| 00:00.05 | hardwire | thats wild |
| 00:00.15 | hardwire | so it CRC's blocks of ram as they are stored? |
| 00:00.30 | hardwire | changed |
| 00:01.27 | scanlime | I'm not sure how it works, I think there's something separate that uses idle cycles to go through and find matches |
| 00:01.46 | scanlime | it ends up finding a lot of common RAM when you consider shared libraries and kernels and such |
| 00:02.09 | hardwire | in a linux server farm environment.. where everything is the same I can totally see how |
| 00:02.14 | scanlime | I mean, all of that stuff is just mapped straight from disk into RAM, and it's always page-aligned |
| 00:02.20 | hardwire | however that only saves in host memory right? |
| 00:02.24 | hardwire | before swapping |
| 00:02.39 | hardwire | it will still have a static amount per machine.. cause who the hell has a variable ram system? |
| 00:02.41 | scanlime | yes.. but host RAM is really a precious resource in ESX installations |
| 00:02.50 | hardwire | yeh I bet |
| 00:03.04 | hardwire | it would be interesting to have a share available for dynamic ram. |
| 00:03.10 | hardwire | where you can use a swapfs :) |
| 00:03.24 | hardwire | I remember that being used w/ the Zaurus |
| 00:03.38 | scanlime | uh.. a shared swap partition? |
| 00:03.51 | hardwire | scanlime: its a funked up concept.. no worries :) |
| 00:03.57 | hardwire | physical is always priority one anyways |
| 00:03.57 | scanlime | it's a really bad idea :P |
| 00:04.11 | scanlime | you don't want to give one VM the chance to spy on or corrupt another VM's swap |
| 00:04.27 | hardwire | it does sound fun :) |
| 00:05.08 | hardwire | wow.. adobe creative suite |
| 00:05.12 | hardwire | 10 copies just sitting here unused |
| 00:09.06 | hardwire | I think when I set up my little share of the company |
| 00:09.12 | hardwire | where I will be hiring people for document services |
| 00:09.16 | hardwire | Adobe will be used |
| 00:09.32 | hardwire | just because its the only damn way to do things. |
| 00:20.08 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/ (inc/menus.h src/client.cpp src/menus.cpp): menu stuff |
| 00:20.44 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/common/ (inc/URLManager.h src/URLManager.cpp): unused data |
| 00:21.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/3d/ (inc/display.h src/display.cpp): set a matrix with Z up |
| 00:37.46 | hardwire | scanlime: you are good at this.. how do you tell somebody.. "You know.. I couldn't care less" |
| 00:43.23 | scanlime | ... |
| 00:43.44 | scanlime | hardwire: usually by ignoring them and going back to what I was doing? |
| 00:44.00 | hardwire | the IRC life. |
| 00:44.13 | scanlime | I don't usually have to do that in real life... people with any social skills at all can generally pick up on when you're completely uninterested in what you're saying |
| 00:44.43 | hardwire | You know how I am excited on IRC.. we hired a guy that is excited IRL.. and won't shut up |
| 00:44.52 | hardwire | like you.. I have no idea what he is talking about |
| 00:44.56 | scanlime | heh |
| 00:44.58 | scanlime | wonderful |
| 00:45.45 | scanlime | woo |
| 00:45.49 | hardwire | he just spent like 5 minutes telling me about the amoutn of people we are going to hire.. and I just kept thinking.. ok.. wonderfull.. you want to hire 200 people.. uh huh.. do they all need phones?.. where do you plan on putting them.. you are right.. it is exciting.. |
| 00:45.50 | hardwire | I am done now |
| 00:45.59 | hardwire | and illustrator works surprisingly well over rdesktop |
| 00:48.17 | darth_mall | awww... google doesn't even want to talk to me |
| 00:49.06 | scanlime | HOO-HAH! 200MB and it isn't even halfway done |
| 00:56.33 | scanlime | ooga... |
| 00:56.42 | orchid | what are some good computer speakers for really loud music? ive blown one of my Klipsh and need a new set |
| 00:56.44 | scanlime | these line numbers are 7 digits |
| 00:57.23 | scanlime | guh |
| 00:57.28 | scanlime | emacs can't handle a 228MB file? |
| 00:58.08 | scanlime | +10 points to vim |
| 00:58.39 | orchid | do you have font-lock on or something? |
| 00:58.58 | scanlime | yes, but it shouldn't be triggered by this file type.. I doubt that's the problem |
| 00:59.05 | scanlime | it complains about the maximum buffer size being exceeded |
| 01:11.56 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (8 files in 6 dirs): texturing and menuing to work better ( better then 15 fps ) |
| 01:26.45 | scanlime | mmm |
| 01:26.55 | scanlime | linux's timer is so much higher resolution than windows' |
| 01:32.48 | scanlime | sweet! |
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| 01:48.06 | purple_cow | orchid: most "computer speakers" are pretty terrible |
| 01:48.16 | purple_cow | altec lansing does reasonably ok |
| 01:52.03 | scanlime | AUGGGGH! |
| 01:52.08 | scanlime | damnit |
| 01:52.16 | scanlime | where's Chris.. I know exactly why this is failing now |
| 01:56.52 | scanlime | well that was satisfying |
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| 02:48.11 | laodamas | corn is no place for a mighty warrior |
| 02:50.13 | scanlime | mmm |
| 02:50.16 | scanlime | hungry... |
| 03:11.10 | kergoth | there, finally remembered to email you that cia request |
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| 03:22.11 | darth_mall | I don't think it's a man. I think it's a bear that likes key lime pie |
| 03:22.22 | zak | i like key lime pie |
| 03:22.33 | zak | and I am sad i didn't get some last time |
| 03:22.40 | kergoth | !emulate peter |
| 03:22.45 | kergoth | wem |
| 03:22.48 | zak | was it good? despite rich's help ^_^ |
| 03:22.48 | darth_mall | heh |
| 03:22.49 | kergoth | ~emulate peter |
| 03:22.50 | jbot | Chris, everything I say is a lie. Except that. And that. And that. And that. And that. An |
| 03:23.13 | scanlime | zak: the onions hurt :( |
| 03:23.16 | scanlime | sulfuric acid! |
| 03:23.27 | zak | cut them under running water! |
| 03:23.30 | zak | pay more money! |
| 03:23.31 | scanlime | too late |
| 03:23.35 | scanlime | more money? |
| 03:23.50 | scanlime | for.. onions that don't emit noxious fumes? |
| 03:24.20 | zak | no. if you run water whilst cutting onions, you pay more on your water bill |
| 03:24.52 | zak | purple_cow: so any updates on actual celebration of you and getting older |
| 03:25.12 | scanlime | ah. a little.. |
| 03:25.29 | zak | which, btw, HAPPY BIRTHDAY purple_cow |
| 03:25.38 | scanlime | =D |
| 03:32.55 | kergoth | ~god |
| 03:32.57 | jbot | rumour has it, god is a llama, or real unless declared integer |
| 03:33.29 | KeyserSoze | hehe. i woulda thought y'all were too young for FORTRAN jokes |
| 03:39.17 | Veight{away} | llamas rule |
| 03:39.29 | kergoth | ~llama |
| 03:39.31 | jbot | somebody said llama was the incarnation of god on earth, or http://images2.jokaroo.net/flash/llamasong.swf |
| 03:39.36 | kergoth | yay, llama song |
| 03:39.41 | Veight{sleep} | yes! |
| 03:40.00 | Veight{sleep} | oh happy bday purple_cow |
| 03:40.01 | kergoth | is it made of lemon juice? doorknob ankle cold |
| 03:40.16 | Veight{sleep} | both! |
| 03:40.18 | scanlime | KeyserSoze: FORTRAN humor is timeless |
| 03:44.00 | kergoth | ~tick |
| 03:44.01 | jbot | Eating kittens is just plain... plain wrong! And no-one should do it, ever! |
| 03:44.59 | scanlime | yes.. there are far better uses for kittens |
| 03:45.08 | kergoth | ~tick |
| 03:45.10 | jbot | I'm nigh-invulnerable |
| 03:45.31 | nullpuppy | like huffing them... |
| 03:45.58 | nullpuppy | :(( 99.9% done with House of the Flying Daggers.. |
| 03:47.33 | nullpuppy | arg! no fscking seeds... :( |
| 03:48.51 | scanlime | mmmm |
| 03:49.20 | scanlime | *hug* |
| 03:49.23 | zak | hey now |
| 03:49.37 | scanlime | I told ya you couldn't stop me |
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| 03:50.10 | pagefault | hey |
| 03:50.35 | numist | hrm |
| 03:50.44 | numist | anyone active that has EE experience? |
| 03:51.11 | numist | I do |
| 03:51.11 | zak | try scanlime or lurgy|work |
| 03:51.22 | numist | why wouldnt I want your help? not good enough? |
| 03:51.27 | zak | no, not. |
| 03:51.31 | numist | :( |
| 03:51.33 | zak | i am in circuits 1 |
| 03:51.42 | numist | thats ok, I still havent taken a single course |
| 03:51.43 | zak | so if it's ohm's law, i am your lady |
| 03:51.49 | zak | otherwise... |
| 03:51.49 | numist | just throwing together things I see |
| 03:51.52 | numist | hehe |
| 03:51.55 | numist | its not ohms law |
| 03:52.20 | nullpuppy | dammit.. I have the video.. but the subtitles aren't finished... :/ |
| 03:52.20 | zak | try scanlime, he will prolly disappear, but, you can try |
| 03:52.22 | nullpuppy | *sigh* |
| 03:52.40 | numist | in the headphone connectors I got, there are two pins that are close normally, and open when you insert a headphone jack... and I am trying to figure out how to make that into my power switch |
| 03:52.56 | numist | but it opens when you plug it in, which is really unhelpful |
| 03:53.05 | numist | and theres not enough room in this enclosure for boolean logic |
| 03:53.09 | scanlime | heh |
| 03:53.12 | scanlime | what are you trying to do? |
| 03:53.20 | numist | amplifier |
| 03:53.22 | scanlime | mmmmmmmmm...... tasty dinner |
| 03:53.25 | numist | yay dinner |
| 03:53.37 | scanlime | numist: ok.. so you want it to turn on when plugged in? |
| 03:53.41 | numist | I have a headphone jack that has two pins that are closed when it is unplugged |
| 03:53.42 | numist | yes |
| 03:53.52 | numist | in as small a space as possible |
| 03:54.27 | scanlime | well, you can't make it truly zero power draw when off, if all you have is a switch that opens when you want it on |
| 03:54.40 | numist | yeah, I was afraid of that |
| 03:54.45 | scanlime | is this battery powered? |
| 03:54.47 | numist | and sure of that |
| 03:54.49 | numist | yes, dual 9V |
| 03:55.15 | numist | so its worth it to use a real switch instead of have a small load when it's 'off' |
| 03:55.17 | scanlime | you can however make it real close to no power draw with a MOSFET and a resistor or two |
| 03:55.22 | numist | is that so |
| 03:55.23 | scanlime | well |
| 03:55.24 | scanlime | depends |
| 03:55.28 | numist | I havent worked with mosfets ever |
| 03:55.30 | scanlime | 'small load' may be micro- or nano-amps |
| 03:55.36 | numist | oh thats small enough then |
| 03:55.51 | scanlime | are you familiar with other types of transistors? |
| 03:56.05 | numist | tiny working knowlege only |
| 03:56.09 | numist | PNP only |
| 03:56.12 | scanlime | mmm... this is good. I let the beef sear just a bit towards the end, and the veggies are cooked just right |
| 03:56.20 | numist | you sear it at the end? |
| 03:56.28 | numist | I usually do it at the beginning to trap moisture |
| 03:56.31 | scanlime | numist: ok.. so BJTs (like PNPs and NPNs) are current amplifiers |
| 03:57.00 | scanlime | numist: I got plenty of moisture in this stir-fry... it prolly helps to let the veggies and beef and sauce all mingle together |
| 03:57.12 | numist | ah sauce, no problem |
| 03:57.34 | numist | ok, BJT's amplify current |
| 03:57.48 | scanlime | right. FETs are more like voltage controlled resistors |
| 03:58.22 | numist | so you use the voltage from the monitor circuit to control the voltage on the main power circuit... |
| 03:58.24 | scanlime | put their gate at 0v relative to the drain, and theoretically no current flows between source and drain |
| 03:58.41 | scanlime | after the gate passes a threshold voltage though, they act like a resistor, typicaly a very tiny one |
| 03:58.58 | scanlime | MOSFETs are great at switching high-current loads efficiently, since the control signal can stay small |
| 03:58.58 | zak | scanlime: you are warned, i am going to try and convince you to help me fix my mp3 player when you are here |
| 03:59.09 | numist | so the gate acts like a zener diode with the gate set at 0V relative to drain |
| 03:59.11 | zak | step number 1, cracing the case...i can't figure it out |
| 03:59.12 | scanlime | zak: uh oh. need me to bring any tools? |
| 03:59.47 | scanlime | numist: well, it does switch on gradually, but you almost always use a MOSFET as a switch- and you try to switch it on and off fast to minimize switching losses |
| 04:00.17 | scanlime | no spare jacks on me... but we might just be able to bend the existing one back into place a little |
| 04:00.23 | zak | it's an 1/8" widget |
| 04:00.41 | numist | Ive got 2 1/8" and a 3.5mm which Im exchanging tomorrow |
| 04:00.42 | zak | i hope so, cause it is being all bad and not making noise |
| 04:00.49 | numist | mislabeled misfortune |
| 04:00.55 | zak | numist: wanna send me one ^_^ |
| 04:01.00 | numist | sure |
| 04:01.00 | scanlime | numist: you'll want to read something a little more formal on them prolly.. but I bet you could just stick a P-channel mosfet in there, pull the gate high with some high-value resistors, then wire it to ground via the switch |
| 04:01.03 | zak | save me a possible trip to radio shack |
| 04:01.18 | numist | radio shack didnt have em here.. I got mine at digital elex |
| 04:01.24 | numist | scanlime: Im loking at wikipedia now |
| 04:01.30 | scanlime | zak: you prolly need a PCB-mount socket, which radio shack doesn't have... saunders might though |
| 04:01.47 | zak | i don't think it is broken badly |
| 04:01.53 | scanlime | numist: I don't trust wikipedia for electronics, their entry on transistors was kinda pretty wrong |
| 04:01.55 | zak | it works sometimes |
| 04:02.05 | zak | lol...it is wikipedia |
| 04:02.11 | numist | scanlime: was it now.. guess that explains how I know so much about transistors >_> |
| 04:02.13 | zak | wikipedia ! |
| 04:02.15 | zak | kfjdlskfj |
| 04:02.21 | zak | wikipedia != god |
| 04:02.25 | numist | scanlime: any good source on mosfet learning and example circuits? |
| 04:02.39 | scanlime | mmm.. nice and spicy |
| 04:02.45 | zak | wikipedia == godlike (if you are looking for a recipe for mayo the just involves eggs and vinegar) |
| 04:03.01 | zak | scanlime: what did you make? |
| 04:03.01 | scanlime | numist: there are prolly a lot online, but I really recommend Forrest M. Mims' books |
| 04:03.18 | numist | hrm.. everythings closed around here |
| 04:03.22 | scanlime | zak: beef, bell pepper (green and yellow), red onion, carrot, and sczechuan sauce |
| 04:03.38 | zak | mmmm. |
| 04:03.41 | zak | yummy |
| 04:03.48 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:03.50 | zak | but has burrito |
| 04:05.55 | scanlime | mmm |
| 04:05.58 | scanlime | bell pepper... |
| 04:06.13 | zak | scanlime: you should watch butterfly affect |
| 04:06.18 | zak | effect |
| 04:06.21 | scanlime | don't have it :( |
| 04:06.46 | kergoth | make sure you get the director's cut |
| 04:06.49 | kergoth | the theatrical ending sucks |
| 04:06.49 | numist | hrm |
| 04:07.26 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 04:07.27 | jbot | my walnuts! |
| 04:08.07 | numist | ~emulate fry |
| 04:08.08 | jbot | Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you. |
| 04:13.26 | scanlime | woo |
| 04:13.28 | scanlime | cowboy bebop |
| 04:15.49 | zak | kergoth: i agree |
| 04:15.53 | zak | fuck happy endings |
| 04:17.23 | scanlime | zak: no itll for you |
| 04:17.28 | scanlime | zak: ist verboten! |
| 04:18.27 | zak | wrong friend |
| 04:18.36 | zak | je parle le francais! |
| 04:19.05 | scanlime | no me gusta le francais! |
| 04:19.11 | zak | que? |
| 04:19.11 | numist | scanlime: so source in +9V, gate through high resistance to ground, and then drain to main circuit? |
| 04:19.25 | numist | ne parle pas le francais! |
| 04:19.27 | scanlime | hola vaca loco! |
| 04:20.00 | numist | j'aim mangez mis enfants sur du pan grille avec du buerre |
| 04:20.06 | scanlime | numist: it's a P-channel mosfet, IIRC drain should be +9v |
| 04:20.21 | scanlime | numist: but yeah |
| 04:20.39 | numist | drain is Vin, gate to normally-closed switch, source to main circuits +9V line |
| 04:20.48 | numist | check? |
| 04:21.24 | scanlime | yea.. and that would mean the MOSFET turns on when the gate-drain voltage goes below -Vgs |
| 04:21.29 | scanlime | typically -4V or so |
| 04:22.00 | scanlime | so tie that to ground through a high resistance, maybe 100K or so... with a switch to 9V from the battery |
| 04:22.26 | scanlime | when idle, that switch is closed, the mosfet is off, and the only current drawn (besides mosfet leakage) is across that 100k resistor |
| 04:22.34 | zak | may not be useful |
| 04:22.41 | zak | but it might be |
| 04:22.47 | scanlime | so.. 90 microamps |
| 04:22.52 | zak | eitherway, you can learn lots..i shpose |
| 04:23.02 | numist | higher resistance == ok? |
| 04:23.53 | scanlime | you can try it... but the higher you push that resistance, the longer it takes for your power to ramp up to full voltage |
| 04:24.01 | scanlime | remember that the mosfet gate also acts like a capacitor |
| 04:24.07 | numist | well, this is an amplifier... |
| 04:24.14 | scanlime | when you first turn it on, that capacitor is discharged.. you have to charge it via that resistor to turn it on |
| 04:24.37 | numist | so it will take longer to power off... |
| 04:24.57 | scanlime | ok, so long ramp time isn't really critical I guess. You can experiment with different resistors.. the only dangerous thing might be dissipation through the mosfet during ramp-up.. but if you're running this on 9V the currents are probably plenty low for that |
| 04:25.01 | scanlime | no, longer to power on |
| 04:25.14 | numist | hrm |
| 04:25.15 | scanlime | powering off should be pretty much instant- you're shorting the gate capacitor across your switch |
| 04:25.23 | numist | right |
| 04:25.46 | scanlime | so.. one problem with this design as I've described it, is that you need one leg of your switch at +9V (directly to the battery) |
| 04:25.52 | scanlime | most headphone jacks aren't wired like that |
| 04:25.58 | scanlime | you get a switch between an extra pin and ground |
| 04:26.28 | numist | yeah... Id need to put a diode or something on one of the lines on the jack to make sure it doesnt send anything to the headphones or control circuit that I dont want |
| 04:26.37 | scanlime | the easy solution to that is to use an n-channel mosfet and switch ground rather than switching +9v |
| 04:26.48 | scanlime | no.. diode wouldn't help there |
| 04:27.46 | numist | hrm.. I just realised.. what am I going to hook the other end of the switch to if when it opens its conencted to the headphone's drivers |
| 04:28.03 | scanlime | uhhuh.. that's what I'm talking about |
| 04:28.08 | numist | yes... |
| 04:28.19 | scanlime | maybe a picture would help |
| 04:28.23 | numist | I think so |
| 04:29.06 | scanlime | I should go back to work and use this as an exuse to play with the scanner some more ;) |
| 04:29.26 | scanlime | ah.. apt-get geda-gschem |
| 04:29.44 | numist | nice |
| 04:30.21 | scanlime | ugh.. gschem with a 2-button mouse sucks |
| 04:30.46 | numist | dont you have a port replicator or somesuch for your laptop? |
| 04:30.54 | scanlime | I could put in a USB mouse |
| 04:31.00 | scanlime | but it's hardly worth it for such a small circuit |
| 04:31.40 | scanlime | heh.. I always have to retrain myself for different keyboard shortcuts when I switch between gschem, blender, and protel |
| 04:31.44 | scanlime | they're similar, but not quite the same |
| 04:32.15 | numist | one of the blender people actually goes to my school now |
| 04:32.26 | numist | apparently weds will be a rc for the next major release |
| 04:32.36 | numist | he's the linux package manager iirc |
| 04:32.59 | scanlime | neat |
| 04:33.17 | numist | threw me off too.. he's a first-year this year |
| 04:33.31 | numist | and he came up with his own hashing algorithm that blows anything currently in RFC away |
| 04:33.39 | numist | wrote a whitepaper on it in HS |
| 04:39.55 | file | if at first it doesn't work, blow it up |
| 04:41.25 | numist | I like that kind of approach sometimes |
| 04:42.00 | kergoth | bored |
| 04:42.14 | scanlime | numist: http://navi.cx/~micah/amp-power.png |
| 04:42.16 | scanlime | that's what I had in mind |
| 04:42.32 | purple_cow | please, kids! my philosophy is "love and dance!" not "hate, and not dance" |
| 04:42.40 | scanlime | the stuff in that green box should be equivalent to your connector |
| 04:42.45 | scanlime | :) |
| 04:43.38 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.38 | kergoth | Q: Why is it that Mexico isn't sending anyone to the '84 summer games? |
| 04:43.38 | kergoth | A: Anyone in Mexico who can run, swim or jump is already in LA. |
| 04:44.06 | scanlime | heh |
| 04:45.06 | numist | for the uninitiated... J1 == Jumper? |
| 04:45.18 | numist | hrm.. what did you have in mind |
| 04:45.59 | scanlime | J* == jumper/jack.. typical for any sort of connector |
| 04:46.05 | numist | I also need to redraw this guy's power circuit, since theres supposedly 9+, 9-, and Gnd involved here |
| 04:46.15 | scanlime | heh |
| 04:46.19 | numist | ok, so whats the magic box |
| 04:46.33 | scanlime | the one with the amplifier symbol on it? that's your amplifier |
| 04:46.35 | scanlime | :P |
| 04:46.38 | numist | oh psh |
| 04:53.22 | lurgy | blah |
| 04:53.29 | lurgy | take that, circuits homework |
| 04:53.37 | numist | hail lurgy |
| 04:53.55 | lurgy | hi |
| 04:54.04 | numist | hrm.. I really wish I had a digicam |
| 04:54.13 | lurgy | i wish i had some cabbage |
| 04:55.25 | file[laptop] | lurgy: I hear they have those at the grocery store |
| 04:55.40 | numist | I wish I had some sense |
| 04:56.06 | file[laptop] | numist: can't help you there |
| 04:56.21 | numist | :( |
| 04:56.32 | numist | waiting for ubuntu |
| 04:59.02 | lurgy | mm |
| 04:59.04 | lurgy | cabbage |
| 04:59.47 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.48 | kergoth | Q: How many IBM CPU's does it take to do a logical right shift? |
| 04:59.48 | kergoth | A: 33. 1 to hold the bits and 32 to push the register. |
| 04:59.50 | kergoth | bored. |
| 05:01.02 | scanlime | take a walk |
| 05:01.06 | scanlime | cook something |
| 05:01.08 | scanlime | read a book |
| 05:01.12 | scanlime | eat some cabbage |
| 05:02.07 | purple_cow | silly "flaky" dough |
| 05:02.46 | lurgy | :( |
| 05:02.48 | lurgy | guh |
| 05:02.53 | lurgy | i think i'm gonna go to bed, i'm wiped |
| 05:03.00 | purple_cow | at least this should be tasty |
| 05:03.06 | lurgy | happy birthday though, purple_cow :) |
| 05:03.22 | purple_cow | :) |
| 05:03.24 | lurgy | if you two haven't eaten it all tonight then perhaps i can come try a bit tomorrow |
| 05:03.24 | scanlime | yes :) |
| 05:03.40 | purple_cow | lurgy: it'll have to cool for a few hours - i doubt i'll even cut it tonight |
| 05:03.48 | scanlime | purple_cow: I even have a present for you ;) |
| 05:03.57 | lurgy | okeydokey |
| 05:04.08 | lurgy | sounds good |
| 05:04.10 | lurgy | but for now.. |
| 05:04.11 | purple_cow | scanlime: will it work on my TV? |
| 05:04.11 | lurgy | good night :) |
| 05:04.23 | scanlime | purple_cow: it should |
| 05:05.00 | scanlime | though I guess your optimal uvswitch would have s-video for the computer but composite for the video games... |
| 05:05.44 | purple_cow | right |
| 05:10.28 | scanlime | bah.. |
| 05:10.36 | scanlime | expansys doesn't believe in answering machines |
| 05:10.42 | scanlime | I'll have to call them back tomorrow before work |
| 05:10.49 | scanlime | they still have the wrong billing address apparently |
| 05:11.32 | scanlime | might as well email them also |
| 05:11.54 | numist | so scanlime... in your diagram, S1 has either terminal either grounded via R1 (pin 1) or attached to V+ (pin 2)... where'd that switch come from... |
| 05:13.08 | numist | J1 is one of the switches internal to the jack if my understanding is correct |
| 05:13.14 | scanlime | uh |
| 05:13.17 | scanlime | J1 is the jack |
| 05:13.23 | scanlime | S1 is the switch built in to the jack |
| 05:13.35 | scanlime | that whole green box is actually representing the switch + jack you have with 3 pins |
| 05:13.48 | numist | problem -- its not set up that way... |
| 05:14.28 | scanlime | oh, this is that other kind.. switch on the center pin? |
| 05:14.34 | scanlime | that won't work |
| 05:14.36 | numist | theres 5 pins on the widget -- ground, R-channel, R-channel-stopper, L-channel, and L-channel stopper |
| 05:14.51 | scanlime | stopper..? |
| 05:15.02 | numist | numbered 1 - 5, normally 2&3 and 4+5 are closed |
| 05:15.13 | scanlime | ok, so it's designed to connect to a speaker when nothing's plugged in |
| 05:15.22 | numist | when a jack is inserted, 3 & 5 are open, and 2 & 4 go to channels on the headphones |
| 05:15.26 | scanlime | there's probably a way to make it work, but it's really not worth the trouble |
| 05:15.46 | numist | hrm |
| 05:16.15 | numist | yeah, as I understand it they come from a laptop manufacturing plant and thats how they control current to the laptop speakers |
| 05:16.31 | numist | hrm.. damn |
| 05:27.39 | purple_cow | welp, it smells right |
| 05:27.51 | scanlime | what kind of pie are you making today |
| 05:27.52 | scanlime | ? |
| 05:28.01 | purple_cow | appuru |
| 05:28.07 | scanlime | kawaii! |
| 05:29.58 | scanlime | actually, banana is what I'm really in the mood for |
| 05:30.02 | scanlime | hmm.. banana-apple... |
| 05:30.54 | purple_cow | i'm not sure bananas work well in a traditional fruit pie |
| 05:31.05 | scanlime | hehe, yeah |
| 05:31.28 | scanlime | you could put the bananas and the apple in a blender and make it more like a banana creme pie |
| 05:31.57 | purple_cow | or do a tart |
| 05:32.05 | scanlime | yea |
| 05:32.11 | scanlime | mm |
| 05:32.16 | scanlime | I think we're cooking again when I come over :) |
| 05:32.22 | scanlime | dessert this time |
| 05:32.44 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r202 10prototype/src/MenuItem.java: Productivity! MenuItem extends ImagePanel |
| 05:32.50 | scanlime | maybe with a quick main dish, like an easy stir-fry or curry |
| 05:33.15 | purple_cow | well, ideally you bake the pie in the early afternoon |
| 05:33.30 | purple_cow | so you have time to do some reasonable cooking and eat it, and by the time you're done, the pie is cool |
| 05:33.37 | scanlime | hmm, ok |
| 05:33.49 | scanlime | or you could play a short 6-hour game of risk! |
| 05:33.57 | purple_cow | speaking of |
| 05:34.01 | darth_mall | or you could cook the pai in the microwave to speed things up |
| 05:34.12 | purple_cow | darth_mall: eek |
| 05:34.13 | scanlime | pai :P |
| 05:34.56 | darth_mall | yep... apple pai |
| 05:34.59 | darth_mall | for pai eating contests |
| 05:35.03 | darth_mall | hehe |
| 05:35.08 | scanlime | mm.. pai eating... |
| 05:35.21 | darth_mall | so banshee looks just like rhythmbox... |
| 05:35.32 | scanlime | but with a craaaazy green stripe? |
| 05:35.58 | scanlime | ooh.. he put anti-nano-machines in his blood |
| 05:37.18 | scanlime | uh oh |
| 05:37.20 | scanlime | what entry? |
| 05:37.42 | purple_cow | galactic riskopoly |
| 05:37.57 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:38.09 | purple_cow | darth_mall is right |
| 05:38.16 | purple_cow | lurgy and uncyclopedia were made for each other |
| 05:38.38 | scanlime | hehe, NASA entertainologists |
| 05:38.39 | scanlime | yep |
| 05:40.00 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r203 10prototype/src/MenuItem.java: Call the ImagePanel constructor |
| 05:40.30 | darth_mall | if I didn't know better, I'd think that lurgy was Oscar Willde |
| 05:40.36 | darth_mall | s/ll/l/ |
| 05:40.45 | scanlime | lurgy needs to get on Steve Ballmer's hitlist |
| 05:42.29 | purple_cow | ``The Boston Tea Party is unique amongst violent revolutionary acts in having a really girly name. I mean seriously, when the Bolsheviks stormed the Winter Palace, they didn't call it "Mrs. Lenin's Soiree", did they? When the French beheaded Louis XVI they didn't call it "The Paris Sleepover", and they were French, so they had an excuse for acting like teenage schoolgirls. |
| 05:42.29 | purple_cow | '' |
| 05:42.39 | scanlime | “I’m going to fucking bury that guy, I have done it before, and I will do it again. I’m going to fucking kill A1 Steak Sauce.” |
| 05:43.12 | scanlime | :) |
| 05:48.50 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r204 10prototype/src/MediaCenter.java: That cursor nonsense wasn't doing anything. |
| 05:49.03 | darth_mall | geez... TNT is turning into the Julia Roberts channel |
| 05:51.48 | scanlime | ooh.. I want an airplane that drops little jeeps without stopping |
| 05:52.44 | purple_cow | ``A star is a very large very bright object seen in the night sky, such as the moon or anti-aircraft fire. Stars are used for astronomy by scientists and astrology by Wiccans, hippies and other New Age freaks.'' |
| 05:53.26 | darth_mall | hehehe |
| 05:53.35 | purple_cow | haha |
| 05:53.37 | darth_mall | is that from galactic riskopoly |
| 05:53.46 | purple_cow | no, that's from the star article |
| 05:54.08 | purple_cow | the section on how stars are created is all about katamari damacy :) |
| 05:54.38 | scanlime | haha |
| 05:57.30 | kergoth`zzz | night |
| 06:09.15 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r205 10prototype/src/ (MediaCenter.java MenuItem.java): |
| 06:09.16 | CIA-5 | smrt: No more dumbass green box. =( Use the MenuItem class to show a speaker. It's not |
| 06:09.16 | CIA-5 | smrt: positioned or scaled well, but it's there. |
| 06:09.48 | scanlime | you'll prolly want to copy the aspect ratios from the old wasabi source |
| 06:14.44 | numist | anyone here toyed with gps? Im wondering what the best gps widget is for a serial connection |
| 06:29.05 | scanlime | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Football |
| 06:29.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/data/model/ (btank.png gtank.png ptank.png rtank.png styleTank.obj): stylised tank model |
| 06:38.16 | purple_cow | Fun Fact : The Japanese phrase for "thank you" is "three nine" (san kyuu 葉鞘) |
| 06:41.17 | scanlime | wow.. impressive pango-fu on p.g.o |
| 06:41.51 | scanlime | I've been trying to track down a performance problem that's just killing this particular canon scanner... |
| 06:42.05 | scanlime | but it looks like a much more general problem than we thought |
| 06:42.18 | scanlime | Chris was assuming we were just waiting on the guest OS the whole time |
| 06:42.37 | scanlime | but after sorting through a huge pile of timestamps and doing a lot of poking around, I found the real cause |
| 06:42.43 | scanlime | and it's definitely not where we expected |
| 06:42.50 | scanlime | it's probably something relatively easy to fix too |
| 06:42.57 | scanlime | so with any luck, vmware will see a big USB performance boost :) |
| 06:50.30 | scanlime | heh, I should probably get some sleep call expansys in the morning.. bleh |
| 06:58.05 | purple_cow | scanlime: yeah |
| 06:58.14 | purple_cow | federico has been doing such awesome work |
| 07:01.42 | numist | ugh vmware bugginess in ubuntu |
| 07:05.05 | scanlime | numist: yeah, I think that's fixed already... but you might ask ChipX86 |
| 07:25.03 | *** part/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=jeffm@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 08:09.22 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r206 10prototype/src/ (MediaCenter.java MenuItem.java): turn MenuItem into a Component3D instead of an ImagePanel. This is because we'll want text along with the icon |
| 08:27.19 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r207 10prototype/src/Background.java: remove some extra imports |
| 08:27.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r208 10prototype/src/Menu.java: extend Container3D |
| 08:28.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r209 10prototype/src/StateController.java: make StateController an event listener |
| 08:41.49 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 08:41.50 | purple_cow | http://broken.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/img_2315.JPG |
| 11:28.32 | Veight | hmm anyone awake? |
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| 15:20.38 | kergoth | 1.8 wow patch went live |
| 15:26.10 | scanlime | yay.. my expansys order shipped |
| 15:26.12 | scanlime | and I didn't even have to call them |
| 15:26.24 | kergoth | woot |
| 15:26.29 | file | well that's a good thing |
| 15:26.30 | scanlime | I guess they can't handle punctuation in addresses :P |
| 15:41.51 | scanlime | hmm.. maybe I'll be at work early enough to fix this bug before anyone else gets in :) |
| 15:42.18 | scanlime | I'll be all like "Surprise, Chris, USB is 40bajillion times faster!" |
| 15:42.39 | scanlime | even if that fails, today is bagel and muffin day |
| 15:56.48 | numist | ah the joys of working at vmware |
| 15:56.54 | numist | ~seen ChipX86 |
| 15:57.00 | jbot | chipx86 is currently on #tacobeam. Has said a total of 111 messages. Is idling for 1d 1h 23m 3s |
| 15:57.12 | numist | I thought he was oddly quiet yesterday |
| 16:06.49 | *** join/#tacobeam JeffM2501 (n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501) |
| 16:19.56 | numist | and it races immediately... |
| 16:19.58 | numist | el yay |
| 16:30.13 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/ (inc/menus.h src/client.cpp): proper SDL headers |
| 16:31.49 | scanlime | numist: uh.. races? fire isn't multithreaded |
| 16:32.02 | scanlime | er, fyre |
| 16:32.16 | scanlime | besides, fyre 1.0.0 is Perfect (tm) |
| 16:35.28 | numist | I know it is |
| 16:35.35 | numist | it doesnt race.. that was a lie |
| 16:35.48 | numist | it sucks up every available resource, and since this machine runs windows -- There Can Be Only One |
| 16:36.14 | numist | computer slows to a crawl, becomes unresponsive to IO... Ill just leave it running at home on my desktop tonight |
| 16:36.25 | scanlime | how fast is this machine? |
| 16:36.44 | numist | and is the maximum image size set to 100,000 (or some multiplicate of 10) for a reason, or can that be circumvented? |
| 16:36.47 | scanlime | fyre is fairly good about keeping the UI responsive even when it's busy |
| 16:36.49 | numist | its a 1.8GHz P4-M |
| 16:36.59 | scanlime | that's faster than any of my machines :P |
| 16:37.03 | numist | hehe |
| 16:37.07 | scanlime | so there's something wrong if you can't run it |
| 16:37.13 | numist | fair enough |
| 16:37.23 | numist | I can run it, it just makes the machine unresponsive after a minute |
| 16:37.32 | scanlime | that's odd |
| 16:37.34 | numist | there are latent RAM problems on this machine though.. cant blame it on fyre quite yet |
| 16:37.58 | numist | (cant blame my problems with fyre on fyre yet... man, I need to make more sense) |
| 16:41.09 | numist | this machine is also very busy otherwise... but it still shouldnt be so busy that its lagging on IO |
| 17:07.40 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r210 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: Remove all the flushleft blocks around the lists. Removed the 3.3.1 header. |
| 17:18.08 | *** join/#tacobeam itodd (n=itodd@c-24-60-145-144.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 17:31.53 | CIA-5 | Ace: 03kergoth * r33 10FooAddon/FooConstants.lua: FooAddon: Remove the description from FooConstants, since ace can pull that from the .toc. |
| 17:37.34 | purple_cow | darth_mall: they wanted the "list of documents" somehow separate from the rest |
| 17:38.43 | scanlime | woo |
| 17:38.52 | scanlime | this cache seems to have a 0% hit rate :P |
| 17:39.15 | numist | thats a pretty useless cache |
| 17:39.33 | scanlime | uhhuh. this memory usage pattern isn't quite what I was expecting |
| 17:39.48 | scanlime | but on the bright side, I think I can implement an even simpler cache that will work really well |
| 17:39.56 | numist | :) |
| 17:40.44 | scanlime | actually.. might want to keep this cache around for a little while at least. Very low overhead, and it could help other types of applications |
| 17:41.55 | purple_cow | hmm, we need a room for tomorrow |
| 17:46.18 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r211 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: Put the Documentation Items header back, but as a subsection. |
| 17:46.21 | darth_mall | purple_cow: how's that? |
| 17:49.54 | purple_cow | not great :P |
| 17:55.01 | numist | hey, its ChipX86!!! |
| 17:55.05 | numist | all hail! |
| 17:55.12 | kergoth | hey chip |
| 17:55.15 | kergoth | ChipX86: wow 1.8 released today |
| 17:55.20 | ChipX86 | back from Boston :( Boston was fun |
| 17:55.26 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r212 10docs/initial-requirements/requirements.tex: that's better |
| 17:55.30 | kergoth | yay fun |
| 17:56.14 | ChipX86 | first time experiencing jetlag |
| 18:06.31 | ChipX86 | I missed the dunking :( |
| 18:08.12 | scanlime | yup |
| 18:08.13 | scanlime | it was fun |
| 18:08.16 | scanlime | triple-dunk |
| 18:29.15 | itodd | hey chip |
| 18:31.40 | ChipX86 | hey itodd |
| 18:31.55 | kergoth`food | hmm |
| 18:32.53 | kergoth`food | damnit damnit damnit |
| 18:33.30 | darth_mall | dammit? |
| 18:33.58 | kergoth`food | that too |
| 18:35.36 | darth_mall | actually, I wasn't correcting your spelling, I was inquiring what you were damning ;) |
| 18:35.49 | darth_mall | I just spell "dammit" differently |
| 18:35.55 | kergoth`food | oh, right. hehe |
| 18:36.09 | kergoth`food | i've got a dillemma at work, i thought i had this task nailed down, but i dont. |
| 18:36.14 | kergoth`food | i'm not sure how to go about making this work |
| 18:36.17 | darth_mall | >< |
| 18:36.21 | ChipX86 | :/ |
| 18:36.31 | ChipX86 | man, still catching up with all this e-mail |
| 18:38.57 | darth_mall | yum |
| 18:43.38 | kergoth`food | ljsdaglkjas dglskdg s |
| 18:44.16 | kergoth`food | i need to bond multiple ppp (pptp) tunnels, but, the wan links they're going over arent the same speed, so i need control over the algorithm mlppp uses to distribute the fragments to the ppp connections |
| 18:44.24 | kergoth`food | right now i'm pretty sure its hardcoded as roundrobin in the kernel :( |
| 19:00.24 | scanlime | HOO-HAH! |
| 19:00.37 | darth_mall | yay... more probability |
| 19:02.01 | kergoth`food | scanlime: grats? |
| 19:02.06 | scanlime | =D |
| 19:11.45 | CIA-5 | Ace: 03kergoth * r33 10FooAddon/FooConstants.lua: FooAddon: Remove the description from FooConstants, since ace can pull that from the .toc. |
| 19:12.00 | numist | didnt you do that already, kergoth? |
| 19:15.43 | scanlime | most patches work better when applied twice |
| 19:16.08 | numist | not any of the patches I have :( |
| 19:16.19 | numist | most disturbingly, they still will run twice :o |
| 19:42.41 | purple_cow | mwahaha |
| 19:42.48 | purple_cow | my first lg3d patch was just accepted |
| 19:43.03 | darth_mall | what did you patch? |
| 19:43.13 | purple_cow | changed the javadoc stuff in Light.java a bit :P |
| 19:43.20 | darth_mall | heh |
| 19:48.04 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r213 10prototype/ (data/menus/ data/menus/main-menu.xml src/MenuItem.java): make MenuItem a serializable, start working on a way to specify menus as xml |
| 19:48.10 | purple_cow | darth_mall: sent out the draft yet? |
| 19:54.53 | ChipX86 | so it was very cool seeing a big architectural diagram from the nokia people with Galago smack in the middle |
| 19:56.29 | purple_cow | :) |
| 19:56.51 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r214 10prototype/data/ (4 files in 2 dirs): wideo games |
| 19:57.14 | ChipX86 | sounds like I might be getting a 770 |
| 19:57.24 | ChipX86 | but they can't guarantee me anything |
| 19:57.39 | ChipX86 | however, they have people who are being paid to work with Galago, and will be sending me patches for my approval |
| 19:57.44 | ChipX86 | it's just amazing |
| 19:58.38 | numist | wow |
| 19:59.04 | ChipX86 | there were 7 nokia people there |
| 19:59.14 | ChipX86 | they said they came to the summit because I was there |
| 19:59.24 | ChipX86 | and that they most likely wouldn't have gone otherwise |
| 20:01.42 | ChipX86 | oohhh |
| 20:01.51 | ChipX86 | the 20.1" widescreen is back down to $394 |
| 20:01.53 | ChipX86 | might be time to buy |
| 20:02.34 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r215 10prototype/data/menus/ (main-menu.menu main-menu.xml): use .menu instead of .xml |
| 20:09.57 | itodd | instead of ussuing sql statement after sql statement, does anyone know how i could do a bunch of sql statements in a batch using activerecord? |
| 20:10.15 | itodd | hey now this isn't #rubyonrails |
| 20:10.21 | ChipX86 | :) |
| 20:10.23 | itodd | who changed my window!? |
| 20:10.31 | ChipX86 | me! |
| 20:10.36 | ChipX86 | because I missed you :( |
| 20:10.48 | itodd | hah |
| 20:10.54 | itodd | so nokia is into galago? |
| 20:10.59 | itodd | that's impressive chip |
| 20:11.00 | ChipX86 | yep |
| 20:11.12 | itodd | how does it fit into their idea? |
| 20:11.36 | purple_cow | sigh |
| 20:11.39 | ChipX86 | I can't tlak too much about it, but it has to do with a later revision of their 770, which is their wireless net/multimedia device |
| 20:11.56 | itodd | congratulations chip |
| 20:12.02 | itodd | that must feel pretty good |
| 20:12.05 | ChipX86 | very |
| 20:12.19 | purple_cow | if ( name.endsWith(".jar") ) { |
| 20:12.19 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.19 | purple_cow | } else { |
| 20:12.19 | purple_cow | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:12.19 | purple_cow | } |
| 20:12.24 | ChipX86 | hahah |
| 20:12.26 | ChipX86 | nice |
| 20:12.31 | itodd | hahahah |
| 20:16.39 | numist | sweet |
| 20:19.07 | purple_cow | i can't help but notice that a lot of this code looks like it was written by beginner programmers... |
| 20:19.38 | purple_cow | i'm curious how much of this was written by the real sun guys and how much is open-source contributors and interns |
| 20:20.21 | Veight | mmm gonna order pizza :P |
| 20:20.31 | numist | this hub is actually pretty smart |
| 20:20.50 | numist | instead of just lighting up a port's LED when something is being powered by it, it only lights up on real data transmission |
| 20:24.44 | ChipX86 | oh, also, J5 and Rodrigo and I sat down for a while and had a very good discussion on the notification stuff. We have a TODO list for 1.0 now |
| 20:25.06 | ChipX86 | and the Ubuntu guys are fully backing it for gnome 2.14 |
| 20:25.18 | ChipX86 | yay summit |
| 20:28.25 | kergoth`food | Veight: go grab the 1.8 wow patch |
| 20:28.31 | Veight | wtf? |
| 20:29.28 | kergoth`food | Veight: it released today. |
| 20:29.37 | Veight | ah |
| 20:29.45 | kergoth`food | lots of good changes. |
| 20:29.47 | Veight | whats with the food? |
| 20:29.47 | Veight | heh |
| 20:29.51 | kergoth`food | more rep from each bg, etc |
| 20:29.54 | kergoth`food | heh, was on lunch |
| 20:30.11 | file | I wonder how many calls I can push through this single thread |
| 20:32.11 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (3 files in 3 dirs): obj reader class |
| 20:32.23 | purple_cow | I wonder how much more you can talk about phones before I stab you |
| 20:33.00 | Veight | hah |
| 20:33.06 | Veight | while dling the patch my ping in vent jumped to 12k |
| 20:33.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:39.33 | Veight | odd |
| 20:39.59 | Veight | dominos just called on an attempt to verify my adress |
| 20:40.03 | Veight | never had that before |
| 20:43.48 | numist | Veight: the truck bomb comes next, they were just making sure you were home |
| 20:44.21 | Veight | oh hell |
| 20:44.23 | Veight | run! |
| 20:44.26 | numist | fleee |
| 20:44.40 | kergoth | man, this setup i need to do at work is complex |
| 20:44.43 | kergoth | hmmm |
| 20:53.44 | zak | purple_cow: updates on celebrating you-olderness? |
| 20:54.11 | numist | hi zak :) |
| 20:54.15 | zak | hiya numist |
| 20:54.41 | purple_cow | zak: nope |
| 20:56.55 | kergoth | anyone know udp well? |
| 20:57.46 | ChipX86 | Fixed bug where players would get stuck in the falling animation if they cast an instant-cast spell while jumping. |
| 20:57.49 | ChipX86 | I loved that bug |
| 20:57.52 | ChipX86 | noooooo |
| 20:57.57 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:57.57 | ChipX86 | made me all spooky-like |
| 21:01.43 | numist | thats an excellent bug |
| 21:03.20 | itodd | ok i'm off |
| 21:03.24 | itodd | later gaters |
| 21:06.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/3d/src/display.cpp: proper SDL headers |
| 21:46.43 | kergoth | Veight, ChipX86: players level 10-19 can do wsg now, yay |
| 21:46.47 | ChipX86 | yep :) |
| 21:47.40 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (3 files in 3 dirs): audio framework |
| 21:56.47 | darth_mall | oooh... haven't listened to Mink Car in ages |
| 21:57.05 | darth_mall | kergoth: wsg? |
| 21:57.22 | kergoth | warsong gulch. the battlegrounds. capture the flag |
| 21:58.50 | darth_mall | ah |
| 21:58.54 | darth_mall | neat |
| 21:59.24 | kergoth | yeah, its so fun |
| 21:59.25 | ChipX86 | it's fun |
| 22:25.32 | scanlime | hehe.. windows VMs don't like finding another copy of themselves on the same network |
| 22:25.43 | ChipX86 | heh |
| 22:25.46 | scanlime | "Windows - System Error. A duplicate name exists on the network." |
| 22:25.59 | ChipX86 | wish I could connect to work |
| 22:26.03 | ChipX86 | good thing my work today is all libview stuff |
| 22:26.15 | scanlime | is the VPN down? |
| 22:26.18 | ChipX86 | I think so |
| 22:26.39 | ChipX86 | Alex had trouble earlier, but it was working for me. We use different sshX servers though |
| 22:26.55 | scanlime | Secure Shell eXtreme! |
| 22:37.01 | purple_cow | http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/10/how_to_make_a_robot_statue_fro.html |
| 22:37.26 | ChipX86 | ohh, I got a free issue of Make Magazine :D |
| 22:37.51 | ChipX86 | cute :) |
| 22:38.55 | scanlime | so cute :) |
| 22:43.51 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r216 10prototype/data/menus/main-menu.menu: add a specific Menu subclass object to this, so we can know which of our menu types to use |
| 22:44.37 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r217 10prototype/src/ (MenuItem.java MenuLoader.java RingMenu.java): add a RingMenu class (empty right now) and a MenuLoader class, which will be responsible for turning .menu xml files into object soups |
| 22:56.05 | scanlime | woo |
| 23:06.00 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9057 10xchat-gnome/fe-gnome/ (fe-gnome.c userlist.c userlist.h): |
| 23:06.00 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: Renamed userlist_clear to userlist_clear_all and userlist_remove to |
| 23:06.00 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: userlist_remove_user so that it doesn't conflict with common/userlist.h. It |
| 23:06.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: can't find kill_session_callback or find_name, and I have no idea what those |
| 23:06.01 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: functions changed to. |
| 23:09.03 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9058 10teaching_boxes/docs/interviews/summary/ (Makefile interview_summaries.tex summary.tex): Fix the naming to be consistent with the interview notes I did yesterday. |
| 23:10.42 | hardwire | http://happy9.bogomip.com/albums/work/tdx/desk_march_2005/New%20Album/photoalbum_photo_view?b_start=29 |
| 23:10.45 | hardwire | my puppy the moose hunter |
| 23:10.51 | hardwire | http://happy9.bogomip.com/albums/work/tdx/desk_march_2005/New%20Album/photoalbum_photo_view?b_start=36 |
| 23:10.55 | hardwire | my puppy the flying moose hunter |
| 23:12.51 | darth_mall | hardwire: =D |
| 23:13.49 | hardwire | he is way too cute |
| 23:13.58 | hardwire | pictures don't do him justice |
| 23:14.15 | hardwire | he doesn't normally have wrinkles around.. cause he has his ears back |
| 23:14.20 | hardwire | but whenever we have food.. they come out |
| 23:14.22 | hardwire | its really sad |
| 23:14.31 | hardwire | wanna see my dog wrinkle up.. show him a sammich. |
| 23:14.34 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r218 10prototype/src/MediaCenter.java: clean this up a whole bunch |
| 23:16.12 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03evan * r219 10prototype/src/MediaCenter.java: Small comment, cuz David got rid of the unnecessary, commented out cruft. |
| 23:17.01 | kergoth | yay, home |
| 23:17.28 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 23:18.13 | ChipX86 | yay |
| 23:18.29 | ChipX86 | man I'm going to get smacked for this patch :) |
| 23:18.49 | kergoth | ChipX86: i hear 1.8 breaks shitloads of addons even though blizzard hardly listed anything for ui changes in the patch notes. |
| 23:18.56 | ChipX86 | ughhhhhh |
| 23:18.58 | ChipX86 | not again |
| 23:19.04 | kergoth | yay for undocumented changes |
| 23:19.07 | ChipX86 | so much for us playing tonight |
| 23:19.17 | CIA-5 | navi-misc: 03evan * r9059 10teaching_boxes/docs/interviews/summary/summary.tex: Just the background for our first participant. |
| 23:19.28 | darth_mall | back later |
| 23:19.51 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r220 10prototype/src/ (MenuLoader.java StateController.java): slight progress towards the menu loader |
| 23:20.02 | ChipX86 | how much is broken for you then in your set? |
| 23:20.41 | kergoth | dont know yet, downloading the patch as we speak |
| 23:20.59 | kergoth | it shouldnt take long to fix, i know lua really well now |
| 23:21.09 | kergoth | better than most of the folks who wrote those addons |
| 23:21.14 | kergoth | :P |
| 23:22.13 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (audio/inc/audio.h audio/src/audio.cpp client/src/client.cpp): play an intro tune |
| 23:23.24 | hardwire | scanlime: vmware.. bluetooth? |
| 23:23.30 | scanlime | uhhuh |
| 23:23.36 | scanlime | ? |
| 23:23.37 | ChipX86 | stupid windows |
| 23:23.50 | scanlime | hardwire: it's just another USB device... not like we have to do anything special to support bluetooth |
| 23:23.50 | hardwire | scanlime: what are you implementing? |
| 23:23.51 | ChipX86 | scanlime: have you seen my beautiful hacky IP entry I'm redoing? |
| 23:23.55 | *** join/#tacobeam SecretMethod70 (n=SecretMe@24-148-59-170.prs-bsr1.chi-prs.il.cable.rcn.com) |
| 23:24.00 | hardwire | scanlime: yeh.. makes sense.. nm :) |
| 23:24.07 | kergoth | hardwire: you know anything about GRE tunnels? |
| 23:24.08 | scanlime | ChipX86: you told me about it |
| 23:24.13 | hardwire | scanlime: not sure if you were going to make a vmware network emulator for bluetooth :) |
| 23:24.15 | hardwire | kergoth: a shitload |
| 23:24.23 | scanlime | heh |
| 23:24.25 | ChipX86 | ok, well I was trying to figure out how to handle position fudging |
| 23:24.33 | hardwire | kergoth: would you like a side order of ipsec? |
| 23:24.34 | ChipX86 | if you click on the blank area before a delimiter ('.'), I want it to go left |
| 23:24.36 | ChipX86 | on the right, go righ |
| 23:24.37 | ChipX86 | t |
| 23:24.46 | ChipX86 | but I was thinking, what about hte '.' itself? So I checked Windows |
| 23:24.53 | ChipX86 | Windows must do it semi-right, right? They've had it forever |
| 23:25.13 | ChipX86 | so I checked... clicking the '.' selects the very first field, no matter which '.' you click |
| 23:25.17 | kergoth | hardwire: i want multiple tunnels between the same two machines. say i have 3 tunnels between two machiens. do i need 6 independent ips for the tunnels themselves, or can you use the same ip for all the links at a given end? |
| 23:25.17 | scanlime | haha |
| 23:25.24 | ChipX86 | yay for testing |
| 23:25.38 | hardwire | kergoth: GRE uses keys |
| 23:25.40 | hardwire | or can. |
| 23:25.41 | hardwire | so no |
| 23:25.53 | hardwire | you set up tunnel0 with the same endpoints and key 00101 |
| 23:25.56 | hardwire | etc .. |
| 23:26.03 | scanlime | ChipX86: I'm sure I've told you about a few of the crazy USB bugs we've found in windows... and they've had USB forever :P |
| 23:26.11 | kergoth | hmm |
| 23:26.11 | kergoth | k |
| 23:26.17 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.17 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.17 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.18 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.18 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.18 | hardwire | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:26.29 | hardwire | that way it doesn't muck with them |
| 23:30.06 | ChipX86 | this widget is such a fun hack |
| 23:30.08 | ChipX86 | it's libsexy-like |
| 23:38.49 | scanlime | oog |
| 23:38.59 | scanlime | bluetooth is great at dumping a giant pile of new terminology on you |
| 23:38.59 | purple_cow | goo |
| 23:39.14 | scanlime | bluetooth's equivalents of UDP and TCP are called ACL and SCO :P |
| 23:39.31 | ChipX86 | yay SCO |
| 23:39.39 | scanlime | http://www.palowireless.com/infotooth/glossary.asp <-- giant |
| 23:41.23 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r221 10prototype/src/MediaCenter.java: whoops, that speaker's a little close |
| 23:42.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (audio/inc/audio.h audio/src/audio.cpp client/src/client.cpp): URL sound streaming |
| 23:46.03 | kergoth | "Ghost Wolf - Will now correctly have its cast time reduced by Nature's Swiftness." |
| 23:46.17 | kergoth | woot! if my natures swiftness isnt on cooldown, i can use it to cast an instant ghost wolf as an escape mechanism |
| 23:48.19 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r222 10prototype/src/MenuLoader.java: yay! lots of icky xml code! |
| 23:50.25 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/src/client.cpp: don't use a local bgm file till we get one we can legaly use, so here is a shoutcast stream :) |
| 23:51.49 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:51.51 | pagefault | I like the new patch |
| 23:51.53 | pagefault | but |
| 23:51.56 | pagefault | they nerfed a talent |
| 23:52.01 | pagefault | that I liked so very much |
| 23:52.04 | kergoth | :\ |
| 23:52.06 | pagefault | ruin |
| 23:52.15 | pagefault | oh well |
| 23:52.19 | pagefault | better death coil is better |
| 23:52.24 | pagefault | plus the new warlock quest |
| 23:52.24 | kergoth | the pvp and bg changes look really good |
| 23:52.27 | pagefault | it has an amazing trinket |
| 23:52.28 | kergoth | i'm happy in general |
| 23:52.33 | kergoth | i need to go get the new shaman quest |
| 23:52.40 | pagefault | lets me summon a voidwalker with no mana or shard |
| 23:52.44 | kergoth | pagefault: nice |
| 23:52.46 | pagefault | yeah |
| 23:52.48 | pagefault | that with a sac |
| 23:52.53 | pagefault | is like a free shield |
| 23:53.17 | pagefault | it had a nice staff though too |
| 23:53.27 | pagefault | but I think I will go for the trinket for pvp uses |
| 23:53.32 | kergoth | nod |
| 23:53.43 | pagefault | warlock is finally a useful class |
| 23:53.44 | pagefault | hehe |
| 23:54.02 | pagefault | and howl of terror is now instant cast |
| 23:54.05 | pagefault | so thats fun |
| 23:54.35 | pagefault | now have a viable escape plan |
| 23:54.50 | kergoth | i really need to do BRD. i keep getting into shitty pickup groups that fall apart half wya in |
| 23:54.59 | pagefault | well |
| 23:55.04 | pagefault | if they turned on the transfer |
| 23:55.05 | CIA-5 | smrt: 03jupiter * r223 10prototype/src/ (MenuLoader.java StateController.java): work towards getting it to load main-menu.menu |
| 23:55.06 | pagefault | like they said they would |
| 23:55.11 | pagefault | I could have done BRD with you tonight |
| 23:55.17 | kergoth | :\ |
| 23:55.31 | pagefault | the patch came fast |
| 23:55.41 | pagefault | I didn't think it would be out for a while |
| 23:55.48 | kergoth | yeah, that it did |
| 23:55.53 | ChipX86 | yeah |
| 23:55.55 | ChipX86 | they rushed it |
| 23:55.55 | pagefault | it had like one week of testing |
| 23:55.56 | pagefault | heh |
| 23:56.13 | pagefault | oh well |
| 23:56.14 | pagefault | I am happy |
| 23:56.27 | kergoth | the druid changes look nice |
| 23:56.29 | kergoth | i'm tempted to try one |
| 23:56.32 | kergoth | never played one before |
| 23:56.52 | pagefault | I will have to head down to sithilus |
| 23:56.54 | pagefault | or whatever |
| 23:57.00 | kergoth | yeah |
| 23:57.01 | kergoth | me too |
| 23:57.12 | pagefault | I was never there before |
| 23:57.15 | pagefault | so I have no idea what it was like before |
| 23:57.30 | kergoth | i used the slithilus flightpath to ge t to un'goro fast, but thats about it |
| 23:57.37 | pagefault | oh thats handy |
| 23:57.42 | pagefault | I hate having to run across tannaris |
| 23:57.55 | kergoth | yeah, its quicker, or was, since the old sithilus fp was way on its south end |
| 23:57.59 | kergoth | dunno about the new one |
| 23:58.09 | kergoth | whee, addons exploding |
| 23:58.15 | pagefault | ugh |
| 23:58.26 | kergoth | despite blizzard not showing shit for ui changes on the patch notes |
| 23:58.36 | pagefault | they must drive the internal UI guys crazy |
| 23:58.53 | kergoth | hmm, looks like quite a few didnt break |
| 23:58.57 | pagefault | unless it's the same people doing it |
| 23:59.00 | pagefault | as writing the API |
