu.edu) |
| 14:20.57 | pagefaul1 | oh well time to get a reload of caffeine |
| 14:26.02 | pagefaul1 | ok smart people |
| 14:26.08 | pagefaul1 | how do I connect to multiple servers in irssi |
| 14:28.03 | pagefaul1 | hmm |
| 14:28.07 | pagefaul1 | what happened to cvshome.org |
| 15:02.09 | Cae | http://www.megatokyo.com/index.php?strip_id=772 um..can anyone understand the last frame? |
| 15:02.15 | Cae | w1632146s = ? |
| 15:03.35 | Cae | or is that w/632146s.. |
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| 16:33.49 | ChipX86 | yay, SNES |
| 16:34.55 | Cae | websvn is one of the least useful tools I've seen in a while. |
| 16:35.44 | ChipX86 | woah |
| 16:35.49 | ChipX86 | Breezy's been released?! |
| 16:36.17 | ChipX86 | jdub told me it'd be soon, but I didn't get the impression it'd be the same week |
| 16:40.45 | Cae | Chip...I have an svn repository on a server (apparently)..how do I play with it? |
| 16:41.54 | ChipX86 | how's the server set up? Do you know the URI? |
| 16:43.10 | Cae | http://vpr-webserver.tamu.edu/svn/mschneider/, which, btw, I cannot actually FIND on the webserver's path...and websvn at the same root, WebSVN/ |
| 16:44.16 | Cae | and I have no other information |
| 16:44.22 | Cae | which really pisses me off |
| 16:44.37 | ChipX86 | hrm |
| 16:44.42 | ChipX86 | ok |
| 16:44.54 | ChipX86 | svn co http://vpr-webserver.tamu.edu/svn/mschneider whatever-you-want-to-call-this-repository-locally |
| 16:45.08 | Cae | the first link is how it's supposed to be messed with..yeah.. |
| 16:45.18 | ChipX86 | and then things just work like cvs |
| 16:45.25 | ChipX86 | svn ci, svn revert, svn diff, etc |
| 16:45.51 | Cae | oh wait, how do I declare different username? |
| 16:45.57 | ChipX86 | ? |
| 16:47.31 | Cae | --username, mkay |
| 16:48.36 | ChipX86 | it should just ask |
| 16:48.48 | Cae | nah, defaults to whatever you're logged in as |
| 16:49.04 | ChipX86 | ah ok |
| 16:53.51 | scanlime | it will ask you for a username if the password fails once |
| 16:54.06 | scanlime | once you log in successfully it saves that authentication by default |
| 17:02.28 | scanlime | screw being early.. I'm biking to work today |
| 17:02.44 | scanlime | the last 2 days I worked at least 9.5 hours or so |
| 17:02.50 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 17:03.22 | scanlime | I didn't even notice... was making so much progress on those USB bugs that I lost track of time |
| 17:03.38 | scanlime | and last night I got frustrated at about 6:00 and started to leave, but I happened to mention my problem to Chris on the way out |
| 17:03.45 | scanlime | so the two of us had a hack session and fixed it |
| 17:08.42 | ChipX86 | http://pat.suwalski.net/misc/temp-boston2005.txt |
| 17:14.36 | scanlime | oh my god.. I just found a new pocket |
| 17:14.49 | scanlime | I've had this backpack for 4 years |
| 17:15.05 | Cae | LOL |
| 17:18.02 | scanlime | ok, I'd better go get myself run over now |
| 17:18.09 | scanlime | see you later from work if I'm lucky |
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| 17:33.49 | Cae | hey lurgy |
| 17:45.38 | lurgy | hi Cae |
| 17:45.50 | Cae | my stomach is trying to eat itself again. |
| 18:22.50 | numist | cant wait for lunch |
| 18:23.08 | numist | so I'm almost done with the process of getting back to school.. At this point its a "sure thing" |
| 18:26.49 | lurgy | yay |
| 18:26.51 | lurgy | school |
| 18:35.24 | Cae | numist: nifty |
| 18:37.06 | numist | :) |
| 19:00.08 | Cae | class, see you guys later |
| 19:09.30 | ChipX86 | hmm |
| 19:09.34 | ChipX86 | maybe I'll work half the night |
| 19:16.34 | scanlime | wahaa! |
| 19:16.39 | scanlime | bluetooth working in an ubuntu VM! |
| 19:17.40 | numist | scanlime: how long until I can buy a WUSB hub? maybe I should make the mouse and kb in the car into wusb devices >D |
| 19:20.16 | scanlime | numist: uh.. if you supply a fairly large R&D budget you can probably buy a prototype nowish :) |
| 19:20.23 | numist | :( |
| 19:20.32 | numist | I have $12, is that enough? |
| 19:20.39 | scanlime | numist: WUSB includes 'wire adaptors' that are basically hubs that turn wired USB devices into WUSB devices |
| 19:20.48 | scanlime | so you'll be able to plug your thingies into that |
| 19:20.51 | numist | oh thatll work |
| 19:20.56 | numist | thatll work great |
| 19:21.00 | numist | buahahaa |
| 19:21.16 | scanlime | currently implementing a WUSB device means about 3 circuit boards the size of index cards, with a couple FPGAs and DSPs |
| 19:21.17 | numist | Ill need a bigger altoids tin.. itll need power to run the mouse, TUSB controller, and the wusb adaptor.. |
| 19:21.27 | numist | yikes |
| 19:21.27 | ChipX86 | some people on slashdot are saying that now that google hired sean, gaim development will stpo |
| 19:21.29 | scanlime | you could use bluetooth |
| 19:21.34 | scanlime | >:) |
| 19:21.35 | ChipX86 | some people are saying that it will now be guaranteed to stay around longer |
| 19:21.38 | ChipX86 | they're both wrong |
| 19:21.39 | numist | scanlime: :( |
| 19:21.48 | ChipX86 | he'll work on it just as much as he used to -- not at all |
| 19:21.59 | numist | scanlime: actually, I was thinking that with wusb, it would make it easier to move the model M to wusb than to bluetooth |
| 19:22.07 | scanlime | no |
| 19:22.16 | scanlime | power will be your biggest problem either way |
| 19:22.31 | scanlime | hmm.. I should look for some small micros with built-in bluetooth.. I wonder if they exist |
| 19:22.36 | numist | programmatically and implementation wise it would be easiest with wusb I meant |
| 19:22.42 | numist | micros? |
| 19:22.45 | scanlime | I know gumstix has some disgustingly cute little ARM boards with bluetooth for $130 or so |
| 19:22.50 | scanlime | microcontrollers |
| 19:22.52 | numist | what subclass of Widget is that |
| 19:22.53 | numist | ah |
| 19:22.59 | numist | its an abbrev, clever |
| 19:23.18 | numist | power will be your enemy either way, yes |
| 19:23.22 | scanlime | y. abbrev's mk talk'ng mor eff. |
| 19:24.49 | numist | anyway |
| 19:24.52 | ChipX86 | scanlime: Operation Trainwreck, full speed ahead :( |
| 19:25.00 | numist | ChipX86: ? |
| 19:25.04 | ChipX86 | numist: can't say |
| 19:25.11 | numist | :( |
| 19:25.15 | numist | even though I agreed to an NDA? |
| 19:25.33 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 19:25.39 | numist | wow, it must be super special |
| 19:33.13 | numist | fyre isnt in ubuntu repositories :o |
| 19:38.20 | numist | wow zero is fast |
| 19:46.40 | numist | hmm |
| 19:46.49 | numist | does fyre write to disk on every iteration or something? |
| 19:46.58 | scanlime | no |
| 19:47.04 | scanlime | but it might seem like it if you're swapping |
| 19:47.08 | scanlime | it does require a lot of RAM |
| 19:47.11 | numist | no, no swat yet |
| 19:47.22 | scanlime | no disk I/O other than loading/saving |
| 19:47.29 | numist | alrighty |
| 19:48.00 | scanlime | the memory is roughly 64 bits per pixel, plus a megabyte or so of other caches and buffers |
| 19:48.08 | numist | woof |
| 19:48.13 | numist | per pixel? ;) |
| 19:48.20 | scanlime | 32-bit color buffer, 32-bit histogram buffer |
| 19:48.24 | numist | ah hist |
| 19:48.53 | scanlime | most of the other memory is in the color buffer, which is variable-size and depends mostly on the actual color, exposure, and gamma settings you're using |
| 19:49.07 | numist | not being a graphics person, how is gamma applied to an imave? |
| 19:49.09 | numist | image* |
| 19:49.32 | scanlime | in this case via a big lookup table that also encodes a lot of other things :P |
| 19:49.48 | numist | hrm |
| 19:50.03 | scanlime | but none of those tables are generated every iteration |
| 19:50.17 | scanlime | blurring tables happen every 1k iterations or so, color tables are usually once per displayed frame |
| 19:50.25 | numist | sure, but I was thinking of writing a dirty C program that just iterates till its done and doesnt show the user what's going on |
| 19:50.40 | scanlime | fyre has a command line mode already that does that |
| 19:50.45 | numist | and then does image color and stuff off the results |
| 19:50.46 | numist | ah so |
| 19:50.58 | numist | I should do it in terminal then |
| 19:51.14 | scanlime | plus there's an "interactivity settings" dialog that lets you adjust its scheduler to update the GUI less often |
| 19:51.38 | scanlime | but... |
| 19:51.45 | scanlime | I doubt you'll see it run much faster on the command line |
| 19:51.51 | numist | really |
| 19:51.57 | numist | hrm |
| 19:51.58 | scanlime | the GUI is already pretty well optimized, and it automatically throttles back frame rate when the image isn't changing quickly |
| 19:52.18 | numist | fancy |
| 19:52.40 | numist | I see |
| 19:52.41 | scanlime | it really does deserve the 1.0 version number |
| 19:52.46 | numist | and still no eta on 2, eh? |
| 19:52.55 | scanlime | nah, we haven't been that interested in it lately |
| 19:53.08 | scanlime | heh |
| 19:53.11 | scanlime | well too bad on both accounts! |
| 19:53.16 | numist | :( |
| 19:53.23 | numist | oh well, Im still learning things as I go |
| 19:53.26 | scanlime | hehe |
| 19:53.29 | scanlime | uvswitch is really simple actually |
| 19:53.34 | numist | I know |
| 19:53.46 | numist | but its still just a bit above me on the hardware side.. lemme catch up first :) |
| 19:53.54 | scanlime | nod |
| 19:54.47 | hardwire | anybody else having an omfgwtf day? |
| 19:54.51 | numist | yes |
| 19:54.52 | numist | omg yes |
| 19:56.08 | hardwire | wtf you know. |
| 19:56.34 | hardwire | I am 50% sure I want to skip work and go watch a movie. |
| 19:56.57 | numist | nice, fyre is throwing all sorts of gdk critical assertions |
| 19:57.30 | numist | 50% sure? |
| 20:01.09 | numist | scanlime: what is a photo-quality level for fyre? |
| 20:01.26 | scanlime | numist: check the README |
| 20:02.14 | scanlime | which package doesn't include the readme? |
| 20:02.27 | numist | dont know where it went if it did have one.. I just dpkg'ed |
| 20:02.52 | scanlime | ah. might be in /usr/share/doc, but I haven't tried the deb |
| 20:04.01 | numist | I dont have gzcat?! |
| 20:04.05 | numist | yes, it was |
| 20:04.21 | scanlime | isn't it just zcat? |
| 20:04.23 | numist | urr, Im too used to bz |
| 20:04.34 | scanlime | heck, most versions of 'less' in the last couple years transparently gunzip stuff |
| 20:04.44 | numist | didnt know that |
| 20:05.35 | kergoth | vim transparently gunzips too |
| 20:06.10 | numist | nice |
| 20:06.47 | numist | aww no cluster support on the debian package |
| 20:07.18 | scanlime | heh, that sucks |
| 20:07.36 | numist | yeah, and my size was out largerthan sizeof(guint) |
| 20:07.39 | numist | :( |
| 20:08.01 | scanlime | your size? |
| 20:08.36 | numist | the iamge size |
| 20:08.39 | numist | not that size, silly :P |
| 20:09.05 | scanlime | uh.. why did you want an image bigger than 2^32 on a side? |
| 20:09.18 | numist | um, it said that 100,000 was too big |
| 20:09.31 | scanlime | guint is 32 bits |
| 20:09.53 | scanlime | the 100,000 limit is probably just because of the number of digits on the size entry widgets... |
| 20:10.03 | scanlime | but still, why do you want 100,000 pixels on a side? |
| 20:10.08 | numist | (fyre:8009): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: value "100000" of type 'guint' is invalid or out of range for property 'width' of type 'guint' |
| 20:10.16 | numist | so I can print it on a print |
| 20:10.16 | scanlime | yes yes, I know |
| 20:10.19 | numist | like purple_cow :) |
| 20:10.22 | scanlime | guh |
| 20:10.24 | numist | :P |
| 20:10.25 | scanlime | 100000??? |
| 20:10.28 | numist | sure |
| 20:10.36 | numist | Ill make it fit >D |
| 20:10.38 | scanlime | how big a print, and waht resolution? |
| 20:10.56 | numist | havent done the math yet, just seeing how long itll take |
| 20:11.10 | numist | I figure top res 8" square |
| 20:11.17 | numist | my 5550 can do 4800dpi iirc |
| 20:11.22 | scanlime | ok.. so how about you consider how much RAM it would need and how many pixels you really need before complaining about fyre bugs |
| 20:11.27 | numist | hehe |
| 20:11.30 | numist | its not buggy |
| 20:11.44 | scanlime | you're fucking nuts for even suggesting an image 100,000 pixels wide |
| 20:11.44 | numist | it was actually gtk that was slowing things down, in terminal its chugging along great |
| 20:11.48 | numist | lol |
| 20:12.20 | scanlime | the biggest images we've done, which took *large clusters* to render, were less than 10000 |
| 20:12.47 | scanlime | hell, images even close to that size will crash the computers at kinko's |
| 20:13.17 | numist | hey now, I'm playing |
| 20:14.18 | numist | wow, photoshop is refusing to create an image 8" x 8" at 4800 dpi |
| 20:14.39 | numist | best itll do is the memory equivalent of 6.666 inches square at 4500 |
| 20:15.00 | scanlime | numist: it's limited to 32767 pixels, IIRC |
| 20:15.15 | numist | ... |
| 20:15.18 | numist | um, no |
| 20:15.29 | scanlime | because.. guess what... 32767x32767 at 32-bit color uses the ENTIRE 32-BIT ADDRESS SPACE |
| 20:15.39 | numist | ah per side |
| 20:15.43 | numist | thought you meant total |
| 20:16.12 | scanlime | there are tools out there that are good at dealing with images too big to fit in RAM |
| 20:16.15 | scanlime | inkscape is one of them |
| 20:16.27 | scanlime | but just due to the nature of fyre's algorithm, it needs to fit the whole thing in RAM |
| 20:16.40 | numist | yep |
| 20:16.47 | scanlime | sure you could render it in tiles, but each tile would take the same amount of time as the entire image would |
| 20:17.19 | numist | I didnt think de Jong would tile easily either |
| 20:17.53 | scanlime | chaotic maps in general don't.. you don't control where the map generates points, you just capture the ones that happen to hit your image region |
| 20:18.45 | numist | nod |
| 20:21.25 | numist | on the same note, since the maps are chaotic, to cluster youd just have different machines plot points from different initial points? |
| 20:21.54 | scanlime | correct |
| 20:21.59 | numist | thats actually quite easy to cluster, now that I think of it |
| 20:22.02 | scanlime | that's how the clustering is implemented |
| 20:22.02 | numist | clever |
| 20:22.33 | scanlime | the only tricky parts are keeping all the nodes in sync when you're changing parameters in real-time, and compressing/recombining the histograms efficiently |
| 20:22.52 | numist | but it wouldnt be fun without the challenge |
| 20:22.55 | scanlime | it uses a simple compression format that's basically RLE plus a UTF-8 style variable length integer encoding |
| 20:23.12 | numist | hm |
| 20:46.16 | ChipX86 | bah |
| 20:46.32 | ChipX86 | the epiphany guys forked and heavily modified my iconentry widget a long time ago and never told me or submitted patches |
| 20:46.37 | ChipX86 | no, 2 months ago |
| 20:46.41 | numist | :( |
| 20:47.32 | ChipX86 | it's still LGPL though |
| 20:47.35 | ChipX86 | so I'm going to rip it off |
| 20:47.46 | numist | hehe nice |
| 20:47.53 | ChipX86 | it's no different than what they did |
| 20:47.56 | numist | commit message: thanks for the patch, wankers |
| 20:48.33 | ChipX86 | the same guy who put their new improved icon entry into epiphany is the same guy that originally committed mine |
| 20:48.37 | ChipX86 | so you know it was intentional |
| 20:50.43 | CIA-5 | debian-kernel: 03micah * r4445 10/people/micah/pending_CVE_requests: Resolved conflict |
| 20:52.00 | ChipX86 | bbl |
| 20:58.46 | scanlime | blah |
| 20:58.52 | scanlime | waiting on compiles... |
| 21:08.44 | file[laptop] | Google... hired... yeah... |
| 21:11.13 | scanlime | ? |
| 21:12.05 | file | they hired Sean Egan from gaim |
| 21:12.57 | scanlime | haha.. he'll destroy the company from the inside :P |
| 21:13.03 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 21:13.08 | file | yeah I was thinking that lol |
| 21:20.18 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (8 files in 6 dirs): log all bad things that happen |
| 21:34.41 | numist | mmm pad thai |
| 22:06.06 | scanlime | blah. |
| 22:06.18 | scanlime | my windows build is broken... |
| 22:06.53 | scanlime | sorry, it's still broken :P |
| 22:06.58 | file | bah |
| 22:30.31 | ChipX86 | heh, this is such a ripoff |
| 22:30.42 | ChipX86 | I wonder what the epiphany developer is going to say to my e-mail |
| 22:30.51 | *** join/#tacobeam lurgy (n=lurgyman@67-41-140-229.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 22:31.14 | numist | did you send a rather strongly worded message? |
| 22:31.35 | ChipX86 | it wasn't strongly worded per se, but more matter-of-factly |
| 22:31.51 | numist | hey, you didnt commit back |
| 22:32.01 | ChipX86 | thank you for fixing these bugs. I noticed that the copyright header is wrong. Please fix it. I'll be moving a lot of your code back into my project. Thanks. |
| 22:32.35 | scanlime | guh.. the installer for sony's minidisc software is awful |
| 22:32.50 | scanlime | I had to use task manager to keep it from rebooting my machine.. and it's full-screen |
| 22:34.04 | scanlime | and it keeps starting and stopping installshield for different things |
| 22:34.49 | scanlime | #$#@$#@$ |
| 22:34.52 | scanlime | POS |
| 22:34.55 | scanlime | it just rebooted anyway |
| 22:35.01 | scanlime | at least my p4 sync finished |
| 22:35.20 | numist | yeah, the md software is horrible |
| 22:35.58 | scanlime | yeah.. with an installer that bad, I'm not optimistic for their jukebox app |
| 22:38.28 | ChipX86 | pfft |
| 22:38.37 | ChipX86 | why use a HD-based or flash-based player when you can have minidiscs? |
| 22:38.44 | ChipX86 | they're so superior |
| 22:38.50 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/3d/src/textures.cpp: don't use ILUT by default, instead generate mip maps and make things not look like crap. |
| 22:39.19 | scanlime | yay.. now I get to install it again, in a VM this time |
| 22:39.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/src/menuBackground.cpp: |
| 22:39.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: let there be a light |
| 22:39.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: and some more variation to the camera |
| 22:40.00 | scanlime | micah@zero /var/log $ ls |
| 22:40.00 | scanlime | Segmentation fault |
| 22:40.02 | scanlime | I love UML... |
| 22:40.57 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 22:40.58 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 22:41.02 | Sophie197 | I love everyone. |
| 22:41.10 | ChipX86 | Sophie197: *hug*! |
| 22:41.12 | Sophie197 | except republicans :) |
| 22:41.18 | scanlime | hehe |
| 22:42.26 | ChipX86 | mmm |
| 22:42.36 | ChipX86 | :D |
| 22:42.44 | scanlime | matt has been running this creepy hard disk recovery program for the last couple days.. it keeps chirping |
| 22:42.55 | ChipX86 | fun :/ |
| 22:43.00 | scanlime | and it looks like a cross between a star trek control panel and QBasic Nibbles |
| 22:43.05 | ChipX86 | neat |
| 22:43.17 | scanlime | now it's flashing "Initiating DynaStat Recovery System" |
| 22:43.21 | scanlime | and it tells you how many bits it's scanned |
| 22:43.43 | scanlime | golly, it just hit 500 |
| 22:47.36 | purple_cow | http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1012055miers2.html |
| 22:53.30 | numist | wow, really fast there isnt it |
| 22:57.35 | lurgy | purple_cow: hahaha |
| 22:57.36 | lurgy | purple_cow: wtf |
| 23:00.26 | ChipX86 | :( |
| 23:00.31 | ChipX86 | deskbar no longer uses libsexy |
| 23:00.34 | numist | :( |
| 23:00.46 | ChipX86 | because of epiphany's forked widget |
| 23:00.55 | ChipX86 | which, btw, is a GtkBin, not a GtkEntry, and thus is less sexy |
| 23:01.01 | ChipX86 | but mine is buggy.. which I shall fix momentarily |
| 23:01.04 | numist | how do you read that.. thats even worse than my writing :( |
| 23:01.27 | ChipX86 | huh? |
| 23:01.34 | lurgy | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Emoticonics |
| 23:01.47 | ChipX86 | oh on that site |
| 23:01.53 | ChipX86 | wow |
| 23:02.00 | ChipX86 | yeah that's bad |
| 23:02.10 | ChipX86 | it's like my signature, though my signature is worse |
| 23:02.18 | ChipX86 | I cross the t in my name, but the t vanished years ago :( |
| 23:02.54 | scanlime | the only really identifiable letters in my signature are the M and the J, I think... |
| 23:04.09 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r300 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-icon-entry.c tests/test-icon-entry.c): Fixed incorrect GdkWindow allocations for the entry window, which on some themes (namely ClearLooks) caused the right-most border to vanish. |
| 23:04.39 | ChipX86 | yay for working on open source at work |
| 23:04.46 | scanlime | agggh |
| 23:04.54 | scanlime | change 268959... |
| 23:05.06 | scanlime | that fixes one of the two things that's been causing me headaches today |
| 23:05.23 | numist | and the other? |
| 23:05.23 | ChipX86 | ah |
| 23:05.29 | ChipX86 | thought that was the trainwreck commit |
| 23:05.42 | scanlime | well, ok... one of the 4 or 5 things causing me headaches today |
| 23:06.20 | numist | hehe |
| 23:07.01 | scanlime | I'm having another problem with my windows build, which hopefully this clean build will fix... got bluetooth problems on windows hosts, and this MD software installer is still pissing me off |
| 23:08.15 | numist | meh |
| 23:19.41 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r301 10libsexy/ (ChangeLog libsexy/sexy-icon-entry.c tests/test-icon-entry.c): |
| 23:19.41 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - If the set icon's width is less than the width of GTK_ICON_SIZE_MENU, expand it. |
| 23:19.41 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: - Made the test program more gooder. |
| 23:20.19 | scanlime | hell yeah.. I click the "import" button in OpenMG Jukebox and it crashes my winxp box hard |
| 23:20.36 | scanlime | while I'm compiling |
| 23:21.50 | purple_cow | ``Emoticons are similar to Decepticons but are much more open about their feelings.'' |
| 23:22.21 | ChipX86 | hahha |
| 23:25.32 | scanlime | maybe I should do something real drastic and turn off the kernel debugger on my windows box... |
| 23:51.04 | purple_cow | http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/10/1012_051012_chinese_noodles.html |
| 23:54.06 | CIA-5 | osiris-misc: 03chipx86 * r302 10libsexy/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Updated the SexyIconEntry API to take an icon position parameter for all icon functions. This is ignored right now, but eventually it'll allow for icons on both sides of the entry. |
| 23:55.58 | ChipX86 | mmm, Grundman. Good music |
| 23:56.05 | ChipX86 | purple_cow: the gtkdoc stuff is so broken for me in libsexy :( |
| 23:56.12 | ChipX86 | I can't even build it |
| 23:56.16 | ChipX86 | on any ubuntu box I try |
| 23:58.46 | purple_cow | :( |